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The FedEx Experience: A Fan Speaks

We like to turn over this space to Redskins fans/bloggers occasionally and thought we'd do so this morning while we wait for the locker room to open to the schlubs at noon. Jason La Canfora sends this guest blog from Tim:

It has been almost a decade that I have been attending Skins home games as a season-ticket holder. While the coaches and players change throughout the years, one thing that has remained constant is the lackluster game day experience put on by the Washington Redskins staff.

It has been well chronicled throughout the newspaper and internet how Skins fans shell out the most on average to see their team play. In addition, we pay a healthy amount to park in the suburbs and walk the two miles to the stadium. While I agree those things are very frustrating and hard to stomach, I just wanted to bring attention to the apathy displayed every Redskins home game towards fans once we all get into the stadium. The Redskins have tens of thousands of people on their wait list just hoping to buy tickets and they treat their fans accordingly. Basically, if you don't buy your tickets, someone else will, so who really cares what the fans think.

Having said that, I have a couple of suggestions for Snyder and his Operations minions on what they can do should they ever want to make the Redskins game a fun place to be.

Promotional items: If you are going to give away free swag at the gate, make it have a point. The fans will get something out of it and more importantly, the company sponsoring the item will get better exposure as well. Trust me, I am not asking to get Thundersticks, but it was 97 degrees at kickoff last Sunday, how about a small fan or two. Or perhaps a towel like they give out during playoff hockey games?

Scoreboard: How the heck is it that we have the largest stadium in the NFL that seats the most people, but the largest scoreboard is the same size as a Budweiser sign? Any thoughts on seeing a replay from the end-zone seats in the upper deck are futile. I guess this makes sense because if there is one thing that I know about the Redskins, is that they want you to get as drunk as possible. Sure, they cut off beer sales at the fourth quarter, but for the first three quarters you are constantly bombarded with beer. If you have kids and don't want to make the trek down to the concourse, you are out of luck 'cause hardly anything else is every sold at the seats. During the Saints game with it being unseasonably hot, you would think they would up the amount of water vendors, but I didn't see one the entire game.

Scores: How about on those scoreboards you put some out-of-town scores and stats? I know you like to think that everyone that plays fantasy football and bets an occasional game or two coughs up the $25 for the Kangaroo system, but the fact is we don't. We actually want to pay attention to the game that we paid lots of money to see, while keeping tabs on our various fantasy teams. The Redskins are one of the most profitable sports franchises in the world, but we can't get any reliable score updates? Sure, we get the occasional score every 15 minutes or so, but that's about it. The beauty of NFL football is that there are so few games and almost every game means something, so it would be nice to know what is going on outside of Landover. I would even venture to say that at least a fourth of the crowd is in some sort of pick 'em pool or fantasy league, so can you give us some scores and stats?

Halftime: I would love to sit in on the discussions about ideas for the halftime show. I can see it now. Band? Check. Flag? Check. Awful sound system that isn't audible for much of the upper deck? Check. Would it hurt to just get some fan on the field and try a 30-yard field goal for 100 bucks? Or actually do a real punt, pass and kick contest? Have a couple of youth teams play for five minutes? Anything is better than what we have now. I can remember to going to games at RFK and they would have dogs chasing down Frisbees at halftime.

Every year I go to at least one away game and it surprises me how much effort is made by other teams to keep people in their seats during halftime and timeouts. I understand Snyder wants everyone to leave their seats and buy food, but what you end up getting is an empty FedEx Field for the first drive of the second half, which isn't good when the Redskins are on defense.

This past Sunday they did a their 9-11 tribute. Truth be told, I think only about a tenth of the crowd actually knew they were doing the tribute because there was no mention of it before halftime ended. I found it sad that they just threw the names of people that perished on that dreadful day without hardly any kind of real tribute.

Those people gave their lives living the American dream, I would think they deserve a little bit better recognition. How about instead of doing the Popeye's Drive of the Game in the second quarter, maybe during one of the many television timeouts, you do a tribute then when people are paying attention. Or at least let people know what you are doing at halftime so people can pay their respects.

I realize that Snyder's main objective is to make money and there is a rhyme and reason to everything he does. It just seems to me that there are some things so little that he can do that wont cost him hardly anything that will add to the enjoyment of the fans. This stadium caters to the rich and gives a big foam finger to the average fan.

Perhaps Snyder can look down the road at the job that Ted Leonsis and the Capitals are doing as they attempt to build their fan base. When you go to Verizon Center to cheer on the Caps, you actually feel like you are someone that matters and they appreciate you taking the time and spending the money.

Will Snyder ever care? Probably not, 'cause I am fairly confident that I will never give up my seats. As much as I complain, there is nothing like cheering on the Burgundy and Gold. And I am pretty certain, that there are at least 100,000 people every Sunday who feel the same as I do. So chances are, things will only get worse. Beer, anyone?

By Cindy Boren  |  September 17, 2008; 11:01 AM ET
 
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Comments

At least you can catch the games there. I'm stuck up in Connecticut between Pats fans and Giants fans... yeesh.

Posted by: Mattsoundworld | September 17, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

The ideology is something like this:

The death penalty is not considered "murder" because it is handed down to folks who are deserving of it under the law. What they are receiving is just punishment for a crime that they are responsible for committing.

The unborn are totally helpless innocents.

Posted by: p1funk | September 17, 2008 10:36 AM

HAHAHA! I love it. I staunchly support the death penalty and believe it is improperly used to be a deterrant. If a gunman caught on a 7-11 video shooting a clerk were put to death the day after, that would be a deterrant. But to justify what is punishable by death to the living and not support abortion in cases of rape, particularly in a case where it is discovered immediately... Conservative BS at its best. I am a man, I am NOT pro-abortion, I am pro choice. Arrogance to those that believe they should be choosing for another.

Posted by: INDEPENDENT | September 17, 2008 11:09 AM

Posted by: INDEPENDENT | September 17, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Great post. Oh so true. While the NFL experience doesn't compare to big time college football, its sad that the NFL is so 'cookie cutter'.

Posted by: Go Skins Go | September 17, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

When the most you have to complain about is the poor sound quality for the halftime show and the lackluster promotional giveaways at the gate, then the experience must be pretty darned good.

Posted by: Mountdrago | September 17, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

I say shoot whoever said that one should never discuss religion or politics. They are the ones really to blame for the mess this country is in, because every time there is a discussion they come around trying to stop the discussion.

You can't solve these problems or find answers to these questions unless you are freely and openly able to discuss them regardless of setting and situation.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Arrogance to those that believe they should be choosing for another.

Posted by: INDEPENDENT | September 17, 2008 11:09 AM

Posted by: INDEPENDENT | September 17, 2008 11:12 AM

It is not a matter of choice.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Stop whining.

