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The Tuna, Melted

My favorite mid-week conference call is gone, caput, over. Bill, why have ye forsaken me?

This decision surprised me, given its timing. You have to wonder what went on behind the scenes the last three weeks to make Bill want to leave. If he was dead set on it, if Parcells knew is his heart this was the end, I think he would have walked the week after they heartbreaking loss to Seattle. Something smells fishy here (excuse the pun).

Given the defection of assistants in recent years from Big D, I think Jerry "Perma-tan" Jones is feeling the heat, so to speak. Hiring Russ Grimm would take some cajones, and I have a feeling Ron Rivera might be their guy - but that requires two more weeks of waiting and now you're pretty deep into the offseason.

Right now, the Cowboys are in the same terrain as the Raiders; any time your company is Al Davis, that can't be a good sign.

I suppose the drama from ownership and TO was too much for Parcells in the end. I hope he goes back to broadcasting, because the dude cracks me up and was always fun to cover ... from afar.

I imagine the Cowboys haters out there are excited about this news, eh?

By Jason La Canfora  |  January 23, 2007; 12:25 PM ET
 
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Sweet untainted new thread... how i love your lack of spoilers.

So the Big Tuna is gone. Maybe when the Giants finally decide to get rid of Coughlin, Tuna will be ready to return to the NFC East. I can't see him staying away. He is a coach for hire, the NFL equivalent of Larry Brown.

Dag Jason, Al Davis? Thats a low blow...

Posted by: Dorf | January 23, 2007 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Posted in other blog.....

Sorry JM220 - I meant to say 217, which i saw while browsing through yesterday, so I assume you lost some weight. I was bloging my guts out too fast...

LH - Never watched ER, and I was starting to belive he was the guy from HAppy Days (witch was in syndication in the 80s, which I vagely remember). Also, I am young compared to most of you, but I was an avid reader of SBs and redskins history during my Junior/Senior High School years to relive all the glory that I JUST missed due to my youth (sae for the '89 and '92 SB witch I def remember. '88-89 for Doug and 91-92 for the 14-2 run). I was playing Youth/High School Football at the time and wanted to digest everything football from redskins to NFL history. That's why the Norv years are some of my most memorable (sadly, ofcourse).

24 - This is the 1st time I haven't liked Regina King in a role. I sure hope she dosen't mess up that sting operation. If I was that SS agent, I would be tempted to knock her the --ck out. She shouldn't even be at the Anacostia Detention Center (or whateva they called it) They should have made her Boyfriend the Pres. LBP looks disastiorous. He was aboutto cry at the end. The nerd guy from last year is just putting up a front so he can stab LBP in the back about 6-8 hours from now..........

Posted by: 4th | January 23, 2007 12:49 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait to see old Norville on the sidelines for Dallas, that will be fun to watch.

Posted by: Medina Sod | January 23, 2007 12:49 PM | Report abuse

I think he is done coaching, GM somewhere I could see after a year or so off. Don't see TV, The michael irvin's, the sharpes and Deion's (new school guys) get under his skin.

Posted by: Old School | January 23, 2007 12:49 PM | Report abuse

JLaC- You def know how to deal blows in you blog domain. Hope it dosen't come back to haunt you....

Has anyone noticed the The Dallas HC (as Madden 2006 calls him and we should in thihs blog) is rougly the same age as when Gibbs cam back, and people still want him to coach?!?! I view this as a slight against Gibbs 2.3 since everyone was saying he was too old for the game.........

Again Grimm could not be a Dallas HC. The fans wouldn't allow it. The Redskins wouldn't allow it. Snyder would NEVER allow it......

Posted by: 4th Floor | January 23, 2007 12:55 PM | Report abuse

I think he's done for good. This last lost took 3 years off his life which means he's been dead for two already.

As an affirmed "Dallas Hater" nothing would make me happier than to see the 'girls implode, but I don't think they will.

Their D is pretty solid and they have young talent at QB and RB. If they were to hire Grimm I think they would be immediate contenders again. It would kill me to see Captain Hog (Wasn't he the originator of the chilishack?) in silver and blue.

I also think that Parcell's optimum role may be best described as a rebuilder. It's what he did in NY, NE and Dallas. It may take someone else to get them to the next level.

And I like the Jones/Davis comparison... Leatherskin and Skeletor... Does that make The Danny She-Man?

Posted by: evan | January 23, 2007 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Did you cats know Todd Bowles, formwer skins DB was a coach in Dallas and prolly would have been their next Def Cord if Fat Tuna stayed?!

"Todd Bowles, secondary; born November 18, 1963, Elizabeth, N.J. Defensive back Temple 1982-85. Pro defensive back Washington Redskins 1986-1990, 1992-93, San Francisco 49ers 1991. College coach: Morehouse College 1997, Grambling State 1998-99. Pro coach: New York Jets 2000, Cleveland Browns 2001-04, joined Cowboys in 2005."

Posted by: chris Larry | January 23, 2007 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Dorf | January 23, 2007 1:04 PM | Report abuse

I wouldnt be surprised to see the tuna pop up some place else, whether its a week, or a year it wont surprise me.

Everytime this guy takes a position, he just ups and quits right when everyone thinks he's on the verge of winning it all.

Now I understand why my uncle (giants fan) dispises this guy. He just leaves whenever he wants, with no remorse. Couldnt happen to a better organization.

Bring in Norv. He'll lead them to the promise land of 8-8 and self destruction. Rivera... that might be a different story. And Grimm... god forbid thats all I can say.

Posted by: Go Skins Go | January 23, 2007 1:08 PM | Report abuse

The best thing we can hope for is contrversy in every NFC East City, save for DC.

"Citing people close to the injured star quarterback, The Trenton Times reported Tuesday that McNabb is unhappy with several things that have happened with the Eagles since his season ended with a torn ACL in his right knee.

Some of McNabb's reported gripes:

• McNabb reportedly is unhappy that Eagles coach Andy Reid didn't allow him to travel with the team to New Orleans for the team's playoff game against the Saints. The Eagles have a rule that players on injured reserve don't travel with the team.

• McNabb also reportedly might be getting the feeling that some with the Eagles might prefer Garcia as the team's starting quarterback after Garcia led Philadelphia to the playoffs and a postseason victory after McNabb's injury.

• And McNabb also reportedly isn't happy with how his mother has been portrayed in the media and by Eagles fans for comments on her blog on his Web site. She wrote that watching the Eagles win without McNabb was "bittersweet.""

The Giants have that HC Contrversy and Dallas contrversy is well known - They don't have a HC. We on the other hand are doing fine for the moment.....

Posted by: 4th | January 23, 2007 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Rumor has it the Danny is sending Redskin One to Dallas to buy I mean meet with the Tuna about a GM position.

Posted by: Rumor Mill | January 23, 2007 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Ofcourse, reporters will find TO anywhere to get a qoute.

This qoute(s) are very revealing on his end, not the DAllas former HC...

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6400146?print=true

Posted by: 4th Floor | January 23, 2007 1:31 PM | Report abuse

I realize Norv has a prior relationship with Jerry Jones, and he appears to have done a decent job coaching up Alex Smith in SF, but haven't we established that he is not head coach material? Forget the Rooney Rule, there should be a head coach hiring rule where teams can't hire anyone as head coach who has sucked in two or more prior stints.

That being said, I hope Dallas hires him and we get to see more of his constipation face on the sideline and listen to his whiney excuses about why they lost again.

Posted by: OD | January 23, 2007 1:32 PM | Report abuse

I am disappointed that Tuna is gone. He was a good coach but overrated. Gibbs became better able to beat the CB's as time went on. My real concern is that the Boys might actually hire a really good coach. *gulp*

Here's hoping for Norv's return.

Posted by: charlie | January 23, 2007 1:35 PM | Report abuse

"Bet this, too: If you hadn't heard from Jerry Jones by the time Bill Parcells' statement hit the news Monday, forget about coaching the Cowboys. The names circulating for weeks have been Wade Phillips and Norv Turner, a couple of logical candidates for many reasons, particularly if you understand Jerry's history. Phillips is appealing because of his long experience with the 3-4, something Mike Zimmer didn't have. And unless you want to remake the Cowboys' roster - Jerry doesn't - making this defense work should be a priority. Turner? He'd be an excellent mentor to Tony Romo, and he'd fix an inconsistent offense. He's also one of Jerry's favorites, a friendly reminder from an era that seems more distant every season."

Posted by: 4th Floor via Dallas News | January 23, 2007 1:40 PM | Report abuse

"Alonzo Shavers, who represents Asante Samuel, said yesterday the Patriots were going to have to show his client some big-time warmth and affection if they wanted the cornerback back: "He's excited about the opportunity he has. He loves New England. But New England has to love him too," Shavers said when reached by phone. "At this point right now, he's waited his turn for them to show that affection and that admiration. If they choose not to, well, obviously, we've had a good run there, and we'll set up camp in another location." Samuel's contract is up, and given the type of season the cornerback has had, it's not difficult to fathom Shavers' position and do the math. Some experts might not have put Samuel in Ty Law's category at the start of the season, maybe not even midway through the season. But down the stretch, Samuel ascended to shut-down corner status in the eyes of many observers. Along with having a career year, the athlete with a "Get Paid" tattoo managed to elevate his play in the bigger games against the better receivers."

PLEASE DO NOT DIGN ASANTE SAMEUL. ALSO DO NOT SIGN CLEMENTS....

Posted by: 4th Floor via Boston Herald | January 23, 2007 1:44 PM | Report abuse

4th,

"PLEASE DO NOT SIGN ASANTE SAMUEL/CLEMENTS...." ?????

Why?

Posted by: charlie | January 23, 2007 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Because the minute they get paid in DC, they'll turn into Deion Sanders. Or Adam Archuleta....

Posted by: Redcoat | January 23, 2007 1:53 PM | Report abuse

We should not forget that in the last meeting between the two, Joe Gibbs bested Bill Parcells which, in all likelihood, delivered the death blow to Parcells' coaching career. Advantage: Redskins. Eat it, Cowboys.

Oh, and good luck hiring a new coach, loser Cowboys. Maybe they'll re-hire Dave Campo.

Posted by: Joe in Raleigh | January 23, 2007 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Because.......

They already had their great seasons. As CBs they command higher salaries these days. Once we lock them up for 6-7 years and 15 Mil gaurenteed, they will suck. Call it a hunch. I have been steadfast in this for the past month or so now.....

Posted by: 4th | January 23, 2007 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Joe - Where you been?

Posted by: 4th | January 23, 2007 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Yeah right, Joe in Raliegh. And Joe Gibbs also invented the internets. Gibbs couldn't deliver the death blow to a fruitfly.

Posted by: SMACK | January 23, 2007 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Yeah but Samuel has only been in the league 4 years.

Champ has been in the league for 8 years and only this year has he become a great cornerback.

Posted by: charlie | January 23, 2007 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Only this year Champ has become a great CB? Charlie, I don't think you've been paying attention.

Posted by: Skinz | January 23, 2007 2:06 PM | Report abuse

4th, was away from my computer for a week. Lurking a bit here. I jump in and mix it up on Maske's blog every now and again.

SMACK, it's called attention to detail. In their last meeting, Gibbs had it, Parcells and the loser cowboys didn't. The better coached team prevailed. Death blow. End of career.

