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'The Jasons' Work through the Bye

It may be bye week, but "The Jasons" is not on hiatus. The new episode is airing all weekend on Comcast SportsNet and, of course, up here.

By Cindy Boren  |  November 8, 2008; 9:51 AM ET
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A Saturday post? Is this a FIRST?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 8, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

'The Jasons' Work through the Bye
I'm crying for ya, Jason and Jasno.

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | November 8, 2008 10:01 AM | Report abuse

You're killing me, talent. I often do Saturday posts!
So, who do you cut to make room for Hall: Kelly (to IR), Tryon, Jackson, Green...someone mentioned Shaun Alexander...?

Posted by: CindyBoren | November 8, 2008 10:06 AM | Report abuse

"often" meaning, like, maybe a half-dozen times. :)

Posted by: CindyBoren | November 8, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

...Alexander goes...DHall = 23 & Reed gets #37 back...

Posted by: bobeaston | November 8, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse


How about we cut Hall, act like this never happened, call it a $498K mistake?

The more I think about this, the more I don't like it. It's low risk in terms of salary cap and no draft picks, but high risk if he really is a locker room issue/me-first guy. Prove me wrong, Deangelo.

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | November 8, 2008 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Green at least got on the field and made some plays, so I don't see why he'd be the guy to cut.

P.S. Notorious_LMG, did you see this article?

"There's been some things that have been going on, some shakeups, that I haven't agreed with," Asomugha said. "Like I said, I'm not allowed to speak on it because we're just supposed to shut up and play. But you ask me if I agree with it? I don't agree with it."

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | November 8, 2008 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Will Deangelo Hall wear #21? He better not!! I can't imagine anyone else wearing that number. That number only looks good on ONE person...

Posted by: rachel216 | November 8, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

No CHANCE he wears 21. Can't believe you'd even ask that.

Thunder, thanks for the knowledge. I am just bracing for the worst. I realize the, to paraphrase our boy Hubbie Brown, "tremendous upside"

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | November 8, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Green at least got on the field and made some plays, so I don't see why he'd be the guy to cut.

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | November 8, 2008 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Green did get in and make some good plays. But with Springs coming back this week, we have to choose one of our DB's to be released. I think Green would be available in a couple of weeks if we did need to resign him.

This week, against the Girls, I would use SS to cover TO, since he has done such a great job of that the last few times. But I would seriously consider moving SS to safety. That way we would have 3...SS, LL and Horton. And use a rotation to CR, Smoooot, and DAH at corner/nickel. I might try to rest Smoot for a game or two to let his groin rest.

Is there any secondary in the league that could compare across the board to those six? Anyone familiar with the depth of the Ravens secondary, even assuming McAlister was healthy?

Posted by: frediefritz | November 8, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

McAlister is gone.,0,853253.story

Another reason this was a good signing for the Skins.

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | November 8, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

AN offense that can't score, top 5 defense, and the team goes out to get a cornerback that will screw the chemistry? Way to go Danny Boy and Vinnie!

Posted by: Leeguru | November 8, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

First, I don't see why S. Alexander wouldn't be the one cut here, he is already the "odd man out" in the back field, IF Betts is back.

If Betts isn't back, then it would have to be Tryon or Torrence, Green offers the veteran backup that Blache wants available, so I doubt he would go at this point. Even if Kelly goes to IR, they're gonna want to bring up a wide out to get on the roster, so his spot is already taken one way or the other.

This also describes Tryon. Thanks for posting the Bucky Brooks link. That's encouraging.

I hadn't thought about the Mora connection. I wonder if Vinny or Zorn called Mora before they made the transaction?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 8, 2008 9:15 AM | Report abuse

It hadn't occured to me either until I read that piece. You know dam well that Zorn called Mora for his input, but I'm not sure how real value there was in that, but who knows.

I think the VETS in the locker room won't have any trouble with him. And he stated very plainly that he wants this to end up long term, so I really think he'll be on his best behavior, and try to "fit in" with this group of high character guys.

Posted by: craig2 | November 8, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

This also describes Tryon. Thanks for posting the Bucky Brooks link. That's encouraging.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 8, 2008 9:15 AM | Report abuse

I had intended to respond to this too: I agree completely, and I have been saying for over a month that I thought Tryon should have been put on Punt Returns. I just think that's a trust issue, rookie and all.

Maybe Hall can provide them(Zorn and Smith) with some confidence in that regard.

Posted by: craig2 | November 8, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Here are the top 10 teams in passing defense, determined by yards per game:
Steelers, Gints, Colts, Ravens, Packers, Bucs, Skins, Iggles, Bungles, Girls.

