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Jasno will join you shortly...he's working the locker room until 3. Nate requested a new post and I'm here to do whatever is needed to accomplish the Boren Penultimatum.

By Cindy Boren  |  September 6, 2007; 2:20 PM ET
 
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Thanks, Cindy!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Panties!

Posted by: P Diddy | September 6, 2007 2:25 PM | Report abuse

... just b/c its a new thread does NOT mean we can let up from the calesthenic blogwindsprint ... most irritating player and why! Give me 20!

Posted by: dcsween | September 6, 2007 2:28 PM | Report abuse

From the last thread, you guys nailed the gist of the #3 on the, um, head. I don't think there's a #4...it would simply be called "The Larry Craig"

Posted by: 4-12 | September 6, 2007 2:29 PM | Report abuse

i seek geek #1, #2, and #3 are here.

Posted by: joe b | September 6, 2007 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Who: Stephen Jackson
Why: He halfway abused Sean Taylor last year and I hate his freakin' hair. I wish somebody would tackle him by that sh*t to teach him a lesson.

Posted by: CC | September 6, 2007 02:28 PM

Posted by: CC (from last thread) | September 6, 2007 2:30 PM | Report abuse

WHO: Adam Archuletta
WHY: He's in Chicago with $10 million that could have been used to sign a real player.

Posted by: etrod | September 6, 2007 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Who: T.O.
Why: 25 million reasons.

Posted by: 4-12 | September 6, 2007 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Mark;

There is a non compete between Bmore and Wash.

So you wont see wash games in bmore because ad revenue for CBS would go to Fox due to the proximity.

But since the skins are on CBS, they pick the next closest AFC team (Pitt), which Miami is not.

F'ed up, but that is the way it is.

I live just outside of that area where Ravens are first and the non compete is with philly.

So except for this week and the other game we play on CBS when an AFC team comes to DC, I will get all skins games.

This is the reason why I got rid of sunday ticket.

Posted by: Zebra | September 6, 2007 02:30 PM

Posted by: Zebra | September 6, 2007 2:32 PM | Report abuse

SMACK;

SHHhhhhhhhh!

Posted by: Zebra | September 6, 2007 02:24 PM

Maybe one of his players is serving a red-card suspension from last year.

C'mon Zeb, you gonna brag about beating a one-legged man in an a$$-kicking contest?

Dik, I agree Fantasy has changed the sport. But what was the evidence you were citing in the last thread?

Posted by: SMACK | September 6, 2007 2:32 PM | Report abuse

No, SMACK, I didnt even realize it.

I was up 90 to 85 too, oh well, 0-12 games right?

Posted by: Zebra | September 6, 2007 2:34 PM | Report abuse

WHO: Kevin Jones
WHY: Always ends up as my 3rd running back on my fantasy team. Blows up when I sit him, blows goats when I play him.

Posted by: etrod | September 6, 2007 2:34 PM | Report abuse

So is Jasno going to post comments or do a chat?

Posted by: Stumped | September 6, 2007 2:37 PM | Report abuse

WHO: LBM
WHY: The way he sulks like a little girl. I wanna jack that dude up!

Posted by: Zebra | September 6, 2007 2:37 PM | Report abuse

WHO: Priest Holmes
WHY: periculum

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Eleventyteenth!

That's my fav. number.

Although it used to be Wiederzehn. What's Wiedertsehn?

Einz, Zwei, Drei, Fier.... Neun, Zehn...
....Achtzehn, Neunzehn......WIEDERZEHN!

I know... it's horrible - but kids are so cute.

Posted by: Dik | September 6, 2007 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Who: Travis Henry
Why: 9 by 9 in 4

Posted by: 4-12 | September 6, 2007 2:40 PM | Report abuse

WHO: Priest Holmes
WHY: periculum

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 02:38 PM

LMGO!

Posted by: etrod | September 6, 2007 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Smak - this last weekends college affairs are ridiculous blowouts because that's the only way to get good rankings now.

This is, I believe, directly attributable to fantasy sports rise, the development of which certainly follows that curve.

When my 'Canes we're winning championships in the 80's & 90's, it was frowned upon to run the score up. Now it's required.

Posted by: Dik | September 6, 2007 2:42 PM | Report abuse

WHO: Michael Strahan
WHY: Had the opportunity to knockout that guy on the Subway commercials and failed.

[Mitigating cumuppance: ex-Mrs. Michael Strahan]

Posted by: dcsween | September 6, 2007 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Zebra, thanks. Is there a way to look at the scedule to know if I will see the game or not. I got a great deal on Sunday ticket for this season, but it would be nice to save the money for next season. There are other reasons for directv - local cable company is less than desireable.

Posted by: Mark (in 21132) | September 6, 2007 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Checking in and adding to the ruckus, Butkis.

Getting close to the day. Lucky you who can watch the game.

Posted by: charlie | September 6, 2007 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Working the locker room? Is he handing out towels or collecting jock straps?

Posted by: texaspete8 | September 6, 2007 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Who: Brett Favre
Why: Gave sack record to Michael Strahan

Posted by: SMACK | September 6, 2007 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Didn't Baldy get canned by FOX for a DUI or something?

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 2:49 PM | Report abuse

I counted 55 posts on two threads during the 30 minute sprint commissioned by dcsween.

As Arlo Guthrie said, I'm not proud... or tired.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 2:50 PM | Report abuse

WHO: Randy Moss
WHY: Walked off the field at FedEx before game was over. BAMF!

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 2:51 PM | Report abuse

That website linked to earlier would work, but it is only showing this weeks lineup.

Do you have HD NFL Sunday ticket

Do you get local channels in HD?

If that is Yes and then No, the blackout of the SDTV local football channel will still apply to Sunday Ticket. But you will see the HD local games on Sunday Ticket since the HD broadcast is not available in your area.

But if you get the locals in HD it wont matter.

Posted by: Zebra | September 6, 2007 2:51 PM | Report abuse

I think Jasno is doing a chat tomorrow. He'll post a new entry later.

Posted by: Cindy | September 6, 2007 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Who: John Runyan
Why: Dirty player with more hair on his arms than on his head.

Posted by: Skinz | September 6, 2007 2:51 PM | Report abuse

whats with the who & why? i need to catch up.

Posted by: nex2no1 | September 6, 2007 2:52 PM | Report abuse

I realize this is entirely off topic (ehehehe)

But Strayhan Ex comment made me remember SHAQ~! Who just released his intentions to divorce. Man - whut kinda crazy nut case woman would want to do SHAQ wrong?! crrrrazy.

Posted by: Dik | September 6, 2007 2:52 PM | Report abuse

WHO: chris Larry
WHY: F chris larry!

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 2:52 PM | Report abuse

charlie, you can't find a friendly Euro bar with satellite on Sunday evening?

Since you're outside the US, can't you watch games "live" on NFL.com?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 2:53 PM | Report abuse

SF,

He got canned for being pulled over and having a bunch of weapons in his car with his like 18 year old girlfriend.

Or something like that....

Posted by: Skinz | September 6, 2007 2:53 PM | Report abuse

WHO: Roy Williams
WHY: overrated

Posted by: MV Dame | September 6, 2007 2:53 PM | Report abuse

ITA

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2007 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Who: Receiver, The
Why: Catch the damn ball.

Posted by: 4-12 | September 6, 2007 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Ooops SF,

That was Bill "No" Maas. Guns and Drugs and his barely legal GF

Posted by: Skinz | September 6, 2007 2:54 PM | Report abuse

>>> "whut kinda crazy nut case woman"

Dik, I'm really surprised and dismayed by that statement.

Is there another kind of woman I don't know about?

Posted by: P Diddy | September 6, 2007 2:54 PM | Report abuse

really ITA

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2007 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Jason must be somewhere between the dirty clothes hamper and the bathroom thinking "idiot bloggers. thats why they don't get paid for opinions, and I do.

Posted by: nex2no1 | September 6, 2007 2:55 PM | Report abuse

From ESPN 100 Things You'll See In The NFL This Year - Gene Wojciechowski

57:
You will do very well in your fantasy league if you stole one of these three players in the later rounds: Chargers WR Vincent Jackson, Patriots WR Wes Welker, or Redskins QB Jason Campbell.

Posted by: JonTPK126 | September 6, 2007 2:55 PM | Report abuse

T.O. is by far and away the most irritating active player, bar none.

Oh, and if CP played anywhere else...

Posted by: Larry Bud | September 6, 2007 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Bill Maas, Brian Baldinger, same difference...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Being a Skins fan in Baltimore without DirecTV (I'm Snydered with an obstructed view house) is on the verge of destroying my marriage. Most Skins games are not televised up here, so I have to spend the day at the local sports bar, get drunk and fight some deranged idiot who thinks Ray Lewis was not an accomplice to murder.

I really, really wish Snyder would realize the benefits of joining the Ravens in the fight to make Balto-Wash a single primary market for both teams.

Please, Danny, save my marriage.

Posted by: Depressed in Baltimore | September 6, 2007 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Who: Eli Manning
Why: He's its Whinies with 2 scoops of slumped shoulders every Sundays.

Posted by: WaPoLiveFan16 | September 6, 2007 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Bill Maas! yeah like Nate said both horrible horrible horrible.

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 2:58 PM | Report abuse

forgot the why part. T.O.- Cowgirl, head case, vitamin and valium mixer, started the modern "hurt during camp trend", agent Next Question, sit-up laden press conferences, shameless posing...

CP- for making pro-dog fighting comments

Posted by: Larry Bud | September 6, 2007 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Nate- pullin' out the Arlo- nice. Think I'll just pull up a seat here on the old Group 'W' Bench.

Posted by: D7 | September 6, 2007 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Who: Shawne Merriman
Why: That silly spastic celebration dance

Posted by: JonTPK126 | September 6, 2007 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Yeah I have to agree with the Receiver as the worst. My biggest fear was the Danny would pursue him.

I really really really want L2 and the Reaper to lay him out.

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 3:00 PM | Report abuse

WaPo;

My pick exactly

Posted by: Zebra | September 6, 2007 3:00 PM | Report abuse

By the way, Cindy, what a rare honour to be name-checked in the post up there. Thanks ever so. Printing out this thread for the glory wall!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 3:00 PM | Report abuse

I dunno but I like all the bad boyz of the NFL, why because they act themselves and don't give a damn. TO, Vick, CP, Ocho Cinco, just to name a few. I mean telling the world about Donovan McNabb about him fatigued in the super bowl priceless, vick giving the dub bird to stupid fans, priceless, CP admitting what some people already know and think about dogfighting priceless, ocho cinco, need i say more?

Posted by: nex2no1 | September 6, 2007 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Wait I just had a huge blogbrainfart.

Not "the Receiver" - T.O! T.O! PPHHPPTTTT

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4-12 | September 6, 2007 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Zebra, thanks. I think I understand. If the skins play an AFC team at home, then I cannot see the game unless I have directv HD. I will miss two games this year without HD, which I do not have yet. The local bmore cbs station does broadcast in HD. So, I guess, HD or not, I am out of luck.

Posted by: Mark (in 21132) | September 6, 2007 3:02 PM | Report abuse

POSTED 2:34 p.m. EDT, September 6, 2007

JETS HAVE GLARING HOLE ON LEFT SIDE OF THE LINE

On Sunday, Jets G.M. Mike Tannenbaum will likely be cringing with every snap that the offense takes, hoping that former I-AA lineman Jacob Bender or previously unwanted Ohio State product Adrien Clarke don't get thrown into the backfield from the position previously occupied by Pete Kendall.

Tannenbaum and company opted to play the tough guy with Kendall, refusing to give him a $1 million raise in 2007 despite an alleged promise to re-adjust a deal that Kendall revised last year at the team's behest. The veteran was a disruption during training camp and the preseason, eventually prompting the team to trade him.

And while the move solved the problem of having a pissed-off Pete Kendall in the building, there's now a glaring hole on the left side of the line, between 2006 first-round center Nick Mangold and 2006 first-round tackle D'Brickashaw Ferguson.

Posted by: Stupid Jets! | September 6, 2007 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Phil Simms' may be a freakin' great analyst, but he's a horrible at commentary. I'd much prefer a Nantz/Dierdorf combo; at least Dan can string a few sentences together and not sound like a complete idiot.

Posted by: D7 | September 6, 2007 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Got to love screen names that look like vanity plates

Posted by: Larry Bud | September 6, 2007 3:03 PM | Report abuse

WHO: Jerramy Stevens
WHY: cocky, arrogant, no-talent, ball-buster

Posted by: MV Dame | September 6, 2007 3:03 PM | Report abuse

I hope your glory wall doesn't have a glory hole anywhere in it Nate....

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Zebra, thanks. I think I understand. If the skins play an AFC team at home, then I cannot see the game unless I have directv HD. I will miss two games this year without HD, which I do not have yet. The local bmore cbs station does broadcast in HD. So, I guess, HD or not, I am out of luck.

Posted by: Mark (in 21132) | September 6, 2007 03:02 PM

You know, if you move to Western Maryland, you won't have that problem. We get TV from 4 local markets here: Pittsburgh, DC, BMore and (drum roll please) Hagerstown.

Posted by: Larry Bud | September 6, 2007 3:05 PM | Report abuse

L2- LaRon Landry?
Reaper- Sean Taylor?

You guys are awesome!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2007 3:05 PM | Report abuse

How many times does it need to be said. THERE ARE NO BLACKOUTS WITH NFL SUNDAY TICKET. I'm going on my 3rd year with it and have never missed a game.

Posted by: DTV | September 6, 2007 3:05 PM | Report abuse

So, P-Did - did you give your housescrambler a Lap Fin sighting, yet?

As to most annoying player in the NFL ( besides my generic hatred for anyone in the Stars 'n YeeHars) it's varied over the last few years. Currently at the top of the list: JaMarcus "JaMocha Shake" Russell, for trying to pull an LBM shabingusing on the Raiders, but doing it with a tenth of the competence of Archie Manning's crew.

(re-posted from the last thread to maintain relevancy)*

*OK, OK, I lie. I'm doing my bit to take 'um to the Penultimatum!

Posted by: FlimFlam | September 6, 2007 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Jeramey Stevens is the worst. He just had the privilage to be on a legit squad

Posted by: nex2no1 | September 6, 2007 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Hold on, Nate, and I'll give you a link, too!

Posted by: Cindy | September 6, 2007 3:08 PM | Report abuse

WHO: Matt Leinert
WHY: Hollywood

Posted by: MV Dame | September 6, 2007 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Repeats question:

Is anyone else here going to the game this Sunday?

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Okay which article sounds more enticing?

"Warren Buffett's wife thwarts robbery"

or

"Couple's video welcomes teen sex slave"

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 3:09 PM | Report abuse

I wish there was no delay between the TV and the radio. I'd listen to the 2 coots and the jerk as opposed to any combo CBS has in store.

Jim Nantz worst ever!

Posted by: WaPoLiveFan16 | September 6, 2007 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Nice link for Nate Cyn!

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, Redcoat, I regretted that choice of words as soon as I posted it...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Whatever happened to that nice boy who was stuck in the PBX?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2007 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Wow, thanks again, Cindy! The PDX Chamber of Commerce salutes you!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Cyn City- Can we get the powers that be at the Post to start printing his official title as "Larry Craig (R-NotGay)"?

Posted by: 4-12 | September 6, 2007 3:12 PM | Report abuse

RC- I'll be packin' up the old 02 tank (aka beer interrupter) and makin' my way to my perch atop FedEx for the chumming Sunday.

Posted by: D7 | September 6, 2007 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Mmm, jamocha shake... it's lunchtime!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 3:13 PM | Report abuse

The Raiders, once again proved why they are the Raiders. If you have the #1 pick in the draft, why didn't they sign him before the draft like Houston did last year? The Raiders are in danger of becoming the doormat of all franchises if Al Davis continues running the ship. I know he is declining health and may feel its all he has left but people are making a mockery of his organization and most of all him. Time to ride off into the sunset Al.

Posted by: nex2no1 | September 6, 2007 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of Portland...

I had a PBR last night, Nate Dogg. One of the bars here on the island has it on tap...

Posted by: MV Dame | September 6, 2007 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Who: Mike Vanderjerk
Why: For shanking his way right out of the league

Posted by: Icarus | September 6, 2007 3:15 PM | Report abuse

WHO: David Boston
WHY: 'roids, arrogance

Posted by: MV Dame | September 6, 2007 3:15 PM | Report abuse

69 hours and 44 minutes.

But, who's countin', right?

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Okay so dude walks up to Buffetts house and rings the doorbell and brandishes a gun apparently Astrid Buffet then calls security who comes and "tussles" with dude on the porch.

Key element of the story: Warren Buffett lives in a place where you can walk up and ring the doorbell.

Couple in Nevada are in jail for 10-15 years (yay!) for flying a "15 year old girl" from Florida to Las Vegas. She turned out to be an undercover cop and they met online. They did make a video for the girl touring the 4 bedroom trailer home and the girl was supposed to run away and come live with them and their 14 year old son.

Key element to the story: 1. they are in jail 2. Dude didn't want to go to Florida cause "they nab dudes like me in FLA I've seen Dateline"

Okay gotta go teach again. Lunch is over.

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 3:17 PM | Report abuse

I will never understand this city for being on the one hand huge consumers of PBR and on the other hand huge microbrewing zealots. Makes such little sense. It's wonderful and weird... that's Portland, I guess!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 3:17 PM | Report abuse

RC,
I'll be there also.

Posted by: charlieo | September 6, 2007 3:17 PM | Report abuse

I'll start working on that, 4-12. Great Dana Milbank column on that today...I love the Mitch McConnell pressers. Talk about too much Botox or plastic surgery or something!

Posted by: Cindy | September 6, 2007 3:18 PM | Report abuse

WHO: Lance Briggs
WHY: holds out, can't drive

Posted by: MV Dame | September 6, 2007 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Hey Jasno- any word on how Rappy McShinsplints is doing? He poised to break out, or will he be lucky to even start Sunday?

Posted by: D7 | September 6, 2007 3:18 PM | Report abuse

For those who responded, I'll be in section 415 in a 1984 era #13 (who else?) shirt with a huge Scotsman in a LaVar shirt.

Throw soft - preferably edible - things please, and don't get too near the Scots guy, he bites!

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Ohh, ohh. Let me try one.

Who: The Redskin Front Office
Why: Brandon Lloyd, Antwaan Randel-El, Adam Archuletta, Deion Sanders, Mark Carrier...

Posted by: nex2no1 | September 6, 2007 3:21 PM | Report abuse

"It's the real show now, but I'm going into it like I've gone into every game so far," Landry said. "I didn't look at the preseason as something I didn't have to work hard in because it wasn't the real thing. ... My intensity and attitude won't change."

That's bad news for Trent Green and Ronnie Brown, the Dolphins' starting quarterback and running back.

Just ask Collins, who was slow to get up after Landry blitzed from the left side on a third-and-5 play on Aug. 11. Or Pittsburgh Steelers fullback Dan Kreider, who took on Landry ... and lost. Or Baltimore's Steve McNair, who got leveled on another of Landry's blitzes. And his teammates have noticed.


http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070906/SPORTS01/109060100/1005/SPORTS

Posted by: L2 is Da Man! | September 6, 2007 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Cindy | September 6, 2007 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Who: Ray Lewis
Why: Murderer!

Posted by: WaPoLiveFan16 | September 6, 2007 3:23 PM | Report abuse

CynCyty, you rule the hyperlinks (but Matt Damon looks like Max Headroom).

Nate, not sure what I've done, but there is a TEAM here that is turning the blogwindsprints into the bloghalfmilers! Go Team Boren ... er ... um ... Go Team RI!

WHO: Brad Johnson
WHY: Not letting go of a grudge. First, its the MNF defeat at home in 2006. THEN the Devil goes down to Dallas to help out Tony Romo with his "wide stance"

Posted by: dcsween | September 6, 2007 3:23 PM | Report abuse

LMBAO

Posted by: nex2no1 | September 6, 2007 3:24 PM | Report abuse

http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/56534

We get no respect, no respect.

Take my wife for instance...no really take her.

Posted by: rodney dangerfield | September 6, 2007 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Mark;

Let me retrace my steps because I was saying two separate things.

Non-compete is different than Black-out of the Local Channel kind.

NFL teams near each other have non-compete contracts with their local carriers. Baltimore has one with Washington in and around the Baltimore Region. They will not show Skins games because it is on Fox and Baltimore is an AFC area where CBS wants the Ad revenue. If they show the skins on FOX, they know that since it is close to DC, that CBS would lose viewership to FOX for the skins fans. - Almost forcing what you watch.

Your last description of the situation is my set-up because I am in Baltimore-Philly Region. Baltimore First, Philly is the non-compete out here. So they will show other games on FOX, usually the next closest NFC team for Fox which is DC.

21132 seems like it would be in Baltimore-Washington Region. You get the Steelers Game and the Philly game @ 1pm this week b/c they are not worried about Philly fans in your area. CBS does not think that they will lose the Ad revenue to the Philly fans in Bmore they normally would to DC.

Near me in Harrisburg, they do worry about siad pHilly fans and not the skins fans, so that is why I will see skins games.

It also has to do with which channel has two versus one game. See the weekly breakdown listed here, it switches between the two week to week - http://www.the506.com/nflmaps/index.html

*****************************************

Now, for NFL sunday ticket, local games (i.e. for you Philly and Pitt) are blacked out on Sunday ticket since you can see them on your local carrier. This also has to do with Ad revenue, but more so for local ads.

Now, if you have an HDTV, and you have HD sunday ticket the same rules apply - unless your local carriers are not broadcasting in HD. If they are not, then you can see the HD version on of that local game on sunday ticket, but the SDTV broadcast will still be blacked out since your local channels are obviously broadcasting in SDTV.

After 2009 it wont matter cause all broadcasts for all TV and cable will have to switch from Standard Definition to High Def.

More or less sense does this make?

Posted by: Zebra | September 6, 2007 3:24 PM | Report abuse

okay which article sounds more enticing?
"Warren Buffett's wife thwarts robbery"
or
"Couple's video welcomes teen sex slave"
Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 03:09 PM

sfskin, you forgot to post links to these videos. how else can we judge 'em if we can't see 'em?

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Who: Joe Gibbs
Why: He's super smart

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2007 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Who: Kerry Collins/Mark Brunell
Why: They still have jobs in the Not For Long league.

Posted by: WaPoLiveFan16 | September 6, 2007 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Im calling BS

"How many times does it need to be said. THERE ARE NO BLACKOUTS WITH NFL SUNDAY TICKET. I'm going on my 3rd year with it and have never missed a game.

Posted by: DTV | September 6, 2007 03:05 PM"

"Games Available on NFL SUNDAY TICKET
Because of NFL and broadcast network requirements outside of DIRECTV's control, games broadcast by your local FOX or CBS station will not be available on channels in the 700s. You must tune to your local FOX or CBS station to watch those games. DIRECTV is required to enforce this rule to ALL of its customers, including customers in areas where DIRECTV does not offer local channels "

Posted by: Zebra | September 6, 2007 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat,

I'll be at the game on sunday.

Section 102 Row 2 Seat 3,4,5 or 6.

Or at the end zone bar yelling at idiots who think Jaegar Bombs should be drank 4 at a time.

Posted by: Skinz | September 6, 2007 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Skins stuff from an ESPN chat:

Jarrod, Baltimore: Does Joe Gibbs take the Skins to the playoffs this year? I really think Joe is rallying the troups together to make the playoffs this year and push even further next year in the last year of his deal. What are your thoughts Matt?

