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Tommy's Guest Blog

Questions About 2007 Season- By Tommy

As the Redskins go into the 2007 season, starting September 9th, there are some questions that need to be answered now. The Redskins have not started strong for the past few seasons. As of right now the offense looks like a 5 and 11 team, and defense - on the other hand î º looks like an 11 and 5 team. Here is what I need to know going into the season.

Number 1 - We allowed Derrick Dockery to go in free agency and signed Jon Jansen a season ago to big lineman money. Is Joe Gibbs' loyalty as team President hurting us?
Could we have severed ties with Jansen knowing he has declined and moved Todd Wade to right tackle where people in the organization feel he is better than Jansen?
This draft was loaded with offensive lineman and we drafted linebackers? Will the Derrick Dockery signing come back to haunt us like Antonio Pierce going to the Giants?

Number 2 - Even thou Todd Collins looks good in pre-season, he has not thrown a pass in the league since his boy, Thurman Thomas, was playing and he just gave his Hall of Fame speech and having Mark Brunell in the quarterback shuffle - who looks like he lost more than 10 steps is another loyalty decision by Gibbs. Should we have signed a better back up Quarterback because if Jason Campbell gets hurt we are done?

Number 3 - Are Brandon Lloyd and Randall El going to step it up? Last year they looked like guys who got big money only to stink the joint up smelling like another Daniels Snyder's free agency world tour.

Number 4 - Are the defensive ends of Andre Carter and Phillip Daniels able to get enough pressure to get sacks and pressure the Quarter back? Carter came on late last season. I hope that carries over. At times Daniels shows flashes, but he is getting older that's why Marcus Washington will rush the passer on third downs.

Numbers 5 - Can Carlos Rogers catch an interception, or does he have the worst hands ever? Because he drops more interceptions than Steve Spurrier goes for it on 4th downs. And we sure remember those.

Last Question - Can Clinton Portis show the burst he once had? Can his body take the pounding of an NFL running back or will Ladell Betts come on the scene again down the stretch? Last year Ladell Betts looked great down the stretch in Al Saunders system. Hopefully he will hold on to the football.

Every year around this time I go to Game Stop to pick up the Madden video game and build the Redskins to an 11 and 5 team and win the Super Bowl. Now the questions I have as a Redskin fan is this - can this team have a record of 11 or 5 or 10 and 6 come December, or do I have to build my Super Bowl team in a video game? These are the questions I have going into the 2007 season. Does anyone have answers?

By Jason La Canfora  |  August 21, 2007; 11:42 AM ET
 
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Comments

missing one tackle is not a reason to cut a player.

Posted by: BT | August 21, 2007 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Why do amateur writers feel the need to riddle their works with clichés? As a reader, it really turns me off.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 21, 2007 11:50 AM | Report abuse

We couldn't afford Dock and we couldn't afford Pierce. Pierce has had his moments with the Giants, but he's overpaid. And Dock will never be worthwhat Buffalo paid him. Time to move on. Neither signing "haunted" us.

Posted by: KK | August 21, 2007 11:50 AM | Report abuse

JM220 - I am about to send you an email.

4-12 - Same

Posted by: 4th | August 21, 2007 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Can Clinton Portis show the burst he once had?

It was his shoulder not his legs.

Every year around this time I go to Game Stop to pick up the Madden video game and build the Redskins to an 11 and 5 team

Maybe that's why you came up with some of these questions because you think the game is real. No way in SJK do you pay Dockery that type of money. You along with everyone else here would have raised hell.

Posted by: jm220 | August 21, 2007 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Sheesh and you guys complain about me and my predictions that Brunell may be headed to the falcs.

Look they just cut Lemar Marshall. Lemar Marshall remember him? They are serious as a heart attack about making a run this year. The defense looks like it could be special. Both Joe Gibbs and Jason's sources agree that the special teams are going to be really special. So special that guys the skins cut are likely to catch on quickly elsewhere.

SO WHAT EXACTLY is Joe Gibbs doing wrong? He hired Saunders because everyone claimed he was "outdated" yet his offense was more successful. It also won more than one superbowl. How many has Al Saunders won?

YEAH the offense has problems. BUT guess what. Ramsey is a backup in Denver and Gibbs finally found a starter for the team. Yes wide receiver is a problem. And the hole at guard is glaring. But they do have a running tandem and a decent tight end.

And in the end championship teams are built starting with the defense. Just ask Jasno's favorite team, the Ravens. So, the defense had to be addressed immediately with whatever few draft picks they still had. And it was.

And Gibbs is an offensive guy remember? Yet he drafted for defense? Sheesh. You got 2 out of 3 firing on all cylinders. Let's be a little patient here.

Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 11:54 AM | Report abuse

root for the uniforms, now if they can just show renaldo wynn the door.

Posted by: Old School | August 21, 2007 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Great to see another ex-Cowboy in the house, right jm, 4th, 4-12!

Posted by: SMACK | August 21, 2007 11:55 AM | Report abuse

JM, you actually lose at Madden? I just hit the reset button.

Posted by: C2 | August 21, 2007 11:55 AM | Report abuse

with news flying fast and furious....is this really the time for another RAMBLING GUEST BLOG......jeesh..

People are wayyyyyy overreacting to cutting Marshall....

Posted by: CHRIS Larry | August 21, 2007 11:55 AM | Report abuse

I'm pretty sure Lemar's base salary was about $1 million for '07, so that would be the savings. I'm rusty on my capology...still in preseason mode with that.

Posted by: 4-12 | August 21, 2007 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Thx for taking the time to summarize, though I think the majority of concerns are on offense at this point (save for the Marshall release). Wow, also surprised by them letting LM go- I hope MW can hold up and Blades is showing some serious progress; I also REALLY hope that this is clearing some room for OLine help.

Jason- any word on Betts and his attempts at not fumbling?

Posted by: D7 | August 21, 2007 11:58 AM | Report abuse

If i here that Todd "I got cut by the Texans" Wade is better than Jon "Longest Tenured Redskin" Jansen my head is going to explode. IT IS PRESEASON. Jansen, as any experienced veteran knows that. The starters are not gonna risk hurting themselves right not because these are EXHIBITION games.

Posted by: RLM | August 21, 2007 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Periculum

Its an offensive league... this team will go as far as the offense takes it...i agree that it looks like our defense could be good maybe very good and we will play very well on special teams thats enough to stay in games but to get over the top two things need to happen... scoring and creating turnovers... take the ball away and capitalize...we do that and we could have something.

Posted by: Old School | August 21, 2007 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Tommy - While you make some valid points I personally am not going down that road in the preseason. The D is looking good so far and the offense may come around once Samuels returns so unless/until they stink up the regular season I will remain blissfully optimistic/naïve/ignorant/you name it.

Also, as I recall, under Gibbs 1.0 the running game always seemed to struggle in the preseason and then turned it on when the games counted.

Posted by: skinswest | August 21, 2007 12:11 PM | Report abuse

From Redskins.com:
The Redskins have also signed wide receiver Jerel Myers, who played in the Arena League with the Kansas City Brigade last year. He spent time on the Buffalo Bills' practice squad in 2003-04.

Myers was coached by Redskins' wide receivers coach Stan Hixon at LSU.
-------------------

Are they truly that desperate for bodies at WR?

Posted by: 4-12 | August 21, 2007 12:11 PM | Report abuse

C-2 I haven't picked up Madden 08 yet. Been playing Dragonball Z and Tiger Woods. (I love the Wii)

I will be waiting for the e mail 4th. Smack are you starting today. lol

Posted by: jm220 | August 21, 2007 12:12 PM | Report abuse

periculum,

Nice post. If there has to be another "guest blog" maybe you should write it.


Lemar Marshall is 31 years old. I, for one, am happy to see him replaced by some young guys. I wish we could get younger at every position (except safety, of course).

Posted by: KK | August 21, 2007 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Marshall's cap number is $1.182M, $1M in base salary. If cap savings was the point, I think there were other decisions they could've made.
I can't say I understand the move, but Marshall is undersized for an LB and did seem to struggle with making tackles the last couple of weeks. The only thing I can guess is that he's been passed by Campbell, Blades and Sartz and the numbers at LB finally caught up with him. That doesn't hold much water if they signed Godfrey, tho.

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 21, 2007 12:17 PM | Report abuse

4-12,

Signing Todd Pinkston was desperation. This guy from the Arena League, he's just a long-shot. I predict that, in the end, they get a receiver off someone's waiver list.

Posted by: KK | August 21, 2007 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Ok here we go, Dockery was not worth the money Buffalo gave him. We will use the best patch guard on the roster and maybe pickup a guard at"cut time". Todd Wade for Jon Jansen...are you insane! Jansen is the "rock" for a reason.Carlos will widen his fingers and catch some picks. Expect a better year from Brandon Lloyd and don't forget Thrash and Pinkston. We will get one more year out of Collins and Brunell. Andre Carter will play like a freak and Marcus will get sacks while Daniels occupies blockers. Portis will be just as good as he was in 2005, even more so with Betts looking for more carries. This teams will be 9-7 and Gibbs wil step down from a hard season and expect Cowher to be brought in by Snyder.

Ok fans, hang in there and don't be so critical. Remember we have the Eagles and Cowboys to beat out as well; not an easy task for a 5-11 team a year ago.

Posted by: Jeff Wilson | August 21, 2007 12:24 PM | Report abuse

The 'skins are not picking up WRs to find a #2 receiver. They just need bodies to throw out there in the last two preseason games. Moss, Lloyd, ARE, Thrash, and one guy who can make tackles on specials with potential.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 21, 2007 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Maybe they're getting ready to unload a pricey, non-productive receiver too?

I want my NFL 2K series back!! All-Pro is good, but I don't want a made up team of has beens - I want to play the games w/ my Skiins!

Posted by: Dik | August 21, 2007 12:30 PM | Report abuse

I'm gettin' all tingly. did the new linebacker sign for league minimum? .. I would think so.

Posted by: Dik | August 21, 2007 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Jansen is overrated and was a turnstile at times last season. He was outplayed by Wade last year. He was a Pro Bowl caliber before that so not sure what happened. No one calls him out because he's a 'core Redskin'. I'm calling him out. Dock had to go...too much money. We should have resigned him last year before he came free. Marshall and Holdman were among the worst in the league last year. Good riddance. Maybe Marshall was out of position but that's not my problem. At MLB, he was horrible.

Posted by: mark | August 21, 2007 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Does Godfrey by chance have the ability toe rush the passer better than Lemar Marshall... OR is he better suited to fill in at Strong Side LB when Marcus plays out of the 3 pt stance as a DE...

JLC - what is the thought behind this move... Give us the scoop bro...

Posted by: E in VB | August 21, 2007 12:38 PM | Report abuse

I guess starting the season 3-0 during the playoff run of 2005 doesn't qualify as starting stong. Apparently, we haven't "started strong" in several years.

Re-signing Dock for the insane amount of money that Buffalo gave him would have been, uh, let's see here....insane. Cutting Jansen for a Wade, who looked good at times but got a tremendous amount of help in blocking schemes last year, would fall in the "I'll light you on fire category".

Where's the gatekeeping on these guest blogs?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 21, 2007 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Whoa. For a second there, I thought Les Carpenter was writing blogs here...

Posted by: duck | August 21, 2007 12:49 PM | Report abuse

I think the Skins wanted to upgrade with Godfrey (who, I agree is an upgrade) and they had to decide who to release. The best answer for the future of this franchise was Marshall. His release is exactly what good teams do...draft young and replace mediocre old veterans.

Teams like Philly and New England do this all of the time. They hear it from the fans right up until the point they have another 10-13 win season. I for one see this, along with keeping both Golston and Montgomery last year, as a positive trend.

Posted by: Glass Half Full? | August 21, 2007 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Is anyone going ask if Jason Campbell is going to wear a knee brace? If he was wearing it he wouldnt have been injured in the first place. AsK Daute Culpepper, Carlson Palmer, and Donavan what they think about the knee brace.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 21, 2007 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Mark,
Todd Wade did play very well last year in place of Jansen last season, but you cant honestly say he is better than Jansen. I would understand the argument to replace Jansen if Wade was an up and coming young tackle, but he is not. He is a journeyman who has bounced around because he is inconsistent. Jansen is the Rock and has been the leader of the O Line since he was drafted. Samuels is the talent of the O Line but Jansen is the heart.

Posted by: RLM | August 21, 2007 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Godfrey played for double G in Tenny town.

Dik,
Try this link for places to watch in MIAMI:
http://www.thehogs.net/html/funzone/PlacesToWatch.php#Florida

Posted by: Forrest | August 21, 2007 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Marshall was dead weight. What was he going to bring to the team this year?? Any word on attitude issues with him losing his starting spot? Maybe he was not taking the demotion well and causing problems internally...

Posted by: nah | August 21, 2007 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Week 12 Raiders W 21-14 13 12 1 1.0 5.0

Godfrey's stats against the Raiders in week 12 last year. 13 tackles, 12 solo and a sack.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 21, 2007 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Question 7 - Why do the guest blogs pretty much sum up everyones statements without adding any depth or insight?

I'm not drinking the Tommy hatorade, just more a question/comment about how the blog "hits" me sometimes. Its very "regurgitated."

Now I'm going to go drown myself.

Posted by: WaPoLiveFan16 | August 21, 2007 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Why don't guys like this go post at extremeskins- where even a thread this rudimentary will draw criticism- and let this blog actually be dedicated to actual news and insight. Just an opinion.

Posted by: Um | August 21, 2007 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Lemar was not Wilbur.

Posted by: Stumped | August 21, 2007 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Now I'm going to go drown myself.

Posted by: WaPoLiveFan16 | August 21, 2007 12:59 PM

...in Tommy hatorade.

Posted by: JonTPK126 | August 21, 2007 1:09 PM | Report abuse

releasing former starter Lemar Marshall, the team's leader in total tackles over the past two years.

Godfrey, 34 and a veteran of 11 seasons, is joining his fifth different franchise.

Not sure this was really a smart move. Maybe if he was younger.

Posted by: jm220 | August 21, 2007 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Wow, that's some low-quality, amateurish writing. Actually makes Jason look good by comparison!

Hmmmm.

Posted by: un-named poster | August 21, 2007 1:13 PM | Report abuse

While I find it hard to believe that there is NOTHING for Jason to write about the Redskins at this very moment, why do the powers that be at WP.com continue to allow this blog to be written by amateurs? If you want the world to hear your opinion or "insight", create a personal blog or post on extremeskins and stop trying to show us how smart you are about football.

This is the ONLY blog at WP.com that with contributions, not comments, from the peanut gallery and it is becoming a joke. Frankly, too much of RI is spent hearing about Jason's family, vacation, soccer, beer, and social gatherings. The personal stuff is nice filler, but the blog is about the REDSKINS. If you want to ramble on, get Marc Fisher's job!

Posted by: Lester Burnham | August 21, 2007 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Jm220 go read the stat line...Godfrey is a quality LB depth...

Lemar starting LB on league worst D

Godfrey starting LB on league top ranked D...

as stan lee would say...nuff said...

Lemar was the quintessential "guy of the street" that GG and Dale Lindsay paraded around as their system guys....

Godrey has an 11 year pedigree as a starter with decent career stats...

Posted by: chris Larry | August 21, 2007 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Have to agree with CL, the guest blog was poorly timed and rehashed shti we already know up here.

*yawn*

Back to trades and injuries please.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 21, 2007 1:15 PM | Report abuse

F you CL!!!!!!

The guy is 34 years old. I just think if we going to pick somone up he should be younger than 34.

Posted by: jm220 | August 21, 2007 1:18 PM | Report abuse

The RI blog is mostly very good...even when I disagree with JLC (yesterday's OL blog). Yes, this one from Tommy was a waste (sorry Tommy). However, if you don't like it, just go to the Lemar Marshall or Mark Brunell blogs that were posted late yesterday or today and comment there. It's not like you didn't get news today...geesh.

Posted by: Glass Half Full? | August 21, 2007 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Well said, Lester.

The guest blogs ("glogs"?) were supposed to be RI fodder between February and July.

No more Glogs, please.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 21, 2007 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Godfrey was not resigned by Chargers (that says something).

Marshall was a starter when the Skins had top-5 defenses two and three years ago.

Posted by: BT | August 21, 2007 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Lester Burnham,
Uh, hello. This is Jason's blog, really.

Jason does it cause he wants to, not because the Post has decreed it or has made it a part of his job description. My understanding is that he does it in addition to all his beat reporting and the his editor Cindy helps support the blog too.

Your opinions about what this blog is about are always welcome. Thanks.

Posted by: Stumped | August 21, 2007 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Lester - Jason does this blog on his own time, the wapo paper is his job not the blog.

Posted by: CC | August 21, 2007 1:23 PM | Report abuse

F JLC!!!

I am just bored at work and want to go to the gym. Sorry. F the FCC! Now that's better.

Posted by: jm220 | August 21, 2007 1:24 PM | Report abuse

maybe they could have traded marshall for something? Maybe they could have picked an O-lineman in the draft instead of more linebackers. Maybe they could trade brunell for an 8th round pick. Maybe they will be 8-8 this year.

Let us see how the season plays out. Then we'll have the whole offseason to say "told ya!"

Posted by: Lee | August 21, 2007 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Also, to the comment that "it was not my fault" Marshall was playing out of position at MLB...We ask players all of the time to "take one for the team" and take a role which is best for the team even though it is not best for them individually.

When Snyder was too cheap to pay for Pierce (don't give me that "there was no cap space." whehn has that ever stopped us?), Marshall was willing to play out of position for the team. In fact, he played well the first season when the D seemed not to miss a beat. It is stupid to say "he is not good at MLB." No crap, that isn't his position.

Posted by: BT | August 21, 2007 1:26 PM | Report abuse

#98's 2005 highlight reel:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/471907/2005_lemar_marshall_highlights/

It's 2007, not 2005. In the NFL, what have you done for me lately?

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 21, 2007 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Running across the blog yelling "I am not crazy"

Posted by: jm220 | August 21, 2007 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Wow anyone can write a guest blog it seems. We haven't started strong for the past few seasons? Have you already forgotten our 3-0 start in 2005? Amateur.

Posted by: ytrain | August 21, 2007 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Wow, 1st Tommy hatorade & now Jasno hatorade...it's getting deep in here. Why don't you guys go blow off some steam on Madden '08...the season will be here soon enough and then we can all make comments on real issues pertaining to the Redskins and not just the hypothetical.

Posted by: JonTPK126 | August 21, 2007 1:30 PM | Report abuse

At least you got clothes on this time jm220.

Posted by: 4-12 | August 21, 2007 1:31 PM | Report abuse

just for 4-12. Looking around to make sure my boss isn't looking. Just joking. lol

Posted by: jm220 | August 21, 2007 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Lemar Marshall had ....drum roll, major injuries after his tackle leading performances on top 5 defenses. Get some Ginkobuloba Jm & BT, seriously. He got run over post injuries, knees and shoulders if I remember correctly, and was never the same player. Sad but true.

They moved him to the middle because his wheels were lacking and he stunk up the joint, on one game where the Skins D gave up like 245 yards last season on the ground he had no solo tackles. His days were over.

No wheels, no shoulder, no run stuff no slot on the squad...

Posted by: DTC | August 21, 2007 1:35 PM | Report abuse

and now for something completely different

Posted by: farstriker | August 21, 2007 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Here is a rough draft of the SCSkinsFan Glog (JLC will probably post this later today):

Let's rehash what we already know about our beloved 'Skins, because it is way more fun to write a glog than cutting the grass or balancing the checkbook:

First, we all KNOW that the DANNY BOY cares more about his checkbook than ... blah blah blah

Second, Gibbs should stick to coaching and blah blah blah

Third, Grilliams is the worst coach to ever (continue hyperbole here)...

Fourth, Al Saunders and is 700-page play book need to blah blah

Fifth, this is a 5 and 11 team that needs a GM and... *zzzzzzz*

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 21, 2007 1:38 PM | Report abuse

a man with three buttocks

Posted by: farstriker | August 21, 2007 1:39 PM | Report abuse

What's a "fartsriker"?

Posted by: 4-12 | August 21, 2007 1:40 PM | Report abuse

DTC my main problem isn't that they let him go. But they brought in somone old. 34 with 11 years is old for a LB. We have enough old players.

Posted by: jm220 | August 21, 2007 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Oops. "Farstriker". Nevermind. Damn these new glasses.

Posted by: 4-12 | August 21, 2007 1:41 PM | Report abuse

gee, thanks, that's very sensitive. 'fartstriker'--ha.

"farstriker" is one of the epithets of the Greek god Apollo, the archer

I just like it

Posted by: farstriker | August 21, 2007 1:42 PM | Report abuse

News flash...it's not a big deal that we dropped LM or picked up Godfrey. It's a minor roster tweak that will hopefully improve us marginally in the near term. I would think that Godfrey adds a speed dimension that LM doesn't have however.

Posted by: Glass Half Full? | August 21, 2007 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Ah it's so easy to play skins GM and claim we'd *never* make the wrong moves.

Dock was a beast - at times, but that was truely mad money he got, and for once I applaud the team's fiscal responsibility. The only negative is the Todd Wade experiment may take 3-4 games for a verdict, and that is tough w/ a hobbled QB.

I am guessing coach Joe will say that Godfrey is solid backup at SLB and a need, given Marcus W's injury, and letting Lemar go now gives him a better chance to fight for a starting job somewhere. I'm guessing Nolan in SF or possibly the Iggles may take a look at him.

Posted by: Daddy-O | August 21, 2007 1:43 PM | Report abuse

lol Farstriker. I did a double take when I saw the name, but had already hit send.

Posted by: 4-12 | August 21, 2007 1:45 PM | Report abuse

but jm, we have only one old LB -- Fletcher -- everyone else is under 30, and surely we can have one older guy for one year if he's an upgrade (and not too expensive).
My recollection is that he was released because his cap number was pretty high and they had a young guy they wanted to get in there.

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 21, 2007 1:47 PM | Report abuse

The issue with Dockery and Pierce is the same as it was with Bailey, Clark and others and that is the team waits until the players' walk year before earnestly negotiating with them. Then the team and fans are surprised when other teams come in and sign them for what is viewed as 'ridiculous' money. The bottom line is that we are paying the price today for all of the trades of the past few years. It's hard to develop depth in the offensive line when you don't pick in rounds 2-4. That's how you end up with an undrafted FA starting at tackle and a journeyman at guard. And, for anyone saying that it's just the preseason and we shouldn't worry about the offensive line that's just crazy. When, exactly, is the line supposed to develop continuity and consistency. We have the Dolphins and Eagles in the first two weeks and I would argue that right now both of their D-lines are better than our O-line. Fortunately, the Dolphins are terrible on offensive...but, we're going to have a real problem competing with the Eagles as things stand today.

Posted by: RobS | August 21, 2007 1:47 PM | Report abuse

The skins released a backup linebacker(at best anymore) and signed another backup(who despite his age has more upside for this season.) If Lemar was named a starting lb, not one person here would be happy with that decision. It is a good move.

Posted by: nah | August 21, 2007 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Top 10 hits of Preseason:

http://www.nfl.com/videos

'Skins at #9 (bad) and #7 (good).

Little known tidbit: #98 came up with the nickname "Scarface."

Posted by: Anonymous | August 21, 2007 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Top 10 hits of Preseason:

http://www.nfl.com/videos

'Skins at #9 (bad) and #7 (good).

Little known tidbit: #98 came up with the nickname "Scarface."

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 21, 2007 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Top 10 hits of Preseason:

http://www.nfl.com/videos

'Skins at #9 (bad) and #7 (good).

Little known tidbit: #98 came up with the nickname "Scarface."

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 21, 2007 1:50 PM | Report abuse

oops oops oops

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 21, 2007 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Dockery was way over paid in buffalo, out of all of the lineman I would rather lose Dockery. My question is why does Ranoldo Wynn make the team every year? This guy contunies to fly under the rador and make money! The skins need to start thinking about signing Cooley for a long term deal, he is a fan favorite and a top 5 Tight end in the NFL, something we havent had since? The skins need a GM, because it always seems like the fans know what to do a little bit more then Snyders frat buddy Vinny.

Posted by: rich | August 21, 2007 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Now's the time to get handle on pass protection - NFL.com

Preseason protection:

Team Pass plays, Sacks, Sacks/Att
Washington 61, 8, 1/7.6

Posted by: By Pat Kirwan | August 21, 2007 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Hey, I was leading the 'Jon Jansen is a Pro Bowl caliber right tackle' parade a couple years ago. Being honest, he fell off. Maybe Wade isn't the answer in his place. All i know is that we should be fairly evaluating guys and the best 5 should be starting regardless of loyalties or reputations. If Heyer is better than Jansen, he oughtta be at right tackle. (don't know if he plays that side). I think the Skins get caught up sometimes with loyalty and don't look at performance. ALL personnel decisions should be based on what's happening on the field.
What I saw last year was Wade playing better than Jansen. I also saw a huge drop in our linebacker play. I saw a suggestion somewhere about moving Jansen inside and playing Wade at RT. I don't care. I just want the best 5 out there. Marshall and Holdman were bad. They had to go. Even Rocky would have been better than Holdman last year. I'd rather see a guy run the wrong way occasionally and makes some plays than see a guy in position every time yet rarely make a play.

Posted by: mark | August 21, 2007 1:59 PM | Report abuse

OK, I accept that Jason writes the blog on his own time without any additional compensation or support from WaPo or WaPO.com. Early on, the blog seemed to nearly 100% Grade A Redskins stuff - the Morton's Angus beef of Redskins talk. Now, however, it like a McDonald's hamburger: some beef combined with floor sweepings and offal.

Rather than deceiving the reading public, maybe the name of the blog should be "Jason's Thoughts" or "Jason Shares His World and Talks About the Redskins (sometimes)" or "Jason and Friends Ramble on About Stuff". I don't think that it is too unreasonable.

I am not a hater and come to RI to find stuff that is not filtered like what I hear coming from Ashburn.

Posted by: Lester Burnham | August 21, 2007 2:03 PM | Report abuse

i can't believe you guys are mad over releasing lamar. seriously?

farstriker, thanks for Inside Man fill...i didn't see it until a day later.

Posted by: littery | August 21, 2007 2:07 PM | Report abuse

That was lame... Don't quit your day job dude!

Posted by: Lame | August 21, 2007 2:07 PM | Report abuse

I don't remember Wade playing at all last year. Wasn't one of the remarkable things about the OLine last year that they didn't miss any starts or had the healthiest line of any line last year. When did he play?

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | August 21, 2007 2:09 PM | Report abuse

LB can you answer a question for me? If you are that unhappy with JLC and the job that he is doing. Why come here? I really don't get it when people come SJK about the blog. If I don't like something why in God's green earth am i going to continue to stay.

