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Fumbles, muffs, interceptions plague team at practice

The Redskins had problems with ball security during the morning session Monday at Redskins Park.

There were many fumbles, muffed catches and interceptions. Coach Mike Shanahan would prefer things to run more smoothly as Washington prepares to play host to the Baltimore Ravens on Saturday at FedEx Field.

During punt drills, rookie wide receiver/returner Terrence Austin muffed one chance and another ball bounced off his helmet. Austin, a seventh-round pick from UCLA, has impressed on offense and special teams throughout training camp. His problems were "not like him," Shanahan said.

"He usually does a great job of catching the football, but he had a rough day today. That's something you work on. That's why you practice."

The defense repeatedly stripped running backs of balls and recovered fumbles. Quarterback John Beck continued to struggle while trying to become comfortable in the Redskins' scheme. On one of Beck's interceptions, cornerback Byron Westbrook jumped a route well and caught a ball intended for wideout Devin Thomas.

"We had three or four strips by the defense, which was great for the defense and not good for the offense," Shanahan said. "It's something we've got to work on. Ball security."

The Redskins have worked hard throughout camp, which ends Thursday. Shanahan plans to cancel the afternoon session and take the team bowling.

"Kind of a reward for them having a good camp," said Shanahan, who also took the players bowling when he ran the Denver Broncos. "Kind of seeing the light at the end of the tunnel with the end of camp coming up pretty soon."

By Jason Reid  |  August 16, 2010; 12:30 PM ET
Categories:  training camp  
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Comments

Don't let MK bowl, or he's liable to pull the other hamstring...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 16, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

just some quick associations here: ACL, MCL, hamstring, tendon, weeks, out, for.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | August 16, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

When I think back on all the "nincompoopery" that went on in the Vinny era, MK is a shining example. I recall when we drafted him there were multiple red flags about his injury issues, with a focus on bad knees. But Vinny, being the solid VP that he was had done his due diligence. He spoke to either an assistant coach or a trainer at Oklahoma who "assured" him that MK was fine. I guess the question is, what would you expect him to say? Is he going to admit that MK is as fragile as a china doll and risk hurting his draft stock? It's time to cut ties with MK . . . hopefully the last complete waste of a draft pick for quite sometime. (Assuming of course that DT works out).

Posted by: HokiesSkins | August 16, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Not surprising the players are having toruble holding onto the football. That was something that could have been a problem Friday night. It's good to get this out of their system now. When they are facing the Ravens you know players will try to strip the ball.

I'm not sure Beck is going to make it. The clock is ticking and it sounds like he's just as shaky in practice as he was on the field Friday night. I heard Roydell had few good catches in practice today.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 16, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

I guarantee you it'll be like a morgue on the Insider on September 13 after Dallas whips that a$$. I can never understand why Redskins talk so much trash but never win. Bad idea. Makes it better for me around the office though when you numbskulls pay for my lunch for a week. Momma should have taught you better!

Posted by: dallasinthedmv | August 16, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse


First, everyone who lives in this area knows its Dallas fans that like to fluff up their gear and call into to the radio shows locally, only to disappear and go crawling back under their rocks when they lose - imitating the form of their sad-sack front-running team that can't man up when it counts.

Second, "numbskull", you are the loser trolling on a Redskins sight talking smack. I've never been to a Brokeback blog in my life because (1) I don't give a rat's ar$e what you people say or think and (2) I would be humiliated/ashamed if my wife or kids found "cookies" on my computer linked to a Cowgirls site.

Third, we "never" win? It's 5-5 in the last 10 meetings, moron. Not that I would expect someone of your intelligence level to understand concepts like "researching facts" or "counting numbers".

Finally, you can take this post and have it for lunch - it's on me. But save some leftovers, b/c it's the only handout you'll get from me, troll.

Have a nice life, and please move to Dallas as soon as you can.

Posted by: p1funk | August 16, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Ddmv,

We're you born stupid or did you have some sort of accident? You do know that talking smack after you suck for two games is kinda the reverse of what should happen, right?

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 16, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

**REPOST**

Flash back to 2008...Redskin 1 lands, carrying JC and VC. They're bound for a practice field somewhere in the southern US.

JC tosses some passes to a young wr prospect with great size and hands, but that has some question marks re: speed and ability to stay healthy. Conversation on the plane during the flight home:

VC: boy, that kid has some size, eh?
JC: uh, yeah.
VC: great hands too, eh?
JC: yep.
VC: thanks for coming, JC, appreciate your input.

Later in a VA racquetball facility:

VC: Dan'o, we got a look at MK today.
DS: how'd he look?
VC: big with great hands, JC loves him.
DS: make it happen.

The rest is history. Ugly, incompetent, dumba$$ history.

Thanks guys!!

Posted by: stevek20147 | August 16, 2010 12:48 PM

Posted by: stevek20147 | August 16, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Talk about your glass empty/full situations!

Posted by: chrislarry | August 16, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

"Once a 38 year old dude is outplaying you at a speed/skill position, you're done."


This makes Hugh Hefner a god as he's way over 38, and is out playing with babes I can't even get on the field with.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 16, 2010 11:51 AM

Money changes everything. That's why guys like Popeye Jones and Sam Cassell and for that matter, Jay Schroeder can pull tail. If those dudes were broke, they'd make 4th floor look palatable.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 16, 2010 12:48 PM |

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 16, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

MARKO MITCHELL had one pass thrown his way in MINNESOTA's first exhibition game. He caught it, shed two would be tacklers, and ran 71 yards for a TD. This per the ST.PAUL STAR-TRIBUNE comments section. Boy, I'm glad we don't have him to kick around anymore.

Posted by: glawrence007 | August 16, 2010 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Ddmv,

We're you born stupid or did you have some sort of accident? You do know that talking smack after you suck for two games is kinda the reverse of what should happen, right?

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 16, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

DS,

Don't bother. The Pies have sucked for a dozen years. They've won the same number of postseason games as the Skins during that time.

These stupid redneck Poke fans think their team is something just b/c they have had some strong regular season records.

They don;t understand the reality that having a good regular season, and then habitually turning to pudding in the postseason only makes them look even more pathetic, as it reveals a deep-seeded spinelessness woven into the DNA of the team again and again and again.

BTW, Romo just got sacked again...

Posted by: p1funk | August 16, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

MARKO MITCHELL had one pass thrown his way in MINNESOTA's first exhibition game. He caught it, shed two would be tacklers, and ran 71 yards for a TD. This per the ST.PAUL STAR-TRIBUNE comments section. Boy, I'm glad we don't have him to kick around anymore.

Posted by: glawrence007 | August 16, 2010 12:54 PM

Let me guess, late in the game against future 'sandwich artists' and dudes that will be delivering my packages?

Shocker.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 16, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

DS,

Don't bother. The Pies have sucked for a dozen years. They've won the same number of postseason games as the Skins during that time.

These stupid redneck Poke fans think their team is something just b/c they have had some strong regular season records.

They don;t understand the reality that having a good regular season, and then habitually turning to pudding in the postseason only makes them look even more pathetic, as it reveals a deep-seeded spinelessness woven into the DNA of the team again and again and again.

BTW, Romo just got sacked again...

Posted by: p1funk | August 16, 2010 12:56 PM |

Maybe I'm wrong but the 'Skins won 2 playoff games under Gibby 2.0. I thought it was '05 and they lost to Seattle in a game they would have won if Double Move could have held the ball.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 16, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Beck is gone, it was a smart trade, send a CB you're sure won't make your roster for a QB that might....but he looked bad against the Bills, and sounds like bad in camp too. He'd have to have a miraculous game somewhere along the way to have a shot, but with all the WR uncertainty and the crowded backfield, IMO Shanny does his usual and only keeps two QBs.

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 16, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse


Let me guess, late in the game against future 'sandwich artists' and dudes that will be delivering my packages?

Shocker.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 16, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse


Ummmm...it's still a heck of alot more than what Malcolm Kelly has shown us.

We released the wrong guy.

Posted by: p1funk | August 16, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Maybe I'm wrong but the 'Skins won 2 playoff games under Gibby 2.0. I thought it was '05 and they lost to Seattle in a game they would have won if Double Move could have held the ball.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 16, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

In 05 they beat Tampa Bay and then lost to Seattle in the next game.

Posted by: p1funk | August 16, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Dunno - it seems worse this pre-season. Like the ONE WIN in the post season in over a decade has given them hubris or something.