Matt Mosley: (3:20 PM ET ) I'm a lot more optimistic about the Redskins than I was a month ago. Part of that is based on thinking their defense has too much talent to have another miserable year. Teams already feared Sean Taylor. With LaRon Landry forming Area 51, receivers are going to be think twice about going over the middle. A lot of this hinges on how Campbell does at quarterback. I like him more and more, but I haven't seen enough to convince me he'll get it done. I did hear that Al has trimmed 200 pages off that playbook

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 6, 2007 3:30 PM | Report abuse

WHO: Ricky Williams
WHY: For sending all that talent up in smoke....

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 3:31 PM | Report abuse

I'm havin' so much trouble imagining this town drinkin' PBR.
Coors? Unfortunately yes, due to their endless blitz media campaign.
Bud? Yes, for same reason.
But PBR?
I guess it's true, no one ever lost money underestimating the American public.

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Area 51...Brilliant.

Posted by: D7 | September 6, 2007 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Who: NFL Licensing
Why: Making me buy Madden instead of 2K Franchise. Making me pay $100+ to listen to my skins on the RealPlayer 'cause the radio feed is blacked out.

Posted by: Dik | September 6, 2007 3:32 PM | Report abuse

F fan nation, what losers

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 6, 2007 3:32 PM | Report abuse

DMZ may be better.

Posted by: D7 | September 6, 2007 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Nate, Cyn, and others,

I apologize for not bein' available to BMGO today, but if I don't make it to the golf course, i'm going to have a pyschic breakdown.

I will do my best to make up for it later tonite, after a few glasses of Shiraz, with nonsensical, but correctly spelled, nonsense.

I promise at least 10-12 posts before midnite and you can hold me to that.

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 3:34 PM | Report abuse

"games broadcast by your local FOX or CBS station will not be available on channels in the 700s."

This is true but you still see the local games on the local channels. If a Redskins game is not being shown on the local channel then you will see it on Sunday Ticket. Like I said. I have had it for 3 years now and have never missed one single NFL game whether it be on the local channel or Sunday Ticket.

Posted by: DTV | September 6, 2007 3:35 PM | Report abuse

WHO: THE Receiver
WHY: For trying to be the next Freddie Mitchell

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Oh, we'll hold you to that, Willie.

Posted by: Cindy | September 6, 2007 3:38 PM | Report abuse

WHO: Michael Vick
WHY: Making dog fighting look worse than herpes.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2007 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Still trying to think of catchy phrases describing the secondary covered by Sean and LaRon......The Darkness...

Posted by: D7 | September 6, 2007 3:39 PM | Report abuse

I'll be in section 424...probably nursing my bloody nose.
I hope the storm stays away.

Posted by: charlieo | September 6, 2007 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Add golfing to the No's list...

Posted by: MV Dame | September 6, 2007 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Ok DTV, I see what you are saying... semantics.

Mark asked four blogs back about Sunday Ticket and how some games were not being shown, so that is what I am referring to.

With Sunday ticket you can see every game, whether on Local or Sunday Ticket

Posted by: Zebra | September 6, 2007 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Wow, 4 out 5 Foxsports "experts" are picking us over the fins:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7187998?MSNHPHCP>1=10437

Posted by: D7 | September 6, 2007 3:43 PM | Report abuse

SeanTay and LaRon
Darkness falls faster than rain
Safety? Whatever.

Posted by: dcsween | September 6, 2007 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Sween: Beautiful.

Guess there won't be anything "catchy" about it........I kill me.

Posted by: D7 | September 6, 2007 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Golf and Shiraz? Really?

Posted by: WaPoLiveFan16 | September 6, 2007 3:46 PM | Report abuse

And my BS was to this statement

"THERE ARE NO BLACKOUTS WITH NFL SUNDAY TICKET" - which there are, the games being shown on Local channels are blacked out on sunday ticket, but again that is semantics so I understand the point you were trying to make

Posted by: Zebra | September 6, 2007 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Running the Gauntlet?
Taylor and Landry Destroy
I hear turf is soft

Posted by: D7 | September 6, 2007 3:50 PM | Report abuse

And here is the local areas description by wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_on_television

Posted by: Zebra | September 6, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Sure, Willie likes his golf and wine. He's a man of leisure! In an admirable way.

The PBR thing, I can only assume it's a hipster message about choosing a cheap beer and NOT drinking the Big Three U.S. American macrobrews, ignoring the constant ads for Bud, Coors, Miller's light lager offerings. (PBR is brewed by Miller these days, though.)

I dunno...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse

So is some hurricane heading for the East Coast this weekend? Or did that fizzle? What's the latest?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Nate...

Norman Chad wrote some dribble about how PBR is now his beer, he doesn't like macrobreweries, blahblahblah a few weeks back.

I commended him, but I do like PBR.

Posted by: WaPoLiveFan16 | September 6, 2007 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Nate- I remember a microbrew called Oregon Raspberry Wheat from, wow, gotta be the late 90s. Great stuff. Ever hear of it, or know if they still make it?

Posted by: 4-12 | September 6, 2007 4:03 PM | Report abuse

The main reason I think the Skins' D is going to be WAY better is b/c the number of guys who are "starters" -- esp., given how Grilliams constantly rotates in new packages and new guys -- has increased. Being a "starter" for Grilliams' D isn't the same as being a starter on offense. Only very few D guys are in for every play (Sean Taylor comes to mind). Seems like most of the other "starters" are on the field for somewhere btwn 70-90% of the snaps. The guys who do not technically "starters" - guys like Smoot, Macklin, Montgomery, Prioleau, eventually Godfrey -- are WAY better than their technical non-starter counterparts from last year and there are more of them.

Maybe this is Cap'n Obvious material, but given the some of the corpses upon whom the D need to rely last year -- Holdman, Wright, Rumph, and the one who must not be named -- it is essentially a different team. Doesn't Rogers (who will still be picked on) sound much better in the phrase Springs-Rogers-Smoot than it does in the phrase Rogers-Wright-Rumph?

Posted by: dcsween | September 6, 2007 4:03 PM | Report abuse

My pick up line is:

"Hey what do you say we go back to my house..... I have a 6 pack of PBR's and NWA's greatest hits!"

80% of the time, it works......Never.

Posted by: Seantizzy 2 d hizzy | September 6, 2007 4:04 PM | Report abuse

in reference to the Sunday Ticket Blackout stuff... blackout rules HAVE TO APPLY, but its not like what Zebra is trying to explain in the b'more wash area. It's like in the St Louis area last year when the dome wasnt sold out for x-mas, the game was blacked out and you couldnt see it on TV... in the STL area.

Posted by: Inigo Montoya | September 6, 2007 4:05 PM | Report abuse

That was decent beer but I'm thinking that was mid to early 90's and I haven't seen it in a long time. That was Pete Wicked's time.

Posted by: Skinz | September 6, 2007 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Lately I have been loving me some bud in the King Can.....does this make me a red state loser..

I also have been enjoying belgian wheat beers with limes or orange slices....does this make me a blue state loser...

Also have been loving something called a "Gin Daisy" at a bar my friend just opened. Its gin, juice, mint sprigs and crushed ice...does this make me a girl...

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 6, 2007 4:09 PM | Report abuse

WHO: Justin Bannan, DT/Ravens (formerly Bills)
WHY: He gets quoted on the second screen of this WaPo article today about Kendall ... as if he's quoteworthy or otherwise a guy we've ever heard of.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/05/AR2007090502551.html

Posted by: dcsween | September 6, 2007 4:09 PM | Report abuse

chris Larry, drinking Bud from a king can in Brooklyn is itself a counterculture statement. You represent the backlash against PBR and its ilk. Good on ya.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 4:12 PM | Report abuse

cL, don't fool yourself ... you are a loser no matter which of those new beer tastes you're loving. I do believe, however, that Snoop Dogg would resent being labeled a girl for the gin and juice ...

just fooling, cL. tell mrs cL that dcsween said "F chRIs Larry" and he meant it ... so she better get on that right away.

Posted by: dcsween | September 6, 2007 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Sween, you don't work in Springfield do you?

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Skinz- The googles shows it was actually a Boston brewed beeah. Bummer.

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/oregon-original-raspberry-wheat/2707/

Posted by: 4-12 | September 6, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

4-12, Skinz, apparently there's a reason we're not seeing Oregon Raspberry Wheat around these days... it's "retired"

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/oregon-rasberry-wheat/2707/

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

did somebody say Bud?

Posted by: Snoop Doggy Dog | September 6, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Hahaha...I am a loser....

When I was in Greece I was rockin the absenthe...just b/c I could legally....

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 6, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

4-12, Skinz, apparently there's a reason we're not seeing Oregon Raspberry Wheat around these days... it's "retired"

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/oregon-rasberry-wheat/2707/

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

One of my buddies tended bar at the Ruby Tuesday in C'ville during college, and after that Snoop Dogg song hit, he got the biggest kick out of all the gangster-acting tuff dudes who would come in -- as if acting tuff in a Ruby T wasn't bad enough -- and order gin and juice.

He would ask "what kind of juice?" and the dudes were flummoxed, they never knew what to say. They thought they were ordering a specific drink, like "gin and tonic." Got them every time.

Eh, it was funnier 14 years ago.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 4:18 PM | Report abuse

did somebody say Bud?

Posted by: Snoop Doggy Dog | September 6, 2007 4:21 PM | Report abuse

chris Larry, as J. Lennon said, whatever gets you through the night...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 4:21 PM | Report abuse

CL,

A good friend of mine is Czech. He brings that stuff back with him sometimes. That stuff will know your SJK in the dirt.

Posted by: Skinz | September 6, 2007 4:24 PM | Report abuse

There's a really old joke who's punchline is all I can remember now. I think it was "absinthe makes the fart go Honda".

Eh, it was funnier 40 years ago...

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 4:24 PM | Report abuse

RC, nope, though my pet shop is in Springfield (as is my Kwic-E-Mart, my nucular power plant, and Krusty-Lu studios). Why?

In other news ...

WHO: John Abraham
WHY: Getting paid like Lamborghini and having the durability of a Yugo.

Posted by: dcsween | September 6, 2007 4:29 PM | Report abuse

sween

it is addition by subtraction on d....you see on defense everyone plays, so you can't get away with having like in our case 6 or 7 guys who simply could not play (You know the names) so just by getting those guys off the roster and replacing them with others who can play makes you deeper and therefore better....now the reality is i think we have done more than replace we have signicantly improved.... Laundry, smoot, london's calling etc miles better than holdman et.al

Posted by: Old School | September 6, 2007 4:29 PM | Report abuse

WHO: periculum
WHY: Gigantic penile implant

Posted by: periculum | September 6, 2007 4:29 PM | Report abuse

*** Fantasy Football Post ***

Do we have to set our roster for the whole weekend before tonight's game?

Posted by: 4-12 | September 6, 2007 4:29 PM | Report abuse

WHO: periculum
WHY: Gigantic penile implant

Posted by: periculum | September 6, 2007 4:29 PM | Report abuse

4-12, yes.

Posted by: dcsween | September 6, 2007 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Loseable Type?

Not cool, dude. This is no time to start choking on our comments. It's Penultimatum time!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Who: Chad Johnson

Why: He's turned my 9-year-old son into a freaking Bengals fan! Me! My son! He should bleed burgundy and gold!

Posted by: farstriker | September 6, 2007 4:31 PM | Report abuse

No biggie sween, I just thought I remembered seeing your 'real' name somewhere and then remembered that I know someone of said 'real' name who works in Springfield, VA. S'all.

And I've been interpreting it that way 4-12, best of luck to all for this weeks' games.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 4:32 PM | Report abuse

WHO: Periculum
WHY: Bangkok Pizza Hut has the best Thai food.

Posted by: periculum | September 6, 2007 4:32 PM | Report abuse


*** Fantasy Football Post ***

Do we have to set our roster for the whole weekend before tonight's game?

Posted by: 4-12 | September 6, 2007 04:29 PM

I wondered this myself, can you change your roster between games during the same week?

Posted by: Stumped | September 6, 2007 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Had to work for awhile - the boss called.

DTV and Zebra, thanks to both of you. I should be able to see all the skins games unless the stadium is not sold out, which has not happened in a few years.

According to Directv Harford County is the "home area" for three teams: the ravens, the iggles, and the skins.

Again, thanks.

Posted by: Mark (in 21132) | September 6, 2007 4:32 PM | Report abuse

WHO: Nate
WHY: Fantasy football pest.

Posted by: periculum | September 6, 2007 4:35 PM | Report abuse

I don't believe so Stumped, although the ESPN one only locks out the players who are playing at that time, so you can still swap out ones who are playing on subsequent days/same day later times for such as others who are also playing on subsequent days/same days later times, blah blah blah *goes on for 40 more lines*

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Thanks FFers.

Posted by: 4-12 | September 6, 2007 4:36 PM | Report abuse

WHO: Clinton Portis
WHY: Likes the lazy island life.

Posted by: periculum | September 6, 2007 4:36 PM | Report abuse

During a short week, you only have between the end of the MNF game and the kickoff of the Thursday game to make roster changes.


*** Fantasy Island ***
Week One matchups

4th Floor @ More than Just Punters (Aussie)
Zebra @ Shoreditch Serpents (Aussie)
kost52 @ Redcoat
4-12 @ Stumped
dcsween @ jm220
He Nate Me @ SMACK


Good luck to everyone except SMACK.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Too much bud = man boobs

Posted by: Greg Williams | September 6, 2007 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Who: ME
WHY: CUT MY A$$

Posted by: say it ain't so ade jimoh | September 6, 2007 4:38 PM | Report abuse

periculum, sorry for the cheap shot above. I couldn't resist, dude.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 4:38 PM | Report abuse

How about we do RI blogger theme tunes as well, so that we could each have our own music blaring out as we emerge from the metaphorical blog-tunnel into view of the screaming hordes beyond.

I nominate:

WHO: Periculum
SONG: I wanna be sedated

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Mmmmmm Absynthe! Quite a fun time in Melbourne, Mates.

Any Dr. El Suavo fans out there!? hahahahaha!

Posted by: Dik | September 6, 2007 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Nate
I used to tend bar, and your buddy is dead on....I used to laugh about that as well. One thing you forgot to mention is that they would always order the drink with a toothpick stuck in their mouths.....and when you ask what kind of gin they want they are even further stupified. Not like they leave a tip anyway, so you might as well have fun with em...

Posted by: DanO | September 6, 2007 4:39 PM | Report abuse

what juice is in a gin and juice?

Posted by: whiteest guy ever | September 6, 2007 4:42 PM | Report abuse

WHO: cHriS lArRy
Song: If you don't want to fSJK me, fSJK off by the Dead Kennedy's

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 4:42 PM | Report abuse

What happened to jasno giving us an update post lockerroom

Posted by: Dante | September 6, 2007 4:42 PM | Report abuse

not to be demanding or anything

Posted by: Dante | September 6, 2007 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Any juice you want, actually. The funniest thing is that gin and anything except tonic tastes like SJK!

Posted by: DanO | September 6, 2007 4:44 PM | Report abuse

WHO:Redcoat
SONG: Bohemian Rhapsody


WHO: P Diddy
SONG: Super freak (b/c he dates the kinda girlz u dont bring home to mama)

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 6, 2007 4:44 PM | Report abuse

WHO: me
Song: "Portland, Oregon" by Loretta Lynn

"Portland, Oregon and sloe gin fizz
If that ain't love, then tell me what is"

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 4:45 PM | Report abuse

LMGO. How did you know I always wanted to don the Freddie Mercury spandex suit CL?

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Good one Red Coat....but I believe the song u suggest was Wayne/jayne County and the Electric Chairs...not dead kennady...but who is paying attention...

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 6, 2007 4:46 PM | Report abuse

So Nate walks out into a seething cauldron at FedEx with 90k people screaming his name at the top of their lungs, wreathed in dry ice and Loretta Lynn blaring out over the PA?

It sorta dies on the vine that one....

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Who: JLaC
What: Cry Me a River

Who: Lez Boren
What: I touch myself

Posted by: WaPoLiveFan16 | September 6, 2007 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: He's a bad person. | September 6, 2007 4:51 PM | Report abuse

periculum (if you ARE the real periculum), not to be peridantic, but WHO/WHY game answers the question "who is the most irritating current NFL player and why."

WHO: Lorena Bobbitt
SONG: One of These Days (by Pink Floyd)

Posted by: dcsween | September 6, 2007 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Sorry CL, you're right of course. The Dead Kennedy's was "too drunk to fSJK" wasn't it?

No-one's paying attention but any post (ex FF of course in due deference to your good self) is a good post, n'est pas?

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 4:52 PM | Report abuse

WHO: Jack
SONG: Hit the Road Jack.

Posted by: 4-12 | September 6, 2007 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Quick Poll for tonight?:

Gym then Bar

Bar then Bar

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2007 4:52 PM | Report abuse

WHO: Cyn Cyty
SONG: Cindy, incidentally by the Faces

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 4:53 PM | Report abuse

WHO: The AMAZING Dik Shuttle
SONG: "The New Carioca"

& as long as the Loretta Lynn song on the PA is "Now I've Found the Pill"... s'okay by me.

Posted by: Dik | September 6, 2007 4:53 PM | Report abuse

You obviously haven't heard that song, Redcoat! It kicks butt!

Um. WaPoLiveFan16, what was that??

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Ah a Meddle reference, that takes me back Sween to a time I don't actually remember. But the singing crowd on 'Fearless' from that album was the old Kop at Liverpool FC's soccer ground.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Plus, this metaphorical blog-stadium would be more like a bar, and the tunnel we're running down would lead to the bathrooms, and there would be more like nine people there, not 90k... it's a fun game, though.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 4:55 PM | Report abuse

A Crash and burn effort a la bloggers to songs.

Posted by: WaPoLiveFan16 | September 6, 2007 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Lez?? That didn't sound very nice. You kind of lost me there.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Dik, I salute you for checking off both the inimitable Jonathan and Darlene Edwards and The Kentucky Fried Movie in a single post!

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 4:56 PM | Report abuse

WHO: Cyn Cyty
SONG: Sin City (AC/DC)

Posted by: MV Dame | September 6, 2007 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Plus, this metaphorical blog-stadium would be more like a bar, and the tunnel we're running down would lead to the bathrooms, and there would be more like nine people there, not 90k... it's a fun game, though.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 04:55 PM

That's it Nate, crush the dreams of a small scorpion. Kick my dog while you're at it... *sniff*

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 4:58 PM | Report abuse

WHO: MV Dame
SONG: Pour Some Sugar On Me (Def Leppard)

Posted by: MV Dame | September 6, 2007 4:58 PM | Report abuse

ok,so I just noticed on redskins.com that Monte is the starter next to Griff not Golston, that's a little surprising.

Posted by: Jack | September 6, 2007 4:59 PM | Report abuse

WHO: Michael Vick
SONG: Who Let The Dogs Out (Baha Men)

Posted by: MV Dame | September 6, 2007 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Its super inside.

Just Kidding.

That darn Cyn Cyty...Always reminded me of that song. Must be her bloggy power that has me hypnotized. "Hypnotize" is probably a better choice for a song than "I touch myself."

Alright, its drinkin' time. See you guys on the other side.

HAIL!

Posted by: WaPoLiveFan16 | September 6, 2007 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Is Golston nicked or did Monte just beat him out?

Posted by: Jack | September 6, 2007 5:00 PM | Report abuse

WHO: Nate in the PDX
SONG: Area Codes (Ludacris and Nate Dogg)

Posted by: MV Dame | September 6, 2007 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Who: Me
What: Panama (van halen)

Posted by: WaPoLiveFan16 | September 6, 2007 5:02 PM | Report abuse

SJK it!! I played a quick nine at the local par 3.
Just enough to feed the dragon but not so much to keep me bloggin' me Irish guts out!

I seen me duty and I done it, sir!!

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Jack, JLaC got a question about that in today's 'chat':

D.C.: Why has Montgomery surpassed Golston on the depth chart -- has Montgomery outplayed him?

Jason La Canfora: I must have received 10 emails on this the last two days - first with Brunell listed as the No. 2 Qb and now this about Montgomery.

That depth chart has zero meaning, is not done by coaches and could not be more unofficial. To spare me the agony, if nothing else, there should be a disclaimer on that thing letting people know it is by no means an accurate depiction of the starters.

Golston is a starter.

Posted by: dcsween | September 6, 2007 5:03 PM | Report abuse

WHO: Reaper
SONG: Sunday Bloody Sunday

Posted by: 4-12 | September 6, 2007 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Replace "a drum" with "the blog" and ...

WHO: Typical RI blogger
SONG: "Bang On A Drum All Day" (by Todd Rundgren, or maybe its Utopia, I dunno)

Posted by: dcsween | September 6, 2007 5:04 PM | Report abuse

How 'bout "Blog on RI All Day"?

Posted by: MV Dame | September 6, 2007 5:07 PM | Report abuse

All right, I'm out til later. We've got about 2159 to go...

86,729

Posted by: MV Dame | September 6, 2007 5:09 PM | Report abuse

WHO: MV Dame or P Diddy
SONG: Stop Using Sex as a Weapon (P. Benetar)

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Anybody else getting non-stop fundraising emails and letters from presidential candidates?

Yeesh. Junk Mail filter working overtime...

Posted by: P Diddy | September 6, 2007 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Hi I'm Skippy and I have a metal plate in my head. I really really like lemon meringue pie.

Skippy have a question. Where my nukes at? I had 'em stacked next to a B-52, went into the Minot Cafe for some pie and when i came out they were missing.

Need them to power flux capacitor to lay down bets on last year's games to make money to buy more nukes to power flux capacitor for next trip black to the fuchia. Next trip Skippy will speal to Vinnie and Joe about Brunell Trade, Deion deal, Bruce Smith acquisition, Duckett trade and and genderal squamishing of draft picks.

Also will teach Larry Craig narrow stance.

Posted by: Skippy | September 6, 2007 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Love is a battlefield, sf...

Posted by: MV Dame | September 6, 2007 5:10 PM | Report abuse

MV must tail sween,
Foolish tries to be the last
Sween can endure all.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2007 5:10 PM | Report abuse

"With the Redskins just a few days away from their 2007 opener, Montgomery is listed as a starter opposite Cornelius Griffin at defensive tackle.

"I'd call that a major accomplishment," Montgomery said with an ear-to-ear smile. "The final depth chart isn't expected out until Friday, though, so I know I need to keep working hard.""

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=28845

Posted by: Monty vs. Golston | September 6, 2007 5:11 PM | Report abuse

WHO: sfskin
SONG: Hot For Teacher (Van Halen)

:)

Posted by: MV Dame | September 6, 2007 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't you know that a few years ago as PBR was trying to figure out how to deal with flaggin sales a bunch of hipster/punk doofuses in places like Portland began to drink it as an "eff the man and the microbrew" thing. PBR picked up on it and began a whole marketing campaign targeted and these 20 somethings who think PBR is this "hidden secret". Guess it worked.

It ain't real shti beer unless it's the Beast.

Sadly I seem to have developed the one beer hangover problem. PPPTTHHPPTT

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Keep it close at hand
Your precious boohoo box, sween
Wipe those tears away

Posted by: MV Dame | September 6, 2007 5:12 PM | Report abuse

WHO: Skippy
SONG: Rocketman

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2007 5:14 PM | Report abuse

http://www.ratebeer.com/Beer/widmer-brothers-widberry/610/

Sorry, i don't know how to make the above a link, but for you cut and pasters, this is the REAL oregon raspberry beer. And a SJK fine brew it is, 'specially comin' out of a cooler on a summer day alongside a river or a creek where the fat trout are bitin'.