Posted by: jm220 | August 21, 2007 2:10 PM | Report abuse

BT, If your plumber tried to do your electrical work and screwed it up, would you say, "it's not his fault, he was trying to fill in for the electrician so their company wouldn't lose the business?" NO. No one cares that Marshall played out of position or that he took one for the team. He was subpar. Period. If anyone besides marshall is to blame, it should be Lindsey or management for not having a guy who played MLB on the team. Bottom line is that he was no good in there. Also, when our D was top rated a few years back, Marshall was certainly NOT the reason. In fact, he was the weakest link at LB.

Posted by: mark | August 21, 2007 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Guest Blogger writes: "Could we have severed ties with Jansen knowing he has declined"

HAHAAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHH!!!!! this stuff always cracks me up. You guys don't even realize the power that the media has over you. You are brainwashed. You keep reading La Canfora's claim that Jansen "requires help" at tackle, but it's simply a myth because for some odd reason JLC feels like spreading this nonsense around.

Jon Jansen is one of the best starting tackles in the NFL. Anyone who believes he is "declining" is either A) brainwashed by shoddy reporters or B) Blind.

Posted by: Barno | August 21, 2007 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Mark... You said it!

"Even Rocky would have been better than Holdman last year. I'd rather see a guy run the wrong way occasionally and makes some plays than see a guy in position every time yet rarely make a play."

I never understood this... Rocky should have started much sooner than the last 2 games... Holdman was horrid and it's not like we didn't give anything up for Rocky, I thought he showed flashes of brilliams nad ST's and thought for sure he contribute more to the LB corp last season... Maybe GW has learned a few things and more apt to play the young guys sooner,,, IE - L2, possibly Blades and Sartz...

Posted by: E in VB | August 21, 2007 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Guest Blogger writes: "Could we have severed ties with Jansen knowing he has declined"

HAHAAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHH!!!!! this stuff always cracks me up. You guys don't even realize the power that the media has over you. You are brainwashed. You keep reading La Canfora's claim that Jansen "requires help" at tackle, but it's simply a myth because for some odd reason JLC feels like spreading this nonsense around.

Jon Jansen is one of the best starting tackles in the NFL. Anyone who believes he is "declining" is either A) brainwashed by shoddy reporters or B) Blind.

Posted by: Barno | August 21, 2007 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Skins started 3-0 in 2005. But I'll let you call it a slow start if it helps you make you point.

Posted by: Alan | August 21, 2007 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Dockery worshipers should wake up. There was talk about replacing him for a couple of years. He was pretty much a lumbering goon until his contract year. He had one good season and isn't doing very well yet in Buffalo. Jansen hasn't played poorly, he just hasn't played great. I'm convinced he'll be fine. Lemar Marshall was rumored to have attitude problems after being replaced at MLB and being passed over for Rocky @ OLB. He isn't very fast but was a decent depth player. I'm pretty sure Godfrey played for GW @ TN and should know the system. He's there to compete for a b/u job w/the young guys. It'll play itself out. I don't know which game the Guest Blogger was watching but the game I watched showed a Redskins offense that had a rythm and moved the ball well. The passing game looked very good. The running game will improve when Samuels and Portis are playing along with more time for Betts.

Posted by: DJ | August 21, 2007 2:18 PM | Report abuse

I can't type worth a SJK!

Posted by: E in VB | August 21, 2007 2:19 PM | Report abuse

You really need at least 3 games to show a statistical trend (and the Steelers and Saints already have 3), but things could still be better on the offensive side of the ball after 2 weeks.

Redkins offense:

PPG - 30th (12)
Yards rushing - 31st (60 Yds/G)
Average rush - 30th (2.4)
Passing yards - 23rd (160 Yds/G)
Sacks allowed - 27th (8)
Yards per play - 32nd (4)


Let's face it, the real discussion here should be the 'Skins lack of production in the red zone.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 21, 2007 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Farstriker is an 11th level Paladin w/ +20 melee when using bow.

[:-|

Posted by: Dik | August 21, 2007 2:22 PM | Report abuse

First of all, Derrick Dockery isn't worth $49 million. That's Steve Hutchinson money, and he's no Hutchinson. Other league observers thought he got too much money.

Second, CP is valuable to the Skins. The team is 12-2 when he rushes for over 100 yards. Also, he plays with injury, and is a better blocker and ball protector than Betts.

Daniels is washed up and Carter should be better this year. But he can't play against the run.

I think Lloyd will have a better year. After all it can't get worse than last year. Randle-El is what he is: a mulit-dimensional guy who got too much money. But I still like him.

As for the draft, they would've drafted a lineman, if they weren't missing 3 picks. O-lineman weren't deep in this draft, it was very weak. I like HB Blades, I think he can be future starter.

As for the video game--get real. I could be the Cleveland Browns and start Charlie Frye at QB, and Brady Quinn at WR, and still win the Super Bowl. Which reminds me, I need to get the game.

Posted by: yoyo | August 21, 2007 2:32 PM | Report abuse

these guest posts are so stupid and uninforming, whay do they keep appearing?

Posted by: PD | August 21, 2007 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | August 21, 2007 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Dik -- some cornball D&D character re-purposed the name, what can I say.

The true farstriker--god of medicine, light, truth, and, ahem, plague--is a deity, Apollo, nothing more and nothing less.

Artistic renderings of him tend to resemble #21, but I expect his true namesake on the team will be shown this season (hopefully during the first Dallas game) to be #17.

Posted by: farstriker | August 21, 2007 2:37 PM | Report abuse

F the glogs (SjK)

Posted by: Dman | August 21, 2007 2:37 PM | Report abuse

23strdteenth!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 21, 2007 2:39 PM | Report abuse

btw, 'glog' is the best coinage of the day, nu2me at least. Did SCSkinsFan invent it? If so, kudos, SC.

Posted by: farstriker | August 21, 2007 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Trade Boonell for a dozen new footballs and use the $2MM in cap savings to get Cooley's extension done.

Do it now.

Go.

Posted by: CMoney | August 21, 2007 2:41 PM | Report abuse

DJ speaks the truth about Dockery. And, about Pierce -- as I recall it he only started one year for the Redskins and he had a breakout year. The idea that we would have signed either based on their performance before their contract year is simply foolish.

These guys weren't Cooley or Reaper. They were men who matured in the Redskins system, and left for bigger money elsewhere. In Pierce's case, the 'Skins made him a competitive offer, but he opted to leave for another five percent that the Giants gave him, and he hasn't played as well for the Giants as he did for the Skins. I've got to believe that Pierce (like Smoot) regrets the decision to leave.

Posted by: KK | August 21, 2007 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Before we crucify Tommy, these issues were talked about a couple of months ago, so he may be new.

Many questions abound Tommy, I guess at this point the first and foremost is the results of Saturdays game and the recent signings/releasings

Posted by: Zebra | August 21, 2007 2:42 PM | Report abuse

ITA

Posted by: Anonymous | August 21, 2007 2:43 PM | Report abuse

JLC,

Please find guest bloggers with the ability to write coherent, complete sentences, not rambling, labyrinthine passages like this one as I attempt to prove a point about how giving the inarticulate access to your blog is a waste of your reader's time, unless the point of having Tommy guest blog was to have us decipher sentences like this one: "Even thou Todd Collins looks good in pre-season, he has not thrown a pass in the league since his boy, Thurman Thomas, was playing and he just gave his Hall of Fame speech and having Mark Brunell in the quarterback shuffle - who looks like he lost more than 10 steps is another loyalty decision by Gibbs", in which case you would have succeeded.

Thank you!!

Posted by: RZH | August 21, 2007 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Zebra, I dont think that were bashing Tommy. I just saying that anyone of us could have written it, and we've made those points a 1000 times..

Posted by: Dman | August 21, 2007 2:47 PM | Report abuse

To date, farstriker, I have used "flog" (fake blog) and "glog" (guest blog) up here in the RI.

Never seen them before, but they are probably out there somewhere on the interwebs.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 21, 2007 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Check and mate KK;

We cannot expect the FO to correct all mistakes at once... but it seems that they are letting JC be the QB which was in question mid-season last year.

THe defense is back to being what we thought it could be, or at least it is shaping up that way. L2 looks like a great choice over Adams and whoever else isnt making an noise this preseason.

CP is staying out of preseason just like LT, LJ, and other stud runners.

B lloyd made a great move to get open... that is major progress for him.

We kept #52 and he is playing like a beast

We ended the archibingus

So those are all good things, so we have a problem along the o line. And we need to sign cooley. If JC comes back by week one healthy, then I say we are much beeter shape than last year at htis time.

Progress is progress, lets have some patience and cheer for our team to get better

Posted by: Zebra | August 21, 2007 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Q8- What is a horse-shoe?
Q9-Are there any horse-socks?
Q10-Is anybody listening to me?

Posted by: Old Lady | August 21, 2007 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Mark - That is an stupid comparison.

Really, I would figure that a player that has 100+ tackles the past two years just MIGHT have a little bit to do with their success.

Posted by: BT | August 21, 2007 3:03 PM | Report abuse

First, I would like to thank Tommy who, for his efforts, got us started on a new thread, which means the screen refreshes more quickly when hitting F5. Thank you, Tommy. [Booooo to Tommy critics who don't try to do him one better.]

Second, how has THIS information not dominated conversation today?

"- Keep a close eye on Niners fifth-year WR Taylor Jacobs, who has been on the field a lot in three-WR sets and is a real favorite of WR coach Jerry Sullivan. We're told Jacobs had an outstanding training camp. The former Redskins second-round pick always has possessed great athleticism and could end up being a very intriguing late bloomer."

Posted by: kost52 | August 20, 2007 10:17 PM

Are you KIDDING ME? Taylor Jacobs!?!?! I will boo him till my throat is sore and never regret his departure (Walt Harris, Antonio Pierce, and others notwithstanding). Niners just need to wait till the REGULAR season.

The other bit from kost52 was about how Pork Chop Womack might not make the cut. I say SIGN him! I don't care how badly he is performing for someone else. He will be deeply loved if he can come in and solve our OG woes. [Also heard that Mulitalo might face being a #3 OG, so maybe even TRADE for him!]

On Lemar Marshall, I am wistful ... like I am every time they cut another Michigan State Spartan (first Whitticker, then Kyle Brown, now Lemar). My theory is that SOMEONE needed to be a scapegoat for last year and firing the LB coach alone was not enough. Marshall had a crappy game against the Steelers; I'm guessing his mental game had been at an all-time low in camp. Made him a natural for Grilliams' doghouse. Adios amigo, good luck. For those who say Godrey is a "solid" guy who "knows Grilliams' system from Tennessee ... Marshall is a solid guy who knows Grilliams' system in Washington. Btwn Godfrey and Fletcher, the Skins are reloading with MUCH older guys. In the last thread, someone said Marshall was in his "twilight". BS. He will catch on elsewhere and should be starting there before the season is out.

GODFREY DANIELS! One is an LB. One is a DE. These two words are how my dad swears. Sounds more sophisticated and less Mayberry than Gosh Darn It and does not require the SJK. I always knew what the [sjk] he was saying.

Speaking of Mayberry, where is Nate? Lots of new posters over the past 72 hours and no one has rolled out the welcome wagon. Anyway, till he gets here, welcome!

Posted by: dcsween | August 21, 2007 3:04 PM | Report abuse

People, J-La is always going to report the negative. He is not a skins fan, and appears to be an anti-skins fan, which is some ways is good, but he is about as fair and balanced as Fox News.

The truth is, negativity is what sells in the news biz, and us readers have nobody to blame but ourselves. So I don't blame Jason for sometimes going out of his way to say something bad about the skins.

But in reality, this has been the most positive off season since Gibbs took over. Much more positive than negative, so let's just be happy that we are taking steps in the right direction.
Are we a legit superbowl contender? Nope.
Are we the worst team in the NFL as J-La portends?
Nope.

We are just like the majority of teams in the watered down free agency era of the NFL. We could go 6-10 or 10-6, it all depends on one or two plays a game. That's it. So just sit back and enjoy watching football this year and let go of all the preseason paranoia. It only feeds the beast.

Posted by: Diesel | August 21, 2007 3:05 PM | Report abuse

but he is about as fair and balanced as Fox News

LMGO

Posted by: jm220 | August 21, 2007 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Good point diesel;

And DMAN, people are blasting the guest poster... and it strikes me as ironic that some lurker can post whatever he wants about Tommys post, uncensored for the most part by WAPO, but expects for Tommys post to be censored and not allowed per his uncensored opinion.

Kind of like the blind leading the blind... doesnt make mucb sense now does it

Posted by: Zebra | August 21, 2007 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Also, on the JLaC hating, lighten up. He starts new threads, often with intriguing insights and before the content has been digested by editors. LOTS of other RI peeps bring in new content. JLaC is one of RI peeps (and happens to be the only one with his picture on the top), but this blog was hijacked by its readers LONG ago. Save the expert journalistic critique for class. Come correct with something NEW to talk about -- Carping about JLaC has been done before -- and make sure your something new is interesting. The RI bloggers have the attention span of a hamster on ... [you know the rest].

Posted by: dcsween | August 21, 2007 3:10 PM | Report abuse

"Kind of like the blind leading the blind ..."

Posted by: Zebra | August 21, 2007 03:10 PM

I had a prof once who forgot her glasses and the microphone for the lecturn. Kind of like the blind leading the deaf.

Posted by: dcsween | August 21, 2007 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Check out the headline... who knew jm220 had a sister in Des Moines.

http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070820/NEWS/70820002/1

Posted by: 4-12 | August 21, 2007 3:17 PM | Report abuse

sween,

I say good for Taylor Jacobs if he can find a job. The job will only last, though, until he's injured and that should be within the next two or three days. "Oooh, there goes my leg again."

He will surely be bye-bye before the bye week. Looks like the niners got the best of that trade -- wasn't that how we got our Rumpf?

Posted by: KK | August 21, 2007 3:18 PM | Report abuse

4-12; you had to make that up, right? tell us you are a writer for the register... eerie how far the blog karma reaches....

funny sween

Posted by: Zebra | August 21, 2007 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Pierce was a great fit for the Skins Def, but this one is on Williams, thinking He (Williams) is smarter -- well, now comes in Fletcher (great player), but we had one in Pierce! -2 to the Skins

The OL needs to be more complete, we are not at full strenght, in the season, those missed assignments will have someone on them, so the defender CAN'T run wid at our QB! Dockery is overpaid, not a wise move to keep him! +1 to the Skins!

I agree we should ahve taken a OL during that one draft you referenced, but we didn't! -1 Skins

Can everyone get off Portis, everyone thinks he is injury prone, giv me a break, he is still youthful nda will have a banner year - we are doing to him that the Chargers do to LT, NO Playing in the Pre-Season - you mean more to un DURING the Season! +2 Skins

The chosing of Jason Cambell was huge, thi kid has what it takes, that lst game last year showed what he was made of, getting of the turf in the 1st half and coming back in the 2nd to fight, great pick - he will prove to be a better QB than Eli Manning - hands down!! +2 Skins!

Gibbs will turn this thing around here this year, everything does seem better, the Def is back on track adn the Offense will get healthly, I am looking for 21-16 games with us on the winning side, so 10-6 is not unthinkable this season adn the playoff's again, I love the Laundry pik, he is a player, let's hope Taylor has grown up and can hold his own, otherwise Laundry can not make up for Taylor's misgivings - +1 Skins

+3 to the Skins means more wins baby adn that is all we are asking for here!

Enough already - let's kick off the new season!

Posted by: Skins Fan #81 | August 21, 2007 3:24 PM | Report abuse

KK, yes, even though my throat is sore from booing him (and people in my office look at me with very confused looks on their faces), I wish Taylor Jacobs all the best, esp. with a newborn.

There is something I really don't understand about the Lemar Marshall/Randall Godfrey decisions. Why now? The 75 man roster cut is in a week (next Tuesday, the 28th) and the 53 man cut is next Saturday, the 1st. Why cut Marshall now? Godfrey was an unsigned free agent. Why sign him TODAY? Something weird here, just can't figure out what.

Posted by: dcsween | August 21, 2007 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Or the blind leading those who can see. This is amazing.

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_232194348.html

Posted by: 4-12 | August 21, 2007 3:25 PM | Report abuse

4-12 LMGO!! That's why you are the man.

Posted by: jm220 | August 21, 2007 3:26 PM | Report abuse

if jansen is so good why has he never even been a pro bowl alternate? the guy is only considered good by the clueless, blindly optimistic redskins fans who would also tell you that santana moss is a #1 reciever, sean taylor is a top 5 safety and thet joe gibbs is a competant head coach. You guys need to step back and take a much more realistic and unbiased view of things

Posted by: DC | August 21, 2007 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Recognizing I'm about 8 months too early on this, I think the Skins top need in the draft is at running back, esp. one who is willing to block like Portis, who does not have butterfingers like Betts, explodes after contact like Portis, and catch like Portis/Betts. Essentially, the Portis model in the 2008 edition.

Posted by: dcsween | August 21, 2007 3:31 PM | Report abuse

DC, I hear ya, but you are wrong about Santana.. in this age of smaller recievers not being able to be manhandled by DB's... him and Steve smith are two of the most dangerous recievers in the NFL and he is definately a #1 on most teams in the nfl...

Posted by: Zebra | August 21, 2007 3:31 PM | Report abuse

"... if jansen is so good why has he never even been a pro bowl alternate? .... "

Posted by: DC | August 21, 2007 03:28 PM

Because the Pro Bowl is a popularity contest?

Posted by: dcsween | August 21, 2007 3:32 PM | Report abuse

I find it funny how redskins fans, coaches, players, etc talk about 2006 as a fluke and say they have to get back to "redskins football" whatever the hell that is.

I think the more logical explanation is that 2005 was the fluke and that the 2000-2004 when the redskins sucked every year and 2006 when they sucked again is what "true redskins football" is.

Until you guys have a new owner things will never get better, you will continue to squander draft picks, sign the big-name players and coaches that are either washed up or do not fit the offense/defensive systems.

People can point to this past off-season when lil danny used "restraint" but the only reason for that is he had no draft picks to trade and no salary cap space.

You can believe that if bug eyes cerrato and lil danny had the cap space and assets to trade that you would be seeing michael strahan, randy moss, joey porter, etc playing here this season

Posted by: Jerry Jones | August 21, 2007 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Tommy is a good kid, I fault Janso/Cyn Cyndy. This is simply not the day or time for this kind of glog. A day when cuts and signings are being made, the Vick stuff, Trotter rumors...no one wants to read a laundry list of crud we already know!!!!!!!!!

When I think glog I think weird topic, actuall expert fellow writer or maybe something fun. Like I got a glog in the pipeline that will BLOW YOU AWAY!!! Holding it for opening week. Its got audio, picture, old school memories, anti dallas and the text will be like 4 sentences max!!!

Also I believe Glogs should be reserved for Hamster Level ROers OR you should sign them with you handle...Tommy? Who is that, did he get his tonsiles out? (Bonus points if you get tyhe reference!

Posted by: chris Larry | August 21, 2007 3:36 PM | Report abuse

The O-line , oh the bloody O line. We take a few sacks in preseason and its the end of the world. WE DON"T HAVE SAMUELS IN....YOU IDIOTS. You put Samuels in with Pucillo, Rabach, Thomas and Jansen and 3 games into the season Portis will hit holes the size of some of your egos.

RELAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jeff Wilson | August 21, 2007 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Jerry Jones,

Two words: Terrell Owens.

Posted by: KK | August 21, 2007 3:39 PM | Report abuse

cL, like ... um ... pucillo and heyer, i.e., The Replacements?

Posted by: dcsween | August 21, 2007 3:41 PM | Report abuse

what about Terrell Owens?

Posted by: Jerry Jones | August 21, 2007 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Nice! DcSweeny My Man!

Posted by: chris Larry | August 21, 2007 3:47 PM | Report abuse

If you do not think Santana Moss is a #1 WR you do not know much about football. The only receiver better than him in the division is the malcontent SJKhole known as TO. Please don't tell me Plexiglass or Reggie Brown are better.

As far as Todd Wade goes, he played for the Texans who were known for getting David Carr battered on a weekly basis. He started the Saints game and filled in admirably for Jansen. Jansen may be starting the downslope of his career but I want to see how he fares come regular season before I start calling for journeyman Todd Wade.

Posted by: cdubb | August 21, 2007 3:52 PM | Report abuse

cL, not really me (intentionally), but my sister loves all things Paul Westerberg so it was osmotic.

Jerry Jones at 3:43pm, if this were Jeopardy, you'd win the $600 square which reads "Keenan McCardell is the most over-the-hill-washed-up-still-trying WR in the NFL"

Posted by: dcsween | August 21, 2007 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Jeff Wilson, you don't live in Charlottesville do you?

Posted by: Jack | August 21, 2007 3:54 PM | Report abuse

No why?

Posted by: Jeff Wilson | August 21, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse

I do and I got a very good friend who lives in Cville named jeff wilson and is a skins fan, thought you might be him that's all.

And by the way, Samuels isn't going to be able to help Jansen or the running. He is a top 5 pass protector but he isn't going to help Pucillo/Wade/or whatever ham sandwich we sign off the trash pile be able to run block or stop DT's like Haynesworth from running over them. Samuels in there means JC's blind side is safer, that's it, he's not the cure all for the entire line.

Posted by: Jack | August 21, 2007 4:00 PM | Report abuse

This is the most inept sports blog in washingtonpost. The blogger cannot spell, is such a negative person, and is not even a 'Skins fan. Worst of all, he let amateur writers write stupid guest blog like this one. We want profesionally well-written inisder accounts, not junk like these !!!

Posted by: Goomba | August 21, 2007 4:04 PM | Report abuse

C'mon, C Larry. You think you can sneak through a Replacements ref on this crew? Not today.

As for LeMar/Godfrey, I'll withhold judgement for a week or two, it seems to be a perplexing move, rather than tragically illogical, at least, on the surface.

Posted by: RMilot | August 21, 2007 4:06 PM | Report abuse

I thought Jack said he wasn't coming back..

Posted by: Dman | August 21, 2007 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Oh, Goomba, aren't you getting your money's worth? I want a new Mercedes with pin stripes and a driver.

Posted by: KK | August 21, 2007 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Whoops - time to go get my face simonized!

I bet you didn't know these plugs on my head are from my tushy, didya.

Posted by: Jerry Jones | August 21, 2007 4:12 PM | Report abuse

"Lemar starting LB on league worst D

Godfrey starting LB on league top ranked D..."

In spite of everything, his age, nagging injuries the guy had 4 sacks. FOUR. Thats almost more than this entire defense last year.
AND MOST of his tackles were unassisted. He sounds like a good sub for Marcus or Rocky should they need to go out.

As far as signing another receiver. THEY ONLY HAVE TWO at this point.

1. Santana Moss.
2. James Thrash.

The rest all pretty underachieved last year.

That is why I would be interested to see what they do IF or maybe WHEN Priest Holmes is released. He sounds like another
Gary Clark. They could use a Gary Clark right about now.

Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Also, I think the blog has gone overboard on Jack. The guy can't catch a break and has been sufficiently chastised into discussing matters with a MUCH more reasonable tone. Props to Jack for his durability in the face of a blistering blog response that has made him the inadvertent effigy representing all negativers.

Posted by: dcsween | August 21, 2007 4:19 PM | Report abuse

"DON"T HAVE SAMUELS IN....YOU IDIOTS. You put Samuels in with Pucillo, Rabach, Thomas and Jansen and 3 games into the season Portis will hit holes the size of some of your egos.

RELAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

AND YOU'LL HAVE 2, count 'em NOW. TWO HIGH QUALITY backups for Jasen and Samuels in Wade and Heyer.

Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 4:20 PM | Report abuse

" ... That is why I would be interested to see what they do IF or maybe WHEN Priest Holmes is released. He sounds like another
Gary Clark. ...."

Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 04:18 PM

Maybe that's what he sounds like, but he is one hit away from walking like another Christopher Reeves.

Posted by: dcsween | August 21, 2007 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Sween,
Ok, but I missed the Redcoat shabingus.
Wha happened?

Posted by: Stumped | August 21, 2007 4:23 PM | Report abuse

...IF or maybe WHEN Priest Holmes is released. He sounds like another
Gary Clark. They could use a Gary Clark right about now.

Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 04:18 PM

A soon to be 34 year old running back with a bad neck. How's that like another Gary Clark (WR)?

Posted by: 4-12 | August 21, 2007 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Stumped, I remember some dustup, and then I read about how Redcoat was going to take a few days off, but beyond that I don't remember much -- you know, having the attention span of a hamster on the booger sugar and all.

Posted by: dcsween | August 21, 2007 4:26 PM | Report abuse

I always get a kick out of it when the loyal JLaC followers come out and take offense to someone who critisizes this blog. They usually always come with the quote of "aren't you getting your moneys worth", "its a free blog", or my favorite "Jason does this for free and out of his own time".

Well, while people don't pay for this blog, make no mistake about it, the Washington Post makes money from it. Just look at this page as I'm typing. Across the top there is a Ford add and on the top right there is a Radio Shack/Sprint add. The more hits the website gets, the more money they are able to generate from the advertising on this site, thus the more money The Post makes, thus more money to pay Jason when his contract comes up for renewal. Do you think Cyn keeps track of the hit numbers for fun? And if Jason were able to get out of doing this blog, someone else would surely take his place.

Just as Jason can be critical of the team for issues he believes they've mistaken with, so too does every blogger have the right to be critical with Jason or the blog itself for posting a guest blog on a busy day as the season approaches or an incessant harping on an OL problem.

Posted by: TheGuru10 | August 21, 2007 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Sween,

The skins aren't signing "older guys" without cause. The release of Marshall effectively means they are happy enough with Dallas Sartz. They are very happy with HB Blades at middle linebacker. That's 2 young guys on special teams. There is still Khary Campbell the penultimate special team guy. So, really they are adding some experience along the lines of a Fletcher to help the younger guys along. There is Trucks and Jones as well.

Godfrey provides a bit of a transition for them. If Mac or Marcus Washington go out they know they can replace them with someone who can handle the pressure.

Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 4:29 PM | Report abuse

TheGuru10, yeah right ... and the next thing your gonna tell us is that Dan Snyder is making money off $9 beers, fan parking at training camp, and replica jerseys.

Posted by: dcsween | August 21, 2007 4:31 PM | Report abuse

how "inside" is a guest blog by some schmo?

Posted by: insider? | August 21, 2007 4:32 PM | Report abuse

I didn't catch all of it but one day the insults we're a flyin' & Redcoat had enough...

I've caught a few in here, but no sweat off my back. s'just a blog & people bein'...people.

Posted by: Dik | August 21, 2007 4:33 PM | Report abuse

"Guys, Marshall will be 31 years old this season. He's not a young guy that you are developing. He's in the twilight of his career. ...."

Posted by: TheGuru10 | August 21, 2007 01:10 PM

... which explains why he was cut in order to make room for Randall Godfrey.

