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The morning buzz: Assessing the assistants

Jason Reid, Rick Maese and Brian Mitchell discuss the new look of the Redskins' coaching staff with Comcast's Ivan Carter on "Washington Post Live."

What's your take?

One of the assistant positions that remains open is that of special teams coach. In the video above, the guys discuss Danny Smith and whether he'll have a spot on Mike Shanahan's staff. Tell us what you think.


Redskins say, 'The future is now'

At the D.C. Sports Bog, Dan Steinberg has more on the Redskins' "season-ticket enhancements."

Players anticipate lockout

NFL players, testifying before a congressional subcommittee hearing Wednesday, say they are preparing to be locked out by owners in 2011, Mark Maske reports.

By Cindy Boren  |  January 21, 2010; 9:25 AM ET
 
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Interesting conversation. One name comes to mind. Aaron Kampmen total beast in a 4-3
but odd man out in a 3-4. I believe if carter can make the transition great, more the better. if not then ok. GB was still a top ranked defense without kampman. But I would like to have carter in the mix.

Posted by: sthai75 | January 21, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Exactly, the 3-4 best suits our best young player, plus it makes Gholston, Daniels, Alexander, even Wynn more than serviceable. They are best as stop the run eat blockers anyway and as ends in the 3-4 that's what they are expected to do. Albert at NT backed up by Monte or maybe you sign a fat boy. The switch basically is good for everyone but Carter, so oh well if he doesn't like it. If he was 25 maybe you think twice but he isn't, IMO as long as Albert is on board with the decision you make the switch and don't look back.

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 21, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 21, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

No, No, No

Time to move on. Sorry, Danny, you are a players fav and maybe you got kinda screwed with the FO and coaching changes, but... we need a change of scenery at a phase of the game which has underperformed for your entire tenure.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 21, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

If we do go to the 3-4 then we should get G. Mckoy. Suh will be gone but if you had a line with that big boy, AHay and Carter. With C Wilson and Osackpo coming of the edges it could be pretty epic. You would have to double both Mckoy and AH, no way around it.
With that being said draft o-line, no more qb talk till later rounds.

Posted by: Stu27 | January 21, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Based on the stuff that's been posted up here, Smith is widely regarded around the league as one of the best at his job. If Shanahan likes him then, yeah, we can't do any better.

Posted by: League-Source | January 21, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Our special teams was a weak link last year.

Apart from Hunter Smith pulling off a couple nice trick plays (and one gargantuan failure), our punt return game was a disaster, and our place-kicker got cut.

I don't think our coverage unit was anything to write home about.

Posted by: p1funk | January 21, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

It seems to be based on your previous post.

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 21, 2010 9:44 AM

My previous post said "you can't replace everyone on the team with someone better in one offseason."

You probably did not understand that because you responded with your typical non sequitur, "You don't make a scheme decision based on the career year of one player who will be out of football in 3 years anyway." I'm not sure who, up here has ever advocated the opposite, but thanks for setting us straight on that.

Posted by: League-Source | January 21, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

We were talking about Carter, I said you make the switch whether he makes the transition or not, you said you can't replace everyone.....so we were talking about one guy.....who else were you discussing in your mind that you failed to mention in the need to replace that would have given me the heads up that we were talking about more than one guy....

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 21, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

If we do go to the 3-4 then we should get G. Mckoy. Suh will be gone but if you had a line with that big boy, AHay and Carter. With C Wilson and Osackpo coming of the edges it could be pretty epic. You would have to double both Mckoy and AH, no way around it.
With that being said draft o-line, no more qb talk till later rounds.

Posted by: Stu27 | January 21, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse


We've got the personnel to field a 3-4 line.

Haynesworth, Montgomery, Daniels/Alexander

The 3-4 question, I think, has more to do with whether we've got the linebackers to pull it off.

Posted by: p1funk | January 21, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

I enjoyed seeing Danny yelling at Zorn on the sidelines after Zorn made a bonehead game decision.. (cant remember which one).

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 21, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

We've got the personnel to field a 3-4 line.

