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Third QB Dissertation

From the tone of some comments yesterday I figured a diversionary entry was needed this morning. Try this one on for size. It's even somewhat positive.

There has been a lot of confusion among the fans and us in the media about the dreaded third QB rule, a particular area of interest in these parts with the Jason Campbell saga and all. I've received several emails about this lately, and wanted to make sure we were on top of it. So I spoke to some people at the NFL yesterday to get the official rules that apply to QB Version 3.0.
The rule states that if a third quarterback is inserted before the fourth quarter, a team's first two quarterbacks cannot be used in the game at any position . Another aspect of the rule is sometimes misunderstood. It is a coach's decision as to whether a third quarterback will be used. The active quarterbacks do not have to be injured for a team to use its third quarterback.
So there we have it, straight from the league.

The idea of rookie status in the NFL continues to bother me as well. I consulted my main man Howard Bryant, resident seamhead and part of baseball's literary emeritus society, for a refresher on the MLB rules. As I thought, Howard tells me you could carry a player on the 23-man roster all season, never use him in a game, he comes to spring training the following year, and is still a rookie. Anything fewer than 130 Abs/15 innings pitched, and you come back next season as a rookie. I know in hockey a player must appear in like 20 games or so before losing his rookie status. You could be signed to a two-way contract for 4 years, get recalled from the minors for a game or two each year, and still win rookie of the year the following year.

All of that makes sense to me.

In the NFL however, Jason Campbell will never have the opportunity to win the award through no fault of his own. He is considered a first year player even though he has never even been on the active roster for a game his entire career since being nabbed in the first round in 2005.

So here's where I lift your spirits:

Imagine JC getting the nod in Week 9 and playing like Steve Young. The Redskins become an unstoppable force, rally around the kid and reel off nothin' but wins to sneak into the playoffs. Sounds pretty good, eh?

But, according to the NFL, even such a heroic run would leave Campbell ineligible for the Rookie of the Year award. That just seems odd to me. By the NFL rules, someone could have come to Miami's training camp and be cut like two days in, and drive a garbage truck the rest of the year, then come back the following year and sign with, say Green Bay. And you're a first-year player.

So in this case, you'd just have to hope for JC to win league MVP or something, which is not too shabby in its own right.

By Jason La Canfora  |  November 1, 2006; 12:10 PM ET
 
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JLC, the thought of JC starting is positive enough for me. The dream of "The Redskins become an unstoppable force, rally around the kid and reel off nothin' but wins to sneak into the playoffs," is almost unbearable.

Rothlispoopy did it in his first year, and he truly was a rookie.

Methinks this positive energy is a curse. I was all set to have no expectations. DAMN!!

I'm going to go back to daydreaming now. Thanks for getting my blood pumping, JLC.

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | November 1, 2006 12:22 PM | Report abuse

"The Redskins become an unstoppable force, rally around the kid and reel off nothin' but wins to sneak into the playoffs. Sounds pretty good, eh?"

Just one problem Jason, you just wrote your article on the Redskins horrible defense. Unless Jason Campbell plays DB as well as QB, we're screwed. Two way superstar that leads his team to the playoffs... and still isn't ROY... he'd have to be MVP then.

Posted by: Dorf | November 1, 2006 12:23 PM | Report abuse

I know the league does not allow subterfuge with regard to injury, but is there any rule preventing a head coach from saying one player is going to start, only to start another player at game time for reason other than injury? Is there any hope Gibbs is just messing with Parcells by saying Brunell will start?

Posted by: Mark | November 1, 2006 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Question: You say if the 3rd QB enters before the 4th, then the first two can't play again. Does this mean that in blowouts, in the 4th quarter, there's really nothing stopping Coach Gibbs from putting Jason in?

Posted by: Citizen Jake | November 1, 2006 12:27 PM | Report abuse

What happened to the negative-toned Jason we have all learned to love? Kidding - thanks for providing an uplifting, albeit far fetched, scenario. I HATE DALLAS.

HAIL!

Posted by: CO Skins Fan | November 1, 2006 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Jason, I imagine... I can't... I've lost hope and my imagination :(

Posted by: Franky Four Fingers | November 1, 2006 12:35 PM | Report abuse

So basically as long as Campbell is the 3rd QB we will never see him inserted into a game. Gibbs is too cautious (scared?) to take the risk of Campbell getting hurt and having no one to fall back on. Here's hoping JC cracks the active roster and is at least the 2nd QB this week.

Posted by: Raub | November 1, 2006 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Great stuff JLC. However, doesn't Campbell have to be active in order to get put in the game?

Posted by: jm220 | November 1, 2006 12:36 PM | Report abuse

I would love nothing more then to see No. 17 head to the huddle at some point this Sunday. That's all I ask...I'm so sick of seeing screen passes (No. 8, I'm referring to you).

Posted by: Jesse | November 1, 2006 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Far Fetched - Way

Complaints - No Way

Posted by: 4th Floor | November 1, 2006 12:42 PM | Report abuse

I'm flustered by our strategy of giving JC the first team reps while keeping him as 3rd string. As much as I'd love to see JC as the clear cut 2nd stringer, if you're not even going to give him backup honors then let Todd Collins take the reps because he might actually see the game. Or, alternatively (and preferably), just make Jason Campbell the damn backup.

Posted by: Skin Patrol | November 1, 2006 12:51 PM | Report abuse

This has to be one of your most boring entries by far...Any news from Redskins Park?

Posted by: Fred Sanford | November 1, 2006 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Are you serious Jason? You are lamenting the fact that JC won't be eligible for any rookie award when the poor guy will be giddy at the mere thought of taking a snap. Forget the awards, at this rate JC will be another of those multi-year veteran QBs with no starts

Posted by: Bart | November 1, 2006 12:53 PM | Report abuse

This just in. Getting blown out Gibbs inserts JC in the second half only to have him go down after two plays.

Givin no choice, they insert ARE and institute the Wishbone backfield with Duckett, ARE and Portis. They run up 400 yards rushing and beat the breaks off the Cowgirls and run the table the rest of the way. Gibbs retires from football tying Chuck Knox with 4 SB wins.

Hey....a guy can dream can't he?

Posted by: Skinz | November 1, 2006 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the changeup Jason.

Let's all consider for a moment that Campbell gets into the game. Will that change the playcalling?

I'm thinking that same 8 yard screen is still getting called.

Posted by: Ali Haji Shank | November 1, 2006 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Skin Patrol,

My feeling is, and i think this was reinforced by Romo's half during the Gmen game, that he doesn't want to throw JC to the lions. He'd rather have a full week to "coach em up", design the offense around him and get the reps.

Posted by: Skinz | November 1, 2006 12:56 PM | Report abuse

It's nice to imagine Jason Campbell eventually becoming the starter and reeling off a bunch of wins. Let's also imagine a defense that can stop someone, an offense that runs some play other than the dump pass and a team that doesn't self destruct with penalties. Then, let's imagine we have some draft picks next year and some hope for the future. At this point we might as well imagine the Redskins are the Patriots or some other winner.
BTW thanks for doing this JLC. It's nice not suffer alone.

Posted by: Hopeless in Richmond | November 1, 2006 12:58 PM | Report abuse

"Then, let's imagine we have some draft picks next year..."

I'll believe that when me sh*t turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbet.

[read this line in a high-pitched, Irish accent]

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | November 1, 2006 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Skinz-

Joe Gibbs will never have more time to set up a Jason Campbell game plan (with a full week of reps) than he has now with the bye week. If he really wants time to coach JC up, the time is now.

And even while Bill Parcells was waiting with Tony Romo, he was still the backup. We don't need to thrust JC into a game at the half when he isn't ready, but we can at the very least put him on the sideline in a position to take over the offense if -- god forbid -- Mark Brunell's rib starts hurting again.

Posted by: Skin Patrol | November 1, 2006 1:06 PM | Report abuse

JLC,

This sort of highlights two problems with the Skins. One, Brunnell stinks!
Two, Our Defense stinks! Neither problem seems to have an answer that will show itself in the near future. I guess we see what the Buffalo folks disliked about Gregg Williams. HE CANT PICK THE GROCERIES! Oh for the love of Charley Casserly is their anyone who can help us?
Most organizations shift their emphasis to doing everything to get ready to get the new quaterback ready to play (see the Giants plan for Manning) as soon as possible. This organization acts insulted that we keep asking why they are driving the old 1970 Buick instead of rolling out the new 2005 Mustang that's sitting in the garage. It's a young man's game. If it wasn't Joe Montana, Steve Young, Joe Theismann or Sonny Jurgensen would still be playing (maybe not Theismann). Brunnell is 36! For crying out loud. It is for this same reason that Old coaches don't last. They see old players and think they are not so old. Younger coaches see guys near them in age and know they shouldn't still be playing.

Posted by: DMAN | November 1, 2006 1:10 PM | Report abuse

JLC who took the reps today? How is Moss and CP looking?

Posted by: jm220 | November 1, 2006 1:11 PM | Report abuse

I'm thinking that same 8 yard screen is still getting called.

