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The Vigil

Got this report from Paul Tenorio, who is doing great work and was at the vigil.

He says there are about 200 people out there, with a long line of cars coming in "that looks like Field of Dreams."

By Jason La Canfora  |  November 27, 2007; 6:40 PM ET
 
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Guys, there is also a big vigil over at FedEx, around the corner form me.

95.5 is out there and they said they have a big 'roll call' for all the fans to sign. Hail!

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 27, 2007 7:22 PM | Report abuse

To Barno:

That was certainly an inappropriate response, especially given the Post's recent problem with e-mails from writers.

You should get an apology. Why everyone is defending JLC is because of his constant reporting and imagined strained which must have clouded his judgment. That's understandable given his proximity to the team and the story, unlike certain other sports writers who are turning this event into their own personal ax grinding.

Posted by: sxpatr | November 27, 2007 7:23 PM | Report abuse

This was written by a friend of mine and I think it's worth posting here:

Re: R.I.P

You know, all day I have been trying to put this tragedy out of my
mind for a little while, but every time I have a free moment, my
thoughts drifts back to it. Of course I am going to read all the
stories and most of the columns to try and figure out what happened.
I have dreaded reading a lot of this b/c I knew I would be pissed off
reading about how Taylor would be portrayed as a thug who turned the
corner and the birth of the child, and speculation that this was
related to the 2005 ATV incident, and violent lifestyle, etc and
various other sh!t spun in a manner that would just enrage me.
During lunch, I could not resist reading some of these columns.

I don't want to go into the names and too many specifics, I just have
a couple of questions. First, since when did penalties for late-hits
for defensive backs become indicative of off-field behavior, or
better yet some predisposed character flaw indicative of a criminal
lifestyle? All the great safeties, from Lott, to Atwater, to Reed,
and even someone like Harrison, routinely drew flags and fines for
punishing receivers a little too late. All the great defensive
players walk the line and occasionally cross it. It's called
intimidation, an essential part of playing sports. Jack Tatum
paralyzed another player for life with a vicious hit. And what about
spitting? Disgusting and dishonorable, yes, but in reality, not that
uncommon. TO, Romonowski, and Roberto Alomar are all guilty. Mean
Joe Greene once spit on Dick Butkus and he is in the Hall of Fame!
Did any of these incidents lead to indictments about off the field
conduct for these players?

Missing the Rookie symposium? Also a very common occurrence, ever
heard of a hold-out? This was a non story, I cannot fathom how this
can possibly be unearthed and considered relevant to the Taylor
shooting. What's next, parking tickets? Library fines??

The ATV incident should be mentioned because there is a chance that
it is relative to this situation. But portraying it as indicative of
a violent upbringing and environment is ridiculous. TAYLOR'S FATHER
IS A POLICE CHIEF!!!

It is just really pathetic how low people go to try and prove an
incorrect point. Clearly, the have already drawn a conclusion, and
will summarily select and disregard facts regardless of their
relevance solely to support this conclusion. All this merely pours
salt in the wounds of a tragic event and tarnishes what is now only a
memory.

Posted by: Barno1 | November 27, 2007 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Well put. It's sad how the press is brushing him (that's you Wibon) with a broad brush is awful. We should be talking about his great moments, ie: His hit on Crayton at the end of the 1st Dallas game in '05 to WIN the game... my favorite hit from Taylor. And any hit on TO.

Oh yeah. I live in LA and do have local TV. Can anyone else confirm that CP will be wearing #21?

Posted by: relishfilms | November 27, 2007 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Jason, thank you for the continual updates over the last two days. It is greatly appreciated.

Posted by: CBT | November 27, 2007 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Barno also BSPN when doing their "The Life of Sean Taylor" which includes everything you mentioned, they also bring up how last year in the Pro Bowl when he completely layed out the AFC Punter on a fake punt as the guy was going for a first down. They made it seem like he was a bad guy for laying out a punter. Where as, to me, it shows that whenever the dude strapped on the pads and stepped on the field he was all business whether it be in a regular season, post-season, or pro-bowl game. that's something he should be respected for, not chastised for like BSPN would have you believe.

It's ashame there isn't any competition in the market to BSPN.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | November 27, 2007 7:42 PM | Report abuse

great to see theres a big turn out at the vigils, il be showin my love from colorado.

on a side note does anyone know if portis will indeed be wearing #21 on sunday?

