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Joey Galloway watches, Anthony Armstrong catches

Thirty-eight year old receiver Joey Galloway has started two preseason games. But he's had zero catches and has only been targeted once. There's a reason for that, says Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan

"I've watched Joey catch a lot of balls in games throughout his career," Shanahan said. "He's come in here and did a great job in OTAs. We've had him obviously in camp here, evaluate him a lot. Pretty good shape.

"I wanted to get some of the guys that I really haven't been able to evaluate, some of the younger guys and see how they do in game situations. I think I know how Joey has handled himself for a lot of years, playing in games."

No other receiver has taken advantage of that opportunity more than Anthony Armstrong. He enters Friday's game against the Jets listed as a second-stringer on the depth chart, ahead of Redskins' draft picks Devin Thomas and the injured Malcolm Kelly. Armstrong leads all receivers with six preseason catches for 91 yards. He has one of the team's three receiving touchdowns thus far.

"I just want to keep on going, keep making plays, be a spark for offense," Armstrong said.

A product of West Texas A&M, the 27-year-old Armstrong began his career in the Intense Football League and then graduated to the Arena Football League. He finally signed with the Miami Dolphins as a free agent in 2008. They waived him twice in a one-year period and Armstrong signed with Washington last year. He spent the final 11 weeks of the season on the Redskins' practice squad, and that's how Shanahan first noticed him on film.

"When I came in here and took the job, I said, 'Who is that guy?'" said Shanahan. "He showed a lot of speed. Obviously, he was released somewhere along the line. We brought him in. You can see he's got speed. He's been making some plays."

The Redskins signed Armstrong on January 5, one day before Shanahan was formally announced as head coach.

While he still hasn't seen any regular season NFL action, he appears to be inching his way closer. With so few other receiving stepping forward, Armstrong is going to make it difficult for coaches to pass on him.

By Rick Maese  |  August 25, 2010; 6:00 AM ET
Categories:  preseason games , wide receivers  
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"I wanted to get some of the guys that I really haven't been able to evaluate, some of the younger guys and see how they do in game situations."

By Rick Maese | August 25, 2010; 6:00 AM ET

The FIRST one he'd like to see catch a ball is Kelly. If he ever sees Kelly catch a ball in a game, it won't be in a Redskins uniform.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 25, 2010 6:21 AM | Report abuse

It is ironic that our WR corps has been regarded as weak and yet two of the players I look forward to seeing most in regular season are Anthony Armstrong and Brandon Banks. Gonna be hard to keep some of the other guys like Roydell Williams and Terrence Austin off the roster, though.

Posted by: Keiser | August 25, 2010 6:29 AM | Report abuse

Could LaRon's shirt on the sports homepage be any gayer? (not that there's anything wrong with that)

Wow. A cutoff tank top with fringe?

Posted by: Original_etrod | August 25, 2010 7:17 AM | Report abuse

A cutoff tank top with fringe?

Posted by: Original_etrod | August 25, 2010 7:17 AM

It's on loan from Clinton Portis.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 25, 2010 7:21 AM | Report abuse

Alls I know is devin thomas has continued to be a disappointment throughout preseason. He has the physical characteristics of a Burress, and I know it took some receivers a while to develop in the NFL (Terell Owens), but we haven't seen sh't from this dude in preseason and he wasn't the least bit impressive last year.

It's like DT's hands are so bad that he'd hurt himself playing patty cake and he doesn't seem to understand that the point of running routes is to create separation and have a nose for the ball to get the reception. I mean for god sakes can you ever imagine marvin harrison being anywhere near as successful as he was without these characteristics? I guess that is what you get when you draft players based exclusively on the physical attributes that you desire and not their ability to understand when to cut off routes and what it takes to beat a defender.
Who is to blame, snyderatto of course.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | August 25, 2010 7:22 AM | Report abuse

McNabb is gonna love playing here. He looked real good against the ravens; it's just nice to have a QB who we don't have to worry about constantly. Now he is telling the media about how the iggles treated him- fans and the organization.

http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/08/24/mcnabb-eagles-never-backed-me/?module=HP_spotlight

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | August 25, 2010 7:30 AM | Report abuse

Could LaRon's shirt on the sports homepage be any gayer? (not that there's anything wrong with that)

Wow. A cutoff tank top with fringe?

Posted by: Original_etrod | August 25, 2010 7:17 AM | Report abuse


I remember reading somewhere that he also rocks nipple rings...

...wierd.

Posted by: p1funk | August 25, 2010 7:30 AM | Report abuse

I remember reading somewhere that he also rocks nipple rings...

...wierd.

Posted by: p1funk | August 25, 2010 7:30 AM

You shouldn't say this where he can hear you. He'll give you a late hit out of bounds.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 25, 2010 7:36 AM | Report abuse

"Joey Galloway watches, Anthony Armstrong catches"

Prediction time. Here's the wr depth chart as of 9/12/10:

S Moss
J Galloway
A Armstrong
D Thomas
M Kelly
B Banks


practice squad: T Austin


The decision to keep MK is based singualry on his draft pedigree and body size.

IMO, dude should play the entire cards' game to justify his space on the roster.

However, if the hammie becomes a lingering issue, you'd hope the guy is sent packing.

Finally, I'm wondering if the team will snag some other team's camp cut wr.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 25, 2010 7:42 AM | Report abuse

Alls I know is devin thomas has continued to be a disappointment throughout preseason. He has the physical characteristics of a Burress, and I know it took some receivers a while to develop in the NFL (Terell Owens), but we haven't seen sh't from this dude in preseason and he wasn't the least bit impressive last year.

It's like DT's hands are so bad that he'd hurt himself playing patty cake and he doesn't seem to understand that the point of running routes is to create separation and have a nose for the ball to get the reception. I mean for god sakes can you ever imagine marvin harrison being anywhere near as successful as he was without these characteristics? I guess that is what you get when you draft players based exclusively on the physical attributes that you desire and not their ability to understand when to cut off routes and what it takes to beat a defender.
Who is to blame, snyderatto of course.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | August 25, 2010 7:22 AM
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Well, other teams shied away from DT because he was a one year wonder in college. I think most of his errors are because of a lack of focus, and after three years if he is not getting it, he probably never will. It sounds like there are teams interested in trading for him so maybe the Redskins would be wise to take a low round pick and run. My personal point of view on play at wide receiver is you want consistent guys who can come through when the chips are down. DT hasn't shown that he can be that guy. If I had to come down to an opening day roster, I'd have Moss, Galloway (because the Redskins are stuck on him, not me), Williams, Austin, Banks and Armstrong.

