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Skins-Eagles: the Westbrook Factor

Without a doubt, the single most important factor in this week's game is the health of Eagles running back (and D.C. product) Brian Westbrook. He missed last week's game with an ankle injury and the Eagles are not nearly the same team without him. He keys everything they do on offense. He is the ultimate versatile, match-up problem.

The Redskins must focus their game plan on shutting him down, regardless of his health. Westbrook's little brother Byron, a corner on Washington's practice squad, will no doubt get the duty he always gets - mimicking his Pro Bowl big bro on the scout team. Without him, all of those screen-pass threats - the ability to take a short check down against the blitz 80 yards to the house - pretty much go away. Without him, the Eagles' primary red-zone option is gone.

Westbrook already has three rushing TDs and two receiving TDs - in three games - while his teammates have combined for six TDs. Philadelphia's fast start began to slow when he was injured in a 15-6 victory over Pittsburgh, and his absence was a major reason for Philly's loss to Chicago Sunday night.

One scout who watched that Philly/Chicago game noted the Eagles' ailing health as the chief reason the Bears prevailed (we honed in on this last Wednesday, a brief interlude to look ahead while still deep in Dallas Week).

QB Donovan McNabb is still hurting from a huge shot to his sternum a few weeks back. Phily's O Line is very beat up, with stalwart guard Shawn Andrews has a back injury. Tight end L.J. Smith has a back injury, too. Neither played against the Bears. WR Kevin Curtis, like rookie DeSean Jackson a burner who can exploit seams against Cover-2, is still recovering from preseason hernia surgery.

"The Bears caught Philly at the right time," the scout said. "They are really banged up."

Which prompts the question: might the Skins be catching them at the right time, too? Knowing Westbrook, he will play if at all possible, but with the interior of Philly's line in a bit of disarray, it still may not be enough.

By Jason La Canfora  |  September 30, 2008; 11:30 AM ET
 
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Comments

So what is the weakness on the D?

Posted by: alex35332 | September 30, 2008 9:44 AM | Report abuse

So what is the weakness on the D?

Posted by: alex35332 | September 30, 2008 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Which team are you speaking about?

Posted by: Pleepleus | September 30, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Pleep,
The iggils.
and repost
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I dunno about screens, I think the eagles have too much speed for that.

I would not mind some quick out's on an overload side where you get a WR or TE or two making a block so the guy who get's the ball can turn it up field. But the eagles still look quick enough to stop a screen in the backfield. Better off with a downfield short yard play where they still pick up 2-3 yards regardless.

Posted by: alex35332 | September 30, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

I always worry about the whole Byron Westbrook thing. I mean you have one guy on a practice squad making 50k/year. You have his brother on another team making millions and the less monetarily fortunate brother gets a crash course in the D's tactics for containing him.

Posted by: Gweez | September 30, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

This is going to be an angry Philly team, wounded lion style, backed into the corner in their stadium in front of their hostility-prone boobird fans... they're probably going to feel like they're fighting for their season in this game, not wanting to fall two or three games behind the other three NFC East teams...

I don't like this at all, feels like a setup, unless the Skins are ignoring every single thing being written and said about them this week and staying medium, noses to grindstones, maps...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | September 30, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

I also worry about overuse of the WR screen and those delayed handoffs in the Skins' offense... unless we're using those plays as decoys to keep the Ds off balance... we've seen a LOT of that so far... but I trust in Zorn to put together a solid plan and in this team to execute it! I do! I believe! Just sayin' is all...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | September 30, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Philadelphia's fast start began to slow when he was injured in a 15-6 loss to Pittsburgh,
*******
Uh, the Iggles won that one. Not lost it. I guess a week ago is a stretch for our blogger.

Posted by: splitbill | September 30, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Last NFC East game for a while ... thankfully. A game like Dallas takes a toll on bodies. Soooo thankful no one got seriously hurt. The Philly game, like Dallas (maybe more so), also is going to be real real physical. Awesome move to rotate in so many guys on the roster. Seemed like nearly everyone played, and not just on special teams. Seems like a good idea to reduce mileage.

Notwithstanding the huge huge huge win, I just can't exhale. Any ideas why Skins are 6.5 point underdogs? Is it just the matchup btwn Philly's LBs and Jimzorn's short/intermediate pass playcalling?