Posted by: topher.graham | November 27, 2007 7:48 PM | Report abuse

That was the WORST. I saw that ESPN piece "Even his Pro Bowl appearance was overshadowed by a hit on a punter". This is FOOTBALL. You are suppose to hit. That was the ONLY highlight from that SORRY game. F-ESPN!

Posted by: relishfilms | November 27, 2007 7:50 PM | Report abuse

yeah it's like all those people who got upset at Pete Rose for taking out that catcher during the all-star game. I'ts like, c'mon, dude plays the game whenever, whereever. Thats something he should be respected for, not beaten down for.

it's also sad too because Dana Jacobson is pretty hot but yet they (BSPN) have her narrating that propagandist garbage.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | November 27, 2007 7:54 PM | Report abuse

I wish there were some kind of vigil in DC proper so us city dwellers could partipate.

Posted by: Lisa | November 27, 2007 7:54 PM | Report abuse

why do i feel like i lost my best friend? I don't even know ST, he hardly did an interview, why is this so heartbreaking?

Posted by: dbowen11 | November 27, 2007 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 27, 2007 8:08 PM | Report abuse

This is a very sad day and I apologize in advance if my opinions offend anyone.

I am struggling with the reaction to Sean's death. I should start by saying I think this was a murder hit, not a burglary gone bad. There is too much prior history to suggest it was anything other than retaliation.

Also, Sean Taylor was improving his behavior but he was still not a role model in my opinion. If you look at his list of offenses since joining the NFL from firing his agent, walking out of rookie camp, a DUI, the spitting suspension, gun charges, disregarding the media, etc.. I personally think Sean got a lot more from the community than he gave. He was not a role model in my opinion and I would not have sought his autograph or a handshake if I saw him in public. Am I wrong here?

He was a hard hitter, he was not Darrell Green. I would not erect a statue or retire his number...he simply was not that caliber of a person in my opinion.

It is not my place to judge him and his passing is very tragic, but it is NOT entirely unexpected. Check yourself. If you made a list of Redskins most likley to get in trouble Sean would still be at the top of most lists. Your accountable for your prior actions forever...that's a long time.

Finally, as long as I'm hatin'....if Jason LC starts another post with "how great a friend some source is...or how great a guy a source is" I'm going to be ill.

There it is....tear it up.

Posted by: garygarbo | November 27, 2007 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 27, 2007 8:10 PM | Report abuse

care to lick my taint gary? it could use a good licking you know.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | November 27, 2007 8:11 PM | Report abuse

lol, now Bill O'Reilly is offering his opinion on Sean Taylo r and the incident. Should be very interesting to see how this goes.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | November 27, 2007 8:13 PM | Report abuse

yo, poop, if you were that catcher -- who had his career ruined because of that punk -- you'd think differently.

Posted by: sales | November 27, 2007 8:15 PM | Report abuse

What I am seeing from comments of Wilbon Shapiro, garygarbo, etc. is what I call Old School vs. New School.

All these old school guys don't get it.

F sides. Its about life Gary, Wilbon, and Shapirio. Life. It's about stopping all of these senseless murders now. It's about black men relieved they made it to the age of 25. Its about remembering the person as who he was.

Sometimes we uplift or down people too much in death. None of us knew him personally, but you have to admit. All of his former and current teamates have been farely consistent about Sean's life over the past year and a half. He was trying to do right by his family and do the right thing for the kids. That's not a whole lot, but that's enough in my books.

You don't have to be D. Green to have yor life celebrated. If we can all be like D Green, it would be close to a perfect world, but it ain't........

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 27, 2007 8:18 PM | Report abuse

so rose and taylor shouldn't go all out just because it's an all-star game? that's what seperates great athletes from good ones, the want/drive/etc. to give 100% whenever you step on the field.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | November 27, 2007 8:18 PM | Report abuse

I just don't know why Sean had to go back to FL. I just have this feeling that he knew someone was out to get him.

Posted by: BT23 | November 27, 2007 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Gary

Something tells me that if you heard noises inside your house you'd be found shaking andsucking your thumb in the corner....

I didn't know firing an agent is "an offense", or disregarding the media either.

