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Shanahan stops practice to recharge team

Frustrated with the Redskins' performance, Coach Mike Shanahan stopped practice to express his feelings to the team Tuesday at Redskins Park.

Coaches and players encircled Shanahan as he delivered his message about remaining focused during the final days of training camp, which ends Thursday. Although Shanahan declined to reveal specifics of what he said, he made things clear to the group.

"If you emphasize something, it's important to them," Shanahan said. "What you do, if you're making a few mistakes, you stop practice and you emphasize points you're trying to get across.

"I did that a couple of times today. This is usually the week where everybody's a little bit sore. Everybody's kind of looking forward to camp [being] over with."

Players struggled at times, in part, because the Redskins worked on mixing up snap counts. Not surprisingly, there were several false starts.

"Just typical this time of year," Shanahan said. "We kind of vary some of the snap counts. There's a day that you kind of emphasize that and kind of typical of what you go through through camp."

Whatever Shanahan said, it seemed to have the desired effect. Practice ran more smoothly after the private group session on the field.

"Sometimes, you know, you get lackadaisical and you need that little charge," said wide receiver Santana Moss. "He just gave us the charge that we [weren't] doing what [were] supposed to do.

"We had a couple of miscues, and he just wanted to let us know that, 'Hey, I understand what we're going through, it's camp, but we've got to make it a little better.' We just recharged [ourselves] and went out there and tried to finish it up strong."

Players appreciated that Shanahan canceled the afternoon practice Monday, scheduled a group bowling outing and permitted them to spend the night at home instead of at the team hotel.

"Around this time, you need to see a different atmosphere," Moss said. "Those hotel rooms, and seeing these guys every day, all day, can get you kind of frustrated, man. Not really frustrating, but it's just going through the groundhog days of camp.

"When we get a chance to get away from it, most of us got kids and families. It's always good to be able to spend a little more time with them."

Middle linebacker London Fletcher and defensive lineman Vonnie Holliday were given the day off Tuesday.

"London Fletcher, you know, he's been in the league for, I think, 26 years right now. [Holliday] 28," Shanahan joked. "On the serious side, any time you have a veteran who practices extremely hard consistently, you'd like to give 'em a day off every once in a while."

Shanahan said he was not surprised that Pro Bowl running back Brian Westbrook, whom the Redskins pursued, signed elsewhere. The San Francisco 49ers reportedly guaranteed Westbrook $1.25 million.

"You just never know nowadays, relative to the agents and the money involved," he said. "Brian's a good football player and I think he'll help San Francisco."

By Jason Reid  |  August 17, 2010; 12:44 PM ET
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Comments

Anybody writes first I'm hunting them down.

Posted by: PEACE8 | August 17, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Anybody write first I'm hunting them down and kneecapping them.

Posted by: PEACE8 | August 17, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse


One preseason blowout victory over a bunch of nobodies and fat cat syndrome is already sinking in. It's going to be a long season.

Posted by: ahwyatt | August 17, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

These are the dog days of the preseason when a team needs to take a page out of the Riggo playbook and retreat to the tool shed behind the practice field...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 17, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

I really get a sense that Shanahan understands what the team needs and how to get things done. This team will be ready come opening day. Very ready.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 17, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

PEACE8
Since you wrote it in your own message, I expect your suicide to be on the news.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 17, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

These are the dog days of the preseason when a team needs to take a page out of the Riggo playbook and retreat to the tool shed behind the practice field...
Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 17, 2010 1:05 PM

Sounds like the whole team was hung over today…..that’s what happens when you let them go home for one night. I’ll bet Haynesworth has the Budweiser flu and couldn’t finish practice.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | August 17, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

I wonder whether Portis' disparaging remarks about the O-line last year will come back to bite him in this fair competition format. Granted some of the o-lineman are new, but the guys who were on the line last year might block a little harder for a RB who hasn't thrown them under the bus.

Posted by: TBDog | August 17, 2010 12:02 PM


Are you serious? Are they taking a vote in the locker room? It's Shanahan's decision and his alone...and keep in mind, those O-lineman are fighting for jobs too. They can't get cute and block for who they like. It's do or die out there...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 17, 2010 12:06 PM
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I think that actually happens sometimes. I remember when Eric Dickerson was winding down his career in Indianapolis and he was critical of his offensive line. Those guys were waving defenders in on him. STG!

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 17, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

One preseason blowout victory over a bunch of nobodies and fat cat syndrome is already sinking in. It's going to be a long season.

Posted by: ahwyatt | August 17, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

LOL

Posted by: Pepper5 | August 17, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

"I wonder whether Portis' disparaging remarks about the O-line last year will come back to bite him in this fair competition format. Granted some of the o-lineman are new, but the guys who were on the line last year might block a little harder for a RB who hasn't thrown them under the bus.

Posted by: TBDog | August 17, 2010 12:02 PM"

Portis' remarks were in the beginning of 2008. The starters then were Chris Samuels, Pete Kendall, Casey Rabach, Randy Thomas, and Jon Jansen.

In other words, there is one guy currently on the front line that could have 'resentment' towards Portis. And I highly doubt you'll see him pull any stunts.