Posted by: Joe in Raleigh | January 23, 2007 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Joe in Raleigh, you must have missed that game. The only team that didn't have attention to detail was the referees. If Joe Gibbs makes your heart go pitterpat, that's fine. But he had very little to do with the outcome of that game.

Posted by: SMACK | January 23, 2007 2:10 PM | Report abuse

editor, looks like dan beat you to the punch:

Kornheiser to WTWP
Well, the Examiner item I linked to this morning was incorrect. Tony Kornheiser's return to radio will take place on WTWP, and not on WTEM. The official announcement will come within the hour.

Many apologies for sending you in the wrong direction.

Posted by: dealer | January 23, 2007 2:16 PM | Report abuse

I still rock my Champ Bailey jersey... I loved that guy

good thing CP is such a sweet back, it was hard to see him go.

Posted by: Dorf | January 23, 2007 2:23 PM | Report abuse

cindy, jm, diddy, i liked what they did with jack's "brother". it's called tying up lose ends and something that LOST writers should take note of...

yes, cindy, you can pull that cord out of the lamp...only you have to have the "POWER OF BAUER"...i'll see if i have it when i get home

prison break is AWESOME! BUT they took 2 very very very good villains and have turned them into good guys. and THAT might not work for the show. now there's no scary villain out there except for that dude with one hand and thanks to DVR i always skip his part. absolutely no need to watch that kinda shti...

norv to dallas? WOW! NFC EAST is skins to lose even without norv in dallas. east is the least!

Posted by: dealer | January 23, 2007 2:24 PM | Report abuse

NFC EAST is skins to lose even without norv in dallas

dealer, I'm down with the east isleast thought, but regardless of the Dallas soap opera, unless the Eagles are moving, I would disagree with this part of your assessment

Adam

Posted by: EaglesFan | January 23, 2007 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Skinz,

Gosh, sorry about Champ. I am only going by all the sportswriters who say he is one of the best out there. Can't understand why he's in the Pro Bowl.

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9894876

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/wires/12/28/2020.ap.fbn.player.of.the.week.bailey.adv29.1121/index.html

Posted by: charlie | January 23, 2007 2:31 PM | Report abuse

"skins to lose"

dealer makes daring prediction!

Posted by: SMACK | January 23, 2007 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Dealer are you reporting or telling us Norv actually went to Dallas?

So, is TK on XXX and WTWP as well?!?!?!?

Posted by: 4th | January 23, 2007 2:34 PM | Report abuse

SMACK, do I say something mean like I'm confident the Skins FO is up to the task of losing it or is that simply stating the obvious?

Adam

Posted by: EaglesFan | January 23, 2007 2:35 PM | Report abuse

The Tuna, Melted. . .

all the more reason to keep the COTS blog name alive and kickin'. . .

Posted by: skinsfan@8KaboveMSL | January 23, 2007 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Well Adam, it is a Skins blog so I tend to allow for unmitigated optimism, at least until it spills over into the fairytale land of Joe Gibbs dealing death blows. Then it's reality time again.

Posted by: SMACK | January 23, 2007 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Awe shucks Charlie, I don't think you understand what i'm saying.

I'm not saying he's not a great CB. I'm saying he didn't just become one this year. He has ARGUABLY been the best CB in the league for many years. Certainly one of the top 3 in the league since his sophomore season.

Posted by: Skinz | January 23, 2007 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Breaking News via My Redskin Direct downloaded thingy.......

Kili Letofu has been allocatted to the NFL Europe....

I say JLaC write a blog about this.......

Posted by: 4th Floor | January 23, 2007 2:42 PM | Report abuse

People, the only thing worse than having no coach right now, would be suffering through another year of having grandmama on the sidelines. Cowboys fans are not bummed about the fat man leaving!

Posted by: SMACK | January 23, 2007 2:43 PM | Report abuse

SMACK

Agree with you on who dealt the Tuna the death blow; think the proper headline would be "TO KOs Tuna, Establishes Self as Biggest Rotting Fish in Dallas Pond"

However, I'm not willing to jump to your conclusions about Joe Gibbs' coaching acumen. As has been documented ad infinitem on this blog, the biggest failings of Gibbs 2.0 have been personnel decisions, not coaching ones

Adam

Posted by: EaglesFan | January 23, 2007 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Skinz,

Ooop. My bad.

Anyway, used to be good - now great.

Posted by: charlie | January 23, 2007 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Redskins.com -- Lloyd's Ride --

Why does it not shock me that "B-Lloyd" only listens to "B-Lloyd"?

Posted by: CMoney | January 23, 2007 2:59 PM | Report abuse

CMoney - Not the Hummer he got from his rookie season that they showed on Redskin's Generation roughly 12 - 15 weeks ago is it?

Posted by: 4th | January 23, 2007 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Sub-Zero delivered the death blow to Tuna.

Posted by: Anonymous | January 23, 2007 3:06 PM | Report abuse

4th, re: Norv to dallas. just my reaction to what i'm reading on this blog.

re: TK on XXX? No. just the re-airing of PTI on the radio on XXX.

re: TK on WTWP. That's what Dan Steinberg is reporting on his DCSPORTSBOG (front page of washpost.com)...

no official announcement yet...someone else mentioned on here that TK without andy pollie would be really weird. i agree...but maybe it'll be even better...

Posted by: dealer | January 23, 2007 3:08 PM | Report abuse

It is nice to see...despite the cache of draft picks and cap room, that the cowgirls are just as f'd up right now.

Adam Schifliss, is rumoring a coaching team of Wade Phillips and Jason Garrett, with Garrett labeled as....Head Coach in Training. Sounds great, good luck with that.

Posted by: k Squared | January 23, 2007 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Adam, were you watching when Gibbsy couldn't bear to watch the field goal, closed his eyes, said a little prayer, and about fainted? A real fortress of superhuman strength.

Posted by: SMACK | January 23, 2007 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Why don't we all agree that both are franchises suck.

Skins constantly screw up their roster/coaching staff and F their loyal fans.

Dallas seems to always have a good roster but loses playoff games and gets people like TO.

Everyone happy?

Posted by: Skinz | January 23, 2007 3:12 PM | Report abuse

i think the delay (of the announcent of TK to wapo radio) maybe caused by TK's insistence to rip any wapo writer that he'd like to(whenever rightfully waranted of course)...but mike wise is threatening to quit if wapo allows that to happen.

Posted by: dealer | January 23, 2007 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Didn't realize this until I saw it on ESPN News...
Chan Gailey took Dallas to as many playoff games and had a better record with Dallas than Parcells.
Wasn't Gailey an assistant with the Steelers before J.J. hired him? Sure hope history does NOT repeat itself!

Posted by: Diesel | January 23, 2007 3:14 PM | Report abuse

4th -- spot on

Posted by: CMoney | January 23, 2007 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Skinz, yeah I agree to that. If our teams were good, this wouldn't be nearly as much fun. There's just so much material - both teams are comedic gold.

Posted by: SMACK | January 23, 2007 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Happy, happy, joy, joy.

(Especially now that the Skins season is finally over.)

Posted by: charlie | January 23, 2007 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: CMoney | January 23, 2007 3:19 PM | Report abuse

cindy, where's the news that you promised at 2 PM EST? it's 3:23 PM EST!

we're dying out here!

Posted by: dealer | January 23, 2007 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Clark Judge is my new favorite sports writer:

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9947998

I don't think Parcells is a slam dunk for the Hall of Fame.

Now, do I think he was a good head coach? Absolutely. Do I think he was a great coach? At times, yeah. Do I think he belongs in the Hall of Fame? I don't know, and I'm not alone.

Three of the members of the Hall of Fame selection committee I spoke to Monday weren't all that sure about Parcells, either.

Posted by: CMoney | January 23, 2007 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Couple of points

Dealer - Thanks for the Clear up on Ererything

SMACK - You went a little too far for the painting part...

Skinz - Its the owners that suck, not the franchises.....

K Squared - That would be new but dumb. Yeah, we'll give you 'HC in training', but as soon as Cowher becomes available next year, you'll really be 'HC SOL'...

My current gripe with the Redskins is there TV MEdia. They have 3 self-produced shows. Redskins Generation (WUSA), Redskins Late Night (WUSA), and Redskins Gameday (WTTG). Why must they all show the same exact highlights? They also have alot of retred. If i looked at B. Lloyd's Hummer agiain for the 3rd time (once on RG and RLN), I will knock his smiley a** out myself. That guy blows! Why have 3 self-produced shows with so much retred?!?!?

Redskins Late night is pretty good, when I catch it. Larry Landover is off the Hook!!

Posted by: 4th | January 23, 2007 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Smack - I meant fainting. I did smirk for a sec though.......

Posted by: 4th | January 23, 2007 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Looks like TO has some letters in the mailbox.

Posted by: Postman | January 23, 2007 3:29 PM | Report abuse

"WASHINGTON (AP) -- For the record, Washington Wizards point guard Gilbert Arenas doesn't consider Tuesday's game against the Phoenix Suns as Part II of the Vendetta Tour.

"No, I already did what I said I was going to do to them," Arenas said. "The next team is Portland. One down, one to go." "

Posted by: 4th | January 23, 2007 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Good point SMACK. I, for one, am not used to humble and realistic Dallas fans.

Posted by: k Squared | January 23, 2007 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, gang. Had a meeting to attend. Here you go:

http://www.wtopnews.com/index.php?nid=25&sid=1041038

Posted by: Cindy | January 23, 2007 3:48 PM | Report abuse

I'll be at the Wiz game tonight. Anyone else going?

Posted by: SMACK | January 23, 2007 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Glad that TK wont be on XXX....

Has he even been doing a show that last few years? Or has been off the air? All I know is that "Mike and Mike in the Morning" has got to be the worst show of all time....

Posted by: chris Larry | January 23, 2007 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Cyn

The photo caption in this link reads "Tony Kornheiser, a former analyst on ESPN's Monday Night Football, is coming to Washington Post Radio"

Have I been living under a rock and therefore missed Tony stepping down from his gig on MNF or do you know something we don't?

Adam

Posted by: EaglesFan | January 23, 2007 3:58 PM | Report abuse

The caption doesn't match the story. I haven't talked to him yet; we're playing phone tag.

Posted by: Cindy | January 23, 2007 4:06 PM | Report abuse

SMACK - I'll be there with my Son. I got the tix from the link I posted earlier last week. The seats suck, though. But hey, I only spent $25 and now I am the Greatest in my son's eyes...

Sect 424, Row G. Where you gonna be at?

Posted by: 4th | January 23, 2007 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Fears alleviated!!!!

Seems Grimm will still be available when we want him, as this new gig with Cardinals not that long term!

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2740378

Posted by: chris Larry | January 23, 2007 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Some comments since I have (mostly) caught up with old posts -

I like Brady cuz he went to UM. But, yeah, I'm kinda tired of him too since the media turned him into some kind every guys guy....

Posted by: 4th Floor | January 21, 2007 01:55 PM

Yeah, most guys I know earn 10 mill a year, win Super Bowls and date models.....

-------
Vevir Vevir, I like that Cindy.
Bebir Bebir, the Vevir Vevir

Posted by: Jason La Canfora | January 21, 2007 07:21 PM

Geez, JLC is a whackjob like the rest of us!
-------

Monkeys are the greatest. Don't dump the monkey.

