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Skins' Turnover Immunity Nearly Ended

The Redskins came awfully close to committing their first turnover of the season Sunday, when Jason Campbell and Ladell Betts had a botched exchange on a draw play. Campbell joked that the call was actually a quarterback draw - as he ended up grabbing the ball out of midair after Betts took off for the hole too soon.

"He saw the hole open up so wide that he was ready to go," Campbell said. "And I said, 'Ladell, you can't leave the ball.' And once we couldn't exchange the ball, one thing I tried to do is follow him to the hole. By the time I got to the hole, the hole had shut down."

It resulted in a busted play, and a six-yard gain on second-and-16 from the Dallas 16, but could have been much worse. Washington has not turned the ball over all season on offense. Campbell fumbled 13 times last season, losing eight, in 13 starts. Washington is tied for the NFL lead with a plus-6 turnover ratio.

"We focus on it every day in practice," Campbell said. "We really emphasize. Our defense [does] a good job of trying to knock the ball out of our hands when we are practicing to make us aware of it."

The Redskins' only turnover was a fumbled punt return by Antwaan Randle El. The Giants and Dolphins are the only other teams in the league with just one giveaway; Miami and New York have only played three games, however. They have byes last week.

By Jason La Canfora  |  September 29, 2008; 1:18 PM ET
 
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Anyone heard from the sports guru?

has he given JC his props yet?

Posted by: GreatOne1 | September 29, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

first & best!!

Posted by: Hail2theChief | September 29, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Anyone heard from the sports guru?

has he given JC his props yet?

Posted by: GreatOne1 | September 29, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

HTTR!

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 29, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Crap, second...

Posted by: jwlemons | September 29, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Just like with JC and Rogers. Give the Kelly some time.

Knew JLC couldn't go without finding something negative. You really should ask for a new assignment.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | September 29, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

That was a scary moment... last year that ball's on the carpet and we're all lamenting the fumbleitis... glad it turned out well, making lemonade out of lemons is one mark of a good team...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | September 29, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

HTTR!

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 29, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

HTTR!

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 29, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

SportsGuru is hiding just like Romo last night. Can you believe that coward refused to go on the field for the customary handshake with the opposing general and slinked (slunk?) off to the locker room for some alone time with Witten instead?

Posted by: LiberalMike | September 29, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

HTTR!

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 29, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

GO1,
I saw him on here did not recall anything about JC, he changed the handle slightly so it is something something Sports_Guru.

Posted by: alex35332 | September 29, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

nice to beat the boys. you guys see Snyder in the locker room yelling about being physical? All 5'5" of him getting fierce!!LMAO

Posted by: Hail2theChief | September 29, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Very good alert athletic reaction from Campbell on that play. Campbell's athleticism is a big part of his success. He doesn't get sacked or tackled easily and can run for yards.

There have been very few plays this season that could have resulted in a turnover. I recall a pass to Devin Thomas against AZ that could have been a pick. So there has been a bit of luck in the 'zero turnover' stat, but not much.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 29, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, and if the cowboys have more points at the end of the game, then our two game winning streak is over.

you suck JLC. way to go out on a limb there.

Posted by: reality123 | September 29, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, and if the cowboys have more points at the end of the game, then our two game winning streak is over.

you suck JLC. way to go out on a limb there.

Posted by: reality123 | September 29, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, and if the cowboys have more points at the end of the game, then our two game winning streak is over.

you suck JLC. way to go out on a limb there.

Posted by: reality123 | September 29, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Howdy, blog peeps!

Been out of the loop. Thought I would check in...

Listened to the game on Sirius Satellite Radio, the Cowboys' broadcast, and was delighted to hear their announcers squirm over the loss.

Major props to JC. Sounds like the young man has graduated from banging around in the back of the short bus to piloting the long bus, and in fine fashion!

Wow, just wow! Don't let anybody say I told you so, because I didn't.

'Sup Nate? 'Sup Willie? 'Sup Stumped? Still in the PDX and not going anywhere anytime soon, or ummmm... ever!

Hail!

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 29, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

lib, thats a bs move in my book. The guy with the bum knee up here, Brady does that VERY same thing. It REEKS of pouting, and being a sore loser.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | September 29, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Outstanding to note the return of Chia Pet.

Steinz spoke with Khary Campbell about the birth of his son:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/

Posted by: Cindy Boren | September 29, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Hail2theChief, nobody knows better than Dan Snyder that Redskin football is violent, physical, violent f***ing football.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | September 29, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Howdy, blog peeps!