Posted by: What a Baby | September 17, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

So don't buy the tickets and don't go to the games. Man...WTF is wrong with people who do things by choice and then complain about the thing they just chose to do? Here's an idea: Stop doing the things you don't enjoy doing.

Some people don't eat. Get over yourself.

Posted by: CryMeARiver | September 17, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Stop whining.

Posted by: What a Baby | September 17, 2008 11:17 AM

Numbness is what sets in when a nation loses its concept of what is right and wrong. Instead of "stop whining", everyone should be "whining" if that's what you want to call it.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

One thing you have to keep in mind is that this isn't Snyder's stadium. Sure, he could upgrade the sound system or the "jumbotron" but you can't place the entire blame of the lackluster stadium experience on Snyder.

Posted by: Chris | September 17, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

I've been out there three times -- once with my kids -- and I would never go back. Hateful angry drunk people, fights in the stands, no replay, bad sightlines, and the experience of getting to and from the stadium made a bad thing worse. I don't understand why anyone would go when the living room experience with a large high def TV is so superior.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 17, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

I love the game day experience. The atmosphere in the lots is that of a college town. When the fans fill the stadium and the PRODUCT IS QUALITY, there is not a better place to see a live game. See, there it is, a QUALITY PRODUCT. All of these whiney, not true football fan posts are not about football. If this team is winning consistently there is no complaining. Whenever people talk about RFK it is with reverence and respect. That place was a DUMP! But, winning, that occurred quite a bit in the early 70's, 80's and early 90's, so those memories are fond. Provide fans cause its HOT!!!??? I mean, manufacture 90,000 fans in less than a week when you can confirm the heat. Ludicrous. Just watch the game for Cheese-n-rice sakes! Lets see how you feel about the "game day experience" if it is ever for a NFC Championship. BTW, this post is a perfect tool to increase the number of JLA Haters. It is a straight shot at Snyder, which Jason loves to do. He needs to get a life...

Posted by: Season TIX holder | September 17, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Dude - NO ONE is saying don't discuss it. I'm just asking you for the love of all that is holy in your chosen religion - DO IT IN ANOTHER VENUE!@!

SJK, man SHUT UP.

Posted by: Dik | September 17, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Late in the fourth quarter this past Sunday is the very reason I am a season tix holder. Oh, and I watched it on my 72' HD when I got home. Not even close to the same experience.

Posted by: And another thing | September 17, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Sure, he could upgrade the sound system or the "jumbotron" but you can't place the entire blame of the lackluster stadium experience on Snyder.

Posted by: Chris | September 17, 2008 11:20 AM

Jack Kent Cooke built a white elephant in RalJon, but I think that every one of the suggestions in the guest blog is within Snyder's control.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 17, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Great post! I have been thinking what you said for years now. The scoreboard is awful! I agree 100%, Love the Skins and will always go to the game, but for the reasons you just listed, Synder is not putting on the best show they could.
I dont like to think about it because it only gets me mad.

Posted by: Tom | September 17, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

b*tch b*tch b*tch, get over it dude. you know what its gonna be like when you go there, so why complain about it. remember, snyder didnt build the stadium either. lack of some accomodations cant be put on him

Posted by: X-E | September 17, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

It is a straight shot at Snyder, which Jason loves to do. He needs to get a life...

Posted by: Season TIX holder | September 17, 2008 11:21 AM

Isn't that what YOU Jason haters do on a regular basis?

Posted by: From the Desk of Pot Calling the Kettle Black in the Hypocrisy Department | September 17, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

I prefer to share Coach Gibbs philosophy of sharing the Gospel in places where people wouldn't otherwise hear it. Everyone has a right to hear the good news.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Soon the Cowgirls and Giants fans will be paying more per ticket and benind over to afford the PSLs. The NFL is losing their future fan base. How many parents can afford to take their kids to a game? And how many want to deal with obnoxious drunk adults who have been drinking since 1000am when the gates opened and sputter the f word every three seconds. Fed Ex isnt family friendly and I dont take my kids there. And yeah my kids can use the f word in context but seeing dad beat the crap out of some drunk punk ebcuase he spills beer on everyone and wants to fight isnt the example I want to set. I gave up the family tickets after 65 years as a season ticket holder.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

All things are a matter of choice, its all a question of acceptance of consequences of ones actions. You can choose to break the law if you are willing to accept the penalty for doing so, I do it and I am willing to bet others here have too.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 17, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

The skins will be playing back in their rightful spot in less then 10 years hopefully. FED-EX isnt terrible itis somewhat heartless being very much a cookie cutter but RFK was the definetion of a cookie cutter. The tailgate experience is second to none at FED-Ex. The fans bring the heart into the stadium. You give FED-EX a playoff game and no one will complain about the stadium.

Posted by: Stu | September 17, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

I've been a season ticket holder for 3 years now. I love watching my team but I don't buy into Snyder's machine. I eat before I arrive, use the port-a-johns outside of the stadium and never, ever leave my seat at halftime (not interested in missing the entire 3rd qtr. trying to take a leak). I have brought family from other parts of the country and they all agree that FedEx is a dump. It's poorly constructed (not Snyder's fault). The upper deck leaks onto the 200 section underneath when it rains. The bathrooms are atrocious and the food sucks. So rather than whine, I just avoid what bothers me. Snyder knows he has us by the Cojones because we keeping buying. Just wait until he gets the nod to build in DC. We'll be tagged with the PSL's just like the Midgets and Cowgirls. Enjoy it while you can!

Posted by: Vlad The Impaler | September 17, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Congratulations, you scored 1,000,000 RI ITA points.

You're now ITA'd.

Posted by: Dik | September 17, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

My living room is still the best seat in the house...all the replays I want and none of my money goes in Snyder's pockets.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 17, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

I've had a lot worse happen to me. I'll live.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

You give FED-EX a playoff game and no one will complain about the stadium.

Posted by: EXACTLY!!!!! | September 17, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse


My living room is still the best seat in the house...all the replays I want and none of my money goes in Snyder's pockets.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 17, 2008 11:32 AM

Totally, I heard Al Michaels say the same thing on Rome last night.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 17, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

If you want to go to a sporting event live, that is made for the stadium go to baseball, soccer, hockey. Football is the perfect sport for TV.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 17, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

How many parents can afford to take their kids to a game?
And yeah my kids can use the f word in context but seeing dad beat the crap out of some drunk punk ebcuase he spills beer on everyone and wants to fight.
First of all tough guy, make more Money! Plenty of folks will line up to see this team regardless of cost, your so cynical you must have missed the NFL growing into one of the biggest businesses in this country. I hope they build a new place in DC, I will be there.
A Fan

Posted by: Poor Me | September 17, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Actually, Danny does own the stadium, part of what makes the team such a cash cow. Considering it sits empty for 8 months out of the year, doesn't seem to be too much to ask to improve the scoreboard and sound system. Every other arena and stadium in town has a new scoreboard and they're amazing.