Probably. Screen passes are usually used to slow down the rush. But, I did come across a great article on screens by non-other than Chan Gailey who says that screens are used a lot of time for QBs who have lost their confidence and are struggling to make downfield throws. They're easy because the QB doesn't have to read coverages or dodge any rushes and it builds their confidence back up.

He also said, that while he was in Denver, if John Elway had had a bad game, the coaching staff would start him off with 3 or 4 slip screens so he could build his up confidence.

How low is Brunell's confidence if we have to start him off with 22 consecutive screens?

Posted by: Megskin | November 1, 2006 1:12 PM | Report abuse


This entry has clearly cemented
My theory that Jason's demented.
It's as likely to be
As a streaking Cindy
(Tho we'd pay should that chance be presented!)

Posted by: HaikuMan/LimerickMan | November 1, 2006 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Patrol,

I'm in total agreement about the bye being the time to get him into the game.

I was simply pointing out that I thought that was his reasoning behind the decision.

Posted by: Skinz | November 1, 2006 1:15 PM | Report abuse

It's as likely to be
As a streaking Cindy
(Tho we'd pay should that chance be presented!)

HaikuMan/LimerickMan now that is funny. I have wondered during those late nights if she running through WP offices streaking. (lol just joking with you Cindy)

Posted by: jm220 | November 1, 2006 1:17 PM | Report abuse

No updates yet...local media can watch practice till 2:30.

Posted by: Jason's editor | November 1, 2006 1:18 PM | Report abuse

I'm loling, haikuman and jm! This may surprise you, but the Washington Post kinda frowns on employees streaking on the premises. Policy seems to date back to an unseemly incident involving Woodward, Bernstein and Bradlee.....

Posted by: Jason's editor | November 1, 2006 1:21 PM | Report abuse

The NFL stands for "Not For Long" The Giants plan for getting Manning ready included dropping the "high priced" gunslinger who used to be great but now is only great for carrying groceries the moment the kid shows he can complete a pass. (Also see the Titans plan for getting the next quarterback ready)
Memo to Joe: 2-5 record means you're not going to the playoffs. Get the kid in there now so that we can think about winning again and possibly making the playoffs next year(again reference the Giants plan).

Posted by: DMAN | November 1, 2006 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Megskin-

Or maybe we call screens because, at 37, Mark Brunell has difficulty throwing it down the field accurately. Check out the drastic drop off in completion percentage once the ball travels more than 10 yards:

Pass Thrown 1-10 yds 71 of 96 74.0%
Pass Thrown 11-20 yds 10 of 31 32.3%
Pass Thrown 21-30 yds 8 of 18 44.4%
Pass Thrown 31-40 yds 1 of 6 16.0%

There's nothing unusual about accuracy declining the further down the field one throws, but these drop offs are severe enough to raise questions. Also revealing is that his attempts at these distances are considerably lower than the league average both in absolute terms and as a percentage of all throws.

Posted by: Skin Patrol | November 1, 2006 1:22 PM | Report abuse

>>> "As a streaking Cindy"

Hmmm, there seem to be blog crushes ("blushes?") all over the place here.

I'm still blog crushing on Jessica Simpson, thank you very much.

Posted by: P Diddy | November 1, 2006 1:24 PM | Report abuse

I weep sweet, sweet tears of joy at being mentioned in the work of haiku/limerick man.

Posted by: Jason's editor | November 1, 2006 1:26 PM | Report abuse

I disagree on the rookie status argument pretty much completely. In the NFL we have seen (though with lessening frequency) how much a year or two on the bench helps a QB develop.

Take Philip Rivers - should we really considered him a rookie? He is playing the most important position on his offense with two years of study and practicing the sytem constantly under his belt. Giving the award to someone like that would be completely unfair to a true rookie.

Posted by: Nobody's All-American | November 1, 2006 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Policy seems to date back to an unseemly incident involving Woodward, Bernstein and Bradlee.....

Just had to take the "Deep Throat" thing in that direction, didn't you, Cindy?!? :)

JLaC - when you get back to us, any change on the status of Rocky McIntosh, while we're talking about changeups in the depth chart? Is he actually getting a bit more time on the field, or is Greggers still treating him like Biggus Gimpus?

Posted by: FlimFlam | November 1, 2006 1:27 PM | Report abuse


Woodward, Bernstein, and Bradley
Working naked I'd not want to see!
But the ban on the practice
Was for them, not the fracus!
So Cindy go streak with glee...

Posted by: HaikuMan/LimerickMan | November 1, 2006 1:28 PM | Report abuse

JM220, NOW THAT IM BACK LET ME REMIND YOU AND LISA THAT IF YOU BLOG ABOUT ANOTHER BLOGGER EXPECT A RESPONSE,DONT WHINE LIKE A BOZO SKINY FAN SISSY!IF YOUR FEELINGS GET HURT THEN YOU DONT BELONG ON ANY BLOG.NOW RUN ALONG AND CHANGE YOUR DIAPER.AS FOR FOOTBALL SKINYS HAVE HAD AN EXTRA WEEK TO PREPARE FOR BOYS SO IF YOU DONT WIN IT WILL PROVE HOW BAD YOU REALLY ARE!!AND IT WILL TAKE MANY YEARS TO FIX!!BOYS HAVE BEEN BUILDING THROUGH DRAFT 4 YRS,WITH SOME FA ADDITIONS HERE AND THERE NOW ITS TIME TO SEE HOW THEY HAVE DONE!!! hehehehahahehahahaahahehah

Posted by: BOOFER | November 1, 2006 1:33 PM | Report abuse

So T. Collins could be a 36 year old rookie??

Posted by: Max | November 1, 2006 1:36 PM | Report abuse

First off, why in the hlel are you breathing so hard in the freaking elevator, man? We came in the freaking building the same way...I didn't see any freaking stairs. Why are you breathing so hard?

Second, the code. Obey the code. It must be obeyed! Everyone knows it. Just ride the freaking elevator man. I know that its one of these interesting human phenomenon ...why don't we talk? why do we not make eye contact? etc. But you don't need to be the trailblazer that disrupts the eternal rhythm! I know its weird, like all human interaction stuff, but who freaking cares. Obey the code...

Maybe you don't know the code.

Here is the code:

1) Don't talk unless you work in the same office, or something happens in the elevator that makes you in common (ie the elevator isn't working, gets stuck, etc)

2) Don't look at me when I'm sneaking my look at you. When I'm looking up at the numbers, or down at the floor, then you can take your look at me. If the elevator is mirrored or otherwise reflective, do the mirror-glance cautiously.

Thats the end of the code.

You, sir, will not be my roommate.

Posted by: SallieMae | November 1, 2006 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Jason, This has to be your worst post. Not only you had nothing to report but you diturbed the flow of this blog with this nonsensical-trying-to-please-all post.

AGAIN, YOU WERE REPORTING FACTS! THIS TEAM SUCKS (right now)!!!!

Also, I thought that you listen to us on this blog? Please don't set a prescedent of listening to the e-mails more than you listen to us. E-mails defeat the purpose of having blogs. It's very CHEEZY to e-mail a blog host. It's as bad as staying after class to talk to your teacher about something that was discussed during the class.

If Meg and others have something interesting to dish. Let them dish it here. And we'll decide if it's worthy of a weekly award or not. Right editor?

Everyone has their own opinions about what is talent and what is crap. So far I've only seen one masterpiece and it was the titanic by "CP or something". But that's just me. More people here vocalize their support for "megskin" than the Titanic piece. But I'm okay with it. I understand it. I don't write you up an e-mail telling "megskin" just regurgitated some crap off of a website and plaigerised other blogger's ideas...(meg, i'm not saying you did either of that...just tyring to prove a point).

So if you really mean what you say "it's about you guys" then LISTEN TO US. LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE WHO're actually on the blog.

I was the one who called you a "team wrecker" but I was being sarcastic. No one on here should, (and i thought wasn't) be offended by what you've posted so far about the team.


Sincerely,
your neighborhood Genious

Posted by: littery genious | November 1, 2006 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Boofer to go after a woman they way you have just shows how much of a loser you are. Just show up on Monday you clown.

SallieMae just say no. I have no idea why you even post. You must be Boofer little sister.

Posted by: jm220 | November 1, 2006 1:45 PM | Report abuse

BOYS LOSING TO SKINYS WOULD BE LOSING TO A VERY BAD TEAM,WHO IS AT THE BOTTOM IN MOST STATS.IF YOU CANT BEET THE BAD TEAMS THEN CHANCES TO GO ANYWHERE ARE ALOT MORE DIFFICULT.AND BOYS ARE CLEARLY THE BETTER TEAM(NOT THAT YOU WILL AGREE)LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!hehehe

Posted by: BOOFER | November 1, 2006 1:45 PM | Report abuse


SallieMae, why do you keep breaking John from Herndon's heart?

Posted by: HaikuMan | November 1, 2006 1:46 PM | Report abuse

"I'm still blog crushing on Jessica Simpson, thank you very much."

That's fine P Diddy. I can get with that.

Can we just not mention Christina Aguilera again? I felt drrrty just hearing someone call her hot.

As far as blog crushes, jm220 loves all the ladies. We know this...

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | November 1, 2006 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Wow, 64% of passes under 10 yards? That's crazy. Patrol, where did you get those numbers?

