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The Cult of Colt

If the Redskins drafted Usain Bolt at wide receiver, they'd have a Colt-to-Bolt tandem. Okay, that admittedly is unlikely. Fortunately, Jason Reid doesn't go there.

The team practices from 1:20 to 3:15 today; players are available at noon.

By Cindy Boren  |  August 19, 2008; 10:48 AM ET
 
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Colt?
Well, he is a project, but I'm not going any further at this point.
I keep reminding myself of how badly he looked vs. GA in the Sugar Bowl.

I am hopeful though....

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | August 19, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

woot

Posted by: Legion | August 19, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

First and foremost i would like to say....

Posted by: Zebra | August 19, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

FO plan for the year.

Trade JC for a 6th rounder.

Put both rookie WR's on the Practice Squad.

Install Colt Brennan as starter.

Posted by: Vindan Snyderrato | August 19, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Oh, apparently I have an achievement that needs to be recognized.....


First!

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | August 19, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Alex, we also have the option to keep James, let him recover, and keep Rob Jackson and then we're somewhat set for the DE position for years.

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 19, 2008 10:48 AM

Truth, I think this is probably our best option in the long term. I am not as sold on the potential of Jackson.. not yet.. I hope to see him get some real game time this season before I would look to him as a future starter or regular rotation guy.

I just think it's crazy that people want to dump James for the 7th round pick back. Its a freaking 7th round pick.

You are taking a gamble whoever you take with it.

Do you want to gamble on a TBD guy who is a seventh rounder or on a former 1st rounder who played for the Joke team in purple and did not work out there. But Minnesota is where good players go to get screwed.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 19, 2008 11:02 AM | Report abuse

FO plan for the year.

Trade JC for a 6th rounder.

Put both rookie WR's on the Practice Squad.

Install Colt Brennan as starter.

Posted by: Vindan Snyderrato | August 19, 2008 10:56 AM


Thanks god you're not running the team!!!

Posted by: jesus | August 19, 2008 11:02 AM | Report abuse

From last night and then it has started again in the last few moments on previous post.

Who were those terrible busts in recent Redskin years? lets say this decade?

We have had nominations already for
Arch
Terrell
Brandon Lloyd [doubt we can beat that one]

Me?
How about David Patten
He displayed promise in NE we spent $ and he was never healthy or productive.

Now in NO and they are seeing his ability that we never did.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | August 19, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Something for your Wednesday morning. I've gotta head to the office now.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNO6On7cK1M

Posted by: freakzilla | August 19, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Colt was incredibly shook against my Dawgs last year. Dude was scared of getting hit anymore, and if memory serves correctly (which is unlikely) I seem to remember him literally crying after the beating he got.

I'm not really blaming him 100%, his O linemen were statues against our quick D (note : we should've drafted Marcus Howard, watch him turn into a monster), but his whole game was rattled after getting hit multiple times. After the game he said something along the lines of how incredibly fast UGA was and that he wasn't prepared for that speed.

Now I know UGA = NFL U, but seriously, what is he gonna do in the NFL.

anyway, just reminiscing on that great Sugar Bowl win!

11 days and counting...

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 19, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Slow response time from the server on this new story, Ray and my self got broke up!

Posted by: Zebra | August 19, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

There is a reason Colt looked bad against Ga....other than him and 3 of his WR they arent high level Div 1 players. The size and speed of Ga's line just whipped Hawaii's line. When you have no time to throw at any level you are going to look bad.

The one thing you cant teach QB's that he has, is he just acts and plays like a winner. He honestly critiques himself but never doubts his abilities. If you could give Jason Campbell Colt's mental package youd have an absolute stud of a qb. Instead in Campbell in my opinion he is a below average starting qb in the NFL that the Skins should cut ties with after his contract is up.

Posted by: Pat | August 19, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

For anyone who wants to cut Albright, I have two words you for you:

DAN TURK

Posted by: RambleOn | August 19, 2008 10:01 AM

May he rest in peace.

Just a couple comments on the corner position: first of all, Carlos Rogers is a big, physical corner who tackles well and can cover in zones. Therefore, he's better suited to play in the Cover 2. Period. Put him in Tampa or Indy or Chicago or Detroit and he's a Pro Bowler. Put him here where he's expected to play man coverage, he's mediocre. The sooner the Skins deal him (I'd send him to Detroit; Millen is dumb enough to give us a 1st or 2nd rounder I'd bet), the better off it is for everyone. But given the lack of depth the Skins have at that spot (and the fact he's coming off a bad knee injury), I'm fully aware it's unlikely.

Secondly, you can't stash Tryon on the practice squad. He'd be picked up immediately and you just wasted a 3rd rounder. It's a known fact that it takes longer to develop CBs, QBs, and WRs. Tryon could be a star in 2 or 3 years. Or he could suck. We won't know until 2010 at the earliest. Not everyone is Champ Bailey, so let's be patient with the kid.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 19, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Say wha???

Posted by: Arch Deluxe | August 19, 2008 10:50 AM

No f'ing way, man!

Posted by: Mike Rumph | August 19, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

You think I'm a bust???

I had a ONE HANDED CATCH IN SAN FRANCISCO MY FRIEND

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MucCb7bbKDY


I watch that highlight about ONE HUNDRED TIMES A DAY

Do NOT CALL ME A BUST FRIEND

I'm B-Lloyd, the real deal! Coming soon 09 baby! I'M BACK!!

Posted by: Brandon Lloyd | August 19, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Hey man, us DawGs is Domeinent at NFL.

pas it to da leff...

Posted by: Jonathan Sullivan | August 19, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

I took a job in town so you guys could be reminded of my stink, and I haven't even been mentioned yet. You're more pitiful than my TD/INT ratio!

Posted by: Heath Shuler | August 19, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

That would be 15-to-33, btw.

Posted by: Cindy | August 19, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

hello Brownwood...
I've liked many of your posts, but Carlos Rogers is not going to get any team even a 2nd round choice.

Teams film everything.
What have they seen in Double Move?
Gotten burned often
When he hasn't he has dropped catchable balls.
And now he has suffered a serious injury.
If they were to put him out there, they might not get anything... teams may choose to let him become a free agent cut.

But that is all hypothetical.
Skins are committed to him at least another year.

Again, I've enjoyed many of your thoughts...

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | August 19, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

This is the year, I'm telling you, this is the year, I make a tackle....

Posted by: David Pollack | August 19, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Pat, you are right on on Colt. He gets all of the blame for the GA game, but the whole Hawalli team was beat bad and Colt never had a chance.

Also, I hate to hear that he is playing against players that will be bagging groceries later this year. Not his fault when he is playing. But both he and Mason or making plays and playing way above those 3rd stringers and sometimes second stringers.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 19, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

brownwood,

Agree Rogers would be better off in a different system, but pro bowler, c'mon, man. He has underachieved from the start. And no one is going to give a 1st or 2nd for a guy coming off major knee sx.
Let's play him on special teams and see whaty he can do. My lasting image of him is dropping that int vs Seattle 2 yrs ago that would have been a td. he has worse hands than a friggin lineman!

Posted by: cosmofla | August 19, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Hey Heath,
I suggested we discuss busts from this decade.

But yes, if it will make you feel better for all of Redskins history, you, Heath Shuler were maybe the worst bust of all time.
You were a major disappointment.
You did nothing, and were so horrible, only one other team even gave you a shot,and that didn't last long!