I'm not going to toot our horn here, 'cause there's so much to come back from .500 is a marked improvement.

But gzamb, you can't score a TD against Raydurs nor Cinci? wow.

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 16, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

it's still a heck of alot more than what Malcolm Kelly has shown us.

We released the wrong guy.

Posted by: p1funk | August 16, 2010 12:58 PM |
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you're right...Kelly got ran down by backups last season in SD

Posted by: jcnjcnj | August 16, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

OK gang, just got back from watching morning practice and I'd be happy to give my opinion on what I saw and what I didn't see... Ask away

Posted by: Hail2theChief | August 16, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse


it's still a heck of alot more than what Malcolm Kelly has shown us.

We released the wrong guy.

Posted by: p1funk | August 16, 2010 12:58 PM |
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you're right...Kelly got ran down by backups last season in SD

Posted by: jcnjcnj | August 16, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Just watched Mitchell's TD on NFL.com

Rosenfels underthrew the pass, and Mitchell made a nice adjustment to slow down and get underneath it. After catching the ball, with his back turned to the endzone and a DB bearing down on him, he fought off the would-be tackler with one arm, turned and accelerated into the endzone out-running another would-be tackler that was bearing down on him.

Posted by: p1funk | August 16, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Why do i have the feeling that Devin Thomas will soon be jreids Leigh Torrence?

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | August 16, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | August 16, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Chew on this: Super Bowl victories since 1990

Cowboys 3
Redskins 1

Are there any Redskins fans still alive who actually witnessed a Redskins championship? BTW, there is no bigger choker in the history of the NFL than Donovan McNabb. The Eagles should have had at least three rings by now if not for McNabb throwing up in his mouth and on his teammates in big games. Sorry to rain on your sorry-a$$, lame parade after one meaningless preseason game, morons. Pretty low expectations but I shouldn't be surprised.

Shanahan = Spurrier v2.0

John Elway ain't walking through that door.

Posted by: dallasinthedmv | August 16, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

From Redskins.com:

-- 9:12 a.m. ET

Austin On Offense

Rookie wide receiver Terrence Austin continues to get periodic reps with the first-team offense.

Even more important is that Austin is competing against the first-team defense.

Austin has impressed during training camp.

On one play during Monday’s practice, Austin appeared to get a step on Carlos Rogers. Donovan McNabb’s throw was over-thrown and Austin did not have a chance to make a catch.


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I think Austin is the true wild card of the WR battle. Unless Austin gives us something spectacular in the return game over the next couple preseason games, it looks like Banks might have that position sewn up, especially given his muffed catches Reid reported on this post. That means that Austin could likely be fighting for his spot as a pure WR (I don't recall if I saw him on any coverage units on ST; he's got a small frame, it's unlikely they'd rely on him to hit return men defensively).

The reports out of camp are that he is impressing as a WR, though. Getting reps with the first team offense is a great sign. I'm intrigued to watch his progression over the next few weeks as he fights for a spot.

Posted by: psps23 | August 16, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Considering that Kelly is not likely to make the team. The question should be weather Mithcell is better than Armstrong, Austin, Banks, R. Williams, Galloway, Wade, or Furrey. It seems that the coaches thought not.

Marko only had one pass thrown his way. Maybe because he couldn't get open on any of his other plays?

Posted by: kaasmaster | August 16, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

just as a reminder ... there's no use arguing with a cowjerk fan. Think of the pitiful person as a 3 year old. You don't argue or insult a 3 year old. You just put on a video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yh1DyvTuDA&feature=related

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 16, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

The thing that bothered me most at practice today was that when they ran 11 on 11 plays. Kelly was on a knee several rows behind the other players. Didn't seem to interested in the action or the plays being called.

Posted by: Hail2theChief | August 16, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

"BTW, there is no bigger choker in the history of the NFL than Donovan McNabb."

Sure there is.

Tony Romo.

Posted by: psps23 | August 16, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

OK gang, just got back from watching morning practice and I'd be happy to give my opinion on what I saw and what I didn't see... Ask away

Posted by: Hail2theChief | August 16, 2010 1:11 PM
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Is Beck as shaky in practice as he was in the game Friday?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 16, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Chew on this: Super Bowl victories since 1990

Cowboys 3
Redskins 1

Are there any Redskins fans still alive who actually witnessed a Redskins championship? BTW, there is no bigger choker in the history of the NFL than Donovan McNabb. The Eagles should have had at least three rings by now if not for McNabb throwing up in his mouth and on his teammates in big games. Sorry to rain on your sorry-a$$, lame parade after one meaningless preseason game, morons. Pretty low expectations but I shouldn't be surprised.

Shanahan = Spurrier v2.0

John Elway ain't walking through that door.

Posted by: dallasinthedmv | August 16, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

this coming from a guy with Tony Romo as his qb.....forgive if I find irony in that.

And yes, I was alive for all three super bowls and seeing as how neither team has done squat in the last decade in the playoffs maybe you ought to just shut it and wait until you actually perform before pretending you're anything but a 1st 8 game team each year.....

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 16, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

It sucks that MK12's hammy is healing way too slow for everybody concerned.

Having said that, MK12 has the kind of upside that is worth waiting for. Yeah, i know his history. But his size and hands are worth waiting for. There are 3 games to go in the pre. He needs to get on the practice field the Sunday after the baltimoron game, make it through the week, and show why he is a keeper when live bullets are flying in pre game 3. Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't.

And having said that, if you cut him now, you owe him injury money. If you wait until he is "healed", you can cut him for free. Redskins rolled with 79 players and an open spot until Sundberg proved he was too lame to long snap consistently and they brought in Dearth. Redskins have fortunately not needed the spot MK12 is occupying. You lose nothing waiting for him, and the upside is worth the wait.

PS Devin Thomas may be just too fu(king dumb to effectively play football in the NFL. Which is pretty fu(king dumb.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | August 16, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Considering that Kelly is not likely to make the team. The question should be weather Mithcell is better than Armstrong, Austin, Banks, R. Williams, Galloway, Wade, or Furrey. It seems that the coaches thought not.

Marko only had one pass thrown his way. Maybe because he couldn't get open on any of his other plays?

Posted by: kaasmaster | August 16, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse


I don't know why Kelly is exempt from the equation.

It seemed to me that when they chose to release Mitchell it was b/c they believed that Malcolm Kelly would be the guy to fill the niche on the receiving corps that Mitchell could otherwise fill (big receiver who could work in traffic, but doesn't play ST).

If Marko gets open only once a game for a 71 yard TD every game, then he's going to the ProBowl at the end of the year.

I'm not trying to beat this horse again, b/c we already whipped it lame when it first happened...but I believe that when it is all said and done, it will be apparent that releasing Marko Mitchell was a mistake.

Posted by: p1funk | August 16, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Are you guys kidding me? Arguing over how Marko Mitchell is doing in Minny’s preseason games? That’s straight up tart. Don’t you realize that Jason Campbell hasn’t led any touchdown drives for the Raiders yet? Now THAT’s what you should be arguing about.

And there is nothing stupider than thinking past super bowl trophies have any sort of bearing on how this season’s gonna play out. I was waiting for that one….the true mark of a desperate smack talker.

One more thing:

I DRIVE A DODGE STRATUS!!!! BIG TIME STUFF!!!!

Posted by: dlhaze1 | August 16, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

"Chew on this: Super Bowl victories since 1990 Cowboys 3 Redskins 1"

Cherry-pick much? You could just as easily have written, "how many NFC championships since the 1995 season? Answer Cowboys 0 Redskins 0."

Neither team has done that much. And I'm not sure they will this year, either.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 16, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

I think Austin is the true wild card of the WR battle. Unless Austin gives us something spectacular in the return game over the next couple preseason games, it looks like Banks might have that position sewn up, especially given his muffed catches Reid reported on this post. That means that Austin could likely be fighting for his spot as a pure WR (I don't recall if I saw him on any coverage units on ST; he's got a small frame, it's unlikely they'd rely on him to hit return men defensively).

The reports out of camp are that he is impressing as a WR, though. Getting reps with the first team offense is a great sign. I'm intrigued to watch his progression over the next few weeks as he fights for a spot.