Posted by: Harvey Martin's Funeral Wreath | November 1, 2006 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Joe in Raleigh

Needa roommate? *wink*

Posted by: SallieMae | November 1, 2006 1:47 PM | Report abuse


Littery Genious
Needs to go bob for apples
With anchor necklace.

Posted by: HaikuMan | November 1, 2006 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Bucktown Skins Fan

I am not into SallieMae she just seem a little out there for me. Christina Aguilera mmmmm now your talking. lol

Posted by: jm220 | November 1, 2006 1:51 PM | Report abuse

jm220-

get a life.

Posted by: Anonymous | November 1, 2006 1:54 PM | Report abuse

JM220 GO AFTER A WOMAN THE WAY I HAVE? ARE YOU KIDDING ME YOU DISREGARD THE JUST KIDDING PART.DUDE YOU CONCERN ME.GO TAKE YOUR MEDICINE.AS FOR FOOTBALL THE ONLY THING THAT CONCERNS ME IS EMOTION AND THAT CAN BE A HUGE POWER FOR A BAD TEAM,BOYS HAVE GOT TO SMACK SKINYS IN THE MOUTH RIGHT AWAY TO SET THE TONE!!hehehe

Posted by: BOOFER | November 1, 2006 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Littery,

Like the name but disagree.
#1 Why do you care who emails JLa.
#2 It's a blog, as you can see by idiots like Sallie and talents like Haiku it's best and worst quality are the same. It's unfiltered and unfettered access to post and it's mass reach.
#3 Whether right, wrong, good or bad. It's Jason's Blog and he'll write what he wants to. This is not a democracy. It's a benign dictatorship.

Posted by: Skinz | November 1, 2006 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Jebedieah,

Please stop doing the "hehehehe" at the end of your illegible postings. I'm starting to visualize you like a big gravy fry eating Fat Albert.

Seriously, Lisa throws herself out to the wolves as "petite blonde" and you guys are gonna disrespect here talking about Christina Aguilera? Haikuman would never do that to Megskin. Blog stalking 101: Thou shalt only blog stalk, those who can't put you in an outline of chalk.

SallieMae - you're postings give me shivers. Seriously. Straighten up.

Anyone wanna guess how much leftover halloween candy is withing 11 meters of me? Over/Under is 13 lbs.

PG

Posted by: Pub Golf | November 1, 2006 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Lisa is a petite blonde. Who doesn't love that. Cindy is a womanin authority. Someone that can take command. You got to love that. Megskins just seem like somone that can challenge you mentally. Got to love that.

Posted by: jm220 | November 1, 2006 1:57 PM | Report abuse

im starting to think that if JC got into the games he might be more capable of making the quick reads and throws down field that are part of the Al Saunders offense. My understanding is that Brunell is not making quick reads and throws and instead getting happy feet and trying to A.) improvise...which he is degrading at doing...or B.) hit the check down back...we certainly arent going anywhere with this offense if he is incapable of adjusting himself and making the quick reads and throws this system requires...

i saw on the NFL network last night that they were saying (i think it was Faulk) that they think its time that the skins follow the cowboys lead and play JC and that he might be better suited to make the quick reads and throws the system requires and be better suited to buy himself more time if the pocket colapses and he needs to improvise as he has the athleticism to do it and the arm strength to then make the down field throws...and its time to see if he can be smart and accurate and progress to the potential that they saw when we drafted him...

im starting to switch my position on the QB situation...im losing faith in gibbs loyalty that brunell gives us the best chance to win now...

they (the tv experts) say the time is now...im on the fence...its either time to make the switch now and give it a shot and if it dont work we still get to see what we have in JC...OR...brunell gets one more game to prove he can adjust to the quick reads and throws of the system...otherwise we have to look to the future...

im almost on megskins bandwagon...i almost hope that his current abdominal muscel injury is going to keep him out of the game...

long story short...brunell either turns it around this weekend or we look to the future...we need to know what this kid can do so we know if we need to draft a brady quinn for our future...

the skins problem is continuity or lack thereof...the D is hosed for that reason with all the letting the non broken pieces go and subsequent FA bust moves etc...the offense would have had it if they had not gone to Al Saunders...but whats done is done...Saunders should stay...his system works with the right QB...but we need to build continuity around his system with the right QB...either that is JC or brady quinn for the future...and some upgrades at the O line to take care of our QB of the future and give him a fighting chance...otherwise all the pieces on O are there...

On D...well they just need to stop letting the right pieces walk and start adding intelligent pieces to fill the needs...and Grilliams...let alone gibbs and saunders...needs to take a lesson from Bilicheck and learn to develope game plans and strategies and systems for each game/opponent...instead of forcing the same thing week in and week out...flexibility...

bilicheck changes his system every week...quite often between series...between plays....

that team can play a 3-4, 4-3, play dime, nickle, use 7 linebackers, 8 dbs, 0 linemen, 6 linemen whatever...they do it all and can change it up from play to play let alone series to series, half to half or game to game...and when you have that kinda flexibility and TEAM FIRST committment from the players, you can blitz from anywhere and the O wont have a clue...

its the NFL in the 21st century...its all about Flexibility and being able to make system/strategy adjustments during the game...let alone at half time...

hell just go to a 3-4...our front 4 arent getting any pressure and having 4 linebackers makes it harder to figure out where your blitzing from than with just 3...

foster a TEAM FIRST MENTALITY...no player is above the TEAM...and if they think they are...those are the people you let walk...

continuity, chemistry and TEAM FIRST!!!

its do or die time...get busy living or get busy dying...and im tired of this death crap!!!

Posted by: deadskin | November 1, 2006 1:57 PM | Report abuse

This isn't a positive post. It is a what if post. That's what your respondants are suppose to do.....

WE WANT DALLAS

Posted by: Anonymous | November 1, 2006 1:59 PM | Report abuse

BOYS HAVE GOT TO SMACK

Oh that is funny Boofer. Except for last week game. You girls haven't put the smack on anyone. Williams had a chance too against Plax. But what does that clown do, run over the ref.

Posted by: jm220 | November 1, 2006 2:00 PM | Report abuse


//Haikuman would never do that to Megskin.//

Too funny, but true. I cyber-respect my cyber-fantasy cyber-women. What cyber-self-respecting cyber-poet wouldn't?

Cyberly yours.....

Posted by: HaikuMan | November 1, 2006 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Deadskin,

"im starting to switch my position on the QB situation...im losing faith in gibbs loyalty that brunell gives us the best chance to win now..."

Welcome to our side. Another convert....egggggcellent.

Good points on Billy from Boston's Boys on D and team unity. I agree 100%. Get on the Scott Peoli bandwagon with me.


Posted by: Skinz | November 1, 2006 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Completely off topic, but worth mentioning because I think it's funny, and I've lost almost all of my will to rehash two week old Redskins debates:

Yesterday, I was walking out of my office in downtown Manhattan to go get a haircut. I crossed Fulton Street, and walked under a section of scaffolding (I swear to God that it covers 50% of the downtown sidewalks in a randomly shifting pattern, like Dark City... but I digress) and noticed a sign hanging down.

It was a Yoga studio's new banner, placed there so that people could recognize the location. There original sign was covered by the previously mentioned scaffolding. I started to read the sign, which had not only a very spirtual illustration of a meditation pose, but a listing of the classes offered. I read through the list, intrigued as I realized that they also offered dance classes -- ballroom, salsa, pole dancing... WHAT!?!

Yes... pole dancing. These are the first three thoughts that ran rapidly through my head:

1) I did not know that you could teach pole dancing. I thought it was a natural-born talent, like height.

2) A Yoga studio seemed like the absolute last place in the world that you could get a lesson in stripping. Do you think they give a disclaimer, like your local college campus head shop, "hey, you know this pipe is for tobacco use only right?" (wink wink). Maybe the Yogi says before each class, "now you all know these skills are only to be used for relationship and intimacy building exercises, right?" (wink, wink)

3) Here's where the Redskins link comes into play. I wondered if this place was privately funded by Big Boi and/or cPort. Who's seen their respective Cribs episodes?


I really need the Skins to play a football game right meow...

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | November 1, 2006 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Bucktown,

What's a good Skins bar in Manahattan. I spend some weekends up there for work. I used to go one where you had to reserve seats. Kinda in NoHo/Little Italy but then some bouncer started murdering people there and they shut it down.

Posted by: Skinz | November 1, 2006 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Hey jm220, you don't consider 45-14 AT Tennessee a smack? How'd your lameass skinz fare against Tennessee, at your own house. Look I know you are desperate to salvage some respectability for your atrocious team. But at least stay within arms reach of reality.

Posted by: SMACK | November 1, 2006 2:09 PM | Report abuse

skinz, i don't care WHO writes jason. i care about the content of the e-mails. which shouldn't be e-mails they should be comments. as meg pointed out in her faq's he reads all of our daggone comments.

if you want to dish out personal info to jason on an e-mail that's understandable (by me). BUT to actually discuss his posts is unacceptable via e-mail or discuss skins via e-mail. it's brown nosing. i hate that as much as i hate paligerism.

also jason says it's not his blog it's our blog. is he being like el presidente gibbs when he says that or does he really mean it? because i gave him the benefit of the doubt and believed what he said. if that isn't the case then you're absolutely right he can post whatever the heck he wants. you won't hear a peep out of me.