You'd think Taylor was the one who did the murdering the way these retards spin it

Posted by: dbowen11 | November 27, 2007 8:20 PM | Report abuse

gary-how would you know he got alot more from the community than he gave?
Who else do you want jason to quote? Cynics like you who have no idea about the man? You make me ill. If you don't want to hear any of this stuff, than don't read it.

Posted by: puttinforbird | November 27, 2007 8:21 PM | Report abuse

4thFloor - I agree. Shapiro does not have "the pulse" of the people. If he would have read the postings here over the past four years, he would understand how much people cared about Sean. It always seems like the media dogs people because they can't get a story from them. Truth is, the media today is not the media of old where you could tell someone something in confedence.

Posted by: BT23 | November 27, 2007 8:22 PM | Report abuse

What I think people tend to forget is that these athletes are still so young. Maybe some of these reporters should look themselves in the mirror and think back to when they were in their early 20's. Everybody has done at least one thing that they are not proud of or regret.

Posted by: BT23 | November 27, 2007 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Since when is firing your agent,holding out of rookie camp and not talking to the media a crime. Even spitting is not crime, not looked upon with class but not a crime. Get a clue you ass, in your life you do things that are comparable, wrong to do, but not a crime.

He single handedly could change a game and he was only 24. We may never see talent like him again, he had it all. He is a once in a generation player an we had him on our team.

Retire his # and put a statue of him in front of the stadium.

Posted by: dave197391 | November 27, 2007 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Sales, here ya go, it's a quote/tid bit about Ray Fosse (the catcher Pete Rose ran into):

Fosse says, "I would like to think it just happened, it was a clean, aggressive play."

The shoulder was so swollen that night, X-rays taken at a Cincinnati hospital did not reveal the damage. So Fosse kept playing.

Now, in retrospect, Fosse obviously wishes he had rested the shoulder long enough for doctors to discover the extent of the injury. Later in his career, he often encouraged teammates to resist the urge to play through serious pain; get the problem fixed, he told them.

Doesn't sound like he blames Rose for giving 100% now does he?

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | November 27, 2007 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Dave197391 said:

"Since when is firing your agent,holding out of rookie camp and not talking to the media a crime. Even spitting is not crime, not looked upon with class but not a crime. Get a clue you ass, in your life you do things that are comparable, wrong to do, but not a crime."


Dave, if you read my post I did not say anything about the above being crimes. I referenced them as far as Sean Taylor as a role model.

Get your facts straight, be objective.


Posted by: garygarbo | November 27, 2007 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Guys - We have a bigger problem. When are we going to stop killing each other?!?!?

I only hope that the redskins go to EVERY middle and high school in DC & PG County to talk to the kids personally about how unnecessary all of this gun violence is and the devastation it brings to the community. MAybe they can save some lives.

We need bring back decencey to our community. I will do my part.

I am ready to tell my story if that means helping turn someone around. I have an extensive story that some of you may or may not know that goes beyond the sudden death of my 19 month old daughter this past summer.

Hit me @ rightwaytax@hotmail.com if you are ready to take back the streets!

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 27, 2007 8:33 PM | Report abuse

CP was just on CNN. He stated that Sean went out of the bedroom and told his girlfriend to stay inside along with his little girl. And that he didn't make it back to the bedroom. Why is everyone reporting that the bedroom door was kicked in? He also made a very good point in saying

Posted by: jm220 | November 27, 2007 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Gary what is the point? You don't think Sean Taylor is a role model. Okay.

Sean was not Darrell Green. Hardley anyone is Darrell Green. We thought he was a fantastic player and we feel for his lose. That's where I stand. Do you think we should not feel for the lose because he wasn't a model citizen?

Posted by: relishfilms | November 27, 2007 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Any person with some common football sense will say he was one of the most talented and gifted athletes to step on the field. THATS OBJECTIVE!

Every team talks about how they fear him.

Yeah so he got in trouble some. He never killed anyone, never fired his gun at anyone but he was young and his life was turning around completely. Thats a 180, and THATS OBJECTIVE!

Who do you want everyone to be, JESUS?
We live in a real world with real people and real mistakes.

You need to move and quite dwelling on a few past mistakes. Get a life. THATS OBJECTIVE!

Posted by: dave197391 | November 27, 2007 8:40 PM | Report abuse

There are no words to describe how shocked and sad I was to wake up this morning and see the news that the great Sean Taylor had passed away. My heart goes out to his girlfriend, daughter, and his whole family.