Or yeah, you could just not go, and sit at home and watch in HD. Up to you which is the better experience.

Posted by: 5-11 | September 17, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

For Mountdrago - the sound quality isn't just bad for halftime. The sound quality is terrible for everything, to the point where they have a closed caption of what the announcer is saying on the scoreboard. And there is absolutely no chance of hearing the referee when he announces a call.

I really feel bad for those that have tickets but no parking pass (like I used to when I first got tickets). The bus service to the cash lots after the game is atrocious and it takes FOREVER to get to your car. A normal person would be embarrassed to charge money for it, but we are stuck with Mr. Snyder, who has managed to cram 92K seats into a stadium originally designed for 78k.

I gave up on eating at the stadium a couple of years ago. The lines are ridiculously long - probably partly due to the fact you've got 14K "extra" people crammed in there. And the food is barely edible. I bring stuff from home and tailgate.

The games are fun, but just don't expect to much in the way of service and amenities.

Posted by: Mr. Bishop | September 17, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

I'd like to hear the experience report from a corporate box, though. That's probably who they're catering to.

Posted by: Dik | September 17, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

The scoreboard is my only real complaint. Every other newish stadium has the widescreen jumbotron/scoreboard. We have the exact dimensions there that say the Ravens stadium has to put one in but Danny boy skimps on it. I would think he'd want a huge widescreen jumbotron, not only to show better replays to the fans but he could split the display down the middle and put two advertisements at the same time during timeouts etc. That would increase his revenue and isn't that what the Danny wants above all else? Get a f'ing widescreen jumbotron in there you asshat!!

Posted by: Riggo | September 17, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

I'm going to post a complaint from a spoiled whiny fan. If I could only still grow and be taller than Synder!!!!!!

Posted by: Imagine That | September 17, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Late in the fourth quarter this past Sunday is the very reason I am a season tix holder. Oh, and I watched it on my 72' HD when I got home. Not even close to the same experience.

Posted by: And another thing | September 17, 2008 11:25 AM

This is the best point yet. I was there Sunday and still dont have my voice back. We tailgated after the game too. Its just a memory I will always have. And I have seen plenty of games on TV, but this one will always be cherished because I was there.

Posted by: Distraction action | September 17, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

TE - Some of his suggestions are insane though. Not seeing a water vendor? Come on. Besides, what about the fan that wants a beer instead of water...or a pretzel...I'm just saying Snyder can't please all 90,000 people. If this guy doesn't want to get up and go grab a water because he doesn't feel like dragging his kids around...well I'm sorry...don't take your kids.

Posted by: Chris | September 17, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

My living room is still the best seat in the house...all the replays I want and none of my money goes in Snyder's pockets.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 17, 2008 11:32 AM

No lines for the pisser, beer is significantly less than a dollar an ounce, and my couch is a heckuva lot more comfortable than any stadium seat will ever be.

Posted by: Mattsoundworld | September 17, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Well my other complain is obviously that the stadium is way out in Maryland in the ghetto. There was nothing like being smack dab in the middle of the city at RFK. Landover eats a dong.

Posted by: Riggo | September 17, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

The sound system on Sunday was worse then I ever remember it being. It was nothing but muffled noise...I couldn't understand a word of it.

Posted by: Kevin NJ | September 17, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

My living room is still the best seat in the house...all the replays I want and none of my money goes in Snyder's pockets.
Posted by: brownwood26

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Don't the teams share in Television ad revenue? By watching the game you are helping Snyder. You need a full-on boycott, catch up on your gardening or go ride a bike.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Couldn't agree more with this post. Making the trek out from the West Coast is pointless. And I echo brownwood's statement. If Qwest Field weren't walking distance from my house, I probably would never go to Seahawks games either.

I'd also add that the number of drunks in the stands is unreal. Granted, this is true for every single NFL stadium I visit (and I usually get to about 10 a year). And, granted, this is probably indicative of a population that is increasingly disrespectful to one another (or maybe me just getting old and tired of it). I'm all for getting drunk, but do it with a bit of decorum, self-respect, and respect for the people around you.

BTW, as far as gameday experience is concerned, my top three stadiums (and I've been to all except the new Bengals stadium) are:

1. Qwest Field (though the replay screen sucks)
2. Mile High (awesome facility, close enough to Downtown)
3. Ravens Stadium (whatever it's called)

Honorable mentions to: Browns Stadium, Tampa's stadium, Lambeau (though you couldn't pay me enough to spend the night in Green Bay)

The bottom three:

1. Any stadium in California
2. The Meadowlands
3. Miami's stadium

Honorable mentions to: FedEx Field, Gillette Stadium (for traffic to/from), and Texas Stadium (just because it's the Cowboys :-) )...

Posted by: P Diddy | September 17, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Nice post. I have never been to Fed Ex so I cannot judge but know several people who did and gave up their tickets, and several who still do and are not overly happy.

RFK was a dump, but it had character. It was like your favorite little dive bar....that place just rocked.

Fed-Ex Stadium is a corporation, plain and simple.

Posted by: isnadd | September 17, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Please stop crying about Fed Ex Field. The last thing we need is a new stadium becasue a new stadium will also bring PSL's and cost all the season ticket holders thousands more dollars!

Posted by: Kevin, NJ | September 17, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Don't the teams share in Television ad revenue? By watching the game you are helping Snyder. You need a full-on boycott, catch up on your gardening or go ride a bike.
Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 11:43 AM

Ad revenue has nothing to do with the viewrship, but more theTV Ratings which are generated via survey.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

My living room is still the best seat in the house...all the replays I want and none of my money goes in Snyder's pockets.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 17, 2008 11:32 AM

No lines for the pisser, beer is significantly less than a dollar an ounce, and my couch is a heckuva lot more comfortable than any stadium seat will ever be.

Posted by: Mattsoundworld | September 17, 2008 11:41 AM

couple of bi ot ches...

Posted by: Man Up! | September 17, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

You're right--there are thousands on the waiting list for tickets, so if it's such a miserable experience for you then get rid of you tickets and let someone who will appreciate them use them.

The living room is one of the best venues for watching football--you should give it a try!

Posted by: NCICURN | September 17, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Don't the teams share in Television ad revenue? By watching the game you are helping Snyder. You need a full-on boycott, catch up on your gardening or go ride a bike.


Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 11:43 AM

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This is like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Posted by: Mattsoundworld | September 17, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Nice post. I have never been to Fed Ex so I cannot judge but know several people who did and gave up their tickets, and several who still do and are not overly happy.

RFK was a dump, but it had character. It was like your favorite little dive bar....that place just rocked.

Fed-Ex Stadium is a corporation, plain and simple.

Posted by: isnadd | September 17, 2008 11:45 AM

Man, this isnadd continues to astonish and amaze. He did not watch the game Sunday, he has never been to Fed Ex. And yet he continues to post strong opinions on this site. From what point of view!!!!? Fed ex is a corporation, you are an IDIOT...