ANYWAYS!!!

what's the status on practice? any word? actually busy today and am not listening to the radio...

Posted by: littery genious | November 1, 2006 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Pole dancing is all the rage with the semi-empowered woman crowd. I think it's easily the dumbest thing I've ever seen, but, hey, I'm all for exercising. I'm also all for yoga.

Me, I'm struggling with the "Adam Archuletta Workout". After ten minutes, my backside is burned so badly that I need to go sit on ice for the rest of the day.

Posted by: P Diddy | November 1, 2006 2:11 PM | Report abuse

JM220, YOU ARE A TYPING MINE FIELD,ALL THE OTHER BLOGGERS READ YOUR RESPONSE AND SHAKE THEYRE HEADS BECAUSE OF THE AMMUNITION YOU GIVE ME!!LET ME REMIND YOU OF THAT B**CH SLAPING BOYS PUT ON YOUR SORRY TEAM AND WE SLAPED THE OTHER BAD TEAMS AROUND!!BUT IM MORE FOND OF THAT BUTT WOOOOOOOOOOOOPING WE GAVE YOUR TEAM.I LUV YOUR KNUCKLEHEAD RSPONSES!!hehehe

Posted by: BOOFER | November 1, 2006 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Harvey Martin's Funeral Wreath-

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/2485/passing_splits.html

Few points of note:

As a percentage of total passing yards, the Washington Redskins have the highest Yards After Catch at around 58%.

Mark Brunell has only attempted 18 passes to the middle this year or about 9% of the time.

72% of Mark Brunell's passes were thrown either behind the line of scrimmage or within 10 yards of it. To compare, here are numbers for other QBs:

McNabb 65%
Manning 60%
Bulger 65%
Huard 67%
Rivers 66%
Palmer 67%
Brady 71%

The above are all higher rated passers than Mark Brunell, despite their willingness to make more difficult throws. Speaks volumes.

Posted by: Skin Patrol | November 1, 2006 2:15 PM | Report abuse

P Diddy - you *outed* me. where is my boo hoo box? It's all good and fun anyways.

Will you be my roommate?

Posted by: SallieMae | November 1, 2006 2:16 PM | Report abuse

salliemae go away

Posted by: Richard Cranium | November 1, 2006 2:17 PM | Report abuse

SallieMae, I've met some of those CraigsList types. They all have hair growing out of their eyeballs and personal hygiene issues.

Posted by: P Diddy | November 1, 2006 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Smack beating Tennessee gets you know points.

Boofer you win over us wasn't a beat down son. A beat down was what T.O. got from the Reaper. That's why he couldn't catch those passes.


Posted by: jm220 | November 1, 2006 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I was at The Falls for the Dallas MNF game last year. Hmmmmm... good karma that comes up now? Methinks possibly.

Mercury Bar is an official Skins bar. I have some buddies who organize there for the games. Here's a note from one of them from before the season:

The Mercury Bar (on the Eastside - 3rd Ave b/w 33rd and 34th St) will now host Redskins games. Every week the Skins game will be shown exclusively on 8 TVs, including 2 big screens.

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | November 1, 2006 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Factoid- Chuck Knox won exactly zero Super Bowls. Probably thinking of Chuck Noll.

Posted by: kurosawaguy | November 1, 2006 2:19 PM | Report abuse

>>> "Completely off topic"

The most boring posts here are the ones that are on topic.

Post away, I say!
Post today, post tomorrow,
Post blogs everyday!

Posted by: P Diddy | November 1, 2006 2:21 PM | Report abuse

"I consulted my main man Howard Bryant, resident seamhead and part of baseball's literary emeritus society, for a refresher on the MLB rules. As I thought, Howard tells me you could carry a player on the 23-man roster all season, never use him in a game, he comes to spring training the following year, and is still a rookie. Anything fewer than 130 Abs/15 innings pitched, and you come back next season as a rookie."

I wonder if that "rookie" still has to carry the other guys' luggage if he comes back for that second year with fewer than 130 ABs or 15 IP. Does he get hazed again?

That would suck.

Posted by: Ali Haji Shank | November 1, 2006 2:21 PM | Report abuse

I find it interesting that BOOFER "speaks" in UPPER CASE, but "laughs" in lower case. Why doesn't he laugh as loud as he speaks?

Posted by: QFB | November 1, 2006 2:22 PM | Report abuse


Ironically,
SallieMae unable to
Secure college loan.

Posted by: HaikuMan | November 1, 2006 2:23 PM | Report abuse

"i care about the content of the e-mails. which shouldn't be e-mails they should be comments"

My point is why? Why do you care? I have absolutely no interest in emailing Jason personally however: Maybe someone wants to interact with his "celebrity". Maybe someone wants to be a writer and sees this as an "in". Either way it makes no difference to me and I don't see it as inherently detremental to the blog.

Also, I said the dictator thing now him. I don't want to put words in his mouth but the fact remains. Any blog he posts is good for the bloggers. Are some Junk? Yeah, I'm sure but they stimulate comments.

As you said Anyway, i'd like the answers to the questions you asked regarding today's practice so whatup JLa?

Posted by: Anonymous | November 1, 2006 2:28 PM | Report abuse

OK, OK

10 reasons why I continue to search for updates to this blog and hope I see updates, like, every 15 seconds:

1. I'm sitting here picking my nose. Literally. It's time for some new material, so my hands aren't so bored that they wander up for an exploratory mission. One of these days one of the fingers (like Captain Oates) won't come back.

2. I can't remember which of the last batch of Redskin Insider blog entries I didn't read, so I am terrified to read ANY of them in case I get one I've seen, become upset, and cry. I yell something obscene, glare at the cat, then hover over one of the links, tempting myself to click it, but I can't do it. I just can't. So the cat gets ANOTHER glare.

3. Darn, why did I chose to write TEN reasons? Ten is a pretty big number. Sigh....

4. My friend is starting to complain that it hasn't been updated. Not only am I so pathetic that I spend a large percentage of my waking hours checking it, but now I am reduced to talking about Redskin Insider blog entries with people in real life. Yes, I do have a real life. But it is slowly amalgamating into one amorphous Redskin Insider blog amoeba of Rants, Raves, and stats.

5. There's very little good humour in CapHill. Unless, of course, you think racism, poverty, and (apparently) single fathers (??) are funny. Give me a tower of midgets on a bicycle, and I'm amused for hours, but I just can't get much of a giggle out of single fathers. Unless they are midgets. Acrobatic midgets. With exceptional balance and poise. Wiggle what you jiggle pudding ... Hmmm, I miss Irvine (oops, did I say that?)

6. I have budget work do finish about 7 1/2 inches away from my mouse. It's looming like a dark cloud with swirly mist (ok, there's no swirly mist, it's just my eyes glazing over). I'm usually pretty good at procrastinating (For example - 17 popsicles isn't enough, I need more; I'd better check to see if my music has finished downloading, 3% WTF!!!!!!; Gosh, I never noticed how beige my walls are, I like beige...) but Redskin Insider blog entries has been the cornerstone of my time-wastage.

7. Alright, I'm back. See how quick that was? I need MORE. I need BEST OF Redskin Insider blog entries

8. Redskin Insider blog entries offers exposure to new ideas, other cultures, and the lives of people in other cities. Fine, fine, that's codswallop. Right? Oh nuts.

9. Redskin Insider blog entries offers exposure to new ideas, other cult -- shoot! My brain is atrophying from lack of new material. In addition, I just smelled something funny and leaned over to smell my feet (turns out it was the no-name brand dryer sheets. Stupid dollar store - isn't the purpose of dryer sheets to REMOVE weird foot smell?). This is what it's come to, Redskin Insider blog friends. Smelling my own feet. Thanks a lot, now my neck hurts.

10. It just took me about 29 minutes to write this. That's plenty of time to click the button on the giant WP machine that tallies the comments (100 was a milestone once? Now 500?). I came up with 10 (count 'em, 10 - well, ok, really only 9, not counting this one, and 8 because of #3, and well, some of my reasons sucked, so maybe 5? 5 is good. Lets go with 5) divided by 2 reasons why this should be updated. That's a significant number, considering I'm really just a lazy, needy, bored with no motivation while at work. Reward me for my sloth. Reward me, Redskin Insider.

Posted by: SallieMae | November 1, 2006 2:31 PM | Report abuse

jm220, you are really reaching. And what the hell are "know" points. That actually sounds like a good thing.

Posted by: SMACK | November 1, 2006 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Bucktown.

Posted by: Skinz | November 1, 2006 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Thinking about last year's spanking of the Cowgirls at FDX got me to thinking about some wonderful memories of watching that game.

I was in Cabo in a bar at a timeshare that was full of the Cowgirl Nation. Mostly people who had never set foot in Dallas and couldn't name the QB that last started before Aikman.

Anyway as the game progressed, and it became evident that I was the only Skins fan in house, complete with my # 6 Haji-Sheikh jersey on, I got more and more dirty looks as I cheered the progress of the game (or as Boof would put it, the "WHOOOOOOOOPIN").