Posted by: dcsween | August 21, 2007 4:34 PM | Report abuse

On Godfrey:

San Diego decided to withdraw their free agent tender because they drafted his replacements. That's a really cocky head coach there ...
good ol' Norv. The guy had FOUR sacks. FOUR just last year and 59 tackles 49 unassisted. That is indeed an arrogant defense and coaching staff when you cut someone who had FOUR sacks.

Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Periculum...u rock dude

Posted by: Jeff Wilson | August 21, 2007 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Yeah I would say 13 TDs and still being one of the 2 most feared recievers in the NFL makes him washed up. The redskins could use some washed up players like him since he caught more TDs last year than all of the recievers combined. Terry Glenn is another one that is washed up right?

Just because they play for the Cowboys doesn't mean you have to make silly comments like that.

I will give credit to the redskins that deserve it such as Samuels, MWashington, Springs, Cooley, Fletcher---all good players

Posted by: Jerry Jones | August 21, 2007 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Peri - who know's what he was going to count against SanD's cap this year...

Posted by: Dik | August 21, 2007 4:39 PM | Report abuse

TheGuru10, yeah right ... and the next thing your gonna tell us is that Dan Snyder is making money off $9 beers, fan parking at training camp, and replica jerseys.
Posted by: dcsween | August 21, 2007 04:31 PM

What does that have to do with the Post making money on this blog? Of course Snyder is going to charge those things. I missed it, is there a team giving away free jerseys, free beer and free parking? He also puts that money back into the team. Now, if he does is correctly is a matter of opinion and I wouldn't argue that, but he does it. And b/c of that we all have the right to be critical of him for his management decisions. The same way we all have a right to be critical if The Post's blog content isn't something we like.

"Guys, Marshall will be 31 years old this season. He's not a young guy that you are developing. He's in the twilight of his career. ...."

Posted by: TheGuru10 | August 21, 2007 01:10 PM

... which explains why he was cut in order to make room for Randall Godfrey.

Posted by: dcsween | August 21, 2007 04:34 PM

He wasn't cut to make room for Godfrey. We needed depth at OLB regardless. Marshall played the last 2 years in the middle and wasn't showing the speed to get upfield or back into coverage at OLB. If you want to talk about making room for someone, Marshall was cut to make room for Blades. Marshall was peciled in at 2 on the depth chart at MLB. They saw something in Blades and Marshall wasn't going to stick around as the 3rd MLB that they couldn't move to the outside unless someone saw something I didn't out of Marshall at OLB in the 2 exhibition games to show me he could make the switch back outside.


Posted by: TheGuru10 | August 21, 2007 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Jerry Jones, agreed it was a silly comment. Sorry. Keenan McCardell was the only guy I could think of who was still playing and had been in the league as long as T.O. ... was looking for comparables. No one really compares to T.O., however, in dropping the balls thrown and general level of "self confidence" so years in the league was the best I could do.

Posted by: dcsween | August 21, 2007 4:45 PM | Report abuse

sorry did someone say Priest Holmes is like Gary Clark? That is the most incomprehensible comment I've ever heard. Do like soccer and just pretend to watch football? How in the world is a short old running back anything like a fast, tall, skinny, WIDE RECEIVER? Notice I said WIDE RECEIVER cause they don't even play the same position...... also it was reported today that there is a 60-70% chance that Holmes sends the season on the IR, but nothing has ever been said about him being released and even if he was, he is a RUNNING BACK, and wouldn't help our WIDE RECEIVERS.

Posted by: Jack | August 21, 2007 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Terrel Owens, meet the Reaper.

...now that he doesn't have to worry about 'Deep Choke' Archu-tetas

Posted by: Dik | August 21, 2007 4:46 PM | Report abuse

"POSTED 3:12 p.m. EDT; UPDATED 3:59 p.m. EDT, August 21, 2007

CAT FIGHT IN NEW YORK

Giants quarterback Eli Manning, previously believed to have the personality of a mop bucket, apparently is changing.

And former teammate Tiki Barber could be the guy who brings it out of him.

During his Sunday night debut on NBC's football coverage, Tiki correctly questioned Eli's leadership skills, explaining that Eli was awkward and uncomfortable while addressing a room full of veterans such as Barber, Michael Strahan, and Jeremy Shockey.

Well, Eli has responded. It's not quite fire-and-brimstone material but, for Eli Milquetoast, it's a start:

"I guess I could have questioned his leadership skills last year with calling out the coach and having articles about him retiring in the middle of the season and [how] he's lost the heart," Manning said, according to Mike Garafolo of the Newark Star-Ledger. "As a quarterback, you're reading your running back has lost the heart to play the game and it's about the 10th week. Well, I could see that a little bit at times."

Rrrrrowwww.

"

That's one team in dis-aray........

Posted by: 4th via PFT.com | August 21, 2007 4:50 PM | Report abuse

In San Diego's 3-4 D, Godfrey (and Donnie Edwards) were inside linebackers.

On the WaPo making money off the hits, I'm not sure I see your point about why that makes JLaC's typos/bias (still uncompensated) any more problematic.

Also, I think CynCyty does count the posts for fun ... that and because MV Dame does (for fun). Most of the late night blather to drive up the thread count is for fun. Also, until you mentioned it, I had no idea who the advertisers were. The RI bloggers don't really have the attention span for advertising (and the number of posts on any particular thread usually means the ads are only in the periphery of vision when you read the starting post).

Posted by: dcsween | August 21, 2007 4:51 PM | Report abuse

sween- It looks like sarcasm is lost on he who calls himself guru.

Posted by: 4-12 | August 21, 2007 4:52 PM | Report abuse

jack- Yeah, I questioned periculum's Holmes=Clark statement earlier. Perhaps he was joking, and humor is lost on he who calls himself 4-12

Posted by: 4-12 | August 21, 2007 4:53 PM | Report abuse

I don't know how you compare Priest Holmes to Gary Clark either.

Although, Jack, Gary Clark was hardly a tall, skinny receiver. He was only about 5'9".

Posted by: Rusty | August 21, 2007 4:55 PM | Report abuse

The more views and posts by JLaC = more chances of peolpe clicking on an ad.

I have clicked on maybe 2 ads since I have been here. Only because couriosity, though.

How long have blogs been around? I just found out about them last year.....

Posted by: 4th | August 21, 2007 4:57 PM | Report abuse

" been said about him being released and even if he was, he is a RUNNING BACK, and wouldn't help our WIDE RECEIVERS."

Dear SJK Jack.

What an SJK-ing idiot. GEE WHAT WAS ART MONK? A RECEIVER? No he was a running back at Syracuse. Who the SJK was Joe Washington. He caught a lot of passes for Joe Gibbs. AND that whole H-BACK concept where the SJK do you think that came from? Coverting fast backs in to receivers. AND since when was Gary Clark tall? He was shorter than Art Monk who just around SIX FOOT. Bobby Mitchell was a hall of fame running back who became a receiver.

LET'S SEE WHO WERE THE H-BACKS? Hmmm?

JOE SJK-ing Washington coming from the colts. (An HB originally.)
KELVIN SJK-ing BRYANT A RUNNING BACK!!!
There there came the more "traditional" H-BACK. Not really a
tight end, big enough to block so almost more of a running back.

The point is the guy knows the system. He made the system one one of the most productive in the NFL almost single handedly. I think he could come here and catch passes since that was his forte' in Kansas City.


Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 4:59 PM | Report abuse

every roster upgrade makes the team stronger even if its a move toward a reserve linebacker and keeping a younger backer or two along with... I agree with periculum on most things except his insistance on priest holmes becomming a wr... not happening

Posted by: Old School | August 21, 2007 5:02 PM | Report abuse

"On the WaPo making money off the hits, I'm not sure I see your point about why that makes JLaC's typos/bias (still uncompensated) any more problematic. "

Posted by: dcsween | August 21, 2007 04:51 PM

Your making my point. I have no problem with his bias or his typos(that people complain about that is ridiculous IMO but their right). What I do have a problem with is people chastising others if they don't agree with his "bias"/opinion and using the justification that he's doing it for free so you should just agree with him attitude. If he doesn't agree with the Skins he can comment on it. If we don't agree with him we can comment on it. That's what a blog is isn't it? Why should someone be told they shouldn't disagree with him or the blogs content?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 21, 2007 5:02 PM | Report abuse

I gotta get this off my chest. Journalists report on teams and they report what they see and what the evidence tells them will probably happen. They're not supposed to be fans or haters. I'm so tired of people jumping on J-La (and on me for that matter even though I'm not a journalist I am trying to be realistic about this team) for simply stating the obvious and what it likely means. That's not negativity, that's realism. What do you guys want? Just for J-la to say....."Ummm, another great practice today for the best team in football. Everybody looks great, the Skins look like they have the best players at every position and are shoe-ins to win the Super Bowl."

The fact is we're playing a kid at LT that not a single team in the league including us picked in the draft, wait maybe that was our strategy we knew he was so super talented that we didn't want to draft him so we could surprise everyone. Maybe he'll turn into a great player, maybe not, but I don't want him blocking the blind side of my young inexperienced anointed franchise QB after 1 freaking training camp going up against all the defensive line studs on the Redskins roster. And next to him we have a converted tackle who was cut by the Houston Texans, that's right, one of the worst teams in the league cut this guy and we are trying to start him out of position, and our other option is a backup at best center converted to guard also. Folks, it isn't being negative to say this is really bad, and very dangerous for JC, that's just the truth.

Do we have some bright spots on the roster? Absolutely! Our Defense looks great, JC, Moss, and Cooley are making the passing game look great and we have two good running backs. However, all that falls apart if we can't block anybody and right now it doesn't look like we can. If and when Samuels comes back at full strength our pass protection should improve, but the truth is, LG will still be a problem and Jansen looks like he is regressing. All that is, is the truth. Sorry if you can't handle it.

Posted by: Jack | August 21, 2007 5:03 PM | Report abuse

I'd kind of been hoping that Lemar Marshall would have been thrown in on a trade deal -- a proverbial ham sandwich -- in a trade package that would land a guard, like some team's #3 guard/center insert. Still doesn't make sense to me why they cut him now.

Posted by: dcsween | August 21, 2007 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Just as Jason can be critical of the team for issues he believes they've mistaken with, so too does every blogger have the right to be critical with Jason.

Posted by: TheGuru10 | August 21, 2007 04:26 PM

Everyone has the right to do anything including to respond to the whiners. This stuff about "you aren't good enough for me" is tiresome. The blog is what it is, and we accept it this way. We're not interested in altering it to suit the whiners. Get over it.

Posted by: KK | August 21, 2007 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Guru (if you are the 5:02 post), I agree. I didn't know peeps were jumping down your throat for disagreeing with Jasno. Seems like almost everyone disagrees with him at some point ... and normally, the disagreement is embraced, discussed, repeated, summarized, lathered, rinsed, repeated, etc., ad nauseum. [anything to drive up the threadcount. wink wink]

Posted by: dcsween | August 21, 2007 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Perriculum, I don't even really know what to say to you. I think your the only person on the planet who would think that signing Priest Holmes and playing him at WR or even HBack would be a good idea. Holmes wouldn't even think its a good idea. I just can't say anything else on that matter, the depth of your stupidity makes continued conversation on the subject impossible.

Posted by: Jack | August 21, 2007 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Too bad about Marshall..he was a feel good story...but that don't win games, does it?

And since we're talkin' bout keepin players...can we PLEEEEAAASSSEEE sign Cooley already!!!???

Posted by: Waiting Since '92 | August 21, 2007 5:10 PM | Report abuse

One. Two. Three. PILE ON JACK! Just kidding.

Btw and seeking clarification, per Jack's post at 5:03pm, does the term "freaking" warrant the use of SJK?

Posted by: dcsween | August 21, 2007 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Periculum

I think you are confusing third down back joe w, kelvin b, with h-back didder, clint cooley, terry orr...like i said i agree with on on some things except priest holmes as a wr and the whole h-back, third down back thing.... we are good other than that. don't forget charley taylor....those guys were rb's for a year or two then converted to wr....but that was like 30/40yrs ago and neither had a seriouis neck injury in between....our recievers are ok....we will find 5 for the season

Posted by: Old School | August 21, 2007 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Since they're my kids I'll say no.

Posted by: Jack | August 21, 2007 5:12 PM | Report abuse

periculum- I love what you write up here. You got some funny stuff. But Priest Holmes, with a bad neck, can not simply become a WR at age 34. Monk (6'3" BTW) was converted at age 22, straight out of college, and healthy. The H-Back, as it existed under the Gibbs offense, is no more. Saunders doesn't have an H-Back.

Posted by: 4-12 | August 21, 2007 5:14 PM | Report abuse

I think Peri misspoke himself when he said Gary Clark. I think he meant Kelvin Bryant.

Posted by: RMilot | August 21, 2007 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Jack, is it OK when your kids call someone "stupid"? Ad hominem (personal) attacks are not in the spirit of the RI blog. I think you owe us all an apology (or, at least, your kids).

Also to Jack and Guru10, regarding the past 4 hours of your life ... can you honestly say that, as much as you want that time back, you felt SUPER smart and you blogged your GUTS OUT? On behalf of Nate in the PDX, welcome to the RI!

Posted by: dcsween | August 21, 2007 5:16 PM | Report abuse

"Since they're my kids I'll say no.


Posted by: Jack | August 21, 2007 05:12 PM

"

Hopefully your Kids don't read that.........

Posted by: 4th | August 21, 2007 5:17 PM | Report abuse

"I think you are confusing third down back joe w, kelvin b, with h-back didder, clint cooley, terry orr..."

No I'm not. After Joe Washington was traded Gibbs acquired Kelvin Bryant to do what Joe was doing. Riggins was the feature back. Those two would come in mostly on passing downs. THEN, AFTER BRYANT we see them using ORR and DIDIER. Looking for someone with a larger frame for blocking on running plays while still catching the ball.

It all started with Joe Washington.

Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Based on what he did to the Redskins in their last game with him in 2005 I would think Priest Holmes would make a fine receiver.

Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 5:18 PM | Report abuse

DO YOU REMEMBER WE WERE FLYING ALONG AND HIT PRIEST HOLMES AND AL SAUNDERS IN THE AIR ....

Caught five passes for 100 yards with a 60-yard TD vs. Washington (10/16), marking the third-longest catch of his career. It was his fifth 100-yard receiving day with Kansas City, tying RB Abner Haynes for first in team history for running backs ...

Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 5:21 PM | Report abuse

oh and one more thing about the h-back... one LT has a much to do with that as anyone, Joe created the one back two tight end (H)hybrd -back to block the NFL's greatest SKGING defender one LAWRENCE TAYLOR....so we are still good on everything except the whole preist to wr and h-back / third down back and the origin of the h-back....

Posted by: Old School | August 21, 2007 5:21 PM | Report abuse

dcsween, I appreciate your input, but I've been called so many names on this blog its not even funny, and my kids are smart enough to understand that there are stupid people in this world, I mean, they've had George W. for president in their formative years so they realize they exist. And I'm not going to apologize for calling a guy stupid who called me an idiot in his previous post while telling me Priest Holmes would be a good WR. That is stupid and should be so labeled. And after the abuse I've taken for stating my opinions just like eveyone else on hear, I'm not going to apologize to anyone. I've never cussed anyone on this blog and I've been cussed more times than I can count, and will be again right after this post I'm sure, so don't ask me to apologize for calling a stupid person stupid.

Posted by: Jack | August 21, 2007 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Joe Washington, and Kelvin Bryant were 3rd down backs. HUGE difference between a RB coming out of the backfield to catch a ball and a WR running a route downfield.

Posted by: 4-12 | August 21, 2007 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Peri

I think Preist Holmes would make a great third down back like (kelvin or Joe W) back in the day but he is not comming here...he will be lucky if he plays again period

Posted by: Old School | August 21, 2007 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Holmes can come in as an LG or LT too.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 21, 2007 5:26 PM | Report abuse

redskinetts signed Randall godfrey whos old and put himm next to fletcher who also is old and playing LB 20 yrs between them is recipe for injured reserve!

Posted by: ALL retirees looking for work call COACH JOE | August 21, 2007 5:26 PM | Report abuse

DO YOU REMEMBER WE WERE FLYING ALONG AND HIT PRIEST HOLMES AND AL SAUNDERS IN THE AIR ....

DOH, does anyone here actually watch games and read statistics?
DOUBTFUL.

Caught five passes for 100 yards with a 60-yard TD vs. Washington (10/16), marking the third-longest catch of his career. It was his fifth 100-yard receiving day with Kansas City, tying RB Abner Haynes for first in team history for running backs ...

JOE Washington and Kelvin Bryant were not just 3rd down backs. They were H-backs. Part of the reason for the conversion to the slower, larger blocking H-backs like Orr and Didier was because of linebackers and fast DE's like Taylor and Bruce Smith among others. Bryant was a superlative blocker. As was Riggins.

Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Okay,

Let's all agree to;
1) no name calling,
2) no cussing, except for the use of SJK (I don't swear, but its an RI staple now)
3) respecting the opinions of others (no matter how stupid or idiotic) and use facts and reason whenever possible.

Posted by: Stumped | August 21, 2007 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Holmes can come in as an LG or LT too.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 21, 2007 05:26 PM

SCSkins!! ROFL yeah, I think he can play SLB too. He sounds a lot like a young Arrington to me. I don't care that he is a RB, he probably played LB in Pop Warner!

Posted by: Jack | August 21, 2007 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Dude. I remember the long TD Holmes had. On a short pass out of the backfield, where several guys missed tackles. Again, to line up wide, at age 34, with a bad neck...it ain't happening.

Posted by: 4-12 | August 21, 2007 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Do you remember that one game where Trent Green threw and INT, Holmes put one great form tackle on the guy, do any of you guys watch football or read statisics, he has never missed a tackle! He'd be awesome at linebacker for us!

Posted by: Jack | August 21, 2007 5:33 PM | Report abuse

respectfully stumped....f that....

i curse but i don't use SJK...and i like jack.....

and fightin, and scrapin is part of the RI fun! I liked redcoat azs much as any brit.....but he was a wuss bag for not being able to deal with the typist wrasslin....i mean he was a dolphins fan already, hardly the definition of tough......

Posted by: chris Larry | August 21, 2007 5:33 PM | Report abuse

"he will be lucky if he plays again period"

He passed the physical? So, why not here? Just like B. Mitchell he really shouldn't be running the ball. BUT HE COULD catch passes and be a helluva a lot more productive than THE RECEIVER. Why not here since he knows the system and mindset of Saunders?

People, R U SLEEPING out there? Randle EL IS A CONVERTED quarterback. HE IS listed as the #2. NOW WE CONVERT A HB WHO ACTUALLY CATCHES PASSES and used to get into the REDZONE on regular basis. WHO WOULD WANT OUT THERE CATCHING the BALL? The 2005 version of Priest Holmes or Randle El?

I think I would try to see what Priest could do.

Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Jack, to each his own, just trying to play vice deputy sheriff of Mayberry (not my role anyway).

Of the WRs on the Skins roster, no one is over 200 pounds (and none is sporting a neck brace). Priest Holmes is listed as 213 pounds. Admittedly, weight and injury history are not statistics, but LJ did just sign with the Chiefs today so, assuming the Skins don't move to sign ANOTHER running back who played for Saunders (w/Blaylock and Dee Brown, maybe third time's a charm), let the record reflect that MOST of the blog will be eating crow when some other team picks up the WR of the future for their #3 wideout.

Posted by: dcsween | August 21, 2007 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Sween - Lathered, Rinsed, repeated and threadcount. You reminded me I need to wash my sheets. Thanks. ;)

Posted by: TheGuru10 | August 21, 2007 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Stumped,

The only one doing the name-calling up here in the RI is JLC, calling out Elfin as "Day Late Dave"!

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 21, 2007 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Priest Holmes says he is ready. The doctors say he can play. Larry Johnson is coming back now. Priest dissed "the Larry". Priest gets cut.

NOW, why not spin the wheel of fortune? Maybe you come up with another weeener? No?

Posted by: Anonymous | August 21, 2007 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Stumped, I'd love it if that were possible, but face, there are too many people on here who don't care cause it's just a computer and not face to face. I've been cussed so many times and finally I just decided to let it go because it is just a computer.

Posted by: Jack | August 21, 2007 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Also to Jack and Guru10, regarding the past 4 hours of your life ... can you honestly say that, as much as you want that time back, you felt SUPER smart and you blogged your GUTS OUT? On behalf of Nate in the PDX, welcome to the RI!

Posted by: dcsween | August 21, 2007 05:16 PM

It's only because I'm a really conscientious guy!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 21, 2007 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Priest of 2005? Sounds good .....uh......no, wait ....oh yeah it's 2007

Posted by: vegasskin | August 21, 2007 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Wow, my respect for this blog is gone. I mean really? Holmes at WR? First of all, he's most likely paying the season on the PUP list, but let's just say he does get cut, there is nobody in the world who would play him at WR!!!!!!! he is no longer very fast, he's not big, and he hasn't run routes in who knows how long.....catching a swing pass out of the backfield and breaking it isn't the same as being a WR! And besides, if we want to experiment, let's try the Reaper or CP split out, not a 34 year old washed up RB who hasn't played in 3 years because of a broken neck!!!! Come on people!!!!

Posted by: Jack | August 21, 2007 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Periculum,
I don't understand your weird obsesion w/ Priest Holmes as a WR. I meen it could maybe work, but seeing as the guy is old, coming off a catastrophic injury, and he has never played the position it seems like a longshot. I don't see how you can be so convinced this would work.

Jack,
I find that I agree on a point by point basis with alot of what you post, but on the whole the tone in witch you write it makes me want to throat-chop you. It seems like every post from you is aggressivly pessimistic, as well as leaving no room for even the possiblity of a different point of view

Posted by: SonicJones | August 21, 2007 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Long time no post. (working for the time being). I feel bad for 98 for getting cut, I care more because it removes the chances of doing a deadly 4-4 or 3-4 combo. The guy was a good OLB. But I am sure Rocky will be better.

I don't get ripping on Gg this early in the preseason, as his D has yet to let up a touchdown, no other team can say that. The only other team to allow less points per game is Baltimore, 16 (Washington 18). If the points get racked up by MIA and the Iggs, once the season starts, then by all means rip the guy a new one.

I like everyone am worried about the offencive production, why can't Gibbs score more then 21 points?


There is one more different problem I have, and that is the fact that I saw more Steelers fans in the stadium last game then Skins fans. We need to stop letting outsiders into the damn stadium. Maybe we are losing so damn many games because have the fans root for the other team. 100,000 people don't matter if 45,000 of them are for the other team.

Posted by: 35332 | August 21, 2007 5:42 PM | Report abuse

redskinettes will be in last place again and all of us who look at this team with a little COMMON SENSE which most of you have NONE,will not want to jump at the end of another PATHETIC season!U overblown fans should jump so we can have a fan base that wont put up with losing since 1991!

Posted by: learn Xs & Os dcsween u WANNA B | August 21, 2007 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 21, 2007 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Yeah!!!! What Jack said

And people complain about the FO on this blog?

Posted by: vegasskin | August 21, 2007 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Sonic, thanks I think. I agree, I am generally pessimistic about this team right now, and I think I have pretty good reasons for why, but I must say I'm feeling a lot better about the D than earlier this offseason. But as to your point that I express myself in a way that leaves no counter point avalable. Maybe your right, but I think that most people on hear blog that way, I think its just that I think this is a mediocre team and people don't want to hear that cause they're delusional.

Posted by: Jack | August 21, 2007 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Right on about Jon Jansen. Most overpaid football player. What gripes me is he's on all these talk shows talking like a real contributor to the offense when in fact he's a huge liability.

Posted by: dcfred | August 21, 2007 5:48 PM | Report abuse

This "insiders" blog is what we thought it was.....AND WE LET IT OFF THE HOOK.

If you wanna crown 'em, then crown their asses.

Posted by: Denny Green | August 21, 2007 5:48 PM | Report abuse

OH NO JACK HAS LOST RESPECT FOR THE BLOG!!!

Dude its just people chewin on stuff, make arguements, get dirty, mixin it up, I dig your passion Jack but you need some Xanax and a belt of your namesake!

Posted by: chris Larry | August 21, 2007 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Lol,

and some typing lessons apparently, I don't tipe su guud.

Posted by: Jack | August 21, 2007 5:53 PM | Report abuse

"And besides, if we want to experiment, let's try the Reaper or CP split out, not a 34 year old washed up RB who hasn't played in 3 years because of a broken neck!!!! Come on people!!!!"

Its only been a year and one half Jack. You don't know what the guy can or can't do unless you let him try. KC is unwilling to do that. Someone else will I am almost certain as long as the doctors
give their consent. And they already have in KC.

So, why not here? Why not him instead of Pinkston or Corey Bradford? Those guys have both been out for over a year too. On the PUP. Bradford is around Holme's age. What's the difference? You don't complain about those guys? And let's look at their statistics before injuries and Priest Holmes. WHO WOULD YOU WANT to give a whirl?

Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Are you people trashing the blog?!? The only reason the Skins went 5-11 last year was because other teams sent their scouts to the RI blog and learned all of our team's secrets and weaknesses!!!

Posted by: bloglover | August 21, 2007 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Look at it this way. The D looks alot closer to 2005 than 2006 at this point. The O has not had a reasonable facsimile of the starting line on the field yet and CP hasn't dressed yet. At several points at the end of last season they looked Goooooood only to have the D collapse. Combione those facts with the Defense is usually ahead of the Offense at this stage of the preseason and I like our chances.

Posted by: vegasskin | August 21, 2007 5:54 PM | Report abuse

From The Houston Chronicle about last night's Nats/Astros game:

The biggest excitement happened in the stands when a fan failed in his public attempt at popping the question.
With the couple highlighted on the big screen, the mood soured after the man took a knee to offer an engagement ring. Wearing a brick-red replica Astros jersey, the woman appeared to angrily dump a bag of popcorn on the man before rushing up the stairs amid a chorus of boos.


LMGO! Tickets, $30. Replica jersey, $120. Diamond ring, $5,000. Girlfriend humiliates you and says NO!, PRICELESS!!!!

Posted by: 4-12 | August 21, 2007 5:54 PM | Report abuse

FINALLY RIGHT NOW on the sidelines watching Priest HOLMES is probably a better receiver than the Reaper and CP. Neither of whom are very good at it. That said not many on the redskins are outside of Thrash and Santana Moss.

Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 5:55 PM | Report abuse

FINALLY RIGHT NOW on the sidelines watching Priest HOLMES is probably a better receiver than the Reaper and CP. Neither of whom are very good at it. That said not many on the redskins are outside of Thrash and Santana Moss.

Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 5:55 PM | Report abuse

I'm out see you delusional fans tomorrow.

BTW, I may be pessimistic but I have missed a game in 11 years and won't this year I love too and I hope I'm wrong, it just doesn't happen that often......hahaha

Peri, your crazy, but you've convinced, I'm going home and trading for holmes in Madden and putting him at WR, I think he's the best available WR out there, really good idea!!!!!


Moron!