Been out of the loop. Thought I would check in...

Listened to the game on Sirius Satellite Radio, the Cowboys' broadcast, and was delighted to hear their announcers squirm over the loss.

Major props to JC. Sounds like the young man has graduated from banging around in the back of the short bus to piloting the long bus, and in fine fashion!

Wow, just wow! Don't let anybody say I told you so, because I didn't.

'Sup Nate? 'Sup Willie? 'Sup Stumped? Still in the PDX and not going anywhere anytime soon, or ummmm... ever!

Hail!

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 29, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Hail2theChief I thought I was the only one that notice that. I was rolling!

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | September 29, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

By the way, Campbell is now the 4th highest rated passer in the league at 102.2, 1st in the NFC East in that category, and the ONLY starting QB in the league without an INT (let alone no fumbles either). Effing brilliant.

Posted by: psps23 | September 29, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

I see Green Bay is already talking about cutting Frost. They're experiencing everything the skins did with him, we just put up with it longer.


"He (Frost) does really good in practice. I don't know if it's because it's a more relaxing environment or what."

Frost's gross average for 19 punts is 44.9. He has three touchbacks and merely one punt inside the 20.

Posted by: isonic1 | September 29, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Here's to hoping that trend continues against Philly, but I think they are the best defense we're gonna face in terms of forcing turnovers. Not that we can't beat them, they just sell out on so many blitzes it's kind of inevitable that they get a sack/fumble, tipped-ball/pick, forced-throw/pick at some point.

Posted by: p1funk | September 29, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, Cindy.

No internet access at home; banging away at the keyboard at the public library of all places.

Comments are posting in duplicate, it seems.

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 29, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Hola, Chia, I hate that you're clinging to this "short bus" garbage, but glad you're coming around on Campbell... kicking and screaming :)

Watched this magnificent game with Redskin Willie yesterday, hoping to catch up with as many PDX peeps as possible for the Phillthy game on Sunday...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | September 29, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

So, is it too soon to wonder if the Danny figured it all out?

Posted by: alex35332 | September 29, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

And I'm looking at some of the other stats; it's pretty interesting.

The #2, #3, and #4 offenses in the league have all been defeated by us (Dal, NO, and ARI respectively). All 4 of our opponents are in the top 10 in pts/gm. As a scoring defense, we are #10 ranked. Pretty good considering the competition.

We are also the #8 ranked offense.

Posted by: psps23 | September 29, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

nice to beat the boys. you guys see Snyder in the locker room yelling about being physical? All 5'5" of him getting fierce!!LMAO

Posted by: Hail2theChief | September 29, 2008 2:14 PM

Seeing him all giddy and physical and pumped up in the lockerroom actually had me a little embarrassed, as a 'Skins fan, for a moment.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 29, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

So, is it too soon to wonder if the Danny figured it all out?

Posted by: alex35332 | September 29, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

YES.

Posted by: p1funk | September 29, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

OK I am the type of person who WILL stand up and eat crow. I was wrong about Campbell...He has shown he can play at a very high level. I'm so glad I was wrong.....But as I stated...I had said "thus far he has not shown it" He sure has now...With 3 straight games of playing at a high level has proved everyone wrong.

Also I want to ad...I have seen alot of credit thrown at Zorn....He should get lots of credit...thus far he has done a fantastic job......BUT let's not forget....Gibbs gets credit too...He turned this franchise around and put it in the right direction...He built this team...he layed the fondation...Gibbs bulit the car...Zorn jumped in and new how to drive it in todays game....

HAIL!

Posted by: leevi98 | September 29, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: skins1110 | September 29, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Check this out:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/nfl08.htm

Skins are NUMBER ONE ACCORDING TO THIS MATHEMATICAL FORMULA.

Posted by: craig2 | September 29, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: skins1110 | September 29, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

OK I am the type of person who WILL stand up and eat crow. I was wrong about Campbell...He has shown he can play at a very high level. I'm so glad I was wrong.....But as I stated...I had said "thus far he has not shown it" He sure has now...With 3 straight games of playing at a high level has proved everyone wrong.

Also I want to ad...I have seen alot of credit thrown at Zorn....He should get lots of credit...thus far he has done a fantastic job......BUT let's not forget....Gibbs gets credit too...He turned this franchise around and put it in the right direction...He built this team...he layed the fondation...Gibbs bulit the car...Zorn jumped in and knew how to drive it in todays game....