The scoreboard continues to light up and one by one or in small groups the Cowgirl Nation starts to dwindle out of the bar. Goodbye cowboy hats, goodbye boots, goodbye faded silver, goodbye frosted hair.

Soon, it was me, the bartender, and a couple of drunk Seachickens and Chargers fans debating whether Largent or Jefferson was the better WR.

The final whistle sounded and I took off, bloody mary in hand and ran 50 yards into the surf.

I was so happy that the celebration began on the spot and lasted until well after 4 am when we finally got kicked out of Squid Roe for allowing a few "acquaintances" to fall off of the wall dancing area a few too many times.

Ahhh, good times. There's nothing like beating Dallas is there?

Posted by: Ali Haji Shank | November 1, 2006 2:34 PM | Report abuse

JM220, YOU KILL ME,YOUR DENIAL IS PRICELESS.SKINYS SCORE 3 PTS IN 4 QTRS AND THATS NOT BEING SMACKED BY A D? REAPER THE PEEPER GAVE UP 2 TDS(BOY FANS LUV THIS GUY)NO FEAR BOY.POOPIS PORTIS SHORT ARMED A SCREEN PASS IN TEXANS GAME,IT HAPPENS BUT WHO WINS IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT.THATS NOT YOUR TEAM BOZO SKINY FAN!!hehehahahehaheha

Posted by: BOOFER | November 1, 2006 2:35 PM | Report abuse

THIS UST IN:

BOY FANZ LUV SEAN TAYLOR.

Posted by: Skin Patrol | November 1, 2006 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Smack that should have been you don't get any point for beating Tenn.

A beat down is when you smack a team around for 4 periods. On both sides of the ball. Which you team didn't do. You won the game but it was far from a beat down.

Really reaching is what T.O. should have been doing when coming across the middle. Oh that's right he has no heart just like you and Boofer who only show when your team is winning.

Posted by: jm220 | November 1, 2006 2:38 PM | Report abuse

It seems like these blog comments often go on a "hater-tots" tangent.

I know the skins are breaking our hearts, but lets not turn on each other. What else is left.

BTW - The numbers on Brunell (Comp % based on screen, short, mid, long) are not only telling, but scary. The 'Skins regime is more stubborn than I, and probably most of the other bloggers, thought.

JC was considered a young buck
As he sat, all screamed "What the F#*k!"
When he finally got in
He said with a grin
Its time we change this teams Luck!


No Haikuman, but wishful nonetheless.

Posted by: bringbacktheposse89854726 | November 1, 2006 2:39 PM | Report abuse

You know what's great? Beating Dallas is the pinnacle of life for Skins fans, and to us, Skins are just another team. That pretty much establishes the pecking order. What's the fascination with Dallas? If you could "get up" for every team the way you do for Dallas, maybe you wouldn't be 2-5.

Posted by: SMACK | November 1, 2006 2:39 PM | Report abuse

I am now drinking the Kool-Aid. . .

I shall not go all caps because well that's been ruined by he who shall remain nameless.

It's Dallas week and frankly as sad as it is if we beat the Cowpukes (I'm going to go all PC and say I won't call them girls cause I think girls can kick a** and I think there are a whole buncha girls who could play better than us right now) I'll be able to hang on the rest of season without defenestrating myself.

So Bring On Dallas! Romo's honeymoon is over, he'll be eating FedEx turf all day long even Archebingus will get a hand on him, T.O. will be crying on the sidelines after the Reaper takes him out and gets an INT and ARE is going to throw an 80 yarder to Moss on an option play that'll make you weep. . . and then well the blog the blog the blog and make sure to send your boo hoo box to Boofer

mmm Kool-Aid so tasty so refreshing so sweet!

Posted by: sfskin | November 1, 2006 2:43 PM | Report abuse

What's the fascination with Dallas?

Smack that is the question you and Boofer should be asking. What's the fascination of staying on a blog of a team I claim I hate so much.

Posted by: jm220 | November 1, 2006 2:44 PM | Report abuse

I don't write you up an e-mail telling "megskin" just regurgitated some crap off of a website and plaigerised other blogger's ideas...(meg, i'm not saying you did either of that...just tyring to prove a point).

You mean I could have just stolen other peoples ideas or cut-and-paste barf from some poor schmuck's website? Dangit, and to think, all those eff-ing hours spent researching the '85 season by the light of a candle up until the wee hours of the night, what a complete and total waste.

Well hey, guess I'll know better next time.

Posted by: Megskin | November 1, 2006 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Smack,

"You know what's great? Beating Dallas is the pinnacle of life for Skins fans, and to us, Skins are just another team. "

1. If it's not a big deal they why are you on our blog? We aren't on yours.

2. It's because unlike you and most of you "fans" we know the history of the two teams. We know about Allen and Landry's hatred of each other. How the Skins owner blocked the Cowboy expansion team for 4 years until the soon to be Cowboy's owner bought the rights to "Hail to the Redskins" and then bartered the rights back for his vote. Because we know your first owner said all he cared about was beating the Redskins.

It's called being a true fan.

Posted by: Skinz | November 1, 2006 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Actually I'm here all the time, I just change my name along with the subject matter. You might know me as Canes or TJ Duckett. I figure I have to live in this town for my job, so I might as well wreak some havoc while I keep my Skins knowledge fresh. I need to since most of my friends are Skins fans, and they need to be stifled even more often than you do.

Posted by: SMACK | November 1, 2006 2:45 PM | Report abuse

1) I have a picture of 'the fat soulless mercenary' aka 'The Pig', staring at terrina glenn as she came off the field with the scorebord reading 35-7 in the background. It will be my desktop photo until I'm dead.

2) I now just skip Boof's posts. have you noticed how he types his laughter? Look at it. Its like a epilieptic kid being tickled during a fireworks display. His posts are like the dudes that perform on the subway in new york, you know what they are doing and you try not to look becuase then everyone is embarrassed.

3) I hate dallas so much.

4) We should all take some 'calm it down' pills on the emailing of JLC. Again, the dude has given us the forum. Let's just stay focused on hating dallas.

5) I don't want to see all of us get hurt here. I have said so before and will again, we are not going to see Campbell until we are mathematically eliminated from playoff contention or Brunnell cannot walk. There is a reason the dude isn't the #1 guy right now. There is also a reason he isn't the #2. There is no way he knows what to do on the field. I don't blame him at this point. If I give up that much to get a guy, you had best believe I make it my business to have him ready to drive the car ASAP.

Always remember how dispicable dallas is. Never forget this.

Posted by: ArtMonkToTheSticks | November 1, 2006 2:46 PM | Report abuse

This is Dallas week. From now until Sunday night, remove all negativity from your thoughts, and focus your energy waves upon a victory for the Redskins. If we all do this, we will defeat Dallas. Don't be the one person who blows it for us.

Posted by: Pappa Legra | November 1, 2006 2:47 PM | Report abuse

That's pretty friggin' funny about the song.

Posted by: SMACK | November 1, 2006 2:48 PM | Report abuse

All these calls for JC to be put in...what're the odds that Gibbs does the same thing he did with Ramsey last year?

Posted by: Flayed | November 1, 2006 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Courtesy of my roommate who doesn't do this blog, but has a deep-seeded infatuation with the Redskins, Limericks, and Haiku

Brunell really jumped the shark the just couldnt generate the spark
now the skins are in trouble
looking outside the playoff bubble
but my dawg JC's coming to bark.

Posted by: bringbacktheposse89854726 | November 1, 2006 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Flayed damn you! I am not listening. La la la la la la la

Posted by: jm220 | November 1, 2006 2:54 PM | Report abuse

i wonder if the skins are going to play their guts out this sunday?

Posted by: ez e | November 1, 2006 2:55 PM | Report abuse

That's the worst limerick I've ever seen.

Posted by: SMACK | November 1, 2006 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Smack-

Do you seriously not know the history of the Dallas Cowboys and Redskins rivalry? If not, why are you a fan of the Cowboys? Are you at all familiar with their history?

The reason the Redskins and Cowboys is (according to Sports Illustrated) the greatest rivalr in sports is for any number of reasons. It might be because first Cowboys owner Clint Murchison got tooled around by Redskins owner Preston Marshall on a deal to buy the Redskins (which later lead to him buying the fight song, which Marshall's wife had written, from the disgruntled band director of the Skins).

It might have something to do with the Redskins becoming the first team in 1972 to steal the Division title from the Cowboys since division play was instituted in 1967.

It might have something to do with 30 years of unmitigated multi annual games where the winner of any particular game will ultimately go to the playoffs (if the cowboys had closed out last year's 14-13 suprise win, for example, they'd be 10-6 against the Redskins 9-7 and would be the wild card in their stead).

You may think this is "just another game" for Dallas, but you'd be in the minority of Cowboys fans. I don't know when the last time you were in Dallas was, but people down here take it pretty damn seriously.

Posted by: Skin Patrol | November 1, 2006 2:55 PM | Report abuse

JLC/Cindy can we get an update on what happened at the park today?

Posted by: jm220 | November 1, 2006 2:55 PM | Report abuse

i wonder if coach gibbs will be praying on the sideline.