Posted by: psps23 | August 17, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

There is a good chance that he may want to jump to the Vikings next year. Favre is almost certainly done after this year. They have better weapons and are closer to competing for a SB. If he does resign it will be for about 3 years and 10mil per year. That is a big chunk of change for a guy who is battling father time and has not been able to stay healthy. It also means he will be eating up a big piece of the cap space. This will limit free agents they will be able to sign. With limited picks they will also not be able to replenish with the draft.

Posted by: srobert1117 | August 17, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Excellent elucidation of the downside scenario! I've been very uneasy about the McNabb deal since day one.

Posted by: Pepper5 | August 17, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

"bowling?" eh?

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | August 17, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Not to beat the dead horse but Fat Al just doesn' get it when it comes to being a teammate.

When I played football you practiced when you were sick and even when you were hurt. Colds, flu's it didn't matter to our coaches. They wanted to know who would play through it. You could weasel your way out, but players knew who could fight through it, and who those couldn't or simply wouldn't.

Fast forward a few years and my time in the Marines definietly showed me who you could count on and who you couldn't. This guys only a week into camp and already has to sit out a day b/c he's not feeling well? Really Big Al you're not feeling well? How are the other 79 guys feeling who've been there since day one?

It's possible he has a high fever, but I highly doubt that. His attitude is such a slap to the team, owner, and fans. Let's remember who really pays his salary. Danny might sign the checks, but as fans we're the paying consumers who fund that enterprise.

And to shut up any of his defenders out there. If you've never climed the 'Reaper' in the foothills of Camp Pendleton suffering from a stomach virus, dehydration, infected bursa sac, and a fever, then you just wouldn't get it. So don't even bother.

HTTR

Posted by: Devo2 | August 17, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

If the camera adds 10lbs to Jason Reid....how many cameras were on him for that clip?

P90X should sponsor him.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 17, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Its 1:38 and I could use a martini.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 17, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

"There is a good chance that he may want to jump to the Vikings next year. Favre is almost certainly done after this year. They have better weapons and are closer to competing for a SB.

Posted by: srobert1117 | August 17, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse"

Simple solution: beat the Vikings this year.

Posted by: psps23 | August 17, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

I thought that was Shugg Night in this thread's video clip.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 17, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse


Excellent elucidation of the downside scenario! I've been very uneasy about the McNabb deal since day one.

Posted by: Pepper5 | August 17, 2010 1:30 PM

I also don't like the deal. Is BA good at evaluating the draft, or is the future now ? I'll take draft picks and build through the draft. Replenish the McNabb picks and trade AH. Get this moron out of here.

Posted by: hessone | August 17, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Agree that the longer the McNabb re-signing dawdles out there, the more likely it turns from a mere dingleberry into a full fledged skid mark.

Regards -

-hgr

Posted by: HughGRection | August 17, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

J Reid is one round, ugly, stoned lookin' mutha phuka.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 17, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

If we win more than 9 games, and go to the playoffs, McNabb will be back.

BTW we will win 11.

I'm also giving a middle finger to all the McNabb haters.

That is all, have a great day.

Posted by: iH8dallas | August 17, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

"I wonder whether Portis' disparaging remarks about the O-line last year will come back to bite him in this fair competition format. Granted some of the o-lineman are new, but the guys who were on the line last year might block a little harder for a RB who hasn't thrown them under the bus.

Posted by: TBDog | August 17, 2010 12:02 PM"

Portis' remarks were in the beginning of 2008. The starters then were Chris Samuels, Pete Kendall, Casey Rabach, Randy Thomas, and Jon Jansen.

In other words, there is one guy currently on the front line that could have 'resentment' towards Portis. And I highly doubt you'll see him pull any stunts.

Posted by: psps23 | August 17, 2010 1:29 PM
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Let's not let the facts get in the way of a damned good conspiracy theory...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 17, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

What? No funny Cowboy post yet? I'll fix that.

Deadskins are horrible. Cowboys are great. Cowboys are the best in the NFC East, NFC, and the entire NFL. Nobody stands a chance. Every other team is garbage. Cowboys are soo good! Yee-Haww! Go Cowboys!

Posted by: REDneckSKINhead | August 17, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse


I'm also giving a middle finger to all the McNabb haters.

Posted by: iH8dallas | August 17, 2010 2:00 PM

Think about it ih8, folks disagree with Obama and they're considered racist. Just because someone doesn't like the McNabb deal doesn't mean they hate the guy. Alot of folks on this board wanted to ditch the big FA signings. I'm on board with that. But this is like a FA signing, and we have to give up picks. What happened to building through the draft ? HTTR

Posted by: hessone | August 17, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

I don't think resigning ANYONE is a priority... you don't even know if the contract will be valid after this season.

I don't think anyone in the league is seriously considering long term now.

It makes sense for Skins to be persuing things the way they are now... It might not be what we want or like, but there's solid reasoning behind it.

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 17, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Please put me and Redskins fans out of our misery and just make Haynesworth go away. PLEASE.

Posted by: skinsforever1 | August 17, 2010 1:11 PM

Dude speak for yourself, you are in the minority with your opinion. If you think the blow out of Buffalo indicate a solid defense that wouldn't need Haynesworth, think again. Shanahan knows quite well he needs Haynesworth.

Posted by: abxinc | August 17, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Not to beat the dead horse but Fat Al just doesn' get it when it comes to being a teammate.

When I played football you practiced when you were sick and even when you were hurt. Colds, flu's it didn't matter to our coaches. They wanted to know who would play through it. You could weasel your way out, but players knew who could fight through it, and who those couldn't or simply wouldn't.