You win my nomination for most over-rated draft prospect for Skins ever!
Worst QB to be drafted in Rd 1 Ever!

Satisfied?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | August 19, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

WTG, Ray.

I'll keep bangin' that drum, tho. Sure, Colt's a rook - but he's the first QB here in years that's given me any spark.

Soup is beginning to remind me of Jay Schroeder! (s to the SJKing p?)

Posted by: Dik | August 19, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Can't spell bust without a little Quinten in there....Johnathan pass it over here..

Posted by: Quinten Moses | August 19, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Us dawg stick together....none of us try and excel at anyting makes other look bad..

Posted by: Marcus Stroud | August 19, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

*** Colt played injured in the GA game *** and at the senior bowl or whatever that's called.

Posted by: Dik | August 19, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Love that we are arguing over who will be on the team ah la: I don't want this guy getting plucked by another team.

Vs how it used to be where we seemed to be looking at 80 guys saying how can we fill out the roster.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 19, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Thanks, RedskinRay.

I agree that we're stuck with Rogers another year, if for no other reason the fact that he's got to prove he can play and that the knee is OK. I hear what you're saying on Double Move, but I think many of his miscues stem from him playing man coverage. Regardless of what we'd be able to get for him in a trade (and I still think we could get at least a mid to late round pick for him if someone got desperate at Cover 2 corner), I think he'd be a stud in Tampa or Detroit. Just a hunch...

In addition, picks aren't a premium for corners in that system, stuff seems to get sucked into the safeties. Think about it: outside of Ronde Barber, there just aren't that many notable Cover 2 corners, but Cover 2 safeties are in the Pro-Bowl all the time (i.e.-John Lynch, Bob Sanders, etc).

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 19, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Yo, us dawgs is like da U, just we're not that good, not good at all in fact, and we usually end up sucking....

This however is the year I'm going to prove to be worth the first and third round picks the pats spent on me...if I only knowd how to catch...

Posted by: Ben Watson | August 19, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Regarding Colt
Yes, I mentioned the GA game
Secondly I said I am cautious [not against Colt]
Thirdly, I also said I am hopeful

Absolutely we should keep and try to develop Colt.
I am siding w/ Coach Zorn on this one.
Press got excited about Colt's performance vs. Colts and what did Coach Z reply?

paraphrase:
happy for Colt, but we hope he won't play a down all year.
This week he said Colt has a long way to go.

HTTR

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | August 19, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for that heartwarming video, freakzilla.

Here's to the Cowboys shedding lots of tears this season and losing as a team more often than not.

"The schadenfreude is strong with this one."

You can't outschadenfreude freakzilla.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 19, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Colt is already 25. By the time he moves from a "project" to starter he'll be close to 30 and getting old in football years.

Posted by: David | August 19, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

"This is the year, I'm telling you, this is the year, I make a tackle....

Posted by: David Pollack | August 19, 2008 11:16 AM "


That's just cold. Pollack was a great player and a great person who had his career cut short due to a painful injury. He could've been paralyzed for life. And he was still contemplating coming back until the doctor's told him he could very well end up paralyzed if he did. Hopefully he becomes a D linemen coach at UGA one day. Dude was one of the hardest workers I have ever seen play the game and a guy that you could tell truly loved it. No need to cheap shot the guy, he would've been a decent NFL player, too. He was undersized, slow, and not a great athlete but managed to overcome because of his engine. I'd take that in 53 players to start the season please.

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 19, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

You guys are being pretty hard on Carlos Rogers. He's been injured and is working his way back (ahead of schedule) from a torn ACL/MCL. He played man coverage at Auburn and was forced to play zone last year due to the poor pass rush. In addition, this is only his third year...

So, I assume he'll continue to improve and be pretty effective as a #3 CB. However, it's a given that he needs to work on catching the ball ;->

Posted by: Siris | August 19, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

WTG?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | August 19, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

brownwood,

Agree Rogers would be better off in a different system, but pro bowler, c'mon, man. He has underachieved from the start. And no one is going to give a 1st or 2nd for a guy coming off major knee sx.
Let's play him on special teams and see whaty he can do. My lasting image of him is dropping that int vs Seattle 2 yrs ago that would have been a td. he has worse hands than a friggin lineman!

Posted by: cosmofla | August 19, 2008 11:18 AM

First off, the "1st or 2nd rounder for Rogers" thing was dig at Millen, not an actual assumption of what we'd get in a trade. There's not enough weed in the world to actually make me believe we could get something that high for a corner with salad tongs for hands.

I'm just not convinced the guy can't play at all. I need to see him play on a good, Cover 2 defense before I judge him completely. But based on nothing more than my own gut feeling, I think Rogers could be a top-flight corner in a Cover 2.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 19, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

I don't get all the hating on Carlos Rogers... he was playing inarguably solid ball last season before he got hurt. As I said a few days ago, I don't think he'll ever be a #1 corner in this league, but I'm happy with him being our second/third corner.

Springs, Smoot, Rogers. That's a fine and dandy set of corners. Knocking wood about their health, but I feel like we're in good shape at CB...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 19, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

hey Truth,
I am with you.
Pollack was a great college player and I am not into cheap shots when guys suffer serious setbacks in their life.
Each one of us in only one event away from such a fate ourselves.

I have been talking about Busts who like Heath were horrible or disappointing here but manage to do well elsewhere.

Thanks for taking a stand against piling on a guy that suffered paralysis.

No, I am not a Dawg either.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | August 19, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Hey Heath,
I suggested we discuss busts from this decade.

But yes, if it will make you feel better for all of Redskins history, you, Heath Shuler were maybe the worst bust of all time.
You were a major disappointment.
You did nothing, and were so horrible, only one other team even gave you a shot,and that didn't last long!

You win my nomination for most over-rated draft prospect for Skins ever!
Worst QB to be drafted in Rd 1 Ever!

Satisfied?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | August 19, 2008 11:19 AM

Ahhh. Somehow this just feels right...

Posted by: Heath Shuler | August 19, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

-- Keep hating on Ben Watson :


His two biggest plays of the 2005 season came in the playoffs. In one, during the Patriots' first game against the Jacksonville Jaguars, on a third-down play that nearly forced the Patriots to punt, Watson broke free of one tackle to earn the first down; in all, Watson broke three tackles and outran five defenders, taking the ball 63 yards to score the touchdown.

Even more notable, though, was his pursuit and tackle of Champ Bailey during the Patriots' 2005 AFC Divisional Playoff game against Denver. Bailey intercepted a Tom Brady pass in Denver's endzone, and proceeded to run it down the full length of the (near) side-line, towards New England's endzone. At the time of the interception, Watson was on the opposite side of the field from Bailey (on the far side-line), and so he had to take a diagonal pursuit the full (diagonal) length of the field in order to have a chance of catching him. Watson caught up with Bailey at New England's 2-yard line and tackled him hard, causing Bailey to fumble the ball. The ruling was the ball was fumbled out of bounds at the 1-yard line, and so the Broncos retained possession, and subsequently scored on the next play. (However, it appeared the ball had gone through the endzone, which would then have resulted in a New England touchback instead, in a potentially game-changing play.)

