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The first teams on the Redskins' first day of camp

Although you don't want to read too much into what you see during 11-on-11 drills during the first practice of training camp, there were a few noteworthy faces in the starting lineups.

When the first-team offense took the field, Clinton Portis was lined up as the running back and Chris Cooley as the tight end, which is not a surprise. But what was surprising was the No. 2 receiver: Joey Galloway.

Both Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly took the field with the second-team, led by quarterback Rex Grossman. Without Trent Williams, the Redskins used Will Robinson as the left tackle with the first team. We're not sure what to read into that.

The Redskins didn't need to slide Artis Hicks or Jammal Brown over there for a training camp practice, but what about Stephon Heyer?

As for the defense, without Albert Haynesworth, the first-team defensive line consisted for Maake Kemoeatu at nose tackle and Adam Carriker and Kedric Golston as the defensive ends.

Phillip Daniels lined up with the second team. Lorenzo Alexander lined up as the first-team outside linebacker, a position he's expected to battle Andre Carter for throughout camp. In the secondary at safety, Kareem Moore lined up with LaRon Landry.

By Rick Maese and Jason Reid  |  July 29, 2010; 8:27 PM ET
 
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Can't keep up..

Posted by: Diesel44 | July 29, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Joey Freakin' Galloway is the #2 receiver?

We're freakin' doomed. What the hell is wrong with Thomas? I know Kelly is injured (again), but why isn't Thomas ahead of Galloway? Galloway is collecting Social Security.

Man, if Moss misses any time this could get ugly fast.

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | July 29, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse


Can't keep up..

Posted by: Diesel44

First we wait a week for a new thread. Then......................................

Posted by: hessone | July 29, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

robert238-

From HogsHeaven

Should the Redskins sign Shawn Andrews?

by Tiller56 on Mar 18, 2010 7:21 PM EDT

I trust the Eagles scouting dept when it comes to evaluating O-line talent. They have had a pretty solid O-line for the last decade. they seem to have the talent, that when 1 guy moves on, they just fill the spot from within. Now I know they have added some FA's on the O-line(Peters last year being the most noticable), but they do a very nice job of drafting and developing talent.

I know Shawn Andrews has had back problems, and I know he's a complete headcase, but when he's healthy, and not singing Show Tunes in the locker room, he is a hell of a player. Now, I don't know how he will check out medically, but he has already said he plans on playing again, so i'm believing the back has got to be getting better.

If he checks out medically, I'd take him any day of the week. He can play either G position and also RT. What a huge upgrade he would be to our line.............if he is healthy.

Posted by: Diesel44 | July 29, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

rob238-

On June 2, 2010, Andrews was selected in the third round of the 2010 UFL Draft by the Omaha Nighthawks. He didn't sign.

Posted by: Diesel44 | July 29, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Early reports out of Redskins Insider are that Diesel44 failed his conditioning test...

Posted by: freakzilla | July 29, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Early reports out of Redskins Insider are that Diesel44 failed his conditioning test...

Posted by: freakzilla | July 29, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

I'm liking the way Shanahan is appraoching camp.

Make DT and MK work and earn their way up the ladder.

Hey Albert: The "Litle boy who tried to be coach" is gone gone gone up the road.

Run Albert Run. LMAO.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | July 29, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

No posts for a week, then RI serves them up like a bad waiter that brings your main course a minute after you're served the appetizer.

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | July 29, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse

And that freakzilla is falling for the double move.

Posted by: Diesel44 | July 29, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

"That's exactly right," Shanahan said. "And that's part of being in the offseason program. You don't have to take the test. But there's a certain percentage of workouts that you had to be here. And if you're in that percent, you didn't have to go through the conditioning test because we knew you're in good shape."

There is a certain amount of disingenuousness in this double speak. You would think from reading it that players do a lot of cardio work at the OTAs and that probably isn't true. OTAs ain't exactly boot camp. In fact, if a player breathes on another player this gets reported to the union and the team loses some OTA days.

Posted by: DLoad | July 29, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

give shawn andrews vet min. if healthy he would solve some o-line instead of lost in space will robinson

Posted by: robertg238 | July 29, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

give shawn andrews vet min. if healthy he would solve some o-line instead of lost in space will robinson

Posted by: robertg238 | July 29, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

give shawn andrews vet min. if healthy he would solve some o-line instead of lost in space will robinson

Posted by: robertg238 | July 29, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

A few thoughts on the first team

1. Hope Kareem Moore can hold onto the #1 FS spot. It's really the best case for the team.

2. Daniels on second team makes sense to me. Because of his age, Daniels in a spot rotation as a #2 could be kept fresher for the season.

3. Is Heyer on the right side as the #2, or is he 3rd string as of today? Either way not good as I see Capers backing up RT when all is said and done. Congrats for today Mr. Robinson.

Posted by: TWISI | July 29, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

A few thoughts on the first team

1. Hope Kareem Moore can hold onto the #1 FS spot. It's really the best case for the team.

2. Daniels on second team makes sense to me. Because of his age, Daniels in a spot rotation as a #2 could be kept fresher for the season.

3. Is Heyer on the right side as the #2, or is he 3rd string as of today? Either way not good as I see Capers backing up RT when all is said and done. Congrats for today Mr. Robinson.

Posted by: TWISI | July 29, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Early reports out of Redskins Insider are that Diesel44 failed his conditioning test...

Posted by: freakzilla | July 29, 2010 8:39 PM |

He's 61 years old for Crissakes. You would too at that age. I'm tellin' ya, there's a limit to how much you can get out of over-the-hill RBs.

Posted by: DLoad | July 29, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

The players routinely ran wind sprints as part of the off season conditioning program. Hence the term: Conditioning. OTAs were a different entity all together, meant to install various portions of the offensive and defensive schemes. Hence the term: Organized.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | July 29, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

give shawn andrews vet min. if healthy he would solve some o-line instead of lost in space will robinson

Posted by: robertg238 | July 29, 2010 8:44 PM |

Dude has a bad back, and a mental condition. Why???

Posted by: TWISI | July 29, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Omg READ THIS

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/29/haynesworth-shanahan-exchange-words-after-failed-conditioning-test/

Shanahan told AH that he was "never in shape" and than said "boom, roasted"

Posted by: RedskinsNo1 | July 29, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

give shawn andrews vet min. if healthy he would solve some o-line instead of lost in space will robinson

Posted by: robertg238 | July 29, 2010 8:44 PM |

Dude has a bad back, and a mental condition. Why???

Posted by: TWISI | July 29, 2010 8:49 PM

I agree, teams usually don't give up on 27 yr old 2x pro bowlers for just a bad back. The dude is bat shat crazy..