Posted by: Jack | August 21, 2007 5:56 PM | Report abuse

enough with the Priest thing. I went to catholic school and I know some priests who could probably line up at WR too. Let's give them a try they're probably only 80 years old now.

Posted by: vegasskin | August 21, 2007 5:58 PM | Report abuse

I really need to look up the stats on the Skins' SB years, including 1983-84, to prove that Gibb's offense is not just pounding the ball 65-75% of the time. Remember he's from the DON CORYELL coaching tree, and the most successful teams had EXPLOSIVE offenses that could hit big plays from anywhere on the field.

If Snyder yearned for the 'good ole' days' he'd hire a strong GM who made sure there was depth and quality on the O-line, which was THE STRENGTH of the 80's Skins. These players must simply execute: blockers block, receivers run routes and catch, runners hit holes and hold the ball, qb make the reads and hit the open man, lineman disrupt blocks, linebackers read and flow to the ball, db's cover, everybody tackles.

9-7 would be cool as long as they compete in every game for 4 quarters.

Posted by: adinasi | August 21, 2007 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Before I leave,

The 80s and NOW are Light years apart.

* They didn't have a Salary Cap
* They didn't have a 53 - man Roster. It was mor like 70. So you can have more depth and hide players for years.
* There was no free agency as we know it now.
* There are at least 4 new teams since the 80s, That's atleast 250 players right there.
* More teams fighting for the same # of players.

Get your SJKs out of the 80s and hop into the 00s.

True, Gibbs came from the Coryell tree. But, Gibbs also said you have to take on the personality of your division. And he said the NFC East is a Black and Blue division where you have to smash in the poer game. He knew this from his days in the 70s with the St. Louis (Football) Cardinals. Then he created the "CounterTrey"

Peace.

Posted by: 4th | August 21, 2007 6:07 PM | Report abuse

"Peri, your crazy, but you've convinced, I'm going home and trading for holmes in Madden and putting him at WR, I think he's the best available WR out there, really good idea!!!!!
Moron!"

Screw Madden Strat-o-matic was better. Gee Jack and you're okay with Corey Bradford and Pinkston... AND DIDN'T THEY JUST make yet another MORONIC WR signing? WHY?

IDIOT I think they would be better off trying Holmes than Pinkston, Bradford and all the rest. They need young guys for special teams and that is already set. ESPY was their last best hope. WHY NOT TRY-OUT Priest Holmes? Because if he did succeed the HORROR OF IT! I might actually be right?

You need to get rid of that OCD PD mentality dude.

Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 6:10 PM | Report abuse

" I went to catholic school and I know some priests who could probably line up at WR too. Let's give them a try they're probably only 80 years old now."

Posted by: vegasskin | August 21, 2007 05:58 PM

nah, I'd let your mother try first.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 21, 2007 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Long time reader, first time poster.

35332 [05:42p]: I saw more Steelers fans in the stadium last game then Skins fans. We need to stop letting outsiders into the damn stadium.

I don't think this is normally a problem during the regular season. At least it's not like the Missy when the Red Wings come to town.

Watching the game at home, it seemed like the microphone they were using for crowd noise was planted right next to this woman Steeler fan. She would yell "woooo!" like a loon everytime the Steelers caught a break. I was going to say "it got annoying as the game progressed", but that would imply that there was a time early on where it wasn't annoying.

Oh, and how about those two Heidi-esque pullaways to not one, but TWO commercials at critical moments in the game? Way to go ... you guys are Comcastic!

Posted by: Mike from Burke | August 21, 2007 6:23 PM | Report abuse

F SJK F SJK F SJK F SJK F SJK F SJK

Posted by: F SJK | August 21, 2007 6:27 PM | Report abuse

F Comcast!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | August 21, 2007 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Bit surprised by the cut, but not upset. I guess they're thinking that Marcus may miss a game or two, or at least be used sparingly when he comes back. Godfrey plays the same position, a Strong-Side Backer, who gets after the QB.

The arguement is that Marshall was versatile and could provide depth for all LB positions. But could he? Isn't he a little small to play strong side?

Maybe they're very happy with Blades and think he could back up Fletch, and they think Campbell/Sartz can cover for Rocky, but had no one of quality to play behind Marcus.

Posted by: kost52 | August 21, 2007 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Periculum - If Holmes was a good option at WR, don't you think the Chiefs would try him there? It's not like they're overloaded at WR. The guy is almost 34, and 5'9". He's not Reggie Bush.

Posted by: kost52 | August 21, 2007 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs ripped jason's article from today. He sounded pretty pissed about it.

Posted by: Uncle Spence | August 21, 2007 6:42 PM | Report abuse

I don't see why everyone is "shocked" or "upset" by Marshalls release..They just drafted two young LBs as well as Rocky who is really good last season...Signed LF....Have Washington....This move makes perfect since to me....Godfrey Is a better LB and regardless of age is bigger who can ALSO play all 3 LB spots.....

Marshall was sooo overrated by Skins fans....He over played and missed tons of tackles...If he was all that they would not have brought in LF or drafted what they did in two years....

He was expenable...They gave him another chance...Plus we have no idea whats going on behind closed doors....

I don't see a big deal at all....and I'd rather have Godfrey as a back up than marshall...

You guys freak over every single thing they do....damn man relax....They just made that LB core even better


Godfrey played for Willaims in Tenn....He knows the system!


Posted by: Anonymous | August 21, 2007 6:43 PM | Report abuse

"Periculum - If Holmes was a good option at WR, don't you think the Chiefs would try him there? It's not like they're overloaded at WR. The guy is almost 34, and 5'9". He's not Reggie Bush."

For all intents and purposes HOLMES HAD become the H-BACK of sorts under Saunder's system. With Larry Johnson filling the now classic role that John Riggins filled. So, he was in essence more of a receiver at that point. THEN Herm Edward's became coach and Saunders came here. Holmes hasn't played for Edward's yet.

He didn't make the transition. He never was in Herm Edward's plans. He isn't wanted. He isn't needed. So, why wouldn't Saunders perhaps convince Gibbs to let him come here for a tryout to see if he is physically there? Then proceed from there?
The injuries he suffered were serious enough to make many teams look askance at the guy. But players like linebackers and DBs have come back from similar injuries. I wouldn't let the guy run the ball ... but catching the ball ... and not being in on every down? Maybe?


Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Sportsnet just reported that Gibbs was HIGHLY upset with the Post article today and that he even stopped his presser to defend Stephon Heyer. He said afterwards they was a "missed assignment" or something like that and that it was not Heyer.

Posted by: Lisa | August 21, 2007 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Well, JLC met his goal of drawing attention to himself....

Sounds like Coach Gibbs is questioning Jasno's journalisitic integrity.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 21, 2007 7:15 PM | Report abuse

"Said offensive line guru Joe Bugel: 'Like I told Todd, we'll give him every opportunity. We pull no punches. If I feel like he can't play there, I'll tell him to go back to tackle. If I think he can do it in there, with no questions asked, than I'll keep him in there.' "

I think this comment by Bugel answers a lot of questions posed in this blog. Wade is not the definite starter at Guard. It is still an "experiment". He may return to tackle.

Its pretty clear that Heyer is being groomed as Samuel's backup Let's face it other than Wade, who is an admitted career RIGHT tackle, they've HAD NO OTHER alternative since the retirement of former HOG Ray Brown. Would Wade be able to handle Brunell's blind side (Brunell is a lefty.). I'm not sure. Obviously Wade has benefitted from the coaching he has received here as opposed to Charley Casserly's Houston Oilers.

IF BOTH WADE and HEYER become competent backups perhaps even more than competent THE TEAM WINS. Obviously they aren't going to be used much for special teams. SO HOW THE SJK ARE THEY GOING TO COME UP TO SPEED on the offense and become competent enough to step in? BY TAKING ADVANTAGE of the opportunity afforded by Samuel's injury to play both HEYER and WADE as well as Pucillo. To get that all thrashed out before the season begins in earnest.

JASON, ask your brilliant sources HOW THEY WOULD BEST develop a competent backup to an all-pro caliber left tackle like Samuel's? Wouldn't they play them in preseason games if there was an opportunity? IS JUST PRACTICE AND WALK-THRU'S and OTA's enough? IF THEY WANT TO 2nd GUESS BUGEL then find out HOW THEY WOULD DEVELOP competent backups?

THEN GIBBS can't say all the facts weren't put forth for the public as he inferred. Now its just a matter of apple's and oranges. The way Bugel, Saunders, and Gibbs are proceeding and the way your sources think it should be done. Then he
might end up arguing with himself.

Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 7:18 PM | Report abuse

From GFitz's column:

"Gibbs discussed the performance of Heyer and the offensive line in his post-practice comments on Tuesday.

Said Gibbs: There was a newspaper article [Tuesday] morning about Stephon, and I want to say that [article] was inaccurate. I don't know where the information came from.

"Stephon is a great story. He's a local guy who has started in place of a Pro Bowl player at left tackle and he against some real good pass-rushers. He has been outstanding.

"Over that period of time, [Heyer] has given up no sacks.

"So the information in there was totally inaccurate and it's important for me to say that if that happens, because I want our fans to know we want accurate information and we want accurate stories about our players."

Jasno....you are being called out as a fraud.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 21, 2007 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Let me repeat that, as my post came after another Periculum dissertation:

Jasno....you are being called out as a fraud.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 21, 2007 7:20 PM | Report abuse

"Well, JLC met his goal of drawing attention to himself....

Sounds like Coach Gibbs is questioning Jasno's journalisitic integrity."

Take the bull by the horns. Present all the facts. Let them speak for themselves. Let the anonymous sources tell us how to develop young O-lineman with potential. How would they get exposed to game like situations and scenarios? How would you fine tune Wade's skills? Teach and mentor Heyer? Armstrong? HOW WOULD THEY approach what appears to be a glaring depth problem for the Redskins?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 7:22 PM | Report abuse

"Let me repeat that, as my post came after another Periculum dissertation:

Jasno....you are being called out as a fraud."

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 21, 2007 07:20 PM

Those guys really don't like Jasno. They are after him again. Its not Jasno its his sources that Gibbs is really questioning.

Let them speak, anonymously then. Tell us how they would do it. How would they groom and develop a raw, but talented new left tackle? A left guard? How would they acquire talented depth ala the Eagles? What would they have done in the case of Derrick Dockery? Pay him? Or? As I recall Gibbs called signing Dockery the first and #1 task to accomplish in the off season. But he obviously asked too much ... more than their all-pro right guard makes. What would these experts do? What would they have done?

Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs further described Jasno's article as "nothing farther from the truth," "grossly inaccurate," and "...out of line."

Ouch.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 21, 2007 7:36 PM | Report abuse

If Game Stop doesn"t have it then go to Blockbuster my friend.It will be another looooonnnggggg season unfortunatly.

Posted by: biteme | August 21, 2007 7:38 PM | Report abuse

That's a good point, periculum. Gibbs is really after Jasno's sources, moreso thatn Jasno, but I think he questions the WaPo allowing that article to be released in the first place.

On the other hand, the WaPo has the right to publish whatever it wants, I guess.

I'm not sure what to think yet. At least it feeds this coked-up hampster for a bit.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 21, 2007 7:39 PM | Report abuse

"So the information in there was totally inaccurate and it's important for me to say that if that happens, because I want our fans to know we want accurate information and we want accurate stories about our players."---What? We want wins, playoffs, championships! Coach Joe should concern himself with on the field issues, not newspaper articles!

Posted by: nah | August 21, 2007 7:44 PM | Report abuse

whether the hit was specifically Heyor or Pucillo's fault is unimportant it was both and it was the result of having undertalented players trusted to guard the blindside of the franchise. There was no wild stunt or exotic blitz on that play. The LB showed blitz and backed off, and that confused the entire left side of our line. That's not that difficult a play!

Posted by: Jack | August 21, 2007 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Cutting Lemar Marshall was not so bad. Face it people...on a 5-11 team with the last place defense there shouldn't be any safe jobs. The Skins got a beast in London Fletcher and got some decent young talent...now what the hell do you guys want??? We got two LB's in the DRAFT!!! I guess it's called having a "great" organization when the Eagles cut Jeremiah Trotter, but when the Redskins cut a mediocre linebacker, we need a GM. It's Lemar Marshall not Wilbur Marshall.

Posted by: sicwidit | August 21, 2007 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Jack I thought you were leaving. Be gone already.

Posted by: TC | August 21, 2007 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Jack name me one NFL team that hasn't given up a sack in pre season. Vets on the line of a lot of teams have given up sacks. I really think people are coming down on the kid a little harsh. JLC is more boy but thought the article was a little mean spirited towards the kid.

Posted by: jm220 | August 21, 2007 7:51 PM | Report abuse

I don't wanna come down hard on him, he looks very promising to me, but it two games we've given up 8 sacks and not run the ball at all. We gave up 19 all season last year. I know, I know, Samuels will be back and everything will be ok. While I'm not sure everything will "be ok" it will be better. But we have got to get a guard.

And TC shut up.

Posted by: Jack | August 21, 2007 7:55 PM | Report abuse

PLEASE LET'S PUT THE FOLLOWING ISSUES TO REST!!!

1) Ryan Clark...he's gone...get over it!!! He's not the reason why the defense was ranked last.
2) Derrick Dockery...18 million for a guard....ridiculous.
3) Why is it that when the Redskins try to develop talent such as Heyer, people expect an All Pro...He's an undrafted rookie... Where's all that patience that everyone writes about when talking about "building" talent. Do we really have the patience???

Posted by: sicwidit | August 21, 2007 7:56 PM | Report abuse

We should have someone else at guard and be playing Wade at LT right now till samuels comes back.

Posted by: Jack | August 21, 2007 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Keep developing, I'm all for that just not when JC's in there, we should have decent protection for him or we shouldn't play him till we do.

Posted by: Jack | August 21, 2007 7:59 PM | Report abuse

I love all the "nfl executives" Jason uses to criticize the Redskins.

Posted by: TC | August 21, 2007 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Some of you here on the blog are worse than the Dan. Hell you cry about getting young talent then we get some. You they b (SJK) because he is not developing fast enough for them.

Posted by: jm220 | August 21, 2007 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Jack you should be a GM since you seem to have all the answers.

And its no wonder your so popular on here with the way you talk to people.

Posted by: TC | August 21, 2007 8:05 PM | Report abuse

I agree jm220.

Jack, if Heyer was consistently getting beaten 1 on 1 during a game, I'd agree that he's not working. The two sacks which have been given up on that side have been due to communication issues. Even if they started Wade at LT, or switched Jansen to LT, they are still players new to the position. Even if they had gone out and signed a star LG during the off-season, it's still 2 relatively new players lining up next to each other. There are bound to be issues. I think they've done remarkably well to have had issues only a couple of times. AS jm220 said, every team gives up sacks, even the great perennial Pro-bowlers. You take the starting LT out of any team, and their left side is automatically going to become more vulnerable.

Posted by: kost52 | August 21, 2007 8:05 PM | Report abuse

If y'all think 8 sacks in 2 games and no running game to speak of, while getting your young franchise quarterback hurt is doing remarkably well, then you are more delusional than I thought. Samuels will make a difference on the sacks, but we are still going to give up a lot more than last year and I would be surprised if we run the ball as well too. And I don't know how y'all feel, but I am just thrilled that our back up to Campbell is Todd Collins or Mark Brunel. It is very rare that anybody plays all 16 games in a year, we should have gone and gotten a decent backup and dumped Mark. You guys are right, I would love to be the GM, it doesn't take much intelligence to do better than the Redskins front office. Other than Detroit, Cleveland, Houston, and maybe the Raiders, we are by far the worst personnel organization in the league.

Posted by: Jack | August 21, 2007 8:13 PM | Report abuse

But you guys are probably right, it was a really good idea to not sign before he ever sniffed free agency, a good, young, nimble guard who started every game from day one, and then have no plan whatsoever to replace him, except to take a tackle and put him out of position then sign and draft no one as a back up plan in case that move didn't work. I might add that the tackle we used in this experiment was cut by the freaking Houston Texans. Wade looks very serviceable as a backup tackle and playing him at left tackle vs right tackle isn't as big of a switch as right tackle to left guard. If we had signed or drafted a decent guard, then still found heyer, then we could develop him on a much more reasonable time period than starting him against first stringers after one whole training camp of him practicing against the ridiculously talented defensive ends of the Redskins. I don't know about you, but signing and drafting a guard and then all of a sudden you have a real deep line doesn't seem like that complicated a move to me. Maybe I am wrong.

Posted by: Jack | August 21, 2007 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Once again Jack I don't understand how you cry about being called names when someone doesn't agree with you. Yet you call names yourself.

So, I guess when Palmer got hurt a couple years ago it was because of the lack of talent on the line or any other QB that has gotten hurt. Oh Really! LMGO

Posted by: jm220 | August 21, 2007 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Jack
You may be right but you're so damn annoying nobody cares what you think

Posted by: RI | August 21, 2007 8:25 PM | Report abuse

8 sacks isn't good enough, you're right. Either is the lack of success in the run game. I don't think anyone, on the blog, or in the organisation are happy with those results.

What we're saying is that not all the sacks have come from Heyer, and I don't think he should be a scape goat for the issues. You can't develop players without giving them playing time, and you learn more from competing against superior players than you do against inferior ones.

Posted by: kost52 | August 21, 2007 8:27 PM | Report abuse

So Jack you think we should have drafted a guard. Oh really. He would have to learn the game and would make mistake as well. Then you would SJK about that. Oh really. I really am starting to believe you just like to SJK.

Posted by: jm220 | August 21, 2007 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Jack, don't forget that Wade signed here, because he would be given an opportunity to start at LG. If he was only going to be a back-up, there's a big chance he wouldn't have re-signed.

Posted by: kost52 | August 21, 2007 8:29 PM | Report abuse

I like JLaC's writing and from everything I've read he seems like a great guy and I'd like to have a beer with him, but he gets too hung up on issues and can't let them go. It's 2007, Ryan Clark last played here in 2005. He wrote a season ending feature on Clark. Did we need another Clark article this weekend? Gibbs is right. You don't write that article knocking two players performance and stress the injury play when it wasn't Heyers fault and the film would have showed that. JLaC is a good writer but he's letting his personal agenda get in the way a little bit this year. Maybe it's the stress of being alone on the beat or maybe it's being on the beat too long.

Posted by: TheGuru10 | August 21, 2007 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Jack, since you think your opinion is right about EVERYTHING and you are negative as hell about EVERYTHING...why are you here? The rest of us obviously cannot contribute anything to you since we are so delusional.

Yes, things could be better but continually harping on every little thing is sooo annoying.

Posted by: Lisa | August 21, 2007 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Ok, so let me get this straight-it would have been an awful thing for a backup tackle to leave town if we didn't promise him the starting left guard job? Fine, Let him go and sign another backup tackle. And then, sign a decent guard at a more reasonable contract than Dockery and draft a young guard to begin grooming and then find Heyer like we did which was a good find and bring him along slowly. We seem to be the only team in the league that doesn't draft need positions in the late rounds and ignores the holes in our lineup in free agency. We like big names, flashy signings, and it seems like we want to take more pleasure out of proving everyone wrong than doing the right thing for the franchise. Every expert I have heard in the off season was very skeptical that we drafted or signed no one to replace Dockery and did nothing to upgrade our D-line. Right now, it looks like we were right in not worrying about the D-line, but in this case getting 1 out of the 2 major problems right has gotten us no running game and our QB hurt. I'm sorry, I am just not willing to give Gibbs and this front office a pass after 17 yrs of futility b/c Joe Gibbs won some Super Bowls a LONG time ago.

Posted by: Jack | August 21, 2007 8:39 PM | Report abuse

So Lisa, why are you here? Should we all just hold hands and sing "Hail to the Redskins"? and ignore that despite a very promising young core of players, our coaches/front office are arrogant, inept, and at times downright stupid and are ruining any chance we have of being legitimate contenders.

Posted by: Jack | August 21, 2007 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Once again Jack. We are not the only ones that got a QB hurt. Off the top of my head I can know of two teams. Why are you so damn negative all the time? Your parents didn't give you enough hugs when you were young? Not getting any from Mrs. Jack? Everyday it's nothing but negative comments from you.

Posted by: jm220 | August 21, 2007 8:44 PM | Report abuse

The thing about the "NFL executives" and "talent evaluators" that Jason quotes in his articles is that none of them has said anything more profound than what you can read here on RI.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Jason didn't just lift his quotes from RI and rather than give their true names -- vaherder, jack, jack off or whatever -- glorify them with "talent evaluator." Pretty weak journalism.

I used to be KK, but from now on, I'm the blogger known as "talent evaluator."

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 21, 2007 8:45 PM | Report abuse

I get plenty from Mrs. Jack and from Mrs. JM too! Don't go there man, that's not cool, if you can't handle reality fine but don't go personal like that.

Posted by: Jack | August 21, 2007 8:46 PM | Report abuse

You are getting some from Mrs. JM220. Oh really! Since I am single and don't have a Mrs. JM220 right now I hope she worth it. I don't think you whine like a b everyday ass don't want it to get personal. Don't let jokes and fun side fool you.

Posted by: jm220 | August 21, 2007 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Ummmm, did hurricane Dean jump to the pacific NW. That kid who posts like 10-15 times an hour is nowhere to be found?

Posted by: PG | August 21, 2007 8:52 PM | Report abuse

I got called out by Gibbs last year as well (i remember because i blogged about how i like to show my face around the park after i write a bad story) - secretly i want to be a ravens cheerleader but until that happens i'll trash the skins in my own objective journalistic way.

Posted by: Jasno's ego | August 21, 2007 8:53 PM | Report abuse

I don't really understand your last post there, but are you threatening me? Cause the only thing separating us is time and opportunity. Don't talk about my wife and then threaten me!

Posted by: Jack | August 21, 2007 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Could this blog have been any more negative? For God's sake, we haven't even played a game yet and Tommy wants to comdemn these guys already. I, for one, recognize that we have problems but I have to have hope that the Redskins will win games this season. What's the point of Tommy watching the Redskins this year at all? We have a hole in the O-line. Thats it. Thats our problem. But they are actually trying to fix the problem. Get off your fantasy soapbox and have some fun. Its a game, dude. Calm down and enjoy the season. You never know, it may not be all doom and gloom like you predicted.
I can't wait to get to the stadium 4 hours early and hang out with a bunch of friends drinking beer and grilling meat. I can't wait to sing Hail To The Redskins every time we score a touchdown. I can't wait to see the cheerleaders, sometimes through binoculars. I can't wait to just enjoy the season. Heads up lads. It will be a fun season. I know it.

Posted by: jm199.5 | August 21, 2007 8:55 PM | Report abuse

The only guard the Redskins brought in for a visit was Leonard Davis who got more money than Dockery. Other guys were getting signed for obscene amounts of money the Skins didn't have to spend. Diehlman, Steinbach, etc. This is what we got and are gonna have this year. 80% of our line is the same as last year. Hopefully Pucillo and/or Wade can gel with these guys in the next couple weeks.

Jack - commendable you look out for your kids in language they are subjected to. I hope you are teaching them to be a little more thick skinned and reasonable than you seem to be.

Posted by: cdubb | August 21, 2007 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Who is threatening you jack? Get some friends, get a dog, just get lost.

Posted by: RI | August 21, 2007 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Jack, I can see it now, we let Wade go in the offseason, and we sign another OT as a backup. Wade signs elsewhere and plays well. Samules goes down, and we play our new OT as a replacement. He yields a sack, and JC is injured long term. There are going to be two comments -

1) Why did we let Wade go, just another instance of this organisation letting go of talent which they could very easily mistake.

2) Why weren't they starting Heyer, how do they expect to develop quality young players if they don't play them.


This franchise has made some BIG mistakes in the past. Don't assume that all the decisions they make NOW, are mistakes as well.

Posted by: kost52 | August 21, 2007 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Oooh! Jack and JM220 gonna have a fight. Let's get some Coors and watch this -- it's gonna be good.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 21, 2007 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Jack, I like your view points. I like what you have to say and could not agree with you more on leaving JC out of the lineup until they figure out this O-line.

I hardly ever agree with Lisa and JM220. But Sir you should watch your tone. Calling people "moron" isn't going to do anything but get people in the bad mood. JM220 shouldn't have said what he said either regarding your sex life but I think it was your tone towards others (like Lisa) that got him all rilled up.

And please don't change your handle. We are a very forgiving bunch. and you'll make many friends up here with your insight. and plus how in the world are we going to explain SJK if you leave!

sincerely,
littery

Posted by: littery | August 21, 2007 9:00 PM | Report abuse

"whether the hit was specifically Heyor or Pucillo's fault is unimportant it was both and it was the result of having undertalented players trusted to guard the blindside of the franchise."

Again the problem with this sort of finger pointing ignores the real problem. Its a new offensive line. In pass protection there is a great deal more footwork and choreography involved than many suspect. Try learning to dance, to lead multiple partners while doing complicated patterns and you may get the gist of it. For all we know it was the center's fault, perhaps he didn't give the right call. There was "a handoff" discussed between Pucillo and Heyer. Pucillo is more of a center than a guard. That means he isn't the best at pulling or with handoffs. And then there is chemistry. Knowing when to release a block, knowing when to pick a blitzer up or when to let the other guy do his job and pick that blitzer up.

Gibbs is absolutely right there. What HE TOOK STRONG EXCEPTION to was the notion that Heyer was still too "raw". That Heyer didn't get his but down low enough for leverage. The same was said for converted tackle Wade. Now you are critiquing technique without revealing the source. And then that point is followed by the experts' clincher. That you are unnecessarily risking the franchise QB.

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[ NOTE TO SELF: I WILL NOT GET ANGRY WITH EXPERT CRETINS with the intelligence of a GRAPE who claim to know best when they BELIEVE IN THE OBSOLETE 50's-80's CONCEPT of a FRANCHISE QB. For our franchise that went out the window when LT joined the Giants and our team had to play against him TWICE. I WILL NEVER FORGET the SHOCK and HOROOR WE ALL EXPERIENCED (AND ESPECIALLY LT HIM HIMSELF!!) WHEN franchise QB Joe Theismann's leg was snapped like a MATCHSTICK by LT. FRANCHISE QB's CANNOT WORK IN TODAY'S NFL, PERIOD.] End of prosetylizing.

NOTE TO JASON: THE RAVENS won the super bowl with who at QB?

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hen Jason committed the final, and worst faux pas in Joe Jackson Gibb's eyes. He claimed that these opinions were quietly supported by people inside the Redskin's organization!

My dear inscrutable, and deep in the wisdom of the ages, unassailable experts,

WHO DO YOU PUT IN PLACE OF SAMUEL'S AT LEFT TACKLE? Jansen? He got run over too. WADE? He was supposed to be the left guard but he was hurt too? AND HE IS A RIGHT TACKLE and entirely different position with a great deal less pressure on you when you are protecting a right-handed QB. Fabini? If the tackle isn't any good then what good would lining a tight end up next to him be? Wouldn't he still get beat and and not be able to "hand off" a rusher to the tight end?