Here's another idea abotu using DT: move him to free safety. The guy is very physical. He has great speed. The Bills transitioned George Wilson from receiver to safety and that's worked out pretty well, so it is not like there isn't a precedent.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 25, 2010 7:42 AM | Report abuse

It could only be gayer if it were a Cowboys shirt.

Posted by: Original_etrod | August 25, 2010 7:44 AM | Report abuse

You shouldn't say this where he can hear you. He'll give you a late hit out of bounds.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 25, 2010 7:36 AM | Report abuse


That's why I thrive on the cowardly anonymity of the comments section.

You think I'd say ANY of the things that I've written about Albert Haynesworth to his face?

...yeah, right.

Posted by: p1funk | August 25, 2010 7:45 AM | Report abuse

Anthony Armstrong reminds me of Ricky Sanders when we picked him up from the old USFL. Sanders had speed and was a good third wide receiver. Although, if Armstrong keeps playing the way he is, he definitely could start opposite Santana Moss. Although, I will admit his short stature would worry me, especially inside the red zone.

Posted by: stwasm | August 25, 2010 7:46 AM | Report abuse

MistaMoe,
If the Redskins put T. Austin on the developmental roster he would be gone in a week or the Redskins would be stuck with bringing him up and dropping another player off the roster. I, for one, am for sticking with the young bunch of Austin, Banks, and Armstrong. MK and DT are just going to continue to be the source of unfulfilled potential and much anxiety, so let's move on, shall we?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 25, 2010 7:47 AM | Report abuse

Here's another idea abotu using DT: move him to free safety. The guy is very physical. He has great speed. The Bills transitioned George Wilson from receiver to safety and that's worked out pretty well, so it is not like there isn't a precedent.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 25, 2010 7:42 AM | Report abuse


Bro, I must say that is an atrocious idea. Free safeties need to be smart and understand coverages...if you thought LaRon Landry looked bad back there...

Posted by: p1funk | August 25, 2010 7:49 AM | Report abuse

"You think I'd say ANY of the things that I've written about Albert Haynesworth to his face?"


I would.

I'd have mrsmoe hiding off to the side with a camera phone so she could tape the whole episode.

And once he punched me dead in my face, I'd stand up, and shout:

"Where my lawyer at?"

"'Cuz I'm 'bout to get paid!!!"

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 25, 2010 7:49 AM | Report abuse

redskinhead

"MK and DT are just going to continue to be the source of unfulfilled potential and much anxiety, so let's move on, shall we?"

Actually, we are in agreement.

I just think the Shanahans look at DT and MK and think, like all coach's do, that they can fix them.

If this were baseball, a team would package the both of them in a trade and get something back in return of value.

Alas, this ain't baseball.

And I bet both of those guys will be redskins come the cowboys' game.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 25, 2010 7:55 AM | Report abuse

Anthony Armstrong reminds me of Ricky Sanders when we picked him up from the old USFL. Sanders had speed and was a good third wide receiver. Although, if Armstrong keeps playing the way he is, he definitely could start opposite Santana Moss. Although, I will admit his short stature would worry me, especially inside the red zone.

Posted by: stwasm | August 25, 2010 7:46 AM
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Rickey Sanders = Anthony Armstrong. Hmmm. I hadn't thought about that but I think that's a good comparison. I heard one article compare him to Eddie Royal but I like your comparison better.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 25, 2010 7:55 AM | Report abuse

Who is to blame, snyderatto of course.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | August 25, 2010 7:22 AM


The prospective talent of the WRs in that draft was really poor.

I know there has been D.Jackson that has emerged; but you had to be willing to take a risk on a speed-but-no-size type of receiver. Same with Eddie Royal who looks like he's hit a serious wall.

When you have alot of prospective talent, it pushes more talented guys further down the draft board - much like this past draft with the Olinemen. People got high-round talent in later rounds.

But when you don't have alot of prospective talent, the opposite seems to occur. The so-so guys get pushed up into higher rounds if teams are looking for position needs.

Of course, this was the draft that Snerratto decided to spend high-draft picks on a bunch of receivers...the draft where the best prospects were a one-year wonder and a trainer's table all-star.

Posted by: p1funk | August 25, 2010 7:57 AM | Report abuse

And once he punched me dead in my face, I'd stand up, and shout:

"Where my lawyer at?"

"'Cuz I'm 'bout to get paid!!!"

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 25, 2010 7:49 AM | Report abuse


You mean 10 minutes later, when mrsmoe found someone to bring smelling salts to revive you, you'd wobble to your knees and try to say "Where my lawyer at?", except the words would choke in your throat as you spit out a mouthful of chicklets.

...but I understand your point.

Remember...you're like 8th in line to sue Fat Al.

Posted by: p1funk | August 25, 2010 8:00 AM | Report abuse

Here's another idea abotu using DT: move him to free safety. The guy is very physical. He has great speed. The Bills transitioned George Wilson from receiver to safety and that's worked out pretty well, so it is not like there isn't a precedent.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 25, 2010 7:42 AM | Report abuse

Bro, I must say that is an atrocious idea. Free safeties need to be smart and understand coverages...if you thought LaRon Landry looked bad back there...

Posted by: p1funk | August 25, 2010 7:49 AM
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You're probably right. It is just a shame to see a guy with so many physical gifts turn out to be such a disappointment.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 25, 2010 8:01 AM | Report abuse

Here's another idea abotu using DT: move him to free safety

This

Is

AWESOME!!!!

If we can now trade for Marcus Mason...Championship......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 25, 2010 8:01 AM | Report abuse

Here's another idea abotu using DT: move him to free safety

This

Is

AWESOME!!!!

If we can now trade for Marcus Mason...Championship......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 25, 2010 8:01 AM
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Your unbridled sarcasm cuts me to my very core.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 25, 2010 8:03 AM | Report abuse

Your unbridled sarcasm cuts me to my very core.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 25, 2010 8:03 AM | Report abuse


Bean's sarcasm is biting.

I, at least, had the decency to just shoot straight and tell you flat-out it was an atrocious idea.