How the SJK can a Massachussetts company brew an Oregon beer?

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 5:14 PM | Report abuse

OH.

Never mind.

Posted by: Emily Latelle | September 6, 2007 5:15 PM | Report abuse

MV - sure Love is a Battlefield but that is obvious choice. : )

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Who: Willie
Song: If That Ain't Love (Bobby Bare)

"I called up the police, swore that you stole my car,
I sold some nekkid pictures of you down at the bar,
Then I pointed out the parts of me that you used to kiss,
And if that ain't love what is."

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Diddy - I think you may be the only one amongst us hamsters who has the pile of greenbacks large enough that the candidates bother contacting you.

I've done some contributing but teeny amounts so I'm a nobody.

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 5:18 PM | Report abuse

"Woman, if that ain't love, then a Cadillac ain't a car.
And if you'd rather be, with him than me,
You's a stupider b**ch than I think you are."

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 5:18 PM | Report abuse

"I tore up your clothes, threw 'em out in the rain,
I flushed your birth control pills down the drain,
If you don't want mine, then you can't have his,
And if that ain't love what is."

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Fantasy related:

Does anybody have any info on Jerry Porter in Oakland? He's starting, right?

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | September 6, 2007 5:21 PM | Report abuse

No, no, 'coat, you're getting it all mixed up. I LIKE this game. To the extent I understand it. Which is not so much.

WHO: me
Song: "Sunday Morning Coming Down" by Johnny Cash

Explanation: 1pm Eastern games kick off at 10am Pacific.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Reasons for Optimism:

1. Soup is ready to cook.
After playing for four different OC's at Auburn, finishing 13-0 as a senior, watching from the sidelines for a year and a half, then playing 7 games, Campbell is ready to show his natural talents which have been augmented by an offseason/preseason of very hard work.

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: start Porter | September 6, 2007 5:23 PM | Report abuse

WHO: me
SONG: Cowboy's Lament (by Burl Ives)

Posted by: farstriker | September 6, 2007 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Nate, my main man, I thought Sunday mornin' comin' down was Kris Kristofferson.

Did the Man in Black cover it?

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Who: SMACK
Song: Pain (Alice Cooper)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxG-HVOUE-k

Posted by: SMACK | September 6, 2007 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Kris K. wrote it, Johnny made it great.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Who: Nate, Diddy, sfskin, west coasties Song: Breakfast after 10 (Blue October)

Posted by: 4-12 | September 6, 2007 5:26 PM | Report abuse

WHO: Skins fans
SONG: Momma Don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Miami is going to put an old fashion FOOTBALL as* wooping on those KOOLAIDE drinking Redskinettes and bring REALITY (for 1 day)to the SISSY FANS who continue to guzzle the same KOOLAIDE!!BOY WILL I BE LAUGHING and here everyday to RUB it in!hahahahaahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahwoohoowoohoowoohoowoohoowoohoowoohoowoohoowoohoo Im out of breath! Ill Be BACK!

Posted by: Gonna need more then KOOLAIDE! | September 6, 2007 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Loseable type?

Posted by: 4-12 | September 6, 2007 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Reasons for Pessimism:

1. Soup is not ready.

Everyone remembers Desmond Howard, and Gibbs obsession with him, spending two number 1's to get a guy that couldn't do anything more than return punts.

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Hey where are jm, lisa and lg?

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Who - Lisa
Song - Maneater (Hall and Oates)

Posted by: Merv | September 6, 2007 5:29 PM | Report abuse

The Cash version of "Sunday Morning Coming Down" was on the jukebox at a bar I worked at in Albany, CA, and I played that a LOT when we opened the bar on Sunday mornings, Sunday game days... one of my all-time faves.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Who: Bret Favre
Why: BC he can still throw a terrible pass to lose a game and everybody will just be like "oh its ok its bret favre," and the media refuses to get off his nuts....ITS OVER

bring on the hate, but you all know you agree

Posted by: SeanTay77 | September 6, 2007 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Reasons for Optimism:

2. The Offensive Line
Once Samuels and Kendall gel on the left side, this line is equal to any in the league, certainly as good or better than any in the NFC East.

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 5:30 PM | Report abuse

sfskin, littery genius went back to "dealer!"

jm220 stopped by to drop an F chris Larry but then must have had some of that "work" to do.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 5:31 PM | Report abuse

SeanTay77, I'm right with you. Favre was the most irritating dude I came up with, after Shockey the Monkey.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Reasons for Optimism:

2. The Offensive Line

Jansen is not up to his prior standards and there is little if any experienced depth.

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Who: The Crickets
Song: Strangers in the Night.

Posted by: 4-12 | September 6, 2007 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Ooops

Reasons for Pessimism:

2. The Offensive Line

Jansen is not up to his prior standards and there is little if any experienced depth.

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 5:35 PM | Report abuse

BTW Nate - gin and juice story was LOL. I don't know why but I simply can't take it seriously when frat boys try to act all "gansta"
You just wanna tell them that when you're wearing khakis and a button down even if you have a t-shirt underneath and are sporting timberlands you're STILL wearing khakis and you can lead the whitey to the dance floor and throw on some hip hop but he's still gonna flail his limbs all over creation with no rhthym and no idea that he has hips that can sway and knees that can bend.

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 5:36 PM | Report abuse

going back to dcsween's top irritating player: Mark Brunell on 3rd and long.

He's super smart.

Posted by: Dorf | September 6, 2007 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Man, sfskin, a one-beer hangover? I'd shoot myself.

Tonight me, the NFL on NBC, and several friendly PBRs have a date. God bless free over-the-air football.

Heck, I might even skip my chess night at our local pub tonight! Wahoo!

Posted by: farstriker | September 6, 2007 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Nate- I'll trade you Favre for either of your QBs, sight unseen. Come on. Do it. Great trade for the He Nate Me's!

Posted by: 4-12 | September 6, 2007 5:37 PM | Report abuse

I love the PBR marketing campaign. Very well executed.

Personally, for cheap beer, I'm a huge Miller High Life kinda guy. "The champagne of beers". I even drink it out of a champagne glass (no joke).

Posted by: P Diddy | September 6, 2007 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Favre...really....he is my non-skins dawg...gottal love the vicodin addiction...

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 6, 2007 5:39 PM | Report abuse

farstriker - it is a huge blow to my sad little existence since beer is pretty much the only alcohol I drink. Not that I drink a lot so I'm not giving up a lot but still BOO! BOO I say! BOO!

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Greatest beer slogan ever:

"Schaefer is the one beer to have . . .

. . . when you're having more than one!"

A call to quality!

Posted by: farstriker | September 6, 2007 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Reasons for Optimism

3: Clinton Portis
As detailed by Mike Wise and many on this blog, Portis is a proud man with much to prove and he will have as good a year as ever, perhaps his best year ever.

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 5:40 PM | Report abuse

I eat my french fries with a fork

Posted by: Dorf | September 6, 2007 5:40 PM | Report abuse

You guys are going to think I'm completely nuts, but...

I bailed on a date tonight with a chick who was guaranteed to do the horizontal mambo because I wanted to a) watch football, b) get drunk with my mates, and c) go to my favorite bar's anniversary party (at which will be several more pretty young women to pickup).

A bird in the hand and all that jazz...

Posted by: P Diddy | September 6, 2007 5:40 PM | Report abuse

4-12, I still can't understand why two people voted against my WR trade with Zebra. We each had that fun dilemma of threee starting WRs with the same bye week. And the dudes we traded were pretty even. I dunno...

Anyway, I'm sure you'll be just fine with Favre. He's got plenty of great throws left in that arm. Yes siree, Bob.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Diddy, one thing you're not going to get up here is much sympathy for the amusing little conundra you create in your personal life. Prurient interest? Check. Occasional fits of jealousy? Check. Sympathy? Naaaaah...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Reasons for Pessimism:

Clinton Portis
After taking off the last part of the 2006 season and all of preseason, Portis is unable to shake off the rust, and/or his tendinitis is more serious than any of us know or believe.

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Diddy, that is not strange at all. You're in touch with your rank-ordered preferences, is all. It's kind of sweet.

Posted by: farstriker | September 6, 2007 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Nate, I freely admit that my personal life is a train wreck of my own doing. I consciously make idiotic decisions ranging from bailing on dates all the way to choosing women specifically because of their propensity to break my heart and stomp on it with their dashing, smooth, long high-heeled legs.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 6, 2007 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Okay, gotta bail for an interval. Time to take the Bengals-loving 9-year-old to his soccer game.

Posted by: farstriker | September 6, 2007 5:46 PM | Report abuse

BTW what do we think really happened with the nukes over America incident?

Are our people really this dumb? Seriously? I know the Pentagon has loosened up recruitment requirements but come on.

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Reasons for Optimism:

4. Brandon Lloyd.
This dude can't be as bad as he was last year. When he got open, Brunell couldn't get the ball to him. He's a bit of a prima donna, and took it way too personally. He's got pride and he intends to answer all the critics this year with a pro bowl caliber year, even if he doesn't make the pro bowl.
Soup will find him repeatedly as teams try to double Moss.

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Who voted against your trade Nate? Maybe it was Kost's mates. Aussies. Can't take them anywhere.

Posted by: 4-12 | September 6, 2007 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Pierre leRoi has chosen us over the 'Fins. Good or harbinger of doom?

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Diddy, just finnin' ya. I think we all appreciate your service to NFL nation this fine evening.

Willie, you weren't kidding about blogging your guts out! You're actually making, like, good points and stuff. How's the Shiraz?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Reasons for Pessimism:

4. Brandon Lloyd
This dude not only can't play WR in this league, he can't rap for SJK.
He's a stinkin' prima donna who got his money without earning it and now thinks the world owes him whatever his chicken crap heart desires.

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Drive on Willie...drive on.

Posted by: Stumped | September 6, 2007 5:49 PM | Report abuse

The nukes over America thing is INSANE. There has to be a story there, because something so amazingly important couldn't just be a result of a dumb error.

Then again, a dumb error managed to get a moron elected president in 2000. So maybe it really was a complete fSJKwit...

Posted by: P Diddy | September 6, 2007 5:49 PM | Report abuse

FUNNin' ya. Not finnin' ya. That was NOT a Lap Fin joke.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 5:50 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't be surprise if it was Redcoat. The draft was a setup. Readcoat is just mad because the smack down is coming to his JV team on Sunday.

Posted by: jm220 | September 6, 2007 5:51 PM | Report abuse

sfskin, I think people are expecting a very close game between two teams with a lot of "ifs," and in that situation it makes sense to go with the home team. I think.

Funny, I'm going with the home team as well.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 5:51 PM | Report abuse

I have the same bye week (4) problem at RB. I think I'll just pick up some schmo on waivers to cover that week.

Posted by: Stumped | September 6, 2007 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Nate, my main man.

The Shiraz can wait until the sun goes down and Deb fills the jacuzzi with bubbly water and lights the candles.

For now, I am a man on a mission.

Thanks for noticing and for the props but I get the feeling that you're more than a bit surprised that I can make a cogent point.

Or am I just being sensitive?

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 5:52 PM | Report abuse

While you're at the soccer game, you might want to consider trading your Bengals-loving kid for a 'Skins-loving kid. To pull it off, just pay the new kid $1000 a week in allowance, convince your wife to buy him all new clothes, schedule a news conference with Tom Cruise and Jamie Foxx to introduce him to the world, and charge $40 for folks to park outside your house and visit the kid.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 6, 2007 5:52 PM | Report abuse

sfskin- Very funny on the hips and knees thing. Ever see "Hitch" with Will Smith? Good scene in that where he tries to teach Kevin James to dance, to no avail.

Posted by: 4-12 | September 6, 2007 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Just had the worst thought...

Given last year's shenanigans with Tom and Katie, what on earth is "Mr." Snyder going to do on Sunday???

Posted by: P Diddy | September 6, 2007 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Reason for Optimism:

5: Shawn Springs
A former number one pick and Pro Bowl caliber player, Springs can do it all; cover #1 receivers week in and week out, blitz from the corner, and stop the run.

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Reasons for Pessimism:

5. Shawn Springs
While still a player of great ability, Springs has had more than his share of injuries, pulled muscles, strains, and bruises that have made him less than effective, or out of the lineup altogether.
Without his ability and leadership, this secondary becomes very ordinary, maybe even mediocre.

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Ron Paul for President!!!!

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 5:57 PM | Report abuse

No, no, Willie, just impressed any of us bothers making coherent footbally points any more.

It's like you and Old School, and once in a while sween (like one out of every ten posts) as well.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Question: 3:10 to Yuma (a remake) is the first of a wave of big Westerns. Anybody excited?

I do like that Russell Crowe, and I like a good Western, but I don't know about going out of my way to see it on the big screen.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Who: Redskins Nation
Song: I Want a Sunday Kinda Love (The Incomparable Etta James)

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Never been a Western fan, but I do love Tombstone: "I'm your huckleberry".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W28EBu8HU-8

Posted by: P Diddy | September 6, 2007 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Ron Paul for President!!!!

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 05:57 PM

Amen Willie

Posted by: Dante | September 6, 2007 6:04 PM | Report abuse

**My fantasy footbal question**

Who would you start tonight? Manning or Brees.

I'm leaning towards Brees right now.

Posted by: me | September 6, 2007 6:05 PM | Report abuse

"football"

Posted by: me | September 6, 2007 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Reasons for Optimism:

6. Donovan McNabb
McNabb has been as injury prone as any player in the NFC East the last few years and the Iggles have no Jeff Garcia to bail them out this year.

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Here's something for some more laughs although not football related.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riibTdL4u08

What was the world like before YouTube?

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Reasons for Pessimism:

6. Donovan McNabb
Healthy, he makes the difference. He's easily the best QB in the NFC East at this point in his career, and has proven over and over that he can take a team deep into the playoffs. Arguably the best QB in the NFL without a Super Bowl ring.

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Willie - keep the posts coming! I like the glass half full/empty.

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 6:11 PM | Report abuse

sfskin, what did you do with class room full of ddodles?
are they still sharpening their pencils?
or is this cookie, bwankie, and nap time?

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 6:12 PM | Report abuse

errr. sorry, should have read "doodles"

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Diddy you still here? I love Steve Jobs. If he ever leaves, I'm selling immediately.

http://www.apple.com/hotnews/openiphoneletter/

Posted by: 4-12 | September 6, 2007 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Reasons for Optimism:

7. Coaching Staff
Gibbs and his guys have all the rings necessary to prove their credibility in this league.
Gibbs has had the time it takes to assemble the right blend of youth and vets necessary to make a run.

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 6:15 PM | Report abuse

301 posts in just under 4 hours...

75 posts an hour...

You guys have been BYGO.

*bows down*

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 6, 2007 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Reasons for Pessimism:

7. Coaching Staff
All the pundits and the RI bloggers are right. The game has passed by Gibbs, Buges, et. al.
Snyder continues to throw money at the wrong players and refuses to hire anyone who is truly capable of evaluating NFL talent.

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Yup, saw the iPhone credit. I thought it was unnecessary, but I'll take it! I plan on buying a 15" MacBook once Leopard ships.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 6, 2007 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Reasons for Optimism:

8. Chris Cooley
This guy is the real deal and with his contract extension taken care of him, he joins Gonzalez and Gates at the top of the list of great TE's.

On his way to a Pro Bowl year, he scores 12 TD's becoming a true demon in the Red Zone and Soup's favorite target when Moss and others are covered.

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 6:22 PM | Report abuse

In honor of Pavorotti's passing: (courtesy of Verdi, via Wikipedia, all in the name of the Penultimatum)

La donna è mobile
Qual piuma al vento,
Muta d'accento -- e di pensiero.
Sempre un amabile,
Leggiadro viso,
In pianto o in riso, -- è menzognero.

È sempre misero
Chi a lei s'affida,
Chi le confida -- mal cauto il cuore!
Pur mai non sentesi
Felice appieno
Chi su quel seno -- non liba amore!

Posted by: P Diddy | September 6, 2007 6:23 PM | Report abuse

I feel sooo sad for that poor lady who will not get to experience the ecstacy of doing the "horizontal mambo" with Diddy. I'm in tears as I write this....poor, poor girl.

Posted by: Lisa | September 6, 2007 6:24 PM | Report abuse

And, the translation (so appropos):

Woman is flighty
Like a feather in the wind,
She changes her voice -- and her mind.
Always sweet,
Pretty face,
In tears or in laughter, -- she is always lying.

Always miserable
Is he who trusts her,
He who confides in her -- his unwary heart!
Yet one never feels
Fully happy
Who on that bosom -- does not drink love!

Posted by: P Diddy | September 6, 2007 6:24 PM | Report abuse

F Pierre LeRoi
F Coffeenerd bullSJK

Skippy roolz.

Skippy said, Fiat Nukes.
And there wasn't any.
And Skippy saw that it was good.

Posted by: sieskani | September 6, 2007 6:24 PM | Report abuse

I'm done with kids for the day. Now I'm just trying to do productive things and prepare for back to school night. Not easy what with the blog and a headahce.

R.I.P. Pavarotti and Effi Barry

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, Lisa. I'm sure she's at home with Kleenex, attempting to cheer herself up by reading Dr. Seuss and the Berenstein Bears.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 6, 2007 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Reasons for Pessimism:

8. Chris Cooley.
Sorry, I just can't find a down side to Cooley. I've loved him since he was a rookie and at the pace he's on, he'll retire as one of my top 10 all time favorite Skins.
Love his anti-establishment personality and the Old Hippie in me loves his long hair.
Thank God the FO saw the light on this guy and got it done.

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 6:25 PM | Report abuse

What does one do at Back to School Night?

Posted by: P Diddy | September 6, 2007 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Apple up over 50% since February
Motley Fool says, hold 'em

Posted by: sieskani | September 6, 2007 6:26 PM | Report abuse

As we were speaking of whiteys earlier here is one of the great moments of genius in Eddie Murphy's career.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4402897013051860643&q=Kill+the+white+people&total=516&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=3

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 6:26 PM | Report abuse

I pause in my Guts Out bloggin' to pay respect to one of the greatest of all tenors, Pavarotti...
Vaya Con Dios, Amigo.

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 6:28 PM | Report abuse

redskins.com has to be among the most poorly laid out Web sites in the NFL. And the online store is horrible. No way to track order history from my account page. Bah, humbug. It's like they're stuck in 1999 or something.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 6, 2007 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Back to School Night - parents "follow" their kids' schedule so we have our class period for 10 minutes where we give our little spiel about us, the course, objectives, learning, grades blah blah blah.
It let's parents and teachers put names to faces and lets parents know if you're Skippy or if you're Einstein.

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Oooooh, YouTube version of La Donne e Mobile, with Pavoratti!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCFEk6Y8TmM

Posted by: P Diddy | September 6, 2007 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Willie meant to say "Caio"

Posted by: Stumped | September 6, 2007 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Interesting. Do they get lockers, pimples, and shunned by the cool parents, too? Because that would be awesome.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 6, 2007 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, Stumped.

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 6:32 PM | Report abuse

The truth.
Willie, must have been that SIGN CHRIS COOLEY guy.

Posted by: Stumped | September 6, 2007 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: P Diddy | September 6, 2007 6:34 PM | Report abuse

If he would become the "HIRE A GM" guy, we should give him a medal.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 6, 2007 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Or possibly... arrivederci

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Stumped, did you mean "Ciao"?

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Willie,
You are right. Ciao would be bad news for me.

Posted by: Stumped | September 6, 2007 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Well, fellow hamsters, I'm temporarily offline, but will return with a vengeance later this evening.

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Interesting odds and ends to win the trivia contest at the bar:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=lukas/070905

Posted by: P Diddy | September 6, 2007 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Farstriker, I'm deeply sorry to hear about your son. I believe there are support groups for that type of thing. Wait, the mailman isn't a Bengals fan is he?

Posted by: SkinsTE85 | September 6, 2007 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Nate:

Would you rather see "3:10 to Yuma" or "The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford,"?

(or, as I like to call it,

TAoJJBtCRF.)

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 6, 2007 7:05 PM | Report abuse

SC, I think I'm going to wait a few months and stack them in my Netflix queue, to watch them back to back to back (I think there are three Westerns coming, the new Coen Bros. joint is the third), like I did with the magic movies and could have done with Mars movies and gladiator costume movies.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Who:Sonic Jones

Song: B-Boys Making with the Freak-Freak (Beastie Boys.

"SJK, if it's going to be that kind of a party
I'm gonna stick my SJK in the mashed potatoes"

Posted by: SonicJones | September 6, 2007 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Nate you are some kinda super-freak.

Posted by: Stumped | September 6, 2007 7:16 PM | Report abuse

what about football movies?

Invincible
Any Given Sunday

Posted by: sieskani | September 6, 2007 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Freakin' GREAT day up here.

Hope for a great evening ahead.

About 2,000 comments to reach 88,888. We might just make it after all! (Cyn City throws hat in air.)

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Is Debbie Does Dallas a football movie?

Posted by: Terrell Owens | September 6, 2007 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Off-topic, but important: where do I have to go to catch redskins games in NYC? Any bar that shows them?

Posted by: NYC | September 6, 2007 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Who: Periculum
Why: Priest Holmes

Posted by: JK | September 6, 2007 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Who: Priest Holmes
Why: Periculum

I echo the previous sentiment.

Posted by: JK | September 6, 2007 7:30 PM | Report abuse

NYC, we rapped about that a few threads back... sorry but I can't remember what the consensus recommendation was for NYC Skins bars, but there was one leading suggestion in Manhattan and another in Brooklyn...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 7:34 PM | Report abuse

ITA?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2007 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Nate...yeah, the Cohen brothers have a new western too? Hadn't heard that.

I have been watching "Extras," Ricky Gervais' HBO series (follow-up to The Office) from the Netflix. Funny, in a Ricky Gervais sort of way.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 6, 2007 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Off-topic, but important: where do I have to go to catch redskins games in NYC? Any bar that shows them?

Posted by: NYC | September 6, 2007 07:25 PM

Somebody? JM220, Nate, Chris LaRRY?

NYC, check back...you'll get an answer.

These hamsters have been Blogging their Guts Out up here today and when they get back up here, they'll hook you up to a good place to watch. They're probably getting lined up for the game tonight.

Posted by: Stumped | September 6, 2007 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Golston is a starter.
Montgomery is "officially" Griffin's backup.

The online depth chart is a joke. There is also lots of rotation, so you will see any two of the three on the field at the same time.

Posted by: CW | September 6, 2007 7:41 PM | Report abuse

HAHA Stumped...I am such a hamster...

My tv and 'puter are in different rooms, so I come run in between rooms and hit "refresh" on RI during TV commercials and half time...

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 6, 2007 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Bring back Jerome!
Bring back Jerome!
Bring back Jerome!

http://www.clintonportis.com/characters.html

Posted by: Wha Happened?!? | September 6, 2007 7:42 PM | Report abuse

JG isn't crazy about the costumes, Wha Happened?!? I never understood the whole costume thing.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 6, 2007 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, guys. If anyone remembers the thread with the relevant discussion, please let me know. Love reading everyone's thoughts, but would hate to browse through all 88,000 comments...

Posted by: NYC | September 6, 2007 7:44 PM | Report abuse

No need for me up here today...yet.

Posted by: Life Support | September 6, 2007 7:47 PM | Report abuse

SCSkinsFan,
One word for you: wireless network.

Posted by: Stumped | September 6, 2007 7:47 PM | Report abuse

A bird in the hand and all that jazz...

Posted by: P Diddy | September 6, 2007 05:40 PM

Is worth two with a Busch?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2007 7:50 PM | Report abuse

haha...thats two words!