Posted by: dcsween | September 30, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

I also worry about overuse of the WR screen and those delayed handoffs in the Skins' offense ...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | September 30, 2008 11:47 AM

Agree about how it seems that most of the runs up the middle have been draws, and that they draw so often that they have become effective at FAKE draws.

Posted by: dcsween | September 30, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

nate,

From what I heard Fletch do I think this team is getting ready for Ohilly and not worrying about any thing else.

The D could have taken Monday off and basked in the glory of the win but Fletch had them all in there watching tape to see what they did wrong.

Zorn was a QB I think he understands you can not read your press clippings. These guys will be focused and ready to play, if they get beat it will not be for lack of effort.

Posted by: Flounder21 | September 30, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Where did you hear 6.5 underdogs? What was the excuse by that site.

Philly is at home and usually that gives an extra 3 points in most minds.

Posted by: alex35332 | September 30, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Nate,

You've got it right. This is definitely a trap game. The Iggles are staring 2-3 in the face if they don't win this one. They will want it bad. Will the Skins want it more?

Like many NFL games, it may come down to just that.

Posted by: Good2bOK | September 30, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

The Eagles react very poorly to boo's and the fans never seem to understand that. They think it encourages them to play better but it sends them in the other direction. Having been to the Eagles-Skins game the past few years I can attest to this first hand. The Eagles have on of the worst linebacking groups in the NFL. Bradley is playing at a level that is maybe the worst in the NFL right now. The rush the linebackers wildly on almost every down because putting them in coverage is close to worthless. Go back and watch the Cowboys vs Eagles and take a look at how bad Bradley is playing.

That being said, if the Skins can get the ball out quick and run some draws the over agressive Philly D won't stand a chance. If they can do that early and get the D to back up a bit then they can go for 5-7 step drops and attack Dawkins the rest of the day. The key is to go at BDAWK - aka prosseor X or whatever asshat name they have for him now.

The best part of the Philly experience is when they show clips of Rocky before the game starts because as we all know a fictional boxer is the only sports hero that city even has.

Posted by: Pleepleus | September 30, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

I worry about this game, too. We just put forth a tremendous effort to be the Cowgirls in Dallas, and a lot of people will be tellin our boys how good they are and all that this week. Do we get big heads or do we stay focused and realize we have a chance to get through the toughest stretch of our schedule at 4-1?

We will see...

Posted by: mrizzle | September 30, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

One scout who watched that Philly/Chicago game noted the Eagles'

Oh I see JLC is back to the oh scout told me. I notice he you haven't said anything abot your source/scout/personnel guy saying anything to you about the Skins anymore. And hell no I am not going to let this guy!

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | September 30, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Im in agreement Nate. I think this is our hardest opponent from a matchup standpoint in the BEAST. They have a lot to lose in this game, we already got our win on the road they are trying to defend their own field and not get burried early. cant call it a trap game because we know the stakes but were going to be playing a team on a mission.

Posted by: Stu27 | September 30, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

i worry about westbrook. on a 53 man team he can win a game single handedly.

Posted by: dealer1 | September 30, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Where did you hear 6.5 underdogs? What was the excuse by that site.

Philly is at home and usually that gives an extra 3 points in most minds.

Posted by: alex35332 | September 30, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

The reason is becuase Philly historically is always given too big of a line while the Redskins are always thought to be a joke.

Look at washington aginst the spred and look at the iggles against it. That should give you the answer.

Posted by: Pleepleus | September 30, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Nate - right fair analysis - we could find ourselves on the wrong end of a long afternoon here

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | September 30, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

note to self...
gweez=skinz
icetotalpackage=jm220

Posted by: dealer1 | September 30, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

The best part of the Philly experience is when they show clips of Rocky before the game starts because as we all know a fictional boxer is the only sports hero that city even has.

Posted by: Pleepleus | September 30, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

No they also had a special teams guy who made his start in his 30's, the movie was not really a success or failure, just good enough to get made, just like him.

Posted by: alex35332 | September 30, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

I'm mostly worried about Hank Baskett the third. He is a BEAST!