Fast forward a few years and my time in the Marines definietly showed me who you could count on and who you couldn't. This guys only a week into camp and already has to sit out a day b/c he's not feeling well? Really Big Al you're not feeling well? How are the other 79 guys feeling who've been there since day one?

It's possible he has a high fever, but I highly doubt that. His attitude is such a slap to the team, owner, and fans. Let's remember who really pays his salary. Danny might sign the checks, but as fans we're the paying consumers who fund that enterprise.

And to shut up any of his defenders out there. If you've never climed the 'Reaper' in the foothills of Camp Pendleton suffering from a stomach virus, dehydration, infected bursa sac, and a fever, then you just wouldn't get it. So don't even bother.

HTTR

Posted by: Devo2 | August 17, 2010 1:34 PM
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I hear you but the story we hear is probably not the whole story. Shanahan is not opposed to using "technically accurate" comments to skew the facts. I am not saying Haynesworth isn't lazy - I'm just saying there is more to this than what we are hearing and it is remotely possible this was initiated by the team. If Haynesworth was sick and trying to stay out of practice he would be better off saying that to the media instead of "go ask the coach".

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 17, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

RedSkinHead -

They had injuries prior to the CP's infammatory statement. Heyer was starting at that point.

Regards -

-hgr

Posted by: HughGRection | August 17, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

sroberts is correct. There is downside risk to the McNabb situation.

Still, Shanahan made the call to 'win now' and the upgrade at QB is essential to that.

He's done a lot to put a stronger team on the field. There are moves I question (McNabb, 3-4, old RBs), but he's done a lot right (TW, J Brown, Hicks, Carriker, cutting of aging vets).

This team has a good chance to be in the playoff hunt.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 17, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

On the serious tip, jam a cigar in JReid's pie-hole and give him a black leather trench coat and he's straight up Shugg Night!

Too bad the only 'gangsta in here that needs a good pimp slappin' is 4th floor.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 17, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Did I mention the man can Coach?

Hayney. What a hiney. Prolly got his drank on too much, purple or otherwise. It is what it is... its Shanny's job to a) get him back in the fold (check) b) without looking like a punk to the rest of the team (check) c) get the most out of him during the season to help the Redskin's win games (remains to be seen, but I like Shanny's chances).

McNabb to Vikes at some point makes sense intellectually, but Shanny, Lil Shanny, and BA aren't dumb enough to go into camp next year w/ Grossman as the incumbent starter.

I see McNabb inking a 2-3 year extension at some point, and the Redskins looking to find a viable heir apparent from a position of tactical and strategic strength. Kind of the antithesis of the vinny method.

That Cruz kid from the ginas can play. Wonder how he will do against the ones.

Anotehr version of our WR group for day one: Moss, Galloway, MK, DT, Armstrong, Banks. 2 cagey vets, 2 third year guys who SHOULD breakout, and 2 rookies one of whom can change the game at every touch. Key word SHOULD, which does not = WILL.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | August 17, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

So nice Shanny took the team bowling.

My guess is Troy Barkman was used as the bowling ball (of course with proper star helmet).

PETA notice - No real animals were used in the creation of this post nor were any harmed. Merely reporting what had already happened.

Posted by: laserwizard | August 17, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse


I don't think resigning ANYONE is a priority... you don't even know if the contract will be valid after this season.

I don't think anyone in the league is seriously considering long term now.

It makes sense for Skins to be persuing things the way they are now... It might not be what we want or like, but there's solid reasoning behind it.

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 17, 2010 2:07 PM

Interesting point. I still hope the Redskins build through the draft and make FA signings later, when we have a few holes to fill. Ahhhh, but that takes patience. Looks like it's win now, which would be great, but the history of that strategy isn't so good.

Posted by: hessone | August 17, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

What? No funny Cowboy post yet? I'll fix that.

Deadskins are horrible. Cowboys are great. Cowboys are the best in the NFC East, NFC, and the entire NFL. Nobody stands a chance. Every other team is garbage. Cowboys are soo good! Yee-Haww! Go Cowboys!

Posted by: REDneckSKINhead | August 17, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Heck, Dallas isn't even the best city in the state.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | August 17, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

I don't think our O line needs to dog it to let guys throughy, it'll happen organically

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 17, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Our first team D sucked vs the run w/o Haynesworth, I hope the stupid pretend your a tough guy coach for the media and fans is done

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 17, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Our first team D sucked vs the run w/o Haynesworth, I hope the stupid pretend your a tough guy coach for the media and fans is done

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 17, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

"Our first team D sucked vs the run w/o Haynesworth"

Had absolutely nothing to do with Haynesworth not being there, it had to do with Carter sucking at OLB.

He consitently ran himself up the field and out of the play and the Bills kept running underneath him. Can't do that in a 3-4.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | August 17, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

I hope Albert can get into an Eastern Motors spot this year.

I'd like to see Danny in one too but A.) They don't sell helicopters and B.)They can't afford his butt buddy, Tom Cruise.

Here's my effort for the jingle:

"At Eastern Motors.....yo job's yo credit.
If Albert stiffs us.....we'll re-po-zes it!

Four average wide receivers....and one old man.

We need our offense to score for a change this year,
are you listenin' Shannahan?