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 6, 2007 7:51 PM | Report abuse

As we near kickoff of the opening game of the '07 season (all pause and pay your respects in your own ways), one thing strikes me. The incredible durability of Peyton Manning. As far as I can tell, he has suffered none of the following...

Blinding concussion
Subdural hematoma
Deviated septum
Sprained or broken neck
Shattered clavicle
Spinal menangitis
Separated shoulder
Severely bruised sternum
Dislocated or hyperextended elbow
Fused or flimsy wrist
Sudden loss of all fingers or fingernails
Gangrene or frostbite
Ruptured spleen
Overexposure to sunlight or TV cameras
Elephantitis
Charlie Horse or menstrual cramps
Knife wound to thigh
MCL or ACL
NCCL (Norovirus from Carnival Cruise Line)
Shin splints
Fallen arches or Turf toe

Wow that's a lucky fellow. Probably the luckiest football player I've ever seen.


Posted by: SMACK | September 6, 2007 7:51 PM | Report abuse

smack could have broken that into many posts!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2007 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Mrs Redcoat and my first 'official' date was a 3 Tenors concert in DC in April 2000. A magical night - Pavarotti still in full voice. When he came forward to sing the hairs would stand up on the back of your neck. I admit I blubbed like a baby when he sang Nessun Dorma as I genuinely never believed I would hear him sing live. When he, Domingo and Carreras sang together it was night and day; those guys are wonderful, but his voice was SO richly melodic and so damn strong even in his 60s.

We saw him again at Madison Square Gardens in September 2000 to celebrate her birthday. If anything he was even better - he sang Che Gelida Manina and REALLY nailed the high notes. I managed to talk my way into a backstage pass so that we could meet him afterwards.

We stuck around for about 45 minutes in a queue to see the maestro only to be told "he's too tired to see anyone else" when were about 10ft from the dressing room door.

But his people were super-nice and sent Mrs Redcoat a signed 8x10 wishing her a happy birthday.

I may never live to hear someone that good again, but I'm so glad I did get to hear him.

"Principe del dolce di buona notte"

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 7:55 PM | Report abuse

ITA

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2007 7:55 PM | Report abuse

What the hay is going on up here? Everyone behavin? Is it too much that I just got home, and set my DVR to catch as much pre/post game crap and the game itself as possible. Of course, this being done due to my 9:00 AM EST arrival at Purple Lot F Fed Ex Field. Holy Crap! I cant take it. "3-2 final, and I am cherry." That Joe Gibbs with his sweet old man quotes!

Posted by: Club 320 | September 6, 2007 7:58 PM | Report abuse

ITA? Would that be "It's the Arts" with Johann Gambolputty de von Ausfern -schplenden -schlitter -crasscrenbon -fried -digger -dangle -dungle -burstein -von -knacker -thrasher -apple -banger -horowitz -ticolensic -grander -knotty -spelltinkle -grandlich -grumblemeyer -spelterwasser -kürstlich -himbleeisen -bahnwagen -gutenabend -bitte -eine -nürnburger -bratwustle -gerspurten -mit -zweimache -luber -hundsfut -gumberaber -shönendanker -kalbsfleisch -mittler -raucher von Hautkopft of Ulm. To do justice to this man, thought by many to be the greatest name in German Baroque music, we present a profile of Johann Gambolputty de von Ausfern -schplenden -schlitter -crasscrenbon -fried -digger -dangle -dungle -burstein -von -knacker - thrasher -apple -banger -horowitz -ticolensic -grander -knotty -spelltinkle -grandlich -grumblemeyer -spelterwasser - kurstlich -himbleeisen -bahnwagen -gutenabend -bitte -ein -nürnburger -bratwustle -gerspurten -mit -zweimache - auuber -hundsfut -gumberaber -shönendanker-kalbsfleisch -mittler -aucher von Hautkopft of Ulm, Anon?

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Blogging of the highest quality earlier Willie. Brava sir, brava!

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat, I could have told almost the exact same story, but about Chuck Mangione.

"It a feels a so good"

Just giving you a hard time man, just could never handle opera. I'm still trying to buy this classical music BS.

Posted by: SMACK | September 6, 2007 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Kelly is looking a little chubby.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 6, 2007 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Kelly is looking a little chubby.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 6, 2007 08:03 PM

A little? She's making me feel better about my joe.

Posted by: club 320 | September 6, 2007 8:06 PM | Report abuse

but would still stick er good.....

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2007 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Joe= Joey= Pouch= belly or gut. Thank you.

Posted by: Club 320 | September 6, 2007 8:08 PM | Report abuse

It let's parents and teachers put names to faces and lets parents know if you're Skippy or if you're Einstein.

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 06:29 PM

sfskin - MUCH closer to Einstein than to Skippy.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2007 8:09 PM | Report abuse

what would you get if skippy mated with sfskin?

Posted by: Bandy | September 6, 2007 8:11 PM | Report abuse

My friend saw the 3 tenors when they performed in the Forbidden City in Beijing said it was majestic and awesome.

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Just giving you a hard time man, just could never handle opera. I'm still trying to buy this classical music BS.

Posted by: SMACK | September 6, 2007 08:03 PM

My musical tastes are varied to say the least. Many years ago I went to see Motorhead in concert and played pinball with Lemmy for a couple of hours afterwards. Man that guy can drink, he must be preserved in alcohol by now.

Still like Motorhead AND Pavarotti today too.

But I draw the line at John Cougar Mellencamp (on TV now) that guy is crap.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 8:11 PM | Report abuse

anyone want to play FF on wapo?

hurrrrrry up and tell me! before kickoff...just for fun

Posted by: dealer | September 6, 2007 8:11 PM | Report abuse

What's really scary SMACK is I own "The Children of Sanchez" by Chuck Mangione....

And a copy of "Never Mind the B*llo*cks"!

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 8:13 PM | Report abuse

smack could have broken that into many posts!

Posted by: | September 6, 2007 07:55 PM

I could have, but didn't want to curse him. I mean, it really is like Peyton is pitching a perfect game!

Posted by: SMACK | September 6, 2007 8:14 PM | Report abuse

I can believe that sfskin, but sadly I think Yanni has played the Forbidden City too, so the place is forever 'roont' for me now.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 8:15 PM | Report abuse

Good topic for a duller time...musical dichotomy. We're gonna get a smackdown up here though.

MC Hammer and MC5.

Posted by: SMACK | September 6, 2007 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Kick out the jams!!!!

SMACK you have gone up 2.73% in my estimation on that one post alone.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Morning everyone!

Sorry I haven't been around doing my part for the Blog Count!

Posted by: kost52 | September 6, 2007 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Hello my name is sfippy, me daddy have metal plate in head so me hafe one two.

Me mommy have shopped a soapbox for me birfday. I now going to get uptop it and say that me thinks all people should drive Hummer3 because they has better gas mileage and if you drive a Hummer you are stoopid.

I also like football especially the Washington Native Americans. I like to sing the song Hail to the Native Americans which my mommy tells me is the right way to sing it because calling people "redskin" is offensive to people who have sunburns because they are too stoopid to were sunscreen. And we should not offend white people because they are an oppressed majority.

Thanks. I lofe my mommy and daddy.

Posted by: sfippy | September 6, 2007 8:18 PM | Report abuse

what would you get if skippy mated with sfskin?

Posted by: Bandy | September 6, 2007 08:11 PM

A PPTP that didn't work.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2007 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Was that your best Richie Benaud Kost?

All ready for your b!tch-slapping this weekend at FFL?

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Can you guys in DC hear the whole city of B-more booing right now?

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Yeah if you don't know MC5, get to know them. But the sweetest sound right now will be a foot hitting a pigskin.

This is like when that guy from the Academy comes out and everyone goes and takes a pish.

Posted by: SMACK | September 6, 2007 8:20 PM | Report abuse

who the fcuk is this in fat pin stripes?

Posted by: dealer | September 6, 2007 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Dante | September 6, 2007 8:21 PM | Report abuse

That's just as likely as the Dolphins putting up 40 against the skins!

Posted by: kost52 | September 6, 2007 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Guys aren't we on an Int'l break this weekend?

Holland Bulgaria kost. We need that one badly.

Posted by: SMACK | September 6, 2007 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Can someone explain teh significance of "Don't get fooled again" to the Clots?

Is it perhaps a backbiting comment on them sneaking through to win it all with a 'bum' defense last year?

Or is it just that EVERY great Who song has now been purchased for use on TV, no matter how tenuous the relevance.

What next, "Love, reign o'er me" for The Weather Channel?

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 8:23 PM | Report abuse

the razr commercial sucks!

Posted by: dealer | September 6, 2007 8:23 PM | Report abuse

As a mark of respect I will now stand.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Great story, Redcoat. Thanks for sharing.

Pavarotti singing Nessun Dorma is on par with Michelangelo carving the Pieta. It's genius that this world has been blessed to enjoy for a short time, and is now much worse off for having lost.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 6, 2007 8:26 PM | Report abuse

i'm such a loser!!!!! in the heat of the moment i joined like 5 FF leagues! so far i have LT in both o the leagues i checked...

Posted by: dealer | September 6, 2007 8:28 PM | Report abuse

can I get that 30 minutes back of my life? at least the game is finally coming on

Posted by: RBD202 | September 6, 2007 8:28 PM | Report abuse

what would you get if skippy mated with sfskin?

Posted by: Bandy | September 6, 2007 08:11 PM

A PPTP that didn't work.

Posted by: | September 6, 2007 08:18 PM

Um, let me expand on that a bit. The end result would be a woman teacher holding a newborn infant, and the father standing nearby, trying to figure out how a PPTP works.

Better?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2007 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Wow K just brought it. Don't like all the make up she was wearing but the girl can sing.

Redcoat you need to stand down Mr. Setup man. LMGO

Posted by: jm220 | September 6, 2007 8:28 PM | Report abuse

I think we're less than 3 songs away now people.

Posted by: SMACK | September 6, 2007 8:31 PM | Report abuse

From the sounds of things, my 'live' game is a bit behind you guys.

Posted by: kost52 | September 6, 2007 8:31 PM | Report abuse

I am a extremely zealous U2 fan - they are my fave by leaps and bounds and feel free to pile on scorn I could care less. I've loved them since I was 11.

Anyhoo when they sing Miss Sarajevo with Pavarotti it brings tears to my eyes pretty much every single time.

Yanni on the other hand needs to be shot into space with Paris Hilton and John Tesh.

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Diddy.

Mrs Redcoat has always been an afficionado of Bocelli also (I know he's not in the same league) and we got to meet him last year after a Christmas concert in DC. He sang "Santa Maria" from Sacred Arias that night (that tune from The Godfather) and the last note was so beautiful there was barely a dry eye in the house. A 'small' voice by classical standards but very melodic too.

He's a really nice, shy guy, and he seems to have an extraordinary effect on women.
A German guy I worked with years ago had the same effect. As a friend of mine once memorably - but crudely - put it, "When Thomas pats a girl on the head her knickers fall down".

We now retunr you to your normal football programming.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Who: Redcoat
Song: "Did We Not Choose Each Other" by Sophie B. Hawkins

Posted by: Enrty Songs Deluxe | September 6, 2007 8:34 PM | Report abuse

I can't sjking believe I got called out up here.

Posted by: Michelangelo | September 6, 2007 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Only one song away now, surely.

Posted by: SMACK | September 6, 2007 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Couldn't reach my mate 'Shoreditch' in time. Guess that means Zebra gets a win in Week 1!

Posted by: kost52 | September 6, 2007 8:38 PM | Report abuse

I am a extremely zealous U2 fan - they are my fave by leaps and bounds and feel free to pile on scorn I could care less. I've loved them since I was 11.

Yanni on the other hand needs to be shot into space with Paris Hilton and John Tesh.

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 08:33 PM

I can agree on that SF, I got to see them in 1980 for the princely sum of 1 pound admission (first album wasn't out yet) and myself and a good friend at teh time heckled Adam Clayton for being such a f*ckin' poser (which he was back then).

They tore the place up for about an hour - all the songs they had then - and the crowd of about 25 people went home happy. Great beer-driven days.

As for the Yanni suggestion LMGO. Mrs Redcoat 1.0 was a BIG fan. I however am most definitely not.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 8:38 PM | Report abuse

WHO: jm220
SONG: Sexy MotherSJK

(not trying to start anything Lisa promise:) )

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 8:38 PM | Report abuse

Woohoo!!

And we're off!

Posted by: kost52 | September 6, 2007 8:40 PM | Report abuse

YEEEEEEHAAAAAWWWWWWWWWW - FOOTBALL!!!

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 8:41 PM | Report abuse

One more for the Penultimatum

Posted by: Dante | September 6, 2007 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Great, my 1st rnd pick is injured on the first play of the season!

Posted by: kost52 | September 6, 2007 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Who: Redcoat
Song: "Did We Not Choose Each Other" by Sophie B. Hawkins

Posted by: Enrty Songs Deluxe | September 6, 2007 08:34 PM

I didn't know that one, ta muchly for the 'Fins mention. If we're going that route I would definitely go for:

Heroes, David Bowie

I, I wish I could swim.
Like the dolphins, the dolphins can swim.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Joseph Addai hurt in first play of the game. The Colts season is over.

Posted by: Sound familiar | September 6, 2007 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Hey look! It's Punter Hunter!

Posted by: kost52 | September 6, 2007 8:44 PM | Report abuse

I'm on stand-by. Come on people!

Posted by: LIfe Support | September 6, 2007 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Where's the count at? I know, I know, right behind the at.

Posted by: Pulldownclaw | September 6, 2007 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Saints should have kept me. They'd be up right now 3-0.

Posted by: John Carney | September 6, 2007 8:54 PM | Report abuse

A three way with sfskin, jm220, and skippy?

Posted by: Bandy | September 6, 2007 8:54 PM | Report abuse

It's good to see that Mare can't kick any better for the Saints than he did for us in 10 years. Feely was real upgrade there.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Pretty nice drive by the Saints, too bad they couldn't come away with anything.

5 TCCL's for the start of the season.

Posted by: Pulldownclaw | September 6, 2007 8:55 PM | Report abuse

You guys all watching the game?

Posted by: Dante | September 6, 2007 8:57 PM | Report abuse

I guess there's only room for one Dallas in this league.

Posted by: Dallas Sartz | September 6, 2007 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Yeah Marvin! Can you feel that Redcoat??

Posted by: kost52 | September 6, 2007 9:00 PM | Report abuse

First TD for my fantasy team. WOOOOOHOOOOO!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2007 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Nice touchdown pass there... i can't wait to see JC throwing some of those this year

Posted by: Dante | September 6, 2007 9:01 PM | Report abuse

I think we lost our edge as a superpower when we decided that pizza needed a dipping sauce.

Posted by: SMACK | September 6, 2007 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget I have Brees in this game Kost, he's going to throw lots to get them back into this game.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Is that a reception?

Posted by: kost52 | September 6, 2007 9:07 PM | Report abuse

.2 pts for Brees.

Posted by: SMACK | September 6, 2007 9:07 PM | Report abuse

I think we lost our edge as a superpower when we decided that pizza needed a dipping sauce.

Posted by: SMACK | September 6, 2007 09:04 PM

ditto

Posted by: Dante | September 6, 2007 9:09 PM | Report abuse

IT Fantasy A

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2007 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Haha Drew Brees just got credited with 3 passing yards and 3 receiving yards for that play! haha

Posted by: kost52 | September 6, 2007 9:11 PM | Report abuse

What are you guys going to do when some of your players are playing the skins? Is there a home rule that no one can play there players facing the skins?....

Posted by: Dante | September 6, 2007 9:12 PM | Report abuse

when you eat pizza that tastes like diarrhea like pizza hut you need a dipping sauce to drown out the flavor

Posted by: daveb56 | September 6, 2007 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Doug Williams second rarest sacked qb ever

Posted by: Dante | September 6, 2007 9:13 PM | Report abuse

this game got interesting all of a sudden...

Posted by: dealer | September 6, 2007 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Dan Marino rarest sacked QB, yes!

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 9:21 PM | Report abuse

I'm moving to Seattle mid-season and don't know whether I'll be able to get the Ticket for Skins' games. Does anyone know how I can watch the games live without it? Is there a Redskins-only subscription service, or am I up the creek having to settle for Larry Michael on Triple X ESPN Radio?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2007 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Nice turnover nice turnover woo!

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 9:22 PM | Report abuse

It was good to see the Saints D do something.

Posted by: jm220 | September 6, 2007 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Let's all give a thanks for the fact that having a TV in every classroom is now the standard.

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 9:23 PM | Report abuse

It was great seeing Doug Williams in a Skins uni. I believe JC will bring us another ring.

Posted by: jm220 | September 6, 2007 9:24 PM | Report abuse

good return...

NOLA's got the mo

Posted by: dealer | September 6, 2007 9:24 PM | Report abuse

it is still our country!

fck!

Posted by: dealer | September 6, 2007 9:26 PM | Report abuse

A year later and it's still our country! Case you were wonderin'!

Posted by: SMACK | September 6, 2007 9:26 PM | Report abuse

shut the f up john cougar. chevy had 8 months to get a new commercial lazy arses

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2007 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else get extremely tired of hearing "This is Our Country" on every commercial break?

Posted by: F JCM! | September 6, 2007 9:27 PM | Report abuse

I guess I'm not alone.

Posted by: F JCM! | September 6, 2007 9:28 PM | Report abuse

***GAMBLING POST***

Who's betting in the house?

Posted by: SMACK | September 6, 2007 9:28 PM | Report abuse

86,966. time to diaper up, peeps.
i'm feeling a little better about picking the saints earlier today....i'm sure this is about to change.

Posted by: Cindy | September 6, 2007 9:29 PM | Report abuse

i love bob sanders (only player on the colts) but i just want to see him get blown up...maybe we'll see our big mike sellers do it to him

Posted by: dealer | September 6, 2007 9:29 PM | Report abuse

17 weeks of "this is our country"...plus the playoffs and supe. oy.

Posted by: Cindy | September 6, 2007 9:30 PM | Report abuse

That play was designed for Priest Holmes.

Posted by: SMACK | September 6, 2007 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Cindy, do you mean diaper up like a crazy astronaut and drive cross country hell bent on payback? Or is it a diaper up so you can stay by the keg all night kind of thing?

Posted by: Pulldownclaw | September 6, 2007 9:31 PM | Report abuse

maree o mareeeeee

Posted by: dealer | September 6, 2007 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Damn you Bush dropping that pass...

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 9:34 PM | Report abuse

there's only one thing we can do now...

buy ford or chevy or whatever the sjk jcm is selling...and get rid of this commercial.

cindy, everyone, check your couch coushins!

Posted by: dealer | September 6, 2007 9:34 PM | Report abuse

The Heineken girl creeps me out. Looks like a heroin addict.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2007 9:35 PM | Report abuse

I like JCM. But he is getting real close to getting the hammer.

Posted by: jm220 | September 6, 2007 9:35 PM | Report abuse

did gwen get a boob job?

Posted by: dealer | September 6, 2007 9:35 PM | Report abuse

frankly, either one, pulldownclaw--as long as you keep bygo.
"the kingdom" looks interesting, but i'm not sure i can watch jason bateman without giggling. "3:10 to yuma" looks good. who doesn't luv christian bale?
i HATE the heineken girl. totally creepy, altho probably just a typical date night for diddy. someone should lock the king, the wendy's freak in the red wig and the heineken girl in a room and make 'em listen to "this is my country" over and over.

Posted by: Cindy | September 6, 2007 9:38 PM | Report abuse

How much lower can Jerry Jones stoop. Doesn't he have a real job?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2007 9:40 PM | Report abuse

i know it's the cowboys and all, but that commercial with romo was FUNNY. they kinda ruined it with jj, tho.

Posted by: Cindy | September 6, 2007 9:40 PM | Report abuse

cindy, christian bale's little eenyweenie teeth freak me out...

Posted by: dealer | September 6, 2007 9:40 PM | Report abuse

"For all you skins fans in New York City. Red Sky (http://redskynyc.com) is a skins bar this year. Ill will clearly be going back home for the game, but just an fyi...

HAIL!!!!!

Posted by: SeanTay77 | September 5, 2007 01:14 PM"

I think this was the winning suggestion from earlier...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 9:41 PM | Report abuse

The Wendy's freak in the red wig creeps me out too.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2007 9:41 PM | Report abuse

What's up w/ BBM constantly trying to force the ball to Reggie Wayne? It's like there are no other receivers on the field.

Posted by: JustMe | September 6, 2007 9:42 PM | Report abuse

"... In Brooklyn, 200 Fifth (Fifth Ave between Union and Berkeley/Sackett, Park Slope) shows all the games and always has at least a few Skins fans. Food's good, beer's cold.

Posted by: Sharon | September 5, 2007 01:08 PM"

...Also from the "Things to Watch" thread...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Effin sellout Cowpaddies! I hate Pepsi even more now.

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Peyton only has one TD so far? And he's trying to force every throw to Wayne? He's got a lot of work to do!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 9:43 PM | Report abuse

justme, cuz he's extra cheezy

Posted by: dealer | September 6, 2007 9:44 PM | Report abuse

jj has a fabulous new stadium to pay for. did you see the drawings of the new gints stadium? fedex is going to be the dump of the division soon. frankly, stadia only have about a 10-year lifespan (particularly given the teevee advances the last 10 years). the redskins have to start moving in that direction, no?
(aside: what an amazing anomaly arrowhead is. still a great place, except for the untidy fact that the cheeves have never won a title since they moved in. sigh.)

Posted by: Cindy | September 6, 2007 9:44 PM | Report abuse

dealer, do you still hate BBM? Or has that stance softened somewhat in the offseason?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 9:45 PM | Report abuse

dealer, LMGO

Posted by: JustMe | September 6, 2007 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Well I liked the Pepsi ad cause Romo got his arse sacked! Well his stuntman did at least.

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 9:45 PM | Report abuse

extra cheezy 2 minute drill coming up....

Posted by: dealer | September 6, 2007 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Please some Chinese company BUY EFFIN CHEVY and then it won't be OUR coutnry anymore!

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 9:47 PM | Report abuse

who is JCM???

Is it me or is the colts oline blowing up the saints dline?

of course i am banished to kitchen tv which is smALL...

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 6, 2007 9:47 PM | Report abuse

dream is still alive
and this is still our country!

F@#$%^@#*#!S*@#(@#*$!$*:%*:!!!!!

Posted by: dealer | September 6, 2007 9:48 PM | Report abuse

How much lower can Jerry Jones stoop. Doesn't he have a real job?

Posted by: | September 6, 2007 09:40 PM

He parked in the handicapped spot.

Posted by: SMACK | September 6, 2007 9:48 PM | Report abuse

how have i never noticed christian bale's teeth?

Posted by: Cindy | September 6, 2007 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Okay is everyone with me that the Heiny ad is freaky? I mean I realize a chick with a keg coming out of her is possibly the greatest wet dream ever but eek.

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Oh no, Keith Olbermann at halftime. What a bloated egotistical gasbag.

Posted by: Pulldownclaw | September 6, 2007 9:49 PM | Report abuse

jcm=johny motherSJKING cougar watermellancamp

nate, i will always hate bbm

jasno and i agree on one thing and one thing only. that he is a fraud.

Posted by: dealer | September 6, 2007 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Cyn City, is there anything you can do from your powerful position in DC sports media to get things moving on the Skins stadium front?

Would love to see them get going on this, especially with the Nats' new house going like gangbusters down the river from RFK.

Make it so!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Wow, even the Mannings won't watch BBM!!!