Posted by: p1funk | August 25, 2010 8:05 AM | Report abuse

Doncha just love this, a story of hunger and desire:

"I just want to keep on going, keep making plays, be a spark for offense," Armstrong said....A product of West Texas A&M, the 27-year-old Armstrong began his career in the Intense Football League and then graduated to the Arena Football League."

Looks like the redskins may have finally found a good, young, solid receiver.

And we didn't have to draft high or trade for him.

Boy, we so be so lucky more often!!

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 25, 2010 8:05 AM | Report abuse

Here's another idea abotu using DT: move him to free safety

This

Is

AWESOME!!!!

If we can now trade for Marcus Mason...Championship......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 25, 2010 8:01 AM
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Your unbridled sarcasm cuts me to my very core.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 25, 2010 8:03 AM
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No, wait a minute. It was just gas. I'm okay.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 25, 2010 8:05 AM | Report abuse

Your unbridled sarcasm cuts me to my very core.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 25, 2010 8:03 AM | Report abuse


Bean's sarcasm is biting.

I, at least, had the decency to just shoot straight and tell you flat-out it was an atrocious idea.

Posted by: p1funk | August 25, 2010 8:05 AM
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Yeah, Bean bites. I get that.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 25, 2010 8:07 AM | Report abuse

p1funk

"Remember...you're like 8th in line to sue Fat Al."


Whether it be 1st or last, anyone waiting for any kind of pleasure will tell you that it's better to be in line than not.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 25, 2010 8:09 AM | Report abuse

Here's a question for everyone before I pop off for my next meeting:

Who are the keepers on the offensive line? We've seen the running back and receiver picture come a little more in focus, but it seems like there's no surprise on the OL like an Armstrong or Torain.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 25, 2010 8:10 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 25, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

The only keepers on the Oline are the starters. The recent draft picks do not look anywhere near ready to contribute. The guys that looked bad last year look bad this year. Apparently it wasn't coaching but player selection. Shocker!

I will temper my enthusiasm on Armstrong and Banks until they do something consistently in the regular season. DT being nearly invisible does not bode well for his 3rd year breakout.

McNabb not playing this week is good and bad. Good in that the Jets like to bring pressure and not exposing him to that is a good thing. It is bad in that his timing is clearly off with his receivers. He was throwing slightly behind them and could use the extra game speed reps to get in sync.

As long as they can avoid injuries on the Oline and to McNabb I think they can go 8-8.

Posted by: srobert1117 | August 25, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: alex35332 | August 25, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

redskinhead

"MK and DT are just going to continue to be the source of unfulfilled potential and much anxiety, so let's move on, shall we?"

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I can't disagree more about DT. He's been getting excellent separation for DBs during the preseason. His routes have improved exponentially, and he's more diverse routes. I'll grant that he's got to improve more with his concentration, but I don't think that warrants his release. Again if DT can give you production similar to a younger Devry Henderson he'll be a benefit to this team.

Posted by: TWISI | August 25, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

The only keepers on the Oline are the starters. The recent draft picks do not look anywhere near ready to contribute. The guys that looked bad last year look bad this year. Apparently it wasn't coaching but player selection. Shocker!

Posted by: srobert1117 | August 25, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse


I heard on sports radio the other day from one of the Skins beat guys that Chad Rhinehart is playing behind Will Montgomery at guard...and that Will Montgomery does not even consider himself a guard but a center.

...not a good sign.

Posted by: p1funk | August 25, 2010 8:46 AM | Report abuse

18 game season?

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/25/sports/football/25owners.html?_r=1&ref=sports

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 25, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

I am for an 18 game season.

Also would like to see the NFL makes a deal with 32 College or other stadiums for pre-season games to be played on neutral turf.

For the Redskins I'd love to see 1 at RFK or the Skins Ravens play in Annapolis.

They would also need to expand the rosters to 75-85 players. I would suggest either that or go with a Minor league system.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 25, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

Not a Warren Sapp fan, but I totally agree with him in this article:

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/08/25/warren-sapp-sounds-off-on-albert-haynesworth-darrelle-revis/

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 25, 2010 8:51 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: TWISI | August 25, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse


Yeah, I don't see the need for dumping DT. We need to get over the fact that he's not an "instant impact" starter.

But he brings something on special teams, and if he can show improvement, then he's worth keeping around as a guy to use in multiple WR sets who can pop a big one, take a bubble screen, etc.

Posted by: p1funk | August 25, 2010 8:52 AM | Report abuse

Prediction time. Here's the wr depth chart as of 9/12/10:

S Moss
J Galloway
A Armstrong
D Thomas
M Kelly
B Banks


practice squad: T Austin


The decision to keep MK is based singualry on his draft pedigree and body size.

IMO, dude should play the entire cards' game to justify his space on the roster.

However, if the hammie becomes a lingering issue, you'd hope the guy is sent packing.

Finally, I'm wondering if the team will snag some other team's camp cut wr.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 25, 2010 7:42 AM | Report abuse

I like it, except I'd swap out Austin for Kelly. Is the gap in potential that wide to justify the huge gamble of keeping a guy that some teams had removed from their draft board altogether due to injury concerns? I think not. Unless he is able to dress and beast out against Arizona's starters next week (and not pull another muscle in the process), it's time to cut our losses on MK, IMO. Sad, because in two years he'll probably be a decent #2 WR. But how long can we wait when young, hungry, speedy, HEALTHY guys are making plays?

HTTR

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | August 25, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

So Armstrong is a Vinny recruit?

Posted by: WorstSeat | August 25, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Also would like to see the NFL makes a deal with 32 College or other stadiums for pre-season games to be played on neutral turf.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 25, 2010 8:50 AM

Then the teams couldn't force the season ticket holders to buy tix. Aside from that, I can't understand the point of "neutral turf." There's a big home field advantage in pre-season games that don't count for anything?

Posted by: beep-beep | August 25, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Not a Warren Sapp fan, but I totally agree with him in this article:

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/08/25/warren-sapp-sounds-off-on-albert-haynesworth-darrelle-revis/

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 25, 2010 8:51 AM | Report abuse


Sapp is right on when he says NFL players are getting a king's ransom to play a kid's game.

But seriously, he's a joke and a wind-bag. All this big "contract signed, contract honored" talk from the same guy who pissed and moaned in the media about the NFL being like a plantation with slaves.

Please.