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 17, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Better of two evils:

Keep a guy (not-quite-as-Fat Al) who a lot of fans dislike who was a game changer and will likely remain with the huge money sunk anyway AND is changing position

or

Get rid of a guy for transgressions against the team - cashing a fat check, not showing up for a while, not passing a test, already getting hurt prior to practicing for something in return. The something in return is the tricky part - we won't get a game changing player in return.

imho - the money is gone, its not mine anyway, and its not a capped year. The organization is taking a WIN NOW approach; therefore it makes sense for the org to hold onto Haynesworth.

Dexter Manley pulled a lot of crap back in his day - he held out, got injured before the preseason for almost the entire pre-season, SPOKE TO THE MEDIA AND GAVE HIS HONEST OPINIONS which were often inflammatory and in the middle of his PHAT CONTRACT gets busted for drugs....three times. I believe Dexter belongs in the HOF regardless and am as fond of him as any other Skins player regardless - even when he openly and repeatedly talked about crossing the picket lines in 1987. He in his best year was not the game changer Fat Al was in his best year (two seasons ago). I say keep him, but use him effectively. Though I have my doubts about this year, I have no doubt these coaches will use Al either to his max potential, or have the benefit of a scapegoat when things go wrong. Its binary, and if I'm the new regime, unless some future changing trade comes along (multi-draft picks) he's staying. He is too valuable to lose as a scapegoat in the worst case scenario AND the team is far more likely to achieve success under the best case.

Just my opinion.

Regards -

-hgr

Posted by: HughGRection | August 17, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Hess,

I think it went ok for Gibbs that way. There was a point made earlier that if any coach/FO combo would be able to pull off the dual growth angle (build for future & now) Shenanigallens' would be it.

I'm not 100% on board w/ that. The line will have to show up every week. Receivers I'm not so worried about - we have Cooley AND Davis... so

..hey... that sounds like a Stax's Records combo! Cooley AND Davis

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 17, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Devo2, when you played we're you a professional, dominating, multiple pro-bowl defensive lineman?

I'm guessing your experience has no relevance when discussing 92

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 17, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse


Our first team D sucked vs the run w/o Haynesworth, I hope the stupid pretend your a tough guy coach for the media and fans is done

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 17, 2010 2:21 PM

Now that you've defined our coach, you could at least define Haynesworth. Let the coach handle team matters. Haynesworth should grow up and be a TEAM player. It's not going to happen, so trade him and get on with the rebuild. HTTR

Posted by: hessone | August 17, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Heck, Dallas isn't even the best city in the state.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | August 17, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

well we know who you vote for no 1. But I would throw Austen, San Antonio, El Paso also above. Probably a bunch more.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 17, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Not to beat the dead horse but Fat Al just doesn' get it when it comes to being a teammate.

When I played football you practiced when you were sick and even when you were hurt. Colds, flu's it didn't matter to our coaches.

Posted by: Devo2 | August 17, 2010 1:34 PM

Are you sure Haynesworth wasn't sick before practice but practiced anyway. Are you sure Ah didn't want to continue practice but for precautionary reasons was told to take the rest of practice off? You could be right about Haynesworth, but I have read nothing to say that he wasn't legit sick. Two othe Redskins have gotten time off because of dehydration are they not good teammates as well?

Posted by: TWISI | August 17, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

1. I'm sticking by my brazen that Haynesworth will play at least 40 snaps in Week One. After a heavily ridiculed and continuing support for the Large One (btw, it is only partially accurate that his sickness was not heat related ... hershey squirts are hot, if not heat-related), I stand by my prediction.

2. Did I miss the round of Ladell "The Guy Who's Now Going to Block for, then Fumble a Screen from, Drew Brees" Betts?

Posted by: dcsween | August 17, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

This team was old and got older, right? Doesn't mean we won't be better, better than 4-12, maybe, but mcnabb, Johnson, Parker, Galloway, holliday, old, old, old.

Brown, kemoeatu, Williams, r , Carriker all dnp last year

let's not kid ourselves this is a f'in longshot. If we're 100% better IF we're 8-8

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 17, 2010 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Heck, Dallas isn't even the best city in the state.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | August 17, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

well we know who you vote for no 1. But I would throw Austen, San Antonio, El Paso also above. Probably a bunch more.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 17, 2010 2:30 PM |

Don't forget Crawford!

Signed,
George W. Bush

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 17, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

RedSkinHead -

They had injuries prior to the CP's infammatory statement. Heyer was starting at that point.

Regards -

-hgr

Posted by: HughGRection | August 17, 2010 2:08 PM
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So, you are saying both Rabach and Heyer could hold a grudge against Portis? Nah. Not buying it. When I made the comment about Dickerson in Indy, that all happened in the course of a couple of games. As I recall, he publicly apologized to them the next week and then had a much better showing the week that followed...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 17, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

And Waco!

Signed,
David Koresh

Posted by: SMACK1 | August 17, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

This team was old and got older, right? Doesn't mean we won't be better, better than 4-12, maybe, but mcnabb, Johnson, Parker, Galloway, holliday, old, old, old.