Posted by: Tony | January 21, 2007 07:24 PM

Don't dump the monkey ! Don't dump the monkey!

---------

Hey I've always wondered what happens to all t-shirts and hats from the team that lost?

Posted by: sfskin | January 21, 2007 10:29 PM

They are donated to charity and are sent off to really poor people in rural Africa, Asia etc. Yup someone in the world is now wearing a Seahawk Super Bowl XL Champion t-shirt.

Posted by: charlie | January 23, 2007 4:22 PM | Report abuse

4th, my friend has the tickets, but pretty sure I'm in the cheap seats too. I'll be in a jacket with "Science Daily" on the back, so if you see me give me a shout.

I'm sure you were already the greatest in your son's eyes. But good move getting Wiz tickets instead of State of the Union tickets.

Posted by: SMACK | January 23, 2007 4:23 PM | Report abuse

cl,

That really looks like some Grimm news!

Posted by: charlie | January 23, 2007 4:24 PM | Report abuse

The stars are almost aligned....

Gibbs will finish out his contract. Grimm will enjoy his vacation in AZ and coach-up the sihty offensive line while the Edge runs for 1,500 Back2back. Meanwhile Dan snyder will ask GG how he wants his Million. Ones, tens, or twentys?

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Snyder had a hand in this some way......

Posted by: 4th | January 23, 2007 4:24 PM | Report abuse

just got my iPod 24-ready... be back from the gym in about an hour or two to blog my Jack Bauer loving guts out... don't hate me cause I'm a day late.

Posted by: Dorf | January 23, 2007 4:30 PM | Report abuse

RI Insta-Poll:

Even though they start at different times tonight. DC has two BIG Events. The State of the Union and Wiz vs. Suns in an Epic battle. Which one will get better ratings in the DC Area?

Posted by: 4th | January 23, 2007 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm betting on the Wiz game.....Bush never tells us anything new....just that the war will go on....

Posted by: Lisa | January 23, 2007 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of monkeys, Jack Bauer was one nimble little climbing monkey last night, wasn't he?

Posted by: Cindy | January 23, 2007 4:42 PM | Report abuse

F the State of disunion. Rather than watch Bush continue to butcher the English languge, and weave more lies, I would rather watch the Wiz....at least they have a chance to win.

Posted by: k Squared | January 23, 2007 4:42 PM | Report abuse

All I know is that "Mike and Mike in the Morning" has got to be the worst show of all time....

Posted by: chris Larry | January 23, 2007 03:58 PM


YES, YES, YES....you are correct. Mike Golic is the most annoying buffoon i have ever heard/seen

Posted by: TM | January 23, 2007 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Cindy | January 23, 2007 4:46 PM | Report abuse

boobs

Posted by: Anonymous | January 23, 2007 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Are you refering to the Tuna's Boobs??

Posted by: 4th | January 23, 2007 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Manboobs Hall of Fame:

Grillimas
Tuna

any other nominations?

Posted by: chris Larry | January 23, 2007 4:58 PM | Report abuse

boobs

Posted by: Anonymous | January 23, 2007 4:59 PM | Report abuse

I think it might be a great coup if the Skins can hire Parcells as a GM. But he'll never be able to get along w/ the Danny, and talk about too many chefs in the kitchen (Gibbs and Parcells). But one thing the Tuna has been able to do well is evaluate talent. If it would only work if Gibbs was gone (heaven forbid).

Posted by: Hatetosaythisbut... | January 23, 2007 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Weiss

Posted by: 4th | January 23, 2007 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Ralph Friedgen
Charlie Weis

Posted by: Boobs Hall of Fame | January 23, 2007 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Rick Majerus

Posted by: Anonymous | January 23, 2007 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Not football related, but Phil Mickelson has got a fine pair of C cups.

Posted by: k Squared | January 23, 2007 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Nice work!

Posted by: chris Larry | January 23, 2007 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Jason Alexander...in the shrinkage episode.

Nice cans.

Posted by: k Squared | January 23, 2007 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Jenna Jameson

Posted by: Anonymous | January 23, 2007 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Andy Reid

Posted by: 4th | January 23, 2007 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Mike Holmgren has a fine pair of knockers.

Posted by: SMACK | January 23, 2007 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Jason La Canfora

Posted by: Anonymous | January 23, 2007 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Leave JLC out of this, jackass.

Respect the blog. Unnamed posts are for retards. Grab your helmet, tighten up the chinstrap, get on the short bus, and get the f out.

Posted by: k Squared | January 23, 2007 5:22 PM | Report abuse

What was the Guy's name from the Super Heavyweight Division...

Buttercup?

Posted by: 4th | January 23, 2007 5:22 PM | Report abuse

As I approach the ancient age of 35, I am sad to report that I, too, am beginning to develop the ol' man boobs. It really comes down to whether I do an extra thirty minutes on the treadmill and cut one martini per day, or do an extra thirty minutes of drinking and cut one treadmill per day.

These are the decisions that try men's souls.

Posted by: P Diddy | January 23, 2007 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Butterbean.

Posted by: k Squared | January 23, 2007 5:24 PM | Report abuse

re: 24
Spoiler Alert!!!!

am i the only one that was kind disappointed when jack's father didn't turn out to be Donald Sutherland?

ummmmm where's kim? i miss her acting.

jack looks like he's on nicole-richie-diet

foreshadowing of the week: chloe to the brit: "why do people around me keep dying?"

re: jack being a monkey: what was the point of that????

line of the episode:
jack: (head of ctu), i need bla bla bla
head of ctu: i thought you were out?
jack: not after this.
head of ctu: okay.

wow! diddy, you ever feel you could do that?

diddy: i need a penthouse, 7 women, a stocked wine sellar, season tickets to xxxx, floor seats to xxxx....
gates: i thought you quit?
diddy: not after this! (launch of iphone)
gates: okay...

Posted by: dealer | January 23, 2007 5:24 PM | Report abuse

I also have to ask: what is the big deal about a radio show? People still listen to the radio?

Posted by: P Diddy | January 23, 2007 5:27 PM | Report abuse

dealer, I've been threatening to quit for 6 years now :-) As it turns out, my mentor and first manager here has been threatening for nearly as long as well. The general consensus is that we're both just going to die in our office chairs.

That said, I really do honestly hopefully perhaps maybe intend to pull the trigger in June. Maybe.

I've found that once you no longer care about being fired, you actually do your best work. In that way, it's a lot like Office Space post-hypnosis.

I suppose that should be a lesson for everything from dating to careers to negotiating for a car. I call it the "scorched Earth" philosophy. Damn the consequences, blow everything up!

Posted by: P Diddy | January 23, 2007 5:32 PM | Report abuse

what is the big deal about a radio show? People still listen to the radio?

diddy, are you fcking kidding? i think that's the northwest talking in you.

the average commute over here is like hour and a half. most people still driving to work...and washington post radio is one of those things that make you say "why didn't they do this like 50 years ago?"...it's really that good...unless you're into fair and unbalanced BS...

you might suggest ipods? i don't know about anyone else but i can't stand listening to recorded stuff. i want to stay connected as much as possible. i don't know why...i just need to know when shti goes down i guess...

Posted by: dealer | January 23, 2007 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Thanks to the internets, everyone listens to the radio....

I was hoping for Donald Sutherland, too. And the Chloe line infuriated me. "Um, they die so that the show won't be four minutes long."
Why did Jack have to save the guy in the helicopter? The other guy was kinda girlie.
Jack's father ran out of the house without his cell phone? Huh? In LA? And why is traffic never an issue for Jack Bauer?

Posted by: Cindy | January 23, 2007 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Did you see Jack shinny up that post to save the guy in the helicopter? He looked like Blutarsky at the end of "Animal House."

Posted by: Cindy | January 23, 2007 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Tim Goodman on "24:"
(photo is priceless)

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/indexn?blogid=24

Posted by: Cindy | January 23, 2007 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Jack's father ran out of the house without his cell phone?

cindy, i think that was the clue to jack that something is wrong. also is the fact that jack is interrogating his brother suppose to make us think that he's got his mojo back that the CHINESE somehow suppressed in him?

traffic? in LA? now you just want too much reality! cuz i don't know if you know this but the show is done by "real time productions" which means...

Posted by: dealer | January 23, 2007 5:41 PM | Report abuse

I was totally rooting for the cougar to dispense Kim like a Pez a few years back.

Posted by: Cindy | January 23, 2007 5:43 PM | Report abuse

also, i can't beleeeeeeeee you guys don't know "ron howard" aka jack's brother...

he was the dude that "killed" robo cop!!! c'mon people!!!!!!

robo cop being the best movie ever! duh!

and kids, if you haven't seen robo cop RENT IT!

Posted by: dealer | January 23, 2007 5:47 PM | Report abuse

cindy, you're mean. wouldn't it be funny if they replaced "Kim" with someone else...like they did on Rosanne ('s) elder daughter...with the girl that's on Scrubs...

Posted by: dealer | January 23, 2007 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Or with Jack's "nephew," whom you totally know is his son!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Cindy | January 23, 2007 5:53 PM | Report abuse

I suppose I stand corrected on the radio thing. I'm just 100% iPod, 100% of the time. And I stay connected by reading this blog. Apparently there is an epidemic of man boobs in this country. I wonder if President Bush will propose a nationwide moratorium on man boobs during his little shindig tonight.

And Cindy and dealer's comments about Jack's dad and the cell phone are priceless.

Going through Oscar noms now...looks like the "impartial" Academy stacked the deck to get Scorsese his first bald gold dude.

Posted by: P Diddy | January 23, 2007 5:57 PM | Report abuse

k squared come correct brutha...nice!

P diddy...i feel ya on the pushing 35 front....triple ugh!

Posted by: chris Larry | January 23, 2007 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Quick social commentary. I started occasional telecommuting about 10-12 years. I live and work in Maryland for a large corporation. About five years, there was a major reorganization, after which I have a boss in NYC, and his boss is in Boston. I have a real office in Baltimore, but live in northern Harford County. I have gradually switched to full time telecommuting. I do not miss the one way, hour long commute.

Most days I only interact with coworkers via email, IMs, and conference calls. There is no face-to-face contact and no "water cooler" time. Then the RI came along. In the office in Baltimore, there were no skins fans, and I only heard disparaging comments about the skins. Now, I feel I have a group of "blog friends" who are skins fans to boot. I do not post comments very often, but I do enjoy reading the comments of others. I do not get most of the musical references, because my formative music years were in the early 60s (motown, smokey robinson, the english invasion, bob dylan, etc).

Anyhow, this is my two cents on how the internet and this blog have made the work days more enjoyable.

For Mr. Diddy, some days are very quiet, and radio on the internet makes the days more pleasent. I most certainly will listen to TK on Wapo radio.

My best to all, from the east coast to the west coast.

Posted by: Mark | January 23, 2007 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Well said Mark...precisely the reason I'm here as well. And, like I said before, the off-topic conversations are really fun.

Posted by: P Diddy | January 23, 2007 6:02 PM | Report abuse

You guys up for blogging with Wilbon and Tony on Super Bowl Sunday?

Posted by: Cindy | January 23, 2007 6:04 PM | Report abuse

"Dead or alive, you're coming with me."