Posted by: Diesel44 | July 29, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Omg READ THIS

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/29/haynesworth-shanahan-exchange-words-after-failed-conditioning-test/

Shanahan told AH that he was "never in shape" and than said "boom, roasted"

Posted by: RedskinsNo1 | July 29, 2010 8:50 PM

Reading comprehesion my brother. The article said "We don't know if Shanahan then said Boom Roasted." Plus, an earlier post claimed that Shanahan stated they were civil.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 29, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Players DID do a lot of running in the OTA's and were in the weight room getting pushed by Redskins employees, while Haynseworth was being trained by his own employees with no pressure on him somewhere else.

I actually do suspect that Albert is in great shape though. I feel like Shan would have done this to him either way, which I think is hilarious and awesome. I mean Shan said he might be able to pass in a day or two or a week. Is one or two days of cardio really going to magically make him be in shape and pass the test? I suspect Haynesworth will pass tomorrow and then be put on third team D for a week or two as a deserved and just punishment. Then he will crush Romo's skull in the first game and everyone will forget about this mess.

Posted by: bosshog7169 | July 29, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

*comprehension*

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 29, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Malcolm Kelly participates in first Redskins practice


And now that he has, your fearless leader would like to send a mighty "Hail!!!" out to those bloggas who worked to keep RI alive this July:

scottcampbell1975
beantowngreg
beep-beep (our mentor)
redDmv (our Malcolm X)
i8Hdallas
noonefromtampa
kurtshanaman
blackbagops
moodlymooodlymoo
redskinhead
brandon_in_cali
brownwood(our leader)
skinsneedagm
stu27
skinsfaninkenohe
diesel44
twisi (the most knowledgeable blogga)
theCork
vic1
diesel44
hessone
freakzilla

These bruthas kept things going during the time others worried--like me--about stuffed called baseball, families, and paying bills.

And to honor their work, your fearless leader has decided to drink a twelve pack of Sam Adams' Boston Lager tonite and watch porn with mrsmoe.

Tomorrow, I will be on the road to Nawlins for my final 5 day vacation, and hope one of these blogg hoggs keep things going.

HTTR: 10-6 is doable.

But even if we finish 5-11 I'm still a redskin fan.

Peace, my jiggas.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 29, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

ooh ooh that smell, can't you smell that smell? ooh that smell, the smell of loss around you? wow, bum street is getting worse by the minute. Galloway, a car lot attendant at LT, Portis who runs a 5.5 40 Y D, and that plodder Cooley in the line up. Shut it down and wait for hockey season cause this is going to be rough.

Posted by: doyouktt | July 29, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | July 29, 2010 8:47 PM |

Pure speculation on your part just as on mine. But the bottom line is that most DL would have failed the AH test irrespective of what offseason program they were or were not in.

Posted by: DLoad | July 29, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: TWISI | July 29, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

I haven't been intoxicated in some time.

Is urinating on oneself usual?

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 29, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 29, 2010 8:57 PM | Report

Enjoy your time with mrsmoe tonight and on your vacation.

Posted by: TWISI | July 29, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Is urinating on oneself usual?

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 29, 2010 9:01 PM |

Not at all. I often pea my pants when they roll off the fork.

Posted by: DLoad | July 29, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 29, 2010 9:01 PM

Let it flow, Moe, let it flow.

Posted by: stevek20147 | July 29, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Joey Galloway is running 1st string? Shame on you both Thomas and Kelly

Posted by: coparker5 | July 29, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Reading comprehesion my brother. The article said "We don't know if Shanahan then said Boom Roasted." Plus, an earlier post claimed that Shanahan stated they were civil.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 29, 2010 8:55 PM |

Disgusting, isn't it. Who would have ever thought that a gossip rag would have flourished in a smash-mouth sport? Or should I say Florioished?

Posted by: DLoad | July 29, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

N'awlins in August. You gotta hand it to MistaMoe, he's got brave.

PS -- get the pecan pie with a scoop of french vanilla ice cream at the Gumbo Shop on St Peter. Mrs Moe will be most grateful.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | July 29, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

I haven't been intoxicated in some time.

Is urinating on oneself usual?

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 29, 2010 9:01 PM

Sounds like you are in mid-season form.

Posted by: lemming | July 29, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Damn, just seen Haynesworth on NFL Network. Dude looks lean. I hope the rest of the Skins linemen are as out of shape as he is.

Posted by: coparker5 | July 29, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Every high school Coach in America employs the same tactics during the 1st week. Put marginal 1st team players on 2nd team to scare them to work harder. Nothing more, nothing less. I love the message though! Everyone is on Alert... (been a long time since I posted. Never have seen the character counter)

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | July 29, 2010 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Is the Commish going to lower the boom on Tana or not? I guess the more time that passes the lesser the likelihood. When Harrison was flaged I think he actually had HGH mailed to him. At least Tana wasn't that dumb.

Posted by: DLoad | July 29, 2010 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Everyone is on Alert ...

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | July 29, 2010 9:18 PM |

Also, everyone is on Albert ...

Posted by: DLoad | July 29, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

I know this is out of nowhere but here it is. I think Mike Furrey makes the squad. Dude looked solid a couple of years ago in Detroit. It's hard to look good in Detroit.

My prediction for WR's:
Moss
Kelley
Thomas
Furrey
Galloway
Armstrong

One of the following 2 will make it as a special teamer/return guy:

Banks
Austin

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 29, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Albert does look good in the WaPo pic. Now maybe the pic is deceiving, but he's close to ready if he's not there yet.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | July 29, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Damn, just seen Haynesworth on NFL Network. Dude looks lean. I hope the rest of the Skins linemen are as out of shape as he is.

Posted by: coparker5 | July 29, 2010 9:16 PM |

There's a picture of him on Redskins.com too. Although it's only from the stomach up he does look pretty good.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 29, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

scottcampbell1975

"I think Mike Furrey makes the squad. Dude looked solid a couple of years ago in Detroit. It's hard to look good in Detroit."


I think that if you drop the 3rd quarterback, a guy like Furrey has a spot as a 'hybrid' type player who cn step in on teams and back up in two spots.

Doing so allows you to carry 6--not five--receivers.

This makes sense to me, but you wonder if the Shanahans feel the need for Colt asa a 3rd team quarterback who just holds a clipboard and doesn't ever play.

We'll see.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 29, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

"Although it's only from the stomach up he does look pretty good."


I don't know about Prince Al, but about me:

Waist up: the myth.

Waist down: the Legend.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 29, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Just for yucks, Shanny should put Silver through a conditioning test after he signs his contract. Dude is an animal. He ran a 4.7 in the Combine. A 300+ lb lineman for Crissakes. When he pulls to block for the Ancient Mariner, Ancient will be huffing and puffing to keep up. Don't know how often Shanny will put OL in motion though. He is a Zone Block dude which seems such a waste with a OL like TW.

Posted by: DLoad | July 29, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | July 29, 2010 8:47 PM |

Pure speculation on your part just as on mine. But the bottom line is that most DL would have failed the AH test irrespective of what offseason program they were or were not in.

Posted by: DLoad | July 29, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

My post was not speculation. It was based upon various reports, including this here blog. Terl reported at length about it as well.