Posted by: psps23 | August 16, 2010 1:23 PM
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Austin made one particularly nice catch in the game against Bills' starters. I think he's got game and he makes the team. They're not giving him time with the starters because he can't catch the ball, but his teams' work is nothing to write home about.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 16, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

OK gang, just got back from watching morning practice and I'd be happy to give my opinion on what I saw and what I didn't see... Ask away

Posted by: Hail2theChief | August 16, 2010 1:11 PM
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Is Beck as shaky in practice as he was in the game Friday?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 16, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

In 11 on 11 yeah he appeared to be shaky. He looks comfortable in drills but not in action.

Posted by: Hail2theChief | August 16, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

OK gang, just got back from watching morning practice and I'd be happy to give my opinion on what I saw and what I didn't see... Ask away

Posted by: Hail2theChief | August 16, 2010 1:11 PM
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Is Beck as shaky in practice as he was in the game Friday?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 16, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

In 11 on 11 yeah he appeared to be shaky. He looks comfortable in drills but not in action.

Posted by: Hail2theChief | August 16, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

cowboys fans = so full of themselves.

enough talking about McNabb... when was the last time the cowgirls did something meaningful in the playoffs? ANSWER THAT FOR ME! Oh yeah, YOU CAN'T. dumba**.

Posted by: rachel216 | August 16, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

OK gang, just got back from watching morning practice and I'd be happy to give my opinion on what I saw and what I didn't see... Ask away

Posted by: Hail2theChief | August 16, 2010 1:11 PM
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Is Beck as shaky in practice as he was in the game Friday?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 16, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

In 11 on 11 yeah he appeared to be shaky. He looks comfortable in drills but not in action.

Posted by: Hail2theChief | August 16, 2010 1:42 PM
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What about Bartel?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 16, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Not sure why people are still feeding the troll.

It's clear that building a coherent argument for his team is something that's way beyond his comprehension.

Instead, much like a caged chimpanzee at the zoo that flings its own poo at the wall for kicks, he is haphazardly throwing arbitrary thoughts and numbers out there to see if something sticks.

I say we do the humane thing, and instead of encouraging the troll, let's find him a short train to Dallas and send him home.

Posted by: p1funk | August 16, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

cowboys fans = so full of themselves.

enough talking about McNabb... when was the last time the cowgirls did something meaningful in the playoffs? ANSWER THAT FOR ME! Oh yeah, YOU CAN'T. dumba**.

Posted by: rachel216

rachel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yh1DyvTuDA&feature=related

How much more meaningful does it get?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 16, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

dallasinthedmv: answer the question!!

Posted by: rachel216 | August 16, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

OK gang, just got back from watching morning practice and I'd be happy to give my opinion on what I saw and what I didn't see... Ask away

Posted by: Hail2theChief | August 16, 2010 1:11 PM

How much work is Willie getting? How much are Torain and Williams getting?

Roydell or Joey starting?

How did Brown look at RT?

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 16, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

dallasinthedmv: McNabb a choker?

Haha, look at your own team. Romo is a big choker too. And where the hell are you getting that we're all parading around and saying we're going to the super bowl?

Everyone here is discussing topics, like our WRs. You're the dumb idiot trying to stir something up because you have no darn life.

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I bet you've never been to Texas, ever.... haha

Posted by: rachel216 | August 16, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

dallas dumazz = chia

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | August 16, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

dallasinthedmv: answer the question!!

Posted by: rachel216 | August 16, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

we all know the answer...so does he....don't demand an answer to a rhetorical question with an obvious answer...its redundant...

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 16, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

I'm not trying to beat this horse again, b/c we already whipped it lame when it first happened...but I believe that when it is all said and done, it will be apparent that releasing Marko Mitchell was a mistake.

Posted by: p1funk | August 16, 2010 1:38 PM

p1funk on Marko = vic1 TRAINING CAMP DIARY

Posted by: beep-beep | August 16, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Is it just me or did Ryan Torain and the other back up look pretty good?

I know it was against the Bills scrubs, but they both looked like they have more burst than Clinton. I guess well see what LJ looks like next week.

It would sure be nice knowing that we have two capable backs for the future.

Posted by: Devo2 | August 16, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

How much more meaningful does it get?

Posted by: zcezcest1

I will never get sick of watching that. :) Thank you, Tony Romo, for that. It definitely was one of the happiest moments in my life. =)

Posted by: rachel216 | August 16, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dallasinthedmv | August 16, 2010 1:21 PM

LOL.

Tony Romo.

Super Bowl Championships in the 1980's: Redskins 3 Dallas 0.

Times Dallas has beaten Washington in the playoffs: ZERO.

Russ Grimm and John Riggins over Randy White. 31-17.

Its too easy sometimes.

Posted by: Rypien11 | August 16, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

OK gang, just got back from watching morning practice and I'd be happy to give my opinion on what I saw and what I didn't see... Ask away

Posted by: Hail2theChief | August 16, 2010 1:11 PM

How much work is Willie getting? How much are Torain and Williams getting?

Roydell or Joey starting?

How did Brown look at RT?

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 16, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

All good questions:
LJ received more work than Fast Willie today but FWP had the crowd cheering with the run of the day...
Torain and Williams saw their fair share as well as CP really had the day off. I've liked what I've seen from Williams except ball security issues.
I'm concerned about Jamal Brown. He moves well in action but moves so gingerly in between reps and very slow to and from practice.
oh and I saw #84 Galloway with the 2WR set and Roydell come in with the 2s...

Posted by: Hail2theChief | August 16, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

I dont understand the people who make a big deal about Kelly's size and hands. He is not fast. He does not run good routes. those two things limit his ability to get open. If you can't get open, the ball is not going to come your way very often.

Posted by: kaasmaster | August 16, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

I forgot to mention ruining Dallas' season twice in the last 4 years: 35-7 and 27-6. How did your season go after those two games?

Posted by: Rypien11 | August 16, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

rachel, the more you address, acknowledge those types, the more they stay around...ignore them, and they go away....get it??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 16, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

They guy who impressed me the most Friday night was D Young. Beck, Torrain and Williams should all thank him for obliterating blitzers and would be tacklers.

I say keep CP, LJ, Torrain, Williams, BMS, and DY. Sellers can also play Hback/Jumbo, and DY can play teams with his LB background.

This is where stealing a roster spot by keeping only two QB comes in handy.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | August 16, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Is it just me or did Ryan Torain and the other back up look pretty good?

I know it was against the Bills scrubs, but they both looked like they have more burst than Clinton. I guess well see what LJ looks like next week.

It would sure be nice knowing that we have two capable backs for the future.

Posted by: Devo2 | August 16, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

No its not just you. They both looked very promising. The backfield will still be CP26s however we now can keep backups with some real upside and varying skills. Torain was a great pass catcher in college, and Williams looked solid in short yardage and all around really...

Posted by: Stu27 | August 16, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Rachel

The last time Dallas did something meaningful in the playoffs...hmmmm? Good one. Hmmmm...LAST YEAR!!!! Is that recent enough for you? Any playoff win is meaningful. Just ask Zorn and Cerrato. They'd both still be in Washington if they had managed a playoff victory last year and you know it. Dallas has won more recently than Washington and is positioned well this year to win it all. We beat McNabb (your Savior) three straight times last year. Stop hating!!!

Posted by: dallasinthedmv | August 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Just watched Mitchell's TD on NFL.com

Rosenfels underthrew the pass, and Mitchell made a nice adjustment to slow down and get underneath it. After catching the ball, with his back turned to the endzone and a DB bearing down on him, he fought off the would-be tackler with one arm, turned and accelerated into the endzone out-running another would-be tackler that was bearing down on him.

Posted by: p1funk | August 16, 2010 1:12 PM


Is "would-be tackler" in your post code for 'future deli meat slicer'?

Because, that would explain a lot. I love when a fan really believes they are a better judge of who should be cut and not cut than the coaching staff.

I liked what I had seen from Mitchell - granted it was late in the game against losers. But, I also trust the staff when they say he didn't have what it took 'upstairs' to afford him a roster slot.

By the way, Blue Star Ointment fans, can you really do a line by line statistical comparison of McNabb v. Romo or would that cause you to have to deal too much with reality?

I love the Romo is the head choker for the 'Pies. Please, don't bench him or trade him - PLEASE! To all of his opponents, he is the gift that keeps on giving - literally - as in giving the ball away when it counts.

Dallas is turning into a team of players that think because they are on the team, they are going to be anointed champs. I'd rather have a team coming into the season that's salty and pissed about losing and .500 seasons - especially in the first game.

Haney will go off - Book it.

McNabb will light it up - Book it.

Cooley will be a mismatch for any linebacker - Book it.

Shannahan vs. the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man? Bet the house and Book it!