"Your move, creep"

Posted by: P Diddy | January 23, 2007 6:06 PM | Report abuse

I'm in for Wilbon and TK. Although I may be at a bar and slightly intoxicated. But, as it turns out, I'm quite charming when I'm drunk. Irresistable, really.

Posted by: P Diddy | January 23, 2007 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Sure! sounds like a gas! Will Wilbon even be coherent in his fan lust?

Posted by: chris Larry | January 23, 2007 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Are you going to hype on washpo.com? Because if you do, all those crazy PTI fanboys will show up and turn it into sillines...

Posted by: P Diddy | January 23, 2007 6:16 PM | Report abuse

And the urge to deconstruct Mr. Tony live is certainly competing with my innate urge -- more like a passion -- to never watch Live TV again. I suppose this is the one day a year when watching commercials is almost as important as the spectacle itself...

Posted by: cload and daggar | January 23, 2007 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Will someone explain why the NHL All-Star game is on a Wednesday this year?

My really nice ex is down in Dallas, in a suite schmoozing bigwhigs for her work, and has an extra ticket for me. Sadly, I actually have to go to work on Thursday morning and can't make it.

BTW, I didn't even know they still played NHL hockey until she called this morning. I figured all that jazz about JLaC going to Caps' practices and such was just wishful thinking. Obviously, playing the All-Star game in the middle of the week is indicative of where the NHL is these days: cellar-dwelling misfits on the sports landscape.

Posted by: P Diddy | January 23, 2007 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Cindy, I'm most likely IN for the SB blog chat thingaroo. And that will be the case whether it's "just" us or if there are special guests. TK + Wilbon would be awesome, don't get me wrong.

Could it be separate from the RI blog so we can retreat to our sanctum sanctorum if things get out of hand, as Diddy suggests?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | January 23, 2007 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Let's hijack Cillizza's blog! Those commenters are crazy!

Posted by: P Diddy | January 23, 2007 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Jack's dad's manservant. Also: Misunderstood visionary

LMAO Cyn Cyty that photo was just wrong.

k Squared thanks for stepping up bra. And I sure Lisa is happy because it didn't involve any smacks. lol

Posted by: jm220 | January 23, 2007 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Anyone have a summary of the President's speech tonight? I really want to take a nap, but fee as if it's my civic duty to watch him try and learn the English language.

Posted by: P Diddy | January 23, 2007 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Not sure yet if it can be separate from RI....We're still working it out.

Posted by: Cindy | January 23, 2007 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Bad news....from the AP

Men wanting to know if it's OK to iron jeans or hug their friends will have to wait for answers. Miller Brewing Co. has put its popular "Man Laws" ads on hold while it goes back to comparing Miller Lite to competitors' beer in a new spot.
As popular as the ads with Burt Reynolds and sports figures have been, they fell victim to the first rule of advertising: They didn't sufficiently boost sales of Miller's flagship product in the still-expanding light beer category to justify extending the campaign.
"The competition has intensified within the segment so we've made a decision to transition to point out how and why Miller is different from the others," said Pete Marino, spokesman for the Milwaukee-based brewer. Nearly half of Miller's sales come from Miller Lite.
Sales of Miller Lite have lagged in the past year while the light beer segment, which now accounts for more than half of all beer sales, continues to grow, according to Eric Shepard, executive editor of trade publication Beer Marketer's Insights.

Posted by: Cindy | January 23, 2007 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Joe Gibbs 2 year old grandson has been diagnosed with leukemia.

Posted by: Lisa | January 23, 2007 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Okay, open the flood gates... speaking of presidential speaches... who is worse at those things? Wayne Palmer or George W. Bush?? Good grief that was painful.

Jack Bauer has a screwed up personal life. I'm going to go back and look through all of yesterdays rants on our favorite widowering, drug using, womanizing, law breaking/bending all american patriot. At the end of the day, Jack Bauer gets results.

Posted by: Dorf | January 23, 2007 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Dorf,


I am hoping that Jack hooks back up with his brother's wife. She is hot and hell you know he is going to kill him. So what the hell.

Posted by: jm220 | January 23, 2007 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Cindy, a suggestion for the Super Bowl: a 'double post move' that even Carlos Rogers could appreciate.

You guys can put up a new thread shortly before gametime, clearly labeled as the Kornheiser & Wilbon guest blog, collecting questions, posting their comments, and so forth. We 'regulars' can continue whatever conversations we like on the immediately preceding thread.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | January 23, 2007 7:17 PM | Report abuse

President Goatee looked like he was going to cry last night. It was a sad moment. At this rate, when he retires, he'll have to settle for hawking GEICO.

Jack Bauer gets results. Couldn't agree more.

BTW, I was at the W Seattle bar one night when he was in town here. He has always been that tiny. But he's still Jack Bauer. From what I understand, he paid a member of the hotel staff in the morning to make sure the girl in his room got home safe. That's the Power of Bauer.

While on that topic...the W Seattle is the worst of all the W Hotels. The bar sucks, the vibe sucks, and the location is by no means cool or interesting. I've stayed at all of them (and even have a special congratulatory letter to that effect).

Posted by: P Diddy | January 23, 2007 7:19 PM | Report abuse

jm- me thinks bluetooth McBauer is going to kill his wife but before he does she admits that the boy is her and Jack's love child. Jack gets no play, but ultimately gains a son. Only Jack Bauer... oh yeah, i try not to toot my own horn too much but the 217 joke was mine. Self esteem was a little low and needed some credit. Its better than wearing no clothes and starving myself right?

Can we get some more Nadia up in that piece? Seriously, that episode lacked big time.

Posted by: Dorf | January 23, 2007 7:44 PM | Report abuse

You guys up for blogging with Wilbon and Tony on Super Bowl Sunday?

i love both. TK the most. but SB has become a tradition of sort up here at the dealer mansion. and i can't think of a way to incorporate this blog with "the SB thing @ the dealers" so i'm going to have to say no. lisa, i've thought about inviting you but we don't drink. it's purely a football thing. hmmmm i guess jm could come?

not to "kick them(pti) out" but don't they belong at Maske's? (nflinsder)

but as others have suggested you'll get LOTS of people. it'll be a hit. especially with wilbon being a doom-n-gloom chicago fan.

lisa, that's really sad about gibbs grandson. it's always been my favorite part of hearing gibbs talk when he talks about his grandkids and his face just lights up and radiates with joy. i'll pray for the little dude. not too long ago my friend passed away suddenly from this stupid but deadly disease...he was only 30...

Posted by: dealer | January 23, 2007 8:03 PM | Report abuse

The Wiz are getting absolutely TORCHED by the Suns....it's painful to watch....

Posted by: Lisa | January 23, 2007 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Can we get some more Nadia up in that piece? Seriously, that episode lacked big time.

Dorf I am with you on that one brother. And put her in some tight leather pants. (oh did I say that out loud lol) And yes you get credit for 217 joke. Classic

dealer thanks for invite. But come on you got to let Lisa come. She is slim,smart,funny, loves sports there isn't much more to much more a brother can ask for. (I hope she has long hair)

Thoughts and prayers go out to Coach Joe grandson. As well as your friends family Dealer.

Posted by: jm220 | January 23, 2007 8:13 PM | Report abuse

diddy, have you ever stayed at the Waldorf in NYC? we have those mileage thingies...and can stay for free but is it worth it? what do you get there that you couldn't at a regular Hilton?

re: W? thanks for the info. i don't get that kinda cheesy shti anyway...i want a big ass suite with a nice big bath ROOM and a view and some good food(room service at ANYTIME of the night/day), that's my ideal hotel/room. btw, stay the FCUK out of cabo! IT'S ALL HYPE!!!! for at least 20 more years till they fcking figure out how to get some fresh food in that hell hole. yes, we went everywhere and tried everything, cheap, expensive, authentic, taco bell...all the same, bland, tasteless food. beautiful scenery though. and 120 feels like 90. but it's just not worth it.
wow! what a fcking tangent i went on...

Posted by: dealer | January 23, 2007 8:16 PM | Report abuse

I imagine the Cowboys haters out there are excited about this news, eh?

Not really, now they'll probably get some young hotshot who will really torch us.

Frankly he just look depressed all season long. I'm totally not surprised by him "quitting", but I seriously doubt we've seen the last of him.

Posted by: Megskin | January 23, 2007 8:18 PM | Report abuse

I love, love, love the W. All I care about is great service, big bathrooms, and lots of teevee channels. The domestic W's have all three covered. The international W's have the first two.

This NHL "YoungStars" game is stupid.

Posted by: P Diddy | January 23, 2007 8:24 PM | Report abuse

jm, "let lisa come"....ummmmmm dude! i said that cuz i'm afraid lisa wouldn't have fun. since our SB thingie doesn't have any alcohol, food=chicken wings/pizza, shrimp cocktail. drinks=everything virgin, coke, sprite (the dealer mansion is a pepsi free zone)
BUT BUT i do have a nice toy, 62 inch widescreen HD (DLP, yes, diddy it's the MEEE-ERRRR-SSS!)

Posted by: dealer | January 23, 2007 8:25 PM | Report abuse

God, I hate that "meeeerrsss" girl.

Posted by: P Diddy | January 23, 2007 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Nate, the double post move is sheer genius that could only be capped by double move himself showing up to post on the wrong thread. How awesome would that be?

Adam

Posted by: EaglesFan | January 23, 2007 8:27 PM | Report abuse

I'm pretty sure "Vs." isn't really a television network.

Posted by: P Diddy | January 23, 2007 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Hey there. Definitely still plan to take Chloe to some Caps practices after the All Star break.
it's crazy, I haven't covered the Red Wings since 1999 and I last covered the Caps in 2004, but there are more dudes I know in the Wings locker room today than in the Caps; Washington's roster has turned over that much.
Alwasy great to catch up with Olie, but I was actually tighter with Witt and Halpern.
A lot of great dudes on that team over the years. Actually, NHL players are a gold mine.

Posted by: Jason La Canfora | January 23, 2007 9:08 PM | Report abuse

I have to give W a lot of props for the way he opened this speech. Very classy. And a shout out to B-more in the process.
It's been a long time since I wanted to lob a compliment at the prez, but that was a nice move.

Posted by: Jason La Canfora | January 23, 2007 9:15 PM | Report abuse

guys i don't know if you've heard this but apparently Sean Salisbury of ESPN football thingmajiggie was suspended by espn for ONE week this fall for taking a picture of his tool with his cellphone and going around the espn "campus" showing women his ickd...
what a tool!

i don't know if i can take him on by myself but with your help jm i'm sure we could kick his ass and...show him a thing or two...

funny story(actually didn't read it but the pics and tagline looked funny) with pics

Posted by: dealer | January 23, 2007 9:16 PM | Report abuse

dealer, don't leave me out! I'm not a drinker....what makes you think I won't have fun without booze? And I love football as much as you guys (probably more!)

jm, I do have long hair - but I desperately need a haircut.

dealer, if that's true about Salisbury, that's just sick :-) Not too surprising though because I think he does like to drink a bit.

Posted by: Lisa | January 23, 2007 9:23 PM | Report abuse

jason, i was by the water by the 14th st. bridge a couple of hours ago trolling around in the dark doing what could be perceived as a terrorist activity and completely forgot that it was his big night...otherwise i wouldn't have been doing what i was doing where i was doing it :)....and next thing i see is blue lights headed right towards me(from the water)...and kinda paniced a little...dumb dumb dumb very dumb thing to do...and if something had happened the headline would've been "the biggest idiot gets shot and we're not talking about the prez".