Haynesworth, Montgomery, Daniels/Alexander

The 3-4 question, I think, has more to do with whether we've got the linebackers to pull it off.

Posted by: p1funk | January 21, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Don't forget Gholston, and yes, we don't need anything on the dline in the switch. IMO we need to sign or draft a MLB and at least one more OLB if we make the switch.

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 21, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

I enjoyed seeing Danny yelling at Zorn on the sidelines after Zorn made a bonehead game decision.. (cant remember which one).

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 21, 2010 9:59 AM

Don't think that you will see him yelling at Shanahan on the sidelines next year. And I don't think you'll see him yelling at ARE, either.

Posted by: League-Source | January 21, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Washington RedskinsRecord: 4-12
Sam Bradford*, QB, Oklahoma
Mike Shanahan and the Redskins can get a quarterback here who might have been the top player taken had he opted to come out last year. The Redskins need to find their franchise quarterback, and when healthy, Bradford is an exceptionally accurate passer with an underrated arm. Shanahan also hit on his last QB selection when he drafted Jay Cutler in Denver.
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Oh no Kiper!!! Say it ain't so!!! All together... Okung! Okung! Okung!

Posted by: hbu_dog | January 21, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

found it.. time clock management (or lack thereof).
Interesting, at the end of the write up, you could see the players had much more respect for Dan than Zorn.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2009/09/why_danny_smith_was_yelling_at.html

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I enjoyed seeing Danny yelling at Zorn on the sidelines after Zorn made a bonehead game decision.. (cant remember which one).

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 21, 2010 9:59 AM

Don't think that you will see him yelling at Shanahan on the sidelines next year. And I don't think you'll see him yelling at ARE, either.

Posted by: League-Source | January 21, 2010 10:01 AM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 21, 2010 10:07 AM | Report abuse

great.. lets get a QB with the 4th overall pick of the Draft that a few months ago probably couldnt brush his teeth with his TWICE dislocated throwing arm.. Brilliant.
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Washington RedskinsRecord: 4-12
Sam Bradford*, QB, Oklahoma
Mike Shanahan and the Redskins can get a quarterback here who might have been the top player taken had he opted to come out last year. The Redskins need to find their franchise quarterback, and when healthy, Bradford is an exceptionally accurate passer with an underrated arm. Shanahan also hit on his last QB selection when he drafted Jay Cutler in Denver.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Oh no Kiper!!! Say it ain't so!!! All together... Okung! Okung! Okung!

Posted by: hbu_dog | January 21, 2010 10:04 AM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 21, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Washington RedskinsRecord: 4-12
Sam Bradford*, QB, Oklahoma
Mike Shanahan and the Redskins can get a quarterback here who might have been the top player taken had he opted to come out last year. The Redskins need to find their franchise quarterback, and when healthy, Bradford is an exceptionally accurate passer with an underrated arm. Shanahan also hit on his last QB selection when he drafted Jay Cutler in Denver.
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Oh no Kiper!!! Say it ain't so!!! All together... Okung! Okung! Okung!

Posted by: hbu_dog | January 21, 2010 10:04 AM

This is good. Kiper saying it IS so means IT ISN'T SO. Guy has a TERRIBLE record projecting the draft. He's as bad as his hair.

Posted by: League-Source | January 21, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

We've got the personnel to field a 3-4 line.

Haynesworth, Montgomery, Daniels/Alexander

The 3-4 question, I think, has more to do with whether we've got the linebackers to pull it off.

Posted by: p1funk | January 21, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Monty will need to step his game up by a wide margin. He's not a good DT in a 4-3 scheme easily getting blown back even with his size. Playing him at NT would be a huge mistake if the light doesn't come on for him soon. I look for the Skins to get a NT or two during this off-season.

Posted by: TWISI | January 21, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

The 3-4 question, I think, has more to do with whether we've got the linebackers to pull it off.

Posted by: p1funk | January 21, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse


UHHHHHHH...... ORAKPO, also Chris Wilson. I love how people say London will suffer in this formation. Show me one second where Fletch has struggled to grasp anything football related. If you think he cannot work in this scheme then you are grossly underestimating one of if not the best LBs in the league the past decade. Also Rocky has the speed versatility and tackling ability to thrive in a speed based 3-4 Lb system. Seems we got it covered.