I do have to say, though, that his murder does not seem like a random burglary. To begin with, the neighborhood where his house is is not the kind of neighborhood where this kind of thing happens. That doesn't mean it's not possible, but it is unlikely. Secondly, with the earlier attempted break-in, my suspicion is that someone was checking out what kind of security there was. Unfortunately, the answer seems to be that it was minimal.

And that leads me to this painful question. Knowing that there were people in Miami who had it in for him for whatever reason (and please don't get me wrong--I'm not saying that it was Taylor's fault for having people after him, assuming that's the case), I don't understand why he didn't have better security. It just doesn't make any sense to me.

And by the way, for those like Riggins who think you're a hero for trying to defend your domain, a hero is someone who tries to keep all of the family, self included, alive. Not having a father around isn't much easier just because he was a 'hero'.

Posted by: gringoinmiami | November 27, 2007 8:44 PM | Report abuse

To reiterate some of the earlier comments, I don't understand why we should not care about Sean just because he made some mistakes. If that were the criteria, nobody would give a shti about anybody else.

Posted by: BT23 | November 27, 2007 8:46 PM | Report abuse

dave197391

Your still not objective because I never questioned his talent as a player. I simply said I was surprised you guys are ready to name a bridge after him or put his face on a coin.

I'm not going to argue with you any more because you are convinced in your point of view and never even read my post.

Posted by: garygarbo | November 27, 2007 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Everybody here! Take a deep breath and STOP slamming eachother. I have been guilty of it too the past couple days and it is getting petty.

A 24 yr old was murdered in front of his family. Period! His life, career and future are gone!

Stop slamming JLC, Wilbon, Shapiro, ESPN eachother. Seriously, the more I read, the more passionate I get about this plea. Step away from the keyboard, take a deep breath, and remember what brought you to this post in the first place. A young football player died. He was 24. At 24, would we have been proud of all of our actions? No. As we had children and took on more real life responsibilities, did we mature and grow as people? Yes. Life is a journey, and from all accounts, the kid was on his way and working to be a better man. Everyone's got an opinion. And we all know the cliche "opinions are like ---holes, everyone's got one".

Hug your kids and loved ones, give eachother a break, and show some respect. I include myself in this, so please don't come back at me with MORE negativity.

Use this post to express your thoughts, but damn, life is hard enough. Ease up my friends.

Posted by: chadaleshire1 | November 27, 2007 8:47 PM | Report abuse

I agree with BT23. We are all comparable, its just that his life was magnified. Take a look in the mirror, if you dont think that you make some mistakes also, then your kidding yourself, and maybe you should become a priest.

Posted by: dave197391 | November 27, 2007 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Just watched the ESPN piece on Taylor and it truly is appalling. Instead of pointing out the rough start to his career (which I understand) and ending with the positive, they focused solely on the negative. They even ended the segment by saying that his best season, which ended with the pro bowl appearance, was "overshadowed" by the hit on Moorman. Bull crap.

Posted by: johnw | November 27, 2007 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 27, 2007 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Chadealeshire1 basically just contradicted everything he said on the previous thread. Read his above comment and then read this:

Go away Dude. Far Far Away. This comment section has become a way for Skins fans to communicate and voice their sadness and concern for Sean Taylor's family. It can't ALL be about you Bro! Seriously, I just read these posts and you stood out as SUCH a small brained fella. JLC has been posting for about 24 hrs straight now.
Don't you have like a hole to go jump in or something.

Posted by: chadaleshire1 | November 27, 2007 07:59 PM

Posted by: Barno1 | November 27, 2007 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Way to go Chad, BT... you guys got it right.

As far as ESPN... I think we should all email them and let them know how hideous they are. Has anyone seen anything on the NFL Network? I've been missing any coverage they've given Sean all day beause I've been watching more local stuff...

Posted by: dchesebrough | November 27, 2007 8:59 PM | Report abuse

That was a hard hit but their are numerous people who watched that in slow motion and said that he could have taken his head off and really hurt him if wanted to, but didnt. Notice he got right up.

Thats the misconception, their is almost no one else that can hit like that, isnt that what football is all about. So essentially he gets punished for being one of the best at his job.