Posted by: dealer | January 23, 2007 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Lisa, I love to drink, but I never act like a moron to women, or anyone, in a bar.

If ESPN treated Salisbury like any major corporation would treat one of its employees, they would fire him immediately. It took them forever to get around to firing Harold Reynolds for similar behavior. It's simply unacceptable in the workplace.

My company reportedly got rid of its VP of HR for similar behavior, and Boeing did the same for its CEO.

Posted by: P Diddy | January 23, 2007 9:39 PM | Report abuse

OK I really have a blog crush on Lisa now. lol

i don't know if i can take him on by myself but with your help jm i'm sure we could kick his ass and...show him a thing or two...

Dealer you know how we do. (chris tucker voice from Friday)

Posted by: jm220 | January 23, 2007 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Watching the State of the Union on TiVo delay...agree JLaC, I wholeheartedly agree. Great opening to the speech.

Posted by: P Diddy | January 23, 2007 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Back to football for a minute. Why doesn't anyone suggest Adalius Thomas or Dwight Freeney or Lance Briggs as possible FA acquisitions for the Skins. I don't mean all but at least one. Freeney or Thomas would help the pass rush which would in turn help the pass coverage. Briggs would replace that fool Holdman.

Posted by: LH | January 23, 2007 10:06 PM | Report abuse

LH,

Adalius Thomas, Dwight Freeney and Lance Briggs have all been mentioned as possible free agents for the Skins....maybe not on this blog but I have read about it in other places. Understand the Colts will not part with Freeney - even if they have to franchise him.

diddy, a man was fired at my job (long ago) because he was looking at porn online at work (that's what we heard). Needless to say, I panicked when I accidentally stumbled upon a porn site at work. Ran to our IT guy to tell him that it was so not intentional....he laughed and said "yeah...right."

Posted by: Lisa | January 23, 2007 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Two things that struck me about the speech

1. Nary a mention of New Orleans anywhere in it
2. How anyone can possibly square President Bush's statement that "our commitment in Iraq is not unending" with this op-ed piece espousing the neo-cons' Iraqi position

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/22/AR2007012201103.html

Clearly, at least one of these two groups of people is feeding me a bunch of shti

Adam

Posted by: EaglesFan | January 23, 2007 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Loved Senator Webb's response.

Posted by: P Diddy | January 23, 2007 11:00 PM | Report abuse

BTW, I TiVo'ed both the HDNet and NBC broadcasts. NBC is my fave because I love Tim Russert. HDNet is great because the picture is so clear.

Anyway, HDNet was hosted by Dan Rather and Tom Oliphant. It was notable, because unlike all the pretty boy (and girl) networks, HDNet chose the two ugliest old white men in America. Huzzah, I say! Just like this weekend's football games was a victory for the Fat Guys, HDNet coverage was a victory for the Ugly Guys. Between football and politics, I've got all my aging, sagging bases covered.

Posted by: P Diddy | January 23, 2007 11:03 PM | Report abuse

BTW, trying not to post on the newer, solemn, respectful thread...

Lookie! The team is desperate:
http://www.redskins.com/tickets/article.jsp?id=19918

Posted by: P Diddy | January 23, 2007 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Ah El Presidente was . . . . well actually generally unimpressive speech. Great beginning - go speech writers and go Nancy P.!! Got a little misty eyed watching the scene with her there makes imagining Hilary or Obama or Richardson standing there much easier.
Jim Webb absolutely lit it up with the Dems response one of the best political speeches I've seen in a long time that wasn't campaign related. And thank the gods he mentioned NOLA unlike El Presidente.
AIDs in Africa, malaria, nookular weapons, math and science but nada on New Orleas - for shame sir for shame.

Okay fubol - um I think Oakland hired the JV coach from my high school and he's like 22 should be whizbang of a year for them.

I think Billy P. is done in the coaches ranks. He'll probably become another high paid consultant like Billy W. Well except Oakland all of them will always have Oakland as an option.

Russ G. going to the Cards could be his walk down the red carpet to a waiting Redskins One in a couple years. Oh please oh please oh please.

I've asked about Thomas for the Skins in some long ago thread I think. Why not?

TK and Wilbon for the Superbowl? Absolutely! All you who say you'll be elsewhere know that the siren call of the Insider cannot be resisted. I do think the separate thread idea is a good one.

Posted by: sfskin | January 24, 2007 1:25 AM | Report abuse

I apologize for the verbal vomit above. The server was down all day at work so not only did I have the shakes from withdrawl but I had to catch up.

Hey I know we were at 26k a couple days ago. Dare I throw down the gauntlet to get to 30k on SB? If we were truly crazy we'd aim for 41k to honor the XLI that'd require overtime and some serious garbage posts . . . like this one.

Posted by: sfskin | January 24, 2007 1:29 AM | Report abuse

sfskin, totally agree on Grimm. The prodigal son returns!

Posted by: P Diddy | January 24, 2007 1:34 AM | Report abuse

Final thought for the night as laundry is now done and I can go to bed. Am I the only sick bastrad who googled man boobs? Well someone had to right? Surprisingly it didn't go straight to porn.

There are some disturbing photos on several sites. My favorite site as far as names go is
http://www.how-to-get-rid-of-man-boobs.com/

And then there is this priceless quote from TheSite.org:
Man boobs
Growing breasts was never part of the plan. So, a blooming bosom can be a big concern for young men going through puberty. In some cases, often later in life, it can also be a sign that something is wrong.

I know I should be institutionalized.

Posted by: sfskin | January 24, 2007 1:41 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | January 24, 2007 1:41 AM | Report abuse

BTW, the WashPo's article on Senator Webb's response (which I've since watched three times and still adore greatly) is shameful. It is more or less the same article written prior to the State of the Union address. Before and in anticipation of his speech, Webb was described in the online article as "pugnacious". After the speech, the same adjective is reused. The media has "branded" Webb as "pugnacious", so no matter how honest, direct, forthright, or significant his speeches or accomplishments, he will forever be described by a pejorative adjective. I'm ashamed of the political editors at the Post. Booo!

Webb has more at stake than nearly everyone else in high office in this country. To disrespect him in this manner is uncalled for. After the clarity, lucidity, and sincereity of his "rebuttal", I will be watching this man much more closely than before. He may have the cojones we desperately need.

As for the blog...I'm proud that folks are respecting the newer thread the way it should be.

Posted by: P Diddy | January 24, 2007 1:41 AM | Report abuse

Just re-read the final version of the WashPo's article on Senator Webb, and I have to provide a mea culpa. The word "pugnacious", and all but the silly and extraneous reference to HDTV and makeup are absent from the original version.

Posted by: P Diddy | January 24, 2007 1:46 AM | Report abuse

Thank you for the informative link.

Posted by: Coach Man Boobs | January 24, 2007 9:38 AM | Report abuse

I think you can strongly disagree with someone without being combatative. I think Webb's tone overly agressive and that pugnacious was a fitting description of it.

Perhaps that was Webbs intent.

Now you see you've got me talking politics now. Bah.


Question, other than Grimm are there any other old redskins out there coaching at or near the coordinator level?

Posted by: Skinz | January 24, 2007 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Webb deserves the praise. He laid the smack down on the Bush administration's many failures and his tone was appropriate.
(no matter what, the media would find a way to criticize... If he used passive words, the media would have labled him a weak liberal)
Webb's response gave me reassurance that the democrats are determined enough to make the changes this country desperately needs.

If only someone within the Redskins administration could give me the same hope that the 'stay the course' strategy will be strongly challenged, I could sleep better at night.

Posted by: Diesel | January 24, 2007 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Apparently, Todd Bowels is out there. He probably would have been the next D-coordinator in Dallas if the fat man didn't quit... he may still get the coordinator job there, but it depends on who perma-tan face lift posterboy J. Jones brings in.

Posted by: Diesel | January 24, 2007 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Todd Bowels? That is the funniest misspelling up here since the "Polina/Pollian" double-move debacle perpetrated by J-La.

"Bowels Moving in Dallas"

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | January 24, 2007 11:46 AM | Report abuse

SMACK, 4th, definitely interested in hearing a Wiz game/blog meeting report when you guys get a chance.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | January 24, 2007 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Back to 24 for a minute. I don't think many people caught LBB's comment to Jack. "I thought you were still in China?" Remember Jack was "dead" last year so how would LBB know where Jack was? That put the power of Bauer in action.

Posted by: james63k | January 24, 2007 12:02 PM | Report abuse

I am actually waiting for a new post (while working my guts out up here)...

If JLaC dosen't post anything new by the time I take lunch while give my version. A lot happened last night on my end at least.....

Posted by: 4th | January 24, 2007 12:03 PM | Report abuse

JAmes63K - Every knew JAck was in China, it wasn't a secret by that point....

Posted by: 4th | January 24, 2007 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Clarification - Jack was 'dead' in season 4. Season 5 was taken by Chinese at the end.

Posted by: 4th | January 24, 2007 12:16 PM | Report abuse

4th, I respectfully disagree. Last season ended with Jack getting whacked right after he saved the world. Before that only the people within CTU and upper echelons of the government knew Jack was still around.

Posted by: james63k | January 24, 2007 12:19 PM | Report abuse

LBB was in the know... he had responsibility in BBP's death as well as Tony's, Michelle's and almost Chloe's... Jack was forced out of hiding for the day which was probably long enough for enough people to know he was still alive... I mean come, CTU doesn't have its mess together... every year they let some Benedict Arnolding terror monkey work at CTU, you think they'd be able to cover up his fake death?? The Bauer family seems to be in that upper echelon from the looks of it.

Besides, we don't know enough about Jack's relationship with his brother to make inferences on those things. Jack knew his brother was lying to him from the get-go.

wait, what are we arguing about?

Posted by: Dorf | January 24, 2007 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Well had I known that 4th had all that stuff on his mind, I would have left him alone. But somehow, the referee tossed up the ball for the opening tip, and when it came down the score was 127-0. So I figured I'd ditch my hot-dog scarfing friends and pay a fellow blogger a visit. I knew his section and row, and that he'd be sitting with his son, so 4th was pretty easy to spot. So I waited for the Wizards to inexplicably throw the ball out of bounds, which took about 4 seconds, and then said to 4th "are you 4th floor?", and he says, "Section 424". So I mentioned the Redskins Insider, and then I think he figured I was not, in fact, a crazy deranged person. So we just shook hands and I took off because, after all, the man was with his son.

As for the game, the Suns and Steve Nash just play a different kind of ball. The Wiz need to unload Jamison and whoever it takes to get an athletic big man like Kevin Garnett up there.

Posted by: SMACK | January 24, 2007 12:29 PM | Report abuse

You have a good point and I think it is the writers fault for not connecting the dots too good. His daughter knew as she came to CTU w/ her Boyfriend/phsychologiist. Outside of that, no one really knew outside of the Government.

But, LBB said he and his father tried to do everything they could to get him out of China. So, I guess somewhere down the line they made it public knowledge.

Now that I wrote what I wrote, it dosen't make sense..

According to BBP in Season 4, he told JAck if he got caught breaking in to the consulate, he would be on his own and could not implicate the US Gov. So, Jack being a prisoner would not be acknowledged by the government, including not telling family members you haven't spoke to since your wife's funeral in season 1.