Posted by: AMAZING | September 17, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

I think the stadium is pretty nice. Been to RFK and the Vet and old Memorial stadium, so I really can't compare to any of the new football stadiums, but I've liked everywhere I've ever sat, love the fact that it's easy to get a beer quickly and easily (or liquor drinks), and think all of the councourses are very nice and clean. I did notice the thing about the scores in the guest blog. As soon as Snyder got his hands on the kangaroos, the scores from all of the other games all but disappeared. I also don't understand how there can be a waiting list for green lot passes when there are so many open spots each week. And the last thing I hate (not Snyder's fault though) is that it takes FOR-EVER to get home after the game is done. I have been to tons of games in Philly, and you can get out of their parking lots lickety split.....

Also from prior threads, anyone who thinks that Dallas and Philly have bad defenses are in some serious denial. It's just that both of their offenses are stellar; so good that it just made each D look bad. Mcnabb was running for his life the other night, and keep in mind that each team's defense or spec teams scored as well. Maybe their secondaries could be a little better, but don't count on Cambell having ANY time to throw against either team. Dallas is freakin' LOADED on offense. Philly isn't bad either, Mcnabb looks like the Mcnabb of 4/5 years ago, and looks like he's got a deep threat again (stupid, but still a threat). Our only prayer is that we "match up well" with them. That game Monday night was scary. Each team looked like the class of the league. Hopefully the Cardinals will blitz the shti out of Campbell this week so he can get used to some pressure again, and maybe get some confidence built if he can beat some blitzes......

Posted by: dlhaze | September 17, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Ad revenue has nothing to do with the viewrship, but more theTV Ratings which are generated via survey.
Posted by: Anonymous


Ad revenue has everything to do with viewership which is derived from the survey. No people watching = no ratings = less ad money.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

3. Ravens Stadium (whatever it's called)

I believe it's "Last Decision before Bankrupcy" Stadium. You buy the naming rights to Hon Arena, you'll be going out of business before opening day...

Posted by: cload & daggar | September 17, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Don't the teams share in Television ad revenue? By watching the game you are helping Snyder. You need a full-on boycott, catch up on your gardening or go ride a bike.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 11:43 AM

It's not a boycott, it's me preferring to watch the game in my shorts with a cold alcoholic beverage that cost me less than $10. It's me preferring to enjoy replays on my HDTV and rewinding with DVR. It's me enjoying not having to stop and think about whether or not I should leave early to beat the 3 hours of traffic.

Not giving Snyder any more of my money is just an added bonus.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 17, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Amazing, why don't you start by posting your screen name instead of being so brave incognito.

Then post a list of what it takes to be a real fan, so I can get with the program.

I'm 38, I've rooted for the Skins since I was 5. I haven't lived in the D.C. area for 20 years.

Posted by: isnadd | September 17, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Ad revenue has everything to do with viewership which is derived from the survey. No people watching = no ratings = less ad money.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 11:50 AM

Sorry I should have been more clear, it has nothing to do with Brownwood's viewership.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 17, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse


I tried Redskin Unrestricted and NEVER AGAIN!!

Here' why.

I KNOW you don't pay him a dime more for doing it, but you have the audacity to insult the viewers by RUNNING AN AD.

It MIGHT be worth suffering thru a commercial IF:

A. There were some production values more sophisticated than the Cable Access Station in East Moosedong, Alaska.

B. There was something better suited for TV than print. Reid writes better than he TVs by a large margin. Without a Prompter his hem and haws are inferior to the written word.

C. If this is the Post's response to The Danny's Terrorist tactics against a free press, the Terrorists have won.

Posted by: Corkczar | September 17, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

If anyone has a problem watching the Skins games, record it and send it my way. I'm not proud.

Posted by: Mattsoundworld | September 17, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Anon,
I belive TV revenues are split among all 32 teams.

Posted by: etrod | September 17, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

I'm all for getting drunk, but do it with a bit of decorum, self-respect, and respect for the people around you.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 17, 2008 11:44 AM

Words to live by Diddy. Words to live by...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 17, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Numbness is what sets in when a nation loses its concept of what is right and wrong. Instead of "stop whining", everyone should be "whining" if that's what you want to call it.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 11:20 AM

You can't whine and complain and still go.

This is a capatlist society. If someone is making a nice profit, no need to change. You can complain, but unless you affect their bottom line, your concerns will fall on death ears not named Reed Doughty......

Also, all you posters who are giving up your seats - If their in the lower bowl, sale them to me because I will gladly buy them and not complain because I can sit in the lower bowl.

Posted by: 4th | September 17, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

I've been to a lot of games at a lot of stadiums, to me, Tampa has the best stadium experience in the league. The pirate ship is just cool, the stadium has a very open feel to it, there are many vendors available at all times not just beer, the food is actually good, and there are just open grass fields around the stadium for cheap parking and tailgating. Its pretty sweet, especially when you're there to watch the Redskins win a playoff game. I haven't been to Green Bay or KC though and I hear their pretty sweet on game days.

Posted by: zjfr2 | September 17, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

and the last time I went to FedEX, Arizona last year, was the last time I'll ever go. For so many reasons, the cost, the seats suck, the food is terrible, the beer is expensive the tailgating is pitiful, the parking is ridiculous, and the staff are jerks. I prefer watching it at home on my HD plasma and drinking my $12 a case miller lites not my $8 a beer lites. Oh yeah, and having the Sunday Ticket, I can watch any game I want too the rest of the day, I'm not stuck in traffic for the rest of the day.

Posted by: zjfr2 | September 17, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

everyone out to lunch?

Posted by: dlhaze | September 17, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to hear the experience report from a corporate box, though. That's probably who they're catering to.

Posted by: Dik | September 17, 2008 11:39 AM

Actually, Dik, one of my three visits was in a corporate box on the 50-yard line, including close-in parking. It was when the 'Skins beat Baltimore the year that Baltimore won the Super Bowl.

Food was catered by Ridgewell's. A neighbor who handles the McDonald's advertising account got the tix from the station that broadcasts the game. When my wife and I showed up they said "Who are you?" but were gracious after we mentioned McDonald's.

It was a very sterile experience. Food was great, the look was fine, but some of the people were doing business and not watching the game. Some were watching it on a big screen at the back of the box -- not even facing the field. Crowd noise hardly penetrated the box, except from the TV. No one jumped up when something exciting happened.

Lady offered me the box seats for another game, and I said no thanks.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 17, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Apparently so - Just a thought on the guest blog - essentially, these are the same complaints I've heard from folks who go out to Reliant Stadium to see the Texans - (or Reliant Stadium to see the rodeo, but THAT's another story)

So, to me, it comes down to - how important is the live experience to you? FedEx wasn't around when I moved down here, but I wouldn't trade those rare visits to RFK for anything - just the expectation of seeing my beloved 'Skins in person, the pagentry of the game, etc. makes the experience worthwhile.