UGA = Tight End U whether you like it or not

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 19, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

29 total tackles in 2 years for the 17th overall pick in the first round....don't make excuses, UGA is not the football factory you think it is. I was a good player in college, but I stunk in the pro's.

We're right up there with Temple, or Rice.

Posted by: David Pollack | August 19, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Klinny | August 19, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Last comment on Double Move. He's not worthy of being selected 9th in the 1st round. It's all about productivity. Dude has not performed. Period.

Posted by: cosmofla | August 19, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

I don't get all the hating on Carlos Rogers... he was playing inarguably solid ball last season before he got hurt. As I said a few days ago, I don't think he'll ever be a #1 corner in this league, but I'm happy with him being our second/third corner.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 19, 2008 11:32 AM

That's where the hate comes from, Nate. The 9th overall pick shouldn't be your 2nd/3rd corner. Every time I see Shawne Merriman I think about what could have been...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 19, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Hey Heath,
I suggested we discuss busts from this decade.

But yes, if it will make you feel better for all of Redskins history, you, Heath Shuler were maybe the worst bust of all time.
You were a major disappointment.
You did nothing, and were so horrible, only one other team even gave you a shot,and that didn't last long!

You win my nomination for most over-rated draft prospect for Skins ever!
Worst QB to be drafted in Rd 1 Ever!

Satisfied?

Posted by: RedskinRay1

Desmond Howard was pretty bad too.

Posted by: MyrtleBeachMike | August 19, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

So funny reading all the post about Colt. The kid been playing against people that will not be on any team in about two weeks. I like the kid but some of you really need to take a step back.

Posted by: jm220 | August 19, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Dude, are you kidding me?? The pats spent a first and a third round pick on me, and you're talking about a tackle that I made 2 years ago. LOL.

I wasn't drafted to make tackles. I was drafted to catch the ball, something I'm still trying to get a handle on....

Posted by: Ben Watson | August 19, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Worst QB to be drafted in Rd 1 Ever!
Posted by: RedskinRay1 | August 19, 2008 11:19 AM

Whew! That's a load off my shoulders.

Posted by: Ryan Leaf | August 19, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

** post with beer **

chRIs LarRY gave me some crap about being a beer snob, so instead of grabbing a sixer of local (and perfectly acceptable) Brooklyn Brewery beer on the way to his house, I grabbed a sixer of a craft beer I'd never seen before: Smuttynose Brewing's Portsmouth Lager.

Yeah, it's named for the other Portsmouth (not the one in VA), but it was a nice mild lager, just the way I like 'em. So I drank a bunch of them. Where beer snobbery meets beer gluttony: my stomach.

P.S. chRIs LArry is the grillmeister. The aforementioned brisket -- hell, the whole dinner -- was amazing. And I got to meet the wonderful Mrs. LaRRy, which was awesome. So there.

** end post with beer **

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 19, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Mebbe the 'skins would be better off if they hired a HIGH ROUND specialist to draft for them. Bad as Ceratto has been in the high numbers, he's nailed some decent talent on the Down Low.

Monty, Golston, Jackson, Horton, Richardson, Moore, Brooks, Brennan, to name a few.

But except for Rinehart, a backup guard, NO ONE has impressed from the high rounds this year.

Posted by: Corkczar | August 19, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Its official Chris "Mad Dog" Russo to Sirius XM for afternoon drive and program the other shows.....

F Francessa...

Posted by: chrIS lArry | August 19, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

I don't think that UGA is as bad as my Owls, or those other Owls for that matter. Though I do think, thanks mainly too the junk-pile called the MAC that my Temple Owls have a shot at a wining record for a change.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 19, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Nate said:
"I don't get all the hating on Carlos Rogers... he was playing inarguably solid ball last season before he got hurt. As I said a few days ago, I don't think he'll ever be a #1 corner in this league, but I'm happy with him being our second/third corner."


Nate, just my opinion, when you use a top 10 pick to draft a corner back you generally are not hoping for a guy who can't be your #1 corner. He is best described as serviceable, certainly not a superstar that a #9 overall pick would suggest.

Posted by: isnadd | August 19, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

So funny reading all the post about Colt. The kid been playing against people that will not be on any team in about two weeks. I like the kid but some of you really need to take a step back.

Posted by: jm220 | August 19, 2008 11:39 AM

Subtract the name "Colt" and insert the name "Marcus Mason". NOW you're cookin' with oil...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 19, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Redskins Training Camp: August 18th
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

John Keim
WarpathInsiders.com Aug 18, 2008

Malcolm Kelly could play this weekend? Who will start opposite Griffin? Why not Alexander? Frost a better holder than Brooks? All this and more, righ there...

...Joe Bugel was back today after missing a week to be with his daughter Holly, who has a rare form of bone cancer. Saw Buges yesterday and he looked every bit like a dad enduring a horrible time. Such a good guy.

...A good sign for the Redskins: Malcolm Kelly ran routes on a separate practice field while his teammates worked nearby. That’s a good step in Kelly’s return from arthroscopic knee surgery. There’s some hope he could play Saturday, but not sure how likely that is right now.

...And good news for Rocky McIntosh and Carlos Rogers. Both of them played Saturday and reported no problems with their knees the next day; both practiced today.

...Not many people were surprised by what happened with Joe Gibbs racing, even some longtime Redskins sources. Let’s be honest: Gibbs fudged the rules when he coached here during both eras. And the league office disliked him, or at least how much he would call and complain about certain calls from the previous day’s game.

...Here’s what I want to know, and will find out: Why isn’t Lorenzo Alexander talked about more for a starting job opposite Cornelius Griffin? OK, I know some of the reasons, but Alexander is very active, much more so than Kedric Golston, who is not a playmaker but more of a run-stopper. But Golston was not overly impressive Saturday. Anthony Montgomery is not 100 percent yet and still plays too high. He does often take up two blockers.

...Redskins players are chuckling about the attention given Colt Brennan. One player asked a reporter, "Are they pushing him on you guys?" Yes, sort of. TV types love him; he’s the flavor of the day.

...OK, this might be a bit nerdy and I have to ask Danny Smith about this, but here’s what I noticed when watching Derrick Frost and Durant Brooks hold for practice field goals today: Every few kicks Brooks did not have the laces turned the proper way; they were slanted to the right. If Frost has a chance of winning the job, little things like that could be a reason.

...Stephon Heyer was back in practice today, though in a limited role. Heyer needs to show something; don’t know that he’s in trouble or anything but he has not cemented his role as a top backup that’s for sure.

...Todd Wade should want to hustle back, too. Let’s just say some coaches aren’t impressed with his blocking. If he was a young guy, he’d be gone.


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Story URL: http://was.scout.com/2/780765.html

Posted by: Keim to da Post | August 19, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

seriously bolt could run a 3.2 40 with pads! he did it again last night...in 200m he started coasting 50 meters to go while everyone else was dying trying to come 2nd/3rd...love the dude. and all those americans hating on him should rember how they treated michael johnson...and their excuses for him

Posted by: dealer | August 19, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Someone to cheer against:

Cowboys Cheerleader Starr Spangler on 'Amazing Race'

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 19, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

how for 200m runner it is sooooooo soooo hard to run 100m. well this guy's making it look easy and all you can do is ibtch and complain about his "sportsmanship"? puhlease! get over yourself!

Posted by: dealer | August 19, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Trade JC and let Colt Brennan take the reins.