Stillers, Gints, Iggles & Girls lead the league in sacks. They are highly rated due to their front 4. I suspect the Bungles are so highly rated because everyone can run on them, so why pass?

That leaves Colts, Ravens, Packers, & Bucs. I probably should give honorable mention to Carolina & Titans.

Colts CB's:Hayden, Jackson, Hughes, Jennings & Graham.
Colts safeties: Sanders, Bethea, Giordano, Bullitt, Silva.
Colts Sanders is all-pro, but I'm not that familiar with the others.

Ravens CB's:McAllister(IR), Walker, Rolle, Ivy, Washington.
Safeties: Reed, Landry,Leonhard, Nakamura, Zbikowski.
Reed all-pro, Rolle highly-rated, McAllister fading.

GB CB's:Woodson,Harris,Blackmon,Lee, Williams, Bush,
Safeties:Bigby, Collins, Rouse, Peprah.
Woodson & Harris are highly rated, not familiar with others

Bucs CB's: Buchanon, Barbor, Mack,Talib
Safeties:Philips, Jackson, Piscitelli, Allen.
Buchanon & Ronde Barber are highly rated, not familiar with others.

Conclusions: Reed may make the Ravens secondary slightly better, but I would stack our top six against any of these defenses.

Posted by: frediefritz | November 8, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Adam Schefter
Hall chose Redskins over Steelers, Patriots
Posted: Adam Schefter | Adam Schefter | Tags: DeAngelo Hall, Washington Redskins

What’s just as notable as the team cornerback DeAngelo Hall chose are the ones he didn’t.

Hall heard from Patriots coach Bill Belichick and Steelers coach Mike Tomlin, each of whom tried to persuade the former Raiders cornerback to sign with his respective team.

(Random question: If Hall was such a bad influence, why did two of the most respected defensive-minded head coaches in the game pursue him the way they did?)

Ultimately, the Redskins offered something no other team could: the chance to play in his backyard.

Hall is from Virginia and played college football at Virginia Tech. The Redskins asked Hall, “Why’d you pick Virginia Tech when you could have gone to any school in the country?”

And Hall told them because he wanted to be close to home. Now, after agreeing to a one-year, pro-rated $1 million deal with the Redskins that will pay him $492,000 for finishing the season in Washington, Hall will be close to home.

He is scheduled to arrive in Washington on Friday night, undergo a physical then and sign his contract.

The Redskins also promised Hall they would not slap their franchise tag on him after this season but, with their tight salary-cap situation in 2009, they could not afford to do that anyway. Still, the two sides already have discussed the possibility of signing a long-term agreement and if the engagement works out, the marriage always could be consummated.

But for now, the Redskins are happy to have Hall to help them make their playoff push.

Posted by: TWISI | November 8, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

I am all for this signing. Hall should fill in nicely down the stretch if any of our first three CBs get hurt. Plus the possibility of Hall returning punts and perhaps upgrading ST would be welcome.

Having said that, we may need the strong locker room leadership...

Posted by Mike Florio on November 8, 2008, 11:24 a.m. EST

At halftime of last week’s game between the Falcons and the Raiders, former Falcons (and also former Raiders but now current Redskins) cornerback DeAngelo Hall waited for a member of the Falcons.

For the purposes of fighting him.

Falcons linebacker Keith Brooking recently mentioned the incident during a spot with Buck and Kincade on 680 The Fan in Atlanta. Here’s what Brooking said, without naming the former teammate in question.

“One of our ex-players, sitting there in the tunnel, waiting on us to come through the halftime to pick a fight with one of my teammates,” Brooking said. “I’m just sitting there as I’m going to the locker room thinking, ‘Geez, man, I mean, I’m so glad we’re removed from all that mess.’ You know, because of the camaraderie that we have as a team from a players standpoint, the relationships we’ve developed with our coaches. I mean, it’s a great working relationship.”

We don’t know which player Hall wanted to thump (or, as the case may be, get thumped by) or why he wanted to attempt some thumping, but it’s a sign that Hall has a long way to go before he’ll persuade the Redskins to give him a long-term deal.

Then again, maybe he is changing. Consider this quote from a Friday appearance on Sirius NFL Radio with Bruce Murray and Carl Banks. When asked how bad things are in Oakland, Hall said this: “I’m still a firm believer in they’re really not that bad. It was definitely unfortunate the way things worked out for me but I still don’t think it’s a bad place. I still think they’re going to somehow get it turned around. I’ve got a lot of respect for Al Davis. He talked to me like a man, told me I was the last one to come so I’m the first one to go. And I respect that. Gave me the opportunity to go where I wanted to go and that’s all I can ask for.”

Posted by: Curzon417 | November 8, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

beep beep it's leigh torrence

Posted by: CindyBoren | November 8, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

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