Posted by: p1funk | August 25, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse

...I'll grant that he's got to improve more with his concentration...

Posted by: TWISI | August 25, 2010 8:44 AM
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That's precisely my point. We don't need to discuss the other stuff. We've been waiting for three years for him to improve his concentration, his focus, his ability to keep his head in the game. Yet, he still drops passes in crucial moments and he does stupid things like jumping to catch a kickoff. Coaches can blow up their careers waiting for a guy like DT to put it all together. Maybe he will, but do you invest more time in this guy while there are other guys on the roster who are showing potential and are catching everything thrown at them in games? DT reminds me a lot of Koren Robinson, minus the off the field issues. Robinson had one great season and then a lot of other seasons "with potential". Everyone kept calling for a breakout season and the guy routinely disappointed.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 25, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

Sapp is right on when he says NFL players are getting a king's ransom to play a kid's game.

Posted by: p1funk | August 25, 2010 8:59 AM

If NFL football were "a kid's game" then the rosters would have a bunch of 12 year olds. Now, a lot of the players have the maturity of 12 year olds, but that's about the only sense in which NFL football is "a kid's game."

Posted by: beep-beep | August 25, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse


Not a Warren Sapp fan, but I totally agree with him in this article:

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/08/25/warren-sapp-sounds-off-on-albert-haynesworth-darrelle-revis/

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 25, 2010 8:51 AM | Report abuse


Sapp is right on when he says NFL players are getting a king's ransom to play a kid's game.

But seriously, he's a joke and a wind-bag. All this big "contract signed, contract honored" talk from the same guy who pissed and moaned in the media about the NFL being like a plantation with slaves.

Please.

Posted by: p1funk | August 25, 2010 8:59 AM
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Like I said, not a fan, but I think a lot of players feel the same way as Sapp does. AH has made things worse for the NFLPA in negotiations with the owners for a new contract. The owners can say, "This is why we want to cap salaries. The team spends a mint on this guy and then he doesn't want to play the position the team wants him to play." I think most of the players are smart enough to recognize the fact that Haynesworth has damaged their position in the negotiations. A guy like London Fletcher, who I respect immensely, understands this to the nth degree. He's trying to get this whole thing behind the team and out of the spotlight. Then, AH has to go and drag another issue through the media. AH is proof positive that the NFLPA is a clean union. If it weren't, someone would have already rubbed Haynesworth out.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 25, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

redskinhead

"Who are the keepers on the offensive line?"

Excellent question.

An injury to the starting offensive line is a bigger problem than if the 4th receiver has a hamstring injury or if a nose/defensive tackle has some mysterious disease.

I've read that E Williams has looked very good.

Beyond that, like yiou, I've heard nothing.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 25, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse

"he does stupid things like jumping to catch a kickoff"

during preseason....then you conveniently ignore that the next game he had a 36 yard return....I'm just saying...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 25, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

Then the teams couldn't force the season ticket holders to buy tix. Aside from that, I can't understand the point of "neutral turf." There's a big home field advantage in pre-season games that don't count for anything?

Posted by: beep-beep | August 25, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse


What do you think teams get to for capacity in a pre-season game? 50%?

I say why not put games in cities that don't normally get an NFL game, and you will have a higher turnout.

Get money from food services for 35,000 fans, or sell 80,000 season tickets to see the Cowboys vs the Texans at Univ. of Texas Stadium, and get a ton of food sales in there as well.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 25, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

So Armstrong is a Vinny recruit?

Posted by: WorstSeat | August 25, 2010 8:59 AM

Bruce Allen took over for Vinny mid-season.

Posted by: saltine182 | August 25, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

@RedSkinHead: "does stupid things like jumping to catch a kickoff"

Redskinhead, from what I observed from that play. Devin Thomas was too hyped, and unfortunately was over running the kickoff. If he hadn't jumped and got his hand on the ball. The ball would have gone over his head, and with his momentum carrying him forward. There was a pretty good chance that Buffalo would have recovered the ball in the end zone for a TD. So, from my perspective, Devin Thomas saved the Redskins a possesion as well as keeping the Bill's from scoring.

Posted by: dbailey211 | August 25, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

I'm on the fence about DT. He's done some things very well this pre-season.. and other things horribly.

I guess I wouldn't be entirely against keeping him, if they decide to do so. But if (when?) he starts costing us wins dropping the ball, well, I'd be kicking myself.

Oh & Here's the GQ Article:
http://www.gq.com/sports/guides/201009/nfl-preview-fall-2010-gq/donovan-mcnabb-extended-interview-eagles-redskins-qb

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 25, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

What do you think teams get to for capacity in a pre-season game? 50%?

I say why not put games in cities that don't normally get an NFL game, and you will have a higher turnout.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 25, 2010 9:09 AM

Alex -- The Redskins sell every seat in the stadium for preseason games. If you're a season ticket holder, you gotta buy them. Turnout's low, but it would be even lower in a "neutral city." How many people go to the Hall of Fame Game?

Posted by: beep-beep | August 25, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse


The only keepers on the Oline are the starters. The recent draft picks do not look anywhere near ready to contribute. The guys that looked bad last year look bad this year. Apparently it wasn't coaching but player selection. Shocker!

Posted by: srobert1117 | August 25, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse


I heard on sports radio the other day from one of the Skins beat guys that Chad Rhinehart is playing behind Will Montgomery at guard...and that Will Montgomery does not even consider himself a guard but a center.

...not a good sign.

Posted by: p1funk | August 25, 2010 8:46 AM
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That kind of stuff - centers not making the proper protection adjustments at the line, Will Robinson getting beaten by a spin move, Rinehart getting run over by a nose tackle, Williams getting beat because he dropped his head and the defensive lineman got over the top - that makes me question where the team is with depth on the o-line. Apparently Allen isn't ready to push the panic button quite yet, like he did with fullback, long snapper and free safety, but I think it is worrisome. A guy like Rinehart should be pushing for a starting job, not playing second fiddle to someone like Montgomery who has bounced around the league a little bit. I don't know why Robinson is even backing up at left tackle. He's been cut from two teams as well and he is small for a left tackle. Capers just doesn't have the strength, although I think they'll keep him on the regular roster to serve in the jumbo package as a sixth offensive lineman. Maybe he is a keeper, although a raw one. I know nothing about Cook and Lichtenstieger except they haven't played that much. I assume that means they are at the bottom of the barrel. Maybe Edwin Williams is the guy. I have heard he is a strong man that can go head to head with nose tackles, but he still makes mental errors and he still can't make all of the defensive reads at the line.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 25, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

How many people go to the Hall of Fame Game?