I don't know if I'd fork over the money for season tickets, though. I like to taste the experience to know what it feels like, but my couch or a sports bar are much more comfortable.

Posted by: John D in Houston | September 17, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Hi everyone. I'm the guy who posted the entry above. I spend hours each week doing things I don't like. I go to Redskins games - boy, that sure sucks. I go out to eat and order food I don't like, I listen to music, watch TV shows and read books I don't enjoy - all kinds of totally uncool stuff that's no fun at all for me. Then I spend time writing lame blog entries about how I didn't enjoy those experiences. Heck, I don't even enjoy that!

OK...gotta run now. I have to go post on another blog all about how much it sucked posting on this blog.

Posted by: Complainer For Life | September 17, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

My mom was dating a guy who had box seats. I wish that had worked out.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 17, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Let me call the whaaaaaaambulance for you...

Posted by: Stop Going To Games Then | September 17, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

So, John D, are you back in Houston? Is a piece of ReliantDome lodged in your driveway?

Posted by: cload & daggar | September 17, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Losable type is acting up. Cant post from safari

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 17, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

ISNADD,
Well, I guess if I were to post as WD, Wee Dog, or some other clever off shoot like "ISNADD" I would be much more "brave" and less "incognito". Asking someone to do that is pretty intelligent. I could just post as "Joe" every time, but then it would be hey thats not "Joe"! How do you know!? Alright, from now on I will consistently post as Bill. That way I am not "incognito". I am just worried if I always post as "Bill" some thief may come in here and steal my identity because I am releasing so much personal info. Anyway, my issue with you ISNADD is you are a MUSH. You come in here and have a negative attitude about everything. As was posted earlier, everyone loves RFK. Because a lot of wins and fond memories occurred there. Since you have never been to Fed EX, your opinion is nothing more than piling on. If the Skins win the next THREE NFC Championships there. All the sudden the fans will be like its "an expensive crappy fan experience" but its our little "expensive crappy fan experience"

Posted by: Screen Name | September 17, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

i've been attending skins games for seven years at fed ex and i will start by saying that nothing was like RFK, in terms of the warmth and ambiance. however, i have to disagree with some of the slams by this fan that is featured in this post. i sit in section 449 in row 19 and there were a lot more water vendors this past sunday, there were still beer vendors, but quite a bit more water. the scores are flashing constantly on a scoreboard across from me. it's possible that from the endzone you can't see this score board. i also go to one out of town game most years, either to philly or ny or both, and the halftime ceremonies are very similar in scope and lack of interest. a lot of folks i know go to the bathroom during halftime. my biggest beef with FEdex is that many of the middle tier seats, the yellow seats, are consistently not filled. they used to pump hail to the redskins thorugh the speakers when they scored, which annoyed me, but i was happy to see that this didn't happen this past week. i'm glad thye got rid of the funky four. it seemed they came out in the 3rd quarter and the game was always very tight and i am always too anxious to get into them dancing to the same song. the food is just as expeensive at other stadiums, in philly beers are the same price as is parking and in ny, the beers are $1 cheaper and the parking situation there is a nightmare. i eat before the game in the parking lots where i tailgate so i don't know about the food, but i'm sure it's a rip-off like everywhere else you go for entertainment, concerts, movies, sports. anyway, i really miss RFK and the one game a year i used to go there was always amazing, but overall, i don't see fedex being much different than any other stadiums in terms of cost, at least on the east coast. i will be going to the ravens game this year and the carolina game next year, so maybe i'll have more perspective.

Posted by: skins 75 | September 17, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Also I cant seem to post from my Safari browser anymore.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 17, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Tuesday Nickel

John Keim
WarpathInsiders.com
Sep 16, 2008

This week in the Tuesday Nickel, John Keim discusses Durant Brooks, Cooley's Blog, Santana Moss' deep
routes, Portis vs. Mitchell and Ports' comments.

1. Durant Brooks is struggling.
The kid beat out Derrick Frost this summer – barely – but has [blanked] the bed in the first two games, with a net
average of 28.3. That’s high school territory. Worse, the kid looks rattled. The buzz among the media is that he’s
about to crack. Will he? We’ll learn a lot about him this week in terms of how he handles the pressure.

2. The Blog.
Chris Cooley genuinely felt bad about what happened with his blog. It’s why he’ll be given a pass on what
happened. What he says publicly is what he says privately as well.

3. Santana’s deep routes.
It’s great that Santana Moss caught a 61-yard touchdown pass the other day. What that will do, however, is make
him more explosive underneath. When he’s being used right, he does not always go deep. But corners must now
play off him a bit because of the threat. What he likes most of all are the short underneath crossing routes.

4. Portis-Mitchell.
For anyone who missed Clinton Portis’ stint on the John Thompson show on ESPN 980 needs to check it out. He
went toe to toe with ex-Redskin Brian Mitchell, who, as everyone knows, is unafraid to criticize. Portis finally
fought back. It’s hard to take sides in this one; I like Mitchell an awful lot. Always found him honest and forthright.
And Portis is a fun guy to cover. He has his eccentricities, but he plays every bit as hard as Mitchell. I will say,
BMitch had to work harder to get in the league and then stay in. Round 2 is next Tuesday.

5. Portis’ comments to the Washington Post last week caused a little stir at Redskins Park.
The PR staff got a bit of tongue lashing from above for Portis saying how he’d like to run behind the best line or
play in the best scheme. He’s said comparable things in the past, but not with this coach.
John Keim covers the Redskins for the Washington Examiner and is a contributing editor for
Warpathinsiders.com. He has covered the team since 1994. Some of his other stories can be found at
dcexaminer.com

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

wow. I've got season tickets and enjoy the live experience, but I would never take my young kids there. Anyone that reads these posts can figure out why. I'm assuming most of you folks are sober, but holy crap, what a bunch of mean-spirited losers.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Consider the way that fans are treated, from the yearly parking fiascos and laughably outrageous prices to the generally poor in-stadium experience, and the only conclusion is that Snyder views Redskins fans with utter contempt. We should not accept poor treatment as an ancillary of fanship -- that it's all in the name of supporting our team. Nor should one dismiss legitimate grievances because someone else will happily take the seat. We have a god-awful owner who is entirely ignorant (if not actively hostile) toward the concerns of fans who support the team. Support which, by the way, has come as result of NOTHING he has accomplished (or lack thereof) as an owner. The day this franchise moves past the Snyder ownership cannot come soon enough.

Posted by: Chris | September 17, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

My mom was dating a guy who had box seats. I wish that had worked out.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 17, 2008 12:41 PM


Worked out for me just fine....