Posted by: Stu27 | January 21, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Washington RedskinsRecord: 4-12
Sam Bradford*, QB, Oklahoma
Mike Shanahan and the Redskins can get a quarterback here who might have been the top player taken had he opted to come out last year. The Redskins need to find their franchise quarterback, and when healthy, Bradford is an exceptionally accurate passer with an underrated arm. Shanahan also hit on his last QB selection when he drafted Jay Cutler in Denver.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Oh no Kiper!!! Say it ain't so!!! All together... Okung! Okung! Okung!

Posted by: hbu_dog | January 21, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse


Gotta love Mel Kiper's backasswards reasoning:

Because Bradford may have been a top QB pick last year (in a weak QB draft, before shoulder surgery), he'd be a great #4 pick this year.

Posted by: p1funk | January 21, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Because Bradford may have been a top QB pick last year (in a weak QB draft, before shoulder surgery), he'd be a great #4 pick this year.


Posted by: p1funk | January 21, 2010 10:11 AM

Good point, funk, and the second part is that "Because Shanahan did well picking Cutler, he's sure to do well taking a different QB, Bradford."

Posted by: League-Source | January 21, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

any labor geniuses out there?
If the players are locked out in 2011, are not the owners screwing themselves with the probable loss of their anti-trust exemption? Essentially laying off an "exclusive" labor force (1900 NFL players) which has no where to play (work)?

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | January 21, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Gotta love Mel Kiper's backasswards reasoning:

Because Bradford may have been a top QB pick last year (in a weak QB draft, before shoulder surgery), he'd be a great #4 pick this year.

Posted by: p1funk | January 21, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Agreed, and he comes from the pass happy shotgun 90% of the time system at Oklahoma and from the no defense big 12. IMO IF Shanny goes QB at #4 it'll be Clausen. His stats last year were incredible considering the crap line, zero running game, and lack of top end weapons. (sound like any place we know?)

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 21, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

I'd take Jake Locker, Ryan Mallet, Pat Devlin, and Christian Ponder over anybody in this year's draft not named Jimmy Clausen. If Okung, Suh, and Berry were gone and I couldn't trade back then I'd take Clausen. Outside of that why not wait until next year? How good are we really going to be? I doubt we'll be good enough to miss out on Locker, Mallet, Devlin, and Ponder.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 21, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

F Drafting a QB...get a tackle, let's build the line.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

I was going to post something topical...

..but this just made my day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skCV2L0c6K0

I don't know what it is. But I can't stop laughing.

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 21, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

QB talk again! Why are we discussing this? I believe there is a guy with an arm like Elway, the scrambling ability of Steve Young and the nerves of Joe Montana: Colt Brennan! And he is on our team.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 20, 2010 5:32 PM


The nerves of Joe Montana?!

Did he prove that when he reported to the training room every day for physical therapy, or when he bravely sat down to have a map of Hawaii stained into his freshly Cloroxed hair?

Posted by: MColeman51 | January 21, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

yeh - the 'lockout' concept doesn't make any sense to me. I could see a 'walkout..'.. that makes sense.. kinda.

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 21, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

I'd take Jake Locker, Ryan Mallet, Pat Devlin, and Christian Ponder over anybody in this year's draft not named Jimmy Clausen. If Okung, Suh, and Berry were gone and I couldn't trade back then I'd take Clausen. Outside of that why not wait until next year? How good are we really going to be? I doubt we'll be good enough to miss out on Locker, Mallet, Devlin, and Ponder.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 21, 2010 10:21 AM

Next year we'll be at least good enough to be picking middle of the pack -- #16. And, look what happened to Bradford this year. These four guys may all be injured. Bird in the hand, etc. ... So, if Clausen's there he might be a good pick.

Posted by: League-Source | January 21, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

I kind of hope we get a new Special Teams coach, I have grown tired of our ST doing nothing.