Posted by: beep-beep | August 25, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

25,000, every time I see it the place is packed, it fills to stadium capacity.

The other thing is marketability of having neutral sight games.

You don't think that people in LA would fill a stadium to watch the 49ers play the Charger?

120,000 Pennsylvanians going to Beaver stadium for a Steelers Eagles game?

Posted by: alex35332 | August 25, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

"[Devin Thomas] has the physical characteristics of a Burress..."

Hmmm? He's 3 inches shorter, probably 20 lbs lighter, and quite a bit faster. Plax is more of a Malcolm Kelly-type -- in shape, at least.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 25, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

"he does stupid things like jumping to catch a kickoff"

during preseason....then you conveniently ignore that the next game he had a 36 yard return....I'm just saying...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 25, 2010 9:09 AM
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I won't deny he makes plays. Not at all. He makes plays. Sometimes. Sometimes he doesn't. It seems like when you need him to make a play, he doesn't. Throughout training camp it was the same way. One day DT would make a fantastic leaping catch over a defender, but then the next day he would drop a pass that hit him right in the numbers. I think for a coach, trying to coach a player to improve his concentration is one of the hardest things to do. It might be a subject for debate as to IF you can coach concentration and focus at all. Maybe in a league filled with superior athletes, concentration and focus are the things that separate good from great.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 25, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

I've read that E Williams has looked very good.

Beyond that, like yiou, I've heard nothing.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 25, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Good point guys...I still think the #4-6 WRs is a huge decision that shouldn't be downplayed, but depth along the line is vital. Would love to see the young Terps step up, but heck I'd take a Dukie at this point if he can block.

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | August 25, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

I am against the 18 game season and I hope the players will resist, if they value life after the NFL, which isn't always clear. 14 games was enough. Plus, adding more games only enables the idiots that want to turn pro football into an arena league game.

Posted by: Pepper5 | August 25, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

RedSkinHead

We don't need to discuss the other stuff.

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You have to include this because he's improved as a WR this year. He's being better coached and DT is responding to it. He's running better routes, he's running more routes. As a coach I think you can work with that. DT is young in terms of a WR. He's had three years (if you include college) of competing against high level competition.

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Maybe he will, but do you invest more time in this guy while there are other guys on the roster who are showing potential and are catching everything thrown at them in games?

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Let's slow down with the exuberant praise of Banks and Austin. They ar eboth great camp stories, but they are both competing for the same job here..return specialist. Shanny keeps saying that the WRs have to be complete players..including blocking. Both have been playing against 3rd string DBs both Austin and Banks haven't distinguished themselves.

Posted by: TWISI | August 25, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

However, if the hammie becomes a lingering issue, you'd hope the guy is sent packing.


Posted by: MistaMoe | August 25, 2010 7:42 AM

If it did become lingering, he would be IR'd and they'll figure it out next year......

Posted by: 4thFloor | August 25, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

IMO Banks has been impressive both as a returner and receiver. I think he's earned a spot on the roster....

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 25, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

"You think I'd say ANY of the things that I've written about Albert Haynesworth to his face?"


I would.

I'd have mrsmoe hiding off to the side with a camera phone so she could tape the whole episode.

And once he punched me dead in my face, I'd stand up, and shout:

"Where my lawyer at?"

"'Cuz I'm 'bout to get paid!!!"

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 25, 2010 7:49 AM

No chance he hits you. Dude is a coward and all anyone would have to do is run away. AH will tire within 13 seconds. Or fake some disorder and complain to the press that you made him chase you after 3:00 on a friday cause he is a 9 year pro!

Posted by: Mike4169 | August 25, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 25, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

I am against the 18 game season and I hope the players will resist, if they value life after the NFL, which isn't always clear. 14 games was enough. Plus, adding more games only enables the idiots that want to turn pro football into an arena league game.

Posted by: Pepper5 | August 25, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

I don't know if thats necessarily true that it would reduce the run games. You may need more RB's on a roster. And though I am not sure of this, I think you probably see more o-linemen injured on the pass play then the run play.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 25, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

18 game season?

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/25/sports/football/25owners.html?_r=1&ref=sports

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 25, 2010 8:39 AM

No. Will dilute the tension of each game. It'll get watered down real fast....

18 games = All downhill after the climax

Posted by: 4thFloor | August 25, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

F Vinny C

http://www.csnwashington.com/08/24/10/Smith-Cerratos-Recall-Ridiculous/landing.html?blockID=296766&feedID=6355

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 25, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Never would of guessed that Sherman Smith would be driving a Grayhound over Vinny. But that said, Vinny is laying in the middle of the bus terminal parking lot.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 25, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Devin Thomas is about as close as you can get to being a lock for the roster. Only Santana Moss has a more secured spot at the WR position.

Posted by: psps23 | August 25, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

I like it, except I'd swap out Austin for Kelly. Is the gap in potential that wide to justify the huge gamble of keeping a guy that some teams had removed from their draft board altogether due to injury concerns? I think not. Unless he is able to dress and beast out against Arizona's starters next week (and not pull another muscle in the process), it's time to cut our losses on MK, IMO. Sad, because in two years he'll probably be a decent #2 WR. But how long can we wait when young, hungry, speedy, HEALTHY guys are making plays?

HTTR

Posted by: Notorious_LMG

Is Kelly eligible for the practice squad??

Posted by: rachel216 | August 25, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

p1funk

"...one of the Skins beat guys that Chad Rhinehart is playing behind Will Montgomery at guard...and that Will Montgomery does not even consider himself a guard but a center....not a good sign."

This is amazingly depressing.

We ape about the failures of DT/MK and don't see that C Rhinehart is also a part of that failing '08 draft class.

If you take 3-4 guys in rounds 2-3 (Davis, Thomas, Kelly, Rhinehart), you have to walk away, years later, with a Pro Bowl potential player and very capable starters.

And we ain't got but one of those, and none of the others.

A when you add the failings of our 1st rounders--CR, LL, JC--you get a very, very, very bad picture.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 25, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Is Kelly eligible for the practice squad??