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | August 19, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, yeah, I get that Carlos hasn't lived up to his draft position, but his draft position (and the people drafted after him) are on the front office, not on Carlos! And besides, I never claimed he was productive enough to have justified his draft position.

He's recovered and ready to resume work as a starting corner (the third corner is effectively a starter in today's league). So we'll see how he produces in this Blachified defense. I think he'll be a solid contributor.

Sure, I want him to hang on to the damn ball when it hits his hands. But I worry less about him than I do, say, Reed Doughty...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 19, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Just Kidding obviously

Posted by: Cheyenne, WY | August 19, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

+++UGA = Tight End U whether you like it or not

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 19, 2008 11:34 AM+++

That's what SHE said.

Posted by: Corkczar | August 19, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

phew, Cheyenne, phew...

Posted by: chrIS lArry | August 19, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

cL, i hear both of them are getting $3M per year. chris from sirius and francessa from his current radio station.

Posted by: dealer | August 19, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Usain Bolt = Ben Johnson.
impossible to come out of nowhere and run that fast. hasn't even been running the 100m for 1 year yet. CHEATER

Posted by: Anonymous | August 19, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Mebbe the 'skins would be better off if they hired a HIGH ROUND specialist to draft for them. Bad as Ceratto has been in the high numbers, he's nailed some decent talent on the Down Low.

Monty, Golston, Jackson, Horton, Richardson, Moore, Brooks, Brennan, to name a few.

But except for Rinehart, a backup guard, NO ONE has impressed from the high rounds this year.

Posted by: Corkczar | August 19, 2008 11:43 AM

What? That's the only place they have a decent record! I submit to you the Top 10 picks in recent years:

2000: LaVar Arrington, Chris Samuels
2004: Sean Taylor
2005: Carlos Rogers
2007: Laron Landry

Jury's still out on Landry, but he arguably had a better rookie season than Taylor did. So other than him, the only guy who hasn't made a Pro-Bowl on that list is Rogers.

4 out of 5 ain't bad, no?

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 19, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

yeah WFAN offered Mad Dog less than Mike to stay....so he said F U and joined the Revolution!

Posted by: chrIS lArry | August 19, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

give me bolt and no one else (no qb, no ol, no rb, no other wr/te)...and i'll be the qb. we'll score td's everytime we get the ball...and ohh no pads either...

Posted by: dealer | August 19, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

just like marion jones only time will tell if he's clean or not. he looks clean. unlike ben johnson who looked doped.

Posted by: dealer | August 19, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

So we should trade a good #2/#3 position player because we thought he would be a balling #1 position player but he isn't....that's what I got from this.


And do I REALLY have to start naming UGA ballers in the NFL?

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 19, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Dang, I just had to look up a list of heisman names to remember Desmond(no separation) Howard. Next to Shuler, I agree, worst pick in recent memory.

Posted by: cosmofla | August 19, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

time will tell for sure. justin gatlin also a doper when he didn't look it. hope bolt is clean, hard not to be suspisious these days

Posted by: Anonymous | August 19, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

I'll start by naming Charley Trippi and Frank Tarkenton and intentionally omitting Quincy Carter and Odell Thurman.

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 19, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, yeah, I get that Carlos hasn't lived up to his draft position, but his draft position (and the people drafted after him) are on the front office, not on Carlos! And besides, I never claimed he was productive enough to have justified his draft position.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | August 19, 2008 11:48 AM

Why couldn't you be a Packers fan?

Posted by: Aaron Rodgers | August 19, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Hey...what's up everyone?

My brother plays at Oregon...

Posted by: Ryan Leaf | August 19, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

I love fLodira this tym of yeer....

Posted by: Quincy Carter | August 19, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

It's impossible not to be suspicious, almost to the point of figuring everyone is doing something unless proved otherwise. Stuff has gotten so much more untraceable since Ben Johnson. Remember how yellow his eyes were?

Posted by: Cindy | August 19, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

And why the idea that Ben Watson can't speak correctly? Please give me an idea of where you got that idea because for your sake I'm hoping it isn't what I think it is...


that's to the person that posted as Ben Watson earlier...


At least we didn't have OJ right?

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 19, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

I speak just like I play te....not that well...

Posted by: Ben Watson | August 19, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Anyone going to the buffet this afternoon??

Posted by: Johnathan Sullivan | August 19, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

As near as I can tell, all the Carlos Rogers hate is because he was the #9 pick in the draft and, as a #2 or #3 corner, he didn't live up to this. That's all you guys got?

He didn't pick himself #9. The Redskins did. The Redskins pick guys too high a lot of the time -- Schuler, Westbrook -- and they get them too low some of the time -- Cooley, Durant Brooks, Joe Jacoby, Russ Grimm. (Campbell is one or the other and we still don't know which yet.) Half the guys in the draft go too high, and half go too low, and you can never tell beforehand which are which.

The draft isn't like free agency. In FA, you've got a professional record to go on. In the draft, you've got a guy's college career, plus a lot of hopes. I can see faulting a guy -- like Kelly or Thomas -- who don't give you what you pay them for in effort and conditioning, but Carlos has done all he can for the 'Skins with what he's got. He just wasn't as good as the 'Skins projected he would be.

And, one thing I'll say for Rogers that I can't say for any of us: At least he's working when he's at work, not blogging.

Posted by: Motivator | August 19, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe I am about to agree with Dealer. He is 100% right on Bolt. People really need to stop hating on him. I wanted to slap the hell out Bob Costa last night with my hammer.

Posted by: jm220 | August 19, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

cult of nads

Posted by: nads guy | August 19, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Just to set the record straight. Bolt did not come out of nowhere. He was the youngest gold medalist (15 years old) at the Junior World Championship for 200 meters. We are very football centric. We need to broaden our horizons.

Posted by: Prodigal Son | August 19, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

bolt only been running the 100m for less than 1 year

Posted by: Anonymous | August 19, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Hines Ward

Posted by: CBT | August 19, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

....So, unless you think he was doping at 15, you should check yourself.

Posted by: Prodigal Son | August 19, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

it's a known fact that if black men show arrogance and make no apologies about it, they would get slammed by white america.

the most arrogant of this generation that I know is that tool of kock, Cheney.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 19, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Well said, Motivator.

Much of Rogers' problem isn't of his own making, I'll grant you that. I just have issue with a guy who plays corner in this league and can't make a pick. I know they say WRs that can't catch play corner, but there are plenty of guys that could do both if they wanted to. I expect a guy who gets taken in the top 10 to work his butt of to correct the most glaring weakness in his game--his inability to secure the football when a QB is gracious enough to put it right between the twos on his jersey. Right now if one play defines his career to this point, it's that dropped pick in Seattle in the '05 playoffs. I'll be the first to make him my wallpaper if he can reverse that image in the collective minds of Redskin Nation. But until then, that's who he is.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 19, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Motivator, lets hope he's working on his hands!

Posted by: cosmofla | August 19, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Usain Bolt?

I ran some track, so perhaps I can help clear up some obvious confusion of the facts.

Bolt is not a new runner.
He set a world record in juniors [200m]
He was offered track scholarships by US colleges 4 years ago, but turned them down to stay in Jamaica and train. So, he has not been on the radar screen of avg. Olympic fans.
But Track and Field observers?
This guy has been awesome!