Posted by: ez e | November 1, 2006 2:56 PM | Report abuse

...wee hours of the night...

meg, honestly you're insane. you're a true non-lazy fan.

personal question, and you have my permission to ignore it if you'd like.

is the troll a skins fan too? imnsho he just can't be a football fan. it's like being married to a doctor when you're...well in the litter binness.

Posted by: littery genious | November 1, 2006 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Honestly,it is really less important as to which QB is put in to replace Brunell (Collins or Campbell) then the simple fact that SOMEBODY be put in to replace Brunell.

The way I see it, we are not only trying to figure out what we have in terms of a future QB in Washington, but also what we have in terms of an offensive coordinator. If the thought of a "rookie" QB starting makes the coaching staff uncomfortable then don't start him. But Brunell's time as the starter is long gone. In fact, he had no business being here to begin with. But, Saunders, who is getting a hell of a lot of money to run HIS offense here and make it work is being forced to run HIS offense with Brunell at the helm, who CAN'T RUN THE OFFENSE! He even said as much himself, that he hasn't adjusted yet. So, what is the difference between Brunell or Campbell who are both trying to learn the offense? The only difference is that one is at the tail-end (which is being generous) of his career and one is at the begining. So, if the offense is going to take a while to get into gear we should give JC (who's initials Gibbs has GOT to love) the controls and see what we've got with him.

Or, if we are still trying to win this year and comfortability with the offense is the only issue, let Saunders play Collins. It's HIS guy who knows HIS system, whom Saunders must have had a great deal of confidence in to bring him, essentially from the verge of retiring, to the Skins to run HIS offense. If Saunders is going to flop, he should at least be given the dignity of being able to flop with HIS guy running HIS offense the way it's supposed to be run, which BRunell is clearly incapable of doing.

Once Collins chance has come and gone, if that's the way it happens, then JC has no one looking over his shoulder and is free to experience the growing pains of being a young NFL QB.

I realize this has been kind of long winded, but the important thing is this:

GET BRUNELL THE HELL OFF THE FIELD!

Posted by: Josh F. | November 1, 2006 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Okay, I need to get something off my chest related to the blog. It irritates the what out of me that people make inuendo on the blog towards Megskin, Jason's editor, Lisa and like one other girl on the blog.

Here is my suggestion:

1) Go to bullz-eye.com
2) Megskin et al. Write one post for once and for all with your stats and leave it at that so the dudes that want to go out with you know what they're dealing with. Whenever I see one of those passive aggressive posts about "how cute Megskin" is or blog crush (blush)on Lisa whatever, it makes me vommitty.

My guesses are these women are middle-aged and were once attractive.

Drop knowledge for the single dudes or dudes that want to cheat on their wives, so we don't ever have to hear about it again.

Thank you.

Also, Buckhantz and Chenier are on in 5 hours. I am getting excited. Also, Jason or Jason's editor, what is the mood today at the park? Nanger? Fragile? Exhaustion? Vommitty?

Posted by: The Governor | November 1, 2006 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Drat, my thunder stolen by premature blog recounting of the "Hail to the Redskins" story. Extra tidbit: Murchison bought the rights for $2500. Extra knife twist: Marshall had made playing the song a big deal because his wife wrote the lyrics. Murchison told him that there wouldn't be any more fancy halftime shows to keep the wife happy unless he stopped being the only owner blocking the Cowboys franchise.

Then there's the chickens....

But it doesn't really matter, since all you Redskin fans are selling you tix on stubhub, right?

Posted by: Harvey Martin's Funeral Wreath | November 1, 2006 3:04 PM | Report abuse

I'm a Cowboys fan because when I was 10 I saw Roger Staubach play, and for some reason he became my hero. I grew up in Miami but could never be a fan of such a soft, lame team. I know the history of the rivalry, but on my most hated list, it's Steelers, 49ers, Eagles, and then maybe the Skins. I've seen the Boys in NY, Philly, here, Miami, Indy, and in Dallas. Point is, my chief rival is the team we're playing that week. People in Dallas do not walk around in T-shirts saying I like two teams, the Cowboys and whoever's playing Washington.

Posted by: SMACK | November 1, 2006 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Fuel for the Skins-Cowf*ckers showdown from a Yahoo Sports mailbag (note, dude is from Texas):

NO 'D' IN DALLAS?

Why are people referring to Dallas' defense as good? Did you not see the Giants' offense run and pass all over the Dallas defense Monday night? The Dallas defense is good against poor offenses. Safety Roy Williams is very overrated. He can't defend the pass. Most of the big passing plays made on Dallas this year were covered by Williams. In fact, the Giants scored their first touchdown with Williams stumbling over an official and falling to the ground. The Cowboys are overrated. They are mediocre. They will never go to the Super Bowl again as long as Jerry Jones is the owner.

Scot Walker
Plano, Texas

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | November 1, 2006 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Oh, for Pete's sake, just write another song. As far as songs go, it's not exactly American Pie. Call Barry Manilow, I hear he writes 'em.

Posted by: SMACK | November 1, 2006 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Can we please get an update? Dealer where you at Dawg?

Posted by: jm220 | November 1, 2006 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Smack-

The point is, if you don't live in Dallas then what would you know about the hometown fans' hatred of the Redskins? I'm not allowed in certain people's homes unless they inspect me for Redskins paraphernalia first.

Rivalries are one of many things that make football great and it's depressing to see a Cowgirls fan (who is in the minority among fans, I might add) demean it needlessly. The rivarly is not manufactured, it's tied in with the history of both franchises. Your unwillingness to recognize that reflects how little you've invested in learning about the Dallas Cowboys history.

Posted by: Skin Patrol | November 1, 2006 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Fatality: Skin Patrol wins...

Posted by: ArtMonkToTheSticks | November 1, 2006 3:15 PM | Report abuse

In ya face, Smack! Go tell Red Sox fans in Boston that they have no reason to hate the Yankees...you may have better luck.

Posted by: Josh F. | November 1, 2006 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Rookie Watkins was the safety responsible for the Giants 1st TD when, inexplicably, the scheme called for our high dollar veteran CB to release their #1 WR and cover the RB in the flat instead.

And just because the letter is from Plano doesn't mean much, as evidenced by the increasing infestation of Oklahoma Sooners fans around here in Dallas.

Posted by: Harvey Martin's Funeral Wreath | November 1, 2006 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Did you read that bit about the t-shirts, or did you quit reading because there weren't any pictures?

Posted by: SMACK | November 1, 2006 3:19 PM | Report abuse


Megskin, Lisa, Cindy: I'll leave the above sanctimonious post to you. I respect that had any "innuendo" offended you, that you are independent and capable enough to express this opinion yourself without the assistance of someone telling you that you should be offended.

But if I missed the humor of the post and it was just a supposedly witty way to ask you for your digits, than hey, maybe the Gov is cute....or once was if he is now middle aged, since apparently you can't be both.

out,
hm

Posted by: HaikuMan | November 1, 2006 3:21 PM | Report abuse

BUCKTOWN IF BOYS D IS AS BAD AS YOU SAY THEN YOU REALLY SUCK ONLY SCORING 3PTS.YOU JOKERS KEEP BUSTING ON YOUR SELFS,JERRY ALREADY HAS 3 SBS HOW MANY DOES DANNYBOY HAVE!!YOUR POINT IS TRUE BUT YOU SHOULD OF SAID YOU WONT SEE A SB WITH DANNYBOY!! YOU WOULD SELL YOUR SOUL IF YOU COULD TRADE ALL PLAYERS WITH BOYS!!DONT LIE hehehe

Posted by: BOOFER | November 1, 2006 3:24 PM | Report abuse

I don't want any x cowboys. Ever.

Posted by: ArtMonkToTheSticks | November 1, 2006 3:26 PM | Report abuse

I hate the Yankee's. Anyone growing up in the New England area, and having a soul does as well.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | November 1, 2006 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Spanks,

Actually, my t-shirt just says

F&*K DALLAS

As in you, your uncle, TO, Staubach, Troy, Michael (cause he just snorted up the goal line), Emmit, Glenn, Roy, Leon "pass the pipe" Lett, and the rest of "America's Team" fans who buy into Jerry Jones' man-zierre wearing squad. Jimmy Johnson and Barry Switzer have security because of people like me. And I assume your assanine comment about "chief rival that week" takes into account the fact that you've been on every other 'rivals' blog for the last 8 weeks? No? Thought so.

Do me a favor, go back to Miami, donate some money the "U" so they can get rid of the OB and get a respectable stadium, and buy yourself a TEAL R. Williams jersey, because that's who your infiltrating @ss should be rooting for. Attention craving ignorance...has to be the worst combination of personality traits in the history of humanity. Now I have to go listen to Wilson Phillips, Journey, and Seal until I don't want to stuff potatoes in the resident Cowgirl fans mufflers.

And Megskin is 008, I wouldn't eff with her. Unless you want to meet a middle aged sniper.

Peace,

PG

Posted by: Pub Golf | November 1, 2006 3:27 PM | Report abuse

No news yet....hang in there. Sorry I'm late in responding. Just got my teeth cleaned. It is, after all, Dallas week.