THE REDSKINS HAVE ALMOST NO DEPTH at the offensive line positions other than Wade. They are attempting to develop some as rapidly as possible.

THE REDSKINS have ALMOST NO DEPTH AT QB. THIS has alarmed me for a good long while now. Palmer needs development he is still raw. Ramsey is gone. Brunell is almost done as is Collins. Who do you call? We were almost in Atlanta's position last weekend. Gibbs knows he needs to address it. But as some folks here have pointed out there are no more 70 player squads.

AND THAT'S WHY the now ancient VINNIE TESTAVERDE is signed to a contract by powerhouse New England!!!

Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 9:01 PM | Report abuse

"1) Why did we let Wade go, just another instance of this organisation letting go of talent which they could very easily mistake."

Meant to say "very easily retain"

Posted by: kost52 | August 21, 2007 9:01 PM | Report abuse

jm199.5 good to have you back in the house. I hope all is well with you.

Jack don't type more than you can handle son.

Posted by: jm220 | August 21, 2007 9:01 PM | Report abuse

"He said afterwards they was a "missed assignment" or something like that and that it was not Heyer."

Gibbs is a boob, it was Heyer's fault. He was on the d-guy and let him go.

Why are they defending this guy so much?

Jason tell them he's a "turd" not "diamond" for me man. ;)

- Ray :)

Posted by: Ray | August 21, 2007 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Ok, Jack, since you know everything, please tell me what "flashy" player the Skins signed this offseason? And who did they throw a lot of money at? In fact, as I recall they had the opportunity to "make it rain" for Lance Briggs and chose not to do so.

And the "experts" you referred to? Those so called experts picked the Skins to have a great season last year....who pays any attention to them (other than you and Jason)?

Until a few regular season games are played no one - not you, not me, no "so called" experts - have any idea what team is going to be good or bad.

Posted by: Lisa | August 21, 2007 9:02 PM | Report abuse

littery,

If Jack leaves, then SJK means "Sorry, Jasno's Kids." An upgrade.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 21, 2007 9:03 PM | Report abuse

and i'm the only one who can kick jm220's as s up here!

inn that right jm220?!

but seriously jm220, i can NOT believe you were that upset over marshall leaving. c'mon! double G is a good coach. When will you admit that? exhibit A is his record. exhibit 3 is the fact that he had enough smarts to fire a malcontent, lindsay.

speaking of which. LH, you was right about Vick. One thing though were you surprised at who he hired as a lawyer? that guy was just fresh out doing nothing for AI and then Vick hires him! WTF! Fick is dumb!

Posted by: littery | August 21, 2007 9:08 PM | Report abuse

periculums posts read like a CRAZY PERSONS manifesto.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 21, 2007 9:08 PM | Report abuse

and does anyone care up here that i'm not getting any?

Posted by: littery | August 21, 2007 9:11 PM | Report abuse

yes littery you can kick my a. LMGO! I wasn't upset that they cut him. But to bring in a 34 year old! With 11 years in the league. Come on! If you are going to bring someone in at least bring him someone a little younger. And I have never been sold on double G. He started out with M Lewis players. Each year he let players go and brought in who he wanted. And each year the d has drop.

Posted by: jm220 | August 21, 2007 9:12 PM | Report abuse

and does anyone care up here that i'm not getting any?

Posted by: littery | August 21, 2007 09:11 PM


LMGO! Ummm that would be nooooooooooo

Posted by: jm220 | August 21, 2007 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Mini-jm is back. Good to see you again.

Periculum- Um. Uh.

Jack- Damn.

Posted by: 4-12 | August 21, 2007 9:14 PM | Report abuse

4-12 did Ahmad contact you? I will be in town next week. We should take him out. I think he needs it.

Posted by: jm220 | August 21, 2007 9:16 PM | Report abuse

lewis players? really? cuz didn't he bring in marcus washington, sean taylor, shawn springs and griffin? they're the heart and soul of this team. if you ask anyone they'll tell you those 4 are the best players on the D. and now rocky mac and london fletcher and LL.

he also brought in Deluxe and club4hands...

frankly they've been much more successful on the D as far as acquiring talent than on Offense.

Posted by: littery | August 21, 2007 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Who is Tommy anyway?

Posted by: TheGuru10 | August 21, 2007 9:19 PM | Report abuse

"We seem to be the only team in the league that doesn't draft need positions in the late rounds and ignores the holes in our lineup in free agency. We like big names, flashy signings, and it seems like we want to take more pleasure out of proving everyone wrong than doing the right thing for the franchise. "

Welcome to Redskins jeopardy where you must preface your answers as a question: WHO THE SJK IS KILI LEFUTO? WHO WAS
JIM MOLINARO (now with Dallas)? WHO WAS MARK WISON? In case someone wants to criticize both Bugel and Gibbs for those picks how about the boy genius Grilliams? Who wanted Archuleta? Let see WHO WAS ROBERT MCCUNE, JARED NEWBERRY, and KEVIN SIMON?

And what happened to Sage Rosenfels and Gibran Hamden?

WHO SAYS the REDSKINS don't draft for need? FORTUNATELY the 2 DL the selected ARE KEEPERS. BUT ALL THE LBs except for Rocky are gone. OL draft picks gone. The free agent rookies are doing better!? Who knew? The RAVENS KNEW when they signed GAITHER!!!

Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 9:19 PM | Report abuse

"TOMMY" a Rock Soap Opera blog by the WHO.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 21, 2007 9:21 PM | Report abuse

jm- Yes he emailed me. I've been trying to help him sort out the whole thing with the media, for when he's ready to talk publicly about his tragedy.

Posted by: 4-12 | August 21, 2007 9:23 PM | Report abuse

"periculums posts read like a CRAZY PERSONS manifesto."

We're all crazy in the town of Eureka. And 157 IQs.

Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 9:23 PM | Report abuse

I agree with jm220. Why would we sign an old guy who is bouncing around more than Kerry Collins these days? Why not just go with the guy who knows the system and can jump in immediately if anything should happen. Having said that, did anybody see how Fletcher moved guys around and laid down the law to the whole defense? Thats exactly what we needed. He seems to be a true leader and we just needed somebody to come in be the one who binds the defense together. Can't wait to see him in the regular season!

Posted by: jm199.5 | August 21, 2007 9:23 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins, like most of the league, draft the best player available, not for need. They are about as good at it as most teams. The fundamental problem is that it's difficult to predict performance in the NFL. Sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you get Taylor Jacobs.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 21, 2007 9:23 PM | Report abuse

I'm not too mini. I'm roughly 20.5 less.

Posted by: jm199.5 | August 21, 2007 9:25 PM | Report abuse

I'm not too mini. I'm roughly 20.5 less.

Posted by: jm199.5 | August 21, 2007 09:25 PM

In a month you will be less than that. I can't believe Ramadan is almost here again.

Posted by: jm220 | August 21, 2007 9:26 PM | Report abuse

OMG peric!!!!! are you okay?
don't pay attention to jasno's experts. winning cures all. we, along with the experts are all going to forget about all the shortcoming of this team like lack of depth on the O-line and fiscal mismanagement and how there is no gm and all that.

and this is their final year to prove people wrong. if they don't make it to the playoffs. it's over. that sihtyy ugly stadium isn't going to sellout by itself.

Posted by: littery | August 21, 2007 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Was checking Godfrey's stats on ESPN - http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=0973

Have a look at the stat headings.

STFY?? What's going on there? Who keeps track of that stat? Does that make Viagara a performance enhancing substance?

Posted by: kost52 | August 21, 2007 9:28 PM | Report abuse

jm199.5--

jm220 is petite. You, at 20.5 less, can only be mini at best.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 21, 2007 9:28 PM | Report abuse

"The Redskins, like most of the league, draft the best player available, not for need. They are about as good at it as most teams."

I think I agree. But I think they do both. Its risky not to draft for talent, best player available, in the first round. But many teams do when they draft QBs. And then they are stuck with them and their huge contracts. Tim Couch, David Carr, Harrington, etc. This has happened many times with receivers. Less so with running backs I think.

Campbell was drafted at the end of the 1st round. As was Ramsey. Most of the others were middle round picks.

It would help teams if there were more rounds in the draft. That would allow them to work at picking players based both on need and on talent. But the contract with the NFLPA reduced the number of rounds significantly.

Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Talent Evaluator,

Last year, many of the players at Redskins Park (my man Springs in particular) said that Taylor Jacobs was the most gifted WR on the team....in practice. I've heard the same thing said about Brandon Lloyd. Maybe they get stage fright.

Posted by: Lisa | August 21, 2007 9:35 PM | Report abuse

"of depth on the O-line and fiscal mismanagement and how there is no gm and all that."

Ask Houston what they thought of our last GM, I think he got ridden out of town on a rail ... that said he did his best work just before getting fired. He drafted Bailey and Arrington. Quite the coup. Its a shame both players are gone now. Is that Gibb's fault too?

Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 9:36 PM | Report abuse

You may have a point about Jacobs Lisa, but not about Lloyd. This from Lloyd's former team and former coach about Taylor Jacobs:

[RE: On Taylor Jacobs as number three guy]
"He's close in there. No other two are, so three's good. The thing that hurt Taylor the other day was he was up all night because his wife had a baby. We were hoping to do a little bit more with him. We gave him five or six plays and then I just took him out. He does have a very good chance. He's been very consistent. Some guys have a couple of good days and then they slack off but he's been very consistent. He's well rounded and a vertical threat. Some guys are one or the other and some guys are both. I think he has the ability to be both. He's got a lot of speed and he runs those routes very well. He has good hands. He's coming out of his shell a little bit and he's playing with more confidence. Last year he wasn't the most confident guy out there. That may have been because of his experience at Washington or his personal experience. I don't know what it was from, but this year he's had a good training camp, and off-season as well."

Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Lisa,

Did you read sween's post this afternoon about Taylor Jacobs? He's having a great camp with the 49er's. Good news, I say. His big problem was that he got injured about every third time he ran down the field here in Washington. Lloyd doesn't get injured but trips over his own ego.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 21, 2007 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Where is Nate? Do we have to put out an all panties alert on him? lol

Posted by: jm220 | August 21, 2007 9:40 PM | Report abuse

cdubb, I recall they had several guards in for a visit. The one (other than Buffet Davis) I remember was Edwin Mulitalo.

I, for one, am quite concerned about littery not getting any. [littery, btw, if you get any, lemme know how and where you found it.]

I'm also off the "lay off Jack" campaign. He's on his own now. [I'm thinking about starting up a "Save Periculum" campaign.] I'm just going to kick back and open up a can of ITA (non-drinkers out there might consider a boke of ITA).

Posted by: dcsween | August 21, 2007 9:40 PM | Report abuse

periculum--

Arrington was drafted, with Samuels, in Vinnie's first year here. But Casserly's coup with Bailey was a brilliant stroke.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 21, 2007 9:42 PM | Report abuse

sween--

You working late tonight? You don't do this stuff on your own time, do you?

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 21, 2007 9:43 PM | Report abuse

I, for one, am quite concerned about littery not getting any. [littery, btw, if you get any, lemme know how and where you found it.]

LMGO! Man I love this blog.

Posted by: jm220 | August 21, 2007 9:43 PM | Report abuse

[I'm thinking about starting up a "Save Periculum" campaign.]

Kewl, hate to sound "snobby" but a nice Pilsner Urquell or a bottle or two of Arneis or Roero Arneis would do ... LOL

Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 9:44 PM | Report abuse

This is a 12-year vet that I'm glad is still on the 'Skins

http://www.redskins.com/cheerleaders/profile.jsp?id=15

Posted by: 4-12 | August 21, 2007 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Because she's a forensic psychologist, I meant....

Posted by: 4-12 | August 21, 2007 9:46 PM | Report abuse

I, for one, am quite concerned about littery not getting any.

Littery, you should try California ... LOL They ask you on the first date.

Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 9:46 PM | Report abuse

I had 298 comments so far and have no idea where to start. The thing I was trying to get across was that the every year at this time I want the Redskins to win the Super Bowl but they seem to fall short since 1991. I was just raising questions that I felt were important going into the season and I think some fans drink the kool-aid and think every year we are unstoppable. I totally respect Joe Gibbs and think he is a great coach but I question the system how we get players. 2 years ago we could of got Dockery for way cheaper then he signed. I donot think its Joe Gibbs system how he gets his players. I think Dan Snyder has that set and Gibbs functions in that system. I have been a Skins fan for all my life. I think we should sign our players before there contract expires. Instead of signing guys like A.Carter for example who got more money here then anywhere else. I would like to have a couple of years of a full draft. On that note I think we will be in the playoffs. It comes down to the the 4th quarter. I really like Campbell as the QB. He looks really good beside the lack of protection. Heres another one, When has a team had only one Field goal kicker in camp?
Remember we win games in the 4th quarter and we have no one to push are field goal kicker?

Posted by: Tommy, its me the guest blogger | August 21, 2007 9:47 PM | Report abuse

dcsween - I'm with your comment earlier today about having a look at Floyd "Pork Chop" Womack if he is released. Not so much because of O-line worries, just because it would seem appropriate to have a guy named Pork Chop were the Hogs once were!

Posted by: kost52 | August 21, 2007 9:49 PM | Report abuse

periculum keeps the meth business booming and for the 2nd time, where is that kid from the pacific NW that posts every 5 minutes with all that senseless stuff?

Posted by: PG | August 21, 2007 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Tommy,

"2 years ago we could of got Dockery for way cheaper then he signed."

Derrick Dockery was originally drafted by the Skins so I'm not sure what you mean? They also signed a free agent named Randy Thomas. If you ask Jason's experts I am sure they will tell you that this guy is all-pro caliber at guard. So, do you pay Dockery more than the guy who helped teach him his craft makes? Its a hard choice for sure.

BTW, Randy Thomas thinks Heyer is the real deal.


Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 9:52 PM | Report abuse

talent evaluator (how about an acronym, maybe like KK), yes, pathetically, but the mrs just walked in ... and the littery bit reminded me about something, so i gotta sign off again.

Posted by: dcsween | August 21, 2007 9:54 PM | Report abuse

"periculum keeps the meth business booming and for the 2nd time"

Yeah thats why I get 15X my allegra-D prescription every month. Concerta is better and smoother ... plus its legal. :)

Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Tommy,

I'm with periculum on this one. Two years ago you could have got Dockery cheap because no one in the league wanted him. He hadn't shown much of anything. Last year was his break out year. And, you may be able to get him cheap again in another year or two.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 21, 2007 9:55 PM | Report abuse

sween, littery- You know how it goes. Since we're all married with kid(s), we only get any in months ending in "bruary"

Posted by: 4-12 | August 21, 2007 9:56 PM | Report abuse

"Floyd "Pork Chop" Womack if he is released."

Sure sounds like another purportedly talented Guard who was just here recently again ... he couldn't manage to stay on the field eithe as I recall. Tre' Johnson. Brad Badger was available for awhile as well. Hmmmm ... LOL


Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 9:58 PM | Report abuse

I think Nate is on a buisness trip

Lisa: Make it rain on Lance Briggs...quote of the day GF! Hysterical!!!!!!!!!

This has been a GREAT DAY on the blog...were flying crazy bat-siht up here today bruthas and sistas!!!!!

But you know who is LAME today: Te WaPo....between almost no news on the roster moves, an ill timed guest post and quite frankly some weak azz "anon" sources like crazy, no cyn cyndy.....weak Wapo...weak

Posted by: chris larry | August 21, 2007 10:00 PM | Report abuse

DCSween, Littery is married so I doubt you will want to get it from the same place. I am trusting that Littery's first option (and hopefully second and third) would be his wife.

Posted by: Lisa | August 21, 2007 10:01 PM | Report abuse

sween, littery- You know how it goes. Since we're all married with kid(s), we only get any in months ending in "bruary"

Posted by: 4-12 | August 21, 2007 09:56 PM


I'm not married, and have no kids but I'm in the same boat. Maybe it's because all my days end in a Brewery!

Posted by: kost52 | August 21, 2007 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Bring the heat, baby!

Posted by: Harry Johnson | August 21, 2007 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Lisa,

Littery's wife? Second and third options? They're married and he gets three options? Would that be in a week, a month, or a year?

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 21, 2007 10:06 PM | Report abuse

See kost- You never should've moved in with your girlfriend. That's how it all begins (or ends as it were!).

Posted by: 4-12 | August 21, 2007 10:07 PM | Report abuse

cL--With you all the way on your assessment of the WaPo. Especially the anonymous sources, even though I am one myself.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 21, 2007 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Man, I take a break for dinner, chess, and Big Brother and wtf breaks out.

That was some entertaining catch-up blog-reading.

What's up next?

Posted by: farstriker | August 21, 2007 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Tommy,
I'm just curious, how old are you? I'm digging your points but you probably just don't know that many of them have been made in this blog for a long time.

Posted by: Glass Half Full? | August 21, 2007 10:11 PM | Report abuse

farstriker--

Chess? Are you sure you're in the right company? This is the Redskin Insiders, not the Marc Fisher blog. We're all pawns and you're probably a knight.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 21, 2007 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Lavar (sniff) understood. He played chess.

Lavar!!!!!

Lavar, don't go! Lavarrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: farstriker | August 21, 2007 10:15 PM | Report abuse

farstriker - Kudos on the chess, but Big Brother?

Posted by: kost52 | August 21, 2007 10:16 PM | Report abuse

LaVar played chess, and maybe that's why he never posted on Redskins Insider. Chess is the most strenuous thing he's going to be doing for a while.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 21, 2007 10:20 PM | Report abuse

talent kk- You misunderstood. A married guys' 3 options, as they're always well articulated to me are 1)Go sleep on the SJK couch, B)Sleep with one eye open you SJKer, or 3)Don't let the SJK door hit you on the way out.

Posted by: 4-12 | August 21, 2007 10:20 PM | Report abuse

"2 years ago we could of got Dockery for way cheaper then he signed. Heres another one, When has a team had only one Field goal kicker in camp?"

"Remember we win games in the 4th quarter and we have no one to push are field goal kicker? "


Posted by: Tommy, its me the guest blogger | August 21, 2007 09:47 PM

Tommy, I think you make a great point about getting Dockery two years ago on the cheap and I think that is one of our front offices biggest problems. Last season, the Eagles signed Mike Patterson, their 1st round pick two years ago to an 8 year contract extension. His first two years he didn't do much, but they liked what they saw and based off his lack of performance he didn't sign for the type of bonus he would have demanded in say 3 years if he reaches his potential. If the doesn't reach his potential in 2 years and they want to cut bait it's not really much of a cap hit and he's off the books. Teams like Philly and NE have done this for years and it has allowed them to stay below the cap and give them flexibility to sign a free agent if they need to. I think that's what you were saying about Dock. They could have signed him 2 years ago for 1/4th of his current deal and this wouldn't be an issue. Thats why now, after a down year is a great time to sign Rogers and they should have done the same with Cooley last year.

As for the K part of your post. Theres also something to be said about building confidence in a player and letting him know you're behind him. Some guys need a push and some guys need to have a coach show confidence in them to build up their own confidence in themselves. If he underperformed in camp I'm sure they would have brought in someone but as of now he's doing well and there is no need. More often then not, teams bring in a 2nd K to handle practice duties, not necessarily to push a guy. The Colts 2nd K in camp is to rest Vinatieri and not force him to do all the work each day. He's a veteran who doesn't need as much work as Suisham.

Posted by: TheGuru10 | August 21, 2007 10:23 PM | Report abuse

I may still have some issues about Lavar's unfulfilled career here. . . .

Posted by: farstriker | August 21, 2007 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Mrs "bruary" dcsween had me log back in to check cab fares from home to the airport (she's taking the girls to her parents for the week, YES!), and I see JLaC posted one for tomorrow re: Godfrey and Marshall. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/21/AR2007082101890.html
Turns out that Godfrey and Daniels ARE friends! Godfrey Daniels (FJK)!

Posted by: dcsween | August 21, 2007 10:26 PM | Report abuse

One of the reasons I like Gridiron so much is because of it's similarities to chess. Looking ahead to try and pre-empt your opponents moves, while at the same time trying to break through his defense.

Posted by: kost52 | August 21, 2007 10:27 PM | Report abuse

also, it wasn't a cap move. Marshall was set to make $1M. Godfrey is getting $1.3M. Godfrey Daniels!

Posted by: dcsween | August 21, 2007 10:27 PM | Report abuse

TheGuru10 and Tommy,

You two are brilliant. You have perfect, 20-20 hindsight. The point is that two years ago, no one could have thought Dock would have the year he had last year.

How about this? Two years ago we could have resigned Taylor Jacobs. Or Holdman. Or Lemar Marshall. Or Rod Gardner. How would you feel today if we'd thrown big bucks at these guys two years ago?

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 21, 2007 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Lemme try that again ... picture my dad (OK, your dad) using a hammer and a nail, and missing the nail but hitting his thumb, and yelling "GODfrey DANiels!"

Posted by: dcsween | August 21, 2007 10:29 PM | Report abuse

sween,

I had to give up KK. As "talent evaluator" I'll be quoted frequently in Jason's articles in the Post. As KK, I was nothing, and probably rightfully so.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 21, 2007 10:32 PM | Report abuse

How about this? Two years ago we could have resigned Taylor Jacobs. Or Holdman. Or Lemar Marshall. Or Rod Gardner. How would you feel today if we'd thrown big bucks at these guys two years ago?

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 21, 2007 10:29 PM

You're missing the point. If they weren't showing much then how were they going to get big bucks. Plus, he wouldn't have demanded much of a bonus at all so cutting him wouldn't have amounted to much in terms of a cap hit. As for your other players listed, I know you were trying to be funny, but they weren't starters and they didn't leave in free agency for another team leaving us with a hole on our O-Line. But we don't know anything, I mean that strategy has only allowed Philly to win the division for 6 of the last 7 years and NE to win 3 Super Bowls, but hey, let's keep overpaying for free agents and losing our own homegrown talent like we have been.

Are you really Vinny?

Posted by: TheGuru10 | August 21, 2007 10:36 PM | Report abuse

So we've added Godfrey and Myers, and cut Marshall. Where did the other roster position come from? Was someone else cut? Or is it because Espy has been put on IR?

Posted by: kost52 | August 21, 2007 10:44 PM | Report abuse

"So we've added Godfrey and Myers, and cut Marshall. Where did the other roster position come from? Was someone else cut? Or is it because Espy has been put on IR?"

Espy's on IR. Wonder if he will ever come back?

Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Regarding Dockery, Dave Elfin of the Times said today on Comcast that Chris Samuels was why Dockery looked so good. No knock on Dock but Samuels helped him make the big bucks.

Posted by: Lisa | August 21, 2007 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Wow, there is definitely some tension up in here tonight! No offense, Jack, but my money is on jm220. Something about him screams "primal rage," that I think a conscientious family man like yourself would find to be fetal position-inducing.

I'm a supporter of the 1st ammendment (what, me worry?) so even though I wholeheartedly disagree with Jack and his negative commentary, I find it interesting and occasionally insightful, though I agree (lets save the bashing and hatred for the cowgirls, not our own)

Am I correct to get the vibe that there is some Jasno mutiny here? I, too, thought he was a bit harsh on Heyer, who (given that he's an undrafted rookie) is doing quite admirably, I think. Does anyone think Buge will move him to left guard when Samuels is back? I think of Joe Jacoby.

On another note, if you get mad at Jack you can always say "NSJK" for "not sorry jack's kids."

Hang in there, brotha.

Posted by: TDawg | August 21, 2007 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Periculum.

You'd have to say it will be very difficult for him to come back, he wasn't guaranteed a roster spot as it was, now he's got to recover from his surgery as good, if not better, than what he was before the injury.

Posted by: kost52 | August 21, 2007 10:55 PM | Report abuse

dcsween's dad, after he drops the hammer on his foot and trips, punching a big hole in the drywall:

COOley Tucker!

Yoder MACKlin, Ecker LeFOtu!

MaNUpuna PucILlo!

Suisham Smoot, COOley Tucker!

Posted by: farstriker | August 21, 2007 10:56 PM | Report abuse

The upcoming cuts will be interesting to say the least. Marshall's release was a huge surprise. It tells me that they finally found winners in the LB's they drafted and signed. After 3 years.

Yeah let's face it I would rather Marvin Lewis had been the heir apparent to head coach. But he left and went to the Bengals. He's done well there.

Hopefully Gibbs, Buges, crazy Al, and Grilliams have righted themselves as coaches and the players as well.

Whatever happened to Manuel White Jr.?

Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Hate to repeat this guys. But if they sign a guy like Randall Godfrey who wasn't on anyone's roster, in spite of the decent year he had with San Diego. What will happen when Priest Holmes is released? Sounds like they are starting to sign those guys hoping for a miracle that will get them through this year.

They do need a miracle at wide receiver. Its not going to come from Brandon Lloyd. Any 49'er fan will tell you that. They will also tell you how ecstatic they are that they have Taylor Jacobs AND NOT Lloyd. I doubt that Randle El will either. They can't seem to even measure up to the smallish "smurfs" who took over when Art Monk got hurt.

Posted by: periculum | August 21, 2007 11:04 PM | Report abuse

TheGuru10 , I agree with your post. I think as a kicker thats not known for big games as of yet could of had another kicker in to push him, but I could see Gibbs using his leadership in that way. Thats a fair point. I am 32 years old to the other guy. I post sometimes.

Posted by: Tommy | August 21, 2007 11:07 PM | Report abuse

speaking of which. LH, you was right about Vick. One thing though were you surprised at who he hired as a lawyer? that guy was just fresh out doing nothing for AI and then Vick hires him! WTF! Fick is dumb!

Posted by: littery | August 21, 2007 09:08 PM

No I wasn't surprised. He hired one of the top defense attorney's in the country. Are you familiar with his work in the Jayson Williams case where he got a jury to deadlock on a reckless manslaughter count and to acquit him of aggravated manslaughter? How do you figure he's "fresh out doing nothing for AI"? There were two plaintiff's - one got ZERO and the other got $260K but no punitive damages. It probably didn't help that Iverson absented himself from the trial everday except the day he testified. And no matter how great an attorney is, if he tries enough cases he's going to lose a few. Only Matlock and Perry Mason have been able to match the '72 Dolphins.

Posted by: LH | August 21, 2007 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Wow I never realized Jayson Williams walked...crazy...

Posted by: chris larry | August 21, 2007 11:22 PM | Report abuse

Periculum - Good call on Manuel White Jr. I can't find anything on him since he was added to injured reserve almost a year ago.

Posted by: kost52 | August 21, 2007 11:26 PM | Report abuse

dcsween - 1.3 Million!?! GODfrey DANiels that's too much jack.

Ok - I'm back to scratchin' my noggin' again. WTsjk?!

Posted by: Dik | August 21, 2007 11:28 PM | Report abuse

>>> "Maybe it's because all my days end in a Brewery!"