I'm thinking most DL would not have needed to go back into the building after the first portion of the test. If AH had stayed out, he would have passed. He tried to re exert his will, and Shanny (correctly) put the smack back on him.

Properly prepared players don't need to make a head call after a scant ?30? ?45? minutes of warmup and a 300 yard shuttle/ sprint.

It should be pretty fricking clear that Shanny is completely in charge, and does not give one iota of a f*cK what AH, his agent, jreid, riggo, lavar, and various and sundry other weenie writers and assorted dooshbags think about how he is choosing to run his program.

Its all about control now. AH lost it, lamely tried to get it back, Shanny has it, and the entire front office is backing him.


Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | July 29, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

"Although it's only from the stomach up he does look pretty good."


I don't know about Prince Al, but about me:

Waist up: the myth.

Waist down: the Legend.

Posted by: MistaMoe

The older I get, the better I was

Posted by: zcezcest1 | July 29, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

"Although it's only from the stomach up he does look pretty good."


I don't know about Prince Al, but about me:

Waist up: the myth.

Waist down: the Legend.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 29, 2010 9:36 PM |

Funny stuff.

If he does only carry five wides I take the last one off the bottom of the list and move him to the second list.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 29, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Moe-

Now thats's funny.

Reminds me of our college motto..

Play like an allstar
Party like a rockstar
Hammer like a pornstar

Posted by: Diesel44 | July 29, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

"I'll get two more treatments on it today," Kelly said. "Like I said, the way it felt yesterday, I didn't think I was going to be at practice today. So that just shows you how fast it's healing."

New trainers, booya!!

Posted by: RomoLongballs | July 29, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse

diesel44

Reminds me of our college motto..

"Play like an allstar..Party like a rockstar...Hammer like a pornstar"

Ours was:

"A friend with weed is a friend indeed, but a friend with no weed is not a friend you need."

There was more to it, but, for some reason, I can't remember the rest.


Posted by: MistaMoe | July 29, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

RLB- New FO, Trainers, & upgraded facilities. If they were willing to cut AH and offered that option to AH before he cashed that $21 million check, I'm pretty sure they would have no problem cutting a WR that hasn't accomplished anything, is made of china, and doesn't contribute on special teams.

Funny how that motivates some players..

Posted by: Diesel44 | July 29, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

diesel44

Reminds me of our college motto..

"Play like an allstar..Party like a rockstar...Hammer like a pornstar"

Ours was:

"A friend with weed is a friend indeed, but a friend with no weed is not a friend you need."

There was more to it, but, for some reason, I can't remember the rest.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 29, 2010 9:53 PM |

Ours was simply

DRUGS!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 29, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

It should be pretty fricking clear that Shanny is completely in charge, and does not give one iota of a f*cK what AH, his agent, jreid, riggo, lavar, and various and sundry other weenie writers and assorted dooshbags think about how he is choosing to run his program.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | July 29, 2010 9:37 PM |

But think back to the last time he was a HC. All he needed was for his team to win one game out of the final three to win the division and they lost all three. You don't think that haunts him and at least at the subconscious level he questions his own leadership ability? Now it could be a case of him simply having been in one place too long. He had been in Denver 14 years. But who knows? I don't think that it would have happened to a Joe Gibbs team though. Gibbs never had dick standing contests with one of his players like he is having with AH. In fact, Gibbs actually paid a visit to John Riggins in Kansas to get him to return after he he had deserted the team for a year.

Posted by: DLoad | July 29, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

It should be pretty fricking clear that Shanny is completely in charge, and does not give one iota of a f*cK what AH, his agent, jreid, riggo, lavar, and various and sundry other weenie writers and assorted dooshbags think about how he is choosing to run his program.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | July 29, 2010 9:37 PM |

But think back to the last time he was a HC. All he needed was for his team to win one game out of the final three to win the division and they lost all three. You don't think that haunts him and at least at the subconscious level he questions his own leadership ability? Now it could be a case of him simply having been in one place too long. He had been in Denver 14 years. But who knows? I don't think that it would have happened to a Joe Gibbs team though. Gibbs never had dick standing contests with one of his players like he is having with AH. In fact, Gibbs actually paid a visit to John Riggins in Kansas to get him to return after he he had deserted the team for a year.

Posted by: DLoad | July 29, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Well kids. I just ordered my NFL Sunday Ticket. Let's get it ON!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 29, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

scottcampbell

"Ours was simply: DRUGS!"


I gotta 'raise your hand' moment:

My 20 year old University of Fla. future doctor daughter asked me the other day:

"Daddy, did you smoke weed back in the '80s?"

I paused, remembered separatng stems and seeds on an old Led Zep album cover the winter of 1987, and said:

"No," lying. "I never smoked pot in college."

"But after 20 plus years of marriage to mrsmoe, I honestly have to do it everyday now that I've graduated."

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 29, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Anyone in the least concerned about the Carter/Alexander outside LB competition? Why do we keep hearing about them,what going on with LBs McIntosh & Henson& Blades? Do we not have any free-agent rookie LBs? I don't care how much Haslett can coach, taking DEs and playing them at LB is a recipe for disaster. Somehow, two coaching staffs have this belief that L.Alexander can be put anywhere on D and I don't know why. He's not Seau.
Haslett believes he's going have Carter and Alexander going forward blitzing, but offensive coordinators will scheme & get them going laterally. Then what? For ten years, I have watched Jason Witten abuse NATURAL linebackers on that shallow cross when we play them, now I get to watch as Carter/Alexander @ OLB is schemed into covering him on a crucial third & 8 and Witten grabs his customary 17 yard backbreaker.
Sigh, teams keep trying to copy the Steelers, but the Steelers have a few things going for them- Polamalu to cover their LBs butts, LeBeau to run their defense and a phenomenal ability stretching over 30 years now to find LBs or college 'tweeners to convert to LBs. We're not doing that we're trying to take what we have already and make them ALL, not just AH, do radically different things. The Steelers don't do that, they don't have Casey Hampton blitzing from an inside LB position. As complex as the Steelers blitz scheme seems, they actually keep it simple-the LBs and safeties blitz & the D-line stunts or hold their positions.
Pro or Con-any thoughts, anyone?

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 29, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Good thing those seeds and stems are things of the past. I'm more likely to find a shark's tooth.

Posted by: SMACK1 | July 29, 2010 10:29 PM | Report abuse

And why is Phillip Daniels still on this team/!?!? We know the "Daniels Drill"-say the right things and then get a season ending injury in the 1st game. Torn triceps, Achilles'...something...it's always something with PD.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 29, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

You have a point Armchair but this is all just a building process. Coaches are going to run things their way. They made the switch to the 3-4 and it will take a few years to get the best personnel in place. I suspect it will look a bit different next year, and the year after, etc. Concerned? A little. Losing sleep? Not hardly.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 29, 2010 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Well kids. I just ordered my NFL Sunday Ticket. Let's get it ON!