Posted by: Jason's editor | November 1, 2006 3:29 PM | Report abuse

The worst case scenario is that the redskins end up winning a few games and hanging around a game or two under .500. Just close enough that there is still a little bit of hope so Gibbs keeps Brunell in till the end or near end and Campbell only gets 1 or 2 games of experience this year.

Under that scenario we end up still having no idea whether Campbell can play.

Posted by: kovachs | November 1, 2006 3:30 PM | Report abuse

PG, that's what I'm talking about! Bring that NANGER in here son! Bring it right in here. It's Dallas week! I want to see that fire. Can we get Pub Golf out to Redskins Park today????

Posted by: ArtMonkToTheSticks | November 1, 2006 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Oh BOOF... the flaw in your trash talking is that none of us disagree with the fact that the Skins are playing awfully. We just don't share the delusions that you seem to have about the Cowf*ckers being good.

This is a rivalry game, and anything can happen. Anyone who denies the history of the rivalry is either a new found fan, or wrong.

Skin Patrol, I've never been to Dallas, but I've rocked the Maize and Blue in Columbus. It's scary when they aren't your friends... sometimes even when they are.

BOOF, we'll talk on Monday, as you have promised to show up if you lose. We all know you'll definitely be here if you win.

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | November 1, 2006 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Brunell returned to practice, but did Campbell share any time???

Posted by: Mimi Me | November 1, 2006 3:35 PM | Report abuse

I went to the Skins/Titans game (well played, by the way) and a guy in the parking lot was selling F#@K Dallas T-shirts. How stupid is that? As I explained before, I live here, I read the Post, that's how I ended up on this blog. Seriously, would you all rather just sit here crying about JC or have a good-natured debate with opposing fans? What, you can't hack it?

Posted by: SMACK | November 1, 2006 3:35 PM | Report abuse

SallieMae ,

I miss Irvine too!!!

Posted by: OC Paul | November 1, 2006 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Smack-

You're not getting anywhere.

Despite your best efforts and pretending that "this is just another game" you've openly admitted to visiting a Redskins fan blog just so you can "stifle" your Skins friends. If the rivalry is so meaningless, why bother?

You've admitted that you aren't a Dallas resident, so what authority do you have about how Dallas fans feel about the Redskins... in Dallas? Are you certain there are no anti-Redskins shirts in circulation in the greater Dallas metroplex?

The fact is, the second most talked about team in Dallas are the Washington Redskins as it is the heated rival due to 30 years of vicious history between the two franchises. You'd know something about that if you were a fan of the team for any reason besides being enamored of Roger Staubach. Ok?

You don't know anything about the history of your franchise despite the fact that much of the Redskins/Cowboys rivalry bloomed while your admitted idol was playing.

Here in Dallas, beating the Redskins means the world to a lot of people. You still might think it's "just another game" but you'll somehow have to account for why you've chosen a Washington Redskins blog to frequent and not a Cowgirls one.

Cheers.

Posted by: Skin Patrol | November 1, 2006 3:37 PM | Report abuse

I can't speak for Megskin or Lisa, but I can assure you that, if I were offended, I would have crushed you like a bug. :)
Oh, and I have blog delete powers, too.
So let's go back to rhyming and amusing ourselves occasionally and solving the problems that plague this team, eh?

Posted by: Jason's editor | November 1, 2006 3:38 PM | Report abuse

C'mon Patrol, the 2nd most talked about team around here is the mighty Texas Longhorns and the awe inspiring play of redshirt frosh Colt McCoy!

Posted by: Harvey Martin's Funeral Wreath | November 1, 2006 3:41 PM | Report abuse

PG, you get today's gold star.

Posted by: Skinz | November 1, 2006 3:41 PM | Report abuse

We're not playing the Dolphins. Shut it. The only thing good natured about a debate with dallas fans is the fact that you might get to leave them some fudge ems (#00, starting special teams) in their mailbox if you know where they live. Other than that, send me three cheerleaders and a kilo of Columbian White from Irvings dash when you lose.

Posted by: Pub Golf | November 1, 2006 3:41 PM | Report abuse

governor, my man haiku speaks the truth. no one here makes any endos or anything. we're all professionals, married (except for haiku) or have girlfriends. this is the second time someone's posted something like your comment. get over it!

we salivate over megskins writing. NOTHING MORE. JEEZIE PEEZIE that's all we get to see!!! HE COULD VERY WELL BE A MAN!!!

we're sorry if we make you puke. but lisa's and other's stats aren't needed. like i said there aren't that many singles on this blog. right?

and haiku couldn't be anymore cute with his 'endos. if that's what you call them.

NOW KELLY on the other hand. i apologize if that makes you puke. but i love kelly. or is it kelli (johnson). and maybe i'm saying it cuz she's a woman and she looks very pleasing to the eyes. but maybe i'm not. i don't know. all i know is she's damn good at what she does. and she's good looking. ;) and she's very nice and genuine (having met her 2 years ago). for the record i'm not a fan of any of the women that are employed by espn except for linda cohn. and i HATE gillian barberydoll.

Posted by: littery genious | November 1, 2006 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Harvey Martin's Funeral Wreath-

Pfft on that. Go Red Raiders.

Posted by: Skin Patrol | November 1, 2006 3:43 PM | Report abuse

If I lived in Philly, and all my friends were Eagles fans, I'd be on an Eagles blog right now. Surely that logic cannot be so difficult to follow. I'm not on a Cowboys blog because if you ask me it gets old when everyone on a blog shares the same opinion. WE should put in Jason Campbell. No, we SHOULD put in Jason Campbell. Somebody tell Gibbs to put in Jason Campbell. Kinda boring, no?

Posted by: SMACK | November 1, 2006 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Wow Gov...quite a dis on the ladies

Posted by: OC Paul | November 1, 2006 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Why is that stupid exactly? You are sitting there saying you, a Cowboys fan, went to a Redskins game in which they were not playing the Cowboys, probably all decked out in your crumbling Sanders 21 silver and blue replica jersey. If for nothing else, those F#@K Dallas shirts are for YOU! Your fairweather, unpassionate unless you're winning, unknowledgable fanbase is just disgusting.

I'm sure if you went to Texas stadium they'd love to have shirts that say F#@K Washington, but no one can figure out how to spell it...

Posted by: Josh F. | November 1, 2006 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Smack, trick question. If I did live in Philly, I have a verbal aggreement with my boys to take me out with a double tap to the back of the dome piece. No questions asked.

Posted by: ArtMonkToTheSticks | November 1, 2006 3:49 PM | Report abuse

let's see here...what does dallas have that we, as skins fans should be envious of

1. lame duck coach? umm no, thanks.
2. team with 2 backs(=no backs)? no, i'll take portis over bof 'em.
3. team with cancer like to? nah! you can keep that too.
4. team with a bad, aging o-line? no, we have had a pretty decent line for years with good bookend tackles.
5. team with an owner that has his own radio show? no, i think i'll take danny over him too.
6. team with a rookie qb? NOW! that i wish we had but we don't. so there we envy you for having a garbage picked dude (searching for the next kurt warner)...GOOD LUCK! i'm sure he won't throw 3 picks and get sacked like a potatoe on sunday. like i said SHOW UP HERE ON GAME DAY!

btw, why were you at the tenn game? are you a tenn fan?

Posted by: smack this | November 1, 2006 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Ha, the Texas surge to victory over TT was classic, similar to the last second soul-crushing TT delivered in College Station. If only Baylor had beaten A&M, my football weekend would have been perfect, with the addition of a meteor landing on Bob Stoops.

Posted by: Harvey Martin's Funeral Wreath | November 1, 2006 3:51 PM | Report abuse

CLARIFICATION! That post was aimed at the dudes that are always hitting on the ladies in the blog. I wanted them to simmer down now. I love you all.

4 hours to Chenier saying: "I think that is what Eddie was talking about with Brendan...he has got to keep that ball up after the rebound."

Posted by: The Governor | November 1, 2006 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Smack-

"If I lived in Philly, and all my friends were Eagles fans, I'd be on an Eagles blog right now."

Then you are exactly the kind of obnoxious anti-fan that you are trying to debase. At least Redskins fans have 30 years of history to hate. You've just admitted that the only reason you're antagonizing us is because you live in Washington D.C. Cool beans, dude.

"I'm not on a Cowboys blog because if you ask me it gets old when everyone on a blog shares the same opinion. WE should put in Jason Campbell. No, we SHOULD put in Jason Campbell. Somebody tell Gibbs to put in Jason Campbell. Kinda boring, no?"

If you think all Redskins agree on all things Redskins then you haven't spent a lot of time on Redskins blogs. But these things exist primarily for fans of the team to discuss that team.

And it's not like you're trying to encourage interesting Redskins banter, you're doing everything possible to stifle it. The Cowboys game, which many of us here take quite seriously, is nothing to you... AND you are a Cowboys fan (and a very bad one at that). Ok? What's the debate? We're dumb for rooting for our team? We shouldn't take football games seriously?

Why would you waste your time on a Redskins football fan blog to make that point?

Posted by: Skin Patrol | November 1, 2006 3:57 PM | Report abuse

No, we know how to spell Washington, as in James Washington, one of about a thousand players that we use up and trade to Washington when everyone but your staff knows they are useless has-beens. Speaking of Deion Sanders, aren't you still paying him!? Checkmate.