Brown, kemoeatu, Williams, r , Carriker all dnp last year

let's not kid ourselves this is a f'in longshot. If we're 100% better IF we're 8-8

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 17, 2010 2:36 PM
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A player can be old and still productive. A team can be old and still go to the Superbowl. I seem to recall a few Patriots Superbowl teams that were sporting several aging veterans - especially on defense. You seem to be drawing a correlation between age and effectiveness of a team. Care to back that up with some data?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 17, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

congrats to LaDell. Landing in New Orleans is pretty cool upgrade. Right up until he gets cut. The Saints have a 3rd down back -- Reggie Bush.

Seriously, the guy had better chances to stick in places like Denver where the RBs are dropping like flies.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 17, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

WHAT is with watching the video, and being shown the non-photogenic control room guys during the what should be game replays? Is that what it looks like while watching CSN, or is it only how it looks when the sports show is moved to a linked video?

Or am I the only one who sees this? (Or, am I the only one stupid enough to watch the Reid videos?

Posted by: GoTeamGoTeamGooooooTeamYay | August 17, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

This blog is getting too sad for me.

I respect the opinions of everyone here, optimistic or not.

However it's depressing reading some of this, so I choose to blindly charge forward with my optimism.

11-5 is my prediction, and I'm sticking with it.

Posted by: iH8dallas | August 17, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

"When I played football, you practiced when you were sick and even when you were hurt. Colds, flu's it didn't matter to our coaches."


That's why I'm so glad the coaching is better now.

I remember how they'd withhold water while you're out practicing in 90 degree weather.

A kids died from heat exhaustion, and after the funeral, the coach still wouldn't give us water.

Why?

"The dead kid wasn't tough enough," he said.

"Even now, he refuses to play through his pain."

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 17, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Or am I the only one who sees this? (Or, am I the only one stupid enough to watch the Reid videos?

Posted by: GoTeamGoTeamGooooooTeamYay | August 17, 2010 2:49 PM
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If you have to ask...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 17, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

One preseason blowout victory over a bunch of nobodies and fat cat syndrome is already sinking in. It's going to be a long season.

Posted by: ahwyatt | August 17, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

ahwyatt don't be an idiot they were having a bad practice Shanny stopped them got their heads on straight and they finished strong. Nothing to do with fat cat syndrome

Posted by: wstclair | August 17, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

WHAT is with watching the video, and being shown the non-photogenic control room guys during the what should be game replays? Is that what it looks like while watching CSN, or is it only how it looks when the sports show is moved to a linked video?

Or am I the only one who sees this? (Or, am I the only one stupid enough to watch the Reid videos?

Posted by: GoTeamGoTeamGooooooTeamYay

No f-in kidding!@!!! I mean, WaPo has been around for decades -- you'd think they could hire an intern to put the video clips in the right places. Dang!!!!

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 17, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

BREAKING NEWS BRETT FARVE IS BACK

Posted by: robertg238 | August 17, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

BREAKING NEWS BRETT FARVE IS BACK

Posted by: robertg238 | August 17, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

BREAKING NEWS BRETT FARVE IS BACK

Posted by: robertg238 | August 17, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

BREAKING NEWS BRETT FARVE IS BACK

Posted by: robertg238 | August 17, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

BREAKING NEWS BRETT FARVE IS BACK

Posted by: robertg238 | August 17, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

This blog is getting too sad for me.

I respect the opinions of everyone here, optimistic or not.

However it's depressing reading some of this, so I choose to blindly charge forward with my optimism.

11-5 is my prediction, and I'm sticking with it.

Posted by: iH8dallas | August 17, 2010 2:49 PM
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Keep charging, iH8. To hell with the naysayers. 11-5. Book it.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 17, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, it was the Bills, but Zorn never looked as together or in control of the team as Shanahan did in his FIRST PRE-SEASON game..Haynesworth is still a little out of shape, plus tendinitis, no big deal..Haynesworth and Kemo need to be brought up to speed SLOWLY, its the week before the second game of preseason..Maybe he ate the on sale chicken I had the other night..The Salmonella Kill-A-Fella Special..The cure??? The usual: Budwieser Cheladas poured down the gullet, 24-7./.

Posted by: frak | August 17, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Anyone remember these practices? You blew out a team on Friday, Monday your team gets nice write ups and Tuesday, everyone heads' are gassed up? Then in practice, a couple of bad plays, someone blows a coverage, or drops a ball, then coach goes into Full Metal Jacket, WTF mode. Making the whole team run hills or gassers. Telling the All-Met players on the team that they ain't sh*t. It's old school and its good for 'em. :-)

Hail!

Posted by: clark202 | August 17, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

RedSkinHead -

I agree the chances of anyone on the team thinking about CP's statements from two years ago....there's been enough drama since then!

btw - actually am looking for a decent season for CP this year. Unless LJ beats him out for the majority of snaps, he has a year or two left in his wheels. I think that Cartwright and Betts won't be missed with the guys we have in camp. Not really worried about the running this season, more about the passing. Assuming of course, our starting OL stays healthy.

Regards -

-hgr

Posted by: HughGRection | August 17, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse


11-5 is my prediction, and I'm sticking with it.

Posted by: iH8dallas | August 17, 2010 2:49 PM

Not to be confused with your other predictions !

Hope your right, but...........

Posted by: hessone | August 17, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

BREAKING NEWS BRETT FARVE IS BACK

Posted by: robertg238

THIS JUST IN, FAVRE'S A DOOSH, more to come!