Posted by: Pleepleus | September 30, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Wow, my hangover is finally down to a level 2.......GREAT WIN SUNDAY!!!!!!
Everyone's effort for 60 minutes is what makes me the happiest. Good team effort.
Let's hoope that the Skins don't get cocky this week. Philly can be very tough at home, and have got to feel like this is now a must win for them.
Let's hope Springs and Smoot are ready to go.
One of the greatest things (IMO) to come out of this early season is that Zorn is the Head coach, not just our QB coach or offensive coordinator. If he was, there would be all kinds of talk about him getting scooped up for a shot with another team, but he is our guy. Love it!
Is it Sunday yet?

Posted by: dlhaze1 | September 30, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Well, sween, on the topic of real real physicalness, we knew going into this season that Redskin football was violent, physical, violent f***ing football. So if any of the players didn't get the memo, shame on them.

I'm sure Mr. Bugel is available to provide refresher courses on an ad hoc basis.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | September 30, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

GLEW also puts some fear in me. GLEW is the man!

Posted by: Pleepleus | September 30, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't even classify this as a Trap Game. This is just a tough game against a div. opponent in their backyard. We should be dogs in this game.

Posted by: Gweez | September 30, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

DeSean "hes gone" Jackson might want to think that name. I have a feel Landry is going to put a new meaning to it.

Posted by: Pleepleus | September 30, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Flounder, thanks for the reminder on Fletch F. Fletch... good golly do I love that guy. He's the gift (from Gregg Williams) that keeps on giving.

And how heartwarming it is to hear about one of our leaders leading... another hallmark of a team that 'gets it' and can therefore do great things...

Which reminds me how thrilled I was to see Thrash's guy fall down so he was free in the end zone and Soup found him for that TD... a guy who's been given up on a thousand times up here, but who everybody on the team says is a locker room favorite, hardest-worker, I'll-do-anything-you-ask type... the players' reaction to his TD must have been 100x my reaction...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | September 30, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Deal, just to update you, "BeantownGreg=Greg(Boston), just in case you were curious....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | September 30, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Well I guess I'm Redskins91 now, although I enjoyed my time as Rep. Heath Shuler.

Anyway, the Eagles seem to have big time injury problems every year. Andy Reid used to be one of the best at "plug and play" but over the past few years it seems their backups are not the caliber they once were.

Personally, I think the Iggles are already overrated (whatever that means) this year. Their secondary is supposed to be stellar with the likes of Brown, Samuel and Shepphard, but they couldn't slow Dallas down one bit. Plus Kyle Orton pumped in three against them.

Meanwhile the Packers were able to contain Dallas... and I think whoever the Cowgirls played last week (can't remember who) put the brakes on their offense.

In other words, I think the Redskins have a legit shot at going 4-1. It will be a tough game through and through, though.

Posted by: redskins91 | September 30, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

This is definitely a trap game.

Posted by: Good2bOK | September 30, 2008 11:54 AM

If the Eagles are favored by 6 or 7, then you can't call it a "trap game." At least, it's not a trap game for the 'Skins. Let's hope it's a trap game for the Eagles.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | September 30, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I agree that the term "trap game" doesn't quite fit, but again we are flying high after three straight wins, including the last one on the road against our biggest rival, and now here we are on the road to either our second or third-biggest rival depending on who you ask...

...and these feathered dudes are licking their wounds after losing two out of three... after their blowout win over the coach-firin' Rams, it's been tough sledding for these Iggles... grr...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | September 30, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

If I am reading our coaching staff correctly, Bugel and Blache aren't going to let these guys get cocky. This is the NFC East, I don't believe there is one player on this team that thinks there is an easy game to be had in this division.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 30, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

These Iggles still rank 3rd in overall defense and like everyone says, they will look at this as a must win game, particularly at home. Once again we must have a mistake free game on both sides of the ball to go 4-1.

6.5 seems like a lot to me considering this is a divisional contest in the toughest division in football. Any one know the over/under?

Posted by: splitbill | September 30, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

6.5 seems like a lot to me considering this is a divisional contest in the toughest division in football. Any one know the over/under?

Posted by: splitbill | September 30, 2008 12:23 PM

I think it is 43-44 depending on what site you look at.

Posted by: Flounder21 | September 30, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: TWISI | September 30, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

This is definitely a winnable game for the Skins, although it will likely be pretty damn tough. The big question is how the Skins will handle the heavy blitzing and pressure on the QB that the Iggles are able to generate. Omar Gaithers is a beast. So I'm interested to see what game plan Zorn and crew come up with to handle the Iggles pass rush.