Posted by: rachel216 | August 25, 2010 10:01 AM

No.

Posted by: 4thFloor | August 25, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

My prediction:

Moss
Galloway
Armstrong
DT11
Banks
Austin

- Kelly to IR.

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 25, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 25, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Orakpo looks like a great pick but other than him the best picks have been TEs....(Cooley and Davis) from the former regime.....that's pretty sad. Rogers is a starting caliber CB and out of the guys draft in front/around him he was the best of the bunch but certainly not a #9 worthy guy. JC hardly worth the picks we traded to get up in round 1 and get him. I happen to believe that if ST21 hadn't been killed he and Landry would have been the most dynamic safety tandem in the league and I'm reserving judgment on LL until after this year when perhaps a non idiotic coaching staff will use him properly. Been yeah, its a pretty depressing collection of wasted picks over the last 5 years, not a single dynamic pro bowler other than Orakpo and Cooley.

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 25, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

What's the veracity of keeping more than the usual amount of O Linemen - if they're going to suck, they should at least be fresh.

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 25, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

LL a failure? LL was thrown into the FS position and couldn't handle it. He had a great rookie year.

But yes, that 08 draft class was very sad. The only reason why all ten players made the team was b/c vinny wanted himself to look good. Slowly every player started to get cut... the first was the awful punter, Durant Brooks.

Posted by: rachel216 | August 25, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

I could see Kelly on IR.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 25, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

anyone know about tyler polumbus the o lineman who denver just released? we could use the depth and he has history with shanny and the zone scheme

Posted by: zjenks | August 25, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

thanks 4thFloor.

Posted by: rachel216 | August 25, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

re: Polumbus

from ESPN insider:

The Denver Broncos chose to waive right tackle Tyler Polumbus on Tuesday, per Mike Klis of the Denver Post, and now he'll have to venture into the uncharted waters of playing competitive football for a team that doesn't call the state of Colorado home.

According to Klis, the Broncos' new power-blocking scheme was not a match for Polumbus, who seems more of a fit in a zone-blocking scheme. Therefore, Klis opines that the Washington Redskins, Houston Texans, Seattle Seahawks or Oakland Raiders could be a fit. Former NFL lineman and current Sports Illustrated scribe Ross Tucker thinks that the Dallas Cowboys or Pittsburgh Steelers might also show some interest. While everyone's in speculative mode, we'll go ahead and throw the Buffalo Bills in the mix, given their massive need on the bookends.

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 25, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Tiger Woods' ex-wife Elin Nordegren: 'I've been through hell'

Elin: I've been though Hell!!!

And now, I'm a single parent with all these kids to raise.

mrsmoe: That's true, girlfriend.

But you've also come out of the marriage to Tiger Woods a very, very, very wealthy woman.

Most women wouldn't call living with a cheating man who leaves you a pile of cash Hell.

They'd consider it the cost of doing business.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 25, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Yes, get this guy Polumbus... any help is needed with the lack of depth on our team.

Posted by: rachel216 | August 25, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

zj, how big is this cat?

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 25, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Yes, get this guy Polumbus... any help is needed with the lack of depth on our team.

Posted by: rachel216 | August 25, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Agreed, just read this from PFT one liners. Get this guy Shanahan!!!!

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | August 25, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

sign him.

Posted by: chrislarry | August 25, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Banks snaps phone pic of DT11 sleeping in meeting, posts on twitter:

http://yfrog.com/5lgw1xj

Posted by: chrislarry | August 25, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

zj, how big is this cat?

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 25, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse


25 years old 3 years in the league

6'8" - 3 bills

Here's Scouts Inc.'s report:

Grade: 62 | Key


Comment: Polumbus is a quality backup who can step in and give the occasional start as he develops his strength and technique. He knows how to use his size and arm length to control and steer opponents on by the pocket, but will become a leaner and overextend, causing him to fall off blocks at times. He lacks the kind of lateral range to seal off the corner vs. some of the league's better edge rushers but knows how to protect the pocket and play within himself. He does not do a great job of finishing blocks off, but he is still improving and could develop into an adequate starter in time.

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 25, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

I know you didn't ask me but...

6 ft 8, 300 lbs... only 25 years old!!!

Posted by: rachel216 | August 25, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

YES, we need depth at all OL positions. Is it a possibility that TWilliams moves to Right T and JBrown comes over to Left T?

Posted by: FedorEm | August 25, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Banks snaps phone pic of DT11 sleeping in meeting, posts on twitter:

http://yfrog.com/5lgw1xj

Posted by: chrislarry | August 25, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

ROFL that's awesome!!!! Little man on the depth chart......all's fair in love and war!

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 25, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

thanks for the info guys, looks like he could be a solid waiver wire pick up. whens the earliest we would hear?

Posted by: zjenks | August 25, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

i would rather see DT paying attention in meetings... but it's pretty funny.

Posted by: rachel216 | August 25, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

On the depth chart on ESPN, Polumbus was playing behind Batiste. If I'm not mistaken, Batiste was a guy the Skins released in 2008.

Posted by: TWISI | August 25, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

On the depth chart on ESPN, Polumbus was playing behind Batiste. If I'm not mistaken, Batiste was a guy the Skins released in 2008.

Posted by: TWISI | August 25, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

you are mistaken, Batiste was released last year 2009.....but also I think the point is Polumbus knows the zone scheme and is better suited for it than the power scheme they've gone to in Denver. He would just be more depth especially if Capers continues to look like warmed over suckage. Heyer is a solid backup but we could use another guy and someone familiar with the scheme would be a plus.

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 25, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Banks snaps phone pic of DT11 sleeping in meeting, posts on twitter:

http://yfrog.com/5lgw1xj

Posted by: chrislarry

Wow, suprised Shan-Allen-han hasn't put the kibosh on the use of cell phones or twitter during team meetings. it'll probably happen soon I bet.

Posted by: Predator48 | August 25, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

I would love it we signed Polumbus for depth at RT and RG. Lets hope it doesn't turn out to be a bidding war between us and these other teams.

Posted by: Predator48 | August 25, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

I would love it we signed Polumbus for depth at RT and RG. Lets hope it doesn't turn out to be a bidding war between us and these other teams.

Posted by: Predator48 | August 25, 2010 10:57 AM

Not likely to be a "bidding war" for an undrafted free agent who was cut in training camp after two years in the league. If the 'Skins want him, presumably they can pick him up off waivers, no?