Posted by: scampbell1975
~~~~
Why? Unless you have other teams you follow, the NFL Redzone is good enough particularly since they show scoring drives, not just scores. Save your money.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 29, 2010 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Armchair- You should do a little research on Phillip Daniels. Not only is he's a class act, he's a mentor, has work ethic that's contagious and still has football left in him. He's a perfect fit for a 3-4 DE.

I do wish he was 5 years younger tho..

Posted by: Diesel44 | July 29, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Well kids. I just ordered my NFL Sunday Ticket. Let's get it ON!

Posted by: scampbell1975
~~~~
Why? Unless you have other teams you follow, the NFL Redzone is good enough particularly since they show scoring drives, not just scores. Save your money.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 29, 2010 10:41 PM

I haven't missed a game in I can't remember how many years and I don't plan on it now. I just moved to Cali. In Ohio we used to go to BW's to watch 'em but now they are on during church so I will have to DVR them. Besides, I watch a LOT of football.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 29, 2010 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Redskins making major push to get Trent Williams into camp
Posted by Mike Florio on July 29, 2010 10:33 PM ET
More and more first-round picks are coming to terms. To date, however, not a single top-five selection has been signed.

That could change tonight.

Multiple sources tell us that the Redskins are closing in on a deal with tackle Trent Williams, the fourth overall pick in the 2010 draft.

One source said that the Redskins are making a "major push" to get Williams signed. Another source said that a deal was close earlier today, but differences arose.

Either way, we're told the Redskins want Williams in camp by Friday, and that it could happen before the sun rises on Friday.

Hopefully MDS will have insomnia again.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 29, 2010 10:47 PM | Report abuse

scamp- I used to get every Skins game on local broadcast down here. Then those stupid Panthers came to NC.

Nobody even likes them.

Posted by: iH8dallas | July 29, 2010 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Naw Diesel man, forget that mentoring junk-none of our young'uns give him credit for that. He's the Ladell Betts of the defense, somehow escaping dead weight purges time and again. Like you said, if it was 5 yrs ago, perhaps. He will get hurt with a season ending injury within the 1st month-he always does.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 29, 2010 10:53 PM | Report abuse

He will get hurt with a season ending injury within the 1st month-he always does.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 29, 2010 10:53 PM |