That is probably the funniest thing I've ever read up here.

Lots of flying stuff back and forth up here. It's hard to keep up, and, quite frankly, not really worth it. All will be clear in just a few short weeks. Remember the formula: the defense keeps the team in as many close games as possible, the offense scores just enough to get the team to a 6-5 record, then JC, CP, Moss, and Cooley start to gel and light it up and get the team to 10-6 and the playoffs.

As for depth: every single team in the League has depth problems somewhere. It's a fact of life in the salary cap era. The 'Skins depth problems happen to be on the offensive line. Just pray there are no more serious injuries.

As the old man, Ken Beatrice, used to say: "90% of all games are lost, not won" and "Usually in the NFL, the healthiest team ends up winning it all".

Football is a game of inches, yes, but it also seems more and more to be a game of band-aids. Knowing that, it is still beyond my comprehension that they play 4-5 preseason games, have this ludicrous concept of "inactive" players, have an even more ludicrous concept of an "inactive" quarterback, and haven't expanded rosters to 60 players. Ah, but it's all money, isn't it?

Posted by: P Diddy | August 21, 2007 11:29 PM | Report abuse

CL, Jayson Williams didn't walk. He's being retried on the reckless manslaughter charge on which the first jury hung (8-4 for acquittal). Don't know when it's going to start. The lead prosecutor quit a couple of weeks ago.

Posted by: LH | August 21, 2007 11:42 PM | Report abuse

What used to be cool about this blog is that JLa used to come in here and mix it up as a poster, not just the moderator.

Those were the days....

Posted by: DTC | August 21, 2007 11:43 PM | Report abuse

That was one less child ago.

Posted by: LH | August 21, 2007 11:44 PM | Report abuse

But he's proven he can type one-handed.

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 21, 2007 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Actually, let me rephrase that... he's proven that having one or more children hanging off his arms does not materially affect either his speed or his accuracy.

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 21, 2007 11:50 PM | Report abuse

It'll be interesting to see who gets cut in the next week or so. I'm sure Marshall won't be the biggest name.

By the way, WR Robert Ferguson signed with Minnesota Vikings.

Posted by: kost52 | August 22, 2007 12:03 AM | Report abuse

I caught up on most of the posts. Once again, my conclusions:

1) Ignore Jack. Dude can't take a differing opinion without taking it personal.

Maybe I am wrong. Posted by: Jack | August 21, 2007

The poster named Jack is wrong in so many ways, I just won't go there.

2) Ignore Periculum. He's willing to carry on a conversation, but his responses are epic - in length, not quality. Perhaps, taking crazy pills.

Sorry guys. I enjoy discussing the 'skins, but don't think I can discuss them with those posters who I will no longer name.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 22, 2007 12:07 AM | Report abuse

bangkokben - Cashew Chicken is doing well! Unbeaten! And Redcoat hasn't won a game yet! Maybe that's why he's done a runner!

Posted by: kost52 | August 22, 2007 12:27 AM | Report abuse

The rest of the night shift on an RDO or something??

Posted by: kost52 | August 22, 2007 2:17 AM | Report abuse

less then a month to start season and our new LB Randall Godfrey has to get into game shape? Luv the commitment from this old timer

Posted by: OLD fokes home REDSKIN PARK | August 22, 2007 6:38 AM | Report abuse

P Diddy love the Ken Beatrice shou out. I loved that dude. He was OCS/ADHD/ADD all that stuff before they diagnosed it...

Anytime someone says "Giving 110 percent" it cues his rant in my head...."HOW CAN YOU GIVE MORE THAN 100!!!..."

Posted by: chris larry | August 22, 2007 7:06 AM | Report abuse

fokes???

If you're too stupid to know how to spell "folks", then you are also probably too stupid to understand what "game shape" means and how it is attained, so I won't waste the time explaining it on you.

Posted by: DigDoug | August 22, 2007 7:09 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: etrod | August 22, 2007 7:11 AM | Report abuse

I am once again shocked by the "Inside" information. What's next? The Guest Blogger will talk about how some people wish the Redskins would change their name and logo? or maybe... Joe Gibbs should be in the Hall because,m oh wait he already is.

I know, We live in the USA and I have the right to view whatever site I wish, blah blah blah.

After reading through several post on here, I sense that others are tired of the blogs about children, happy hour, summer movies. The "Insider" information is once again just slightly behind, "League News" in Madden '08.

Whenever "there isn't much to write about" (huh it preseason, there should be plenty) we get the joy of reading a summary of what every Redskins fan already knew.

This blog is like a bad girl friend, that looks good. I keep waqnting to give it a try, but the outcome is always the same.

There are quite of few people on here that actually bring some thought and effort to the table, P Diddy, periculum, bangkokben , and yes even Chris Larry to name a few.

Life long Redskins fan, but at best the team is average ( I pray for much more ) and the blog is right on par with the team. F'n step up you game people, put some effort in this. When you have the coach even baffled about Jason's "sources"

Said Gibbs: "There was a newspaper article [Tuesday] morning about Stephon, and I want to say that [article] was inaccurate. I don't know where the information came from.

You can't expect much more from his "Insider" blog.

Bash me, love me, whatever... Give me ONE thing that is meaninful/Insider that I couldn't get from the convience store clerk 2 blocks away from Redskins Park, until then Mr. "Insider" and Ali Haji Shek (the worst kicker ever for the Skins) have about the same importance to ME.

No more cousins, neighbors, friend of a friend guest blogger on here. Step up your game man.

Posted by: hail to 'em | August 22, 2007 7:27 AM | Report abuse

etrod, save us from the madness ... and unleash some Sean Taylor madness.

Gotta love the name of the city where the Bears reporting comes from, Bourbonnaise. Kind of like dijon/mayonnaise, only it comes in a shot glass and no dijon. Skins play in that place that happens when a hot part hits a seed and it pops.

farstriker and Dik, godfrey daniels = god dammit. FJK.

Posted by: dcsween | August 22, 2007 7:32 AM | Report abuse

"... Bash me, love me, whatever... Give me ONE thing that is meaninful/Insider that I couldn't get from the convience store clerk ...."

Posted by: hail to 'em | August 22, 2007 07:27 AM

How about the fact that you come here and read it, and occasionally post something? Insider dope doesn't come flying a mile a minute, it happens every so often. In between, you can hang here and read (or not read) what there is about children, happy hour, and summer movies.

Posted by: dcsween | August 22, 2007 7:36 AM | Report abuse

DCSween - You stand corrected. Heyer didn't miss his block because Keisel wasn't his 1st assignment.

JM220 - Read this article.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/21/AR2007082101977.html

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | August 22, 2007 7:36 AM | Report abuse

Lord knows that no one dare ever question St. Joe, but did it occur to anyone that the Head Coach might be voicing support for a young, developing player regardless of what he/Buges may really think is accurate? If preseason is for learning and development, and an undrafted rookie is out there learning and being developed -- i.e., given the liberty to make mistakes for which he is only required to learn and develop, not to bear "blame" -- then maybe St. Joe might be telling Big Media to back off. JLaC's article used the word "island" several times in that article to describe the situations in which Heyer was put. Maybe the "inaccurate" part to which St. Joe refers is the perception that "island" means abandonment, rather than testing or challenging. Its not like "us versus them" thinking ever turns a bunch of guys into a team.

hail to 'em, your cut-and-paste quote is from a Gary Fitz article, who is the team's guy, so no question he is "inside." Its a matter of actually having an informed source on the "outside" to challenge (and thus strengthen) the message.

Posted by: dcsween | August 22, 2007 7:45 AM | Report abuse

4th, I'm actually sitting right now. Your link to the Vick article was interesting. Yesterday (or the day before?), JLaC actually attributed Keisel's penetration to miscommunication between Pucillo and Heyer (not sure if he said miscommunication or confusion).

Posted by: dcsween | August 22, 2007 7:47 AM | Report abuse

How about the fact that you come here and read it, and occasionally post something?
Posted by: dcsween | August 22, 2007 07:36 AM

You are correct, I do read it, I sometime post. You would also have to agree there have been more people lately upset with the fact there isn't anything worth posting about.

Seriously, dcsween, did YOU actually get anything from the guest blog? That was my point. Effort isn't too much to ask for.
If you want to talk about kids, your favorite concert T-shirt, or the size of the tires on your car... GREAT. But I feel pretty safe in thinking, before long you will have a handful of posters and more people posting that they are 1st! than you do an actual conversation about the Redskins.

Posted by: hail to 'em | August 22, 2007 7:48 AM | Report abuse

Jason must have some very disturbing pictures of some of you. I love the loyalty though.

(Did ever think sometimes Jason could be wrong?)

Posted by: hail to 'em | August 22, 2007 7:52 AM | Report abuse

4th, because J.Campbell is not hurt, I'm adopting JLaC's correction to my stance and moving on: "Pittsburgh end Brett Keisel came in free across the left side of the line Saturday, with a mishap between Pucillo and Heyer creating the lane. Neither picked him up or slowed him sufficiently, ...."

hail to 'em, agreed. I didn't get much from Tommy's blog, but I do think it takes some courage to stick your neck out to the ridicule of the critics here. The only blog discussion that Tommy's blog inspired (related to the content of his blog) was scorn and disdain. That, to me, is tiring. I don't understand why people just don't skip that step and discuss some of the other interesting possible Skins topics that end up in the body of the post. There usually are two or three, but for some reason, some folks prefer to focus on being negative. Alot of the negativity is itself a re-hash of old (negative news). I only ever want to read the words "Vinny Cerrato" if its contained in something funny. [Tried to do that about Taylor Jacobs, but I concede I actually do wish him well; his wife just had a kid.] I get really tired of posts with "I'm sorry people, but ...." BS that the poster is sorry. He/she is just venting about the past as a proxy for venting his/her own unhappy life.

Right now, the Skins are undefeated in the regular season. Predictions about the season from the bloggers here are about as useful as they are the from "experts" in the sports media. [Exception relates to the blogger named 4-12, who may or may not currently believe the team is looking at a 4-12 season ... but that is unimportant b/c it is his identity.]

Skins have ONE game to focus on winning ... on Sept. 9th.

Posted by: dcsween | August 22, 2007 7:59 AM | Report abuse

hail to 'em, JLaC is often wrong, and I've disagreed with him here ... but its for the purpose of conversing with other bloggers on the content of the assertion, not the effort or quality of the guy's work.

Posted by: dcsween | August 22, 2007 8:02 AM | Report abuse

Hello Redskins Nation. Glad to be among you. This is my first blog entry on Washington's favorite team, so forgive me if it goes astray. I woke up this morning and couldn't believe training camp was underway. Just wanted to welcome you all to my little cranny in internet land, and invite you all to participate. I had a blast doing a daily blog during the World Cup in Germany, and look forward to connecting with as many readers as possible on this Skins blog, too (and if my new soccer friends want to chime in as well and talk some futbol from time to time as well, far be it for me to stop them).

I thought I'd give my philosophy on this thingy as we get started. Basically, I want to have some fun, hopefully entertain some people and start a dialogue about whatever interests you. I like to deal with the many strange and offbeat things that happen covering this team, but if there are days when you want hardcore X's and O's, by all means send in a comment and let me know. I figure we do a lot of that already in our non-bloggy coverage of the team, but I am game for whatever. I'm kind of looking at this as an extension of the web chats I do, and, since I've really been given no parameters or restrictions from management thus far on this blog (what were you guys thinking?), I'm sticking with that ethos until told otherwise. Ah, sweet freedom.

Posted by: Blog charter reminder | August 22, 2007 8:04 AM | Report abuse

Adam Schefter of NFL.com:

A market broke out in recent days for Godfrey, the former San Diego Chargers linebacker.

Philadelphia expressed an interest in signing him to help replace Trotter. Washington expressed an interest in signing him to help bolster its backers. Washington won out and now the Redskins have an added linebacker to go along with the likes of budding star Rocky McIntosh.

And that is worth noting. Redskins coaches are enamored with McIntosh. Outside of quarterback Jason Campbell, McIntosh is the hardest-working player in the organization. If he stays healthy this season, McIntosh has a chance to play himself to Hawaii and the Pro Bowl.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2007 8:13 AM | Report abuse

hail to' em has blog street cred and I think he makes some valid points and I tend to agree, and not only b/c he threw me some DAP (I think....)

Now I like the kids/movies stuff, especially offseason. And I think it helped give Janso some personality. But this preseason the blog has been a dissappointment (us posters aside) we get sporatic updates, still no live links, no pics (i mean how many reject shots do wapo photags have? like 2000!) nothing that other blogs do.

Yesterday was a disgrace. We had legit news and we were rolling on the Lemar post, why premempt that thread for a guest post that was redundant at best?!?! Either more relevant Lamar/LB news or leave the thread going?!

And Janso is the bomb mostly so I am not a hater, but enough of the "he does it for free" nonsense...the WaPo is the one of the most web-savy dailies going, the revune streams for newspaper websites is growing huge. So no maybe they didnt give Janso more money to do a blog, but they said "do a blog" that just added it to his job description. How many of us have had duties added to our job that didnt come with more compensation?! I thought so.....

Posted by: chris Larry | August 22, 2007 8:22 AM | Report abuse

I agree cL about the preempting of the Marshall blog. SOmetimes a lot of blog entries get lost in the shuffle. I was gone for four days and there were 12 blogs posted. I could not read them all, of course I expect as much during a game.

I would propose that when there is breaking news, a post should be immediate. When Jasno has just tidbits or randoms, maybe posting those at a specific time, maybe around 6am EST when the blog is lite... just one persons opinion.

Of course, since we hi-jacked the blog, we should have just written on the guest blog that we were continuing on the marshall blog...nothing says that we have to post on the most recent blog.

Posted by: Zebra | August 22, 2007 8:28 AM | Report abuse

We always used to say Got Dandruff, some of it itches (Godfrey Daniels made me think of it). Stupid --- probably, but brought back some memories...

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | August 22, 2007 8:32 AM | Report abuse

I'd have to say that I agree with whoever it was who said that maybe Gibbs blasting Jasno was just him sticking up for his player. I think that is admirable. If I were a player, I think I'd do ANYTHING for a coach who did that for me. Stroke of genius by Gibbs, whether he means it or not.

I think I'm of the mind to say that this is probably an upgrade at LB, but we'll see. Lemar was a good team player. And has now taken one for the team. Hope he latches on somewhere else.

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | August 22, 2007 8:35 AM | Report abuse

For the blog haters out there....

I have never understood someone who comes to a blog, joins it, then consistently rips it. If you don't like the blog here, it's not like there aren't other blogs you could find more to your liking. If you don't like it, "vote with your feet". Leave.

For those of us who do like it, it's very annoying to have every 5th or 10th or whatever post be "I hate jasno" or "this is a stupid blog". Just LEAVE.

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | August 22, 2007 8:39 AM | Report abuse

Caro; I see Marshall going to the eagles... dont know why, but all of our former players stay in division so they can extract their revenge

Posted by: Zebra | August 22, 2007 8:39 AM | Report abuse

hail to' em many people yesterday stated that they story was a little harsh.

4th I read the article and it had some very interesting points. How are you doing this morning?

I promise to play nice today.

Posted by: jm220 | August 22, 2007 8:42 AM | Report abuse

carocanesfan,

i hope your making a differential between people who post this blog sux, and others that have thougt out critiques, who care b/c they love?

Posted by: chris Larry | August 22, 2007 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Lemar's a nice guy. Hope he does latch on with someone, even if with the Eagles. Somehow, I don't think I'd be too worried with him in the middle or even outside when we play them. Harsh? Maybe, but I think it's probably true.

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | August 22, 2007 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Caro; I understand it... some say its b/c it is the place where they can blow off their steam.

And I am just as guilty. It is a microcosom of the society/world in which we live. Some people, if not most, have a hard time expressing their true feelings, especially in person, whether it be to your boss or your spouse, etc... so they come here.

Also, Football and sports in general have become as important in life as a spouse or job.

Also the lack of coping skills can severely affect ones demeanor, causing them to be irritable and confrontational. Both of which I think describes the haters you speak of.

So all in all, just like the annoying people of the world we interact with everyday and have no choice but to deal, the same applies to the blog.

ITA

Posted by: Zebra | August 22, 2007 8:46 AM | Report abuse

Can someone explain to me how Tommy's guest blog pre-empted the Marshall discussion? I just did a check, and Marshall's name appears 61 times on this page. Peeps who wanted to talk about Marshall talked about him.

Hail to 'em -- You are so tedious. What is your point?

cL -- Yesterday a "disgrace"? It was just another day and another 450 posts. Where's the disgrace in that?

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 22, 2007 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Its clear from the skins latest puff piece on redskins dot com that Gibby is taking direct aim at Jasno and the story on the ailing offensive line.

What is scary (a little it) is that he struck a nerve. The skins dug themselves a big hole by not replacing Dockery and leaving themselves so thin at O-line. I think four years into this experiment, Joe is realizing you can't throw away middle round draft picks. And he may be realizing he is ging to have to take Buges behind the woodshed pretty soon. Even the puff piece points out that the Redskins have given up 8 sacks in two games, compared to 12 all year last year and have gone from 4th best rushing attack to a paltry 2.4 yards per carry. The number don't lie Joe...

Posted by: DTC | August 22, 2007 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Kost,

Sorry, I missed the nightshift. Sis in town to see the new addition and a busy week with work.

Cashew Chicken does rock and although I follow all sorts of football it's a result of pure luck. Big bathes of bad luck to the roster, yet they keep winning. Perhaps Cashew Chicken is a team of destiny.

Posted by: bangkokben | August 22, 2007 8:50 AM | Report abuse

Talent evaluator/KK,

As I stated a disgrace from the WaPo side, not us commentors. We ruled and I loved it. And I am pretty sure I said why...

The premption came from commenting on a relevant post, to being stuck with a lame, commpletely silly mid june style post and then a comnplete radio silence from WaPo side on any more details on what was an active day at the park.....

I like Hail to em....he complimented me!

Posted by: chris Larry | August 22, 2007 8:56 AM | Report abuse

Where in the world is Nate in the PDX and Redcoat?

Redcoat, are you lurking?

Posted by: bangkokben | August 22, 2007 8:58 AM | Report abuse

Just to make myself clear. I certainly don't hate anything about the blog or Jason. I appreciate it for what it is (or should be)

CL hit it right on the nose, why have a guest blog post, when everyone is talking about the "NEWS" of Godfrey?

That's all I saying and now, I have stepped down from my soap box.

Posted by: Hail to 'em | August 22, 2007 8:59 AM | Report abuse

I guess CL that I'm talking partly about the people who hate on Jasno all the time (he should post more, there should be less guest blogging, all his articles suck, etc).

I am OK with people saying Jasno that article was harsh or rehashed. I have NO problem with someone giving a reasoned argument against conclusions reached by Jasno or his anonymous sources.

Don't get me wrong, I think the most interesting things on the blog are the inside information, which don't show up very often, and then only as a preview to the next day's article. But that's the nature of the beast here. I do enjoy the banter back and forth, though the thin skins and mine is bigger than yours do get old...

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | August 22, 2007 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Saw something in the Express this AM that made me question something someone said yesterday (which I had bought). Yesterday, someone said cutting Marshall was a vote for H.B. Blades -- something like how Marshall had been #2 on the depth chart and Blades #3. This article made the contrary point -- that bringing in Godfrey displayed lack of confidence in the draft picks, Blades and Sartz, because the reason for the overall move (cut Marshall/add Godfrey) was to cover the strong side till Marcus got better, i.e., the decision process was to look around the roster to find Marcus' replacement first, not being satisfied with the choices, then to add Godfrey, then to cut Marshall to make room for Godfrey (b/c they had just drafted the two LBs). Presumably, the decision on which vet to cut could have been made on which LB added more to the special teams game -- and Khary Campbell prevailed over Marshall (but otherwise K.Campbell was not the guy to step in for Marcus). That thought process makes sense to me ... and explains the timing, esp. if the Skins had found out the Eagles were going to be cutting Trotter and thus competing in the market for an experienced vet LB.

On that point, another team is going to be competing with the Skins in the market for a starting guard. The Buccs 2nd round pick, Arron Sears, was slated to start at guard and looks to be out with a busted knee.

Posted by: dcsween | August 22, 2007 9:05 AM | Report abuse

mine is bigger than yours do get old...

LMGO

Posted by: jm220 | August 22, 2007 9:08 AM | Report abuse

And I wasn't commenting on this mornings stuff. I just read most of the blogs from yest afternoon/night. And the amount of the hating was cummulative.

As an aside, anyone know how many sacks we gave up in preseason last year compared to the regular season?

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | August 22, 2007 9:09 AM | Report abuse

"I guess CL that I'm talking partly about the people who hate on Jasno all the time (he should post more, there should be less guest blogging, all his articles suck, etc). ...."

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | August 22, 2007 09:05 AM

CCF, it probably seems like there are more peeps posting here who do that than there actually are. Negativity tends to stand out, esp. over actual football discussion. Old School has had some awesome nuggets in the past 48 hours that drew no follow-up. I think there are only a few recurring characters who just hate Jasno with a fervor (e.g., nonon, Todd, etc.).

Posted by: dcsween | August 22, 2007 9:09 AM | Report abuse

From the JLaC article about Godfrey and his buddy, Phillip Daniels, does it seem like Daniels is saying this is going to be his last season?

>>> "I told him that he needs to at least play one year with me before we reach the end," Daniels, 34, said after his first practice with Godfrey.

Posted by: dcsween | August 22, 2007 9:13 AM | Report abuse

And like said trolls, sween, those you ITA because they do not do it to incite a discussion, they are just fuming.

And those contribute to the count while, if we ITA, do not affect us in the least.

Posted by: Zebra | August 22, 2007 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Yeap CL, you at least bring your "A Game" everytime, whether I agree or not with you at times, you apply EFFORT to your post.

Hail to 'em -- You are so tedious. What is your point?
Posted by: talent evaluator

Talent - Here is some braille for you .:. ..:. ::..: :..;., ::;;'..

since, you couldn't read or understand what my point was perhaps this will help.

"I want some substance" if we aren't going to get NEW Redskins news. Lately it has been wrong, old or useless. (I am not including the funny and informational pieces right now)

Guest Blogger - "Ramsey is a backup in Denver and Gibbs finally found a starter for the team. Yes wide receiver is a problem. And the hole at guard is glaring. But they do have a running tandem and a decent tight end. Really??!? You don't say? Amatuer Night is on Tuesday at the Funny Bone. Give me the "Insider"

And before you all say get to steppin... or he gave it a good try... THAT is whats wrong.. you have settled for average.

Posted by: Hail to 'em | August 22, 2007 9:19 AM | Report abuse

DCsween,

I agree, and those are the ones I'm talking about.

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | August 22, 2007 9:23 AM | Report abuse

If only he brought that A Game EFFORT to his J-O-B

Posted by: chris Larry's boss | August 22, 2007 9:25 AM | Report abuse

There has been some question here about whether Joe Gibbs would be back for a fifth season next year. I listened to his presser from yesterday where he stated that they only spent one day game planning for the Steelers. He said that he would change that for next year. That sounds to me like he intends to be here for at least the 08 season.

One comment: the name calling on this blog befuddles me. It is probably why I generally prefer the company of animals to the company of people.

Posted by: Mark (in 21132) | August 22, 2007 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Sween,

That looks like an admission from Daniels that this will be his last year. I thought the same thing too when I read it.

On the other hand, maybe Daniels knows that Godfrey only has a year left in the tank, and Daniels may have two or three. Hard to tell.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 22, 2007 9:35 AM | Report abuse

I can't find on espn.com any preseason stats on sacks from last year, just regular season. They say we gave up the fewest in the NFC (19 total for the year).

Anyone else know if we gave up a bunch of sacks in the preseason last year? My guess is that while a line is starting to gel, the QB's are getting their feet wet, playing scrubs, etc that sacks are higher. Maybe, maybe not.

Not panicking yet about the line but do think they should have done more to solidify the depth in case of injury, which did not happen last year (for the first time in a while).

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | August 22, 2007 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Hail;

I have to disagree. If you are saying that one should not defend the guest blogger, like some have, by saying at least he tried, stuck his neck out, etc... then yes I adhear to that credo.

Stop criticizing and do him one better. If you dont like the product, affect change...dont just b@tch about it.

Look, I understand you want the inside dope, we all do, but you seem to think that you deserve it, one of the privileged and Jasno better get off his ass doing whatever else he is doing so you can have some inside dope.

He doesnt need to do the blog, and I am thankful that he does, when he does, and I dont feel like he should for my benefit or anyone elses.

If your saying Jasno blog is average, compared to what and then why dont you go to the better product... wait, whose is that? Fitz, where no comments are allowed, Extremeskins... have fun.

Like I said before, you expect to be able to comment uncensored here, but you feel as if jasno should not post someone elses opinion... that is hypocritical

Posted by: Zebra | August 22, 2007 9:41 AM | Report abuse

The pft site has this theory about the pasturing of Trotter being the dry run for the pasturing of McNabb. One of the things they noted was that the Eagles ticket for every game has a different picture of a player on it -- and that this season's tickets don't have a picture of Trotter. Anyone here have their season tickets within reach? Whose pictures are on there for the season? [I realize that requesting someone to post the names of 16 players might be "settling for average" but bear with me, I'm bored, there's no new Skins news yet, and this IS tangentially related to actual Skins football.]

hail to 'em, I see your points. The RI bloggers have the attention span of a hamster on coke, which means they want MORE news, they want it NOW, and it better be REAL!

Posted by: dcsween | August 22, 2007 9:42 AM | Report abuse

... and by "they" I mean "we".

Posted by: dcsween | August 22, 2007 9:44 AM | Report abuse

CaroCanes,

According to NFL.com, in the 2006 preseason, Washington gave up 16 sacks, which was tied for second (Baltimore). Only the Raiders gave up more sacks (17).

So, what do you think now, wise guys?

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 22, 2007 9:45 AM | Report abuse

I miss the old days when we discussed redskins issues not all this bickering about nothing.

Jla posts blogs but most of the time the conversation was steered by the bloggers themselves.

This blog used to be witty, sardonic and positive. What happened?

Posted by: Skinz | August 22, 2007 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Preseason stats are misleading (as if stats weren't inherently misleading ... or used to mislead) because they include numbers from the second half, plus many (most?) teams are trying out stuff in real time (as opposed to game planning to win) and/or still evaluating talent.

Posted by: dcsween | August 22, 2007 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Damn Z. You are bring the heat this morning.

Posted by: jm220 | August 22, 2007 9:50 AM | Report abuse

As for the sacks...

One thing I mentioned a couple of days ago, that got lost in the shuffle and no one commented on was that as good a back as Betts is, he is not very good AT ALL at blocking in the backfield.

I distinctly remember two times on Sat that he completely missed blocking the blitzing corner. I also remember that happending last year. If he's going to be a feature back, he HAS to get better at blocking for our QB!