Posted by: Alex's Mom's Ex | September 17, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Consider the way that fans are treated, from the yearly parking fiascos and laughably outrageous prices to the generally poor in-stadium experience, and the only conclusion is that Snyder views Redskins fans with utter contempt. We should not accept poor treatment as an ancillary of fanship -- that it's all in the name of supporting our team. Nor should one dismiss legitimate grievances because someone else will happily take the seat. We have a god-awful owner who is entirely ignorant (if not actively hostile) toward the concerns of fans who support the team. Support which, by the way, has come as result of NOTHING he has accomplished (or lack thereof) as an owner. The day this franchise moves past the Snyder ownership cannot come soon enough.

Posted by: Chris | September 17, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Blog Administrator | September 17, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

OK...gotta run now. I have to go post on another blog all about how much it sucked posting on this blog.

Posted by: Complainer For Life | September 17, 2008 12:41 PM

Nice! LMAO. Wish I'd thought of it myself and, if I'd thought of it, that I could have executed it this well. At least I got to read it.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 17, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Oh yeah - the box - my company was very liberal with the Suite Tickets at Reliant, so I've seen the Texans from there - agree with TE - more folks were into the game then in his box, apparently (our company's owner is not a business type, really, he's just a big kid who's a sports fan) but being at the top of the stadium did isolate you - and Texans fans are pretty rowdy -

Posted by: John D in Houston | September 17, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Get back out there and sell! SELL!!!

Posted by: Randolph Duke | September 17, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Snyder didn't build the stadium. That's on JKC. That said, Snyder has done little to improve it. The good seats cost a small fortune and the "affordable" seats might as well be in an open air prison. The scoreboard sucks. The parking situation is a joke. And Danny rapes us all for food and drink. I'm not Snyder bashing but it's his joint and his responsibility.

Posted by: Mac | September 17, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

So, John D, are you back in Houston? Is a piece of ReliantDome lodged in your driveway?

Posted by: cload & daggar | September 17, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

I have been to Fed Ex a couple of times, the experience was fine did not have any trouble.

But I am with the group who loves watching the game from home, I sit in my basement with some nice beverages, I can pause the game if I need to use the facilities, I can rewind plays.

Posted by: Flounder | September 17, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

If we are 10 years away from a new state-of-the-art football stadium, how about investing in a high-tech jumbotron and sound system. Think of the $$$ you could make on ads AND the fans could watch replays without a telescope.

Posted by: FedEx 208 | September 17, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

++++ "my company was very liberal with the Suite Tickets at Reliant, so I've seen the Texans from there"+++

something liberal in Texass? That's unpossible!

Posted by: Ralph W. | September 17, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Pretty much NOBODY likes FedEx and with good reason...it's built nowhere near public transportation, parking is a nightmare, and traffic patterns were evidently NOT considered during its construction. They need to bring the Skins back to the DC city limits ASAP, or at least to a location that has nearby Metro access.

Posted by: Crunkenstein | September 17, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

I will not sit idly by and read insults to the fine people of East Moosedong, Alaska. I've spent many nights in East Moosedong, riding my BMX, swatting away ballflys, choking down sausage, and sometimes abstaining. Bristol, my daughter, went to East Moosedong and came back with a wonderful political statement in her belly. You can see Russia from East Moosedong, and lots of moose dong too, which is good served with a cream sauce and a little bit of sherry. And anyway, the view there is much better than your FedEx Field, where all you can see is a megachurch surrounded by characterless neighborhoods inhabited by leftist elitist Washington insiders -- probably the same ones who stole my f'ing bridge. Give me my bridge back, nevermind I don't want it, though all options are on the table, hockey mom, reform, etc.

Posted by: Sarah Palin | September 17, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Good comparison in the guest blog to the Capitals. If Ovechkin keeps playing the way that he does, then for the first time in forever this city might start becoming more of a hockey city than a football city. And if that becomes the case, then Snyder suddenly has a lot more to lose than treating fans like crap - be it, in the short run, fan attendance, or in the long run, growing indifference.

Posted by: Josh | September 17, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Now that we have a blog on how lame the stadium is to the fans, how about an honest point of view about how lame the modern fans are in the stadium?

I've been to 1-2 games a year since the mid 80's and I have to say the cell phone talking, don't get to my seat till mid first quarter, more interested in drinking and buying stuff than the actual game, I'm going to leave with 10 minutes to go fans of today are pretty sorry next to the old RFK fans. It's not about the football game and helping the team win anymore. It's a yuppie afternoon.....

If we're interested in the truth, tell that side of it too.

Posted by: Jason | September 17, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Past Post
What about Justin Tryon as a punt returner?

did kick-offs in college & has 4.5 speed

maybe the fear he showed in coverage will mean he is even faster when being chased

Posted by: mdepo | September 17, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Here's the thing...he's killing the golden goose. That 100,000 person waiting list is a lie. There may have been an 100,000 waiting list when they played in a stadium that held 55,000 people and they were winning. This is no longer the case. I've had friends that have waited 1 year to get season tickets, they give away season tickets on Redskins radio every year, and they send e-mails to season ticket holders every week telling them that the "media and visiting team has given back tickets." The proof is in the pudding...that stadium is NEVER full. I completely understand the club level seats do not count against the sell out, but the upper deck this past weekend was maaaaaybe 75% full...for the HOME OPENER. Somebody needs to get to the bottom of this and figure out how Snyder is pulling the wool over the NFL's eyes and get these games blacked out here. That is the only way he's going to learn.

Posted by: DCLance | September 17, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Canforna aims his pee-shooter at Snyder. What a joke. We all know you hate Snyder and Cerrato. We don't need your constant reminders of that.

Why can't you just cover the Skins without bias?? You know, professionally.

People who make it to enough games to know what to whine about, should just be happy they live in a state with a team to go see and be happy they can attend a professional football game.

Wow!! This blog and most of it's bloggers are so full of negative rhetoric.

Posted by: As usual... | September 17, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Losable type is acting up. Cant post from safari

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 17, 2008 12:48 PM

Well, tell us your coordinates and will send special forces to get you out of there!

Posted by: 4th | September 17, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Blog Administrator | September 17, 2008 12:48 PM

Does this mean we can finally get Lachumpfora tossed for all of his blog posts outside of Redskins football?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

It's busy today, so I don't have time to read all of the comments; if someone already pointed something similar out, I'm sorry.

As Buffalo native who has attended FedEx (Oddly enough, last years Cardinals game), I have to agree with the author regarding fan involvement. Particularly, NHL arenas tend to be more fan involved than NHL stadiums. While this may have to do with the number of people and how that affects how close to the field/ice you can get, I do notice a more consistent effort at Buffalo Sabres and Toronto Maple Leafs games than I do at Bills and Redskins games in terms of facilitating fan involvement. That, and for an NHL arena of 20,000 we have an HD jumbotron and real-time stats for every major sporting event that coincides with that game. Just saying.