They guy was 6'5" by about 16 years old, and so was placed appropriately in the 400m events about 6 years ago and had success.

Noticing his quick 200 times they said, lets focus there...

The guy was so explosive they thought surely a 6'5" guy can't get out of the blocks quick enough to recover and win in the 100m can he?

But they found he could!

The rest is history....

Oh, he actually did qualify for the Athens 2004 games, but was injured.
So, yes, you may be right, he could be dirty.

However, not for the reasons being stated at all. Bolt has worked long and hard; he is no flash in the pan or sudden star.

Fair enough?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | August 19, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Is it that hard to run the 100m if you already run the 200m? I did not run track but it seems to be an easy transition.

Bolt has not "come out of nowhere." I do not want to jump conculsions about PEDs.

Posted by: CBT | August 19, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Back to the 53 man roster thing for a moment. Any reason to keep Yoder? I like the guy, but the Skins are invested into Davis and keeping 3 TE's seems a bit much.

Trade Yoder for a 6th pick, cut E James if you can get the 7th pick back.

As of now, the Skins have too many guys that are hurting and need to get rid of some of the injury risk guys (ie Mix, James)


Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 19, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

fair ray, and not calling him flash in pan or sudden star, if it came out that way, my bad. just saying, and ran track too, he only started running 100m this year. he shut it down final 15m, would have been 9.55 if not. just too suspisious to my eyes to shatter 100m dash record. last to shatter it was ben johnson, by about .14 seconds. it just don't happen that way.
but yes, i hope he is clean

Posted by: Anonymous | August 19, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

BROWNWOOD responds to my suggestion the 'skins learn how to draft in the high rounds by noting recent drafts. My response....

+++2000: LaVar Arrington, Chris Samuels++++BROWNWOOD

NUMBER TWO OVERALL pick, Arrington was a bust for someone taken that high. The SKINS, picked 2nd and 3rd and were one for two.-_CORKCZAR

2004: Sean Taylor--BROWNWOOD

RIP: A blind Monk could have made THAT call.---CORK

2005: Carlos Rogers---BROWNWOOD

9TH OVERALL PICK is only the third best CB ON HIS OWN TEAM! You call that a success?--CORK

+++2007: Laron Landry-

Jury's still out on Landry, but he arguably had a better rookie season than Taylor did. So other than him, the only guy who hasn't made a Pro-Bowl on that list is Rogers.+++BROWNWOOD


The ONLY JURY out on Landry is a medical Jury. He is a MONSTER free safety...unless his Hammy is chronic.

++4 out of 5 ain't bad, no?

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 19, 2008 11:51 AM+++


TWO out of FIVE is more like it, due to Taylor's tragic death.

Should we get into Westbrook, Ramsey, Gardner, Jacobs???

What bout iffy Jason campbell? Or the two second rounders this year who squandered a training camp by showing up out of shape, and the other second rounder who's caught one less TD pass than an undrafted FA at the same position? No? Didn't think so.

And NO, I'm not giving up on this year's draft class. But the high picks sure go off to a lousy start. The lower round picks have ben more impressive--IMO

When you have FIVE PICKS in the top Ten, you should have at least three SUPERSTARS out of that bunch.


Posted by: Corkczar | August 19, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

soory for my words "came out of nowhere", i meant it in the 100m. i know about him in last few years of 200m

Posted by: Anonymous | August 19, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

RedskinRay1 what do you run? I ran the 2 and the 4

Posted by: jm220 | August 19, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

There is no time to make up for a bad start in a 100 m race.
He was outstanding in the 200m
Bolt felt he could do it, pestered his coach, his coach then felt his start and technique were improving so they tried it.

He has continued to improve his start, and they already knew he had the speed at 50 m to be the best...

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | August 19, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

The words white america or black america are very divisive and have no place in our country...

Posted by: Zebra | August 19, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

I see the UGA guys are at it again, sans the grammar and spelling of course.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 19, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

+++Back to the 53 man roster thing for a moment. Any reason to keep Yoder? I like the guy, but the Skins are invested into Davis and keeping 3 TE's seems a bit much.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 19, 2008 12:26 PM+++

I got a reason: Jason Tuck. Jansen won't be able to block him one on one, so they'll need a good blocking TE like Yoder to help out. Why get arguably the skins best receiver--COOLEY beat up doing what he's not best at? Davis can't block (yet), but that's okay, he hasn't shown any other skill sets yet, either, besides oversleeping. Sellers can block but he's pretty much a full time fullback these days.

Yoder maks the squad, easy.

Posted by: Corkczar | August 19, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Wow Cork, just wow...

First, how was Lavar a bust? The man made 3 Pro-Bowls in 6 years here. From '01 to '03 he was our best player. If it weren't for his shredded-wheat knee and the HUGE ego of Gregggggg Williams, we'd be discussing whether he's the best 'backer we've ever had.

I argued that Carlos is NOT a success, so I don't even know where you were going with that argument.

If you look at the Top 10 picks I had down there, they picked well 4 out of 5 times. Pretty good job to me. And going back pre 2000s proves nothing. I stayed in the approximate Vinny Era; going back to the f-ups of Casserly means nothing since only Jansen remains from his tenure.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 19, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Oh, I was never a great runner; in fact, I should have stayed w/ it, and did not!
I didn't have the heart, I guess.

As a freshman I was running 2:15 for 880 YD / half mile, ran a couple of times under 5 minute mile.

Worked hard at it my Freshman year, If I had stayed with it another three years, no doubt the times would have gotten much better.

But please, I am no expert, was not a tremendous runner, but I do regret I quit competitive running so early in life. Would like to know what I could have done.

Have continued to follow Track and Field.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | August 19, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Still waiting to hear the list of us UGA players who made it big....

And please don't insult yourself, us, nor anyone else and list Richard Seymour. Guy is the most overrated player in the NFL.

Posted by: Odell Thurman | August 19, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Instead of Carlos Rogers the skins should have clearly drafted mike williams. Stupid cerrato.

Posted by: je suis un pizza | August 19, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Yeah you should have kept with it RedskinRay1. No question the time would have went down. I can't believe now the 8 is considered a sprint now.

Posted by: jm220 | August 19, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Cork, how much was Yoder on the field last year? Not much. I never understood the Davis pick, but doesn't keeping 3 TE's seems like a luxury, especially since Sellers is also a blocking sort

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 19, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Trade Yoder, Mix, and Rock for a 4th and 7th.

Posted by: Red of the DMV | August 19, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Yoder had two key TD receptions during the Reign of The Todd. Other teams ignore Yoder ... to their peril. Hits hard with soft hands.

Posted by: dcsween | August 19, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

I dig yoder, grunt work lunch pail guy with just enough pass catching ability....poor man's don warren....

Posted by: chrIS lArry | August 19, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Drafts are always hit and miss. At #9, you hope you are getting Pro Bowl talent ... and Carlos Rogers will never be that. But you are also hoping you don't get a costly bust.

Rogers is somewhere between a bust and a decent player. Injuries have played a big part in his career.

If he can recover and be healthy, he'll have underachieved relative to the pick, but a starting CB is not a bust. If he struggles with injuries, it will be wasted pick.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 19, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Hey JM220,
I was a kid, and still recall the Dave Whottle kick!
It was so exciting!

so last night I got on Youtube.com
looked it up and was so delighted to find it!