Posted by: Cindy | September 6, 2007 9:50 PM | Report abuse

how is BBM a 'fraud' again? please remind me...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Nate and NYC crew

205 fifth is ok...watched many a game there, and many a loss.,...

Its good if u get a posse...but its WAY packed with every type of fan...alos big steelers bar...gag me

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 6, 2007 9:51 PM | Report abuse

cindy, did i ruin it for you? sorry. that's the first thing i notice. ergo he makes a perfect BATman...creepy!

Posted by: dealer | September 6, 2007 9:52 PM | Report abuse

It's not just that his teeth are small, it's how he holds his purty mouth. The set of his jaw, that sort of thing.

And it goes without saying that he will always be American Psycho. Not quite in Tony Perkins career-killer territory, but almost there.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 9:53 PM | Report abuse

I'd luv to, Nate! But I have no powers. I think it'll get going of its own accord around Thanksgiving...particularly if the Redskins are good. Would RFK be the best site for it? They could pull it down after the Nats' place opens. Wait, that would displace DC United.

Posted by: Cindy | September 6, 2007 9:54 PM | Report abuse

i love olberman myself....watch countdown all the time...him on NFL...we'll see....

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 6, 2007 9:54 PM | Report abuse

how is BBM a 'fraud' again? please remind me...


not tonite hon!

Posted by: dealer | September 6, 2007 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Okay, then. You've convinced me on Bale. On to Clive Owen. Please don't take him away from me.

Posted by: Cindy | September 6, 2007 9:56 PM | Report abuse

ohhhhhh Mellencamp....yeah that song has got to go...ca,t believe it lasted into the new season....

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 6, 2007 9:56 PM | Report abuse

An open stadium with grass field... it would be okay with me to let the soccer people borrow it now and again. They don't leave those messy brown areas like the baseball people. And it would mean more usage for the gigantic tax-supported edifice each year.

Maybe in addition to a retractable roof, they could have a retractable upper deck, so the soccer people wouldn't feel so bad about only drawing a few thousand plus the barra brava per match.

As long as it's right next to a freakin' Metro station so you can flingin' flangin' walk from the train to the stadium...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 9:57 PM | Report abuse

I like Olbermann, too, Chris, but he's no Clive Owen.

Posted by: Cindy | September 6, 2007 9:57 PM | Report abuse

LMGO@ CL!!!

i LOVE clive owen for inside man

cindy, are you going to see shoot 'em up? any reviews so far?

Posted by: dealer | September 6, 2007 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Oh yeah Christian Bale's creepy teeth were on full display in creepy American Psycho.

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Illegal touching, what's wrong with that?

Posted by: Merv Da Perv | September 6, 2007 9:59 PM | Report abuse

cyn cindy Bale and Clive are pretty hot and good actors.....dream away...

yo tv crue anyone watching mad men...show is the bomb

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 6, 2007 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Hooray for Clive Owen. Just saw "Inside Man" on the Netflix. Pretty good. It was no "Children of Men," which was amazing. But it was pretty good.

They should have called it "The Man Inside Me," though. Missed opportunity.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 9:59 PM | Report abuse

and count me as an oberman fan too. he is what dennis miller could be (funny) if dennis miller ever got off his high horse

Posted by: dealer | September 6, 2007 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Shouldn't that be intentional grounding because he was in the clutches and there were no elligible receiver in the vicinity?

Posted by: kost52 | September 6, 2007 10:00 PM | Report abuse

But Nate United would need a home while RFK was being cleared out and the new place was going up. It absolutely MUST be by Metro. One thing, for me, is certain: I do think Dan Snyder understands all of this and would be as committed as JJ and the Jets-Gints people to having a real showplace. Doncha think?

Posted by: Cindy | September 6, 2007 10:00 PM | Report abuse

edible undies!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2007 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Not sure about "Shoot 'em Up." I'll probably see that Elizabeth I movie, tho. "Inside Man" was terrific; I agree.

Posted by: Cindy | September 6, 2007 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Ah yes, Cindy, I see.

Don't the Terrapins have a big old stadium right outside DC? Maybe they could loan it to the Uniteds for a season or two.

Or maybe there's a high school stadium which would suffice. Again, it's not like they're drawing 20k a match.

Could they play half their home games in Puerto Rico? Nah, that's ridiculous.

You and I and Mr. Snyder are agreed on all counts, then. Let's get moving on this project.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 10:03 PM | Report abuse

P Diddy and SkinsTE85, thanks for your sympathy about my Bengals-loving son.

I hope that a glorious season by the burgundy and gold will reset his orientation.

Um, you're not born a Bengals fan, are you? You can change that, right?

Right?

Posted by: farstriker | September 6, 2007 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Maryland would work, but ideally United needs a place that is Metro-accessible, too.
The new joint should have a retractable roof. Big-SJK teevees. And cupholders.

Posted by: Cindy | September 6, 2007 10:08 PM | Report abuse

ugh....cop out big time for first worst person in the nfl

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 6, 2007 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the help, guys. This redsky place looks pretty damn cool.

Posted by: NYC | September 6, 2007 10:09 PM | Report abuse

That was no doubt the worst half time show I have ever seen.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2007 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Inside Man - kicked a$$ flick one of Spike's best. Plus oodles of eye candy.

Yes to new stadium at RFK and I'm sorry but please call it RFK - so it could RFK at FedEx like the LAA Angels. Actually eff that the Danny has enough money to have to sell the naming rights. Shoot he'll sell every square inch of ad room and he can give the parking lot naming rights.
I'm parked in FedEx lot, Johnny Rockets lot, Six Flag lot etc. etc.

Let the United play so the stadium gets more usuage.

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Just think though guys, with Snyder's well-known love of money, you won't ge ta new RFK, or JKC stdium, or even a Gibbs stadium.

But you may get the combined Johnny Rocket-Preparation Ouch stadium. :-0

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Nate, United's attendance is near 20K. Why you hatin'?

Posted by: SMACK | September 6, 2007 10:16 PM | Report abuse

That half-time show was dreck.

Oberman's self-hit was gutless and not funny.

Okay, I have decided I loathe the NBC crew. Thank God I can usually watch Fox. It can't be worse, right?

Right?

P.S. Is it just me, or is tonight a special distillation of all the carp they can ladle on top of the game: bad songs, bad intros, bad ads,* bad half-time show? Isn't the whole package especially sucky tonight?

-----

*Or creepy ads--anon, Cindy, and sfskin are right: that Heineken ad is the stuff of nightmares.

Posted by: farstriker | September 6, 2007 10:16 PM | Report abuse

I never thought I would say this but the Colts D looks good.

Posted by: Huh? | September 6, 2007 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Who was worst guy in NFL? I had to turn it off cause parents are coming in. Now I gotta go and put on the show.

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 10:17 PM | Report abuse

I would have slapped the glasses off that kid by now.

Posted by: farstriker | September 6, 2007 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Hey Olberman - I've got that number:

976-SJK!

Posted by: Dik | September 6, 2007 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, SMACK, somewhere I had a figure well under 20k in mind as the United avg att. Good to hear it's higher than that. Really. I'm not hatin'!

Okay, so it's settled, sweet new football/other football stadium on the RFK site, maybe wrapped in a sweet new riverside park, maybe with a redesigned Metro station at Stadium/Armory to make things work even better, with cup holders and slidey roof thing and advertising on every surface.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Cindy, is this ridiculous, or what?

When you threw down the gauntlet lo those many moons ago, did you really think we would be here with a realistic shot at the Penultimatum?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Ha. s'alright Nate, when it comes to United, I defend them like a scientologist. It's just like a weird, couch-jumping reflex.

Even more of us would show up if our cars didn't get jacked up in the $10, unguarded parking lots. But I guess the Nats know something about that. Was that the Nats whose cars kept getting stolen. Eh, sorry, babbling.

Posted by: SMACK | September 6, 2007 10:28 PM | Report abuse

On to the p-

Posted by: farstriker | September 6, 2007 10:29 PM | Report abuse

the p-

Posted by: farstriker | September 6, 2007 10:29 PM | Report abuse

some of these new NBC shows look LAME...

but Heroes soon...oh yeah

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 6, 2007 10:30 PM | Report abuse

the peh-

Posted by: farstriker | September 6, 2007 10:30 PM | Report abuse

By the way, United is on ESPN2 right now, if you've had enough of this commercial-ridden American football lark.

Posted by: SMACK | September 6, 2007 10:30 PM | Report abuse

-nultimatum! **gulp**

Posted by: farstriker | September 6, 2007 10:31 PM | Report abuse

finally catching up... ready to BMGO!

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 6, 2007 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Nicely done farstriker.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 6, 2007 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Underoos

Posted by: Pulldownclaw | September 6, 2007 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Do you think it would be okay to curse at the parents and tell them their children are going to ruin the world?

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 10:34 PM | Report abuse

I hafta say, Nate, that I did believe! All along. I knew it wouldn't just be me, the crickets and inimitable Sallie Mae. *hugs*

Posted by: Cindy | September 6, 2007 10:35 PM | Report abuse

soccer is pansy football. i dont care how many commercials there are.

Posted by: f soccer | September 6, 2007 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Seriously enough with the 13 year old homophobia!

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who missed the sarcasm can surrender their I'm an anonymous idiot card already.

Posted by: SMACK | September 6, 2007 10:36 PM | Report abuse

This Manning guy looks really good.

Posted by: farstriker | September 6, 2007 10:37 PM | Report abuse

To the Pentultimatim AND BEYOND!

Posted by: Dik | September 6, 2007 10:38 PM | Report abuse

I'll add my two cents for the Pendulum.

Also, I know it is late; but, Cindy, is this the first time that a new posting has been debuted due to the wishes of a chatter and not Jasno? If so, Kudos Nate for representing Portland in such a good light.

(On a side note, in the time that it it took me to write that Manning just threw a TD to Wayne. Manning is not human, I'm convinced.)

Hail!

Posted by: Stumptown Chris | September 6, 2007 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who chooses to watch futbol over football can officially turn in your "I am a fag" card right now.

Quit taking my posts away!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2007 10:39 PM | Report abuse

what is TCCL

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2007 10:40 PM | Report abuse

United needs a solid stadium. The onle thing I worry about is that, after RFK goes away, there won't be the right-sized 50,000 seat stadium for world cup quals, int'l friendlies, and the like.
RFK is the perfect stadium for 50,000 passionate fans who live and breathe their sport. Michigan Stadium is impressive for its sheer size, but you're so far away from the other sideline that the people on the other side might be in a different city.
When the stands on the other side of RFK start shaking, wow! 15,000 people waving right in front of you!

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 6, 2007 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Well, despite all the ill will from dealer (dubious) and SMACK (my opponent), BBM seems to be having a pretty good game as my fantasy QB?

I'm not watching, so I'm relying on your oohs and aahs here. And it sounds like you're more impressed with him than with Breeze.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Absolutely, SF. Do it.
Ya know, I think we're gonna hit 88888 well ahead of kickoff. We'd know for sure when the big moment was coming if MV Dame weren't out doing some of the "No's" from the earlier list. In fact, if we hit 88888 early, we could all add a no or two back to our weekend. Or we could shoot for 100k. :)

Posted by: Cindy | September 6, 2007 10:41 PM | Report abuse

TCCL =
Tom
Cruise
Couch
Leap

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 6, 2007 10:44 PM | Report abuse

I've thrown up posts before when asked...No one has gotten a link or a mention before, though....The Colts figured everyting out at halftime, didn't they?

Posted by: Cindy | September 6, 2007 10:45 PM | Report abuse

thanks

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2007 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Stumptown Chris, looking fwd to meeting you on Sunday morning if you can make it to the On Deck, dude. We promise to be a happy and animated bunch, if nothing else.

Cindy, again, I am embarrassed by the honor of my hyperlinked name immortalised in the thread header. (sheds a tear)

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 10:47 PM | Report abuse

The best thing about RFK is rarely noted: it lines up perfectly with DC's other major public places. It's on the grand east-west axis that extends from the Lincoln Memorial, through the Mall, and onward to RFK.

Years ago CBS would open its telecasts from RFK (back when the NFC was on channel 9, and for god's sakes it was WTOP, not WUSA), with an aerial shot looking eastwards and zooming in (helicopter, I guess) towards the stadium.

Made the game feel connected to deep historical rhythms and foundations.

Posted by: farstriker | September 6, 2007 10:47 PM | Report abuse

And good points about RFK, Cload. A shared stadium wouldn't be very good for United, would it?

Posted by: Cindy | September 6, 2007 10:47 PM | Report abuse

JLC's story is up.

Does anyone find it annoying that he has to try to stir the pot 3 days before the opening game. Why the need to bring up the fact that anonymous defensive players think Portis has a different set of rules and that teammates bristle in private about him not practicing this offseason.

I'm starting to get fired up for Sunday and Debbie Downer has to go write a column..oops, an article, and bring me down.

Posted by: TheGuru10 | September 6, 2007 10:48 PM | Report abuse

K-Town is NOT lookin' good right now.

That Corner didn't even make a move. TOAST!

Posted by: Dik | September 6, 2007 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Apparently doing a striptease in front of parents is inappropriate. Who knew?

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 10:50 PM | Report abuse

How wierd is that watching a game that early on a Sunday, Nate? I guess it would have to bloody mary's to start.....

Altho trying to stay up for a Monday nighter out here in the east can be rough for us with jobs and kiddies....

Posted by: Pulldownclaw | September 6, 2007 10:52 PM | Report abuse

No, an MLS soccer stadium can't be more than 25,000 seats. It'd be nice to see something like that around here.

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 6, 2007 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Meanwhile, the Dan can sell a 90,000 seat stadium. If they fixed parking, they could probably go even higher.

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 6, 2007 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Eyelids getting heavy...must close orbs...shiraz a mistake....game out of saints' reach....

Posted by: Cindy | September 6, 2007 10:55 PM | Report abuse

And any NFL stadium would be built with capturing a Super Bowl in mind (dome at least).

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 6, 2007 10:55 PM | Report abuse

nate, i'd pick big cheezy too if i couldn't get LT...but he still a fraud.

Posted by: dealer | September 6, 2007 10:57 PM | Report abuse

both the saints and my 2 fantasy teams taking beating tonight....

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 6, 2007 10:57 PM | Report abuse

Portis is the franchise. I don't get why people don't get this. In 2005, he put the entire team on his back and got them to the playoffs. Without CP, there would have been no playoff run.

Last year, he got hurt in an utterly meaningless game. Pre-season games are pointless, masturbatory exercises designed by the owners to hold gullible fans hostage for a sub-par product. It is a ludicrous sham, and I also don't get why there is no fan backlash for it. After Portis got hurt, the season was over. Kaput. Finished.

This year, there is no way the team should have in good conscience let him play until the games matter. No way.

Oh, and there's a really good reason why Portis's production in Denver is greater than his production in Washington. The 'Skins have a mediocre offense, the Broncos do not.

His final statement in JLaC's article is the money quote. This team, coaching staff, and front office should rightfully be blown up if they don't win this season.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 6, 2007 10:57 PM | Report abuse

colts are making nola look like a jv team

Posted by: dealer | September 6, 2007 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Cyn -- Shiraz? Let me look at that list of 'Nos' again....

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 6, 2007 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Cyn - Shiraz often a mistake... unless you have lamb. lol.

Posted by: Dik | September 6, 2007 10:59 PM | Report abuse

DC united game actually on now...

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 6, 2007 11:02 PM | Report abuse

hey diddy, looks like you're gonna get $100 back from steve jobs...http://www.apple.com

Posted by: dealer | September 6, 2007 11:03 PM | Report abuse

shiraz good. zinfandel good too -- I opened it for cooking, but it went down well.
Tell me if it affects the typing...

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 6, 2007 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Man - Jason David may get Cut tonight! wow!

Posted by: Dik | September 6, 2007 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Is Peyton Manning human? Yikes.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 6, 2007 11:04 PM | Report abuse

This game is over.

Posted by: Captain Obvious | September 6, 2007 11:06 PM | Report abuse

And that $100 apple thing is SJK -- Steve has to put my stock price first!

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 6, 2007 11:06 PM | Report abuse

If you get a chance to try the Parson's Flat Shiraz/Cab, I would highly recommend it. It's among the best wines I've had the pleasure of trying.

Last night, I had a delicious Brunello (2001 montalcino casanova, I believe).

Posted by: P Diddy | September 6, 2007 11:08 PM | Report abuse

I agree cload. I think the rebate is stupid. You waited in line, you got to "experience" the iPhone, and you got to show it off to all your friends ahead of everyone. I don't see why anyone is entitled to this rebate. I really hate dumb people.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 6, 2007 11:10 PM | Report abuse

wow...Janso really has beef with Portis huh...


That article was a perfect example of using certain facts/stats out of context while leaving out stat/facts that don't back up the point your making...

As P diddy pointed out the Denver/Skins comparisons are not valid..

I am sorry Cyn and Janso but this article, couple with the constant them of the Portis blog entries ring mad hollow...we'll see when the games count I guess....If Janso is proven right I will tip my hat...if Portis has a good year i will laugh my azz off

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 6, 2007 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Did someone say Shiraz?

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 11:12 PM | Report abuse

$45 a bottle
nice

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2007 11:13 PM | Report abuse

Portis will go as far as the offensive line will allow.

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Jasno is reporting like the Ravens homer he is... lol

On the current game - with that kinda time and bad secondary BRUNELL could be throwing like Manning right now.. hahaha.

Posted by: Dik | September 6, 2007 11:17 PM | Report abuse

United up 2-0

Posted by: RBD202 | September 6, 2007 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Dik,

Not to be argumentative, but Brunell could never ever ever throw like Manning.

Never.

Ever.

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 11:19 PM | Report abuse

Alright peeploggers I'm done and I'm out. I'll be back tomorrow on our way to the penultimatum.

Posted by: sfskin | September 6, 2007 11:19 PM | Report abuse

"Jasno will join you shortly...
By Cindy Boren | September 6, 2007; 2:20 PM ET"

Gives whole new meaning to the term "shortly", eh?

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 11:20 PM | Report abuse

It's called hyperbole.

But remember Dallas??!! Santana does.

Posted by: Dik | September 6, 2007 11:20 PM | Report abuse

I'm not a wine snob, so had to look it up..."Brunello di Montalcino" is the varietal, Casanova di Neri is the winemaker.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brunello_di_Montalcino

Posted by: P Diddy | September 6, 2007 11:20 PM | Report abuse

hyperbole?

now you tell me.

Yes, I remember Dallas. And Jacksonville at home.

Other than those anamolies....??

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Only four players on the colts team have even played for another team in the league...
keep trading those draft picks danny boy

Posted by: Dante | September 6, 2007 11:22 PM | Report abuse

Um, sfskin, I am a parent and I don't think a striptease during parents' night would be inappropriate.

Uh, wait, I guess my wife would be there too.

Yeah, yeah, that would be inappropriate and off-putting.

Posted by: farstriker | September 6, 2007 11:22 PM | Report abuse

Troy Perkins with the score!

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 6, 2007 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Isn't the Brunell thing a dead horse at this point? Dude is at the end of his career, a demoted #3 QB behind "the future" and a journeyman who hasn't started a game since Spielberg was making good flicks. He has handled it all with dignity, grace, and class. Brunell is a class act, and an athlete defeated by the ravages of old age. Can we let it go now?

Posted by: P Diddy | September 6, 2007 11:23 PM | Report abuse

That was incredible.

Posted by: SMACK | September 6, 2007 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Does anybody know if Lavar will be all right and ready to go by game time?

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Just a gratuitous HAIL.

Hail to the blog.

Hail to the Redskins!

HAIL VICTORY!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 11:24 PM | Report abuse

well, it blows your 'never' contention.

but I was making the point that Colts line & NO secondary is giving Manning serious help.

Posted by: Dik | September 6, 2007 11:25 PM | Report abuse

I gotta say, I love the down and distance graphic NBC is using this season...

Posted by: P Diddy | September 6, 2007 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Striptease perhaps not
welcome at school night Up Here
lap dance is preferred

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 6, 2007 11:27 PM | Report abuse

Diddy, I'm afraid after what we saw the past two seasons, the Brunell thing won't be a dead issue until he is off the roster. As long as he's on the sideline and wearing our uniform, there's a chance he'll appear in a game.

Again, I wish him all the best, but I hope the next thing we hear about Mark Brunell is his retirement announcement this coming offseason.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 11:28 PM | Report abuse

I wasn't making a point FOR Brunell - I was making a joke ABOUT Brunell...

then I got some flak & had to counter it.

nyaaa.

Posted by: Dik | September 6, 2007 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Okay, that was the best promo of the night--the shattered dreams of the Cowboys and Giants last season.

All in the name of this week's Sunday night game.

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!

Posted by: farstriker | September 6, 2007 11:28 PM | Report abuse

We agree to disagree Dik. You say it and you believe it. I say those few passes are the exception to the rule.

Mostly I agree with P Diddy's eulogy. Brunell has handled everything with class and we should all wish him well as he fades into the sunset.

Well said, P Did. Good on ya.

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 11:28 PM | Report abuse

IF jasno has something against CP. jasno is an idiot. i don't think he does. i don't understand why jasno took the route he did with this article.

and CP said it best "If I'm not doing what I'm supposed to do, then there's going to be a lot of things that change around here."

true that! i don't even think jasno will be around if that happens.

cuz the golden goose/cash cow will be dead for a while. if this turns out to be a bust of a season.

i'll say it too now, for the first time that the negativity is getting on my nerves. and it's not like jason is going out on a limb here. he's part of a huge local media herd that's just taken arms against the team this year. relentless negative press by 980 and jason.

we been watching this game and team for a long time. we're pretty smart people up here. we see something special with this team that we haven't seen in like 10 years.
so it's pretty insulting when these so called "experts" and talking heads and "insiders" are all being sooooooooo negative WITHOUT much support other than the same old rhetoric "FO, same old".

and then when CP does do well jason will be the first one to say "like i had said in the preseason that the running game was nothing to worry about" and yet he writes this article with bogus comparisons. when a single snap hasn't been played yet.

Posted by: dealer | September 6, 2007 11:29 PM | Report abuse

This ballgame tonight, she is over, yes?

Colts look like champions to you guys?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 11:29 PM | Report abuse

And the crowd who bet the under starts to sweat it a little.

Posted by: SMACK | September 6, 2007 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Uh - point of contention Wil - you said 'Never'. You were wrong.

And I wasn't saying he ever could either. I was saying YOU could throw the ball the way this current game is going.

And yes, P Did - very well put.

Geez - try to make a redskin angled point on this blog.. LMGO

Posted by: Dik | September 6, 2007 11:30 PM | Report abuse

I don't know, Nate--the Colts are only up 31. Let's not be hasty. There are 55 seconds to go.

Posted by: farstriker | September 6, 2007 11:31 PM | Report abuse

If Brunell has to play in a game this season, the team is doomed and we might as well all pick our second-favorite team to root for the rest of the way. Not sure it would be any different for any other team's #3 (or #2 for that matter).

Posted by: P Diddy | September 6, 2007 11:32 PM | Report abuse

awwrite. Have a good night everyone.

All Hail!

Posted by: Dik | September 6, 2007 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Everybody re-thinking the Saints glorious predictions, those who made them?

Or are they better than they looked tonight?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 11:33 PM | Report abuse

It's a long season Nate, my main man. Too soon to crown the Colts or bury the Saints.

I'm just Shirazin'....

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Aye, it's a long season, aye.

David Patten sighting?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 11:35 PM | Report abuse

farstriker, good to see ya still bloggin' mate, i know it's late where you are.