HAIL!

Posted by: leevi98 | September 29, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

alex35332 I am not ready to go that far. But I do think we need to give Vinny some credit for Zorn. Looks like he knew what he was doing giving Zorn the HC job.

Posted by: icetotalpackage | September 29, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: skins1110 | September 29, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Very good alert athletic reaction from Campbell on that play. Campbell's athleticism is a big part of his success. He doesn't get sacked or tackled easily and can run for yards.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 29, 2008 2:15 PM

Because Jason Campbell "stays medium" ... aka, has Zojo.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2008/09/morning_look_jim_zorn_stays_me.html

Posted by: dcsween | September 29, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Nate,

The short bus routine is said in jest, my friend, as is just about everything else I post up here.

No disrespect intended, to JC, or anyone else, for that matter.

;-)

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 29, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

All the accolades from ESPN, SI, they can take it and shove it, because I don't want it. All the 'power rankings' I could give a rip about that, and HOPEFULLY no one on this team does either.

I hope this team has every piece of literature that bashed this team in the locker room.

I hope that chip NEVER leaves their shoulder.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | September 29, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Any truth to the fact that Michael Westbrook was seen working out with Malcolm Kelly?

Nate, what else would you make lemondae with?? :)

HAIL HOMIES!! I am so geeked up today. Perhaps a scathing commentary on the depth of my life at the moment but few things give me more joy than beating Dallas in Big D

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | September 29, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Chia_Pet good to see you man up. Maybe JLC can take some notes from you.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | September 29, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

More from Zorn's presser:

For all his focus on playcalling and gameplanning, Zorn is candid about what is most important. “I brought the gameplan into the offensive meeting and, ‘Okay guys, here it is … and it means NOTHING without execution.’ Scheme is good, but execution of the scheme makes all the difference.”
Zorn attributed his fondness for the “hip hip hooray” cheer to Chuck Knox, who used it in Seattle, acknowledging that it seemed old school even then, but “kinda fired me up.” Told that George Allen had done the same thing here in D.C., Zorn almost beamed. “I couldn’t believe that” when I heard, he said. “That’s providence.”

Injury updates: Stephon Heyer tweaked his shoulder. Randy Thomas has a little turf toe. Shawn Springs is managing his calf injury. Jason Taylor is reportedly walking around. And for all of these guys, we’ll have more details on actual status and availability on Wednesday. One thing the players have to be aware of, Zorn noted, “is the difference between being injured and being sore.” Because everyone is going to be sore after a game like that.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | September 29, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

You know me, Chia, I have an allergic reaction to the "Campbell is dumb" meme and want to see it completely put to bed... even if he makes mistakes in the future, which given the nature of this game will happen...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | September 29, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

I think we are +8 in the turnover dept. We were +6 going into the Dallas game and two more turnovers give us +8! Keep it up boys....love what I see out there.

Posted by: candyangle | September 29, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

OK, so Jason Campbell is looking better.

He would have had the 3 TDs I said he needed to garner my respect, if Rabach had been paying attention instead of drifting over the line of scrimmage.

I am beginning to see some potential in Jason Campbell. Let's hope this continues.

Posted by: Sports_Guru | September 29, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Skins are NUMBER ONE ACCORDING TO THIS MATHEMATICAL FORMULA.

Posted by: craig2 | September 29, 2008 2:34 PM

Unfortunately, formulas don't play football. I love that we beat Dallas and are finally getting some props about it, but it feels like Skins are getting a "flavor of the week" treatment. Philly's has a defense that must be respected (the score against Dallas and the performance against the Bears notwithstanding).

Also, I believe The Owner ("WE PLAY PHYSICAL, WE WIN!") just had his Howard Dean moment.

Posted by: dcsween | September 29, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

SportsGuru is hiding just like Romo last night. Can you believe that coward refused to go on the field for the customary handshake with the opposing general and slinked (slunk?) off to the locker room for some alone time with Witten instead?

Posted by: LiberalMike | September 29, 2008 2:11 PM


Jason did pretty well, I will give that to him, but how will he do against a good defense? This is yet to be seen.

Posted by: Sports_Guru | September 29, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

All the accolades from ESPN, SI, they can take it and shove it, because I don't want it. All the 'power rankings' I could give a rip about that, and HOPEFULLY no one on this team does either.