I stand corrected James63K. You are on the ball. Please make sure to jump in anytime 24 related, save for the hours of 10pm - 1 am EST (the REAL US Time) on Mondays due to our West Coast RI peps.

Posted by: 4th | January 24, 2007 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Thanks 4th. Not trying to prove anyone wrong I just thought it was an interesting twist whether intentional or not. I have been reading this blog for some time and really enjoy all the post and personalities. Keep it up. Long Live Bauer and the Skins.

Posted by: james63k | January 24, 2007 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Ok, since SMACK gave his side, I'll give mine......

We got to the game at Half time due to my daughter running a high fever. I wouldn't have left, but my wife was handling the situation and my son really wanted to go to the game. So I figure we can for at least the half.

I get to section 424, Row G (which was prob the best seats in the section) and I find 2 Jackets in OUR seats. FYI - If you are not sitting in your seat, you better take your stuff with you when you go get something to eat because you might run in to me. So, I double check the seats and YES, these are OUR seats. SO, I take the jackets and stuff them in some random chair above me not caring because I had my daughter on my mind, we are late, finding free parking was hard, etc, etc. AND, I didn't know if I had to knock somebody down the steps if they had beef with my roughing my seats. This lady comes up and kinda stares at me. I'm like, "was you sitting here? Well these are OUR seats and I moved YOUR stuff to some empty chair in another row"

I didn't know who she was with, so I was kind of hyped. Then see this dude with a 'Science Daily' Jacket on staring in my direction one minute later. I assumed automatically that maybe he was her companion. So I was still hyped, and he says '4th Floor'? I'm like 'what' in my head? I say 'Section 424?'. He says 'I'm SMACK' and I'm like O O O in my head (4th Floor, that's me! DOH! He told me earlier he was wearing a 'Science Daily' jacket, DOH!). So we shake hands. I prob didn't look too approachable at the time so that's why I really you stepped off SMACK.
I apologize for that, but I'm sure you can understand from what I was going through....

Looking back on it, I am LOL right now.

Posted by: 4th | January 24, 2007 12:54 PM | Report abuse

4th I hope your little one is doing better today. You got to laugh at yourself sometimes brother.

Jack was killed at the end of season 4. At the end of season 5 is smack in the back of his head taken to a ship that was going to China.

Posted by: jm220 | January 24, 2007 1:25 PM | Report abuse

I think it's funny that someone mentioned 24's "writers". I adore the show, love it to death. But I am under no pretense that there is anything resembling "writing" going on in those production meetings. I think it's a bunch of 13 year old boys and girls at heart coming up with crazier ways to blow stuff up, without any appreciation for continuity or storytelling.

Not that there's anything at all wrong with that. It's exactly why I love the show. One hour a week (well, two, if you count "Grey's"), I get to turn my brain off and stop questioning authority or searching for answers.

Posted by: P Diddy | January 24, 2007 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Has Jack met Nadia yet?

Posted by: Dorf | January 24, 2007 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Naw dorf.

I know no one has said it, but NAdia is alright. But, she dosen't seem to have a figure. Just a pretty face. I need curves and meat in my life...

Thanks for your thoughts JM220. I appreciate it....

Posted by: 4th | January 24, 2007 1:53 PM | Report abuse

I confess I've not had time to watch Le Jacques Bauer from this week yet so I can't contribute but don't worry I will and as usual it will be some 10 days after all of you have moved on. And as usual you all will humor me thanks guys.

jmCII - The summer is always in flux until Marchish but in terms of NOLA last week of June is probably best for me. Please make plans as best suits everyone else and if I can make it I'll be there with a hammer and I'll hammer in the morning and I'll hammer in evening all over this land. . .

Posted by: sfskin | January 24, 2007 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Don't worry 4th, she'll have something to do with a mole plot in the near future... but if you are right, and she is just a pretty face... Jack will probably end up killing her somehow.

Posted by: Dorf | January 24, 2007 1:58 PM | Report abuse

I need curves and meat in my life...

4th as I tell my boy all the time. Small women need loving too. lol

sfskin I spoke with Scott the other day it June seems to work for him as well. I am going to get something together and JLC is going to post it so we can get an idea of when is the best time.

Posted by: jm220 | January 24, 2007 2:01 PM | Report abuse

sfskin, dusting off my Latin skills, I believe jm220 translates to jmCCXX. :)

Posted by: Mark | January 24, 2007 2:07 PM | Report abuse

"Asked if he might ever consider working for his son, Bucs defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin said, "I don't know if that'll ever happen. But if I'm working for him, I'll remind him I'm still your dad.""

Posted by: 4th Floor via SP Times | January 24, 2007 2:08 PM | Report abuse

I think having a minor conversation about off topic things is great but don't take over the entire blog. Normally I don't care but it took me 5 minutes to scan the page.

Go start a blog somewhere and link it here for all to go talk about that man soap opera and it's overracting star.

Posted by: Seriously | January 24, 2007 2:09 PM | Report abuse

If there was ever a former Redskin who demonstrated true core values on a daily basis by fighting/playing/competing his guts out, it was Todd Bowels.

Posted by: Anonymous | January 24, 2007 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, let's talk Redskins all the time. Great idea!
We've been here since August and I think its fair to say we've covered most topics relating to the Redskins Insider... what are you scanning the page for? When relevant things pop up, we're on it... but the loyals here have built a pretty good "family" here and don't mind the off topics...

go to extremeskins or visit BLloyd's website if you're tired of our shabingi

Posted by: Dorf | January 24, 2007 2:14 PM | Report abuse

On the other hand, a former Redskins player who later joins the Cowgirls as a coach might be considered a Bowels movement.

Posted by: Anonymous | January 24, 2007 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Or a cowpaddy.

Posted by: Anonymous | January 24, 2007 2:22 PM | Report abuse

LOL NO ANY SKINI PLAYER/COACH WHO LATER GOES ON TO THE ALL-MIGHTY COWBOYS JUST REALIZES THE ERRORS OF THEIR WAYS, WISE UP, AND COME ON DOWN TO AMERICA'S TEAM. COWBOYS #1!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | January 24, 2007 2:29 PM | Report abuse

I would like to take this opportunity to let the Insider community know that I will not be seeking the presidency in 2008.

Posted by: Jeff Hayes | January 24, 2007 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Maybe we should talk about how Double G has to go? Or how they need a new GM? Or how they should bench Brunello? Or which free agents they should overpay for? Or what they should do with a draft pick they'll likely squander anyway? Or what they should do with Archuleta?

There isn't much left to pick over on the dead carcass that is the Washington Redskins football franchise. And belaboring it is depressing.

Jack Bauer, meanwhile, well, there's a lot of stuff there. If you put Kiefer Sutherland next to a potted plant, the plant would likely look more menacing. It's shocking that a man so dainty and fragile can become an action hero on television.

Posted by: P Diddy | January 24, 2007 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Jeff Hayes, did you consult your friends and advisors? Have you elected to spend more time with your family? Have you determined that you could best serve your country by remaining at the used car dealership?

Posted by: P Diddy | January 24, 2007 2:34 PM | Report abuse

And now that there's a Soccer Insider, I have to take my DC United and Arsenal love over there. Man I hate gettin' busted by the blog police. Lighten up dude, even the Grinch brought back the presents.

Posted by: SMACK | January 24, 2007 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Do they play the World Cup every year?

Posted by: P Diddy | January 24, 2007 2:38 PM | Report abuse

You kids get outta my yard!!!

Posted by: Seriously | January 24, 2007 2:40 PM | Report abuse

With president's day around the corner, the dealership needs me now. I appreciate your understanding.

Posted by: Jeff Hayes | January 24, 2007 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Well, while we're off-topic.... "If Chicago wins Super Bow(e)l XLI, Rex Grosmman is the worst QB to get a ring. Discuss"

Posted by: Redcoat | January 24, 2007 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Diddy, take that damn eurotrash soccer talk over where it belongs!

Posted by: SMACK | January 24, 2007 2:46 PM | Report abuse

If Rex wins, is Roethlisberger's 22.6 lowest rating for a winner be in danger? The way I see it, Chicago have a chance of winning if all Sexy Rexy does is take a knee every time the have offensive possession and then punt it away on 4th down.

Posted by: Redcoat | January 24, 2007 2:47 PM | Report abuse

There used to be a punter on the Redskins roster named Jeff Hayes. It was in the early 1980s, I think.

Posted by: Ricky | January 24, 2007 2:50 PM | Report abuse

David Woodley is the worst. My family are Dolphins fans, so we trucked out to Pasadena for that Dolphins/Skins Superbowl. That's right, I witnessed Riggo's famous run live. Sorry Redcoat, never could stand the Fish, so I was quietly pulling for the Skins that day.

Posted by: SMACK | January 24, 2007 2:51 PM | Report abuse

How can we discuss that Redcoat? There is no argument, just fact.

Posted by: 4th | January 24, 2007 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Conversation after the Super Bowl:

Guy #1 - That was the worst quarterbacking I have ever seen in the Super Bowl.

Guy #2 - Yeah, it was Gross, Man.

Posted by: Ricky | January 24, 2007 2:53 PM | Report abuse

No problem SMACK, Woodley never won a Super Bowl, only lost one - same as Marino (sob).

Posted by: Redcoat | January 24, 2007 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Dilfer?

Posted by: P Diddy | January 24, 2007 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Hayes, Jeff, P, North Carolina (1982-85). World Cup every 4 years. Sexy Rexy will not get a ring this year.

Posted by: james63k | January 24, 2007 2:55 PM | Report abuse

I withdraw since my age of 26 can't remember how the pre-80s game played out vs. just reading about them....

Posted by: 4th | January 24, 2007 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, I didn't mean to offend anyone by suggesting that perhaps a Redskins blog should focus on *gasp* The Redskins.

I think I'll go onto this site http://forums.prospero.com/fox24/start and start talking to all chode yodelers on there about the Redskins.

Posted by: Seriously | January 24, 2007 3:01 PM | Report abuse

How about Tony Eason or Vince Ferragamo as worst SB QB?

Posted by: james63k | January 24, 2007 3:01 PM | Report abuse

The 24 blogs are all really, really lame. Most of them are run by 13 year olds who erect these ridiculous rules about who can post and about which topic. It's all fun for me, not a career.

And we have hacked the 'Skins deficiencies to death at this point. Until there's movement on their end, there isn't anything left to discuss. I suspect once free agency starts, the howling madness will pick up again in earnest.

Until then. Chill.

Posted by: P Diddy | January 24, 2007 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Seriously

If you don't like a post just skip over it. No need to blast anyone here if they are not talking about what you want. (and it not your blog) If you can't be an adult about things then I suggest you move on.

Posted by: jm220 | January 24, 2007 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Oh, worst QB to have won a SB, sorry. Montana, no doubt.

Posted by: SMACK | January 24, 2007 3:08 PM | Report abuse

OK,OK

I betche the Danny is warming up Redskin One now to offer the Tuna 10 Million to be our GM ... you think?

OH - *hugs*

Been in the hospital taking care of my cancerous mom lately. Hopefully my schedule will return to some form of normalcy so I can participate more here.

*hugs*

Posted by: SallieMae | January 24, 2007 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Ok,OK

I see that Rumor Mill beat me to my prediction. Great minds think alike.