I wonder if we will try the waters on any of the Place Kickers out there this year...S. Graham will probably be available, as well as Nugent, Reed and others.

Gano does have a strong leg for kick offs.

Posted by: mhartz1 | January 21, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

UHHHHHHH...... ORAKPO, also Chris Wilson. I love how people say London will suffer in this formation. Show me one second where Fletch has struggled to grasp anything football related. If you think he cannot work in this scheme then you are grossly underestimating one of if not the best LBs in the league the past decade. Also Rocky has the speed versatility and tackling ability to thrive in a speed based 3-4 Lb system. Seems we got it covered.

Posted by: Stu27

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 21, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

F Drafting a QB...get a tackle, let's build the line.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2010 10:23 AM

You do realize there is more than JUST the 1st round of the draft, don't you?

Do any of youse?

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

IMO IF Shanny goes QB at #4 it'll be Clausen. His stats last year were incredible considering the crap line, zero running game, and lack of top end weapons. (sound like any place we know?)

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 21, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse


He was also tutored by an NFL offensive coordinator in a pro-style offense.

I don't want a QB this year at #4, but I'd certainly take Clausen over any of the others.

Posted by: p1funk | January 21, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

sorry about that.

I think Orakpo is much better suited on the line than as a LB. Fletch is as good as you get, but he's old, losing a step in the offseason is not unusual for older players. Rocky can't cover his shadow, plus many of our LB's are smallish. I read a post earlier addressing a LB with size we added last year. Can't remember his name...

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | January 21, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

This may be new news, maybe I just somehow never noticed.
The NFL.Com site has an O-Line stat now on their pages for teams.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&statisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&conference=ALL&role=TM&season=2009&seasonType=REG

So people know
The skins ranked 7th in QB hits with 95 hits, 5th in sacks with 46.

They break down teams run ability going left right and center including a newish ranking:

Rush Pwr = Percentage of rushes on 3rd or 4th down with 2 or fewer yards to go that achieved a first down or TD. Also includes rushes on 1st-and-goal and 2nd-and-goal from the opponent's 2-yard line or closer.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 21, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

You do realize there is more than JUST the 1st round of the draft, don't you?

Do any of youse?

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 10:30 AM

Huh? Is this because it's an uncapped year that they're going to have more than one round? Man, I am siced to have a multi-round draft! Woo-hoo! Let's discuss who we should take in one of those other rounds. And, do you think there will be any linemen available in the other rounds? Blows my mind.

Posted by: League-Source | January 21, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Wow the sight also ranks experience and stuff like that.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 21, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Next year we'll be at least good enough to be picking middle of the pack -- #16. And, look what happened to Bradford this year. These four guys may all be injured. Bird in the hand, etc. ... So, if Clausen's there he might be a good pick.

Posted by: League-Source | January 21, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

I'm warming up to Clausen but only if no Okung, Suh, Berry or trade down is available. I don't even like Claussen that much but we have to realize that Collins is gone soon and Colt has shown nothing. Even if we keep JC as the starter(I hope we do) we will still need a quality backup.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | January 21, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

the 'lockout' concept doesn't make any sense to me. I could see a 'walkout..'.. that makes sense.. kinda.

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 21, 2010 10:26 AM

The owners will be locking the players out literaly from team facilities. The players want to play and get paid. The owners will only let them play if they can get some concessions.

The players ain't walking out like the 80s. It's the owners locking them out....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

I think the team has to get an offensive tackle with their first pick. If they see a QB they like in the second round, then it wouldn't be a horrible move to jump on it - especially if they are able to add a few pieces to the offensive line in free agency. I think re-signing Levi Jones and Casey Rabach economically would be a good insurance policy if they have even an inkling of doing something like this. No matter what draft strategy they use, they must always be thinking about improving the offensive line. It was too much of a weakness to ignore...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 21, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

You do realize there is more than JUST the 1st round of the draft, don't you?

Do any of youse?