I hope this team has every piece of literature that bashed this team in the locker room.

I hope that chip NEVER leaves their shoulder.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | September 29, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Amen.

Posted by: p1funk | September 29, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Fried Crow
Baked Crow
BBQ Crow
Stuffed Crow
Baked Stuffed Crow
Mashed Crow
Crow Soup
Crow Stew
Crow Chili

Which was it guru....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | September 29, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

think we are +8 in the turnover dept. We were +6 going into the Dallas game and two more turnovers give us +8! Keep it up boys....love what I see out there.

Posted by: candyangle | September 29, 2008 3:00 PM

They're +6 through 4 games. They have 5 interceptions and 2 fumble recoveries for 7 turnovers created. They also lost a fumble for 1 turnover.

Hence the +6.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 29, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Not to nitpick but since I'm a math guy I'd like to point out that +6 here is actually the turnover differntial. A ratio is a fraction that implies division.

Posted by: NickelsLuvsSkins | September 29, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Jason did pretty well, I will give that to him, but how will he do against a good defense? This is yet to be seen.

Posted by: Sports_Guru

Guru:
Your an A$$ I thought Dallas had one of the best Ds in the NFL?

Posted by: wstclair | September 29, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Moving the goalposts again, eh, Sports Guru? Still holding out for Campbell to prove you right, in the face of three straight weeks when he piloted this offense to victory...

Must be difficult to enjoy a victory over our biggest rival when you're waiting breathlessly for the quarterback to live up to all the venom you've spewed at him... sigh... good grief, dude...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | September 29, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

In addition to respecting the Philly D, McNabb requires respect. Last night there was a fake draw reverse that McNabb sold better than cold water in hell. He showed pass, then faked a push hand off to the draw, then WALKED backward to hand off the reverse. McNabb was standing straight up and literally walking slowly away from the line. Total sale.

That said, I think the Skins can count on DeSean Jackson for a mind fart or two ...

Posted by: dcsween | September 29, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Sports_Guru

You really just need to come out and say the real reason why you don't like JC and stop the BS. Every damn week you got wait until next week. That's some weak sht! If you don't like him than just man up and say so.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | September 29, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Is it weird that my dog is going to wear a Portis "Southeast Jerome" wig/outfit to the dog park on Halloween? It was his idea.

HTTR

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | September 29, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Sports_Guru- You are a punk a$$ bama*.

*Verbally stealing you in the mouth*

Signed,
so white. so very white.

Posted by: 4-12 | September 29, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

guru, you haven't a shred of credibility with the majority of the folks on here, based on inability to 'man up' and admit you were wrong.

Go play in traffic.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | September 29, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Is the reason Sports_dumb_a$$_guru doesn't like Campbell is because he is black? Oh my God are you serious, but yet he is a Skins fan? So he would rather see JC do bad and the Skins fail because he is a black QB. What a dumb a$$

Posted by: wstclair | September 29, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

sween, I'd like to see one of those 'greatest bloopers in the history of the game' things from DeSean (who I seriously think is scary good but can be contained)... a broken play near midfield, a mad scramble, DeSean winds up with the ball and, running like the wind and showboating madly, beats everyone down the field to... his own end zone, scoring a safety...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | September 29, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Sports_false prophet.....you are a complete joke. Do you write small print in legal contracts for a living?

Posted by: chrislarry | September 29, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Is the reason Sports_dumb_a$$_guru doesn't like Campbell is because he is black? Oh my God are you serious, but yet he is a Skins fan? So he would rather see JC do bad and the Skins fail because he is a black QB. What a dumb a$$

Posted by: wstclair

If he said that at least I would have some respect for him for standing by what he believes. But this BS about wait until next week each time he is proven wrong shows what a punk he is.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | September 29, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

I AM SO HAPPY! I BELIEVE! I BELIEVE!

I have a Cowpaddies fan in one of my afternoon classes and I am so going to be a bad teacher and crow about our victory.
YEEHAW!

Soups is just solid and getting better. He is dodging and weaving in the pocket like a cheerleader at a frat party. If Rabach hadn't gotten that second penalty yesterday, Soups escape from the sack, a thing of beauty, would have been the highlight. It was like BBM in the SB.

I agree though we have to buckle down for Phillthy - good to hear LFB calling the d in for film watching. I think next week has the potential for another body bag game but minus dirty Andre Waters and more balanced in the body bags.