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 16, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

LJ received more work than Fast Willie today but FWP had the crowd cheering with the run of the day...
Torain and Williams saw their fair share as well as CP really had the day off. I've liked what I've seen from Williams except ball security issues.
I'm concerned about Jamal Brown. He moves well in action but moves so gingerly in between reps and very slow to and from practice.
oh and I saw #84 Galloway with the 2WR set and Roydell come in with the 2s...

Posted by: Hail2theChief | August 16, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse


Thanks!

Are you able to hear anything that the coaches are saying?

My biggest concern from the Buffalo game was it seemed like Andre Carter really struggled in coverage, the backs and TE had good gains on him on that first drive and I thought he looked slow. Did they address that any?

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 16, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Is it just me or did Ryan Torain and the other back up look pretty good?

I know it was against the Bills scrubs, but they both looked like they have more burst than Clinton. I guess well see what LJ looks like next week.

It would sure be nice knowing that we have two capable backs for the future.

Posted by: Devo2 | August 16, 2010 1:53 PM
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I dont know about the more burst than CP but they both look ok...i think they both run too high..

Posted by: jcnjcnj | August 16, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

dallasinthedmv: You just contradicted yourself. Then McNabb has done much more meaningful things than Romo has ever done.

I'm not hating. You're bringing it upon yourself. No one told you to post on a REDSKINS blog.

Posted by: rachel216 | August 16, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Are there any Redskins fans still alive who actually witnessed a Redskins championship?

Posted by: dallasinthedmv | August 16, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Weird handle you got there chief, because there is no Dallas in the DMV. But yeah, I saw the Redskins utterly destroy the Cowboys in not one, but two Championship games. And I'm not even that old. Ah hahahahahahahah

Posted by: Pepper5 | August 16, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

p1funk on Marko = vic1 TRAINING CAMP DIARY

Posted by: beep-beep | August 16, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse


beep-beep on p1funk = a jock-strap on the groin


Beep-beep, I'll send you an official "I (heart) p1funk" bumper sticker and an autographed photo...that way, when I'm not blogging up here you can have something to stare at longingly while you eagerly wait by the keyboard for me to appear.

Posted by: p1funk | August 16, 2010 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Don't let MK bowl, or he's liable to pull the other hamstring...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 16, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse
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MK could tweak his hamstring while playing Madden on 'Injury: Off' Mode

Posted by: mattsoundworld | August 16, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

p1, he's got a point....why bother posting crap up here about ex-redskin players?? He didn't make it here, and he didn't make it in Detroit.....what more do you need to know?

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 16, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Thanks!

Are you able to hear anything that the coaches are saying?

My biggest concern from the Buffalo game was it seemed like Andre Carter really struggled in coverage, the backs and TE had good gains on him on that first drive and I thought he looked slow. Did they address that any?

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 16, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

You can't hear much and what you do hear usually doesn't make too much sense unless you know the whole conversation...I think Friday night was Carter's nerves. They were all amped up and he was way too aggressive. That didn't happen in practice today. The defense kept the O bottled up on all but maybe 3 plays...

Posted by: Hail2theChief | August 16, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Book these:

Carter won't be a starter.

I Doughty Reid makes the final cut.

DT won't get much PT.

Fletch will be key down the stretch.

'Haney will have a heart attack like Chaney.

Horton will be sportin'.

Kelly will be workin' at the deli.

Moss will aid in the 'Pokes' first loss.

Shanny is gonna spank 'Fades fanny....which will please Danny.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 16, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 16, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

NPI, the only thing better than a fan criticizing a coach's decision is listening to another fan who passes his time bloviating on a blog criticize another poster for writing his opinion.

Good stuff, buddy, I'm loving it.]

Anyhow you are probably right...the decision to hang on to Kelly looks like its really going to pay dividends for this coaching staff...

Posted by: p1funk | August 16, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

MK could tweak his hamstring while playing Madden on 'Injury: Off' Mode

Posted by: mattsoundworld | August 16, 2010 2:07 PM
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funny!

Posted by: jcnjcnj | August 16, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

p1, he's got a point....why bother posting crap up here about ex-redskin players?? He didn't make it here, and he didn't make it in Detroit.....what more do you need to know?

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 16, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Someone else posted the tidbit on Mitchell...I just responded.

With Kelly's paper-mache hamstrings and everyone wondering who can make plays in this smurf-sized receiving corps after Moss, it interests me to see how a guy we released is doing in preseason.

Of course people who aren't interested in the discussion are free to ignore the posts or keep feeding the Dallas trolls...whichever they prefer...

Posted by: p1funk | August 16, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Beep-beep, I'll send you an official "I (heart) p1funk" bumper sticker and an autographed photo...that way, when I'm not blogging up here you can have something to stare at longingly while you eagerly wait by the keyboard for me to appear.

Posted by: p1funk | August 16, 2010 2:05 PM |

Hate to break it to you, but there isn't anyone who "eagerly waits by the keyboard for you to appear". You're as delusional as Vic1 who thinks the stuff he posts up here is funny.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 16, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

McNabb's last three performances vs. Cowboys

11/8/09:
16/30 1 TD, 2 INTs, 61.4 rating

1/3/10:
20/36 0 TD, 0 INT, 74.2 rating

1/9/10:
19/37 1 TD, 1 INT, 68.5 rating

Three straignt victories by the 'Boys and losing play by McNabb. Still touting McNabb as something other than a stumble-bum? I submit that the Redskins bit - hook, line and sinker - on McNabb and got fleeced by the Eagles. Still curious about why McNabb has a new address?

That's the first and last favor I'll do for you blind, blind followers. Get ready to eat some crow September 12-13.

kthxbye

Posted by: dallasinthedmv | August 16, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 16, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

NPI, the only thing better than a fan criticizing a coach's decision is listening to another fan who passes his time bloviating on a blog criticize another poster for writing his opinion.

Good stuff, buddy, I'm loving it.]

Anyhow you are probably right...the decision to hang on to Kelly looks like its really going to pay dividends for this coaching staff...

Posted by: p1funk | August 16, 2010 2:12 PM |

I dare you to put Marko on your ff team then.....if he actually MAKES a team this year. That's all I am saying. And no, I couldn't give a sh*t about Kelly. He sucks balls also. Besides, I am not ripping anyone here, I am only saying why I am cool with Mitchell having been cut despite enjoying watching him light up scrubs.

Is that okay with you sir? Now, go back to cutting my lawn doosh face.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 16, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Chew on this: Super Bowl victories since 1990

Cowboys 3
Redskins 1

Are there any Redskins fans still alive who actually witnessed a Redskins championship? BTW, there is no bigger choker in the history of the NFL than Donovan McNabb. The Eagles should have had at least three rings by now if not for McNabb throwing up in his mouth and on his teammates in big games. Sorry to rain on your sorry-a$$, lame parade after one meaningless preseason game, morons. Pretty low expectations but I shouldn't be surprised.

Shanahan = Spurrier v2.0

John Elway ain't walking through that door.


Posted by: dallasinthedmv | August 16, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Dallas has bragging rights....that's about it. The Super Bowl argument is idiotic. Compare the whole body of work and both teams have 5 championships each.

Posted by: jdumb | August 16, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Of course people who aren't interested in the discussion are free to ignore the posts...

Posted by: p1funk | August 16, 2010 2:20 PM

And people who aren't interested in the feedback on their posts are likewise free...

Posted by: beep-beep | August 16, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Man, I wish we had a mastermind like Wade Phillips leading us to the playoffs. That 1-6 playoff record over nine years of head coaching is impressive.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | August 16, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

for those who want a JC17, errr, JC8 update ...
turns out the optimism of change in Oakland is running into reality. The WRs aren't very good and the OL is bad. Seasons like DEBACLE '09 ® are SOP for the Raiders.


http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2010/08/15/raiders-cant-get-air-attack-off-ground/

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 16, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

I dare you to put Marko on your ff team then.....if he actually MAKES a team this year. That's all I am saying. And no, I couldn't give a sh*t about Kelly. He sucks balls also.


Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 16, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse


Well the Shannys thought Kelly was worth keeping around.

To coin a thought already posted up here by someone:

"I love when a fan really believes they are a better judge of who should be cut and not cut than the coaching staff."

Posted by: p1funk | August 16, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

but don't act like Romo has never choked before...actually that's all he does.. in fact he probably likes playing golf more than football.