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | August 22, 2007 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Skinz, not enough disciplined adherence to ITA ... that and the Deputy has been AWOL for a few days.

Posted by: dcsween | August 22, 2007 9:50 AM | Report abuse

SCSF...

THANKS! That's what I thought. We shouldn't read too much into the 8 sacks thus far.

Let's just hope for another injury free regular season for our line!

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | August 22, 2007 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Keep in mind that Jasno is doing the work of 2 reporters at the moment. The blog has to take a back seat.

That said, the timing of the guest blog was odd. It's all good though. As long as the march toward 88,888 continues everyone is happy.

Sean Taylor doesn't like Sara Lee. (Sorry dcsween, I've been very uninspired lately)

Posted by: etrod | August 22, 2007 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Thanks JM;

I wanted to post yesterday, but there was a lot of complaining going on and sometimes complainers just need to complain... today i would like to stem the tide if at all possible.

This blog is fun, but if some people are determined to be upset or angry there is not much that will stop them.

Posted by: Zebra | August 22, 2007 9:56 AM | Report abuse

The point of looking at preseason sacks, sween, is that they don't correlate well with regular season sacks, for the reasons you mention.

The 2007 'Skins are on a pace to have exactly as many sacks in preseason as last year, when they gave up the fewest sacks in the NFC in the regular season.

So all the doom-and-gloom bloggers who say the O-line is porous need to look at the facts.

The conclusion: Buges will give up sacks in the preseason in order to experiment. During the regular season, he plays his men to minimize sacks.

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 22, 2007 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, I just remember when I used to laugh at just about every post. When Haiku, AM2DStix, Queen Bee, Gov et al used to bring the hilarity (sp?). I remember JM telling everyone to stop before he got fired for laughing at work.

Anyway enough of my whining.


Do you think that letting Marshall go was a result of his attitude? JLa seemed to say that was not the case and that Marshall accepted his role but one must wonder.

I am worried that an NFC East team will pick up yet another one of our former MLB's and figure out our D. We haven't been able to stop the Gmen since Pierce got there. (Then again Tiki always ate our lunch)

Posted by: Skinz | August 22, 2007 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Look on the bright side...more guest blogs will get us to 100,000 posts faster.

JLC, I'd like to see more analysis on guard/wr options for the Skins...sort of like you did on DL during the offseason. Also, I'd like to hear some Inside info on Portis' health if it is available. Is he really just "skipping" the preseason as most of us are assuming or does he have legit issues.

I guess we can just wait to see what happens.

Posted by: Glass Half Full? | August 22, 2007 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Z try a morning spin class and P Funk on the i pod.

Skinz where have those days gone? :(

Posted by: jm220 | August 22, 2007 10:01 AM | Report abuse

The level of discourse recently has been disappointing. I don't want to blame Jack in particular (although I will). He has every right to come in here and be a pessimitic/realistic FAN (that's tomato-tomahto to me), BUT anyone who disagrees with him is 'delusional', 'moronic', 'That is the most incomprehensible comment I've ever heard','Wow, my respect for this blog is gone'... and that's just in four hours yesterday.
My personal favorite is (after a rambling half-page of OPINION): 'All that is, is the truth. Sorry if you can't handle it.'

And then you have the gall to complain about the poop in the punch bowl.

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 22, 2007 10:02 AM | Report abuse

I standing up for you SOBs...

I am cracking up constantly......and often the fights are fun too....

I don't know about some of u boobs, but when me and my f2f bros hang out and talk sports we yell, scream, insult, and generally rip it up.....i dont see it much different up here and take the insults, hand wringing with a grain of salt!

Posted by: CHRIS larry | August 22, 2007 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Just came over the ESPN wire:

"Twelve ESPN experts agreed to predict the 2007 division winners, individual award winners and the Super Bowl champion."

Laron Landry is the favorite for defensive rookie of the year (5 of 12 "experts").

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/preview07/news/story?id=2984130

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 22, 2007 10:03 AM | Report abuse

I wasnt around for the glory days, but the dog days of summer were fun.

I am worried about Lemar as well. I think his size was an issue and they wanted a more prototypical MLB.

Seeing what LBF has done in his short time here, maybe they figured they need a prototypical Mike to back him up, and Sartz and Blades and Campbell give more to Specail Teams, and outside backer than Marshall.

Look, we can speculate all we want, but only 3-5 peeps know the real deal.

Posted by: Zebra | August 22, 2007 10:04 AM | Report abuse

And then you have the gall to complain about the poop in the punch bowl.

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 22, 2007 10:02 AM

--Sorry about that. When I see blue water...

Posted by: etrod | August 22, 2007 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Skinz, makes sense that Marshall would not be in the best of spirits. Loses his starting job to free agent Fletcher, knowing he has to compete at WLB with draft pick McIntosh, watching a draft where the Skins pick two linebackers. I'm guessing that must have affected Marshall's mood/attitude/fire, which would manifest itself in his play (like against the Steelers, when he stunk).

Posted by: dcsween | August 22, 2007 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Skinz
I guess I hadn't thought about giving away our check downs and d calls when one of our players goes to another team. From a player standpoint, wouldn't be worried about having to face Lemar, but from the other standpoint...

Here's an insider ? i'd like answered... Do the teams withhold some of the regular season calls, audibles, etc until after they've cut down to 53? Or do they change them weekly? Or what?

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | August 22, 2007 10:05 AM | Report abuse

People! What you doing? Standing on the verge of getting on. Getting it on. Man they don't make music like this anymore.

Posted by: jm220 | August 22, 2007 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Sween- you're on fire this AM, as usual. CCF- that's a great point about Betts and his subpar blocking. I thought Jasno was looking into Betts' fumbling issues also, but I haven't seen anything on it yet. Perhaps I should get off my duff and shoot him an email.

Posted by: D7 | August 22, 2007 10:07 AM | Report abuse

What is this 'spin class' and I pooed you speak of? ;)

The world has just been getting me down lately, and I feel it as my duty to lift up those around me and have a positive life.

Its hard when your habits are completely contrary to those goals.

Posted by: Zebra | August 22, 2007 10:08 AM | Report abuse

--Sorry about that. When I see blue water...

Posted by: etrod | August 22, 2007 10:05 AM

LMGO!


Oh, and Sean Taylor CAN eat just one.

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 22, 2007 10:09 AM | Report abuse

The world has just been getting me down lately, and I feel it as my duty to lift up those around me and have a positive life.

Posted by: Zebra | August 22, 2007 10:08 AM

I would've thought your duty was to eat grass and feed the lions (if you know what I mean)...

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 22, 2007 10:11 AM | Report abuse

SC- nice pull. Even though I hate "Thees"man he always pulls the homer call. He picked Reaper for D-MVP.

Caro- not sure on the holdover but I would think that they would have to change calls if a team picks up Marshall otherwise they are courting disaster.

Posted by: Skinz | August 22, 2007 10:13 AM | Report abuse

It seems that every year, some well liked or well thought of player gets cut or is forced to "retire". If I remember correctly, Jeff Bostic was originally brought into camp late as a long snapper. The player (his name escapes me) he replaced had been with the skins for a long time, but had lost the are of long snapping. Mike Nelms was a great punt returner, but Joe Gibbs could never find another roll for him. It was a sad day when he was cut. It is going to happen to all the players we personally like.

Posted by: Mark (in 21132) | August 22, 2007 10:13 AM | Report abuse

What's with all the negative waves? Hope is supposed to spring eternal, at least at the beginning of the season. This blog is waaaaay too negative, with no sense of history. I remember Gibbs I. I remember 0-5. I also remember THREE Super Bowl victories. I think the man knows a little about what he's doing. And this team is close, real close, to be being very good.

Posted by: Mike Diamond | August 22, 2007 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Sween, I am not sure that I completely agree with the article that brining Godfrey is lack of confidence in BOTH Sartz and Blades. Godfrey was brought to play a strong side linebacker due to Washington's injury, while Blades is a back up at a middle linebacker position. These are two different positions. If Sartz plays strong side then the article might have a point, but Blades plays at a different position and he was a tackling machine this preseason.

Posted by: M | August 22, 2007 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Where does Theisman live? Around here? After getting canned (or at least demoted?) by ESPN and now riding around in The Owner's golf cart in Ashburn, I wonder if he has a future with Red Zebra broadcasting? [Please don't take away Sonny, but even though I love Sam like my grandfather, I would no longer trust him with the garage door opener.]

Posted by: dcsween | August 22, 2007 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Any post with Mike Nelms in it is great. Nelms one of my favorite players of all time. That dude NEVER did a Fair Catch.

Nelms,Alvin,Monte,Art Joe T, where is my boy Joe Washington now and days? Grey cleats and all. Those were the days.

Posted by: Hail to 'em | August 22, 2007 10:18 AM | Report abuse

I love Sam like my grandfather, I would no longer trust him with the garage door opener.]

LMGO! dcsween that was wrong on so many levels. LMGO

Posted by: jm220 | August 22, 2007 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Marshall had one year left on his contract, so if you look at this as a one-year deal, do you agree with the FO that Godfrey is an upgrade over Marshall? I think physically he is an upgrade; To ask Marshall at 225 to fill in for Washington is not realistic; the point of him being able to play SLB was to let Washington play DE/LB on 3rd down, not give up 100 lbs. to the other team's RT on 1st down.
The info that seems to make this all fall into place is the interest from other teams (esp. the eagles). I think their hand was forced a bit.
That makes for an interesting -- if chilling -- comparison to the Duckett deal last year. Remember that one of the alleged side advantages of trading for him was to keep him from going to Philly.

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 22, 2007 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Dream Broadcast Crew. Sonny,Sam, Joe T.

It's sad to listen to Riggins Show and my Mom doesn't kiss my A$$ as much as Larry Michaels does the Skins.

Posted by: Hail to 'em | August 22, 2007 10:21 AM | Report abuse

M, from everything I've heard and read (including before the draft), it surprised me that Sartz got picked BEFORE Blades. Peter King (only giving credit where its due here folks) remarked that the "steal" of the draft was the Skins getting Blades in the 5th round. I also am loving the way the future is looking for Blades. Sartz? I understand that he was a draft pick but that's about how much I've noticed him.

Posted by: dcsween | August 22, 2007 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Why isn't bringing Godfrey in a lack of confidence in Marshall? Based off past performance (never a guarantee of future performance) it's definitely an upgrade.

Unless they were brilliant, neither Sartz nor Blades was going to get much playing time this year anyway.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 22, 2007 10:24 AM | Report abuse

hail, for the life of me I can't figure out why Frank Herzog isn't still calling the play-by-play. No nonsense descriptions of what was going on in real time. [A small tear wells up in the corner of my eye whenever Frank does another pitch for Giants Foods.]

Posted by: dcsween | August 22, 2007 10:25 AM | Report abuse

I don't understand a 'Skins fan who doesn't love ol' Joe. Cocky lil' SJK brought a boatload of great memories, experience, knowlegde and humor to his broadcasts. Milquetoast Jaws and Chim Chim Chirico (sp?!) can't keep up w/ Korn. It's all outta balance. Way to screw up a formula, ESPN...

Posted by: Dik | August 22, 2007 10:27 AM | Report abuse

You guys like listening to Joe T.? Really?

I think he's horrible. He says some really silly things at Times.

"If you wanna win you have to score more points than you opponent....otherwise you just won't win."

"The word "genius" isn't applicable in football. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein."

being my personal favorites but eh. To each their own. I'm excited about Jaws being on MNF though.

I hate saying good things about Uggles current or former but I have to give him props.

Posted by: Skinz | August 22, 2007 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Sartz is the better pro athlete... he was devastating in the Rose Bowl last year. Someone would've grabbed him soon after our pick, just for the USC props.
Blades is going to be a real nice fit for us, but his lack of height was going to limit his attractiveness to some teams. Still, I think the FO was surprised that he was still there for them to pick -- and probably so much higher on their board than any of the OL/DL/WR prospects they had left that they *had* to take him.

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 22, 2007 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Ktalent Kevaluator, the other question is what Godfrey's arrival says about the confidence in Khary Campbell as starter material.

Also, ever noticed how Sam Huff and Admiral Stockdale are never in the same room? All necessary props to both, however, who were outstanding in their respective fields of endeavor.

Posted by: dcsween | August 22, 2007 10:29 AM | Report abuse

I think picking up Godfrey is more of a vote of no-confidence in Sarts and Campbell rather than Blades. A 5-10 middle linebacker is rare, but a 5-10 Sam is unheard of.

I love me some Mike Nelms. He lives down my way and my wife used to nanny for his neighbors. I carried on a 10 minute conversation with him once without knowing who he was. When he introduced myself, I almost had to go find a punch bowl.

Posted by: etrod | August 22, 2007 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Boy, reading this blog is like being in a fast-forward Mormon poly-marriage with a bunch of wives with different personalities. Anger, lashing out, forgiveness, attempts at explanation/compromise, joking, calls for calm, invitations to leave, little alliances, direct one-on-one attacks, bowing-and-scraping, the I-just-don't-get-it card, new anger, hugs, etc. cycled through every five minutes, with old issues/blog posts recurring at odd intervals as different people check in.

Good thing I like that.

Posted by: farstriker | August 22, 2007 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Now if only I could listen to the games online instead of 'em being blacked out. I had to pay like $100 last year to listen to 'em on Real Player. F tha NFL!

Posted by: Dik | August 22, 2007 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Frank Herzog's "Touchdown, Washington Redskins" is one of those signature calls that should give any real skins fan goosebumps. It was taken away from us far too soon.

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 22, 2007 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Skinz, Jaws gets my book based on his film review of Jason Campbell alone. For calling a game, my favorite dudes are still Madden and Al Michael.

Didn't mean to say I actually think Theisman calls a game well, but it would be amusing to have a resident Yogi Berra in the booth. For football insights (Xs and Os), Sonny (like Madden) is the guy I wanna here.

Posted by: dcsween | August 22, 2007 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Don't get me wrong. There was nothing better (well listening wise) than Frank Herzog. I have know idea either but he has handle himself with class as usual.

Perhaps we can use this blog to get him back to where he needs to be.

Larry Michaels is is horrible.

Posted by: Hail to 'em | August 22, 2007 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Boy, reading this blog is like being in a fast-forward Mormon poly-marriage with a bunch of wives with different personalities.

LMGO!!

Posted by: jm220 | August 22, 2007 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Theismann, Mike Patrick and Paul Mcguire on Sunday night ESPN. I don't know what it was but the chemistry between Theismann and McGuire was phenominal. On their own, they're horrible, but put them together and it was magic.

Larry Michael torpedoed Herzog from what I understand. From the moment Snyder bought the team Michael started undermining Frank. I never understood why Sonny and Sam didn't step up on Herzog's behalf.

Posted by: etrod | August 22, 2007 10:43 AM | Report abuse

CnD-couldn't agree more.

DCSween-Hilarious on Huff.

Madden is starting to wear on me though. His "act" (which I hate to call it because I know it's sincere)is like a good song that you listened to way too often. I'm not saying he's reached Chris Berman level or anything but...

Madden should have left when Michaels did. Michaels inebriated, chainsmoking delivery really helped balance out Maddens over-the-top color commentary.


Posted by: Skinz | August 22, 2007 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Khary Campbell is a special-teamer. That makes him a solid pro, but not a suitable substitute for Washington.
The evaluation seems to have been: Washington's dinged up again, Marshall is small, dinged up, and not playing as well, Godfrey lets us address that need with no cap hit, let's pull the trigger.

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 22, 2007 10:44 AM | Report abuse

cload, cutting Marshall ($1M) and adding Godfrey ($1.3M) did have a slight cap hit, but agreed that $300K is essentially a ham sandwich.

Posted by: dcsween | August 22, 2007 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Sween... I was LMAO about the Stockdale reference! Good one!

As for Joey T...Didn't like him as a QB (hated the single face bar, among others) and really don't like him as an announcer. To me he's like Dan Dierdorf. Hardly ever right but never in doubt. Did kinda feel sorry for him in the pregame face time he got. Must feel pretty bad being a local team guy after getting cut from MNF!

Sween,

Didn't see what Jaws had to say about JC in film. What was he saying?

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | August 22, 2007 10:49 AM | Report abuse

"the other question is what Godfrey's arrival says about the confidence in Khary Campbell as starter material."

Its pretty clear K Campbell is a special teams player almost exclusively. That's where he is needed most. And he is coming off of injury last year.

The new guys must be pushing him too. The release of Marshall says as much. The number of good safeties and linebackers for use on teams ... I think Blades and Sartz are in. Its the rest behind them that are competing for a position.

Posted by: periculum | August 22, 2007 10:49 AM | Report abuse

One of the mods at extremeskins, Mark Stevens, has an EXCELLENT post today at the Skins site. http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=27751 Highlights include relatively unnoticed stuff about Frost and Suisham, and some stuff about Collins. I think his point is that the reason Brunell did have a dink-and-dunk game to begin with was b/c the 700 page play book includes a few chapters on dink-and-dunk that Saunders does use ... and that Collins just happens to have a leg up on Brunell in that department.

Posted by: dcsween | August 22, 2007 10:50 AM | Report abuse

"4th, because J.Campbell is not hurt, I'm adopting JLaC's correction to my stance and moving on: "Pittsburgh end Brett Keisel came in free across the left side of the line Saturday, with a mishap between Pucillo and Heyer creating the lane. Neither picked him up or slowed him sufficiently, ...."

"

Sween - Your new point is still completely wrong. Heyer did what he was suppose to. Pucillo didn't. Get off that fence.....

JM220 - I'm doing better today. I just have to keep telling myself patience is a virtue.......

Posted by: 4th | August 22, 2007 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Agree on Madden. I absolutely LOVE the impersonator that does him. Madden really does say a whole bunch of stuff that is total nonsense.

YOU HAVE TO WATCH THIS...

http://www.dailyhaha.com/_vids/Frank_Cliendo_John_Madden.htm

http://www.frankcaliendo.com/

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | August 22, 2007 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: dcsween | August 22, 2007 10:55 AM | Report abuse

"This article made the contrary point -- that bringing in Godfrey displayed lack of confidence in the draft picks, Blades and Sartz, because the reason for the overall move (cut Marshall/add Godfrey) was to cover the strong side till Marcus got better ..."

I AGAIN ASSERT that the new younger guys at linebacker and safety have indeed impressed that much. BUT MUCH MORE SO ON special teams. GODFREY was a starter on one the league's best 3-4 defense's IN THE INTERIOR. That means GODFREY can play all THREE positions at almost the same level as FLETCHER, WASHINGTON, AND MCINTOSH. Grilliams does not like throwing rookies into the mix as starters their first year. Exceptions are Taylor and Landry. Even at that position they have many well qualified veterans just in case. PLUS GODFREY had FOUR SACKS and 59 tackles in 14 games. 49 unassisted. That beats Marshall, and McIntosh for that matter. The sacks are better than FLETCHER and WASHINGTON.

Posted by: periculum | August 22, 2007 10:56 AM | Report abuse

And that's not even his best Madden stuff. He used to call sportstalk980 once a week ?Wednesday evenings and had a weekly Madden chalk talk that was really funny.

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | August 22, 2007 10:58 AM | Report abuse

You and your family are in my prayers 4th.

Posted by: jm220 | August 22, 2007 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Based on everything I have heard, Catfish (Lemar Marshall) did not have any kind of attitude problem. He was the ultimate team player and very well liked by the players and coaches. The players were shocked about his release.

Seems he was undersized and not playing as well and the Skins think they have other talents they want to develop - wanted to cut him now so he could get picked up by another team.

Posted by: Lisa | August 22, 2007 11:00 AM | Report abuse

I can't stand to listen to Madden anymore and gave up on Berman years ago. I hate to say it.. But... Aikman is probably the best right now.

Joe T. (you gotta love 'em) yeah, true, sometimes he has no idea what he is talking about, but he is still Joe T. WHAT!!!?? You didn't like the single bar face mask? That shti is CLASSIC! Yellow 30! Yellow 30!

Seriously just reading TOUCHDOWN WASHINGTON REDSKINS gave me chill bumps.

Posted by: Hail to 'em | August 22, 2007 11:02 AM | Report abuse

I have a CAPS-LOCK KEY I can turn on AT WILL.

AND I'm not afraid TO USE IT.


(I know, I know, it's our only way to emphasize, often valid, but I couldn't resist. Keep the good stuff coming, periculum)

Posted by: farstriker | August 22, 2007 11:02 AM | Report abuse

mmmm.. hhaaaam saaaandwich... achlachalachlachl.

We're talkin' alot of TV play by play guys - but who does good radio pbp anymore? Dolphins used to have a couple good announcers - I think they just traded w/ Buffalo at one point. Their guys now are HORRIBLE.

In baseball, it's a tenet of a great announcer to have come from radio - football doesn't have that same tradition. Sam & Sonny as color/analyst are the best I've ever heard.

Who are your favorite football pbp guys - past or present...?

:)

Posted by: Dik | August 22, 2007 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Please, a moment of silence for Mike Espy...this guy had heart and hands and a spot on the roster till he pulled, so to speak, a Prielou. Going on IR isn't bad I just hope we do not address the WR next offseason too much and let this guy get away. He was also doing punt returns. Look a out ARE.

Posted by: Burg w/ a U | August 22, 2007 11:03 AM | Report abuse

I am with dik, theisman rulz....

Jawz has sucked, cliche after cliche....he is a film guy not a booth guy.....F JAWZ!!!!!!!!!

Mormon analogy was post of the day so far! nice work pallidin!

Posted by: cHRis larry | August 22, 2007 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Sween,

Thanks. Don't know how I missed that. Must have been the divorce thing last fall....

That is the type of stuff I'd LOVE to see/hear more of. Someone who knows really assessing where things stand.

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | August 22, 2007 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Hmm, remember that early last year the OLine was struggling, no real running game and spotty pass protection -- that's where Brunell got the dink and dunk offense going. Now maybe Saunders took away part of the vertical offense (because of Brunell's arm strength, lack of protection, or lack of understanding???), but let's face it, it wasn't until they made the switch to Campbell, used a bunch of max-protect plays, and let him throw long that the offense improved.
Collins may have better arm strength, and probably has a slightly better grasp of the offense. But elite athletes -- and Brunell was one of them -- have advantages.
I cheer for Collins as a Michigan man, but I wouldn't be surprised if Brunell emerges as second string; I'm really not looking forward to the 'blogs of anguish' over the decision on who's second string QB...

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 22, 2007 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Does this impressive special teams play mean the end of Jimoh in Washington? I hope so.

Posted by: Glass Half Full? | August 22, 2007 11:08 AM | Report abuse

EXACTLY SWEEN,

"Lord knows that no one dare ever question St. Joe, but did it occur to anyone that the Head Coach might be voicing support for a young, developing player regardless of what he/Buges may really think is accurate? If preseason is for learning and development, and an undrafted rookie is out there learning and being developed -- i.e., given the liberty to make mistakes for which he is only required to learn and develop, not to bear 'blame' -- then maybe St. Joe might be telling Big Media to back off. JLaC's article used the word 'island' "

HMMM, NO I think JASNO made it a LOCK that Gibbs would take him to task when he made the claim that people within the Redskin's organization, at Redskins park quietly agreed with his unassailable experts. (AND NOBODY ONE QUESTIONS ST. JOE? WHO ARE these experts? HOW MANY SUPERBOWLS?)

That's when GFitz brought the whole thing to Gibbs attention I am willing to bet ... there's dissension at Redskins Park and its leaking out into the Media. I am certain those guys were steaming when they read that one little sentence.

Posted by: periculum | August 22, 2007 11:11 AM | Report abuse

"Does this impressive special teams play mean the end of Jimoh in Washington? I hope so."

Apparently Jimoh has had a great camp on teams side of things. Have to see if someone who covers better improves in that area and beats him out. Westbrook perhaps?

Posted by: periculum | August 22, 2007 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Mormons = funny

Thiesman = funny

Arrington knocking Aikman into the broadcast booth... = hil-frekin'-arious.

"I'm Batman!"

Posted by: Dik | August 22, 2007 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Seriously just reading TOUCHDOWN WASHINGTON REDSKINS gave me chill bumps.

Posted by: Hail to 'em | August 22, 2007 11:02 AM

Just three a week, every week, that's all I ask. Oh, and the occasional one on D.

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 22, 2007 11:14 AM | Report abuse

F chRIs larry! (but in the good sense of the term).

Actually, I don't really have much of an opinion of Jaws as a booth guy -- it was mostly love by association with his film review of Jason Campbell. Other than that, Jaws' DKNJ glasses seem a little womanish. That's the sum total of my views on the guy.

The other thought on Godfrey is that I hope the Skins get a solid 3-4 starts out of him (during Marcus' convalescence) for his $1.3M. [Peri, easy on the BOOFY caps there buddy.]

Posted by: dcsween | August 22, 2007 11:14 AM | Report abuse

My take on MB last year was this:

Coaches knew he didn't have the arm strength to make the long outs, downfield passes. Therefore, they shortened his playbook and the field. Defenses saw and knew this. They then stacked the box, making it impossible to run. Which led to a lot of third and longs and 3 and outs.

JC comes in, can make those throws. Makes those throws. Defenses had to respect it more. Had to take defenders out of the box. This led to more running room.

Discuss....

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | August 22, 2007 11:15 AM | Report abuse

"You guys like listening to Joe T.? "

I CAN STILL HEAR THAT CONSTANT CHORUS AT RFK ... "KATHY LEE" "KATHY LEE" "KATHY LEE" ...

Posted by: periculum | August 22, 2007 11:17 AM | Report abuse

(For an uninspired etrod...)

The Sun never sets on Sean Taylor, cause Sean Taylor would kick its a**.

Posted by: MV Dame | August 22, 2007 11:19 AM | Report abuse

I'm sitting here wondering if Palmer will see some action this weekend given that JC will be sitting this one out.

Posted by: periculum | August 22, 2007 11:19 AM | Report abuse

FYI, booger sugar hamsters:

We're within 500 of 77,777...

Posted by: MV Dame | August 22, 2007 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Sween;

You know the part that I hate to admit about that film review... the line is wasting the QB and WR's abilities.

So Saunders draws up the plays, Buges coaches the line and Gibbs says they are fighting their guts out... who of the three go thier assignemtn correct?

Sad to say, but Saunders. Buges might bo out of his league in todays NFL... once I figure out what Gibbs actually does for the team I will elt you know if he is doing it well.

Posted by: Zebra | August 22, 2007 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Either I am about to die or win the lotto... I have been laughing and agreeing with...

dcsween (Jaws' DKNJ glasses seem a little womanish) and...

Chris Larry (he gave me blogger street cred eariler). WTF

So actually Cris Collinsworth is pretty good too. What ever happened to Merlin Olsen and Dick Enberg???

Posted by: Hail to 'em | August 22, 2007 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Peri, Skins site says still no decision on whether JC takes snaps this week.