You could make lemon meringue pie with lemons . . .I heart pie.

Posted by: sfskin | September 29, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

@dcsween
@BeantownGreg

I agree with both of you, this team needs to keep it's current edge, which sure as hell is sharp. I don't Zorn is the type to let the success interfere with getting the job done, just not his style.

I was posting the link to the formulation as interesting tidbit, none of that crap matters after foot hits ball on Sundays.

Posted by: craig2 | September 29, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

I knew it....Corkczar gets on here and raves about how great the Skins are. And tries to say people like him are the REAL fans, that's a joke! A fan has faith in his team ALL OF THE TIME, not just after a win. 4-12 if they are lucky....and bashing any Skins fan who actually had the nerve to believe this team was capable of being .500 or better.

Shove it Corkczar!

Hail to the true burgandy and gold fans, those that believe in their team always, not just when the team is winning!

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | September 29, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

I knew it....Corkczar gets on here and raves about how great the Skins are. And tries to say people like him are the REAL fans, that's a joke! A fan has faith in his team ALL OF THE TIME, not just after a win. 4-12 if they are lucky....and bashing any Skins fan who actually had the nerve to believe this team was capable of being .500 or better.

Shove it Corkczar!

Hail to the true burgandy and gold fans, those that believe in their team always, not just when the team is winning!

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | September 29, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Way to man up leevi. I wish the media would do it too. Guru, so close yet so very, very far. Just eat the crow man, you don't have to chew, just be quick and swallow it whole.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 29, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

I knew it....Corkczar gets on here and raves about how great the Skins are. And tries to say people like him are the REAL fans, that's a joke! A fan has faith in his team ALL OF THE TIME, not just after a win. 4-12 if they are lucky....and bashing any Skins fan who actually had the nerve to believe this team was capable of being .500 or better.

Shove it Corkczar!

Hail to the true burgandy and gold fans, those that believe in their team always, not just when the team is winning!

Posted by: RobInVaBeach | September 29, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

He is dodging and weaving in the pocket like a cheerleader at a frat party.


LMAO!
JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | September 29, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: Cindy Boren | September 29, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell put his N..ts on your chin Sports_Guru, you're a D-Bag closet Cowgirls Fan

Posted by: drewkinnear | September 29, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

craig2, we're cool. I also am thinking that Jimzorn is having success at instilling the "stay medium" vibe with the team.

icetotalpackage? Is that a mandate? I fear the turtle.

Also, replaying the game in my head (rewinding, slo-mo, review, moving on), what were the "big plays"? I don't remember anything other than the Horton pick. Seemed like solid football, one play to the next, esp. on offense. What were the "big plays" on offense? Were there any?

Posted by: dcsween | September 29, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

You know I gotta step up for my man Corky. The dude has said plenty of positive things about the Skins, and I believe he is a real fan. But being a fan is not blind allegiance...its OK to be analytical, skeptical...those are not bad qualities by the way. I have had PLENTY of issues with the Skins over the last 20 years (and before)thats part of the fun of it all really....

I get uncomfortable with the "real fan/non real fan" line of thinking.
Now Sports_false prophet...thats a different story...that guys just a gas bag....

Posted by: chrislarry | September 29, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: Cindy Boren | September 29, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Moving the goalposts again, eh, Sports Guru? Still holding out for Campbell to prove you right, in the face of three straight weeks when he piloted this offense to victory...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | September 29, 2008 3:18 PM

Well, I asked for 3 TDS. He would have had 3 if Rabach hadn't drifted a couple of yards downfield on that brilliant pitch, catch and run Touchdown.

However, it is the QBs job to make sure his offensive team maintains focus. Rabach's error is a direct result of Jason Campbell's weakness as a leader. He should have torn Rabach a new one in the huddle following his previous penalty that negated the Clinton Portis TD. Perhaps if Campbell had been more of a leader in that situation, Rabach would have stayed home, and Campbell would have met my metric of 3 TDs.

Make sense?

Posted by: Sports_Guru | September 29, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

IF YOU WANT TO CROWN THEM THEN GO AHEAD AND CROWN THEM, BUT THEY ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE!

Posted by: clark202 | September 29, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

IF YOU WANT TO CROWN THEM THEN GO AHEAD AND CROWN THEM, BUT THEY ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE!

Posted by: clark202 | September 29, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Well, I asked for 3 TDS. He would have had 3 if Rabach hadn't drifted a couple of yards downfield on that brilliant pitch, catch and run Touchdown.