Romo's playoff record = 1-3

End of story.

kthxbye

Posted by: rachel216 | August 16, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Hate to break it to you, but there isn't anyone who "eagerly waits by the keyboard for you to appear". You're as delusional as Vic1 who thinks the stuff he posts up here is funny.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 16, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Really?

Because I seem to see you following me on the blog every time I look over my shoulder.

I mean, it's cool and all, the way you eagerly jump to respond to each every one of my posts.

When I think people are delusional and not funny, I ignore them...but that's just me...I guess other people shadow them like obsesive sychophants...

Posted by: p1funk | August 16, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

I dare you to put Marko on your ff team then.....if he actually MAKES a team this year. That's all I am saying. And no, I couldn't give a sh*t about Kelly. He sucks balls also.


Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 16, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse


Well the Shannys thought Kelly was worth keeping around.

To coin a thought already posted up here by someone:

"I love when a fan really believes they are a better judge of who should be cut and not cut than the coaching staff."

Posted by: p1funk | August 16, 2010 2:29 PM |

Please sir, show me where I commented on who should be cut and not cut?

Oh yeah, you can't.

Dude, even your cut-n-paste/comments/retorts make you look like an idiot.

You sure don't need my help with that.

You're crying over a dude that got cut over a year ago, then cut again and now is about to be cut again? What? Do you have a thing for Mitchell? You sure sound like it. Get Marko's balls off of your chin and start paying attention so I can stop having to own you on your pathetic little bickerings.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 16, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

There are really only 3 groups of Cowboys fans. People that live or are from Dallas. People that were between the ages of 6-16 during the Staubach era. People that were 6-16 during the Aikman era.

Posted by: saltine182 | August 16, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Dallas is toast come Sept. 12th.

Like I said, no need to worry about the O-line, Jammal Brown will be fine.

TW is as advertised, worthy of the 4th pick.

The Skins are playing with some fire, just wait until that crowd is rocking at FedEx.

Posted by: iH8dallas | August 16, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Question of the day: what weight bowling ball does Brandon Banks use? That dude is tiny. He looks like a kid playing amongst adults.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 16, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

McNabb's last three performances vs. Cowboys

11/8/09:
16/30 1 TD, 2 INTs, 61.4 rating

1/3/10:
20/36 0 TD, 0 INT, 74.2 rating

1/9/10:
19/37 1 TD, 1 INT, 68.5 rating

Three straignt victories by the 'Boys and losing play by McNabb. Still touting McNabb as something other than a stumble-bum? I submit that the Redskins bit - hook, line and sinker - on McNabb and got fleeced by the Eagles. Still curious about why McNabb has a new address?

That's the first and last favor I'll do for you blind, blind followers. Get ready to eat some crow September 12-13.

kthxbye

Posted by: dallasinthedmv | August 16, 2010 2:22 PM

good one! he-he-he.

Posted by: 10peterbilt | August 16, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of the Aikman era,, heres a little gem that I found... Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BynBZNiE9EA

Posted by: iHAVEfaith | August 16, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Buffalo might end up with the worst record in football this year. They are terrible and their division is stacked.

Posted by: Stu27 | August 16, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: iH8dallas | August 16, 2010 2:49 PM

Bus tuned up and ready for action?

Posted by: stevek20147 | August 16, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Saltine, I put 'em all into one category:

Suck.

RSH: Duckpin.

iH8? Really? I'm not so confident.

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 16, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: iH8dallas | August 16, 2010 2:49 PM

Bus tuned up and ready for action?

Posted by: stevek20147 | August 16, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

The bus is ready. I've converted it to run on an alternative fuel. Matt Mosely gets his stomach pumped twice a week, after lengthy "interviews" with Dallas employees. He just spits some white substance into the gas tank...Gets about 50mpg.

Posted by: iH8dallas | August 16, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

@iHF: "I'm Batman"! rofl-copter.

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 16, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse


The bus is ready. I've converted it to run on an alternative fuel. Matt Mosely gets his stomach pumped twice a week, after lengthy "interviews" with Dallas employees. He just spits some white substance into the gas tank...Gets about 50mpg.

Posted by: iH8dallas | August 16, 2010 3:01 PM

the alternative fuel is redskins losses. you'll never get stranded. he-he-he!

Posted by: 10peterbilt | August 16, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

10peterbilt: how old are you? 10?

Posted by: rachel216 | August 16, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

It's this kind of mindless psychobabble why the NFL is going out of business by next spring.

Basketball ain't far behind, either.

Posted by: bs2004 | August 16, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

iH8, does the ssfff work for preseason games?

Just curious how we'll look this week against the crows.

Posted by: stevek20147 | August 16, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

There are really only 3 groups of Cowboys fans. People that live or are from Dallas. People that were between the ages of 6-16 during the Staubach era. People that were 6-16 during the Aikman era.

Posted by: saltine182 | August 16, 2010 2:44 PM |
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there's a 4th group....Romosexuals

Posted by: jcnjcnj | August 16, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

10peterbilt: how old are you? 10?

Posted by: rachel216

Rachel, mentally yes. No self respecting adult ever types "he-he-he" on a football blog. The fact he's a cowgirl fan makes perfect sense now.

Posted by: Predator48 | August 16, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

I eagerly wait by the keyboard for p1funk to appear.


I love everybody.

Posted by: freakzilla | August 16, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Hate to break it to you, but there isn't anyone who "eagerly waits by the keyboard for you to appear". You're as delusional as Vic1 who thinks the stuff he posts up here is funny.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 16, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Really?

Because I seem to see you following me on the blog every time I look over my shoulder.

I mean, it's cool and all, the way you eagerly jump to respond to each every one of my posts.

When I think people are delusional and not funny, I ignore them...but that's just me...I guess other people shadow them like obsesive sychophants...

Posted by: p1funk | August 16, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse


--

Agree. There are a few self-appointed blog police here who seem to think they've earned exclusive rights to post to the blog, and the right to decide who else may join their little circle jerk.

I might think it's rather gratifying that some would care so much about what I might have to say, but also a bit worrisome that someone has such an obsessive man-crush on me.

Not that there's anything wrong with that sort of thing, but let's just say I'm straight and have no interest in walking on the wild side with the likes of beeps, beans and scamper.

Posted by: Vic1 | August 16, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Buffalo might end up with the worst record in football this year. They are terrible and their division is stacked.

Posted by: Stu27 | August 16, 2010 2:56 PM
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They were devoid of talent and then they brought Chan Gailey in to coach them. Now they are being plagued by injuries. They are not just terrible. They are DOOMED.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 16, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

In reference to the whole JC and the Raiders being vastly improved thing, I never understood it. The Raiders WR's are worse then what the Skins had last yr, the O line is just as bad, but all of a sudden, JC, who didn't do crap the past year and a half for the Skins, was going to be their savior? Foolishness

Posted by: ga8085 | August 16, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

"Football Outsiders projects the Cowboys to have 7.5 wins this season. Put those parade plans in Arlington on hold, huh?"

"...managing editor Bill Barnwell will explain how the heck the defending NFC East champions could be considered a below-average bunch..."

"A lot of folks see the Cowboys as Super Bowl contenders. Football Outsiders projects them to be a sub-.500 team. Do your statistical formulas have an anti-Cowboys bias?"

"Barnwell: Ha. I feel like we're back in 2008 all over again... a few things our prediction system suggests are worth discussing..."

"1) They're unlikely to be this healthy from year to year. This is something we brought up in 2008 that ended up being pretty key to Dallas's system. Then, Tony Romo got hurt. Last year, DeMarcus Ware had that really nasty sprained neck, but the Cowboys doctors were able to amazingly get him back on the field six days later for the Saturday night game against the Saints that he just took over...the margin of error there is pretty slim. The Cowboys are a top-heavy team, and avoiding injuries to their stars is a dance they have to do each year."

"2) They have an extremely old offensive line, even with Doug Free at left tackle. Old offensive lines like that tend to collapse, with a combination of injury and decline in performance. Free, although he's looked good in training camp, is also a question mark."

"3) We're expecting the Redskins and Giants to play better in 2010, especially Washington. That makes Dallas's schedule more difficult."

"There are some positive factors for Dallas as well; namely, their third-down defense was miserable last year (25th in the league in DVOA, as opposed to fifth on first down and 15th on second down), and that...will improve in the subsequent season."

"We've got the Cowboys down for 7.5 wins. I think that's a little low, but I think the NFC East comes down to who stays healthiest and who wins those division games. That can come down to a fumble recovery at the right time."