Posted by: Predator48 | August 17, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: iH8dallas | August 17, 2010 2:49 PM

I applaud your optomism, but I think many of us have felt burned by excessive optomism in the past, only to be let down during the season. This year I am in cautious optomism mode, and I predict 9-7 with an outside chance of making the playoffs.

I'm definately not down on the WR's like some people are. I see a decent amount of potential there. I'm also not as high on the O-line as some people are. It's a good start to a rebuild, but I still worry if there are injuries.

I need to see more of the Defense to know if we have the players to successfully impliment the 3-4. I agree with the change, and if you are going to make that change it's better to do it sooner rather than later. I'm not convinced it will be completely effective this season. At least we'll know better the needs for next year.

Posted by: kaasmaster | August 17, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

This is what happens when you take the whole team bowling in an "air-conditioned" building! Shanahan should have made them go Golfing in the heat at 12 pm in the afternoon. That would have taught them "concentration" and "survival" techniques as the players try to find golf balls in the woods amongst poison ivy and poison snakes. Let's not even mention trying to hit a "tiny" golf ball with a stick using all those muscles!

Posted by: JohnWWW | August 17, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

This is what happens when you take the whole team bowling in an "air-conditioned" building! Shanahan should have made them go Golfing in the heat at 12 pm in the afternoon. That would have taught them "concentration" and "survival" techniques as the players try to find golf balls in the woods amongst poison ivy and poison snakes. Let's not even mention trying to hit a "tiny" golf ball with a stick using all those muscles!

Posted by: JohnWWW | August 17, 2010 3:07 PM |

God knows Haney is used to the carts.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 17, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

RIP Bobby Thomson -- a legend for one swing of the bat

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 17, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: robertg238 | August 17, 2010 2:54 PM

BREAKING NEWS: WHO CARES!

Posted by: kaasmaster | August 17, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

This blog is getting too sad for me.

I respect the opinions of everyone here, optimistic or not.

However it's depressing reading some of this, so I choose to blindly charge forward with my optimism.

11-5 is my prediction, and I'm sticking with it.

Posted by: iH8dallas | August 17, 2010 2:49 PM

Who cares about W-L this year as long as they beat Dallas. Am I the only one who looks back fondly at Marty's one and only season here? By the end of that season Redskins were tough as nails and could go toe to toe with anybody. I'd be delighted to have that kind of year, which was 8-8.

Posted by: Pepper5 | August 17, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

"But this is like a FA signing, and we have to give up picks. What happened to building through the draft ?"

The McNabb acquisition was nothing like a free agent signing. To sign a high-profile player like McNabb as a free agent, you almost always have to grossly overpay him, which tends to adversely affect both your salary cap situation (and I'm assuming that there will be a cap or some other salary-restraint measure in the next CBA) and the player's motivation to produce. We merely had to take on his existing contract, which is, by all accounts, reasonable for a QB of his stature. Moreover, since he's in the last year of his contract and playing for a new deal, motivation won't be an issue (not that it would have been, anyway). And, as you point out, we had to give up draft picks.

As for building through the draft, no team uses that as their sole means of player procurement. So-called model franchises like New England have traded draft choices -- horrors -- for players like Wes Welker and Randy Moss. What changed with the departure of Cerrato was the Redskins' undervaluing of draft choices, as demonstrated by the team giving up two (I think) mid-round picks for TJ Duckett, an RB who barely saw the field for the 'Skins, and a second and a sixth for Jason Taylor, whom Cerrato acquired to play out of position at LDE.

Posted by: rufus_t_firefly | August 17, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget Crawford!

Signed,
George W. Bush

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 17, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

I've been to Crawford. Since when does 12 trailers surrounding a trading post count as anything?

Posted by: alex35332 | August 17, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

"well we know who you vote for no 1. But I would throw Austen, San Antonio, El Paso also above."

Would that be Jane Austen?

Posted by: Samson151 | August 17, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

"This blog is getting too sad for me."

True.

It's getting so sad and depressing that it's become required reading for all potential suicides.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 17, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

In all fairness, every team in the league is about 1 injury away from disaster.

Peyton Manning
Tom Brady
Chris Johnson
Brett Favre
Drew Brees
Phillip Rivers
Eli Manning
etc.
etc.
etc.

If any of these guys go down, the season is supposedly done.

We can't sit around brooding over what if injuries, that haven't even happened yet.

None of our main guys are hurt, and it looks like Shanny intends to keep it that way.

Asante Samuel got hurt, Marc Columbo got hurt. Hey, none of our guys have been carted off the field. I must credit the training/conditioning staff for this.

The Redskins are in good shape. Live in the moment, we just beat a team 42-17. I know it's preseason but enjoy it.

Posted by: iH8dallas | August 17, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

I've been to Crawford. Since when does 12 trailers surrounding a trading post count as anything?

Posted by: alex35332 | August 17, 2010 3:24 PM

Since they posted the sign that said "Alex Zeese Has Been Here."

Posted by: beep-beep | August 17, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget Crawford!

Signed,
George W. Bush

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 17, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

I've been to Crawford. Since when does 12 trailers surrounding a trading post count as anything?

Posted by: alex35332 | August 17, 2010 3:24 PM |

It's Vegas next to Dallas....that's the point Einstein.

Is it me or do 99.999% of cut-and-pasters not even bother to grasp context?

Oh yeah....