Posted by: SMACK | November 1, 2006 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Boofer if you're little girls lose to the skins, then they are indeed the worst team in the NFL and the Tuna is finished. Then I hope you have fun picking up the leftover pieces of your team. Dallas is totally overrated, and we are going to expose you cowgirls as the weak team you are!! Make sure you are here on Monday. We aren't just going to beat you're girls, we are going smack them around and make them cry. Particularly TO - that little cry baby!! Only dallas would overpay for a player who totally disrespected the fans, the stadium, the owner, and the team when he did his thing on the star. The dallas organization, and especially you boofer should be ashamed.

Posted by: Max | November 1, 2006 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Smack - if we're all so friggin' boring what the hell are you still doing here?

If you're trying to get a rise then obviously it worked but still you're smack talk sucks especially for Dallas Week.

At least Boofer is creatively stupid or stupidly creative in his trash talk.

C'mon Cowpaddy pull the blue and silver star outta your a** and get it on!

F**K Dallas!

Posted by: sfskin | November 1, 2006 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Other teams with 2-5 records:
Buffalo
Houston
Cleveland
Oakland
Tennesee
Tampa

Nice company!

Posted by: Harvey Martin's Funeral Wreath | November 1, 2006 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Okay I admit it, I'm not very creative. That's why I have to be on a Skins blog. The Skins suffer so badly from cranial-rectal insertion that even a dimwit like me can make fun of them.

Posted by: SMACK | November 1, 2006 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Amen, Brother ArtMonkToTheSticks, amen!

Posted by: Bucktown Skins Fan | November 1, 2006 4:09 PM | Report abuse


Cindy had me at
"Would have crushed you like a bug."
It must be true love.

Posted by: HaikuMan | November 1, 2006 4:17 PM | Report abuse


Cindy had me at
"Would have crushed you like a bug."
It must be true love.

Posted by: HaikuMan | November 1, 2006 4:17 PM | Report abuse


Cindy had me at
"Would have crushed you like a bug."
It must be true love.

Posted by: HaikuMan | November 1, 2006 4:19 PM | Report abuse


Blushes at repeats
Computer gremlins play tricks
With my fragile heart.

LOL

Posted by: HaikuMan | November 1, 2006 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone heard that new John Jansen commercial on the radio? I think its a Frito Lay Commercial about going to the Super Bowl (how ironic).

He kind of takes a shot at the Die-Hard Redskins fans (I.E. The guys who dress up as Hogettes and Overweight cheerleaders).

I don't know what to take of that one, but its funny how I just started hearing.

Just wanted someone elses opinion.

Posted by: bringbacktheposse89854726 | November 1, 2006 4:24 PM | Report abuse

MAX & SMACK THIS, READING YOUR BLOGS IS A WASTE OF TIME!YOUR INFORMATION IS FALSE AND YOUR HUMOR IS NONEXISTENT,THIS WILL NOT BE TOLERATED ON MY BLOG(BOYS OWN SKINYS)GET WITH THE PROGRAM(ACCURATE INFO,LOTS OF HUMOR)1ST WARNING!hehehe

Posted by: BOOFER | November 1, 2006 4:24 PM | Report abuse

BOOFER, you're right, James Washington was a great pick up by the Skins. Sorry, my fault. By the way, I think your Caps Lock key is stuck. Must be all the vaseline.

Posted by: SMACK | November 1, 2006 4:34 PM | Report abuse

checkmate? really? I can't be held responsible for Ol' Norv bringing in his washed-up cowboy buddies...in fact, his whole tenure here was less than pleasant, but that doesn't change the fact that you were at a game that really was none of your concern, have come to a blog for a team that is apparently none of your concern and have the nerve to tell us that our hatred of you and your team makes no sense. Are you high or just from Texas? Oh, wait, you're NOT from Texas, are you? Which means that your roots of being a cowboys fan are...non-existant. Well done champ. You truely are a sack-o-crap...

Posted by: Josh F. | November 1, 2006 4:35 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure it's been told before, but I like this one:

Albert Einstein arrives at a party and introduces himself to the first person he sees and asks, "What is your IQ?"
the man answers "241."
"That is wonderful!," says Albert. "We will talk about the Grand Unification Theory and the mysteries of the Universe. We will have much to discuss!"

Next Albert introduces himself to a woman and asks, "What is your IQ?" the lady answers, "144."
"That is great!," responds Albert. "We can discuss politics and current affairs. We will have much to discuss!"

Albert goes to another person and asks, "What is your IQ?" the man answers, "51."
Albert responds, "How 'bout them Cowboys?"

Posted by: Ali Haji Shank | November 1, 2006 4:38 PM | Report abuse

I'm a huge Arsenal fan too, but I'm not from London. Believe it or not fandom exists in the heart, not in the zip code. I go to Skins games because I occasionally get free club level tickets. Sure can't imagine paying for that product.

Posted by: SMACK | November 1, 2006 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Roger Staubach played for Arsenal?

Posted by: Ali Haji Shank | November 1, 2006 4:50 PM | Report abuse

That's funny! You should write a sit-com. But no actually, Dennis Bergkamp played for Arsenal. And what a magician he was with a football. (A round one).

Posted by: SMACK | November 1, 2006 4:59 PM | Report abuse

If you'd just admitted that you were a soccer fan earlier in the day we wouldn't have had to waste all this time discussing why you're the kind of football fan the rest of us love to hate.

Posted by: Skin Patrol | November 1, 2006 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Boofer, I guess you must not have been a cowboys fan, and perhaps you don't remember when TO played for the San Francisco 49ers and took a dump on that midfield dallas star. Then you go and sign the same guy and pay him more than anybody else on the team. You and the cowgirls lack the kind of pride that make this Redskins organization great. We will never sacrafice our pride. Nobody who disrespects this Redskins team, field, coaches, and fans will ever put on a Redskins jersey. Too bad you can't say that about the cowgirls, who go out there on their hands and knees and beg the guy who once disrespected their entire organization to be there franchise player. That's sad, and you should be ASHAMED BOOFER.

Posted by: Max | November 1, 2006 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Let's not open the soccer can of worms. Isn't JLC a soccer fan? And I kinda thought Ali Haji was a fan too.

Posted by: SMACK | November 1, 2006 5:09 PM | Report abuse

"You should write a sit-com."

To quote the great P Diddy, it's not in my idiom.

Besides, it would be a pay cut and I wouldn't have the joy of interacting with lucid Renaissance types like yourself.

Posted by: Ali Haji Shank | November 1, 2006 5:13 PM | Report abuse

I don't take any offense at any knock on soccer, cause it really doesn't matter. We are all entitled to our opinions and although I played soccer overseas and to the semi-pro level in California, there's a reason I'm here on this blog and a reason I hate Dallas fans: we all love football and this team and Dallas sucks.

That's what brings us together here, especially this week.

Well that, and waiting patiently to watch the next train wreck of a cyber pass at the ladies that frequent this blog.

Oh, and a Redskin update or two.

Posted by: Ali Haji Shank | November 1, 2006 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Well this has been fun, but the butler is here with high tea and slippers. I believe I'll take it in the conservatory, in the chaise-lounge beneath my Botticelli. Oh, and you should put in Jason Campbell.

Posted by: SMACK | November 1, 2006 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Make sure you don't spill your iced tea on your flip flops as you go to the back of the trailer past the reprint poster of Staubach tacked to the wall to get to the $3 plastic lawn furniture from the garden area at K Mart.

Oh, and Romo Cop's going down.

Posted by: Ali Haji Shank | November 1, 2006 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Give it your best shot. But believe me, we'll be VERY careful not to hurt Brunell. We need him in there lofting those fairy passes to our secondary.

Posted by: SMACK | November 1, 2006 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Maybe they will catch some when they are done doing tackling drills on referees.

Posted by: Ali Haji Shank | November 1, 2006 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Well, with Skidmark Brunell just throwing the ball out of bounds, I guess we'll be eager to tackle anybody.

Posted by: SMACK | November 1, 2006 6:03 PM | Report abuse

MB doesn't throw the ball out of bounds, he throws screens. Get with the program.

Besides you have no chance. We are guaranteed to play our guts out.

Posted by: Ali Haji Shank | November 1, 2006 6:16 PM | Report abuse

SallieMae
Is that Irvine as in DALLAS? if so, explains alot about your mind wanderings ... I think I've got a blog crush.

Can you cook too?

Posted by: X.Hog | November 1, 2006 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Megskin said, ... "start him off with 22 screens?"

LMAO - great GREAT stuff.

Posted by: X.Hog | November 1, 2006 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Bergcamp wit back to goal, screening off a defender at the top of the 18 - how could you not be on the edge of your seat?
And I hate the Gooners. But that dude was a magician.
Anyone ever watch the MISL back in the day?
Stan Stamankovich was the fatter Bergkamp of the indoor game.

Posted by: Jason La Canfora | November 1, 2006 9:10 PM | Report abuse

No way this was the real JLC was it?

Posted by: SMACK | November 1, 2006 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Smack, that was definitely me. Just got finished watching Sky Sports News on the satellite to get my daily fix of soccer news.
I'm a junkie, bro. Soccer was my first love.

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