Posted by: beep-beep | August 25, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 25, 2010 7:49 AM

No chance he hits you. Dude is a coward and all anyone would have to do is run away. AH will tire within 13 seconds.

Posted by: Mike4169 | August 25, 2010 9:41 AM | Report abuse


So wait a minute.

Moe talks the trash, then turns around and bolts away from AH...and AH is the coward?

Not sure how that one works out.

Anyways, Moe wants to get blasted in the grill.

Posted by: p1funk | August 25, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Yeh, what exactly did she think she was signing on for?

I mean, if you're that clueless about your mate - why marry them?

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 25, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

"He would just be more depth especially if Capers continues to look like warmed over suckage."

Most of the things I've read suggest that Selvish Capers will be a good NFL right tackle once he adds upper body stength and gets experience.

The argument for adding Polumbus is, is he better than W Robinson or S Heyer?

I hope the team takes the time to find out.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 25, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

I hope the team takes the time to find out.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 25, 2010 11:06 AM

Presumably the team already knows. Didn't he play a year for Shanahan in Denver?

Posted by: beep-beep | August 25, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

"A product of West Texas A&M, the 27-year-old Armstrong began his career in the Intense Football League and then graduated to the Arena Football League."


The Intense Football League?!?!

Posted by: 4-12 | August 25, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

p1funk


I don't even remember what that was about.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 25, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

The Intense Football League?!?!

Posted by: 4-12 | August 25, 2010 11:09 AM

It's kind of an elite Fantasy Football League. For guys like ChRis Larry.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 25, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

My prediction:

Moss
Galloway
Armstrong
DT11
Banks
Austin

- Kelly to IR.

Posted by: zjfr2 | August 25, 2010 10:05 AM

Co-sign.

And Polumbus sounds like he is worth a look. I can't imagine upgrading Heyer is that hard to do...

Posted by: edvar | August 25, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Bring Polumbus to District of Columbus

Posted by: Pepper5 | August 25, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

The Intense Football League?!?!

most of the games are shown on ESPN 13.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 25, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

I am against the 18 game season and I hope the players will resist, if they value life after the NFL, which isn't always clear. 14 games was enough. Plus, adding more games only enables the idiots that want to turn pro football into an arena league game.

Posted by: Pepper5 | August 25, 2010 9:35 AM


Co-sign. I'l also add that not many starting QBs will survive playing all 18 games. A starter-quality backup QB will become critical for teams playing such a long season and then pushing deep in the playoffs.

Posted by: Alan4 | August 25, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

PEOPLE, PEOPLE, PEOPLE!!!! Can we please calm down with the "We have been waiting three years for Malcolm and Devin to produce" argument! Let's keep in mind that for for two years, they were coached (and I used that term "coach" loosely) by someone who could give a crap about what the rest of the team was doing unless it was the QB. Once Zorn gave DT an opportunity, he began to show flashes last year. I say we give them both a shot with the new regime sans the idiotic coach and see how they pan out. If they can't get it done with this regime, then its probably a safe bet that they won't get it done at all!

HAIL!!

Posted by: myeldell | August 25, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

The Intense Football League?!?!

most of the games are shown on ESPN 13.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 25, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

An 18 game season is ridiculously long and doesn't make any sense! C.R.E.A.M!!!

Posted by: myeldell | August 25, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

"The Intense Football League?!?!....most of the games are shown on ESPN 13..."

Very, very, very, very funny

Analysis: the snarky tone is strong.

It suggests that there are too many ESPN channels (which there are) and that the Intense Football League is so bad, that its contests are broadcast on Friday Nights at 2am while most folks are avoiding DUI stops.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 25, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/25/rock-bottom-for-tatum-bell/

I don't know if this was already posted, but would anybody be interested in having Tatum Bell in camp. Sticky fingers aside, he is familiar when Shanahan's run scheme and may be more servicable than Larry Johnson or Willie Parker.

Of course my best memory of Bell is when he got steamrolled by Sean Taylor while half steppin' it through the hole on a run play in '05.

Posted by: Predator48 | August 25, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Tyler Polumbus is a scary guy. He looks OK on some plays but apparently has an unusually high number of 'blown blocks', e.g. plays on which he is directly responsible for a sack or a hurry. That's why the Broncs are so relieved at the return of Clady. Nobody is sure why Polumbus is so dangerously inconsistent, but the tape verifies it and the QBs pay the price.

Personally, I'd stay away from the guy.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 25, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

they were doing the same motivational thing with kelly during the off season workouts as with thomas, so maybe they're higher on kelly that it would seem.

and if you're considering releasing him or placing him on IR anyway, take a chance let him play.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | August 25, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

"An 18 game season is ridiculously long and doesn't make any sense!"


Presently, the starters all play 1 half of 4 preseason games (that's two games) plus a regular season schedule of 16 games.

There is, effectively, already a 18 game season in place.

So kill two preseason games and play 18 regular season games, and you have the same thing.

Thing is, the owners want the loot they don't have to split from 2 home preseason games, and don't want to pay players for two additional regular season games.

And een if teams don't want 18 games, you'd be hard-pressed to find players who like playing and preparing for 4 preseason games.

That's what's got to stop.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 25, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

most of the games are shown on ESPN 13.....

lol....ESPN 13, a.k.a. "Da Trece".

Look for the official UFL preseason power rankings in Obscure Sports Quarterly magazine.

Posted by: Predator48 | August 25, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Personally, I'd stay away from the guy.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 25, 2010 11:34 AM

Yeah, well that's just you. This is Redskins Insider where a bird in the hand is never worth two in the bush. Never. Especially when Stephon Heyer is the bird in the hand.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 25, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

follow me

beep beep

Posted by: beep-beep | August 25, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

"So kill two preseason games and play 18 regular season games, and you have the same thing."

An interesting argument. However, coaches do have the liberty to mail in the preseason games at no cost if they so choose. Bret Favre only played 4 snaps last week.

Make every game count (i.e. 18 reg season games), and I'm guessing you'll see a lot more NFL stars going on IR before the most meaningul games (end of season and playoffs).

Posted by: Alan4 | August 25, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Obscure Sports Quarterly magazine.

Mine just came in the mail. The stories are interesting.

Consider:

"Backstabbin' Friends" by Floyd Landis and Brian Mcname.