Yes, I watched it and as he crossed the line found myself w/ a big smile.
Childhood memory! Great Olympic Memory!
Probably inspired me to try running for a while.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LHid-nC45k

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | August 19, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Saying that there are too many TEs. If Yoder was respected by the Spaghetti Gang, then why draft Davis? They will keep Davis, might as well get something for Yoder. I do think Yoder is exactly what you want in a backup TE. Can catch and block, but is easy on the salary cap

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 19, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

If Erasmus James is not cleared to play by the Panthers game, then IR or cut the guy. The NFL is no place for hopes in gimps. We got a locomotive to operate here.

With Jason Taylor on the roster, then Erasmus James calculus changed. Jason Taylor and Andre Carter are every down guys. Evans has majorly stepped up as the rotational DE/DT, relieving Marcus from having to play the down DE (actually, maybe Taylor did that). Regardless, if it takes a long time for a guy like James to get better, then give him the entire year ... maybe some guys will leave in free agency and the Skins will get a replacement 7th round pick. It should not be optional to keep a roster spot open for James based on "hopes". He has a portfolio in Minnesota ... and it wasn't that good ... OK, he was a first round pick, but he is from that consensus worst first round ever (2005).

The tougher question in my book is the Rob Jackson question ... whether to keep or cut. For me, its not the guy, its the position. DE or DT. I think Skins are more reliable (right now only) at depth at DE than they are at DT ... and I would keep Boschetti over Jackson for that reason.

Posted by: dcsween | August 19, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

It's a silly argument but it's hard to say that Double Move was a good pick. I don't know if i'd say he's a really bad pick but 3 of the 4 players picked right below him have a combined 6 pro bowls between them.

Posted by: Skinz | August 19, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Trade Yoder, Mix, and Rock for a 4th and 7th.

Posted by: Red of the DMV | August 19, 2008 12:54 PM

If we're talking trades, then trade next year's 1st round pick for Anquan Boldin ... and clear up two roster spots by putting BOTH of the second round receivers on the IR ... and make them get in condition first. What are the rules about IR players practicing?

Posted by: dcsween | August 19, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Rogers should practice catching raw eggs to soften his hands of stone. If that don't work give him some snow mitts to practice with. Hellboy may have softer hands than Carlos Rogers.

Posted by: Grade A | August 19, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

If we're talking trades, then trade next year's 1st round pick for Anquan Boldin ... and clear up two roster spots by putting BOTH of the second round receivers on the IR

You're kidding right?? I mean seriously, you said this in jest correct?

Posted by: Greg | August 19, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Terrell Davis

Posted by: CBT | August 19, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Molet really pumps my nads!

Posted by: Bender | August 19, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

no luv for UGA tight ends

See " Mercedes Lewis"

6'8" bum

Posted by: Greatt One | August 19, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Terrell Davis, Hines Ward, Charley Trippi, Fran Tarkenton > all


PS Hines Ward = the only 2-time Supebowl MVP EVER

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 19, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Jonathan Sullivan, Quincy Carter, Odell Thurman.

Truth - 0

Anon - 1

Posted by: Anonymous | August 19, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

hrm no he's not :\

I don't know I thought that...

anyway, to sum up, UGA > all

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 19, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Jake Scott

I believe that UGA has produced more Super Bowl MVPs than any other college.

Posted by: CBT | August 19, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

I like nerf balls better, they're easier to catch. The one's we use right now are just to hard, they hurt my fingers...

Posted by: Ben Watson | August 19, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

I have to check that out when I get home RedskinRay1. For me it was Carl Lewis. I know he has sugar in his tank (not that there is anything wrong with that) but he was a beast in the 100 and 200. Last man to win gold in both events.

Posted by: jm220 | August 19, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Molet really pumps my nads!

Posted by: Bender | August 19, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

"It's a silly argument but it's hard to say that Double Move was a good pick. I don't know if i'd say he's a really bad pick but 3 of the 4 players picked right below him have a combined 6 pro bowls between them.

Posted by: Skinz | August 19, 2008 1:05 PM "

So that means we should cut a solid #2 guy? Just because he wasn't the balling out, dominating #1 we hoped he would be and because players behind him were better in the draft, we should trade him now? Don't see the logic there...


We got what we got, he's a solid #2 guy and he's still young. And as someone said, you can't ever fault him for not giving his all out there, dude is a worker.

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 19, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Greg, yes, I'm not serious ... though it WOULD change everything if they got Anquan Boldin.

This week is Carolina, who from their Thursday night game against Philly, looks better than the Colts, Bills, or Jets. This here says the Skins D should expect a bigger dose of running game. Also, something about the guard Jasno was pimping before they brought in Fabini (and well before they brought in Kendall), Keydrick Vincent. Finally, I agree with the article that Mushin Muhammed is back in form.

http://www.heraldonline.com/247/story/757078.html

Posted by: dcsween | August 19, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

PS Hines Ward = the only 2-time Supebowl MVP EVER

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 19, 2008 1:12 PM

That would be correct if Hines Ward won another Superbowl MVP award and if Bart Starr, Terry Bradshaw and Tom Brady were stripped of one each...oh and if I guess technically Montana having won 3 technically isn't a two time winner.

For the sake of brevity though, no you are wrong.

Posted by: Skinz | August 19, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

maybe that's it CBT, I'm not a big NFL guy, just Redskins. Couldn't remember it, I've heard that thrown out a bunch.


and honestly I'm not sure. Would yall consider Mack Strong good?

and what the hell is the hate on Ben Watson, guy had like 40 catches last year, 6 TD's on a team with Randy Moss on one of the best NFL teams ever.

Not to mention he has more Superbowl rings than any of our TE's.


and once again this topic has proven my new slogan for the Dawgs will be fitting for this year - "HI HATERS HI HATERS HI HATERS"

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 19, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

I never said Rogers should be cut or anything like that. As a top 10 pick though he's hardly value. I thought he was having a really strong season last year and I like him far more after his game last year. Also, he's come back ahead of schedule whic to me says he wants to be out there and he worked his buttt off to do it. It doesn't change the fact that I'd rather Merriman or Demarcus Ware both of whom where picked after him.

Based on ST and Landry I'm a big believer that you take the best prospect out there regardless of need. CR was the third rated CB on the board that day.

Posted by: Skinz | August 19, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

In other words Skinz; Game, Set, Match, Career ending OWNED vs. The Truth. Buh-bye Truth, and take your damn uga crap to someplace that gives a crap

Posted by: Anonymous | August 19, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

"PS Hines Ward = the only 2-time Supebowl MVP EVER

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 19, 2008 1:12 PM

That would be correct if Hines Ward won another Superbowl MVP award and if Bart Starr, Terry Bradshaw and Tom Brady were stripped of one each...oh and if I guess technically Montana having won 3 technically isn't a two time winner.

For the sake of brevity though, no you are wrong.

Posted by: Skinz | August 19, 2008 1:21 PM "

Thanks but this was already corrected...Oh and it was me that corrected it. I really don't care either.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 19, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

I'd trade next years #1 for Boldin. He's a good WR. Heck. I'd trade next year's #1 + 1 of the following (Fred Davis, Kelly or Devin Thomas) for Boldin. Boldin is a top WR and this team instantly becomes better. Only issue, Boldin might be pricey

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 19, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

My career can be summed up by mediocrity, as well as getting stabbed in the neck.