Posted by: dave197391 | November 27, 2007 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Damn, can't we all just get along?!?!?!

Posted by: mlewis31 | November 27, 2007 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Barno. Dude.......I purposely said I had been guilty of it too. And you WERE the reason I got involved. But after reading additional posts, I realized it was a mistake.

Please go critique a political post or something. Your talent for critical analysis rules. But dude, people are grieving for a local sports star. Just let us. Everyone of your posts has this agenda beyond just sharing your thoughts on losing Sean Taylor. Please take a step back and hear me. You are right, I did get involved in it respoding to you earlier. I was WRONG! Please grow with me brother!

Posted by: chadaleshire1 | November 27, 2007 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Re: NFL Network. In the middle of NFL Access, Jamie Dukes, who I have never like, did a wonderful piece on Taylor in general.

Then, Dukes and Dieon Sanders had a conversation about black men, money, and decision making which I felt was a good start but neede more time to fully grasp the picture instead of trying to pigeon hole every black athelete in the same stance......

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 27, 2007 9:05 PM | Report abuse

BTW, I too saw the ESPN piece and it was disgusting to say his pro bowl appearance was tainted last year by him nailing the punter. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the punter DID have the ball in his hands, did he not? And the punter was doing a fake punt and trying to get a first down, was he not? And I suppose Sean Taylor in that situation is supposed to 2-hand touch him or pull the flag out of his belt like they were playing flag football?

The report was disgraceful, just like a lot of other coverage of this terrible tragedy. And we should not be quiet about the appalling coverage just being some dictators like Chadalshire demand that we shut up.

I already emailed the AP reporter who included irrelevant negative info about Taylor in his piece, and I got this response:

I appreciate your note. As you probably know, the person whose name ends up atop a story is just one of numerous compiling the article.

I'm at the scene of Mr. Taylor's house and didn't have a role in including the information you question. However, I've forwarded your message to editors involved.

Thanks for your understanding. Your message is in the appropriate hands.

Best,


MATT SEDENSKY
The Associated Press
Miami Bureau
305-594-**** office
305-450-**** cell (I don't want to include his personal info here)

Posted by: Barno1 | November 27, 2007 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Comcast has done a good job with thier coverage. I have not bothered with ESPN except for Mike & Mike this morning. I think the one thing that gets lost in all of this tragedy is the miracle that the killer did not harm Sean's fiance or baby girl. Sort of a glass half full prespective...

Posted by: BT23 | November 27, 2007 9:07 PM | Report abuse

And btw, I got a very eerily similar message from JLC yesterday when I complained to him about the irrelevant negative info (we'll just call it INI from now on). In the primary article covering the shooting on the WaPo, the byline included Amy Shipley and JLC...but that was news to JLC. This was his response to my email complaining about the INI in his story:

Dude I didn't write that article at all
I haven't even seen it. They must be pulling stuff off my blog
I called them and ripped the editors asses for it

DISLCAIMER: IF ANYONE DOES NOT BELIEVE THE INFO I'M POSTING ON HERE, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO POST YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS AND I WILL GLADLY FORWARD THESE EMAILS TO YOU.

Posted by: Barno1 | November 27, 2007 9:08 PM | Report abuse

I think Kelli Johnson should be applauded for her outstanding work. One can only imagine what she is feeling right now. Remember, she out of all the media personnel in DC was the only person Sean granted a one on one sit down interview with. For her to be standing outside that hospital, knowing that inside a guy that she has covered since he arrived and got to know personally has passed away. On top of that she has to get on camera in front of all of us here in DC and bring us the latest details with a calm presence. Kudos to Kelli Johnson.

Posted by: mlewis31 | November 27, 2007 9:11 PM | Report abuse

BT23,

I'm totally with you on that. Nobody wants to say this publicly, but to me it seems that if Sean Taylor did not get up out of his bed and try to go and confront the intruder(s), and just stayed in bed....then it is very likely we'd be talking about a double-homicide right now instead, and maybe even, god forbid, a triple-homicide. The fact that Taylor got up to defend his family may in all likelihood have saved his family.

God rest his soul.

Posted by: Barno1 | November 27, 2007 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone else get what I'm saying. Mr Barno just called me a dictator. Adhering to my own request, I will not respond.