However, it is the QBs job to make sure his offensive team maintains focus. Rabach's error is a direct result of Jason Campbell's weakness as a leader. He should have torn Rabach a new one in the huddle following his previous penalty that negated the Clinton Portis TD. Perhaps if Campbell had been more of a leader in that situation, Rabach would have stayed home, and Campbell would have met my metric of 3 TDs.

Make sense?

Posted by: Sports_Guru | September 29, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

---------------------
Well, actually Sports_Guru, your "logic" makes NO sense.

While I concur with your statement that "it is the QBs job to make sure his offensive team maintains focus." I do note that Jason's supposed "weakness as a leader" is in fact wholeheartedly untrue. In the heat of a game, Jason Campbell -- scratch that, ANY legitimate QB -- DOES NOT "tear" his center "a new one" while attempting to score a TD. Jim Zorn is about tempo, the WCO is about tempo, wasting precious seconds against a heated rival to lambast one's own teammate is not only COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE, it is also indicative of the (potentially) divisive and ultimately back-breaking mentality that threatens to doom the Dallas Cowboys. More to the point, if you've read David Halberstam's biography on Vince Lombardi, any biography of Lincoln, FDR, or, to take a more contemporary example, the one-and-only Joe Gibbs, QUIET forms of leadership are often just as successful as confrontational, Parcells-esque behavior.

As for Rabach, other than the San Diego game in which he had a holding penalty late in the 4th quarter, he has been everything the Skins could have hoped for when they signed him from Baltimore. I hardly think JC (or anyone else) is going to throw him under the bus so quickly.

(And as for Campbell, the fact that he bought time and still managed to throw another TD should be more than enough to demonstrate his "lack" of leadership.)

You're logic, Sports_Guru, is utterly flawed. And a) I am thankful you are not in position to lead a group of men like this. (And if you are, God bless them.)
And b) the fact that you have neither responded to nor refuted the previous posters' suggestion of racism re: Campbell seems to be the most damning evidence yet of your unfortunate (and unspoken) disdain for our QB. Shame on you, sir.

Posted by: ColumbiaUSkins | September 29, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Well, I asked for 3 TDS. He would have had 3 if Rabach hadn't drifted a couple of yards downfield on that brilliant pitch, catch and run Touchdown.

However, it is the QBs job to make sure his offensive team maintains focus. Rabach's error is a direct result of Jason Campbell's weakness as a leader. He should have torn Rabach a new one in the huddle following his previous penalty that negated the Clinton Portis TD. Perhaps if Campbell had been more of a leader in that situation, Rabach would have stayed home, and Campbell would have met my metric of 3 TDs.

Make sense?

Posted by: Sports_Guru | September 29, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

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Well, actually Sports_Guru, your "logic" makes NO sense.

While I concur with your statement that "it is the QBs job to make sure his offensive team maintains focus." I do note that Jason's supposed "weakness as a leader" is in fact wholeheartedly untrue. In the heat of a game, Jason Campbell -- scratch that, ANY legitimate QB -- DOES NOT "tear" his center "a new one" while attempting to score a TD. Jim Zorn is about tempo, the WCO is about tempo, wasting precious seconds against a heated rival to lambast one's own teammate is not only COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE, it is also indicative of the (potentially) divisive and ultimately back-breaking mentality that threatens to doom the Dallas Cowboys. More to the point, if you've read David Halberstam's biography on Vince Lombardi, any biography of Lincoln, FDR, or, to take a more contemporary example, the one-and-only Joe Gibbs, QUIET forms of leadership are often just as successful as confrontational, Parcells-esque behavior.

As for Rabach, other than the San Diego game in which he had a holding penalty late in the 4th quarter, he has been everything the Skins could have hoped for when they signed him from Baltimore. I hardly think JC (or anyone else) is going to throw him under the bus so quickly.

(And as for Campbell, the fact that he bought time and still managed to throw another TD should be more than enough to demonstrate his "lack" of leadership.)

You're logic, Sports_Guru, is utterly flawed. And a) I am thankful you are not in position to lead a group of men like this. (And if you are, God bless them.)
And b) the fact that you have neither responded to nor refuted the previous posters' suggestion of racism re: Campbell seems to be the most damning evidence yet of your unfortunate (and unspoken) disdain for our QB. Shame on you, sir.

Posted by: ColumbiaUSkins | September 29, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

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