"Football Outsiders saw Miles Austin coming. Well, sort of: He was No. 1 last year on your list of potential breakout players who had never been starters. What do you project for his encore after he emerged as a Pro Bowler?"

"Barnwell: Heh. We said last year that Miles Austin was really talented and had Pro Bowl potential ... but I don't think even we would have suggested that Austin was going to make the Pro Bowl in 2010...it's remarkable that the Cowboys have been able to churn two Pro Bowlers Austin and Jay Ratliff -- off of the bottom of their roster.Our projection system has him at 63 catches for 970 yards and 7 TD...As great as he was after the catch last year, even the league's best receivers don't produce that much YAC from year-to-year. He'll still be good after he gets the ball in his hands...just not THAT good. He's also struggled with injuries as a pro..."

MORE TO FOLLOW, COWBOYZ FANZ ----

Posted by: Samson151 | August 16, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

dont let malcolm kelly go up the stairs in his house, he will pull a quadricept

Posted by: mrhney03 | August 16, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

vic, yeah, my b for suggesting that your stupid 'dear diary' segment be put off for a day or 2 in order for the tiny amount of humor thats it it be restored.....by all means continue to be the jackazz of the blog....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 16, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

More from the FootballOutsiders prediction for the Dallas Cowboys:

Question:" the Dallas offensive line, especially Pro Bowlers Andre Gurode and Leonard Davis, took a lot of heat around here this offseason. Do your numbers justify that?"

"Barnwell: I don't think that's totally fair. Dallas was third in Adjusted Line Yards last season, which is our stat that measures an offensive line's ability to clear consistent holes for a back to gain solid yardage from play to play. The one place that I can say they really did struggle is in power situations, which we define as runs with two yards to go or fewer on third or fourth down, as well as all other runs from inside the opposition's two-yard line. Dallas only converted 58 percent of those, which was 26th in the league."

Question: "how close is Mike Jenkins to being an elite cornerback?"

"Barnwell: Funny what a year can do for a guy! We had Jenkins as 15th in the league in our Yards per Attempt metric, and he was 36th in Success Rate, which measures how frequently passes in a player's direction pushed the offense towards a first down. Not exactly Darrelle Revis, but good numbers for a guy in his second year. He broke up 18 passes, which is one of the reasons why he got a lot of hype last year, but I think he's playing at a reasonably high level already."

Question: "what’s the biggest weakness you see for the Cowboys?"

"Barnwell: I think you have to say safety, no? I certainly think that Jenkins and Terence Newman make for a good combination of cornerbacks, but I just see DeSean Jackson having a field day against Dallas downfield at some point this year."

Wow -- what a downer, huh? And here's Dallas getting ready for the victory parade from downtown to the Jerry Dome.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 16, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

In reference to the whole JC and the Raiders being vastly improved thing, I never understood it. The Raiders WR's are worse then what the Skins had last yr, the O line is just as bad, but all of a sudden, JC, who didn't do crap the past year and a half for the Skins, was going to be their savior? Foolishness

Posted by: ga8085 | August 16, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

In comparison to Jamarcus Russell, if JC can put up 3500 yards and 20 TDs like he did last year for the 'Skins, he'll look like a godsend for Oakland. The difference is not JC turning into Peyton Manning in Oakland, it's JC simply being JC, which is about 20x above the level they've seen at QB for the last 3 years.

Posted by: psps23 | August 16, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Buffalo might end up with the worst record in football this year. They are terrible and their division is stacked.

Posted by: Stu27 | August 16, 2010 2:56 PM
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They were devoid of talent and then they brought Chan Gailey in to coach them. Now they are being plagued by injuries. They are not just terrible. They are DOOMED.

Posted by: RedSkinHead

Its gonna be tough in Buffalo. Their OL was a shambles last year -- and they chose Spiller, an RB, in the draft. Even though RB was their strongest spot on offense (Jackson and Lynch are both good talents). I can't find any logic in the way Buffalo has managed the team. Gailey is an acceptable HC, but the Bill's FO is a mess. Even their defense, which had some moments last year (5 picks off Sanchez, for example), lost Aaron Schoebel, who was among their better players.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 16, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Listen up cowboy fans. The last quality QB you guys had is now callin games. Fact!!

The only part of Romos game I have SERIOUS respect for is the tail the man has pulled, and that doesn't have much to do with football.

Just think Seattle game.... nuff said.

Posted by: skins91r | August 16, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

A few moments to reflect on actual Skins related news F the cowboy talk up here today.

Anywho for those who have been critical of DT work habits (I'll admit I have been one too), here's encouraging words from the HC...taken from csnwahington.com
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*Receiver Devin Thomas is still working with the third-team offense, but drew praise from Shanahan.

“His attitude has been great,” Shanahan said. “He’s gone out there and worked and tried to improve every day. I like his attitude and his work ethic.”

Posted by: TWISI | August 16, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

How's about we keep it to this CENTURY, ddmv?

2000-present

Super Bowl Appearances:

McNabb 1

Romo/Dallas 0

Redskins 0


NFC Title Appearances

McNabb 4

Romo/Dallas 0

Redskins 0


Playoff Appearances:

McNabb 8
[out of 9 years 2000-2004 & 2006-2009]

Romo/Dallas 4
[2003, 2006, 2007, 2009]

Redskins 2
[2005, 2007]


Playoff WINS:

McNabb TILT!
[not even going to TRY and count them all]

Romo/Dallas: 0

Redskins: 1


So to review, either the Redskins OR McNabb have won more games than the Dallas contingent this decade/CENTURY.

But now...McNabb is a Redskin...the math is so simple even a Cowboy fan can see.

Last 10 Head to head:

Dallas 5, Washington 5...so no dominance there either, spunky!

Posted by: ThinkingMan | August 16, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse


Wow -- what a downer, huh? And here's Dallas getting ready for the victory parade from downtown to the Jerry Dome.


Posted by: Samson151 | August 16, 2010 3:36 PM

no downer. did they pick the saints to go 13-3 last year? colts to go 14-2? i'm not impressed. i guess they're outsiders for a reason. redskinz are serious trouble.

Posted by: 10peterbilt | August 16, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

I might think it's rather gratifying that some would care so much about what I might have to say, but also a bit worrisome that someone has such an obsessive man-crush on me.

Posted by: Vic1 | August 16, 2010 3:26 PM

SUMMER VACATION DIARY by Vic1

This vacation has been so boring since my X-Box broke. I can hardly wait to start high school!!!!

The only thing that has kept me going is posting on Redskins Insider. Without that, I wouldn't have anything to do except....gee, I can't even think on anything.

I have written such funny stuff and even though no one else thinks it's funny, I know it is. Pearls before swine! If they don't get sarcasm that's just because they're all adults and have lost their Fun Button.

Well, I don't want to bore myself anymore with this stupid diary so I'll stop for today.

Your BFF,

Vic1

Posted by: beep-beep | August 16, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

beans

Thanks, I think. Am pleased to hear you finally got a paying job... and with the WAPO blog police office too.

And I gather they also given you the go ahead to post your PFT articles whenever the spirit moves you.

Not that there's anything wrong with that either...

As you say (at least thrice a day)... just ITA and maybe they'll go away.

Posted by: Vic1 | August 16, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

10"peterpuffer = #1 Troll on teh threads

MrPervin66 needs to step it up!

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | August 16, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Now for a guy I might call a bust, unless he somehow makes it in Seattle:

Kentwan Balmer, a 2008 1st round DT for San Francisco who has been AWOL from 49ers camp, was traded to the Seahawks today. Former SF GM Scott McCloughan drated Balmer 29th and is now with Seattle. The 49ers received a 6th round pick.

Balmer was behind two other players at LDE.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 16, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse


unfortunately, it's not 2000 or even 2001.
donovan mcscabb has stunk it up against dallas recently (you know, the team you have to play 9/12/10), so don't you dare act surprised and cry after you lose. i'd say dallas' three straight beatdowns of mcfatt is the definition of dominance. nice try, sparky.

Posted by: 10peterbilt | August 16, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

EDIT-Dallas did get a playoff win so now they JUST AS GOOD as the Redskins...finally

Posted by: ThinkingMan | August 16, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

can they please just cut thomas and kelly and get on with it

Posted by: BMACattack | August 16, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Now for a guy I might call a bust, unless he somehow makes it in Seattle:

Kentwan Balmer, a 2008 1st round DT for San Francisco who has been AWOL from 49ers camp, was traded to the Seahawks today. Former SF GM Scott McCloughan drated Balmer 29th and is now with Seattle. The 49ers received a 6th round pick.