"That's Not Enough Money!" Scott Boras.

"I Am More Than Just Booty" by Serena Williams.

"Gosh is not a Cuss Word" Jim Zorn.

"St Joe Ain't Got Nothin' On Me" Tony Dungy

"Hope is a dirty, Four Letter Word" Barack Obama.

"Fuk New York" Joe Torre.

and the best story is,

"Should I Do Porn and Change my Last Name to Blowhan?" by Lindsey Lohan.

I think that last story is the one I'll go read in the bathroom.


Posted by: MistaMoe | August 25, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Agreed on Landry's shirt but I ain't gonna tell him it looks gay.

Posted by: authorofpoetry | August 25, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

So Armstrong is a Vinny recruit?

Posted by: WorstSeat | August 25, 2010 8:59 AM

Bruce Allen took over for Vinny mid-season.

Posted by: saltine182 | August 25, 2010 9:13 AM |

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nah, Cerrato signed this one. Give credit where it is due.

Cerrato signed a life-long Dallas Cowboys fan to be a Redskins receiver. LOL!

Posted by: ProfessorWrightBSU | August 25, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm thinking several OLine backups are not yet on the roster. The BA and Shanny team will pounce once rosters start getting cut down across the league.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | August 25, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Presently, the starters all play 1 half of 4 preseason games (that's two games) plus a regular season schedule of 16 games.

There is, effectively, already a 18 game season in place.

So kill two preseason games and play 18 regular season games, and you have the same thing.

Thing is, the owners want the loot they don't have to split from 2 home preseason games, and don't want to pay players for two additional regular season games.

And een if teams don't want 18 games, you'd be hard-pressed to find players who like playing and preparing for 4 preseason games.

That's what's got to stop.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 25, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Whats good Moe!!! My name is Moe too!

I agree with you on the fact that they essentially play an 18/20 game season with the 4 preaseason games.

What my beef is and probably the players sentiment as well is the preperation that goes into a single regular season game. Of course its what the owners want along other selfish requests. They stand to make a killing by adding the two regular season games. Yea, its preseason but it really depends on which games you take away. If you keep the 1st and 4th preseason games, the starters probably wouldn't mind as they never play any more than a few snaps. I guess the downside to this would be that those fringe players will only have a short time to make a big impression!

Posted by: myeldell | August 25, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

they were doing the same motivational thing with kelly during the off season workouts as with thomas, so maybe they're higher on kelly that it would seem.

and if you're considering releasing him or placing him on IR anyway, take a chance let him play.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | August 25, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

I would put Kelly on the PUP list and see what I got with either Austin or Banks. If one doesn't pan out, we can always practice squad him when Kelly comes back healthy (if Kelly comes back healthy????)

Posted by: myeldell | August 25, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

"So wait a minute.

Moe talks the trash, then turns around and bolts away from AH...and AH is the coward?"

Yes

Posted by: Mike4169 | August 25, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Skins should try Haynesworth at tight end or wide receiver.

Posted by: BenThere | August 25, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Is Galloway gonna make the team just because he attended all the OTAs? Saint Shanahan says he doesn't need to watch Galloway catch passes because he's seen him do it over the years. But has he seen him do it lately? No. Nobody doubts that he caught his share of passes in the 1990s, but has he caught any lately. Has he shown that he can compete as a 38 year old? He sure wasn't very good when he was 36 or 37. It's impossible to take this team seriously as long as Joey Galloway is on the roster.

Posted by: ShovelPlease | August 25, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

let galloway go he will not get picked up anytime soon or maybe ever again..I would keep banks and austin youth and speed plus special teams returners thomas and kelly would stay 1 more year if they can't produce draft WR's next year let rinehart go in the 1st cut if he can't beat out w. montgomery who is a weakling like rabach he will not be missed,even heyer according to shanahan is having a solid training camp/ota's, pre-season games. move e. williams to center the line will get younger and stronger. go with YOUTH at back-up's on o-line.

Posted by: wathu19 | August 25, 2010 5:58 PM | Report abuse

The first line sums it up:
"Thirty-eight year OLD receiver Joey Galloway".

Another ex Cowboy brought here to lose, to go with Norv, Deion, James Washington, Jean Fugett (look that up youngsters), Calvin Hill (Grant's dad youngsters), Alvin Harper, Scott Galbreat, Sean Suisham (bet you remember him).

Adding a 1970 Ford Pinto that used to run well across the street; and expecting it to perform well = stupidity

Then again, bringing in an oft injured old QB and expecting him to make it through 3 preseason games is equally dumb

Posted by: morrisday1 | August 25, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

The first line sums it up:
"Thirty-eight year OLD receiver Joey Galloway".

Another ex Cowboy brought here to lose, to go with Norv, Deion, James Washington, Jean Fugett (look that up youngsters), Calvin Hill (Grant's dad youngsters), Alvin Harper, Scott Galbreat, Sean Suisham (bet you remember him).

Adding a 1970 Ford Pinto that used to run well across the street; and expecting it to perform well = stupidity

Then again, bringing in an oft injured old QB and expecting him to make it through 3 preseason games is equally dumb

Posted by: morrisday1 | August 25, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Watching the game the other day I said to my son, "Did I just see a Redskin receiver actually get open and catch the ball?" It was Armstrong. Maybe.....

Posted by: InTheMiddle | August 25, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

All I'm saying is if Kelly gets the nod over Armstrong for a roster spot, this club still hasn't learned one thing! How can Kelly still even be seriously considered considering he has done much of nothing since he been drafted? I can see it now. Kelly makes a few basic catches in preseason enough for coaches to be brained washed and they waive Armstrong. Seriously, I think Kelly has exhausted his resources w/ the Skins. He's had a few years over Armstrong and still nothing to right home about. Armstrong obviously wants it more!

Posted by: hoganincharge | August 25, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

All I'm saying is if Kelly gets the nod over Armstrong for a roster spot, this club still hasn't learned one thing! How can Kelly still even be seriously considered considering he has done much of nothing since he been drafted? I can see it now. Kelly makes a few basic catches in preseason enough for coaches to be brained washed and they waive Armstrong. Seriously, I think Kelly has exhausted his resources w/ the Skins. He's had a few years over Armstrong and still nothing to right home about. Armstrong obviously wants it more!

Posted by: hoganincharge | August 25, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

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