Posted by: SallieMae | January 24, 2007 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Hi Sallie Mae, welcome back. * Hugs * to you and your Mom, and good wishes for her recovery.

Posted by: Redcoat | January 24, 2007 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Took a quick look at all the posts. Can't watch 24 until the weekend...baby 4-12 doesn't give us the chance to watch during the week. So, no blogging my guts out for now. Thoughts and prayers to Joe Jackson Gibbs and his entire family.

Posted by: 4-12 | January 24, 2007 3:25 PM | Report abuse

I despise 24 and the chatter on here still doesnt offend me, Seriously, your an azz, puleeze with that! When there is news we hit it!!!! We obsessed about Grimm and the cowboys opening, we got dudes scouting the college seniors, its a "Big Tent" brutha!

Jeff Hayes, welcome back..long time no blog!

Also I slept on last weeks Office.....Jim you are INSANE!!!!!!!!!!! Karen is the one F Pam!

Posted by: chris Larry | January 24, 2007 3:40 PM | Report abuse

ohhmygod!

from wapo about google's food:


google food pics

In addition to the 11 cafes, open mostly during mealtime, 44 stations between work areas are filled with expensive snacks: four varieties of bottled water, six kinds of Naked Juice, vitamin waters and lots of bottled beverages I'd never heard of, such as litchi-flavored iced tea. Each station is equipped with an espresso machine. And when I visited, dozens of scoop-your-own bins were filled with Clif Bars, chocolate malt balls, almonds, cashews, soy nuts and Gummi Bears. It's like going to Whole Foods, loading up with whatever you want and not paying the bill.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/23/AR2007012300334.html

Posted by: dealer | January 24, 2007 3:40 PM | Report abuse

On Halloween of 1983 the Washington Redskins made the trip out west to take on the San Diego Chargers. The Redskins intercepted Chargers QB Ed Luther six times and ran up nearly 500 yards on offense. But still, the Redskins barely eked out a 27-24 victory. Special teams play was the key to the game. Mike Nelms got things rolling with a 40 yard kick off return to start the game. Mark Moseley hit two field goals, including the game-winner with just four seconds left. But the play of the game belonged to Jeff Hayes. On 4th and 4 from the 50 in the 4th quarter, Hayes faked the punt and cut back across the field all the way to the Chargers two yard line.

Posted by: Jeff Hayes | January 24, 2007 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Sallie Mae is BACK! *woohoo* I hope your mom is doing as best as she can and good thoughts and lots of *hugs* to you.

Posted by: sfskin | January 24, 2007 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Umm let's see I think the only thing we haven't discussed is the softness/absorbency of toilet paper at FedEx . . . is it any good?

So Seriously . . . . seriously.


P.S. - I've tried other blogs and A#1) I feel like I'm cheating and B#2)They simply don't bring me the satisfaction . . . cheaters never do. . .

Posted by: sfskin | January 24, 2007 3:45 PM | Report abuse

My own nomniation for worst SB winning QB: Bob Griese (I know, I know he's an 'undefeated' sacred cow for Fins fans...). 14-18 for 132yds, 1xINT, 1xTD for TWO rings?

Posted by: Redcoat | January 24, 2007 3:51 PM | Report abuse

My favorite Jeff Hayes moment was when he was with the Bungles on MNF...fake punt, bumbling, stumbling, all the way down field. Classic.

A kicker moment second only to Jess Atkinson's touchdown on the fake field goal when he was with the Giants.

The Google food thing is hilarious. I could add all sorts of color commentary about the paranoia about Google inflicting my company, but I'll just leave it with a sideways mention of the email on the topic first sent by a VP to a Corporate VP, which was read by a Senior VP, commented upon by an Executive VP, negated by a Co-President, with further commentary added by a Director, Senior Director, Executive Director, and, finally, a CEO.

Posted by: P Diddy | January 24, 2007 3:51 PM | Report abuse

thanks Chris. I've spent most of the offseason huffing gas and have nearly wiped out any recolection of the futile 2006 redskins. Highly recommended.

Things have been nutty in the '07. I've been following, but no time to post...Mrs Hayes and I are trying to relocate.

...loved the meeting of the minds between 4th and SMACK...we've got to get our folks together like that more often!

Posted by: Jeff Hayes | January 24, 2007 3:53 PM | Report abuse

And, couldn't agree more. Karen is the one for Jim. She's also the one for me.

Posted by: P Diddy | January 24, 2007 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Jeff Hayes!

I totally remember that game!!! Good times...good times...

Posted by: chris Larry | January 24, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Jeff Hayes...leaving Brooklyn??? what about next season Brooklyn RI meetups!?!

Posted by: chris Larry | January 24, 2007 3:56 PM | Report abuse

The Romo attempt may be fresher in our minds, but there could never be a kicking incident as comical as one Garabed Sarkis Yepremian playing paddycake with the football right into the arms of Mike Bass. Classic.

Posted by: SMACK | January 24, 2007 4:01 PM | Report abuse

I know...totally weak bailing on the Kings County crew...but the real estate here is ridiculous and I'm not about to deal with a Jersey, LI or upstate commute.

What was up with Jim coming clean like that so quickly?! C'mon man...deny, deny, deny.

Posted by: Jeff Hayes | January 24, 2007 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Christopher Lawrence... Karen doesn't play pranks with Jim... its the little things. Just like Nadia v. Audrey for Jack... Nadia is way hot but Jack digs Audrey for her powerful ties. Not that you'd like my analogy since youre a 24 hater.

Jim and Pam are like lamb and tunafish

Posted by: Dorf | January 24, 2007 4:09 PM | Report abuse

This is the MaryAnn/Ginger debate for a new generation. I'm in Pam's camp. Karen's a who're you kidding!

Posted by: SMACK | January 24, 2007 4:13 PM | Report abuse

YIKES! Using my christian name up in here!!!!!!

Dorf on Golf, Karen play pranks she was just busy the milisecond that he asked...not to mention that was a lame prank!

Karen is there for Jim, doesnt play mind games, speaks her feelings, nurtures him when he is drunk, isn't still semi attached to an ex fiance, isn't as cute.....ahh hell lets just hook Karen up with P Diddy and let Jim wallow in his poor choices!

Posted by: CHris Larry | January 24, 2007 4:14 PM | Report abuse

I HEART Karen. I also HEART Nadia. Hell, I also HEART 3/4 of the lithe, blonde actresses in Hollywood. Collagen peels, facials, Botox, and spray-on tans for everyone!

One thing I don't get is that trash sorority girl look with the two-tone lip gloss. Beyond my comprehension.

Because the blog police are watching, here's a football-related topic: who is Cooley dating now?

Posted by: P Diddy | January 24, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Had to share this.

I'm at Starbucks in downtown Seattle. I'm watching a homeless guy outside holding the greatest homeless guy sign ever:

"My father was killed by Ninjas. Need $$$ for karate lessons."

I wonder if he knows that Ninjas can't be defeated with mere karate.

Posted by: P Diddy | January 24, 2007 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Redcoat | January 24, 2007 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the link, Redcoat!!!

Posted by: P Diddy | January 24, 2007 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Feh, indeed - karate will do nothing against the ninjas. Gun-fu, on the other hand....

Posted by: FlimFlam | January 24, 2007 5:10 PM | Report abuse

I think I'll go onto this site http://forums.prospero.com/fox24/start and start talking to all chode yodelers on there about the Redskins.

Posted by: Seriously | January 24, 2007 03:01 PM

Funny, I'll join you, Seriously. But Seriously, we have beaten the Skins issues like a dead horse skin.

We do try to keep it short (outside of 24 - I really have no idea about what they talk about since I don't watch) I think we do try to keep it on football. We do have a good group here so I think there needs to be some leeway.

Posted by: charlie | January 24, 2007 5:11 PM | Report abuse

....and what is it with gummy bears????

BLEAH!!!!!

Even as a small kid I thought that they were too..... unreal, unnatural.

Posted by: charlie | January 24, 2007 5:18 PM | Report abuse

dude gummy bears rule!

Posted by: chris Larry | January 24, 2007 5:30 PM | Report abuse

"It won't be a surprise if Jerry Jones bites the bullet and dials up 49ers offensive coordinator Norv Turner. In a brief conversation with Jimmy Johnson on Tuesday, Jones' original coach indicated that Turner might have a shot at the job."
-- Dallas Morning News

Things are looking good for Norv "Mediocrity" Turner coming back! Yea!

Posted by: charlie | January 24, 2007 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Karen was laughing at Jim when he was drunk... and drinking him and andy under the table to boot. and she didn't know at the time it was a lame prank. (tweedley deedly dee) Put yourself in Pam's shoes for a second.. yeah thats what I thought.

you're right, let's not fight... let's just have Uncle Diddy take both Pam and Karen

Posted by: Dorf | January 24, 2007 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Captain Chaos | January 24, 2007 5:48 PM | Report abuse

SI has a thing about 10 possible replacements for Billy P. Best one is obviously Houston Nutt although he'd be better as HC of the Texans.

Mike Singletary is on the list too. Man can you imagine if Roy Williams would have to come off the field after getting torched facing those eyes? Gold pure gold!

Posted by: sfskin | January 24, 2007 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Houston Nutt? That might be better than Seamus McDrinksalot, but not by much.

Posted by: P Diddy | January 24, 2007 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Hmmmmm. Seriously seems to have killed this blog! ;)

Posted by: charlie | January 24, 2007 6:42 PM | Report abuse

This blog will not die. It's the cockroach of washingtonpost.com.

Posted by: P Diddy | January 24, 2007 6:49 PM | Report abuse

SallieMae great to have you back baby girl. Big bear hug for you. (be careful I may not let go lol) My prayers go out to you and your mother.


sfskin better yet can you see T.O. coming to the sidline gettting into Singletary face? Hell I would pay to see that.

Posted by: jm220 | January 24, 2007 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Gee, Kiffin is 31 years old and was the offensive coordinator(!) of USC. Couldn't the Raiders have done better with Norman Chow, Ron Rivera or any of number of highly qualified coaches in the NFL?

Posted by: charlie | January 24, 2007 7:10 PM | Report abuse

I have nothing against Kiffin being hired at his age. How could anyone? Opportunity takes many forms. When the door opens, run in. I'm sure there are all sorts of qualified coaches, but not all of them are Al Davis types of coaches. We all know the Raiders are clueless, but for Kiffin, it's the chance of a lifetime. Carpe diem.

Posted by: P Diddy | January 24, 2007 7:37 PM | Report abuse

worked for john gruden....

Posted by: chris larry | January 24, 2007 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Ah yes apparently Kiffin is "enthusiastic like John Gruden."

Good for him, I'm sure he never imagined he'd go from asst coach in college to HC in NFL. For the Raiders on the other hand, well we'll just have to see. If you're a Raider and your new HC is younger than you and his only NFL experience is "defensive quality control" with JAX for one year, how do you repsond especially when you play on the team that induces belly laughs among fans and league.

By the way Kiffen was QB at Fresno State where he majored in "leisure services" - anyone? My head is exploding with smart a$$ remarks but I'll leave it to you.

Here is the kicker about Kiffen though - he was voted as one of the top recruiters in nation. . . anyone see where I'm going with this? . . . oh look it's the carcass of a horse half buried in the ground . . . let me get out my bat. . .