Balmer was behind two other players at LDE.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 16, 2010 3:53 PM

You know, if Vinny were still here we would have traded Haynesworth for him plus a conditional pick (5th or 6th). "Hey we got rid of a headache for a FIRST ROUNDER plus a pick!"

Posted by: beep-beep | August 16, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

"The only thing that has kept me going is posting on Redskins Insider. Without that, I wouldn't have anything to do except....gee, I can't even think on anything"

SO SAYETH THE DUDE-DUDE THAT JUST WASTED AN ENTIRE DAY BLOGGING AWAY

--

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Posted by: Vic1 | August 16, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

"no downer. did they pick the saints to go 13-3 last year? colts to go 14-2? i'm not impressed. i guess they're outsiders for a reason. redskinz are serious trouble.
Posted by: 10peterbilt"

Well, that doesn't make much sense. They liked both Indy and NO last season, although nobody had the Saints winning the Super Bowl. And this season they're going against the pundits and picking the Cowboys to finish 8-8. I mean, we'll all get to see the outcome, but at least those footballoutsiders guys have evidence to support their picks (which the article explains).

Posted by: Samson151 | August 16, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Some comments from Mark Gaughan, the Buffalo Bills beat writer, from shortly before the game last week (fwiw, I corresponded with him on Art Monk and the HOF, he was very pro Art -- he provides the HOF voters with their Andre Reed info)

responding to a stadium question

A
Mark Gaughan:
Ultimately the (Bills) franchise will need a new stadium ... But the franchise has done a great job of maintaining the Ralph ... with good contributions from NYS ... It got a massive rebuild in '98, and they have stayed on top of it every offseason ... They replaced more seats this year ... They fix joints in the understructure every year ... They fortify beams and walls, etc ... IF anyone goes to the game tonight ... They're letting that place in DC go to the dogs ... And they'll get a new stadium ... Jerry Jones in Dallas let basic repairs go undone in Dallas as a way of getting a new stadium on a faster track ... The DC stadium was built on the cheap and isn't that nice, by the way ...

******

Q
was Brian Orakpo passed up because the Bills didnt want to pay him the money he would deserve? instead we took Maybin, who so far looks like James Hardy, in the WTF department

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Mark Gaughan:
I don't quite understand, since Orakpo would have gotten the same money as Maybin in the slot ... It's all about the slotting ... You and I could come up with the numbers in negotiating ... I think there was a little bit of a sense they were scared off by another Texas guy ... given their bad experiences with Big Mike and Derrick Dockery ..

*****

Q:
Mark, really appreciate your style in this format. What do you make of McNabb in Washington with Shanahan? Can they revive the Redskins in a tough NFC East?

A:
Mark Gaughan:
Thanks ... I think the Skins are trying to win over the next 3 years ... This year included ... You're right ... real tough division ... I think the Giants are a bit under the radar if that's possible in NYC ... I like the Giants to be a real threat this year .. I'll take Dallas and the Giants over Washington ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 16, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

I guess my point is, it may be Dallas that gets the bigger surprise this coming season.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 16, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

My fellow Skins fans there is room for cautious optimism and I stress cautious.

We have ZERO wideouts and an AARP backfield. One injury on the O-line and it falls off the tracks. Plus it's a new system on both sides of the ball.

I'm just hopin we still have a reason to watch past Halloween for a change.

Posted by: skins91r | August 16, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 10"peterpuffer | August 16, 2010 3:54 PM

BOOMSHAKALAKA!!!

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | August 16, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

"i'd say dallas' three straight beatdowns of mcfatt is the definition of dominance. nice try, sparky."

This isn't the Eagles dorkboy, it's the Redskins and there's a new sheriff in town.

It's going to be interesting for the Cowgirls game planning for a team that they've never game planned for in the past.

Good luck on the 12th.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | August 16, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

On that photo of Rex on the Post's Redskins page, doesn't he look like he's getting ready to direct "A Chorus Line"?

Posted by: Samson151 | August 16, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait to prove the Dallas idiots wrong.

Posted by: iH8dallas | August 16, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

This isn't the Eagles dorkboy, it's the Redskins and there's a new sheriff in town.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | August 16, 2010 4:00 PM

but it is donovan mcdumbb facing the cowboys, dumbazz. you mean the sheriff who was unemployed last year due to choking his last season in denver? (*smiling in amazement*)

Posted by: 10peterbilt | August 16, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

"My biggest concern from the Buffalo game was it seemed like Andre Carter really struggled..."

Personally I see Carter in danger of getting cut, he sucks at OLB and when he rushed he always rushed too far and they just ran under him.

He's a 4-3 DE, not an OLB by any stretch.

"In comparison to Jamarcus Russell, if JC can put up 3500 yards and 20 TDs like he did last year for the 'Skins, he'll look like a godsend for Oakland."

Well I watched that game against Dallas and the bad news for Oakland is that he looked like Jason Campbell.

Good news for the Redskins is that the Dallas o-line has HUGE holes in it.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | August 16, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

SO SAYETH THE DUDE-DUDE THAT JUST WASTED AN ENTIRE DAY BLOGGING AWAY

Posted by: Vic1 | August 16, 2010 3:57 PM |

Really? Four posts? And if you read them, you'll see that they're all different. Not a single re-post. You, on the other hand, post the very same "TRAINING CAMP DIARY" eight or nine times a day. And, you know what? It never seems to get better regardless of how many times you post it.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 16, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

fwiw, the relief aircraft carriers I proposed when the Haiti discussion was going on ... today, with the meds, food and water, they be in Pakistan. What a massive disaster.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 16, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

No_Punt_I,

Once and for all - I think Marko would have given us a better preseason showing than Kelly. I was in favor of keeping him and letting Kelly walk during the summer. It's interesting to see him making plays while Kelly nurses his silly-putty hamstring for a 3rd consecutive year.

I find the whole "coaches know more than fans" line that appears up here from time to time to be an asinine thing to say between putzes like you and me who sit here and blog about the team all day.

That is all.

Now if you want to "own" me, then make a bid...I could be had for the right price.

If you still want me to mow your lawn; I'd be happy to help. I've got a Yard Machine Tractor.

Posted by: p1funk | August 16, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

3 guys who had intersting games vs Buffalo all made Keins 'dud' list today

RB Keiland Williams. His problem at LSU? Fumbles. What did he do this morning when hit by H.B. Blades? Fumble.

WR Brandon Banks. Beat Ramzee Robinson on a go-route, but had Richard Bartel’s pass slip through his arms. Looked like he could have caught the ball. Earlier, attempting to block Justin Tryon, he was thrown to the ground. I’ll have a little more on him in my notes/analysis.

PR Terrence Austin. He dropped two punts in a row, both times he had to move a little bit to catch them. He’s shown good hands during training camp, but this was a rough day.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 16, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

John Elway ain't walking through that door.

Posted by: dallasinthedmv | August 16, 2010 1:21 PM |

Even Dallas fans aint as stupid as this guy. Well okay, actually they are,but I smell a ruse.

RI has forced an intern to write pro-cowpie dreck to boost the numbers here on the board.

PS: It's working.

Posted by: TheCork | August 16, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Whatever pete. It's still McNabb with 9 playoff wins. Romo with 1.

Just give it up. You aren't convincing anyone. McNabb has done far more than Tony Romo.

Posted by: rachel216 | August 16, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

*Receiver Devin Thomas is still working with the third-team offense, but drew praise from Shanahan.

“His attitude has been great,” Shanahan said. “He’s gone out there and worked and tried to improve every day. I like his attitude and his work ethic.”

Posted by: TWISI | August 16, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse


I imagine Shanny will have him listed 3rd string for a while. He really needs to get pushed to be more consistent.

Posted by: p1funk | August 16, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Personally I see Carter in danger of getting cut...

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | August 16, 2010 4:09 PM

Ray, "Danger" is exactly the wrong word to use here. There is nothing he would like more than to get cut. There would be a lot of competition for him and he'd get a big payday. Getting cut would, for him, be the equivalent of winning at power ball.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 16, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

To me Kelly is a lot like Colt, neither will have any impact on the NFL.

Posted by: chrislarry | August 16, 2010 12:11 PM

Kelly chances to make it in this league >> Colt Chances

Posted by: 4thFloor | August 16, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Now if you want to "own" me, then make a bid...I could be had for the right price.