P Did, you gave up a for sure mambo to blog? What am I missing?

Hail, Dik.

Time for a refill.

Blog amongst yerselves.

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Good night everyone...way to blog your guts out today!

Posted by: P Diddy | September 6, 2007 11:36 PM | Report abuse

as a matter of fact yes, nate. he had a catch for a first down. i think it was for 6 yards in traffic.

Posted by: dealer | September 6, 2007 11:36 PM | Report abuse

We gotta crush it up here tomorrow (Friday). We can't let the Penultimatum linger until Sunday morning.

Let's get it done.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Drew Brees won the Brunell award
26/39 for 159 yds 4.1 avg 0 TD 2 INTs

Posted by: RBD202 | September 6, 2007 11:39 PM | Report abuse

I think the Saints will look a lot better when they're playing NFC teams.

That's a lot like what a Colts - Saints SB would have looked like last year though.

Who: Manning
Why: 29-9

Posted by: SMACK | September 6, 2007 11:39 PM | Report abuse

wow this game was a dud

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 6, 2007 11:40 PM | Report abuse

'Stay Up Late' by the Talking Heads, Willie-baby.

We be blogging!

Posted by: farstriker | September 6, 2007 11:41 PM | Report abuse

The unsaid thing is that the three girls I'm seeing now are not long-term potential and I just want to cut them off before feelings get hurt.

As my best friend said, "[my ex] is stupid and you should forget her. These other girls are distractions and you can't afford to be distracted right now. You need a woman who has her stuff together. Until then, focus on your business."

That's the best advice I could have received.

Of course he said it in the middle of our bar crawl last night, so what does he know. I tend to remember drunken advice better than sober advice...

Posted by: P Diddy | September 6, 2007 11:41 PM | Report abuse

SMACK, I must confess I was hoping for a few more fantasy points from BBM tonight. He's my bell cow.

chris Larry, this game tonight was but a taste, a tease, for what awaits us at 1pm Eastern Sunday.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 6, 2007 11:42 PM | Report abuse

So glad I took Deb out to dinner instead of hangin' out with a pizza and this game.

I have to say, I'm not really an NFL fan. If the Skins aren't playin', I'd rather read a book, choke a chicken, or blog my guts out.

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Peyton needs to drop in a few product placements whenever he gives interviews. I'm not sure what to think of him when he isn't mentioning DirecTV or Mastercard or whatever else he does endorsements for.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 6, 2007 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Not one to complain too much but Jasno's tired columns/articles and lack of blog posts in the opening week cry for a beat change. Hope he can get that soccer thing that he is longing for and trying to get apparently.

Posted by: cdubb | September 6, 2007 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Memo to PETA:

No animals were harmed during the posting of my last post.

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 11:43 PM | Report abuse

john madden said something interesting tonight: "if your first contact is legal and then becomes illegal then it's legal."

that SHOULD be senator craig's defense.

Posted by: dealer | September 6, 2007 11:45 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of drunken bar crawls, where's the bathroom?

Posted by: Larry Craig | September 6, 2007 11:45 PM | Report abuse

Not sure what I'm missing in the Portis article... I didn't get a real negative vibe; clearly there are questions for a man that hasn't been hit since last November.
We have a pretty good RB tandem, I think it gives us a chance to run in every game. Portis really is an elite athlete. If he's healthy and motivated, watch out!

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 6, 2007 11:46 PM | Report abuse

Is it just me, or does Jasno take a helluva beating in here?

Bloggers seem to want the kind of Pollyanna rose colored glasses reporting that we wouldn't accept in any other venue.

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 11:47 PM | Report abuse

cload, it was the whole denver and what cp has done here and how he's been average thing that irked me. it was unnecessary. usually 48 hours before the new season there's not such negativity. but hey! if jason thinks that being czaben like is helping his career then i think he's mistaken.

Posted by: dealer | September 6, 2007 11:50 PM | Report abuse

ok, farstriker, yer on, bloggin' wise.

i tried to set an all time record today with 30+ posts in just a bit over an hour.

Deb's daughter is in from outta town and they're yappin' so I have a few more minutes or maybe a couple more hours.

I'll do my best, which admittedly won't add anything to the discussion, but will certainly add to the total.

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 11:51 PM | Report abuse

My six cents on Portis - enough already all of you media people! If you have nothing better to write about than Portis not practicing or playing in preseason then please just make something else up!

John Riggins said tonight on Redskins Report that while he was playing he did everything he could to get out of practice, etc. Riggo said practice was really NOT NECESSARY for a RB because it did not duplicate what would happen to the player in a game. He said many of the stellar RBs back in the day did not practice during training camp. Riggins has no problem whatsoever with Portis taking it easy.

So there - an opinion from one of the Redskins greats....which weighs more than the journalists who have never played the game.

Hope Portis has a 200 yard game Sunday (which will not happen since Betts will play most of the snaps)and all the whiners will have to eat their words.

Posted by: Lisa | September 6, 2007 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Is it just me or is Diddy almost as painful as a root canal?
Does anyone care about your lack of play? Why don't you drop your salary next time - never miss a chance to show off your new beemer or your fancy electronics or your fancy wine. You're not the only one who has a little scratch and has a good job. Are you that insecure?

Posted by: Me | September 6, 2007 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Yes, those were mean facts Jasno included. Only include nice facts, Jasno!

Posted by: farstriker | September 6, 2007 11:52 PM | Report abuse

The question I keep asking myself is "why the SJK do i care about this stupid blog?"

And the answer is one of two possibilities:

1. I do it out of respect for my main man Nate.

2. I forget what the other one is.

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Lisa!!!

Welcome to the Late Night Edition of The Blog.

And you make great points.

Want an answer?

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 11:54 PM | Report abuse

This scratch and good job, Me--they sound interesting. Details, please.

Posted by: farstriker | September 6, 2007 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Nate, please provide Lisa with an answer.

Redskins Nation thanks you.

Posted by: Willie | September 6, 2007 11:57 PM | Report abuse

You know, this is a pretty good blog, but it's missing something . . .

Posted by: farstriker | September 7, 2007 12:00 AM | Report abuse

And I think I know what it is . . .

Posted by: farstriker | September 7, 2007 12:01 AM | Report abuse

Wait for it . . .

Posted by: farstriker | September 7, 2007 12:01 AM | Report abuse

Fair enough on the CP stats, but we've had a less-than-ordinary offense since he's been here, so for him to maintain 'average' numbers is something I consider surprising.
You really have to parse an article with the title "XXXX is healthy, confident, upbeat" to uncover the negative slant...

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 7, 2007 12:02 AM | Report abuse

I

Posted by: farstriker | September 7, 2007 12:02 AM | Report abuse

Do tell farstriker

Posted by: Willie | September 7, 2007 12:02 AM | Report abuse

Player personnel manager for a NFL team with extended lunch breaks for racquet sports

Posted by: Me | September 7, 2007 12:03 AM | Report abuse

AM

Posted by: farstriker | September 7, 2007 12:03 AM | Report abuse

"Disdain for training in general"

Makes Portis sound like he is a fat lazy player like Lendale White or something. What players are privately bristling about him? The guys from the U bust their ass in the offseason and it obviously shows in their play. Witness Reggie Wayne tonight. I hope CP jams this negative stuff down people's throats with 1500 and 12 touches this year.

Posted by: cdubb | September 7, 2007 12:03 AM | Report abuse

KIROK!!!!!

Posted by: farstriker | September 7, 2007 12:05 AM | Report abuse

Oh, and farstriker has erased the only word he's written of this, his latest novel!

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 7, 2007 12:06 AM | Report abuse

Hoo-boy, don't tell me that an old-school Star Trek shout-out doesn't feel real good right now!

Captain Kirk, bringing it STRONG!

Posted by: farstriker | September 7, 2007 12:07 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Willie | September 7, 2007 12:08 AM | Report abuse

It looks of the D'Urbervilles all over again.

Posted by: farstriker | September 7, 2007 12:09 AM | Report abuse

2-2 United/Chivas
2nd deflected goal
brutal

Posted by: RBD202 | September 7, 2007 12:09 AM | Report abuse

Is it just me or is Diddy almost as painful as a root canal?
Does anyone care about your lack of play? Why don't you drop your salary next time - never miss a chance to show off your new beemer or your fancy electronics or your fancy wine. You're not the only one who has a little scratch and has a good job. Are you that insecure?

Posted by: Me | September 6, 2007 11:52 PM


GREAT POST! the shameless self promotion is sad, pitiful and tiresome. Whether an once of it is true or not, doesn't even matter. The ramblings of a troubled insecure clown. Newsflash, most women are turned off by individuals who constantly self promote and boast endlessly about materialistic things. no wonder these women have moved on.

Posted by: Just trying to inform | September 7, 2007 12:10 AM | Report abuse

Godfrey Daniels, TESS of the D'Urbervilles.

Dadgum italics codes always mess me up.

Posted by: farstriker | September 7, 2007 12:11 AM | Report abuse

Uh oh, looks like Diddy's therapist is posting again.

That's a no-no.

Posted by: farstriker | September 7, 2007 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Well, that's true to form; he's started six of his last nine books with a pronoun....

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 7, 2007 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Lisa ty fo riggo stuff. i have always said portis is the new riggo...dude used to check himself into hospital to avoid pactice....

My issue is the way Janso used facts/stats...he proved just how subjective those could be...Did he mention Portis is single season rushing record holder for skins, or that we didnt employ the right blocking scheme his first year, or that hen was asked to get tough yards he wasnt in Denver, or that Denver has been BETTER and more rounded offense then we have had, did he metion that Portis scored a TD in the opener last year he rushed back for, did he compare his light pren season to other backs, did he mention that he was single handidly responsible for our 1 playoff run in 10 years....

We see on the blog how he hammers away at this point and then we get print articles that cherry pick info and unnamed sources to make the axe he has grinded on the blog....

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 7, 2007 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Amen, cL, amen again and again bro...

Still Shirazin'.

Posted by: Willie | September 7, 2007 12:19 AM | Report abuse

yikes p diddy taking a beating here late night....i happen to enjoy the viscount, hot air and all........but I obviously enjoy someone who spouts hot air...

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 7, 2007 12:20 AM | Report abuse

i have a feeling i would enjoy partying with willie...

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 7, 2007 12:23 AM | Report abuse

Well, I disagree, Chris Larry, but I gotta say that was a well-crafted post.

My main reaction is that Jasno posted some basic facts. Most of your disputation of those facts consists of interpretations which could be argued with: I mean, I'm not saying you're wrong that we used the "wrong" blocking scheme his first year, but that's not really a naked, unassailable fact in the way that total rushing yards is.

So well argued, but count me unpersuaded--and I hasten to add that I HEART CP.

Posted by: farstriker | September 7, 2007 12:24 AM | Report abuse

I tried to turn the anti-Diddy hostility aside with a light touch, but I may need to get a brickbat or two. Words like "you suck" and "go away" and "so are you!"

Posted by: farstriker | September 7, 2007 12:27 AM | Report abuse

And with that, me laddies, I retire to my slumbers.

Willie, CL, cload, angry guys, and the rest: a blessed bloggy evening. The penultimatum is in sight.

Posted by: farstriker | September 7, 2007 12:31 AM | Report abuse

fairstriker would you not agree that facts/stats are actually subjected and their value really more determined by context?

By failing to mention that while CP's numbers werent what they were in Denver one season did register as best ever in Skins history....so lacking context


He insinuates that Portis rushed back in game 1 last season and was worthless...yet he scored a big TD in that game and if the defense could have stopped someone in that game, we win and Portis and 40 yrds/TD is mad gutsy considering the seperated shoulder...


He mentions Denver's prowess at rushing but in an offhand way...YET...that is a huge context to talking about compare/contrast stats from those two yards...

In Denver CP shared carries with guys who ran cleanup and did short yardage and thus CP was fresh to bust off the stat popping big runs....here historically CP has been asked to grind clock and pick up short yardage which is not good for stats...


I am just saying its easy to pick and choose facts and fail to give context to make a point you have before interpreeting the data..

Wow is my nerdness manifesting...

Sorry

F cowboy...weed rulz...

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 7, 2007 12:32 AM | Report abuse

Ah, no worries. It does no harm to me. The anonymity of the Internets and all. I like this blog because the regulars tend to bring their personal lives to it, and in that way it really is a community of folks who can kibitz and BS just like they do in person, be it at a bar or a backyard BBQ or whatever. Who cares if we're talking about giving babies a bath (the poop in the bathtub convo cracked me up...never once would have thought that would ever have been an issue) or jetting off to Paris? We're all having fun and distracting ourselves from the otherwise banal parts of our lives.

Besides, I'm way too old to be emotionally invested in a professional sports team. (I say this as I eagerly await delivery of my Cooley jersey :-) )

Number one rule of the Internets: Don't like something, keep scrolling down...

Posted by: P Diddy | September 7, 2007 12:34 AM | Report abuse

Okay, that's a wrap. He's gone. Turn off the blog simulation.

Cue the dream simulator. Remember, tonight's nightmare night--pull the Dallas tape.

Hey, I said turn off the

Posted by: The simulation team | September 7, 2007 12:35 AM | Report abuse

word piddy, i concur...

wow i should you the preview option...it doesnt help my points when i have weird word misspellings and what not...

ie "subject" when i mean "subjective"

getting tired...

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 7, 2007 12:37 AM | Report abuse

Chris Larry, if you think weed rulz, then you and i would burn down the town.

And on that happy note, I bid all bloggers a fine night and a hopeful tomorrow.

I leave knowing I did my part for Nate and Cindy.

Posted by: Willie | September 7, 2007 12:38 AM | Report abuse

I don't see as much of a negative bias from Jasno as a critical bias. Everyone always has biases. Jasno is biased toward a belief that the current FO organization and priorities are not likely to be successful.
He might be correct, but there are only 32 examples to go from, and 31 of them "fail" every year. That makes it pretty hard to figure out that there's "only one way to build a team".

Posted by: cload and daggar | September 7, 2007 12:43 AM | Report abuse

Cload I basically agree...I dont think its personal or Janso is debbie downer...but I do think he sometimes fixes the facts to his predetermined opinion

And hey the skins under snyder have sucked and have been idiots....so he is more right than wrong...but I love to argue/debate/fight and I sometimes feel like Janso is wrong with his anylasis, this CP stuff being an example...but thats why sports is great b/c we can test these theories out come sunday...

Posted by: chris larry | September 7, 2007 12:47 AM | Report abuse

wow! lisa and me on the same page! watchOUT!

14-2!!!! here we come!

Posted by: dealer | September 7, 2007 12:53 AM | Report abuse

In order to evaluate the 'Skins FO objectively, you'd need to establish a consistent set of criteria for all teams and then grade all of the teams on that criteria. Saying you have to "build through the draft" is kind of like saying that there's only one way to get from SF to DC. Comparing organizations without that objective criteria is nonsense. To date, I haven't seen anyone come up with that criteria.

To me, the only criteria that matters is wins, losses, playoff appearances, and championships. Results.

The 'Skins have lousy, pathetic, anemic results since the end of St. Joe Part 1. I don't think there's any debating that. I also don't think anyone feels that more badly than "Mr." Snyder. But it also doesn't appear that he knows what to do about it, and that's what should be troubling for all 'Skins fans.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 7, 2007 12:54 AM | Report abuse

nate and cindy
sound like
mork and mindy

Posted by: dealer | September 7, 2007 12:55 AM | Report abuse

Wow, great work up here, gang. Except the anonymous P Diddy bashing, which is tiresome and pointless.

Penultimatum!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 1:07 AM | Report abuse

Willie, you and Stumped make me so proud. I feel like I kind of roped you guys a little more into the blog than maybe you were originally inclined to be... and you've become stalwarts!

Yes, chris Larry would love to party with Willie. That would be a glorious shabingus, and a sight to behold.

Ah, the blog. The silly, wonderful blog.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 1:12 AM | Report abuse

dealer, Diddy, you guys still around?? What's happening?

ANybody else up here?

I'm kind of bouncing in and out but will try to get a few more comments towards "five eights" before heading bedward...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 1:14 AM | Report abuse

I saw a cricket in the basement a few minutes ago... an omen, methinks.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 1:16 AM | Report abuse

Still here, debating whether to go out tonight or not.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 7, 2007 1:17 AM | Report abuse

21-7. You heard me call it right here. You know, I even wanna say 21-6 but I'm not going to do it, I don't want to be mean. I'm just callin it real, ya'll can come up with your own interpretation Sunday evening. Don't forget who told you...

Posted by: Soupy | September 7, 2007 1:28 AM | Report abuse

Soupy, who is going to win the Eagles/'Skins game the week after?

Posted by: P Diddy | September 7, 2007 1:37 AM | Report abuse

nearly 700 posts on when Jasno's next post will be. Amazing.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 7, 2007 1:45 AM | Report abuse

Careful bangkokben, Jasno will be here shortly.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 7, 2007 1:51 AM | Report abuse

Definitely BOGO tonight, bangkokben.

You gonna chip in your buck-oh-five?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 1:56 AM | Report abuse

P Diddy,

He may be here before my page refreshes.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 7, 2007 1:56 AM | Report abuse

Viscount, I see you debating whether to go out tonight and wonder, huh? Then I remember we're straddling two time zones: blog time and Pacific time.

Have one for me.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 1:58 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, I blame you Nate.

Bankok take it home....

Posted by: Stumped | September 7, 2007 1:59 AM | Report abuse

Who knew all I had to do was ask nicely and, voila!, Cindy would drop a new post? I feel like king of the dorks, with that kind of treatment.

They must have a good laugh in the newsroom when they see how we BOGO up here. I sure hope so.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 2:00 AM | Report abuse

It would be interesting to see their numbers on unique users for this blog...

Posted by: P Diddy | September 7, 2007 2:03 AM | Report abuse

Definitely my fault, Stumped!

I think MV Dame should get a grant to take some time off and do some deep analytics of the blog. Not just quantity and frequency of comments per user, which would be kid stuff given enough time. He could come up with some really swell metrics for relevance, coherence, and humor. Would love to see that kind of rich analysis. There are grants for this kind of thing, right?

Again, Deputy Dork here, doing my thing.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 2:03 AM | Report abuse

Still feeling a little bit fragile from last night. Dragged my way through the entire first half of tonight's game and then finally had to come home to sit on the couch. My buds are going strong though, or so say the text messages flying around.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 7, 2007 2:05 AM | Report abuse

Viscount, I fear we would turn out to be a unique user community of, say, a dozen. Nine regulars, two haters, and one dude who swings both ways.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 2:05 AM | Report abuse

I'll donate the beer.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 7, 2007 2:07 AM | Report abuse

The problem you have, or a problem anyway, is proximity.

What little I can remember of your setup through the fog, you're kind of right there in the heart of Belltown, with all the nearby amenities and temptations, correct?

You could really do yourself a favor by moving over to Bellevue. No temptations there, I would guess.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 2:07 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, that would be my theory as well.

The blog generates a ton of traffic, but does it translate into ad dollars for the WashPo? Very curious about that...

Posted by: P Diddy | September 7, 2007 2:08 AM | Report abuse

Nate,
Manning really hung up some numbers for you in FF.

Posted by: Stumped | September 7, 2007 2:09 AM | Report abuse

There are LOTS of cute girls in Bellevue. They're your typical Jetta-driving, scarf-wearing, ex sorority girl types. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

Belltown is fun, I really like it here, homeless folks and all. And, yeah, there are lots of temptations. Including a bar in my building, a scant 12 steps from my front door. Halfway there, I'm confessing all my sins in the mailroom.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 7, 2007 2:10 AM | Report abuse

Hold up, isn't Boren Avenue an important diagonal in Seattle? Yes, a quick check of my trusty google map indicates that Boren is the name of that street which was an important artery for us when we lived up there.

How about me, just now connecting those dots? Boren... Boren... it's all making sense now!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 2:10 AM | Report abuse

Boren is a critical street in Seattle's transportation grid, yes. You can't escape her. She's everywhere.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 7, 2007 2:12 AM | Report abuse

Stumped, I worry about the rest of the weekend. With Manning's game behind us, I've fired the best arrow in my quiver. So now I have to trust the rest of my squad to hold that early lead against most of SMACK's squad. We shall see... it is fun, especially having the league be an extension of the blog, I must admit.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 2:12 AM | Report abuse

Cindy said something about our having been the #1 blog on the WaPo site last Saturday, and #2 Sunday and Monday to the dumb religion thing (silly!), but I forgot to ask her if that's a measure of unique users, page views, comments, a combination of those, or some other criteria (like being really funny, especially good looking, or super smart).

Wow, supremo dork territory. This is good.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 2:14 AM | Report abuse

How close are we to the Penultimatum?

Posted by: P Diddy | September 7, 2007 2:15 AM | Report abuse

Senator Craig's supporters are calling for a boycott of the Minneapolis airport.

Huh?

Would this be like George Michael or Hugh Grant calling for a boycott of public parks?

Posted by: P Diddy | September 7, 2007 2:17 AM | Report abuse

help needed -Fast!
can anyone attest to the reliability of the Yahoo!/NFL.com internet broadcasts of NFL games? i am about to blindly plunk down 280$ and was wondering if anyone could vouch for this . . . uh . . . product

Posted by: Skins In Sichuan | September 7, 2007 2:17 AM | Report abuse

Ah yes, now I remember -- we lived near 23rd and Jackson, in the Central District, and one of my favourite things was coming over that hill where Boren turns into Rainier, and seeing the namesake mountain straight ahead of you.

The breathtaking views are not quite as easy to come by here in Portland as in Seattle, at least not where I spend most of my time, but I do love these hilly cities with their busy waterways and mountains off in the distance.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 2:18 AM | Report abuse

Wow, we really need a new post. Scrolling down to the bottom of this blog on a phone is a pain in the neck (and index finger)...

Posted by: P Diddy | September 7, 2007 2:18 AM | Report abuse

Sichuan, if you have a fast enough connection, it should work well enough. I bought a weekly pass while I was in Barcelona last winter, but it turned out to be moot as my Slingbox was perfectly fine. The quality is good enough.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 7, 2007 2:19 AM | Report abuse

86,966 at 9:29 Eastern, I would guess we blew right past 87k and are somewhere in the vicinity of 87,300 right now.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 2:20 AM | Report abuse

I thought Portland was gorgeous, personally. A very tiny city that is more like a village to me than a real metropolis, but quaint and overly nice in that uniquely Pacific Northwest way. Too bad they let people smoke in bars :-)

Posted by: P Diddy | September 7, 2007 2:20 AM | Report abuse

Hopefully Jasno cues up a TCCL post to help us drive to 700 tomorrow. If we can do that, then we can surely get another 900 or so leading up to kickoff.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 7, 2007 2:21 AM | Report abuse

Wow, Sichuan in the house!

Maybe some of the other Pacific Rim dudes can weigh in with internet broadcast feedback as well.

bangkokben?

Paps in Manila?

kost52?

And I know there are more of you out there...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 2:23 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: P Diddy | September 7, 2007 2:23 AM | Report abuse

713 posts on this thread. Wow.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 7, 2007 2:25 AM | Report abuse

I would love a TCCL post tomorrow, Diddy. I would love to see some of the same joie de blog that was evinced after things got really rolling up here, by the middle of the last season.

Sadly, I think a lot of the joy has gone out of the blog for Jasno. The grind of this beat has really taken its toll, from what I can ascertain. I wish that weren't the case, but that's how it looks from where I'm sitting.

And I'm not saying I agree with anybody who takes issue with his criticism of the Skins, criticism which by and large is spot on AND utterly justified by the middling returns we've had as fans during the Snyder era.