He always does huh? You're swiftly approaching unreliable status.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 29, 2010 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Wait a sec, what young un's-we don't have many, now that I think about it. Hope Orakpo is learning something from PD.
~~~~
Damn, Scamp-in Cali loving the Skins'? "Die-hard is what they call him". Sunday ticket makes sense for you.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 29, 2010 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Dude, Phillip Daniels is a waste of time. When is the last time PD made a game-changing play, sequence of plays, or had a sequence of effective games? We acquired AH and BO last year for a reason-our linemen weren't bringing it.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 29, 2010 11:02 PM | Report abuse

@scamp
Dude, Phillip Daniels is a waste of time. When is the last time PD made a game-changing play, sequence of plays, or had a sequence of effective games? We acquired AH and BO last year for a reason-our linemen weren't bringing it.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 29, 2010 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Double posted-Ugh

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 29, 2010 11:05 PM | Report abuse

@scamp
Dude, Phillip Daniels is a waste of time. When is the last time PD made a game-changing play, sequence of plays, or had a sequence of effective games? We acquired AH and BO last year for a reason-our linemen weren't bringing it.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 29, 2010 11:03 PM |

I don't know if I would call him a waste of time. He certainly isn't in his prime but he is a decent contributor off the bench. Especially in the run. He actually is one of the better DE's for stopping the run even at his age. Mentoring and leadership ability is something a locker room needs. Getting waxed in the first month once doesn't equate to always.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 29, 2010 11:09 PM | Report abuse

PD is a waste of time? He's 37 and still works as hard as anyone. If all our players had his and LFB's attitude, leadership and work ethic, we'd be in the Super Bowl. He may not be an impact player at this point in his career, but he's a true professional. Hard to overvalue leadership and a team attitude.

As for Galloway at the #2- I wouldn't read too much into that. I expect DT and/or MK to step up and earn the starting spot, but Joey will provide depth and a veteran presence to make them better. The Ageless One, go on now JG!

HAIL

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | July 29, 2010 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Bashing PD is straight Tard. Guy is a beast stuffing the run, and is a warring gamer with massive locker room leader intangibles.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | July 29, 2010 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Amen SFIK! How's life in Hawaii? Do I really need to ask?

HAIL!

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | July 29, 2010 11:27 PM | Report abuse

AH is getting all this grief, which he deserves, but is interesting that a rookie that has yet to play a down is going to get $30 million or more guaranteed, and has failed to sign and show up. All this rookies say it's up to my Agent, that's BS.
Don't see any harsh words about him. Will Shanny give him a hard time when he shows up?

Posted by: oldtimer4 | July 29, 2010 11:28 PM | Report abuse

***Non-football related post***


Roger Waters is charging $250 per ticket (not including the lovely ticketmaster "convenience" fee's and such) for his The Wall Live show. Now I love Pink Floyd, top 3 bands for me. But $250? I don't think so.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 29, 2010 11:33 PM | Report abuse

AH is getting all this grief, which he deserves, but is interesting that a rookie that has yet to play a down is going to get $30 million or more guaranteed, and has failed to sign and show up. All this rookies say it's up to my Agent, that's BS.
Don't see any harsh words about him. Will Shanny give him a hard time when he shows up?

Posted by: oldtimer4 | July 29, 2010 11:28 PM |

He might but consider this: you apply and are offered a job. Do you just take the first offer thrown your way or do you negotiate for the best that you can get no matter how long it takes? I tend to not just jump on the first piece of crap thrown out there.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 29, 2010 11:41 PM | Report abuse

oldtimer4,

The rookie was there for the entire offseason workouts. AH wasn't. If it goes awhile that he isn't signed, then Shanny will say something.

I think AH took a extra long break like he did in a few games last year. I think Shanahan saw that and called him on it. Go coach.

Posted by: ac1007 | July 29, 2010 11:46 PM | Report abuse

Bashing PD is straight Tard. Guy is a beast stuffing the run, and is a warring gamer with massive locker room leader intangibles.SkinsfaninKaneohe
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You couldn't be more wrong. Phillip Daniels does not stay on the field long enough to be effective. Screw that locker room bulls$$t! If he was that much of a presence-why all the chemistry problems? Where are the stories of PD talking to Portis about dedication and commitment from last year. Or to Haynesworth for that matter. We've had a team of underachievers the entire time PD has been on this team. Why is that? Where was Mr. Locker Room when we had Portis and Campbell sniping at each other last year. So much for leadership.

But enough about that.
I can't think of single play that this man has made, even little ones. All he does is get hurt for the season in the 1st month-that's it.

You are severely overrating this player and until players like PD, Andre Carter, Mike Sellers & Reed Doughty are cleaned out-the beat will go on same as before.

You must be watching his old games with the Chiefs and Bears. He's a bum. Sorry to have to break it to you dummy.

Was 'dummy' needed? Nope, not anymore than straight 'Tard.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 29, 2010 11:51 PM | Report abuse

oldtimer-

Apples and Pomegranates...This always happens, he'll be signed before this week is over and he'll be treated just like anyother rookie. Even Orakpo missed a day or two last year.

Posted by: Diesel44 | July 29, 2010 11:52 PM | Report abuse

PD is a waste of time? He's 37 and still works as hard as anyone.
Notorious_LMG
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Yes, he is. "Works as hard as anyone"-how do you know that? He barely plays. Phillip Daniels is always 'saved' for the regular season as though he's special, only to get hurt. He's some cut.

Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane-wait, he just got hurt....again.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 30, 2010 12:01 AM | Report abuse

You couldn't be more wrong. Phillip Daniels does not stay on the field long enough to be effective. Screw that locker room bulls$$t! If he was that much of a presence-why all the chemistry problems? Where are the stories of PD talking to Portis about dedication and commitment from last year. Or to Haynesworth for that matter. We've had a team of underachievers the entire time PD has been on this team. Why is that? Where was Mr. Locker Room when we had Portis and Campbell sniping at each other last year. So much for leadership.

But enough about that.
I can't think of single play that this man has made, even little ones. All he does is get hurt for the season in the 1st month-that's it.

You are severely overrating this player and until players like PD, Andre Carter, Mike Sellers & Reed Doughty are cleaned out-the beat will go on same as before.

You must be watching his old games with the Chiefs and Bears. He's a bum. Sorry to have to break it to you dummy.

Was 'dummy' needed? Nope, not anymore than straight 'Tard.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 29, 2010 11:51 PM |

I think you're wrong about lockerroom leadership. But I'm sure if you asked people that play the game they'll tell you how valuable they are. Most of those things you are speaking about are offensive side guys getting at each other. That falls on offensive leadership ie. Campbell. PD is a defensive guy. I have a feeling you haven't been in a whole lot of football locker rooms growing up. They are indeed beholden to their own side of the ball.
You keep talking about him getting injured in the first month like it happens all the time. It happened once. ONCE.
Also, some of those type of players you speak of have already been cut. You can't cut the whole team so you have to keep some of the old stand-by's.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 30, 2010 12:02 AM | Report abuse

@old timer
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When it gets to the Michael Crabtree level,stretching into the season, I think we'll all be chagrined, but we're not there yet.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 30, 2010 12:04 AM | Report abuse

This attempt by Shanahan to piss off Haynesworth could work, Haslett has formed a bond with Haynesworth, therefore, Haynesworth will go through any Shanahan's assault with the mindset that he's only doing it for Haslett, that way Shanahan saves face, Haynesworth saves face, and all is jolly or is it? But things could change if the assault becomes an insult. Soap opera 101. The story continues.

Posted by: abxinc | July 30, 2010 12:22 AM | Report abuse

Amen SFIK! How's life in Hawaii? Do I really need to ask?

HAIL!

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | July 29, 2010 11:27 PM | Report abuse