Posted by: p1funk | August 16, 2010 4:13 PM

He's asking for a ham sandwich.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 16, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

can they please just cut thomas and kelly and get on with it

Posted by: BMACattack | August 16, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse


Why cut Thomas?

He can bring something on special teams, and he's still a project as a receiver.

We don't need to start him, and I don't think we will when the season begins, but he can certainly stay in the mix, hit a big play for us a-la Chris Henry w/ Bengals (RIP) in some packages and work on becoming a consistent every-down starter in the meantime.

Posted by: p1funk | August 16, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Getting cut would, for him, be the equivalent of winning at power ball.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 16, 2010 4:16 PM

He clearly can't play there, what else would you do with him?

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | August 16, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

If those dudes were broke, they'd make 4th floor look palatable.

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Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 16, 2010 12:53 PM

This is the reason they need to reinstate Prop 8....The faggys are going nuts...

Posted by: 4thFloor | August 16, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

If anything DT has shown he can be a good blocking wide receiver. If a RB is going to break a long one that's important.

DT is not going anywhere.

Posted by: iH8dallas | August 16, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: psps23 | August 16, 2010 3:38 PM

You, I, and everyone else except Al Davis knows this is not going to happen.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | August 16, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Now if you want to "own" me, then make a bid...I could be had for the right price.

Posted by: p1funk | August 16, 2010 4:13 PM

He's asking for a ham sandwich.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 16, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse


Oh...it's you. Of course.

Hi there, again.

Sorry to keep you waiting so long by your keyboard, but I'm back now.

Posted by: p1funk | August 16, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse


You aren't convincing anyone. McNabb has done far more than Tony Romo.

Posted by: rachel216 | August 16, 2010 4:15 PM

he choked three straight against dallas. recent history, rach. something about that star...

Posted by: 10peterbilt | August 16, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Ray--I'd work out a trade. He would get more money from the new team and we'd get a low-round pick. It has to be negotiated because he has a no-trade clause, but at least we could keep him out of the NFC East.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 16, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

You aren't convincing anyone. McNabb has done far more than tony romo.

Posted by: rachel216 | August 16, 2010 4:15 PM

he choked three straight against dallas. recent history, rach. something about that star...

Posted by: 10peterbilt

Hey, wait a minute, romo gave us the funniest NFL moment of all time. That's gotta count too!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yh1DyvTuDA&feature=related

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 16, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Sorry to keep you waiting so long by your keyboard, but I'm back now.

Posted by: p1funk | August 16, 2010 4:28 PM

No problem. When you're not here it seems just the same as when you are here.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 16, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

donovan mcscabb has stunk it up against dallas recently (you know, the team you have to play 9/12/10), so don't you dare act surprised and cry after you lose. i'd say dallas' three straight beatdowns of mcfatt is the definition of dominance. nice try, sparky.

Posted by: 10peterbilt | August 16, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse
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So sweeping the season series and a playoff game qualifies as 'dominance' now?

Show of hands: How many people expected the Ickles to be any good last year after they purged their O line, Defense, and their HoF D Coordinator died?

See, this is what happens when you try to manufacture happiness by setting your expectations so low Gary Coleman stars as the Incredible Hulk of your dreams.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | August 16, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

10peterbilt - but it's not like Dallas has been to an NFC championship lately..

You can talk about McNabb choking but truth is, What have Romo and Dallas done besides win one playoff game lately?

Had Romo went onto lead the Cowboys farther, then you'd have an argument... but Romo didn't... so there's nothing to talk about. Move along..

Posted by: rachel216 | August 16, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse


This was pretty funny too. McNabb's a lot of things but smart ain't one of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gjhs2HpOz0

Posted by: ahwyatt | August 16, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Sweeping the season series and a playoff game qualifies as 'dominance' now

Posted by: mattsoundworld

Fixed it for ya.

Posted by: SMACK1 | August 16, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Chew on this: Super Bowl victories since 1990

Cowboys 3
Redskins 1

Are there any Redskins fans still alive who actually witnessed a Redskins championship? BTW, there is no bigger choker in the history of the NFL than Donovan McNabb. The Eagles should have had at least three rings by now if not for McNabb throwing up in his mouth and on his teammates in big games. Sorry to rain on your sorry-a$$, lame parade after one meaningless preseason game, morons. Pretty low expectations but I shouldn't be surprised.

Shanahan = Spurrier v2.0

John Elway ain't walking through that door.
Posted by: dallasinthedmv | August 16, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse
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Are you serious?

First, if anyone was not around when the Redskins won their last SB, then no one is certainly around for when Dallas won their last SB. Being that it's a 3 years difference.

You girls fans trip me out. You act like your team has been in SB for the past ten years or something. And if you want to talk about the biggest choker, look no further than your own QB, Romo.

Wade = Chan Gailey + Dave Campo 2.0

Aikman walking through door 'cause Lavar retired him.

Posted by: clark202 | August 16, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

This was pretty funny too. McNabb's a lot of things but smart ain't one of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gjhs2HpOz0


Posted by: ahwyatt

nice try at a comeback. But let's be honest, that doesn't compare to watching Romo singlehandily lose the game for his team against seattle. Keep on trying Cowboys fans! we'll be here as long as you are.

Posted by: rachel216 | August 16, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

beep-beep

"You, on the other hand, post the very same "TRAINING CAMP DIARY" eight or nine times a day. And, you know what? It never seems to get better regardless of how many times you post it."

Ouch, that hurt to read.


Posted by: MistaMoe | August 16, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

rachel, et al -- trust me on this. Know enough cowjerk fans to know -- nothing eats at them more than romo choking away the playoff game vs Seattle. Its painful because everyone laughs at them. And its painful because they have doubts about romo -- they know he chokes.

So just roll with the romo video ... you don't need anything else. No other rebuttals or responses. Just that one clip. They keep trying to provoke an argument to change the subject. Don't go there. You'll always win if you bring it right back to this one clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yh1DyvTuDA&feature=related

Since this is the internet, you won't see the cowjerk fans sucking their thumbs or crying themselves to bed ... but rest assured, that's what is going on.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 16, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

"My fellow Skins fans there is room for cautious optimism and I stress cautious."

Agreed.

I'll become more optimistic should the 1st team offense/defense put up good shows against the ravens/jets 1st teamers over the next two weeks.

If we can keep even with them, we can duel with anybody on any given Sunday.

And for right now, a competitive, disciplined team is all we really want this year out of Team Shanallen.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 16, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth went bowling with the team but had to rest after the 3rd frame because he got tired.

Posted by: regxjin | August 16, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth went bowling with the team but had to rest after the 3rd frame because of fatigue..

Posted by: regxjin | August 16, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Willie Parker Picked a Peck of Pickled Peppers

beep beep

Posted by: beep-beep | August 16, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth went bowling with the team but had to rest after the 3rd frame because of fatigue..

Posted by: regxjin | August 16, 2010 5:08 PM

Hey Dipstick, those jokes were funny BEFORE he passed the conditioning test, bought in on the new scheme and kicked arse in the Buffalo game. Now they're just sort of dumb and mean. Try to keep up.

Posted by: edvar | August 16, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

The last time Dallas did something meaningful in the playoffs...hmmmm? Good one. Hmmmm...LAST YEAR!!!! Is that recent enough for you? Any playoff win is meaningful. Just ask Zorn and Cerrato. They'd both still be in Washington if they had managed a playoff victory last year and you know it. Dallas has won more recently than Washington and is positioned well this year to win it all. We beat McNabb (your Savior) three straight times last year. Stop hating!!!

Posted by: dallasinthedmv | August 16, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

You just officially became the saddest, most stupid cowboy fan Ive ever heard of.....youre team has won 5 SB's, although none in 14 years, and you just got an online chubby over a simple divisional round win???? That's what Houston wants to do, that's what Buffalo dreams of. Not the big bad cowboys.
Playoff wins are big.....when you dont have trophies on the shelf. You just made yourself infinitely more idiotic than previously assumed. Please keep talking and saying more dumb sh*t, you are now amusing me.

Posted by: DEskinzfan | August 16, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

The last time McNabb saw the Cowboys he was playing his air guitar and laughing. At the end, Philly wasn't laughing - the Cowboys were. I think that was the breaking point for Philly.

Shanahan has the expereince sorely needed by the organization but it will take years to sort out the rot Snyder laid on for the last decade.

Posted by: i155133 | August 17, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

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