YES

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 17, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

@ pabrian2003

Devo2, when you played we're you a professional, dominating, multiple pro-bowl defensive lineman?

I'm guessing your experience has no relevance when discussing 92

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 17, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

No but I'd say my experience as a Marine Scout Sniper qualifies me as a professional who's been a part of a specialized enviornment that requires dedication, teamwork, and interdependence.


Shut your piehole you D-bag b/c you totally missed the point.

Posted by: Devo2 | August 17, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

@ pabrian2003

Devo2, when you played we're you a professional, dominating, multiple pro-bowl defensive lineman?

I'm guessing your experience has no relevance when discussing 92

Posted by: pabrian2003 | August 17, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

No but I'd say my experience as a Marine Scout Sniper qualifies me as a professional who's been a part of a specialized enviornment that requires dedication, teamwork, and interdependence.


Shut your piehole you D-bag b/c you totally missed the point.

Posted by: Devo2 | August 17, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

not a good day until the TJ Duckett trade gets brought up.........next we'll dissect the 2001 draft, and why Hutchinson would have possibly worked out better than Gardner....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 17, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Who cares about W-L this year as long as they beat Dallas. Am I the only one who looks back fondly at Marty's one and only season here? By the end of that season Redskins were tough as nails and could go toe to toe with anybody. I'd be delighted to have that kind of year, which was 8-8.

Posted by: Pepper5 | August 17, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

I'm still stunned about Marty getting fired. The last half of that season was really fun.

Posted by: iH8dallas | August 17, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

As far as I'm concerned, ALL of TX is Crawford to me.

It's like me growing up on the mean streets of Potomac, MD and someone lauding McLean vs. Manassas.

Dude, it's ALL Manassas to me from where I'm sitting.

If I want to get a firsthand look at a tumbleweed, dudes in cowboy hats or women with black eyes, I'll go to Texas.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 17, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

"BREAKING NEWS BRETT FARVE IS BACK"

BREAKING NEWS: IT'S SPELLED 'FAVRE'!!!

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 17, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Who cares about W-L this year as long as they beat Dallas. Am I the only one who looks back fondly at Marty's one and only season here? By the end of that season Redskins were tough as nails and could go toe to toe with anybody. I'd be delighted to have that kind of year, which was 8-8.

Posted by: Pepper5

Marty was a terrific coach. I agree with others, letting him go was a huge mistake. Marty's track record is excellent, even if he didn't get to the big game.

Many of us knew Danny had made a huge mistake the day he was sent packing.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 17, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Since they posted the sign that said "Alex Zeese Has Been Here."

Posted by: beep-beep | August 17, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

It is a nice sign. Not as nice as the one they put up for me after my visit to Africa, but its the thought that counts.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 17, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

No_Punt_Intended,
You got to learn to lighten up, the blog is for silly jibber jabber, or jib jab as the kids are calling it these days. I miss the day when people used to come up here and post general sillieness.

I blame Vinny and the Tea Party for that. But that's besides my point, let me get back to my story...

Now where was I... oh yeah. The important thing was that I had an onion tied to my belt, which was the style at the time. You couldn't get white onions, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones.

Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. Gimme five bees for a quarter, you'd say.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 17, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Since they posted the sign that said "Alex Zeese Has Been Here."

Posted by: beep-beep | August 17, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

It is a nice sign. Not as nice as the one they put up for me after my visit to Africa, but its the thought that counts.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 17, 2010 3:41 PM

Yeah, people in Crawford really got interested in you but a lot of folks are puzzled by the sign: "Alex Zeese has been here and to Africa, too."

Posted by: beep-beep | August 17, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

"BREAKING NEWS BRETT FARVE IS BACK"

BREAKING NEWS: IT'S SPELLED 'FAVRE'!!!

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 17, 2010 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Moe,
You know he may be talking about Brett Farve, the exotic dancer out of Bad Boys down on first street. He/She came out of retirement and you know how robertg238 was a big fan.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 17, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Beeps.

D Mo.

Posted by: edvar | August 17, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

beep-beep
Now that got me laughing.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 17, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

As for building through the draft, no team uses that as their sole means of player procurement. So-called model franchises like New England have traded draft choices -- horrors -- for players like Wes Welker and Randy Moss.

Posted by: rufus_t_firefly |

New England won their 3 championships on the backs of players they drafted. They have not won a championship with Moss and Welker. Every team makes free agent acquisitions. The good ones add a player to their already good core which is typically built through the draft. In their most recent super bowl 17 of 22 starters started their career with the Pats. The team that beat the Panthers had 16 of 22. This does not include long time members of the team like Phifer, Vrabel and Andruzzi. They were there for all of them and were quality low priced free agent adds.

Posted by: srobert1117 | August 17, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

"It's getting so sad and depressing that it's become required reading for all potential suicides.


Posted by: MistaMoe "

I'm starting a psychedelic punk band called "The Suicidal Beer Gnats!!", and you're invited , Moe...We're gonna have downtown drywall bucket Go-Go drummers, chainsaw horror symphonies, The Insane Trees and The Mad Crickets, Godzilla And The Tokyo Bay Destroyers, Ant-Man-Bee, Brooklyn Kaiju 24-7, and of course, BUDWEISERRRRR!!!