However Jonathan Stinchcomb has me beat when it comes to mediocrity...

Go dawgs??....

Posted by: Charles Grant | August 19, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Actually anonymous, please see the post above this one...

HI HATERS

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 19, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Carlos Rogers drops more balls than the Maryland Lottery.

Posted by: Danvin | August 19, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

So now we have 1) joke about a guy almost becoming paralyzed and 2) a joke about a guy getting stabbed.


Interesting. Did I slip and fall onto a Philly board or something? Seriously...

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 19, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

who ate the biscuit, cL or nate?

Posted by: devin | August 19, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Yeah I was just kidding around not trying to be snarky. After reading it, it came off that way.

Posted by: Skinz | August 19, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

If I am planing against Carolina, McNabb found soft spots in the zones on the 5-10 yard routs, I expect that to be shored up a bit so I throw a deep ball play 1

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 19, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | August 19, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

"I'd trade next years #1 for Boldin. He's a good WR. Heck. I'd trade next year's #1 + 1 of the following (Fred Davis, Kelly or Devin Thomas) for Boldin. Boldin is a top WR and this team instantly becomes better. Only issue, Boldin might be pricey

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 19, 2008 1:26 PM "

I like Boldin a lot but isn't this exactly what we need to STOP doing?

And I'm thinking he stays in ARI anyway..

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 19, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Can't have a conversation about failed UGA players without including me....how do I get to the buffet??

Posted by: George Foster | August 19, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

The offense requires two TEs in certain sets and Yoder is the Skins best blocking TE. Most likely Davis will start the year on the weekly inactive list, unless he excels at special teams or injuries at other skill positions.

I expect three TEs will make the final roster -- Goode has shown flashes of talent, so he could be a practice squad addition.

Posted by: Siris | August 19, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

PS - Kregg Lumpkin has a Superbowl ring.

Deal with THAT!

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 19, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

I'm still guessing Rogers won't come all the way back. No inside knowledge of that, but you never find out about a knee injury until a year later, maybe more. Rogers was a #2 caliber CB before he got hurt.

CB and RB are probably the toughest positions for a knee injury, because quickness and cutting ability are at such a premium.

If he loses anything to the knee problem, and I'm guessing he does, he's likely a nickel back sort.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 19, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

AL Zeke
That sounds like a very, very bad classic Danny move

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 19, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Truth, Boldin isn't going anywhere that I know of. But I would trade for a quality guy like that.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 19, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Why would that be a bad move Alex?

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 19, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Corcoran is an A-hole

Posted by: cosmofla | August 19, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

The FO of the blind-leading-the-almost-blind (Dano & Vinny the Trick Fetch-a-lot Pony),
have two of their first three picks (all#2's) ,yet to make a catch. One has yet to play!!!

Both of the so-called big-WR picks would not make the final cut if they weren't the first picks. Period! They'd be cut.

So, while the Dano-lovers will point to the find that Colt most certainly is in the later rounds, those people should know that Colt was not anyone's pick from this disfunctional FO; it was Zorn's, alone.

So, I rest easy knowing that the dynamic dips that are our so-called two-headed GM, are safe in their respective reputation of blundering buffoons!

Posted by: Bulldog | August 19, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Bulldog,

Your an idiot go back to your Cowgirls blog.

Posted by: kmdp4 | August 19, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

A Caller asked LaVar how he felt when Gregggg Williams got the shaft.

LaVar asked if he wanted him to be honest and he said yes.

LaVar said karma is a b*&tch. He said Greggg was the lead henchman on doing him in. He said he tried to tell Gregg go with his gut and not the organization but he didn't listen. He tried to tell him how the organization rolls but he didn't listen.

He said he talked to him after he got fired and they had a long indepth talk. They talked about right a book about the Redskins and Dan Snyder.

He also said he is not talking to Dan Snyder anymore but he loves the Redskins.....

Posted by: 4th | August 19, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse


Carlos Rogers drops more balls than the Maryland Lottery.

Posted by: Danvin | August 19, 2008 1:28 PM

True, but in that case he still successfully defended against the pass. I think will all agree that Rogers probably dropped 10 interceptions last year and needs to improve in that area.

At least, all of the Skins CBs (including Rogers) can tackle. IMO, the most important qualities for CBs are defending against the pass and tackling after a completion.

Defensive turnovers usually occur as a result of a team effort (i.e. a pass rush causing the QB to throw early or inaccurately...) I expect the addition of Jason Taylor will help improve the turnover ratio and allow the CBs to play more man-to-man. Which in turn, should result in more chances for interceptions.

Posted by: Siris | August 19, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

jm, it's okay. it's not like you're agreeing with me on anything skins related.

i love dominance in sports. because it is rare and is such a cool thing to watch. i always root for the dogs unless there is a dynasty in the making like the patsies. i love seeing history made and seeing how these people just keep doing it when everyone expects them to do it. like phelps. loved it. jordan's bulls loved it. gibbs 1.0 loved it. and this guy, bolt, looks like a freak of nature. he's doing what i've never seen done before. carl lewis was before my time sorta...i rember it vaguely...especially his last olympics.

Posted by: dealer | August 19, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

4th, thanks for posting that, but I've moved on from Lavar's bashing of the team. Its just so old, and that horse is long since dead. Let it go Lavar, let it go...

Posted by: Greg | August 19, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Wow Cork, just wow...--BROWNWOOD

First, how was Lavar a bust?.... If it weren't for his shredded-wheat knee and the HUGE ego of Gregggggg Williams, we'd be discussing whether he's the best 'backer we've ever had.+++BROWNWOOD

If by "Ego" you mean a coach who actually demanded his linebackers go where they were supposed to, and know their assignments, yeah, he was a Megalomaniac.

The guy, Arrington, was supposed to be GOD. He was a relative bust, usually out of position, making the kind of Sportscenter plays that get him voted to the Pro Bowl, but not being there to make tackles he should. He was self-centered and selfish, whining about his contract, one he didn't bother to read. Even JoPa complained about him.

Chris Hanberger


+++If you look at the Top 10 picks I had down there, they picked well 4 out of 5 times. Pretty good job to me.+++

And I respectfully disagree. I am NOT saying i would know better, but these guys are PAID to know better. Rogers was the third CB selected--hasn't worked out. TOO MANY high drtaft picks havent' worked out for the Redskins to be contenders. That's my point. Explain ROGERS, ARRINGTON, RAMSEY, CAMPBELL, GARDNER, WESTBROOK, T. JACOBS, etc. and maybe you have a point. That's middle of the pack drafting AT BEST, which not surprisingly, is exactly where the redskins are.

Blame Gibbs, Ball Coach, Snyder, or the Son of Sam, the major consistent factor is V. Ceratto.

Hey I'm PRAISING Vinny's "finds" in the lower rounds. What I'm saying is the 'skins aren't drafting well in the higher rounds. It's my story and I'm sticking to it, and I've enjoyed the discussion. Even tho it's been about, y'know, football.

And going back pre 2000s proves nothing. I stayed in the approximate Vinny Era; going back to the f-ups of Casserly means nothing since only Jansen remains from his tenure.
Posted by: brownwood26 | August 19, 2008 12:38 PM

Posted by: Corkczar | August 19, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

These grapes taste sour.