I was hoping I would cause a groundswell of support for stopping the negativity. I clearly had too high an expectation. Post on Barno. I hope what i said hits home. Critiquing the media is almost pointless. I don't like the way much gets reported these days, but c'mon, it's the MEDIA. Listen to Perl Jam's RATS. Its all about the media. You won't make it change. I just thought this type of banter (mine included) was taking away from what this post offered us all and thought I would give a shot to being decent.

Posted by: chadaleshire1 | November 27, 2007 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Barno,

Blowing up a punter in the Pro Bowl is not kool dude, and don't even try to sell that stuff here.

It was the freakin' Pro Bowl!

Way over the line...

Posted by: gdennie | November 27, 2007 9:17 PM | Report abuse

i've been watchin coverage all day and have yet to see anything on nfl network...anyway, i do have to agree that espn needs to just stop their drama-filled coverage of this tragedy. hell, if i didnt know who sean taylor was, after watching espn i'd think that this was a suitable murder...

this is such a sad ordeal and there's no doubt that #21 will be greatly missed...in all honesty, i can completely see why ST didn't want to be involved with the media, what did he really have to gain?

defending your family is an extremely chivalrous way to go, unfortunately, no one should ever have to experience such a thing...granted that is all in a perfect world, which this is very far from...

thoughts and prayers go out to the taylor family and the entire redskins community

i really hope they catch this person that did this and fry the s*** out of em'

thanks again to JLC for the updates

Posted by: fredneck4000 | November 27, 2007 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Jesus, enough with this macho "defending the family" BS. As I mentioned in an earlier post, being a "hero" is small consolation when you're dead. If you hear an intruder in the house, immediately call 911, and figure out a way to secure your family and yourself as best as possible until the police get there.

I'm not blaming Sean Taylor, and I know that in the heat of the moment it's impossible to predict how you're going to react, but please, don't give the impression that grabbing a machete and going out to confront the intruder is the best possible course of action. It's absolutely not!

Posted by: gringoinmiami | November 27, 2007 9:21 PM | Report abuse

gdennie - playing devil's advocate would say "why in the world would you fake a punt in the pro bowl?"

Posted by: BT23 | November 27, 2007 9:23 PM | Report abuse

OK Gdennie he should have let the punter get the first down.

You would have been the first person saying that our safety stinks and he cant even stop the punter from getting the first down.

Ridiclous!

Posted by: dave197391 | November 27, 2007 9:25 PM | Report abuse

It's funny how ESPN say the hit overshadowed his Pro-bowl appearance, but have no problem putting it in their top ten hits of the year.

Posted by: kost52 | November 27, 2007 9:26 PM | Report abuse

gringo, I just read your [ost and am mulling it over. WHat is the right course of action there? I'm not saying yor wrong, but the guy or guys is in your house, your wife is in bed, your baby is in the room. What choice do you have? The phone lines turned out to be cut (though Taylor may not have known that) so you can't call 911 imediately.

I agree you have to think about being here for your family. But at 1:30 at night, dude in your house, what's the move?

Posted by: chadaleshire1 | November 27, 2007 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Saving your family is not macho BS, it is being a hero.

Posted by: BT23 | November 27, 2007 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Saving your family is the most appropriate thing to do. Thing about this scenario for a moment. Your house is on fire and you get out safely; however, the rest of your family is stuck in the house and you can hear their cries for help. What do you do? Stand outside and thank God your alive or do what you can to save your family? I'm sorry, but I'm going back into the house to either save my family or die with them.

Posted by: mlewis31 | November 27, 2007 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Most if not all would have done exactly what he did, get up to see what the noise is. Everyone has done that at some point, but no one had someone at the door with a gun. It was instinct and he died defending his family. It is honorable and couragious.

Posted by: dave197391 | November 27, 2007 9:32 PM | Report abuse

First of all, not that it matters that much, the phone line wasn't cut. Apparently the land-line wasn't in service. But Sean's girlfriend had a cellphone, which she used to call 911 after Sean was shot (and not before???) I imagine Taylor had a cellphone too.

So, the first thing you do is call 911. The second thing you do is find somewhere to get safe. If you're already in the bedroom, stay there. Keep the door closed. If you have a weapon, stay near the closed door and use the weapon if the door opens. If it doesn't open, don't do a damn thing until the cops arrive.