LOL, it doesn't suck. We went and took some pics of the Black Pearl that is in K' Bay. Supposedly Johhny Depp was spotted shopping in our local mall. Big Times indeed.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | July 30, 2010 12:25 AM | Report abuse

"They are indeed beholden to their own side of the ball."
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Then why in the world are we sitting here talking about his locker room presence?
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Scamp-
You're parsing the definition of leader to support your opinion. Daniels, if he's the leader-type would lead the whole team, I don't hear much about how Reggie White only lead the defense. Ray Lewis is the leader of the Ravens, period. Not just the defense.
I don't know what spell Daniels has on ya'll, but he is a roster-hogging, injured too-much, check collecting bum. The Ladell Betts of the defense.

For years Football writers would say how good Ladell Betts was, how he was physical, how he was a great compliment to Portis. Even Betts himself believed that b/s, making his lil' comments about playing time, getting more carries,etc.

And guess what? Every time that little so and so got on the field, a blade of grass would trip him. Or Mike Sellars' ankle. Or a measly shoe-string tackle. Betts would get run over on blitz pick-ups. What's more he was frequently injured. Remember that time, Betts broke that tackle? Me neither-he almost never did. But the Pre-season football annuals and assorted football media/writers used to praise that bum as though he was the second coming.

That's how I feel about you all with Daniels-there's nothing you can say that will convince me to distrust my own eyes. I'm a fair person, that's why I mentioned his time with the Chiefs and Bears. Daniels WAS a solid lineman-7 years ago. All he's been with us is an injury-prone talker-you all can call that leadership if you want. He's talked a good game- same as Renaldo Wynn, another player who somehow made it on our roster the past few years for no good reason. Sure, they are positive and they say the right things, but can they play?

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 30, 2010 12:29 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 29, 2010 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Yer an idiot. Cant put it any plainer. Guys like PD help your team win... they have been through the wars, and help the young guys keep their heads in the game. They are the dependable pros that every team needs if they want to make a run.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | July 30, 2010 12:29 AM | Report abuse

Whateves armchair, you're entitled to your opinion, however wrong it is. I'm not sure why you put Ladell Betts up as an example of Phillip Daniels. You tell me I'm parsing my definition while attempting to prove your point using a whole different person. For your info, I was leading the get Ladell gone bandwagon for a while. He was never a leader, he was just a guy. He was never a strongman, he whined a bit, and lived off of one good year. Ladell Betts and Phillip Daniels were never in the same catagory. Ladell should fell honored he was ever mentioned in the same breath.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 30, 2010 12:35 AM | Report abuse

ANd besides that, Ive seen PD make play after play after play. It ain't glamourous, and often, he doesn't make the tackle. He just collapse his side of the line, holds his ground, and LF or another guy coming to the ball gets the tackle. He gets a lot of tipped balls as well.

Again, yer an idiot if you think a) PD is injury prone and or washed up, b) doesn't make the makeable plays and make the defense and the players around him better.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | July 30, 2010 12:37 AM | Report abuse

This is the second time I've called BS on an ArmchairQB post. He is the type of fan who sees the highlights of other teams and assumes that they make highlight plays on the regular. Armchair, what do you mean make a play. If Phillip makes a tackle on a rb for say a 2 yard gain, sure it's not flashy, but isn't effective?

I proved him wrong about his special teams comment yesterday and now I got him on Phillip

In 08, Phillip Daniels missed the whole year.

The other four seasons as a Redskin he has missed only 1 game...so much for your bogus durability claim

He had a four sack game against the cowboys in 05. I dunno why you don't remember that...

There is a differece between being a leader and being a bully. For You to pin the responsibility of being "THE" whole team leader on PD's shoulders is ignorant at best.

Posted by: MimiAnsari | July 30, 2010 12:37 AM | Report abuse

This attempt by Shanahan to piss off Haynesworth could work, Haslett has formed a bond with Haynesworth, therefore, Haynesworth will go through any Shanahan's assault with the mindset that he's only doing it for Haslett, that way Shanahan saves face, Haynesworth saves face, and all is jolly or is it? But things could change if the assault becomes an insult
abxinc
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Interesting point. Buddy Ryan and Jerry Glanville mastered that psychological ploy with the Bears, Eagles, Oilers and Falcons respectively. If at some point AH starts talking about "playing for HIS coach, Haslett" we'll know that it's working.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 30, 2010 12:41 AM | Report abuse

Interested in what the special teams thing was yesterday Mimi.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 30, 2010 12:44 AM | Report abuse

@MiniAnsari- When was the 1st time? What special teams comment yesterday.

HOLD UP! What are you talking about-you've proved me wrong on nothing! I don't even know what the hell you're talking about

So let's back up to Special team comment- I have all night.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 30, 2010 12:45 AM | Report abuse

What thread are you talking about!

Let me know so I can go back and read your comments. Let's not pat yourself on the back for comments you made when I logged off chump!

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 30, 2010 12:47 AM | Report abuse

Based upon the inept quality of your fact challenged PD dissertation, I'm ready to award Mimi the win on the special teams debate sight unseen.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | July 30, 2010 12:51 AM | Report abuse

C'mon with it dude. Don't get shy now! Come with it. I can't wait to battle-what post are you talking about.
Wait are you talking about when I said Malcolm Kelly should play special teams?
Or when I asked the board when was the last time the Skins' blocked a punt?!?!

What are you giving yourself false credit for? Please I'm dying to eat your ass alive on this board-OPEN YOUR MOUTH!!!!

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 30, 2010 12:51 AM | Report abuse

Fact-challenged-what, because I disagreed with your sorry ass?!?

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 30, 2010 12:53 AM | Report abuse

Fact-Phillip Daniels CAN'T PLAY-SIMPLE AS THAT!

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 30, 2010 12:54 AM | Report abuse

LOL you've gone from straight tard to straight tard who foams at the mouth. Two words: Drool cup.

Everybody up here knows you crapped the bed w/ your PD assertions.

Epic Fail... and now yer frothing. Awesome.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | July 30, 2010 1:04 AM | Report abuse

Take a little blue pill armchair before you have an embolism. People talk all sorts of unsubstantiated crap on here all the time. Take your "injured in the 1st month every year" statement. Just relax....breath.

Peace Out all
HAIL!!!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | July 30, 2010 1:04 AM | Report abuse

This is the second time I've called BS on an ArmchairQB post. He is the type of fan who sees the highlights of other teams and assumes that they make highlight plays on the regular. Armchair, what do you mean make a play. If Phillip makes a tackle on a rb for say a 2 yard gain, sure it's not flashy, but isn't effective?

I proved him wrong about his special teams comment yesterday and now I got him on Phillip

In 08, Phillip Daniels missed the whole year.

The other four seasons as a Redskin he has missed only 1 game...so much for your bogus durability claim

He had a four sack game against the cowboys in 05. I dunno why you don't remember that...

There is a differece between being a leader and being a bully. For You to pin the responsibility of being "THE" whole team leader on PD's shoulders is ignorant at best.
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Let me destroy you.
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"He is the type of fan who sees the highlights of other teams and assumes that they make highlight plays on the regular"
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WTF are you talking about? The sentence doesn't make any sense-who is the "they" that you are talking about-teams or players?
Secondly, dude you don't know me anymore than I know you, you have no idea what "type" I am of anything in the Milky Way Galaxy.
Again, I will rip this sentence totally apart, but I need to know what context you are speaking in. So what thread are you talking about-I was all over the net yesterday.
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"Armchair, what do you mean make a play."

A play-a tackle, a forced fumble, a sack-this guy doesn't do it.
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"He had a four sack game against the cowboys in 05. I dunno why you don't remember that..."

Because it was 5 meaningless years ago genius. Who the F cares about 5 years ago? I gave the guy credit for his career with the Bears and Chiefs-that's it-that's all he gets with me. What has he done lately?