In the Pittsburgh game, I noticed Askew running off the field and wondered who he was. He is a DT (6'5") and he is now the lone Skin from Michigan State (woo hoo!). The other thing that I noticed is that he even sort of LOOKS LIKE Marshall. http://www.redskins.com/team/profile.jsp?id=120 There can only be one Highlander.

Posted by: dcsween | August 22, 2007 11:24 AM | Report abuse

I'm sure we've gone over this, but...What in the heck does LMGO mean?

Even my Internet Lingo (dork) roommate doesn't know.

Posted by: WaPoLiveFan16 | August 22, 2007 11:26 AM | Report abuse

"The other thought on Godfrey is that I hope the Skins get a solid 3-4 starts out of him (during Marcus' convalescence) for his $1.3M. [Peri, easy on the BOOFY caps there buddy.]"

It sounds like he was good enough to push any of the 3 starters if they slack off. The way Grilliams uses packages I am sure you will seem him in there. But, let's face it the reason they went to him and pushed the notion was because Washington went down. And they weren't ready to go with either a rookie or Marshall.

Posted by: periculum | August 22, 2007 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Ok people lighten up a little about the guest blogger. The questions he raised in my eyes are legit. He brought up a very good point about derrick dockery. Why when you trade for an receiver who is known for just "nice" catches a 6 year deal worth about 25mil (Brandon Lloyd) or a 'special' guy is most famous for a non QB to throw a TD pass in a super bowl, about a 7 year deal worth about 30-33mil (Randel El). I could have made an argument about Archuletta (whateva), but the skins severed ties with him in the off-season. The money the skins blew on randel el and lloyd are recockulous (like dat). They could've used the dough to sign dock to an extention or someting or just used that to persue leonard davis who was picked up by the boys. I find it funny every offseason this region is full of hope and excitment, for what? Maybe its because I'm 23 years old and really can't recall the glory days, maybe if I was 28 or older, maybe. I fell in love with the skins when I was seven and witnessed the shalacking of the Buffalo Bills. Every since then nothing but, nothing but, nothing but L's. Oh yeah, and two playoff appearences since then. Whoa! it ain't hard to tell that after Gibbs 1.0 ended he took something with him. Ne way I see a between a 7-10 win team you know how the skins are with some execution down the stretch in the game and season are critcal, that is why the range is so large (consider it's football). I would just like to see a return to the playoffs first and then maybe we can nething after that.

Posted by: vadude336 | August 22, 2007 11:27 AM | Report abuse

MV Dame, if anyone was ever inspired, etrod was def inspired about learning he just met Mike Nelms:

" ... When he introduced myself, I almost had to go find a punch bowl."

Posted by: etrod | August 22, 2007 10:30 AM

Posted by: dcsween | August 22, 2007 11:27 AM | Report abuse

LMGO = Laughing My Guts Out

Posted by: MV Dame | August 22, 2007 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Cload

The offense is simply better under a QB that uses the whole field and is willing to step up in the pocket, wait for recievers to come open and throw the ball into tight coverage. This is what Brunell is not capable of doing anymore. Collins may or may not be better but for differnt reasons, JC needs to stay healthy i think we all know that, neither collins or Brunell can do much for us over an extended period....

Posted by: Old School | August 22, 2007 11:28 AM | Report abuse

LMGO : Laugh My Guts Out.
LMAO: Laugh My SJK Off.

HMMM for this blog: LMSJKO kewl ... LOL

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2007 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Hail (guud posts 2day,btw),

Serioulsy - AFC announcers?!? arrrgh!

lmgo.

Posted by: Dik | August 22, 2007 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Caro -- except that doesn't explain the lack of a running game. It was "always" third-and-x (where x > 3)... Even a decent 5-6 yard carry on first down seemed to be followed by a 2yd loss on second.
I think teams decided that the Oline could be blitzed successfully, which resulted in Saunders calling more hot reads/dink & dunk (and in a lot of throwaway passes).
In my memory, the Oline started to firm up before Campbell came in (after the "let's play Redskins football" speech)...

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 22, 2007 11:30 AM | Report abuse

"Peri, Skins site says still no decision on whether JC takes snaps this week."

sween,
The odds of JC taking snaps this week is pretty slim, based on what he said in Jasno's article.

Redskins Notes: ..."Today was my first time trying to jog and run on it, and it wasn't where I thought it would be," Campbell said. He remains hopeful for a recovery by next week.

Posted by: Stumped | August 22, 2007 11:30 AM | Report abuse

"Peri, Skins site says still no decision on whether JC takes snaps this week"

He tried running on it yesterday and it wasn't where he expected it to be was how he put it. He could be taking a page out of CP's book. Waiting for the OL to thrash things out and get in synch.

I suspect you will hear Gibbs say he is out. I would go ahead and try playing Palmer at some point. Might as well see what the worst scenario looks like.

Posted by: periculum | August 22, 2007 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Stumped, OK, I guess so. Sheesh, its been almost 3.5 days since the hit ... what's his knee waiting for? We don't have the patience for this! Btw, time to whip out the turban.

Posted by: dcsween | August 22, 2007 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Re: Lester Burnham from yesterday afternoon

Jason,

I would read this blog all season long if only for the references to Entourage and The Wire, which, by the way. I saw parts of the first three episodes thanks over the weekend. Lots of familiar faces and I really think that this might be the best since season #1.

Posted by: Lester Burnham | August 22, 2006 04:55 PM

Posted by: MV Dame | August 22, 2007 11:34 AM | Report abuse

You need more than 2 wide receivers to have a vertical game. They only have 2: Moss and Cooley. Three if you play Thrash. Otherwise its dink and dunk. Expect to see Thrash in there a lot.

Posted by: periculum | August 22, 2007 11:34 AM | Report abuse

An MV Dame sighting. Guess you're coming up for some air? You're not a rabbit... gotta rest that thing at some point!

Posted by: 4-12 | August 22, 2007 11:35 AM | Report abuse

http://redskins.scout.com/2/670882.html

Notable piece:

"
...Lemar Marshall played for the Redskins for five years, led the team in tackles in 2005, started at two different linebacker spots, played on special teams and was good in the locker room. Yet when they released him, they buried it underneath the signings of Randall Godfrey and Jerel Myers.

They gave Marshall just one sentence at the end of the release. Not good. Contrast that with the Eagles who held a press conference for Jeremiah Trotter. Granted, Trotter made Pro Bowls there and no one expected a press conference. But he deserved more than just one sentence.

...Coach Joe Gibbs was upset with a story in the Washington Post today, which discussed the troubles on the left side of the line and Stephon Heyer in particular. The point of the story was that the Redskins erred in how they constructed the line and it also took jabs at Heyer, saying how he wasn't ready. Well, duh.

The story wasn't exactly earth-shattering and was quite obvious. That's nothing against the story, but it didnt' warrant an upset response. Yet Gibbs defended Heyer after practice. And the coaches have talked about how it was Mike Pucillo's fault that Brett Keisel got through and hit Jason Campbell. Sorry, not buying it. It's clear that Heyer took too wide a step to the outside, allowing too big of a gap inside.

Let's just say others in the building agree with that. The Redskins made a mistake by not properly addressing the guard situation and the line depth and it's biting them in the behind. It'll be much, much better when Chris Samuels returns.

"

Posted by: 4th Floor | August 22, 2007 11:35 AM | Report abuse

I used to be a "blog hater" (and Jasno hater) last season and posted a few comments about it then (under a different name), but continued to stay and just read. In that time, I've come to realize that this blog in indeed a community of 'Skins fans from all over talkin'/arguin'/discussin' the 'Skins and other interests. That is what makes it a "community". If all you're looking for is pure football talk, go to CBS Sportsline or one of the others. If you want dynamic interaction in a "family" sort-of way, this is your place. I have to admit, reading this blog made the off-season pass by MUCH quicker. Thanks to all you "blog hijackers" for keeping my spring months entertaining.

Posted by: N.C.INCR.N. | August 22, 2007 11:37 AM | Report abuse

I'm amazed to see all the hamsters coming out of the wood-work. The weak guest post is over 400 comments.

The OL is weak, the balanced running/passing gamed helped them late season last year (in addition to Soup's arm), but it's needs serious work.

Posted by: Stumped (no turban) | August 22, 2007 11:40 AM | Report abuse

OldS -- of course. But is Brunell 'not capable', or 'not able'... he isn't the solution, but if JC went down would he be the better replacement? If he's not capable of making the throws, then that's the answer -- give him a clipboard, a title of 'special deputy assistant coach -- quarterback quality control, and move on. If he's simply not able to elevate the performance of the players around him anymore, that's why he got a pay cut.

Posted by: cload and daggar | August 22, 2007 11:40 AM | Report abuse

77,310

Posted by: MV Dame | August 22, 2007 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Should non-posters be charged? And we can split the revenue?

Posted by: 4th | August 22, 2007 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Sean Taylor's watch doesn't TELL him what time it is,it asks is it O.K. for it to be 11:44 right now.

Posted by: dawglbs | August 22, 2007 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Oops, had my baby on my lap when I was typing.

Posted by: N.C.ICUR.N. | August 22, 2007 11:44 AM | Report abuse

gotta rest that thing at some point!

LMGO!!

Posted by: jm220 | August 22, 2007 11:44 AM | Report abuse

I think the dink and dunk stuff had more to do with Brunell's inability to run the offense than anything. What was more frustrating than having him take a 5 or 7 step drop and then stand there patting the ball for 5 seconds before dumping off to a back?

He's just not the type of drop back passer that the offense needs. His game has always been a 3 step drop or roll out. in order to get the ball down field because, at 6-1, he can't see over his line. Even in '05 when he had success, it was all on roll-outs and 3 step drops.

Forget throwing anything over the middle. He'd have to roll out and throw across his body to do it and we know how well that works out.

MV Dame, LMGO

Posted by: etrod | August 22, 2007 11:45 AM | Report abuse

If we actually plan on keeping Brunell there is no good reason to play Palmer in the preseason. If he plays well, some team like the Falcons will pick him up when we try to put him on the practice squad. See the Ravens and Derek Anderson.

Now, if Brunell has a chance of being released/traded, play Palmer all you want.

Posted by: Glass Half Full? | August 22, 2007 11:46 AM | Report abuse

It starts with Brunell the lefty. They are having enough trouble protecting a mobile right handed QB. Brunell in there for JC seems more than a bit risky.

Posted by: periculum | August 22, 2007 11:46 AM | Report abuse

...now if they'd only fix the server...

Posted by: Dik | August 22, 2007 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Wow, you guys have been really BYGO.

One note. A lot of people have been critizing Buges. If you talk to Samuels he'll tell you that Buges saved his career. And he did. Before Buges came, Samuels would always commit stupid penalties and stupid mistakes. Same with Dockery. And speaking of Dockery, how people forget how terrible he was when he first became the starter.

He kept falling down. Everytime he went to pull, he fell on his butt. Can I say butt on this blog or should I have said SJK?

Posted by: the don | August 22, 2007 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Cload

What I see from brunell is a lack of "will"....the courage to stand in to keep the play alive.... that is whats gone...I think at this point he is kidding himself about what it takes,he has false courage, he has convinced himself but deep down he knows....thats what I see....I 'm sure if he were allowed to wear the yellow no contact jersey you would see him make all the throws its not his arm its his "will"

Posted by: Old School | August 22, 2007 11:47 AM | Report abuse

C&D

That's exactly my point. I thought there was no running game and it didn't work so well prior to JC taking over BECAUSE of MB's inability to threaten the D deep.

The opposing D would have 8-9 guys in the box. Didn't have to worry about getting beat deep so the safeties and corners could creep up to stuff the run, which they did. Bringing in JC changed that.

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | August 22, 2007 11:47 AM | Report abuse


LMSJKO

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2007 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Sean Taylor's watch doesn't TELL him what time it is,it asks is it O.K. for it to be 11:44 right now.

Posted by: dawglbs | August 22, 2007 11:44 AM

Best one in a long time.

Posted by: etrod | August 22, 2007 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Also, Portis commented on the radio a while back about the blocking schemes that the team used when his was running. They later switch the schemes and Betts picked up a lot of yards.

Any way Portis said that in the old scheme, Dockery would always run and fall on his SJK.

Posted by: the don | August 22, 2007 11:48 AM | Report abuse

"That's exactly my point. I thought there was no running game and it didn't work so well prior to JC taking over BECAUSE of MB's inability to threaten the D deep."

He can still go play action deep. He just can't do the deep slants. To do the play action thing you need lots of wide outs who can get open and actually catch the ball plus great protection.

Posted by: periculum | August 22, 2007 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Oops, had my baby on my lap when I was typing.

Me, too! (heh heh)

Posted by: MV Dame | August 22, 2007 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Can't stand Collinsworth. He has decent insights and isn't a bad speaker, but I just can't stand his tone- it's like he works extra hard to sound like this gruff, grizzly-voiced tough guy. Drop the act pal.

Posted by: D7 | August 22, 2007 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Sean Taylor doesn't need a watch, because
"At the tone, the time will ALWAYS be Sean Taylor."

Posted by: 4-12 | August 22, 2007 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Bugel isn't the problem. He helped coach and build the SD line that last year went 14-2. Nuff said.

The problem is depth and talent. Bugel has been trying to find backup lineman for the starters since he came. Wade is the best they've found so far. Heyer appears to be following. Armstrong.

At guard they lack one starter and depth. At center with Pucillo and Tucker they are covered. Kili Lefotu apparently hasn't panned out. I never hear his name as a possibility for the left guard spot. He is the last draft pick they have for the OL.

Posted by: periculum | August 22, 2007 11:58 AM | Report abuse

They did a shot of Madden the other night and I'm like (no offence, but) the guy looks like he can die any minute. I looked so confused too. I'm like wow. The ravages of time.

Every broadcast he makes just a little less sense.

But video game is ok.

Posted by: the don | August 22, 2007 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Peri,
I'd have to say I disagree with you about MB being able to throw the ball deep last year. He never did it. Now granted, you do have to have WR who can get open but if as a D you know that the QB can't make certain throws, who cares if they're open? And that's what I'm trying to say. MB couldn't make throws over the middle deep, or deep outs. Made the offense to unidimensional. Changing the QB to someone with a strong arm did make a difference IMHO.

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | August 22, 2007 11:59 AM | Report abuse

let me restate the positive ....the line in the nfl is very very thin ...one of the things that makes it the best league in the world....all teams including the Pats have potential holes if something goes wrong in a spot were a team is weak or thin ....you just don't know year to year.stability, good young qb, remerging defense all good signs ....not sayn'

Posted by: Old School | August 22, 2007 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Sean Taylor doesn't have a watch. He has a precise targeting system as any good anti-ballcarrier-ballistic missile should.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2007 12:00 PM | Report abuse

buges rulz, haters are morons

Posted by: chRis larry | August 22, 2007 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Sean Taylor's watch tells how much time you have left.

Posted by: etrod | August 22, 2007 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Old School speaks to truth. For all the everything that they we think they are, I'm not so sure I would be crowing the Patriots if Brady goes down (like McNabb or Carson Palmer down). Same with Peyton Manning and the Colts.

Posted by: dcsween | August 22, 2007 12:04 PM | Report abuse

N.C.INCR.N.
Right On!

Posted by: Stumped (still no turban) | August 22, 2007 12:04 PM | Report abuse

"MB couldn't make throws over the middle deep, or deep outs. Made the offense to unidimensional. "

Which still doesn't preclude fades and play action. Last year he had shoulder problems. He may still be recovering from those. But hopefully his throws will be better.

If Billy Kilmer and weak-armed Theismann could go play action so can Brunell. But you have to have receivers who can make the go patterns go. YOU HAVE THREE: 1. Moss, 2. Cooley, 3. Thrash

Posted by: periculum | August 22, 2007 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Are you effin kidding me - 1.3 mill over 1 million for an older, out-of-shape player?!? WTF?!?

Posted by: David | August 22, 2007 12:06 PM | Report abuse

peri, ARE and Lloyd were open (alot) on the intermediate and deep routes last year.

Posted by: dcsween | August 22, 2007 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya this preseason stuff is killing me.

On a side note, looks like I will be flying into MD for the last game of the year... against Dallas!!!!

Posted by: Inigo Montoya | August 22, 2007 12:16 PM | Report abuse

You can see that I'm a MB hater (as a player -- he's a very classy and top notch person). With that said, i do think his throws this preseason appear to have more zip on the ball than last.

But digest this...
When Collins did so well against the Titans, everyone said it meant nothing because he should do well (being the cagy veteran) against people who won't be in the NFL in 2 weeks. MB played against those same type of players against the Steelers and simply couldn't get it done. Not that his receivers helped him out much but still, no one would argue he looked sharp.

And the fades and play actions you talk about sound like what - dink and dunk which DID NOT WORK (except against the Texans).

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | August 22, 2007 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Peri,

And hopefully MB won't have to make any throws this year! :)

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | August 22, 2007 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Should read

Hopefully MB doesn't have to make ANY throws this year...

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | August 22, 2007 12:21 PM | Report abuse

JM, you actually lose at Madden? I just hit the reset button.

Posted by: C2 | August 21, 2007 11:55 AM

I would HOPE that u two are both playing on the All Madden level with this kinda talk. 11-5?...reset button?....where is the realism in that?

Every year i go undefeated with whoever the skins have on all pro. Only the last two years have i taken the team all the way 19-0 on all madden. After the season starts, and they update the roster, im sure theyll be the team to beat. As soon as Cambell shows his talent. Sigh...sadly enough i have yet to get the new Madden.....damn kids and their diapers and clothes and supplies. Theyr worse than FN pets.

HAIL!!

Posted by: skinnyntenny | August 22, 2007 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Sean Taylor invented time and thereby, time travel.

He wanted to find out who really shot JFK, so he traveled back in the time he invented to texas. Arriving just as the shots were fired, he speared the bullets before they struck the president.

JFK's head exploded out of pure amazement.

Posted by: Dik | August 22, 2007 12:34 PM | Report abuse

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=259643

Thought I'd pass this along. Most is well known but the part about Chris Samuels and LFB are interesting.

Posted by: Skinz | August 22, 2007 12:34 PM | Report abuse

skinnyntenny LMGO

Posted by: jm220 | August 22, 2007 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Man, I am just blogging my guts out!

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | August 22, 2007 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Ah, whinging about Mark Brunell. We just turned the clock back about 9 months, haven't we?

I hate beating on dead horses, but now that we've discovered jm220's hammers were made by Fisher Price, you got to be sure - either the physical trauma or the lead poisoning will catch up with the horses, but they'll take a while. Brunell, I believe, still has some level of throwing power left in his arm. I think he had it last year, and it seems it's a little better this year. That wasn't the problem.

Mark's problem is how he reacts to defensive pressure. He really just didn't trust the line to block for him - now, whether it was from experience in Jacksonville or an age-enhanced sense of his own mortality, I don't know. He never stepped up into the pocket, and never waited until the optimal time to throw the ball and soak up the hit. He always hung outside of the pocket, and would start running at the whiff of pressure. He would then start running and then trying to throw on the run like he were Michael Vick - and end up tossing a pass (that probably made a 'FTHPPHBBLTLT' sound if you listened closely enough) either out of bounds or to the receiver that was conveniently 3 yards behind the line for the defenses to run down and tackle for a negative gain.

He wasn't sacked much (which I think sort of kept that sacks allowed number artificially low for the offensive line, much to Hickory Dickory Dockery's benefit, for one), but he wasn't effective, either. When he scrambled, he pretty much canned the quick passing for short and medium gains, and by throwing on the run, he'd pretty much reduced his range to the last option possible. Unless Papa Mark's got a brand new bag, I don't see that changing too much either, this year.

Posted by: FlimFlam | August 22, 2007 12:36 PM | Report abuse

"JFK's head exploded out of pure amazement."

The eyes of Texas are upon you ...

Holy LMSJKO

Posted by: periculum | August 22, 2007 12:37 PM | Report abuse

"Unless Papa Mark's got a brand new bag, I don't see that changing too much either, this year."

If it looks like the team could actually go pretty far this year I suspect you'll see a spry 35 year old with a limber and more than ready arm. I think I'd rather count on him than Collins just because of all the experience he has had and all that Collins has been precluded from these many years.

Posted by: periculum | August 22, 2007 12:40 PM | Report abuse

I don't recall how we got on the MB thing again and it is a bit of a dead horse, BUT....He may be the # 2 QB. And he appears to be the same ineffective QB that he has been since he got here.

I agree with the assessment that he is less willing to stay in the pocket and ineffective out of it (definitely doesn't have the speed he used to). But I maintain, for whatever reason, he NEVER made the throws downfield or across the middle or the deep outs. Was it play calling (possibly)? If so, did they only call plays that he could throw? Likely.

Just trying to restate my arguments why I don't think MB would be a good #2, pretty much saying that whatever it is that TC does it'd have to be better than MB.

Posted by: CaroCanesFan | August 22, 2007 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Dateline Bangkok... bangkokben- Friend of yours?

Posted by: 4-12 | August 22, 2007 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Number 1 - No. The line will come together when Samuels is back.

Number 2 - No. Collins knows the offense, any other backup would need a year or 2 to learn it.

Number 3 - Yes. The switch from Brunell to JC was a major upheaval in the passing game midseason. Now they will click better.

Number 4 - No. But it doesn't matter as much as long as the LBs and DBs get their blitzes in.

Number 5 - No. "If they could catch the ball, they'd be wide receivers".

P.S. Cutting Marshall totally stupefies me. He's younger(30 vs. 34), cheaper($1mill. vs. $1.3mill), in better shape (Godfrey was in no camp about to retire), and far more knowledgeable of the defense (knows all 3 LB positions) than Randall Godfrey...and he can play special teams...cutting him isn't the end of the world but I just don't get it.

Posted by: pfunk | August 22, 2007 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Where are jason and cindy? I'm surprised with preseason in full mode that we haven't heard from them in while. Maybe i'm just getting spoiled. Hope the redskins didn't ban jlc from the park after joe got mad

Posted by: Dante | August 22, 2007 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Whoever doesn't turn it over should be #2

Posted by: Dik | August 22, 2007 12:44 PM | Report abuse

As cambell goes...so goes the team. I think we can pretty much agree on that.

Asking whether you prefer MB or TC is like asking if you prefer Syphilis or Gonorrhea.

Posted by: Skinz | August 22, 2007 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Dateline Bangkok... bangkokben- Friend of yours?

Posted by: 4-12 | August 22, 2007 12:44 PM

D'oh. link would help...

http://www.bangkokpost.com/breaking_news/breakingnews.php?id=121033

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2007 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Question where did everyone see the comments on Joe being mad at jlc? i must have missed it somewhere

Thanks

Posted by: Dante | August 22, 2007 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Who said old men can't get it done? Got to love this story.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2986313

Skinz that is just down right mean. LMGO

Posted by: jm220 | August 22, 2007 12:48 PM | Report abuse

"Dateline Bangkok... bangkokben- Friend of yours?"

Damn another guy who eats at that Pizza Hut in the mall in Bangkok. Now I'm jealous!!!

Still betcha you haven't tried the great place out by the backup
Satellite Control Center for ThaiComm ... mmmmmmmmmmm
Okay I'm hungry now.

Posted by: periculum | August 22, 2007 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | August 22, 2007 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Janso,

Any response to the Gibbs presser this morning? He kind of called you out, in a roundabout way, which I thought was completely and utterly absurd.

No other team in the history of professional sports has gone out of their way to rebuff the media this much. It's comical, and just adds to the 3-ring circus.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | August 22, 2007 12:56 PM | Report abuse

"(dpa) - A 43-year-old Thai man was found dead wearing 15 bras and a mini-skirt belonging to his estranged wife, news reports said Wednesday.

Jaran Khadphano was found dead Tuesday from a suspected heart attack at his home in Roi Et, 400 kilometres north-east of Bangkok, the Thai-language Khao Sod newspaper reported.

Relatives of Jaran, who formerly worked as an optician in Bangkok, told police he had been suffering from depression since his wife left him for another man and had been taking painkillers washed down with coffee several times a day.

Doctor Thanakorn Klangsaeng of Roi Et Hospital said he suspected Jaran had died of a heart attack. There was no immediate explanation as to why the deceased was wearing his wife's clothes, which he had brought back with him from Bangkok after the couple's separation."
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Should have just gone to the Pizza Hut and ordered Clay Pots. MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Posted by: periculum | August 22, 2007 12:58 PM | Report abuse

20 bucks the Skins draft Mike Flynt in the first round next year...

Posted by: MV Dame | August 22, 2007 12:59 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Dante | August 22, 2007 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Beep, Beep!

New post.

Posted by: talent evaluator | August 22, 2007 1:01 PM | Report abuse

"Tommy got his tonsils out" by The Replacements. Where are my bonus points?

Posted by: bcm | August 22, 2007 1:07 PM | Report abuse

"Tommy? Who is that, did he get his tonsiles out? (Bonus points if you get tyhe reference!"

The Replacements - Let it Be
Where are my bonus points?

Posted by: Paul Westerberg | August 22, 2007 1:09 PM | Report abuse

He always hung outside of the pocket, and would start running at the whiff of pressure. He would then start running and then trying to throw on the run like he were Michael Vick - and end up tossing a pass (that probably made a 'FTHPPHBBLTLT' sound if you listened closely enough) either out of bounds or to the receiver that was conveniently 3 yards behind the line for the defenses to run down and tackle for a negative gain.

Holy SJK!! Im still laughing about it..3 minutes later....mainly the 'FTHPPHBBLTLT" part.....good times...good times...

As for the recent issues, I think everyone is blowing all this way out of line.

MB is not gonna get traded...period...JG is not that stupid.

I think Bugel and Co. are ok with the lineman they have. Although i didnt watch the Tenn game, except for a few plays in the Pitts game i thought the starting line did pretty decent. But is the running game suffering for a lack of Dockery or Samuels?...or was it that Tenn and Pitts have good run D?

Regardless, JC is gonna be our savior!!! The Fukr is accurate as anyone ive ever seen. More accurate than any quarterback i remember them having since i was born. Maybe Brad Johnson comes in second...im getting off the subject...

HAIL!!!

Posted by: skinnyntenny | August 22, 2007 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Nice blog! One word - GM. I'll never be the same die-hard Redskin fan again until we get a competent GM or Snyder goes away. Seems like I'll have a long time to wait, which is why I have a lot of dislike for Snyder. He's ruined the team and disrespects the fans. Not much to salvage anymore!

Posted by: Rob P | August 22, 2007 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Well hindsight is always 20/20. Dock in my opionin was so over paid. If thats what he wanted then let him go. Though he showed to be solid guard for us I dont think Dock deserved that type of money. We did the right thing not over paying him to keep him.

Second your being to harsh with the offense. I know at times they have looked a little shaky but this is Campbell's first season at starting QB. Honestly you have to give the offnese an INC and here's why:

1. Portis is your 1 running back not playing.

2. Sammuels has also not played a down, I think with his presence on the left side he could help support who ever the starting left guard is.

3. The Wr's have not played together this preseason.

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