Posted by: AppleScience | September 17, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

So Jason, where is the letter from a fan who has positive things to say about the Redskins and/or Dan Snyder? Oh that's right, you don't post anything that's counter to your I-hate-the Redskins-and-Dan-Snyder-is-Satan philosophy.

Posted by: Redskins Insider Ombudsman | September 17, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Our German Shepherd Dog is approximately 10 years old and she is getting more neurotic by the day. Being left alone (without humans...she has two dog buddies) for more than an hour or two causes her to search for ways to get out of the house and she is usually successful. There is not a door in our home that she cannot open and she even figured out how to open the garage door with the button on the wall.

We have heard that low doses of Benadryl might be enough, but didn't know if that was safe or recommended. She weighs about 75 pounds if that matters.

Posted by: The View from 222 | September 17, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Please people this show is about health problems of the elderly and it will air next week. If you wanted to talk about pet problems, that show was taped last week and is being aired this week.

Posted by: Taped Call-In Show | September 17, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

I will briefly share about my 2 different FedEx experiences:

1)Regular seats - Family had been a season ticket holder for a long time. Seats in the lower bowl were great, sort of behind the sideline at about the 25. Could hear pads/helmets crashing on the plays. The scoreboard is archaic. Danny needs to hook up one of those sweet hi-def joints like the Nats have. Prices for everything (of course) are off the charts. Best bang for your buck is the chicken fingers and fries platter. It's always great to be at the stadium - good fans (even when seats are filled up with haters from other teams I enjoy the trash talking), good vibe (when its going well), and it is freaking HUGE in there when the joint is filled up and screaming.

2) Corporate box - I once got to go to a game and sit in a box that was part of the owner's club level. It was out of control nice. Buffet table in a joint lobby area serving crab cakes, roast beef, etc. Full bar. Leather seats. TVs showing all sorts of games. Even had some Xboxes set up for the kids, pool table. It was like being in the lobby of a luxury hotel. The box itself has heaters situated over the lines of seats in case the weather is cold and you still want the window open.

For me the stadium's location and parking are just horrendous to deal with and prices are too high. But I like to go if it's one someone else's dime!

Posted by: p1funk | September 17, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

"but the largest scoreboard is the same size as a Budweiser sign"?

THAT'S CALLED COLD BLOODED CAPITALISM CHIEF !!!
BUT DON'T YOU DARE SPEAK BAD ABOUT IT OR YOU MIGHT GET CALLED A COMMUNIST BY A REPUBLICAN !! LOL !!!

Posted by: Johnny Big Balls | September 17, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm late on this, but only 25% of Redskin game attendees play fantasy football, no way! If it was under 60%, I'd be shocked. Although I do enjoy the drama of game scores announced infrequently, it is absurd. Everyone in that stadium has interest in other games.

We also have a horrendous scoreboard. But, as was said, why should Snyder pay a couple million for a new scoreboard when it makes no difference on revenue? Maybe the new Dallas stadium will inspire him to improve the facility and gameday experience for reasons other than money.

A more serious issue for me is that with the way the front office is being run, the 'shine' from the franchise has faded. I'm sure the Cowboys do quite well, but Jerry Jones wants to ensure that his team retains its prestige. As a lifelong Skins fan, Snyder should have some pride.

Posted by: Jon | September 17, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

I'm headed to the Skins-Cards Sunday for my first game at FedEx in 5 years. I'm hoping for a raucous and fired-up crowd on the heels of the exciting finish vs. the Saints last Sunday. We're about 20 rows up behind the Skins bench at about the 40. What can I expect from that vantage point?

Posted by: Quinn | September 17, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

There is absolutely nothing like watching MY Skins play in Our home stadium! It is the best feeling in the world, and all the other NFL teams should be so lucky to have fans like Skins Fans. You are always going to have the drunks, and the fights, but thankfully, it is limited. If it offends you so, then don't go to the game and enjoy it from the tranquill setting of your home. I on the other hand, drove 14 hours to see our Home opener, and loved every minute of it. FedEx Field was rocking, we made it loud and pushed the team!! GO SKINS!!!

Posted by: TSR | September 17, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to hear the experience report from a corporate box, though. That's probably who they're catering to.

Posted by: Dik | September 17, 2008 11:39 AM


My company used to have corp box tix that they would raffle off to employees at times. I've watched two games and a concert from there. The food was really good everytime. The private bathroom was nice. The view of the scoreboard was poor but since there were TVs with the game on that really did not matter. The window opened and you could hear the the crowd and the company I was with was all into the game. The sound was horrible which did not make for a good concert experience. Traffic - it is what it is. It's really really nice to do when its all free. If I was paying thousands of dollars...there would be a lot to get irked about.

As far as regular seating, I've been to both Ford and Silver Dome in Detroit and RFK. I recall liking RFK the best but it was definitely due to the memories of the games that I was lucky enough to see. At all the places, food was expensive, the bathrooms sucked (traffic was better however). But I saw Art Monk break the all time reception record and John Riggins break off a nifty 51 yd run against the Cards on MNF at RFK. Saw Barry Sanders on Turkey day which was a treat.

In thinking about, I will have to agree that it is the memories of the games that makes the "stadium experience" for me. There was nothing like "being there" to see those events. I can put up with a lot to have those. That said, being able to see the replay on the Jumbotron when those events happen would be nice.

Posted by: Dave! | September 17, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Can we have a separate post simply about the scourge that is Mark Kessler?

"IT'S THIIIIIIIIRRRRRDDDD DOOOOOWWWWWWNNNNN!!!!"

Posted by: Bobtimist | September 17, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

The only real problem with going to a Skins game is the cost of food. I have never been to another sporting event where the food or beer was more expensive. I get absolutely smashed before the game so that I don't have to spend $8 on a beer. Dan would make so much more money if he lowered the price of food and beer because people like me wouldn't boycott

Posted by: Skins fan | September 17, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

I like the 20 minute wait to get into the stadium during the phony security check. C'mon it's a contraband check.

At RFK I once totted in a case of beer in a plastic cooler...completely legitimately. Y-u-ummmy.

I think the poorest part of the stadium are the sightlines, something is just off. I can't put my finger on it for the glare coming from the inaccesible club level seats that are always empty.

RFK...Okay, now I'm all weepy. Talk amongst your selves...I'm all choked up.

Posted by: Me so Zorny | September 17, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

To the people that say "Stay home and watch on TV because it is better", I disagree. After you have been going to games in person for a couple of years, you really learn how to watch it in person.

Now that I've been going in person for 7 years, I can't stand to watch on TV (even with the replays). TV coverage never shows the whole feild. You have to watch what the producers choose for you to watch. And I REALLY hate it when they do a close-up of the quarterback's face during the snap count. What are the DB's doing? Where are the recievers lined up? Drives me crazy.

I prefer to watch at Fed-Ex even with all it's problems.

Posted by: kjh | September 17, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

This smells fishy. Did J Caca ax this guy to write a hatchet job or did this guy send this in unsolicited? J Caca getting tired of hatcheting up the Skins so he axes someone else to do it for him?