This is definitely not a must-win-game for the Skins. Obviously a win would be huge and would set us up nicely going into a stretch where we play a bunch of sub-.500 teams. But as others have already commented, after that awesome win in Dallas, we are playing with the house's money. So a loss wouldn't be too big a deal. We still get all NFC East teams at home later on.

Also, I think that the Gints present more of a match-up problem for us than the Iggles. Mainly I think Brandon Jacobs is a bigger problem than Westbrook for our D.

Posted by: gringoinmiami | September 30, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

We're a mere 171 posts from 250k....

Posted by: Cindy Boren | September 30, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Good link, TWISI. I have a question that I'd like WaPo to shed some light on. What exactly is Sherman Smith's role? I understand that Zorn is calling the plays. So what's Smith's role in designing the game plan and also during the game? Whatever it is, seems to be working so far.

Posted by: gringoinmiami | September 30, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Brandon Jacobs seems to won us a bit, but Westbrook has sort of whipped up on us as well....

Oh the humanity!

Posted by: chrislarry | September 30, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

This team has got to avoid the trap in Philly.

They've got to concentrate, play mistake-free football and "bear down."

Posted by: Stumped1 | September 30, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Cindy,
That's great.

What happened, I submitted a comment and looked away and when I checked again it was finished.

Wheres the burning and the churning? Where's the hanging comment?

We may make 200k by COB.

Posted by: Stumped1 | September 30, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

I tell you what, JC's new quick release and quick reads plus his ability to find the hot route is going to be tested this weekend. If he can continue to do what he has done the last few weeks (avoid pressure, step up in the pocket, and RUN!) our offense can put up some numbers.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 30, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

For the stat minded.

Further evidence that Philly may be a trap.

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/2_999_Defensive_Passer_Rating_through_Week_4.html

Posted by: Stumped1 | September 30, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

From PFT,

LITO SHEPPARD UNHAPPY WITH ROLE ON EAGLES
Posted by Michael David Smith on September 30, 2008, 9:54 a.m. EDT
For much of the off-season, many fans assumed that the Eagles were going to trade cornerback Lito Sheppard, since they already had Sheldon Brown and spent big money to acquire Asante Samuel.

The trade never came, though, and all three cornerbacks are on the team, with Brown and Samuel starting and Sheppard coming in as the nickel back. Sheppard isn’t happy about that.

In an appearance on Comcast’s Monday Night Live, Sheppard wondered allowed why he doesn’t get more playing time: “If you say you want to win and do this and do that, then why aren’t all your best players on the field at the same time or when they need to be?”

Per Philly.com, when the host of the show told Sheppard it sounded like he might not be in Philadelphia all season, Sheppard agreed.

“Well I mean obviously the way things are going, it leads me to believe that,” Sheppard said. “So until things change otherwise, I mean, I’m not naïve to the situation.”

Sheppard said he won’t do anything to be a distraction to his teammates, but he did express displeasure toward the Eagles’ front office.

“They just want this year to go by and it does what it does and then we’ll see how it goes at the end of the season but that’s not satisfying to me,” Sheppard said. “I need to be playing and I’m more than able.”

Prior to this season Sheppard had started every game he’d been healthy for in the last four years. Sheppard has played all four games this year, but he hasn’t started any, and he estimated he’s only on the field for about 30 percent of the Eagles’ defensive snaps.

I will take any turmoil I can get.

Posted by: Flounder21 | September 30, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

This is going to be an angry Philly team, wounded lion style, backed into the corner in their stadium in front of their hostility-prone boobird fans... they're probably going to feel like they're fighting for their season in this game, not wanting to fall two or three games behind the other three NFC East teams...

I don't like this at all, feels like a setup, unless the Skins are ignoring every single thing being written and said about them this week and staying medium, noses to grindstones, maps...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | September 30, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Nate, I don't disagree with your analysis(it smells like a trap), but I DO THINK that a) Redskins have already adopted an "us against the world" mentality. They see how they were picked to finsih 4th, they see how the other teams get all the national pub etc etc, and b) Zorn gets it and the players ALL are feeding off of his passion and committment to WINNING (vice not losing, there is a difference) and c) the players have all bought into the team first philosophy and are doing the extra things it takes during the week to be best prepared to win the following Sunday.