Posted by: sfskin | January 24, 2007 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Hey, the good news about this hiring is that none of US has to go out and be the coach of the Raiders. Whew!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | January 24, 2007 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Leisure Services is absolutely joke-worthy. Fresno State may be a silly little school, but it's no Chico!

Posted by: P Diddy | January 24, 2007 8:42 PM | Report abuse

How 'bout them Tar Heels!

Posted by: LH | January 24, 2007 8:52 PM | Report abuse

diddy, don't mess with chico! that's the only school(not even my beloved terps come close) i'm heavily invested in...clothing wise...absolutely love the name...and the campus...of course...and the drive...nothing...nothing...nothing...nothing...chico...nothing...nothing...nothing...

Posted by: dealer | January 24, 2007 9:04 PM | Report abuse

lisa, are you serious? i just read your reply to my reply to jm...about sb thingie...

Posted by: dealer | January 24, 2007 9:06 PM | Report abuse

about lovie smith being the lowest paid head coach in the NFL. now...really...he should've gotten a new contract last year. shame on the owner for not doing it. and now he wants to wait till after the superbowl? huh? are you kidding me? there was a WEEK of probly not much goings on to get this done.

those players better play lights out for this guy to become the highest paid coach in the nfl. what a joke this is! F the bears ownership! reall! LOWEST paid coach in the nfl? last year could be forgiven but NOW??????????????? dragging it???

my theory is that the agent wants lovie to be compensated for the past 2 years too...and he should be...the way owners are throwing money around to coaches...nicky was making 5-6 mil a year, joe's making close to 7 mil a year, spurrier was making 5 mil a year...and this dude was making ONE!!!!!!!!!!!! arghhh!

Posted by: dealer | January 24, 2007 9:20 PM | Report abuse

dealer how is it the Bears fault that Lovie is the lowest-paid coach. Lovie, with advice from his agent, agreed to that salary. The Bears didn't force it on him. If he didn't like what was offered he could have declined the job. The Bears are being gracious by agreeing to redo his contract before the current deal is up.

Posted by: LH | January 24, 2007 9:40 PM | Report abuse

I thought I had heard over the course of the season that the owners had approached Smith about redoing the contract and he decided to wait until the end of the season?
Of course, they probably gave him a ballpark figure to start out that he didn't want to honor with a response...

Posted by: cload and daggar | January 24, 2007 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Jerry Jones would be more than happy to give Lovie a little raise. Fear the possibility people, Jerry LOVES Lovie, and who wouldn't? Anyone hear the interview on the John Thompson show? Lovie for Dallas!

Posted by: SMACK | January 24, 2007 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Smack,
But Smith still has a year on his contract, right? It's not like the Bears have to do anything in the next two weeks -- where Dallas needs to have a coach ASAP...

Posted by: cload and daggar | January 24, 2007 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Somebody has to be the lowest paid coach...

PS- All you former and current Harrisonburgers. (Go JMU Dukes) A new restaurant and lounge has opened up in town and is a 10 on the P Diddy scale of classiness (its Harrisonburg, take that into account) Donwtown 56 Lounge. Across the street from Chanellos where N Main St turns into Liberty St going South. Classy. Great martinis. Go.

Posted by: Dorf | January 24, 2007 11:16 PM | Report abuse

dealer how is it the Bears fault that Lovie is the lowest-paid coach.

lh, i'm not faulting them for getting him for cheap cuz afterall he was an unproven HC in the NFL and black.

hell i'm even giving them pass on last season. but NOW they in SB!!!! with all the injuries to the defense with no QB, no RB and they in SB!!

i'm saying how can they not offer him the highest paid contract in the nfl. what else does he have to prove? without inside knowledge on my behalf...it just looks bad man. that's all i'm saying. not calling anyone racist or anything. i just think that a coach with a record of like 27-5 the past two years to be the lowest paid HC just looks bad. skins have 3 to 4 assistants that make more than he does.

i hope you were kidding when you said the bears were being "gracious" by offering to re-do...

lh, at least you're not a dukie(duke U).
go terps!

Posted by: dealer | January 24, 2007 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Somebody has to be the lowest paid coach...

Posted by: Dorf | January 24, 2007 11:16 PM

True, but we're not talking about the Detroit job. Even Oakland has... well.... decent restaurants within driving range? Detroit has... Windsor.

Posted by: cload and daggar | January 24, 2007 11:40 PM | Report abuse

So ESPN is reporting that Dallas will hire Jason Garrett "in some capacity".

Call Joe -- we need an Assistant Head Coach of In Some Capacity STAT!

Posted by: cload and daggar | January 24, 2007 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Which one was Jason Garrett again? I'm sure he provided us lots of laffs over the years, but I'm drawing a blank. Was he the goofy red-haired kid who looked scared and fell down a lot?

Favorite Jason Garrett moments, anyone? Youtube highlight/lowlight reel?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | January 24, 2007 11:44 PM | Report abuse

another angle could be that lovie doesn't want to stay. eventhough we've heard to the contrary from him. i don't know. i mean if he's saying he wants to stay then there's absolutely no reason why they can't complete a deal before the SB.

what kinda message are you sending to the players? and how will they or lovie react to this in SB?

i'm just wondering out loud...and i missed lovie on JT...kinda wanted to hear him...i wonder if coach asked him about his contract...

Posted by: dealer | January 24, 2007 11:45 PM | Report abuse

cload, from the Windsor reference I can tell you're a man who appreciates the Canadian ballet. I could tell you were a person with great taste, and a patron of the arts to boot.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | January 24, 2007 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Only went to *that* part of Windsor once while 'of age' -- baffled by the whole thing, to be honest. What purpose was achieved by their costume changes?

Posted by: cload and daggar | January 25, 2007 12:17 AM | Report abuse

Favorite Jason Garrett moments, anyone?
Posted by: Nate in the PDX | January 24, 2007 11:44 PM

He was behind Aikman, so most of his highlights involve shifting the clipboard smoothly from the left hand to the right hand, and perhaps gesticulating wildly like his hair was on fire "44 flex shift z wide right"...

Posted by: cload and daggar | January 25, 2007 8:08 AM | Report abuse

"i hope you were kidding when you said the bears were being "gracious" by offering to re-do..."

No I wasn't joking. A deal is a deal. Honor your word. If Lovie was a terrible coach and the Bears fired him they would still have to pay him under the contract. It's the same with a player. If the player sucks the team has to pay him all guaranteed money but if he's better than expected then the team got a bargain. On this deal the Bears got a bargain. Lovie can negotiate for more cash when his deal is up. If the Bears don't pay he can walk and get his market value elsewhere if there's a market for his services.

Posted by: LH | January 25, 2007 8:23 AM | Report abuse

LH, you're not being realistic. rather idealistic. the fact is they low balled lovie. steve spurrier got 5 million per year. tom coughlin got 3-4 million a year. gregg williams got a 2 million plus to be a D coordinator. (time lovie was hired) and here's lovie coming off a superbowl year and you pay him $1.37?

that's called exploitation not market value. that's the same as me hiring a "day laborer" for cheap to do the exact same quality work as i would if i hired anyone who spoke english because i KNOW they're not going to say NO to me. and i make myself feel better by saying "they couldn't be happier".

and what are you talking about a bargain player? undrafted rookies are bargain players. but only for ONE year TWO at the most. after that they all want to RENEGOTIATE.

yes, he signed a contract but that's not how it works in real life and in the NFL. look at marvin lewis...after going friggin 8-8 he got a new deal, then 11-5 he got a new deal again...and we're talking about the bengals!

you can be fiscally responsible but in this case IMNSHO they're being ignorant. it was a very very bad move by the bears not to make him an offer he couldn't refuse. we're not talking about salary cap hit. we're not talking about a dent in these owners' pockets. it's the right thing to do.

Posted by: dealer | January 25, 2007 10:21 AM | Report abuse

If Lovie or Lewis or any other coach was terrible or their team had an awful season, would you call for them to take a pay cut? If they got fired, would you expect them to forego any money due them for the remainder of the contract? And even if you think they should, the fact is they wouldn't. And it doesn't matter if a player or anyone else wants to renogtiate, the team doesn't have to do it. They can fine 'em and not pay 'em. Or do like the Broncos did CP and unload their a.. on someone else. This has nothing to do with fiscal responsibility. A deal is a deal. If you expect me to hold my end you hold your end. Your day labor analogy was weeeeak

Posted by: LH | January 25, 2007 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Your day labor analogy was weeeeak

and your "a deal is a deal" is ignoring facts, ignoring history, ignoring the environment, ignoring the trend and everything else except your KG teacher's day plan from...

and my analogy isn't weak because with it i was trying to prove the exploitation factor which you never argued.

bears ownership looks like martha stewart in my eyes. no one wants to hire a black coach, got him for cheap and so did the bengals...bengals did the NORMAL thing...and the bears didn't. but what if not bad PR are the bears gaining from this?

i wish we were in person...cuz it's a really good arguement. because you seem so set on your "deal is deal" thing.

Posted by: dealer | January 25, 2007 12:32 PM | Report abuse

dealer when are you going to address my questions brotha? And the explotation analogy is weak. No one making $1.37 million as result of negotiating a contract with the assistance of an agent/lawyer/representative is being exploited.

And two posts ago I said Da Bears are being gracious by offering to redo his deal because they really don't have to.

Posted by: LH | January 25, 2007 2:01 PM | Report abuse

OK,OK

great big *HUGZ* to sfskin, Redcoat, and jm220 - love you all.

Posted by: SallieMae | January 25, 2007 2:17 PM | Report abuse

lh, it's all relative. $1.37 million is like pocket change for these owners. AND some of the players lovie has to coach.

okay let's address your arguement(which i did in my head but never made it on to the screen):
it was lovie who was gracious enough to accept such an insulting offer from the bears. let's look at the scenerio a bit:

all my colleagues, even people who are much lower than me in NFL ranks (spurrier, nick saban, etc.) are getting X amount.

you're interviewing with a company that's considered a "storied franchise", a fortune 5 company...have all the money to spend because of their fan base...

you go home after the interview. the company tells you "we love you! and that's why we want to hire you." and in the same breath they show you how much they love you by offering you X-60-70% of your colleagues.

you accept without hesitation because you've made it clear how desperately you want to prove yourself at the "next level".

lovie was gracious in his desperate moments. bears took advantage.

they could've done the right thing by offering him the highest paid contract, which he is DUE according to the league standards. but they chose not to. for 2 years+ 2 weeks.

if i was him after the SB i would give them only one chance to come within a million of a figure in my head and if they don't. F them! finish out or quit. but then again i'm not the one who's gracious.

Posted by: dealer | January 25, 2007 3:36 PM | Report abuse

and a quote from their star player, brian urlacher from SI.com

Something else, though: I'm a big Tony Dungy fan. I don't know for sure that the plan is for Lovie around here [Bears' coach Lovie Smith will soon be negotiating with the Bears on a new contract], but Tony Dungy is one of the guys I'd like to play for. Guys like his personality and they respect him and like to play for him. Just like Lovie.

not exactly a good thing heading into Superbowl.

Posted by: dealer | January 25, 2007 5:21 PM | Report abuse

kathy lee not martha stewart

Posted by: dealer | January 25, 2007 8:15 PM | Report abuse

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