Scha-mooove move J Caca.

Posted by: Hater | September 17, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Pay $6000 per year for 2 club seats, $200 for 1 orange parking pass, $48 for 2 burgers, 1 fries, 2 waters from Dano's J Rocket burger joint. Then I gotta stand in pee using the restroom while waiting in 10 deep lines. Great experience. Thank you Dano, appreciate it.

Posted by: enuffalready | September 17, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

I've been going to Skins games since RFK. Yes, I wish Fedex had a 50 storey giant glass teepee visible from space that sent off smoke signals you could see in Ohio every time we score. However, compared to other stadiums (NY, Philly, and Fort Worth, to name a few) the sightlines are clear, the selection of food & beer is strong, and the tailgate atmosphere is really good every week. Some stadiums do give us a run for our money (Raymond James in Tampa, for example), and it certainly isn't like a big college game, but overall, the atmosphere is pretty solid for by NFL standards.

So I suggest to the whiners that they get some perspective, and if they insist on complaining they stay home and sell their tickets to real fans: people who stand up and yell their head off when the Skins are on D on 3d down, shut up when we're on O in the red zone, don't leave early, and never, ever, ever boo their team. HAIL SKINS!

Posted by: Real Fans Don't Boo | September 17, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Not sure if anyone mentioned that the Shuttle bus parking (Apollo Lot) has been jacked up to $40 F'n dollars. I couldn't believe it when I got there. I thought $30 was outrageous now this. I took out my anger on a usher (sorry dude) who demanded to see my ticket stub on the way to my seat even though I told him that I have been sitting there since they built that crappy, NO home-field advantage stadium. My question is, what if I misplaced my ticket after I gained entry at the front gate, I wouldn't have been allowed to go to my seat?! I have loved the Skins for nearly 40 yrs. Have missed only 5 Regular games since 1980, but they are making it harder and harder to keep attending games every year. Thank goodness for 50" HDTV ... Hail to the Redskins ... F you Snyder

Posted by: Monkman63 | September 17, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

At least you can catch the games there. I'm stuck up in Connecticut between Pats fans and Giants fans... yeesh.

Posted by: Mattsoundworld | September 17, 2008 11:09 AM

except for the weather, i'd trade ya. i'm stuck in SoCal between Norv and Raidernation.

Posted by: mdrockjock | September 17, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

I prefer to share Coach Gibbs philosophy of sharing the Gospel in places where people wouldn't otherwise hear it. Everyone has a right to hear the good news.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 11:27 AM

and everyone has a right not to have warmed over neolithic shepherder mythology foisted on them every time they turn around.

GET OVER YOURSELF!

Posted by: mdrockjock | September 17, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

I went to FedEx Stadium a few years back for the first time and it was one of the most memorable times of my life! Point blank. Dallas game of course. Anyone complaining about all the extra stuff simply don't go. Give me your tickets, it is plenty of people that would I know that would take your spot in the seats.

Posted by: mastdark81 | September 17, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

i always hear the complaints of about FedEx. Win or lose, I generally have an incredible time there...well more so when the Skins win. Most of the people I know dont complain one bit about the stadium because a) they have gotten over what they dont like b) realize everything this idiot complained about is what makes Snyder so brilliant and so rich c)because the stadium really isnt that bad.

In fact, the amenities are just fine...its a football game. Do you really wanna eat that crappy stadium food anyway? Thats why you tailgate...because you can save money. Dont have a grill to bring, fine bring a sandwich and eat it in the parking lot.

About the scores, give me a break dude. In the day of iphones, blackberrys, 3g cell phones, and even gophones, there is no need for a scoreboard. You say you wanna pay attention to the game, then actually pay attention to it and forget about the out of town scores.

Like others said, stay home and watch on your couch!

Posted by: jperkmd82 | September 17, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

fedex, just like ownership and his main- man, is a joke. don't understand why people still attend and support this team??

Posted by: jon | September 17, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Prior to the beginning of the season, I got a voicemail from the Skins saying my name came to the top of the list for season tix. I can't remember exactly when I went on the list, maybe when I heard about the current stadium being built. Can't say I bothered to return the call.

I've been to games at RFK, but watching at home or even a sports bar with friends/fans is a much better experience.

The fact that I'm not directly putting more money in the Danny's pocket is the icing on the cake. I'll watch on TV, buy food/drinks at a bar, but I won't buy tickets or any Skins items as long as the Danny owns the team.

Posted by: 012 | September 17, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Hey blog adminstrator bend over and yet Vinny show you how he and Danny play with gerbils punk!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 7:11 AM | Report abuse

well after what we saw on Monday night with the Cowgirls and Feagles... I'm wondering if we (skins) will be able to score that many points... Somebody answer that for me???

Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

FedEx was built in a hurry with the idea of getting it done before JKC passed away. The only thing they got right was the original seating arrangement. The original plans called for 78,000 or so seats, and the infrastructure (bathrooms, concessions, etc.) was built around that number. I stopped going to FedEx about 5 years ago, after maybe 30 or so games, for many reasons, but the two biggest reasons were the "Corporate Blitzkrieg" that Snyder brought to the stadium (which is annoying), and the overwhelming number of belligerent drunk fans. Say what you will about RFK, but people going there for a game were respectful of the people around them at the game. That disappeared from FedEx a long time ago. Hopefully the NFL's new Code of Conduct for fans will resolve that and make the gameday experience back closer to what it used to be.

As for the stadium itself, Snyder owns it, and would best be served by blowing it up and building a new one in the same spot. Go play your home games at College Park or Baltimore for 3 years, it will be fine. And Danny, if you do, please note there is NO real prestige with having the most capacity. Fans want sightlines, bathrooms, concessions, comfortable seats and a couple really good scoreboards where they can see replays. 78,000 seats would be ok. 68,000 would be ok with me. You don't need 92,000 people to have noise, you can design that into the architecture (see: Seattle) PSL's would be ok, too, IMO. I figure with FedEx about to be the oldest stadium in the NFC East we're maybe 7-10 years from some sort of move on Snyder's part anyway. Build something with a retractable roof and you guarantee a Super Bowl here.

Posted by: Rob | September 18, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

+1 to showing updated score from around the league

+1 to showing relevant replays EVEN OF THE BAD PLAYS

Posted by: ej | September 18, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Just be patient, once the Cboys and Gmen have their new stadiums done, Snyder will be moving back to DC in a new building full of goodies and ready to host a Super Bowl

Posted by: Anon | September 18, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

I agree with the post 100%. I've been a season ticket holder for 5 years. But I love the live game day experience. There is an electricity in the crowd that you can't get sitting at home watching it in HD. I will never give up my tickets. I wonder how many of the the peps posting about never going to another game would buy my season tickets?

Posted by: Shock | September 18, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

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