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"For You to pin the responsibility of being "THE" whole team leader on PD's shoulders is ignorant at best."

Again, wtf are you talking about. What's IGNORANT is not reading a whole thread and then commenting. Read the thread genius before trying to be smart-I DON'T CARE ABOUT HIS SO-CALLED LEADERSHIP-I CARE THAT HIS LAST MULTI-SACK GAME WAS 5 YRS AGO! You just made my point for me, genius.

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See, that's why I'm eager as holy hell to read what you think you won with yesterday. Just as easily as I destroyed your post tonight is what I would have done yesterday.


Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 30, 2010 1:17 AM | Report abuse

i have a feeling if we dont trade for v jax that we will regret not signing T.O. to a incentive laden deal!!!! just a feeling! kinda weary on the 2nd ILB and the Right side of the oline situations!!

Posted by: warriorking1112 | July 30, 2010 1:18 AM | Report abuse

Hey, can anyone remember the last time we blocked a punt? For a touchdown? What about a blocked field goal? For the life of me,I cannot remember the last time. Sometimes a washout like Kelly hangs around becoming a punt blocking special teamer.

Of course we'll never know, because miss Thang' doesn't play on special teams...yet.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 28, 2010 9:32 PM

All-Time Redskin Great Troy Vincent blocked a Dallas fg that Sean Taylor returned for the game winning field goal posession. Was that in '06 or '07?

Posted by: MimiAnsari | July 28, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

I will just add that our Special Teams Unit has given us a Td 3 years in a row.

I guess you think other teams regularly block punts and field goals too.


Posted by: MimiAnsari | July 30, 2010 1:21 AM | Report abuse

Take a little blue pill armchair before you have an embolism. People talk all sorts of unsubstantiated crap on here all the time. Take your "injured in the 1st month every year" statement. Just relax....breath.

Peace Out all
HAIL!!!

Posted by: scampbell1975 |
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:-P
I needed that.
Right, right obviously it was hyperbole, but Ansari talking calling me out w/o me seeing what he's talking about...Oh HEELLLLL NO!

What I really need is for Ansari to get his tail back on this post. I would be like me declaring victory now-when Ansari has obviously went to sleep or logged off.

But I'll see you again Ansari-be ready.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 30, 2010 1:24 AM | Report abuse

YOU'RE HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let's go buddy.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 30, 2010 1:26 AM | Report abuse

Grrrrrr!!!!

Posted by: freakzilla | July 30, 2010 1:27 AM | Report abuse

"Secondly, dude you don't know me anymore than I know you, you have no idea what "type" I am of anything in the Milky Way Galaxy."

I do know you dummy. You keep talking about making plays, yet you forget the plays Redskins are making.

"Fact-challenged-what, because I disagreed with your sorry ass?!?"

LMAO are you retarded? He called you fact challenged because the facts say Phillip has been very durable even though you disagree by saying he gets injured all the time.lolol You just hate on him because you can't seem to remember him getting a sack. lols

Posted by: MimiAnsari | July 30, 2010 1:29 AM | Report abuse

What about a blocked field goal? For the life of me,I cannot remember the last time.


Ex eagle Troy Vincent blocked a game winning Cowboy FG attempt and ST21, after shaking off a vicious face mask, returned it to set up the Redskins game winner by Nick at Nite Novak. Epic. This video is a nice one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VG26ArRL14

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | July 30, 2010 1:36 AM | Report abuse

All-Time Redskin Great Troy Vincent blocked a Dallas fg that Sean Taylor returned for the game winning field goal posession. Was that in '06 or '07?

Posted by: MimiAnsari | July 28, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

I will just add that our Special Teams Unit has given us a Td 3 years in a row.

I guess you think other teams regularly block punts and field goals too
MimiAnsari
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Are you kidding me???????? Your comments 'call me out' HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA!

Let's do this
First of all, I asked because I truly could not remember the last time. The question was innocent.
Secondly, I did not ask whether the special teams have scored or not.
Lastly, I asked, because with his length and body type, a player such as Kelly would be a natural for the punt blocking team-Albert Lewis, an excellent punt blocker, was 6'2.

One more ,at no point do I compare/contrast the Redskins punt blocking stats with anyone elses. Read and comprehend-I am interested in whether we can get some blocks and who may have the ability to do it. The story was about Kelly another poster mentioned he doesn't play special teams and I replied to that post suggesting the punt block team because I'm referencing Albert Lewis.

So, uh , where did you call me out?

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 30, 2010 1:37 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | July 30, 2010 1:39 AM | Report abuse

Dexter + Darryl Grant '82

Frank Herzog: "TouchDown! Washington Redskins.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQPQzBGgtM0&feature=related

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | July 30, 2010 1:41 AM | Report abuse

Here's the bottom line on Shanahan and Albert. Shanahan wants Albert to respect the team and the the program. Shanahan won't gain Albert's respect by being abusive to him. He'll get it by being tough and fair.

At the end of this, Albert needs to know that Shanahan will have his back. And the way it gets there is simple. Albert earns it.

Shanny's message is this: Albert, I don't trust you until you prove yourself. But you'll get a fair chance, and in the process, you'll get treated like a man.

After the harsh comments from teammates, other players in the league and even retired players, I think Albert will be motivated to find respect again.

There is a win-win in all of this.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | July 30, 2010 1:43 AM | Report abuse

LMAO are you retarded? He called you fact challenged because the facts say Phillip has been very durable even though you disagree by saying he gets injured all the time.lolol You just hate on him because you can't seem to remember him getting a sack. lol
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Retarded-dude I ain't your momma. Holler at that b$$tch

I'm not looking at Phillip Daniels for sacks-obviously he doesn't get em'-what I'm looking to see what this player brought to this team-LAST YEAR.
Not 5 years ago
Not 4 years ago
Not 3 years ago
Not 2 years ago
LAST YEAR
He is injury prone, he's nothing special and I don't care how you take it. YOU ARE WRONG!
I am the ArmchairGM- it's never personal with a player there is no "hate" for Phillip Daniels-his time has passed with the Skins. It's Bruce Smith all over again-a player getting by on his rep. I look cold-eyed at players. So spare me that hater bulls$$t. Phillip Daniels could be the son of Mother Teresa and I wouldn't care. Can he play?


Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 30, 2010 1:48 AM | Report abuse

And the arrogance of you Mimi.
That's what gets me
First, you are going to tell me what type of fan I am.
Then you are going to tell me that I'm looking for highlight plays
Then you are going to tell me that I'm looking for sacks from Daniels

It's like, who the hell are you. You don't know what I look for in players, so don't you think that's arrogant?

..."type of fan"...wtf are you talking about?

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 30, 2010 1:54 AM | Report abuse

One more ,at no point do I compare/contrast the Redskins punt blocking stats with anyone elses. Read and comprehend-I am interested in whether we can get some blocks and who may have the ability to do it. The story was about Kelly another poster mentioned he doesn't play special teams and I replied to that post suggesting the punt block team because I'm referencing Albert Lewis.

So, uh , where did you call me out?

Posted by: ArmchairGM

I always wanted to see the late Manute Bol try to block FGs. If nothing else, I'd bet he'd have gotten into the heads of at least a few kickers. With a modest jump, his fingertips would be about 12 feet in the air.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | July 30, 2010 2:01 AM | Report abuse

Hey Armchair,
Over the last four seasons that Fat Albert has played he has 125 tackles, Thats an average of 31.25 tackles per year.

Over the last four seasons that Phillip Daniels has played he has 109 tackles. thats an average of 27.25 tackles per year.

Thats only 4 tackles per year less than our so called best best player on defense.

Only one defensive lineman who has played here during Daniels tenure has more tackles during that period and that is Andre Carter.

Posted by: kaasmaster | July 30, 2010 2:08 AM | Report abuse

I always wanted to see the late Manute Bol try to block FGs. If nothing else, I'd bet he'd have gotten into the heads of at least a few kickers. With a modest jump, his fingertips would be about 12 feet in the air.
zcezcest1
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Funny you wrote that, I always wanted to see Chris Webber catch passes with those big ol' soft hands. Tragedy that guy never wanted to play in the post.