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

THANK YOU! its like people here have Stockholm syndrome from the Vinny years. If Shanny/Allen decide to draft Clausen at #4 there is no way in H E double hockey sticks they put him behind the same or similar line we had last year. If they grab him at #4 you can be sure they will draft a tackle in the 2nd, sign some olineman, and maybe trade for some too. Its no longer a QB and nothing else situation. Unlike Vinny its not your 1st guy, a bunch of mid rounders chosen for god knows why since they don't fit any needs who'll all be cut and perhaps a 7th round gem.

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 21, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Beep Beep

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 21, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Sherman Smith will interview with Seahawks
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 21, 2010 10:32 AM ET
Sherman Smith may soon join Jerry Gray as former Redskins coaches that go to work for the Seahawks.

Danny O'Neil of the Seattle Times reports that Smith will be in Seattle Thursday for an interview for the team's vacant running backs coach position. Smith was Jim Zorn's offensive coordinator in Washington.

Pete Carroll's first staff is almost complete. The latest hires include Jedd Fisch as quarterbacks coach, Pat McPherson with tight ends, Gray in the secondary, Brian Schneider for special teams, and Ken Norton Jr. with the linebackers.

It seems like a long time ago that Norton and Seth Joyner were doing battle as the original analysts with Rich Eisen on NFL Network. I must have been one of roughly sixteen people watching back then.

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 21, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

IMO IF Shanny goes QB at #4 it'll be Clausen. His stats last year were incredible considering the crap line, zero running game, and lack of top end weapons. (sound like any place we know?)

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 21, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse


He was also tutored by an NFL offensive coordinator in a pro-style offense.

I don't want a QB this year at #4, but I'd certainly take Clausen over any of the others.

Posted by: p1funk | January 21, 2010 10:31 AM


I know I am known as a Clausen hater. But it's not because I don't like him. It's because of his play on the field.

Did anyone watch Notre Dame even play this year???????????? Wow! And you still want THIS GUY????

COme ON MAN!! Just because he was able to make the score semi-close at the end means diddly-poo. That's what JC17 was doing this year!

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

the 'lockout' concept doesn't make any sense to me. I could see a 'walkout..'.. that makes sense.. kinda.

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 21, 2010 10:26 AM

The owners will be locking the players out literaly from team facilities. The players want to play and get paid. The owners will only let them play if they can get some concessions.

The players ain't walking out like the 80s. It's the owners locking them out....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 21, 2010 10:37 AM
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I was reading a little about it, and I think the owners got screwed in the last negotiation. They are digging in their heels and want some cuts. The players association knows they have a good deal and are perfectly willing to extend the current contract. I think a fifty-fifty split of revenues would be perfect. Of course, right now, they cannot even agree on what revenues are...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 21, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

it's somewhat amusing to me that the discussion both inside and outside the organization is about the defensive alignment and players to keep and acquire, when in fact the OFFENSE has been THE problem here for much of the past decade.

Three weeks ago they posted a stat that only the Cleveland Browns and Detroit Lions scored fewer points than the Redskins in the last 10 years.

With that lack of productivity on offense, one would think that almost ALL available resources both financial for FA and draft picks would go toward rebuilding that unit first and foremost.

People talk about having Haynesworth and Fletcher 'adapt' to a new scheme.

Hello!

We at least have a pro bowl caliber DT and MLB.

What we don't have is a left tackle.

What we don't have is a right tackle.

What we don't have is a right guard.

What we don't have is a game-changing running back.

Posted by: leopard09 | January 21, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

This may be new news, maybe I just somehow never noticed.
The NFL.Com site has an O-Line stat now on their pages for teams.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&statisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&conference=ALL&role=TM&season=2009&seasonType=REG

So people know
The skins ranked 7th in QB hits with 95 hits, 5th in sacks with 46.

They break down teams run ability going left right and center including a newish ranking:

Rush Pwr = Percentage of rushes on 3rd or 4th down with 2 or fewer yards to go that achieved a first down or TD. Also includes rushes on 1st-and-goal and 2nd-and-goal from the opponent's 2-yard line or closer.


Posted by: alex35332 | January 21, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse
That's great info, alex. Thanks. It clearly shows what we already knew. When you look at the power rushing stats, we ranked 15 in short yardage pickups on left and center, but right side ranked 31st.