Posted by: frak | August 17, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

beep-beep
Now that got me laughing.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 17, 2010 3:56 PM

Somebody's got to try to be funny (between mistamoe posts) now that Vic1 has stopped posting his TRAINING CAMP DIARY. Damn, that was some choice stuff.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 17, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

What I get out of the post is yet another example of the art of coaching. When the Skins start making great half time adjustments again, which hasn't happened around here since Richie Pettibone and Joe Gibbs were making them, don't be surprised. How many close games have the Skins lost during the 2nd half over the past decade? Maybe the Skins start winning some of the close ones they've been losing in the 2nd half. My original prediction was 6-10, with the Skins only winning twice against the NFC East, because they have such a tough schedule Maybe the Skins split against the NFC East and go 8-8. Stopping practice to get the team back on message was masterful coaching. If this team sneaks into the playoffs this year, opponents will face a well-coached team. Look out Dallas!

Posted by: dannykurland1 | August 17, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Can anyone confirm the reports that AH tore his achilles tendon today while lowering the kiddie bumpers at the bowling alley and will miss the season?

Posted by: randysbailin | August 17, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

One preseason blowout victory over a bunch of nobodies and fat cat syndrome is already sinking in. It's going to be a long season.

Posted by: ahwyatt | August 17, 2010 12:53 PM

Thanks a lot, Mr. Positive

Posted by: RedskinsNow | August 17, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

@dannykurland1, Amen Bro. I miss those adjustments also! Pettibone sure knew how to do it! BTW, GO BIG AL! F-ck the haters and F-UCK Dallas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | August 17, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

"Anybody writes first I'm hunting them down."

Hey PEACE8, that was awesome.


That is all.

Posted by: fargincorksucker | August 17, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

"Players appreciated that Shanahan canceled the afternoon practice Monday, scheduled a group bowling outing and permitted them to spend the night at home instead of at the team hotel."


Someone buy Davis an Atomic Alarm Clock ;)

Posted by: Veretax | August 17, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins are overconfident already? Another wasted season. I give up!

Posted by: risher80 | August 17, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Man, that Santana sure does struggle with the language.

The Ground Hog days?

Posted by: Thinker_ | August 17, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

During Shanahan"s press conference today, he referred to Orakpo as Arapko. I guess he'll get it right eventually.

Posted by: kingpenn1 | August 17, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Fred Davis' dance in the end zone was embarrassing. Act like you've been there before, clown. You don't see Cooley acting like a chump.

Posted by: No1UNo | August 17, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

I hate this team. They might go 8 and 8. Might as well pick a back up team to root for. This doesn't make sense to me. Why have a mediocre team and delay the process of building a winner. Just trade anyone of value for draft picks and build thru the draft. We'll stink for a couple more years and then it should turn around. Is this rocket science??? 14 years of stupidity!

Posted by: magilla | August 17, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

If Shanny feels frustrated now I can't wait to see him by about week six!

Posted by: skins91r | August 17, 2010 10:41 PM | Report abuse

"Excellent elucidation of the downside scenario! I've been very uneasy about the McNabb deal since day one."

So you were just fine with Campbell Soup?

Posted by: usc932000 | August 18, 2010 6:11 AM | Report abuse

I'm sure I'm jinxing the team, but I've all of a sudden got a good feeling about the Skins this year. Probably no playoffs, but I think they'll have the professionalism and all that effort crap taken care of. Won't have any "losing creates thoughts" press conferences, crazy hook-and-lateral plays executed with a kicker, I think it's safe to say.

Posted by: Meepo | August 18, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

"Excellent elucidation of the downside scenario! I've been very uneasy about the McNabb deal since day one."

So you were just fine with Campbell Soup?

Posted by: usc932000 | August 18, 2010 6:11 AM
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I was just fine with Campbell Soup. His stats were just as good as McNabbs without his starting RB, a decent OL, or a DeSean Jackson type WR to throw to.

I just don't think JC was the problem. As evidenced by the fact that only 2 of the OL still have their jobs, and only 1 of the WRs from last year is still in a starters position on the depth chart.

Posted by: ProfessorWrightBSU | August 18, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

was just fine with Campbell Soup. His stats were just as good as McNabbs without his starting RB, a decent OL, or a DeSean Jackson type WR to throw to.

I just don't think JC was the problem. As evidenced by the fact that only 2 of the OL still have their jobs, and only 1 of the WRs from last year is still in a starters position on the depth chart.

Posted by: ProfessorWrightBSU |
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But JC could not throw deep. I think I saw one deep completion out of JC. Of course, I missed many games because they sucked so bad, so its possible he completed more.

Posted by: DrWho2 | August 18, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

was just fine with Campbell Soup. His stats were just as good as McNabbs without his starting RB, a decent OL, or a DeSean Jackson type WR to throw to.

I just don't think JC was the problem. As evidenced by the fact that only 2 of the OL still have their jobs, and only 1 of the WRs from last year is still in a starters position on the depth chart.

Posted by: ProfessorWrightBSU |
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But JC could not throw deep. I think I saw one deep completion out of JC. Of course, I missed many games because they sucked so bad, so its possible he completed more.

Posted by: DrWho2 | August 18, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

When McNaab was an Eagle, I hated him . As a Redskin fan it was expected. Unfortunately , I still hate him today. I predict that he will be one big disappointment. The only good player the Redskins ever got from a division rival was Calvin Hill. Many of you are too young to remember.

Posted by: theBozyn | August 19, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

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