There are enough veterans on the team to keep the hype factor minimized inside of Redskin's park. Fletcher, Kendall, Carter, Cooley, Jansen(no pouting, ready to play every week), Moss, ARE all have been around the block and are providing TEAM FIRST veteran leadership. I think Zorn and the players really are taking it one week at a time and they all realize Dallas is over, and now its on to the iggles. They will be ready. I think the Redskins themselves still see that NOBODY outside the DC area is really giving thme credit...and they don't really give a rats ass either way.

As a dislocated fan, i depend on the various sources to keep up with the team. Watching the interview videos on redskins.com, I sense that the players all get it, and they know that they still have a lot of work to do to get to the level that they all think they are capable of reaching. They feel fortunate to have won these games and are focusing on correcting the mistakes they are making. Most came in on an off day to watch film... think that is happening in St Louis? Oakland? Detroit? (fill in loser mentality team of your choice here). I know this: Nobody wants to play the redskin's right now, and as for the Redskin's themselves, I think their attitude is more like "Ok, who do we get to go out and brawl with this week? Lets get it on, b*&^%es", but they keep that to themselves and use that passion to best prepare to win by focusing and studying during the week. Its a beautiful thing.

Hail.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | September 30, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Not sure if its been discussed but D. Frost is hanging on by a thread shorter than his hang time.


By TOM SILVERSTEIN
tsilverstein@journalsentinel

Frost avoids release point
Punter apparently to get another shot
Though Frost is coming off two poor games, coach Mike McCarthy gave no indication that he intended to make a change. McCarthy didn't make any excuses for Frost's performance in the 30-21 loss to Tampa Bay on Sunday, but he said it was indicative of the way things went for the entire special teams unit.

"We need to punt the ball better, we need to punt-protect the ball better," McCarthy said Monday. "The punt protection was not what it was supposed to look like. We've been very strong on special teams maybe the first two contests, but the last two weeks, this is probably as bad a performance as we've had on special teams in some time here."

On five punts, Frost averaged 38 yards gross and 30.2 net.

The worst punt came in the fourth quarter with the Packers backed up in their territory with a 21-20 lead. The ball was low, traveled just 38 yards and was returned 19 yards to the Green Bay 36. The Buccaneers drove just 30 yards for the go-ahead field goal.

His best punt was a high spiral that bounced inside the 5-yard line and could have been downed before it went into the end zone had rookie cornerback Pat Lee located the ball in the air.

"He had a good warm-up," special teams coach Mike Stock said. "The week before (against Dallas) it was a little scary. I just held my breath for the game. This week was a whole lot different. He was much more consistent and looked a little more comfortable and relaxed.

"That's what he has to do in the ball game."

On Monday, Frost appeared to be a guy who knew his days are numbered if he doesn't improve his performance. Entering play Monday night, he ranked 15th in the NFL in gross average (44.9) and net (37.9).

After two poor games, Frost, who was signed the week of the season opener to replace Jon Ryan, said his approach might be to ratchet up the pressure on himself.

"I thought about it," Frost said. "I don't think I'm pushing hard enough. I seem to do better when I have pressure on me. I don't know why that is. I almost feel like maybe I'm too comfortable or too relaxed. I've thought about anything I could change to try to bring a little more intensity to the game."

Posted by: will_ga | September 30, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

And Lito is not happy and is POed at teh front office. See what i mean?? Lovely.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | September 30, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Frosty is inconsistent and hitting low line drives that get huge returns???

Shocking. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

And Brooks is looking better and better? Not shocking at all as far as I'm concerned.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | September 30, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

GRINGO IN MIAMI: Purely speculation on my part,I think Sherman Smith formulates the offensive gameplan for Zorn and JC and during the game on sunday Smith and Zorn make adjustments as far as the ebb and flow of the game is concerned.Sunday's game in Philly is another step in JC's maturation process and he'll do as said a thousand times just fine, its important for this mix of vets and rookies to stay grounded and focused.

Posted by: dargregmag | September 30, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Did Gweez in a post above actually insinuate that one of our players would tell his brothr the defensive schemes we intend to use to stop him? I really hope not, but that is how I read it.