I'm just saying that the strain is showing, and we're not quite getting the blog love we grew accustomed to once upon a time.

Maybe it's like Messrs. Lennon and McCartney sang, that the love you take is equal to the love you make. So how bout a little love for Jason La Canfora?

Thanks a million, Jason!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 2:29 AM | Report abuse

Agree, Nate. Jasno and Cindy have been awesome. Hopefully Jasno Part 2 will also post here from time to time.

Will someone call Cindy and wake her up so that she can create a new blog entry for us?

:-)

Posted by: P Diddy | September 7, 2007 2:31 AM | Report abuse

Gotta to pick up the kids from school, Nate, than off to Chian Rai for the weekend. Should be perfectly exhausted by the time kick-off hits midnight Monday.

Will pick up the slack before kick-off.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 7, 2007 2:35 AM | Report abuse

Schlereth is on Guiding Light? First Riggo goes soap, and now Schlereth? I honestly don't know what to make of this.

bangkokben, have a terrific weekend. I cannot figure out how this time zone thing works, but I gather it's close of business Friday afternoon where you are. Good on ya!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 2:38 AM | Report abuse

Portland certainly appreciates your props, Diddy. And we are working on that smoking ban in our bars, bingo parlors and bowling alleys.

Maybe the thinking was that giving people a good solid year-and-a-half before the ban would allow them to smoke their guts out and, you know, maybe go ahead and die.

Ugh, that's macabre. ANyway, January 2009, smoke free Oregon!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 2:41 AM | Report abuse

Try the Jamocha!

Posted by: Ken Beatrice | September 7, 2007 2:42 AM | Report abuse

I pity the fool who reads this blog and finds me annoying.

Because, good grief, do I have the bloggorrhea!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 2:42 AM | Report abuse

Good night, Nate.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 7, 2007 2:44 AM | Report abuse

Good night, bangkokben.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 7, 2007 2:45 AM | Report abuse

Ken Beatrice, where are you working these days? You, sir, are a legend. F the radio suits who showed you the door.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 2:45 AM | Report abuse

Good night, Sichuan.

Posted by: P Diddy | September 7, 2007 2:46 AM | Report abuse

G'night, Viscount. Great work up here, as always. Good luck with your funder types.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 2:46 AM | Report abuse

Good night, Ken.

(I find it amusing that Loseable Type only lets me post once a minute)

Posted by: P Diddy | September 7, 2007 2:47 AM | Report abuse

Doggone rate limiting!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 2:50 AM | Report abuse

panties

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 2:53 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: The Crickets | September 7, 2007 3:58 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: The Crickets | September 7, 2007 4:01 AM | Report abuse

Did Ladell Betts make a deal with the devil?

"Betts ran for a career-high 1,154 yards last year and led the NFC with 666 yards in December -- mostly after Portis went on injured reserve. Betts was also rewarded with a contract extension."

Posted by: The Crickets | September 7, 2007 4:07 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: The Crickets | September 7, 2007 4:08 AM | Report abuse

Who is responsible for this big, pain-in-the-SJK, in-line ad for Comcast's Redskins coverage that keeps popping up with the blog page?

Our pop-up blocker may not stop that ad, but our eyes will avoid it diligently.

F Comcast!

Posted by: The Crickets | September 7, 2007 4:11 AM | Report abuse

Ocho says: Drew Brees will never shake off his poor showing in the Indy game to be named MVP this year, as several of the so-called "experts" opined in the past week.

Posted by: The Crickets | September 7, 2007 4:14 AM | Report abuse

Comast=Communists

Posted by: cosmofla | September 7, 2007 4:15 AM | Report abuse

Highlights from Jasno's Thursday Chat session on WaPo.com:

Rockville, Md.: Where did Howard Bryant go? I like you better, but he seemed like a cool dude? Did you pull some strings to get him fired because you felt threatened by him?

Jason La Canfora: That's pretty funny.

A) If I had that kind of pull I wouldn't be a beat slug.

B) Howard is one my favorite people in the business and is indeed a cool dude. No threat there. It takes a village to cover this football team.

C) If I did in fact get Howard whacked, I'd also make sure one of my boys got hired to help me cover the team.

D) Howard got the deal of a lifetime from ESPN and trust me, he's not lamenting not being in this media room out here at The Park anymore. His career could not be in better shape right now.

Posted by: The Crickets | September 7, 2007 4:28 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: The Crickets | September 7, 2007 4:30 AM | Report abuse

Hahahahahahahahaha - Commiecast!

Perfect!

Posted by: The Crickets | September 7, 2007 4:41 AM | Report abuse

Damn, we almost forgot!

Doo-bee-doo-bee-dooooooo
Doo-doo-bee-doo-bee
Doo-bee-doo-bee-dooooooo
Doo-doo-bee-doo-bee
Doo-bee-doo-bee-dooooooo
Doo-doo-bee-doo-bee-DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

(Thanks, 4-12!)

Posted by: The Crickets | September 7, 2007 4:45 AM | Report abuse

To the person(s) who was/were wondering about the whereabouts of Brian Baldinger: he seems to be showing up on NFL Network on a regular basis. It's probably safe to assume that NFLN hired him at some point.

Posted by: The Crickets | September 7, 2007 4:49 AM | Report abuse

How long before some kid figures out how to hack into this system?

http://www.nfl.com/partner?partnerType=coaches

Posted by: The Crickets | September 7, 2007 4:52 AM | Report abuse

We hope Commiecast is really paying alot for these inline page ads, because they really are annoying.

On the other hand, we are really happy to be increasing the page-view count so those SJKers will have to pay even more!

Posted by: The Crickets | September 7, 2007 4:54 AM | Report abuse

Does anyone know the record for most page refreshes in one minute? We're trying to break it, whatever it may be.

Posted by: The Crickets | September 7, 2007 4:55 AM | Report abuse

Our prediction for Sunday's game:

Much pain and suffering for any Dolphin entering Area 51.

Posted by: The Crickets | September 7, 2007 4:59 AM | Report abuse

POSTED 2:34 p.m. EDT; UPDATED 3:12 p.m. EDT, September 6, 2007

JETS HAVE GLARING HOLE ON LEFT SIDE OF THE LINE

On Sunday, Jets G.M. Mike Tannenbaum will likely be cringing with every snap that the offense takes, hoping that former I-AA lineman Jacob Bender or previously unwanted Ohio State product Adrien Clarke don't get thrown into the backfield from the position previously occupied by Pete Kendall.

Tannenbaum and company opted to play the tough guy with Kendall, refusing to give him a $1 million raise in 2007 despite an alleged promise to re-adjust a deal that Kendall revised last year at the team's behest. The veteran was a disruption during training camp and the preseason, eventually prompting the team to trade him.

And while the move solved the problem of having a pissed-off Pete Kendall in the building, there's now a glaring hole on the left side of the line, between 2006 first-round center Nick Mangold and 2006 first-round tackle D'Brickashaw Ferguson.

Bender, who last year at this time was playing for Nicholls State (which we think is in the U.S.), reportedly will get the start. But the Jets' online depth chart shows Clarke as the No. 1 left guard. Either way, there's a chance that a huge leak will be sprung when the Pats come to town on Sunday -- and that quarterback Chad Pennington could be drowned by the ensuing sea of silver helmets.

Posted by: WrongDog--from pft | September 7, 2007 7:09 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | September 7, 2007 7:19 AM | Report abuse

4-12 why you have to go and ruin the start of my day? lol

Posted by: jm220 | September 7, 2007 7:36 AM | Report abuse

Black lace thongs.

Posted by: jm220 | September 7, 2007 7:40 AM | Report abuse

Was listening to 98 ROCK (Baltimore) this morning.

Their morning show is Mickey and Amelia and Speagle (sp). They were making their picks for this week.

All 6, except one, picked the dolphins. Which would be fine if they were basing their prediction squarely on their football opinion, but as always... that was not the case.

Amelia, when asked about the skins/dolphins relied = "Ugh, Dolphins", then when one picked the skins eveyone said "No, you cant, you traitor"

Jasno, maybe a good idea for an article is the dynamic between Bmore vs Washington, especially since you are so intrinsically qualified.

I have never understood the blind rage (at this point it is rage) against Washington.

I know Jasno has said why he thinks it is, blocking of the team/force fed skins games back in the day; maybe we could delve deeper. I lived in Baltimore when they won the superbowl... i couldnt root for the Gmen and so I was happy the ravens won. Good parties in Bmore that weekend.

I was also happy when they got a team. They got shafted when the Colts left. But all the misdirected anger towards the 95 south speaks to level of intelligence of the average ravens fan. Trust me, I have lived in and around Baltimore since 1996. The game last year was supposed to be redemption against the Colts, which they lost. You would think that they could let 25 years ago lie in the past.

But they cant, and wont, and show their ignorance by constantly hating towards DC.

Soapbox off

Posted by: Zebra | September 7, 2007 7:47 AM | Report abuse

Okay, back at 'em, skinsiders!

Posted by: farstriker | September 7, 2007 7:50 AM | Report abuse

BTW;

I left at 4pm yesterday and there were about 100 some odd posts... i came back this morning and there were 700. Bravo guys...iw ill try to keep the day shift rolling, but one of these days I will need to focus on work.

Posted by: Zebra | September 7, 2007 7:52 AM | Report abuse

... and it smells like the inside of a wooden leg after a rainstorm.

Posted by: I just farted... | September 7, 2007 7:56 AM | Report abuse

Mark;

I hope my diatribe yesterday made sense. You will know if you really need Sunday Ticket to see the skins (i am assuming that is why you got it) or not if you keep looking for them on USnday Ticket but the broadcast is blacked out on sunday ticket b/c it is being carried locally.

I doubt that would be the case due to your proximity to Bmore... but I got rid of it b/c only once last year in PA did i need sunday ticket to see the skins.

Mind you it was fun to be able to choose which game you see, but usually the best game was on locally anyway and my fam and I (in-laws ans brothers in law) were drinking, grilling and generally talking... which made us miss a lot of actual coverage... which made it not worth the $200 plus

Posted by: Zebra | September 7, 2007 7:57 AM | Report abuse

I fear I may have been correct in my prediction yesterday that the Saints would flame out this season.

Posted by: etrod | September 7, 2007 8:01 AM | Report abuse

Dan Patrick on DC101;

Says he would be surprised if Gibbs coaches past this year.

Says coaches hate to have an owner in their ear.

Says skins are saying by starting JC that we will learn with you... thick or thin

Skins win this weekend at home... if it was away we wouldnt.

Maybe Gibbs gets energized if JC has a good year.

Posted by: Zebra | September 7, 2007 8:05 AM | Report abuse

Goooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: D7 | September 7, 2007 8:13 AM | Report abuse

If I were a Ballmer fan, I would no doubt hate the Skins, too. It's as natural (bigger city, rich and arrogant owner, overall feeling of bull in a china shop) as hating the Yankees.

But the proper response is:

Who cares?

Posted by: farstriker | September 7, 2007 8:18 AM | Report abuse

lust for mayhem. I just love saying that.

Posted by: jm220 | September 7, 2007 8:22 AM | Report abuse

Dont get me wrong farstriker;

I could care less, another hated rival... awesome... i guess i wish i understood it more. I can understand a general hate of a team... but they were picking for a contest where no matter my blind rage or whatever... i would want ot win and would base my picks without bias.

I guess thats just me. If i had to bet on Gmen\Cowgirls sadly my moneys on Cowpies

Posted by: Zebra | September 7, 2007 8:23 AM | Report abuse

Also, maybe a mutual hate would be easier to swallow... ie skins/girls

but when one side hates another even though it is not really a rivalry... there is no history of games, fan clashes, playoff battles.

They just seem like the little brother who cries and whines about every little thing.

Kind of anti-football if you ask me

Posted by: Zebra | September 7, 2007 8:26 AM | Report abuse

Zebra,

Thanks, I understand that I should be able to see all of the skins games, either locally or on Sunday ticket. I usually watch the games by myself, although my wife may watch again if they win. She is a big Joe Gibbs fans. I did find the link to wiki on the NFL tv schedule fascinating in its complexity. I think in the end the NFL would be better served if showed all the games all the time. But then what would the lawyers have to do?

Posted by: Mark (in 21132) | September 7, 2007 8:28 AM | Report abuse

The number 1 thing I cant stand about the Ravens is their fans

The number 2 thing I cant stand about the Ravens is their color

The main thing I cant stand about the Ravens is their fans, wearing that color, on camo pants and bucket hats.

What a weak @ss attempt to create an fan identity

Posted by: Zebra | September 7, 2007 8:30 AM | Report abuse

Zebra, so Dan Patrick gave up his ESPN gig so he could... make appearances on stations like DC101? Shoulda gone for that plum Price is Right gig.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 8:31 AM | Report abuse

Gibby is 2-10 the last 3 yrs against the AFC! They have done nothing to catch up to the AFC. More KOOLAIDE PLEASE!

Posted by: SKINYS SUCK AGAINST AFC | September 7, 2007 8:32 AM | Report abuse

Zebra,

One more note: it may be that my irritation level at not being able to see all the skins games is very high and may distort my memory. It seems that I was not able to see at least five skins games a year, and none of the preseason games on CSNMA except when the skins played the ravens. I think you may have been able to see more games than I could. But that is the past. The future is bright.

Posted by: Mark ( in 21132) | September 7, 2007 8:33 AM | Report abuse

I think it's goofy discussing a "rivalry" between DC and Baltimore. It's a zero-sum discussion, like the less-than-scintillating WVU vs MD idiotfest over on "Throwing It Out There."

I've been under the impression there's a lot more vitriol flowing south on the Parkway than north... meaning that I think it's a bigger deal to more Baltimorons to hate on Washingtonians than vicey versey. But I could be wrong on that, which is always a risk for me.

I have a bit of envy for the Inner Harbor, the more recent Super Bowl title, Ottobar, and the general manager, but that's about it.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 8:35 AM | Report abuse

Actually, that was their first question to him.

For the first time in his life he is between jobs.

He said it was never about the money. Just they want you to do 5 jobs for that money and he wanted to do his own thing (which worked out for Rich Eisen pretty well).

He did not want price is right at this point in his life. Seems it would be right if he was older. More of a wheel of fortune guy anyway

Posted by: Zebra | September 7, 2007 8:36 AM | Report abuse

Zebra,

Ref Bawdamuurs hatred for us.

Older Sister (DC): Prom queen, smart, dating the captian of football team.

Younger (Bawdamuur): Younger somewhat dumpy sister who isn't as popular and therefore goes goth and hates everything about older sister and jocks, fashion etc.

Posted by: Skinz | September 7, 2007 8:43 AM | Report abuse

Exactly Skinz;

Which is more like highschool dating than football.

Maybe all those years away from football mad the new gen Bmore Football fans soft

Posted by: Zebra | September 7, 2007 8:47 AM | Report abuse

Someone help me out, my memory isn't the greatest, but in the draft where we took Gardner, Rod, and the Jets took Santana, was Reggie Wayne still available when we made our unfortunate pick?

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 7, 2007 8:53 AM | Report abuse

Greg,

Gardner, Rod was the 15th pick

Reggie Wayne was 30th.

Posted by: Skinz | September 7, 2007 8:57 AM | Report abuse

The main thing I cant stand about the Ravens is their fans, wearing that color, on camo pants and bucket hats.

What a weak @ss attempt to create an fan identity

Posted by: Zebra | September 7, 2007 08:30 AM

Don't forget the mullets.

Posted by: etrod | September 7, 2007 8:59 AM | Report abuse

etrod;

It is affectionately called to Baltimullet

Posted by: Zebra | September 7, 2007 9:01 AM | Report abuse

Skinz, thanks. Ugh....

Hingsight is alway's 20/20. I think the thought was at the time, that Rod would become what Reggie Wayne is today.

Unfortunatley, Rod had and still to this day has zero work ethic, and an incredibly over-inflated sense of worth. Especially considering that he's flamed out with us, the Panthers, the Packers, and now the Chiefs.

Waste of talent...sorry for the rant..

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 7, 2007 9:03 AM | Report abuse

I'm not much of a baseball guy. Do Orioles fans hate the Nats? I know Peter Angelos does, but how about the fan base?

Posted by: etrod | September 7, 2007 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Maybe for those left as Orioles fans. I followed them religiously in the 90's and it has dwindled ever since.

I dont root for the Nats, but I dont hate on them either.

Posted by: Zebra | September 7, 2007 9:10 AM | Report abuse

I like Ozzie Newsome and have since his was a young buck with the Browns (who were always my AFC and #2 team). And he is obvie a kick azz GM....

BUTT...

F THE RAVENS. I hate them almost as much as a NFC East team. Way over-hyped, team stealing, siht bag moddell, Baltimore is a garbage city, I am sick of hearing about them, their coach is a pompus windbag, their fans are johnnt come latelies, their baseball team has a worse owner than Snyder, they kept a baseball team outta DC longer than we kept a football team outta B'more...


I am pissed they have McNair b/c I have loved that dude since college..

BUTT F,F,F,F,F,F,F,F, THE RAVENS...

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 7, 2007 9:14 AM | Report abuse

cL;

I always call them the Baltimore Browns or the Cleveland Ravens... just to piss off all those fans who love that team that came from cleveland

Posted by: Zebra | September 7, 2007 9:17 AM | Report abuse

O's fans don't hate the Nats, at least as far as I can tell...

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | September 7, 2007 9:18 AM | Report abuse

A healthy rivalry between the Nats and O's, who actually have a chance to play "games that count" every season due to the interleague scheduling, seems much more natural than the goofy Ravens-Skins thing, since in the fubball we only play each other once every four years aside from exhibition scrimmages and games. Meh.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Unless the Skins and Ravens meet in the Super Bowl.

Ha, ha, hail.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Ah, I hate to ask again, but Cyn City, if you're out there, we are desperately in need of a fresh new post up here.

Let's keep rolling!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 9:32 AM | Report abuse

I grew up in Silver Spring. My teams were the skins and the Senators, but I always felt I had two more teams to root for in the O's and the Colts. When I was young, B'more's teams were always better than DC's. I was envious, but nothing could make switch allegience from the DC teams. However, I have never met a native of Baltimore who would admit to liking the skins or the Senators or who could explain the dislike.

The second leaving of the Senators kind of soured me on baseball. I still enjoy the game but do not really have a team. I cannot really root for the Ravens, but I was happy the city got a team, and I do like Baltimore as a city.

Posted by: Mark (in 21132) | September 7, 2007 9:33 AM | Report abuse

See, I knew the Orioles from 1990 and on.. not a fan of baseball prior to that.

Never knew a DC team, and I do not root for the Nats because they are just the Expos to me.

In the same way I cant understand Ravens fans. THere are older ones who knew the Colts, and even younger ones who were told of the shabingus, so they know the histroy of it.

I can understand a little why they would accept the Old Browns as their team. But there are those, like my brother in law, who was a skins fan his whole life, and then just turned into a Ravens fan when the came in 1996.

Never really made sense to me. He lived in MoCo and actually went to school with Lisa Boyfriend (#24 SS).

I doubt I will ever switch to the Nats and root for them. If that happens then !) I have started liking Basesball much more than I currently Do, B) stopping caring about the O's which is close 5) Dont follow any team b/c of my new affinity for the sport.

Really, I will just probably fade away from baseball totally.

Posted by: Zebra | September 7, 2007 9:33 AM | Report abuse

" ... Given last year's shenanigans with Tom and Katie, what on earth is "Mr." Snyder going to do on Sunday???"

Posted by: P Diddy | September 6, 2007 05:54 PM

I'm pulling for self-immolation.

Posted by: dcsween | September 7, 2007 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Beantown Greg,

Did you watch that HBO special where they bring Rod in and tell him that he didn't play hard until he knew he was about to be cut.

Then the personel guy asks him if he'd be willing to come back if they needed him and he said "Nah man, what's the point?"

Lol the point is to play football you Aclown!!!"

Posted by: Skinz | September 7, 2007 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Wow, you guys have been busy! I gave up on last night's game when it looked like Brees was actually going to generate negative fantasy points for me. Good to see he pulled back and made 1 point! LOL.

That and the fact that the Clots looked SO good. I have to be glad that we don't play them twice a year in division games now, it's bad enough that we have the Patriots twice.

Don't get the Jasno hate stuff. If you think he's negative, don't read him.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 7, 2007 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Gardner, Rod was the 15th pick

Reggie Wayne was 30th.

Posted by: Skinz | September 7, 2007 08:57 AM

FYI...Chad Johnson and Chris Chambers were 2nd Rounders that year..Steve Smith was taken in the 3rd.

It's all about hindsight, baby.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 7, 2007 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Redcoat...

1. My criticism of Janso was about him being negative, its I thought he made a weak arguement for his position. Why is wrong to take issue with that? Thats why they have these talk back avenues

2. I dig Janso. If we were neighbors we would prob be bos. And I really enjoy his writing style. BUTT its OK to point-counter-point him...no?

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 7, 2007 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Skinz, I did not see it, however have heard about Gardner's performance. Once again, Rod let his ego make the decision, even if it meant not playing. He's a complete moron, and a waste of talent.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | September 7, 2007 9:56 AM | Report abuse

damn multitasking...should read:

"My criticism of Janso WASN'T about him being negative"

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 7, 2007 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Chris Larry wears red lip stick

Posted by: jm220 | September 7, 2007 9:58 AM | Report abuse

The Hard Knocks thing on Gardner, Rod was CLASSIC!

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 7, 2007 9:59 AM | Report abuse

jm220 loves pork rinds and washed them down with Mad Dog 2020

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 7, 2007 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Not sure if already posted.

John Clayton's First and 10:


6. Miami Dolphins at Washington Redskins
These could be two of the league's sleeper teams ... or two teams that could stay asleep all season. Joe Gibbs has worked hard to fix last year's disappointing five-win season. He put all his energy into making Jason Campbell a good young starter, and so far Campbell has showed a lot of progress.

The biggest change is on defense. Defensive coordinator Gregg Williams didn't have the talent to run his scheme last season. The additions of LaRon Landry and London Fletcher will help immensely. Fletcher does a great job at middle linebacker and works well with Rocky McIntosh. Suddenly, the Redskins are formidable in the middle of their defense.

The Dolphins have a chance to be an AFC sleeper if Trent Green can add four or five points per game to the offense with his efficient passing style. Green is coming off a great week of practice. Cam Cameron, a former Redskins quarterback coach, is making his debut as the Dolphins' head coach.

Posted by: Skinz | September 7, 2007 10:05 AM | Report abuse

F chris Larry!

...in a good way.

Posted by: Dik | September 7, 2007 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Wasn't talking about you Cl, I was talking about the people who keep popping up accusing Jasno of not being 'kind enough' and somesuch.

You're right, he's sometimes VERY selective in the data he uses and how he interprets it (aren't we all when we're constructing arguments) and you should, and do have the right to call him out on those interpretations.

That's healthy discussion to me, so pray continue - not that you need my permission for anything!

The thing that kills me about guys like Gardner is that they never appreciate the fact that a large percentage of the male population would fight tooth an dnail to have the opportunity they have, and they just p*ss it away.

Things come too easy for those guys and no-one calls them out early or strongly enough to make a character course correction. In fact mostly it's the opposite and you have idiots enabling that behaviour for them instead. It's such a shame but twas ever thus.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 7, 2007 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Zebra, did you see that sweet promo near the end of last night's game for this week's Sunday Night Game? It was so wonderful--it harped on the agonizing failures of both the Pokes and Jints last year.

I'd forgotten how delicious that bobbled snap/Romo takedown on the 1-yard line was.

Ah, sweet smell of rivals' failure!