Posted by: Lavar | August 19, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

As far behind as our rookies are on the play book Bolden would be even further back. He is not in a WC offense right now, the AZ offense is the old Steelers O so that would set him back further as he would be asked to play a totally different passing system. Basically I would not expect him to be able to start and know the play book till mid season.

Secondly, it would leave us with nothing for next draft, and we have too many spots to replace next year to be left with a 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th. At least right now we can swap our 1st back

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 19, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Subtract the name "Colt" and insert the name "Marcus Mason". NOW you're cookin' with oil...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 19, 2008 11:44 AM

You are an idiot.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 19, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

I'll try to answer for Alex.


That would be a bad move because we drafted 2 WR's and 1 TE. Boldin is good but unecessary at the moment. We haven't seen what either of the two WR's can do, they could both possibly be better than Boldin with time. And giving up draft picks is something us Skins fans are supposed to hate.

Boldin's soph year - 56 receptions/623 yards/1 TD. I think both of our 2nd round picks are capable of doing this in a year. Although neither will have the immediate impact Boldin had as a soph, but who usually does?

Calvin Johnson last year - 48 receptions/756 yards/4 TD's. Once again I think either could do this seeing as many snaps as CJ did, but I doubt either of them will.


One great, underappreciated WR is Reggie Brown at PHI. He played at Georgia.

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 19, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Thing is, LaVar wasn't that good. The Skins called it right with him. Once he started getting hurt, he dropped off in his play.

What happened after he left the Skins? Was he a force in NY? No. LaVar was a great player, once.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 19, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

+++-- For me it was Carl Lewis. I know he has sugar in his tank (not that there is anything wrong with that) but he was a beast in the 100 and 200 --+++

Posted by: jm220 | August 19, 2008 1:17 PM

I thought it was Sweet-N-(Down)Low in his tank.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 19, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Something for your Wednesday morning.

Posted by: freakzilla | August 19, 2008 11:04 AM


And by Wednesday, I of course mean the Other Wednesday, known colloquially as Tuesday.

Posted by: freakzilla | August 19, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I know. But I thought I would include it anyway.

I give him this though. He wasn't dwelling on it. He just answered the question and moved on and said he don't wanna talk about Danny boy.

He talked about the NFC East, Olympics, and Politics mostly......

Apparently, Ludicris suggested the OJ be the VP Canidate for Obama....

Posted by: 4th | August 19, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

4th, if as you say, he wasn't dwelling on it, he wouldn't still be talking about how poor Lavar got the boots put to him by the organization.

Posted by: Greg | August 19, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

LaVar was the man, no way you can deny that FACT.

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 19, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

well then the name Ludicris says it all then

Posted by: Anonymous | August 19, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

So, I rest easy knowing that the dynamic dips that are our so-called two-headed GM, are safe in their respective reputation of blundering buffoons!

Posted by: Bulldog | August 19, 2008 1:42 PM

I enjoy their stupid FO decisions, as well. It's like watching the Three Stooges - you know what's coming, but you still enjoy laughing at the outcome.

Posted by: Whambulance | August 19, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Boldin, multiple Pro Bowls. Big target, great hands, 27 years old. Averages 80+ catches and 1,000+ yards a season.

Is that worth a mid to late round #1 pick ? Oh my goodness yes. Would I give up Kelly or Davis or Devin Thomas ... all question marks at this point, for Boldin? In a hearbeat.

And Alex, learning a playbook is NOT going to keep him out of the lineup!!

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 19, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

LaVar has a free pass from me, he was my favorite Skin while he was here. :D

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 19, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Joe Horn cut by the Falcons today.


Said he wants to play for Philly or Dallas...


...yeah his career is over. Just enjoy that 2.5 mil you're getting while sitting on your bum and be quiet.

Posted by: The Truth in 1st person | August 19, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

To build on something dealer said above, it really shouldn't come as a surprise that dominant athletes like Phelps and Bolt have come about. When you look at the accrued knowledge, ongoing revision of training regimens, and the sheer amount of cash invested in sport, it should be expected that athletes should become better and better -- because that's the whole point.

Guys like Phelps and Bolt just happen to have that X factor that makes their bodies excellently suited to their chosen sports.

Posted by: freakzilla | August 19, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Colt-to-Bolt sounds like an awesome future combination ;->

Track stars -- like Bolt -- have excellent straight line speed. However to be successful NFL WRs, they also have to catch, run routes, avoid the press, take a hard hits, and block...

Posted by: Siris | August 19, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Corcoran is an A-hole

Posted by: cosmofla | August 19, 2008 1:41 PM

Thank you for your comment. We regret it is unimaginative, cliched and irrelevant, hence we won't be passing it along to Mr. Corcoran, who has better things to do with his time then deal with the pathetic bleats of Momma-clingin' cellar dwellers.

Oh you nailed the dude, sure, but Kee-rist, you sat at your word processor, pondered what to say, and that's the best you got? Dude? Consider employment in the food service or waste management industry.

Again, thank you for writing. A contribution in your name has been made to the Home for the Terminally Unimaginative.

Posted by: Corcoran's First Assistant | August 19, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Actually its a brilliant move if you think about it using the Alex Zeese political science chart.

(Random celebrity +Crazy political move) x (2.5 x Own PR output >Opponents PR) = positive spin and an overall increase of votes from typical non voters.

Its the exact same equation Arnold used to become Gov.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 19, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Boldin has missed 12 games in 5 years, so he is reasonably durable. Has 5400 yards total and 413 catches. In each of the 3 seasons he played 14 or more games, he went over 1200 yards. He averaged over 5 catches a game every season.

Truth pulls out Boldin's worst season where he played in only 10 games -- in 2004. Seems like the Truth is guilty of omitting relevant facts.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 19, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

beep beep. unless you like Uga stay here

Posted by: Anonymous | August 19, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

trade for Boldin (if we can afford the $$, which I doubt)

beeps

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | August 19, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse


You really think they are going to play anyone who does not know the system?

Unless you think this team is going to the bowl this year I don't see how its worth it.

Posted by: Alex35332 | August 19, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Good thing Colt has time, because Jansen is going to get JC and TC injured.

Posted by: D. Devine | August 19, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

LaVar?

A beast; a wild man.
Who I feel fell into the trap of publicity, big hits and not playing solid LB.

Good? You bet!
Disappointing often? You bet.

When they cut him and his huge salary it was a good move.

On the other hand...
Antonio Pierce?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | August 19, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

He also said he is not talking to Dan Snyder anymore but he loves the Redskins.....

Posted by: 4th | August 19, 2008 1:45 PM

4th, thanks for posting that, but I've moved on from Lavar's bashing of the team.

Posted by: Greg | August 19, 2008 1:48 PM

Sounds like he still likes the TEAM, just not The Owner. There IS a difference.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 19, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

For those Colt haters who keep bringing up the Georgia game.

The truly inept performance by a QB was JC vs USC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH6eO6mj60Y

Posted by: hawaiiresident | August 20, 2008 3:46 AM | Report abuse

"You really think they are going to play anyone who does not know the system?

Unless you think this team is going to the bowl this year I don't see how its worth it"

Then why start JC?

Posted by: Hawaiiresident | August 20, 2008 3:54 AM | Report abuse

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