Posted by: dbrine1261 | September 30, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

we might just loose this game...how do you spell loose? is it lose or loose?

greg, thanks...got it... any other regs change their name?

lisa_r=literal lisa
imjustme=just me

btw...what happened to redcoat?

stumped, it's 250K you're shorting 50K...that represents about 2100 man hours...i'm not going to do much...i'm tired...maybe after some caffiene boost later in the day...

Posted by: dealer1 | September 30, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

I doubt that Westbrook will be a go this week. He has a high ankle sprain, and that injury takes several weeks to heal because the ligaments have been damaged. Coming back too soon may lead to recurrence of the injury. Even if he does play, I don't think he will be his usual deadly self.

Will the Iggles choose risk of further injury to a limited Westbrook over the risk of going 0-2 in the division without him?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | September 30, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

If the eagles lose, is their season already over in some respects?

Posted by: alex35332 | September 30, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Did Gweez in a post above actually insinuate that one of our players would tell his brothr the defensive schemes we intend to use to stop him? I really hope not, but that is how I read it.

Posted by: dbrine1261 | September 30, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse


Yeah (s)he did. I ignored it as both ignorant and stupid, on several levels not the leat of which is the mini salray is somewehre near 8 times 50k.

Secondly, i don't really think its flash traffic around the league to the iggles that teams focus on on stopping Westbrook as aprt of their defensive scheme.

Third, Big Westbrook would be stupid to try and corrupt little Westbrook becaseu Big Westbrook knows that one of the reasons Little Westbrook has a job is to help his team prepare for Big Westbrook.

Fourth, it would be incredibly dishonorable. Mama and Papa Westbrook didnt rasie their sons that way. JB(a fellow DeMatha alum) on CBS did a story on Big Westbrook and Mama's iron fisted values teaching at home during this past weekend's pregame show. Caught it in DFW(of all places) getting ready to fly back to HNL.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | September 30, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Westbrook is great because you have McNabb spreading the ball around. McNabb is the key and must be hit early and often. I want his body to look like Rocky Balboa's face at the end of the game.
btw Wounded Eagles are dangerous too.. Lions are from Detroit.

Posted by: jercha | September 30, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

DID EVERYONE FORGET WE WENT ON THE ROAD MONDAY NIGHT LAST YEAR AND BEAT THE EAGLES!! WHEN EVERYONE THOUGHT WE WOULDNT THE YEAR WE WENT TO THE PLAYOFFS WIT 10-6 RECORD WITH BRUNELL AT THE HELM WE WE BEAT THE EAGLES..ON THE ROAD..AND I CAN SAY FOR CERTAIN..THAT WE ARE A BETTER TEAM..NOW AT THIS POINT EARLY IN THE SEASON THAN WHERE WE WERE AT THE END OF THAT YEAR..SKIN FANS..I HATE TO GET HOPEFULL..BUT WE CAN WIN THE NFC EAST AND GET A FIRST ROUND BYE..WHEN I FIRST SAW THE SCHEDULE..I WAS HURT..GAINTS EAGLES AND DALLAS ALL IN THE FIRST WEEK ON THE ROAD..WE CAN RUN THIS THING..HELL YEAH

Posted by: holywood_thud03 | September 30, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Lions are from Detroit.

Posted by: jercha | September 30, 2008 1:24 PM

and have been wounded for about as long as anyone can remember -- at least since Barry Sanders walked away from the game in 1999

Posted by: talent_evaluator | September 30, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Yeah (s)he did. I ignored it as both ignorant and stupid, on several levels not the leat of which is the mini salray is somewehre near 8 times 50k.
...

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | September 30, 2008 1:22 PM

Gweez is way off on this issue but he/she is not too far off on salary. Practice squad players are paid significantly less than active roster guys. The minimum salary for practice players is $5,200 per week for 17 weeks, or $88,400 per season versus the NFL minimum rookie salary of $295,000 this season.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | September 30, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Gweez is way off on this issue but he/she is not too far off on salary. Practice squad players are paid significantly less than active roster guys. The minimum salary for practice players is $5,200 per week for 17 weeks, or $88,400 per season versus the NFL minimum rookie salary of $295,000 this season.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | September 30, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

I stand corrected on the slary issue. Thank you. I still think my other points are valid and that Byron and Brian would not do any dirty dealing.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | September 30, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

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