I know it's easy to say this when you're not in the situation. But my point is that there's nothing heroic in getting yourself killed. That little girl is going to miss her daddy (maybe the fact that I'm 38 and have a 2 year old child affects my thinking on this).

Again, I'm not in any way blaming Taylor or saying he deserved what happened. But I have a problem with guys who think there's something heroic about grabbing a machete and going out to confront an intruder in order to defend your family. Your family would prefer to have you alive.

Posted by: gringoinmiami | November 27, 2007 9:35 PM | Report abuse

The punter Moorman didn't have a problem with the hit put on by Taylor so no one else should.

If Taylor had a bullet proof bomb shelter or something, maybe then calling 911 would be the right avenue to go. If someone is already in your house and wants to get to you they are going to well before police arrive. May not be consolation to his daughter and fiance but he may have saved their lives by sacrificing his own.

Posted by: cdubb | November 27, 2007 9:36 PM | Report abuse

unfortunately that machete wasn't a gun, maybe things would be different...then of course, murder charges would have prob stemmed for taylor

Posted by: fredneck4000 | November 27, 2007 9:37 PM | Report abuse

gringo, you're assuming he knew it was an intruder. How do you know it's not just the house creaking, or a mouse or the wind outside. How? You go and investigate.

If every household called 911 everytime someone heard a noise in the night there would be millions of house calls made by the police.

Posted by: kost52 | November 27, 2007 9:39 PM | Report abuse

The hardest thing to understand is how, after your house has been broken into, you don't have a damn good security system installed or upgraded. I don't know, I guess the whole damn tragic thing is just absurd and senseless.

Posted by: gringoinmiami | November 27, 2007 9:42 PM | Report abuse

gringo - I certainly agree with that

Posted by: BT23 | November 27, 2007 9:43 PM | Report abuse

I truly pity anyone on this board who feels compelled to point out their negative opinion about what Sean may or may not have done before his death.

The truth is none of you know anything other than what you saw on the field, and the one incident that was reported to death in this newspaper. None of those things made him deserve to be gunned down in his own house.

I truly hope you people are able to find whatever is missing in your life that allows you to react to something so horrible with such callousness and thoughtlessness.

Posted by: 21fan4life | November 27, 2007 9:44 PM | Report abuse

gdennie - playing devil's advocate would say "why in the world would you fake a punt in the pro bowl?"

Posted by: BT23 | November 27, 2007 09:23 PM

My 1st laugh all freakin day!!! Thanks for that. Maybe Etrod and those other guys can get us some new sean taylorisms later this week or next so we can laugh some more......

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 27, 2007 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Also, if the intruder really wanted to kill Taylor's family, there was nothing stopping him from doing it after he shot Taylor. If it was a burglar there's a good chance that he shot at Taylor after Sean came out of the bedroom with a machete.

Then again, if it was someone who had it in for Taylor and did want him dead (what the hell is up with the kitchen knife left on the bed after the first break-in???), then maybe waiting in the room with wife and kid might have put them at risk. Who knows, the whole thing is just so damn senseless...

Posted by: gringoinmiami | November 27, 2007 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Gringo, what is driving you to continue questioning whether Sean made the right decision in his house when you know absolutely nothing about what happened, other than there was an intruder in his house threatening his family?

Like someone above said, he may have prevented his entire family from being murdered.

Your continuous attempt to cast negative light on Sean's actions right before he died is nothing but repugnant.

Posted by: 21fan4life | November 27, 2007 9:47 PM | Report abuse

dcat495, I think you're getting me wrong. I'm not attacking Sean Taylor. After something really horrible and f-ed up happened, I'm asking could something have been done differently, is there something to learn from?

Now, I could be totally wrong, it's just my gut feeling. I think that when Taylor grabbed the machete and walked out the door of his bedroom he put himself at risk, unnecessarily (and as I posted earlier, by not taking security measures after the last break-in). It's not meant as a negative judgement against Sean Taylor, just a word of caution. You're free to disagree.

Posted by: gringoinmiami | November 27, 2007 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Gringo, I'm not getting you wrong. This isn't the time for your rampant armchair CSI speculation. The man just died. You have no idea what would have happened had he not left the room by himself, and you sound like a fool for trying to.

Posted by: 21fan4life | November 27, 2007 9:59 PM | Report abuse

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