What about Manute in the Redzone?

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 30, 2010 2:09 AM | Report abuse

G'night all,
My wife is kicking me off the computer.

Posted by: kaasmaster | July 30, 2010 2:20 AM | Report abuse

"You don't know what I look for in players"

who cares...even if you did know what you were looking for...for the life of you , you wouldn't remember it lololololz

"You are severely overrating this player and until players like PD, Andre Carter,"

Oh so Carter gives us 11 overrated sacks and he overratingly led our D-linemen in tackles..and he did this LAST YEAR. haha

Posted by: MimiAnsari | July 30, 2010 2:24 AM | Report abuse

Andre Carter also led our whole defense in forced fumbles, but FootstoolGM thinks Carter is overrated because FootstoolGM is very smart at analyzing football.

sigh..i think you've had enough

Posted by: MimiAnsari | July 30, 2010 2:29 AM | Report abuse

Alright Kaas. Again it's not personal, I don't hate the guy and I get that 1.we platooned d-linemen, 2.Greg Blatche had no business coordinating our defense and 3.shoot, not many of the fellas made a whole bunch of plays period. I'm fair about, I just can't remember PD making so many plays that he should be on the team. Shanahan does like able veterans so if he's able- he'll make the team.
He's strong, in fact, he's supposedly the strongest player on the team. For whatever reason, it's burned into my mind that he gets injured too much and the injuries tend to put him down for a few games. I could be wrong, I could be wrong.

Kaas, you have the tackle stats, another poster had the games played stats, but when I think of Phillip Daniels I think of a solid D-lineman with the Chiefs and Bears, who signed with us got injured and was gone for an extended period of time, talked the following preseason about how excited he was to get back healthy and then got injured again for a year. I'm sure I have it out of sequence, but that's what I remember about PD.
I will say this-if no one can play him off the team, so be it.
I sure hope a young DE ends his tenure here,is Rob Thomas still on the team? Chris Wilson? Do we have any young DEs?

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 30, 2010 2:37 AM | Report abuse

@Mimi-"Who cares"-

Then wtf are you trying to psychoanalyze, huh, genius. I told you glib answers won't work with me. Your dumb ass started talking about types.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 30, 2010 2:40 AM | Report abuse

Andre Carter had a good year in sacks last year when his job was in jeopardy by Orakpo. Otherwise, his career has been nondescript. He flopped at weakside LB with 49ers so they made him an undersized weakside end. If you think Andre Carter is all that, why did the Redskins draft his replacement. The stats bear out that in all of the games with the Skins-Carter has less sacks than Demarcus Ware had in a 3 year period for the Cowboys.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 30, 2010 2:44 AM | Report abuse

Oh so Carter gives us 11 overrated sacks and he overratingly led our D-linemen in tackles..and he did this LAST YEAR.
Mimi
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Shouldn't we get that every year from Carter? Why just last year when he was looking over his shoulder?

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 30, 2010 2:48 AM | Report abuse


Hey Ansari-Quoting stats doesn't mean you know a damn thing about the sport. All it means is you know how to google.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 30, 2010 2:50 AM | Report abuse

And what type of name is Mimi-What do you do for a living suck dixx? Seriously, what's up with your gay azz name?

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 30, 2010 2:56 AM | Report abuse

"You don't know what I look for in players,"

"what I'm looking to see what this player brought to this team-LAST YEAR.
Not 5 years ago
Not 4 years ago
Not 3 years ago
Not 2 years ago
LAST YEAR"

"Shouldn't we get that every year from Carter? Why just last year when he was looking over his shoulder?"

hey footstool, remember..you said you only care about LAST YEAR. so don't dwell on what Carter gave us 2,3,4 years ago. You made your bed now go to sleep..I command you. and don't forget to brush your teeth.

Posted by: MimiAnsari | July 30, 2010 2:58 AM | Report abuse

Oh so Carter gives us 11 overrated sacks and he overratingly led our D-linemen in tackles..and he did this LAST YEAR. haha
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Yeah, and we were still 4-12, so who cares.
See, that's the only stat that matters 4-12. Give me a game in which Carter or Daniels won the game for us with their playmaking ability.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 30, 2010 3:00 AM | Report abuse

@Diesel44:

'bat-shack crazy'; I'm still laughing at that.

Posted by: pdfordiii | July 30, 2010 3:10 AM | Report abuse

Hey,Dumbass
I told you glib comments won't work. You are so busy trying to be a smart-ass, you don't read.

My comment you pasted had two questions
"Shouldn't we get that every year from Carter?
Why just last year when he was looking over his shoulder?"
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You had your smart-mouth comment about Carter being overrated or so you thought.

I challenged you to explain why he doesn't do this regularly. If you had a brain, you could comprehend that the 1st sentence was for ANY year not just last year. It could be this year or a future one now couldn't it?

Amazing that it takes you ten minutes or so to respond. Why don't you finish up with your johns and give your pimp the money before coming on here with dumb posts. Now, you're trying to use my posts to make your point,but you can't read. Tragic.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 30, 2010 3:11 AM | Report abuse

"This is the second time I've called BS on an ArmchairQB post."`
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Now you see why I was eager-You didn't "call me out on EITHER post" W T F were you smoking when you wrote calling me out.

You don't know shyyyt about football.
You can't read.
You don't even know how to make a cogent argument.
You have the nerve to be on here quoting stats as a display of knowledge, please.


Oh and I heard from your moms she wrote this poem for you
'Roses are red'
'Violets are blue'
'I'm a retard'
'And so is my child'

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 30, 2010 3:19 AM | Report abuse

Hey Ms.Mimi-
I see you've gone quiet on me again, huh?

"Thinking is hard for a retard"

See, your moms is at it again.Ms.Mimi.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 30, 2010 3:23 AM | Report abuse

Hey Ms.Mimi-Uhhh, hello?

Oh well, I've run you off.
Or you have a john right now. Well, wipe your face when you're finished.

G'night fellas. S.T.N.G. will be on in 30 minutes.

...."calling me out on b/s"... a likely story...

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 30, 2010 3:35 AM | Report abuse

On a serious note- MimiAnsari....thanks.
I was wondering when someone on here was going to try me. I'm just like everyone else-where the Redskins are concerned-I think I know everything & you can't tell me nothin'!

We'll argue again, I'm sure. Later, dude.

Posted by: ArmchairGM | July 30, 2010 3:39 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: zcezcest1 | July 30, 2010 4:05 AM | Report abuse

Wow...fast and furious on here last night. Both with the posts from the previously MIA RI staff, and the hatred between ArmchairGM and just about everyone else...

First of all, PD is a low cost/low risk veteran presence. Solid locker room guy who's probably best suited to playing DE in a 3-4 (one could make the case that we've probably been playing him out of position for years). It's not a "waste of time" to have him here if A) he's relatively productive and B) he's not taking snaps away from a young prospect that has starting potential. Since neither is true, he's completely worth keeping.

Secondly, folks shouldn't read into Galloway rolling with the first team for the first day of camp. This is nothing more than a shot across the bow for Devin Thomas to get his arse in gear and EARN that starting spot. Some up here b*tch that Jason Campbell had his starting job handed to him...well, here ya go. Here's a young guy having to earn it.

So no worries. It's the first day of camp. If AH is still failing conditioning tests and Galloway is still starting heading into the first preseason game, THEN it's time to worry...

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 30, 2010 5:44 AM | Report abuse

We're about a week away from seeing our first Hog go into the HoF...here's a look at Russ Grimm on NFL.com:

http://www.nfl.com/halloffame/story/09000d5d8195cb27/article/grimm-was-reluctant-hog-at-first-but-he-became-a-bull?module=HP_cp2

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 30, 2010 6:17 AM | Report abuse

I gotta 'raise your hand' moment:

My 20 year old University of Fla. future doctor daughter asked me the other day:

"Daddy, did you smoke weed back in the '80s?"

I paused, remembered separatng stems and seeds on an old Led Zep album cover the winter of 1987, and said:

"No," lying. "I never smoked pot in college."

"But after 20 plus years of marriage to mrsmoe, I honestly have to do it everyday now that I've graduated."

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 29, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Word.

Posted by: DESkinzFan1 | July 30, 2010 6:56 AM | Report abuse

Oh come on, it's easy to know what to read into this, "Danger - Will Robinson - Danger."

Posted by: truke | July 30, 2010 7:11 AM | Report abuse

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