Oops, I sound like a Ravenoid talking about the Skins!

Posted by: farstriker | September 7, 2007 10:08 AM | Report abuse

F chris larry

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 7, 2007 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Soldat Anglais,

Vous êtes un français lofoque à encourager les dauphins à la gros nez. Néanmoins, bonne chance, mais non beaucoup trop.

http://www.wordreference.com/

Quarante ans pour mois.

Posted by: Mark (dans 21132) | September 7, 2007 10:10 AM | Report abuse

far;

nope i was aslepp right after half time.

Woke up to hear the score.

Wow, I should have stayed awake.

So was the Saints O and D that bad or are the colts gonna be a repeat champoin?

Posted by: Zebra | September 7, 2007 10:11 AM | Report abuse

LMGO! CL that was my borther's drink.

Posted by: jm220 | September 7, 2007 10:12 AM | Report abuse

RC,

Yeah, I watched a couple episodes of the show. They did a good job of showing Gardner, Rod contrasted against this arena WR who clearly just wanted to play football at any price.

In the end the Arena League guy made the team and Gardner, Rod was cut.

Posted by: Skinz | September 7, 2007 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Mark,

If you aren't trying to kiss someone or surrender to the blog then there is no reason to bring French onto this blog.

Two more days boys....Let the bodies hit the floor!!! Let the bodies hit the floor!!! Let the bodies hit the FLOOOR!!!!

I just got light headed. OUT!

Posted by: Seantizzy 2 d hizzy | September 7, 2007 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Why doesn't the Post hire aomeone - ANYONE - to help cover the Redskins? Win or lose, it's the most popular franchise in town, but there's arguably more "news" in the paper about the Reavens, even other NFL teams. All we fans and subscribers get is recycled facts (how many times have you read that Joe Gibbs is the most successful coach in franchise history, that CP had an injury plagued 2006, or - as Mark Maske had to remind us during those dark years - that Steve Spurrier had 122 wins in 12 years at Florida?). Two days before the season opener and there's nothing in the paper about how Gregg Williams intends to make Trent Green miserable? Nothing about the state of the receiving core? Maybe there's no room for anything but the latest information about Khary Campbell's strained hamstring . . .

Posted by: Anonymous | September 7, 2007 10:23 AM | Report abuse

For those who don't read french, it is a dig at Redcoat ("don't call me a frenchman")and his fins.

Posted by: Mark (in 21132) | September 7, 2007 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Ugh... the trip back through time from Gardner, Rod to Westbrook, Michael to Howard, Desmond... triple ugh.

Give me the quiet brilliance of Santana or the work ethic of Thrash any day over those all-hype, talent-wasting nobodies.

Lloyd, Brandon, we're watching, dude. You're on the clock. Do something this season. Shut up and play.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Capt. Obvious...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 10:25 AM | Report abuse

I don't think the Saints are that bad--they were just, like, uh, like a Division I-AA school playing a top ten school.

Dadgummit, that's not so helpful anymore. . . .

Posted by: farstriker | September 7, 2007 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Mark (in 2112). Merci mon brave.

A crazy Frenchmen indeed....

bonne chance aux Peaux Rouges aussi.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 7, 2007 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Anon, we heard that help was on the way for Jason on the Skins beat, in the person of a new Jason from LA.

In the meantime, the Ravens beat reporter, Dan Steinbog, Tarik (Caps beat) and others have been chipping in. I think.

I bet there will be beaucoup (for Redcoat) Skins articles tomorrow and especially Sunday... saving up for game day.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Like, Jasno alluded to an article on the Wilson kid that is coming Sunday.

Bet there will be a big pullout Skinstravaganza for those fortunate enough to get the paper version of the paper.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Scrolling my goshdarn guts out... and hey, where's MV Dame with a comment count?

We need a discussion topic... anyone?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Should we put a copy of the Skinstravaganza in the snailmail to you Nate?

I for one have little interest in reading it...

Posted by: Redcoat | September 7, 2007 10:30 AM | Report abuse

From J-La's live chat last week:


"Accomac, Va.: Has The Washington Post selected another reporter to help you with the 'Skins beat? Who? And are you going to be Batman or Robin?

"Jason La Canfora: Batman. Absolutely Batman. After four years on this beat with four different partners, I ain't riding in the sidecar like The Boy Wonder. Jason Reid, formerly of the Los Angeles Times, will start Thursday, I believe. Don't know him, never talked to him in my life, but I am told he's a good dude."

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Yeah there is an article on Chris Wilson coming out in the sunday paper

Posted by: Dante | September 7, 2007 10:33 AM | Report abuse

I'll try a short-term topic while Cyn Cyty invents some news for us. :0

Someone was expressing displeasure at all the Cowpokes fans 'up here' in division games and positing that they were all bandwagon types rather than legit fans.

There has been a Dallas-based Executive branch here since early 2001, why wouldn't there be lots of Dallas fans in the area - they bussed hundreds, maybe thousands of them up when they took over the ovoid orifice.

So with that in mind, who do you think will be attending Skins games in 2009 onwards. Gints fans? (Hillary) Bears fans (Obama), etc.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 7, 2007 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Greatest Redskins memory.

Discuss

Posted by: etrod | September 7, 2007 10:33 AM | Report abuse

For me, It's Darrell Green's punt return against Chicago in the '87 playoffs. I still get chills thinking about it.

Posted by: etrdo | September 7, 2007 10:35 AM | Report abuse

That's a very kind offer, Redcoat, merci beaucoup. But you might as well wrap up your fish and chips with it, as you probably intended to do originally.

I plan to have collapsed on the keyboard sometime late Saturday night as we reach the Penultimatum, then make my bleary-eyed way to the sports bar early Sunday morning to meet Stumped and Willie, and then to probably take another blabbatical for a few days to detox and give the haters a break.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 10:36 AM | Report abuse

For me one that pops up is the Daryl Grant/Dexter sack, fumble, TD against Danny White and cowpukes in the 82 champ game....I was like 10 and flipped out...

My main celebratory move back then was jumping and slamming myself against the living room wall....prolly explains alot now...

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 7, 2007 10:38 AM | Report abuse

That reminds me of one of my favorite Skins moments, the Gus Frerotte head butt.

Posted by: SMACK | September 7, 2007 10:42 AM | Report abuse

I have two favorite moments from my very few trips to see the Skins play in person...

1. Rypien's 442-yard, 6-TD game, a 56-17 romp over the Falcons. You couldn't leave your seat at the risk of missing a Skins score.

d. Darrell's last game, the 20-14 win over the Cowboys... seeing the great man take his victory lap, priceless.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 10:43 AM | Report abuse

I'm with Etrod. Holding his ribs and running it in. I loved watching that guy play.

I'm too young to really remember Riggo's run. (For some reason i do remember M. Allen's run though which is my least favorite memory of all time.

Posted by: Skinz | September 7, 2007 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Love me some Gardner, Rod bashing. In that episode, there was one interesting part. Player Personnel Director Ray Farmer telling Rod he was having a great camp physically. But they "were worried about his mental skills, saying or doing the wrong thing at the wrong time" (sounded familiar). Farmer then told Rod he thought "there was something wrong with him"...classic.

Anyone care about who's calling plays? I seem to remember last year that Gibbs took over when we got inside the 20, but Saunders had it between the 20's.

I hope that we see Saunders calling all the plays. Time to start showing off Al. I see a 31-7 victory, with some defense and/or special teams TD.

HAIL!

Posted by: k Squared | September 7, 2007 10:45 AM | Report abuse

f smack for bringing that up....

smack you remember the slow mo of Landry saying "Danny...NOOOOOOOOO!" one time on a 4th and 1 snap that he was trying to stop...

F Landry

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 7, 2007 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Patrick Johnson's muffed punt reception to finish the game for Washington 11/21/2003. It secured the 14 point Q4 comeback for Miami to win the game. :-)

Posted by: Redcoat | September 7, 2007 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Rich Eisen:
(I need some pats on the back for pulling this stuff.)

Washington Redskins: I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say the conversation on the success of the Redskins and perhaps the future of Joe Gibbs' tenure there comes down to two words: Jason Campbell. No pressure. His first full season as an NFL starter opens this Sunday. The good news: Campbell is real talented. And because of his talents, Gibbs will be more comfortable and inclined to let Al Saunders run the more wide-open offense that Mark Brunell struggled at running last year, which led to questions about the team's offensive identity, which helped cause a massive rift in the locker room and apparently the coach's meeting room last year. If Campbell succeeds, then maybe Washington fans will finally get introduced to Antoine Randel El. Perhaps Brandon Lloyd might show up, too. The trio of Clinton Portis, Santana Moss and Chris Cooley is as good a running back- deep threat-possession tight-end/H-back combination as any in the league. Campbell must be solid at these controls for Washington to have a chance. Of course, the defensive that shockingly disintegrated last year must rise from the ashes. Gregg Williams has no doubt lost many a 40-winks trying to figure out what in the world happened last year. First round pick LaRon Landry is going to have a big year, I think. I'm looking forward to the improvement of this team because nothing is better than when the NFC East is thriving. And I'm not just saying that because NFL Network on its fall schedule Dallas twice, the Giants once and the Redskins once at home against ...

Posted by: Skinz | September 7, 2007 10:47 AM | Report abuse

my blog broke!

Posted by: Dik | September 7, 2007 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Patrick Johnson's muffed punt reception to finish the game for Washington 11/21/2003. It secured the 14 point Q4 comeback for Miami to win the game. :-)

Posted by: Redcoat | September 7, 2007 10:45 AM

This also led to a 40degree temperature drop in the Thanksgiving household of Mrs Redcoat parents' as I was the ONLY one cheering.

Thank God we stuffed the Cowpokes in Dallas the following Thursday. I may have starved/frozen to death otherwise.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 7, 2007 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Some dudes power rankings on ESPN.

24. Washington Redskins
Coming off an injury-riddled 2006, the Skins have Sleeper Potential for a variety of reasons -- multiple impact guys, a full season from Jason Campbell (who's not bad), an impact rookie (safety LaRon Landry), an impact free agent (London Fletcher), an easy first six weeks (Miami, at Philly, NY Giants, bye, Detroit, at Green Bay), and even a full year for everyone to absorb Al Saunders' 700-page playbook. Does any of this change the fact Joe Gibbs is starting to look and act like Uncle Junior during the final season of "The Sopranos?" No.

(Random note: The recent trend of successful athletes with conventional first names that start with "La" -- like LaMarcus Aldridge and LaRon Landry -- has me more excited than ever to name my first son "LaBill Simmons." My wife is less excited.)

Posted by: Skinz | September 7, 2007 10:51 AM | Report abuse

5 TCCL to SKINZ for blood hounding the newz

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 7, 2007 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Thanks CL,

I was kidding about naming Simmons "some guy" he's classic.

(I'm smaat, not like everyone says.)

Posted by: Skinz | September 7, 2007 10:54 AM | Report abuse

the last post I'm seein on here is 10 AM. I'm clearin out the cache... but it's a no go....

hmmm.

Try to blog on Redskins Insider
but I can't go... go.. go...
I can't see the new posts
they won't show.. show.. show..

Sure, I'm wastin' time.
I guess my bosses mind

They tryin to block my access
this I know.. know.. know...

oy.


Posted by: Dik | September 7, 2007 10:54 AM | Report abuse

There is really a need for a new post

Posted by: jm220 | September 7, 2007 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Nice Far, nice.

Saints o scored 1 fg... thats it. They might not be that good this year. If they are next week can we say it was a week 1 hiccup or that the Colts are that d@mn good again this year. Their D looked like they were playing bend dont break.

With that O, its a solid strategy

Posted by: Zebra | September 7, 2007 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Agreed JM,

We need a Preseason TCCL. Cyn City just start the post....

Posted by: Skinz | September 7, 2007 10:55 AM | Report abuse

I think the Colts might be that good...there O Line is straight sick and BBM and company play with ease like most of us breathe....

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 7, 2007 10:58 AM | Report abuse

No new post yet? Took a minor beating about the head and thorax last night with the Saints. Who could guess the Colts could stop the run without a Booger and shut down the passing game inside the first down marker?

Note to sfskin: One beer hangover? Follow the rulz of chRIs Larry and Willie ... tell the arresting officer you are REALLY into bonsai and that its just some variant of a japanese maple.

Posted by: dcsween | September 7, 2007 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Good stuff Dik. I laughed out loud and sand it to "Wake me up, before you go go."

Posted by: Anonymous | September 7, 2007 10:58 AM | Report abuse

830rdeenth!

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 7, 2007 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Note to Rich Eisen: He spells it A-N-T-W-A-A-N.

Also, now that the body is cooling down ... good riddance to Pavarotti ... he's a shaver.

Unibrow and proud of it,
dcsween

p.s. F opera (except "Tommy").

Posted by: dcsween | September 7, 2007 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Post # 26 on this thread - no other news, yeah me

Posted by: Zebra | September 7, 2007 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Channing Crowder and Zach Thomas have nice things to say about the Skins!

http://www.nfl.com/teams/miamidolphins/profile?team=MIA

Click on the video "Dolphins prepare for Redskins backfield"

Posted by: Redcoat | September 7, 2007 11:04 AM | Report abuse

p.s. F opera (except "Tommy").

Posted by: dcsween | September 7, 2007 11:02 AM


And the Barber of Seville Bugs Bunny cartoon. Classic. Kill da wabbit, Kill da wabbit!

Posted by: etrod | September 7, 2007 11:04 AM | Report abuse

"Kill the wabbit" is in What's Opera Doc? etrod.

Don't you guys know ANYthing about cartoons? :-)

Posted by: Redcoat | September 7, 2007 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Hey folks,

What's up with the storm off the east coast? Is it gonna hit DC this Sunday or what?

The 'Skins need a stadium with a retractable roof, guys. First the Baltimore preseason shabingus, and now this. With the global warming (ManBearPig!!) these days, a completely open-air stadium is great, but a risky proposition.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 7, 2007 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Lucky dude | September 7, 2007 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Just read the JLaC article about Portis. The Jasno-is-negative meme for peeps here is getting a little too knee jerk. The article is straight up reporting. 1. No Skin inspires emotion like Portis (good and bad) and 2. if he puts up >100 yards, all is forgiven. Both of these essential points are true. The rest of the article just pads those two points. Relax. It's not like the COLUMN (I think it was Wise) that tries to read Portis' mind and says Portis has fear and self-doubt. THAT part is rubbish, not Jasno's article.

My only problem, and this is linguistic and not just Jasno but also every other writer, is the spelling of tendinitis. If the thing that is inflamed is a tendon, why isn't it spelled "tendonitis"? This is the only outrage I have about the Portis reporting ... the rest is just a question mark. [I'm really "going for the jugu ... er ... capillary" on this one.]

Posted by: dcsween | September 7, 2007 11:11 AM | Report abuse

SCSkins they don't seem to be calling for it yet. Maybe the system never formed.

Posted by: Redcoat | September 7, 2007 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Sween, I shave mine as well. It doesnt connect compltetly. Would look like a 14 yr old hispanic guys pre-mustache... just god awful. If it would connect all the way I would rock it

Posted by: Zebra | September 7, 2007 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Lucky dude, Croyle is not THAT lucky ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-zuQOtEu4k

Posted by: dcsween | September 7, 2007 11:13 AM | Report abuse

SCSF, the 60% chance of thunder storms they forecast for Sunday afternoon have been rescheduled for Monday.

Zebra, if you shave it, it will come.

Posted by: dcsween | September 7, 2007 11:15 AM | Report abuse

I remember the Riggo run well, because I was there to witness it in person. And I was rooting for the Skins because the Dolphins were dead to me.

cL, we've talked about NODANNY a few times. The SOB was not supposed to run the play.

Posted by: SMACK | September 7, 2007 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Mom must be so proud of her little piggy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xahi0bqz2Mo

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | September 7, 2007 11:17 AM | Report abuse

wait...SMACK you were AT the Riggo SB and your still a cowsissies fan....wow...

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 7, 2007 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Use it as a coaster...

Posted by: BRILLIANT! | September 7, 2007 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Have been for 12 years at this point. It is never mopre than a couple of prigs in the middle.

Cool 5 oclock shadow there would make shaving it worth it!

Posted by: Zebra | September 7, 2007 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | September 7, 2007 11:21 AM | Report abuse

I stand by my critique of Portis piece...again not in a homer way but in a refuting of the arguement way...but whateves...

Thats why they play the game....

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 7, 2007 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Doh! I couldn't remember the title and am too lazy to look it up but I knew it was set to The Barber of Seville so I ran with it. I hate myself.

F Opera.

Posted by: etrod | September 7, 2007 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Here's to you Mr. You'd rather come to another teams blog than your own teams blog, guy... or guys.

BOOFER and SMACK, you should try removing your hand from your johnson for once in your life and get a girl without... a johnson herself.

I bet both of you guys make Rocky Dennis look like a Playgirl model...

Posted by: Real Men of Genius | September 7, 2007 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Yeah CL, it was a great time. I bought a dime bag outside the Rose Bowl and the people behind me were feeding me shots of bourbon. Excellent adventure for a 15 year old, but no, I only needed the Skins for those 4 hrs, thanks very much.

Posted by: SMACK | September 7, 2007 11:26 AM | Report abuse

... and look at you now. Still a loser!

Posted by: I sold you that weed... | September 7, 2007 11:28 AM | Report abuse

LMGO! Smack that would explain why you are a cowgirl fan. You got a hold of a bad bag. lol

Posted by: jm220 | September 7, 2007 11:28 AM | Report abuse

I'm glad to hear the Jason from LA (Jla2?) will be coming to the Post, but I don't know if that means more or better coverage of the Skins. The Skinstravaganza you might be looking for appears to have been rolled into the NFL '07 insert earlier this week. It's just frustrating - as a lifelong Skins fan (I remember getting out for those Super Bowl parades, and I still have Redkins sheets and nighlight from when I was a kid) and as a former Post paperboy - I expect more from the paper. Jason does a fine job, but why has the Post taken so long to give him a hand? Bring back Nunyo!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 7, 2007 11:31 AM | Report abuse

I chalk up all these criticisms to having been raised by Dolphin fans. You have to expect some backlash.

Who TF is Rocky Dennis?

Posted by: SMACK | September 7, 2007 11:32 AM | Report abuse

4-12 why you have to go and ruin the start of my day? lol

Posted by: jm220 | September 7, 2007 07:36 AM

What did I do jm?

Posted by: 4-12 | September 7, 2007 11:33 AM | Report abuse

BOZO JM110 MORE LIKE IT!!!!!

YOU SILLY SKINNY FANZ!1!!! YOU NEVER STOP BELIEVING THAT YOUR OLD MAN COACH AND GREGG LOLZ 31ST RANKED DEFENSE. YOU AREN"T GONNA BE ABLE TO BEAT MY COWBOYS WHO WILL GO AND STOMP THE GGIRLS THIS WEEKEND

GET YOUR BOOHOO BOXES READY WA WA BOZOS!!!

Posted by: BOOFER | September 7, 2007 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Boofer's back! The season has officially begun.

Posted by: etrod | September 7, 2007 11:36 AM | Report abuse

BOZO JM110 MORE LIKE IT!!!!!

LMGO! I don't even remember the last time I weighed 110. Hell I may have just jumped over it. lol

Posted by: jm220 | September 7, 2007 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Boo Semi-literate all caps typer!

Hooray Beer!

Posted by: Red Stripe Guy | September 7, 2007 11:37 AM | Report abuse

re: BOOFER

yessssss . . . the season is officially on

Posted by: stevie in gp | September 7, 2007 11:39 AM | Report abuse

etrod: less-than-great-minds . . .

Posted by: stevie in gp | September 7, 2007 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Ah Boofer how we've missed. Do come back on monday.

Posted by: Skinz | September 7, 2007 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Are we sure that chick knew she was marrying Brodie Croyle and not Dave Grohl? The Spartan shield masquerading as a belt buckle probably gave it away . . .

Posted by: stevie in gp | September 7, 2007 11:46 AM | Report abuse

cL, I went back to your Jasno/CP posts. I can't disagree with your rap and prolly was not referring to you as among the screamers. Seems like you're mostly taking him to task for what he DIDN'T write rather than what he did. One point though ... CP himself seems to view the other RBs who have served with him as real important to his play rather than just "clean up and short yardage" guys. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/09/06/portis.redskins.ap/index.html (scroll down to where he's talking about Anderson, Olandis Gary, and Droughns). ... Of course, I may have missed your point entirely.

Posted by: dcsween | September 7, 2007 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: skinswest | September 7, 2007 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Thanks sween...

I agree with you...i meant more "clean-up" guys a compliment, like Betts might be...my point being that statistically if CP wasnt asked to do those dirty work tasks as much it helps his numbers look more gaudy, as oppossed to his time with Skins where he was asked to grind clock, wear down D's, pick up 3rd and 2s etc...


My point being that when dealing with numbers/stats you can't look at them in isolation or they only tell a partial story...

But I am one of those secular humanist, relativists, no facts are purely objective types so maybe thats my bias....

Posted by: Chris Larry | September 7, 2007 11:53 AM | Report abuse

cL, its always good to agree on stuff, esp. that Portis is not ONLY one of the premier explosion backs in the NFL, but he also carries a lunch pail as a blocker. Like being an O-lineman, no one really notices when a RB blocks (except maybe those TiVo watching, number crunching guys at postgameheroes.com ... who, I gotta say, I really appreciate for spending the time and energy to evaluate play by the O-friggin-LINE!).

I think there is also probably another thing you and I (and probably everyone else here) can agree on ... F chRIs Larry!

Posted by: dcsween | September 7, 2007 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Did somebody call about some stale thread?

Posted by: TUPPERWARE | September 7, 2007 12:00 PM | Report abuse

881 comments on this thread! Can we get a new post?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 7, 2007 12:04 PM | Report abuse

F Baltimore (little provincial red-haired stepchild that it is) and its "fans"

Posted by: Ed | September 7, 2007 12:05 PM | Report abuse

longest... thread... ever...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 12:07 PM | Report abuse

F Smack
F the Cowboys
F their dumb fans
F Jerry Jones and his new stadium

Posted by: Fred | September 7, 2007 12:07 PM | Report abuse

After careful three minutes of review of this 800+ post thread, the results are in...and the winner is....


SMACK

We love you SMACK even though...well you know.

Posted by: Stumped | September 7, 2007 12:08 PM | Report abuse

F Redcoat
F the Dolphins
F Miami
F "La Vida Loca"

Posted by: Jed | September 7, 2007 12:09 PM | Report abuse

In the category of Funniest Stand Alone Posts...here's the winner.


I think we lost our edge as a superpower when we decided that pizza needed a dipping sauce.

Posted by: SMACK | September 6, 2007 09:04 PM


Bada boom

Posted by: Stumped | September 7, 2007 12:10 PM | Report abuse

F Nate and his blabbaticals and his mostly pointless meanderings. (The record is over 1000 posts for a thread.)

Posted by: Ted | September 7, 2007 12:12 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: Anonymous | September 7, 2007 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Someone really ought to start looking for Jasno's body in the Skins locker room at this point.

Posted by: TUPPERWARE | September 7, 2007 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Forget the redskins.... let's talk about the Colts and their repeat... Yeah!

Posted by: SkinSuckColtsRule | September 7, 2007 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, Ted! Much obliged.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 1:32 PM | Report abuse

(loser defending self on stale thread)

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 7, 2007 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Commando............................

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As they say in French movies...


FIN

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"Come on, kids, get away from Mr. McDunnough's car!"

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"Mind you don't cut yourself, Mordecai!"

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