Also, in # of rushes for negative yards, we ranked 25th on runs left, 28th up center, and 29th on runs to right.

And on average yards per attempt, we were 29th. By reducing the negative yds, we can substantially improve yds per attempt.

Clearly, OL is where we need to concentrate our rebuilding next year.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 21, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

B. Mithcell just live LaVare is a HATER!! He was a helluva Redksin but they both are using the platforms they have for HATERATION and it is definitely not worth it!! Move On if you don't like MY team!!

Posted by: nwtay | January 21, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Agreed, and he comes from the pass happy shotgun 90% of the time system at Oklahoma and from the no defense big 12. IMO IF Shanny goes QB at #4 it'll be Clausen. His stats last year were incredible considering the crap line, zero running game, and lack of top end weapons. (sound like any place we know?)
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No Clausen!, sure he was able to throw w/ no line, but:
1) That was against college defenses, people are faster and stronger in the pros.
2) It wasn't like he was head and shoulders above all the other QBs in the NCAA. He's far behind Tebow in collegiate play and Tebow isn't a pro QB.
3) He's a Notre Dame QB, which means a guaranteed bust.
4) Did I mention he played at Notre Dame.

Bottom line, skins need to stay away from QBs in this draft or at the very least in the early rounds, and build up their line on both sides, throw in a couple DBs, a RB, and call it a weekend.

Posted by: clark202 | January 21, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

The skins just need to draft o-lineman in the 1st and 2nd round No QB. Lets get that line younger and more athletic stop drafting the 340 pound unmovable mountain and get that 300-315 pound guy that likes to play basketball and can get downfield. Give Campbell the 3 year deal if he still is inconsistent than draft a QB next year. Make him the QB then trade or release Campbell won't cost you much on a 3 year deal. 3-4 or 4-3 I don't care. I want to see Rak with tons of opportunites for more sacks and causing Turnovers. Send him after the QB like D-Ware of the cowgirls. Move back in the first or second round and pick up the 3rd rounder we lost to the supplemental draft for Jarmon also get him on the field.

Posted by: Hackersk | January 21, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

The skins just need to draft o-lineman in the 1st and 2nd round No QB. Lets get that line younger and more athletic stop drafting the 340 pound unmovable mountain and get that 300-315 pound guy that likes to play basketball and can get downfield. Give Campbell the 3 year deal if he still is inconsistent than draft a QB next year. Make him the QB then trade or release Campbell won't cost you much on a 3 year deal. 3-4 or 4-3 I don't care. I want to see Rak with tons of opportunites for more sacks and causing Turnovers. Send him after the QB like D-Ware of the cowgirls. Move back in the first or second round and pick up the 3rd rounder we lost to the supplemental draft for Jarmon also get him on the field.

Posted by: Hackersk | January 21, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Danny Smith is entertaining, but my bottom line is that anybody who allows A Randle El to return punts like he did has got to go.

Posted by: WiscoSkinsFan | January 21, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

4 guys talking about football and only one guy that actually knows anything about it.

Posted by: filmchis | January 21, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

IMO IF Shanny goes QB at #4 it'll be Clausen. His stats last year were incredible considering the crap line, zero running game, and lack of top end weapons. (sound like any place we know?)

Posted by: zjfr2 | January 21, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Couple of points. Jimmy probably had the most talented receiving corp in the country last year. Tate is going to be a 1st rounder this year and Floyd who was a soph is better. They also have a TE that is going to be 1st rd talent and was a soph as well.

The line was weak and he was injured most of the season. IMO he is the best QB in the draft. His accuracy is off the charts.

That being said I don't think Shanny takes him as he is not mobile at all. Shanny likes QBs that are a bit more mobile.

Posted by: srobert1117 | January 21, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Shanny knows that the O-line is the heart & soul of the team. You can bet that he will address it in a big way in the off-season, even if he has to give up one or more of the established players already here, like Cooley, for example.

Posted by: shanks1 | January 21, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Special teams sucked...change is needed

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | January 21, 2010 8:20 PM | Report abuse

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