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DeAngelo (@Dhall23) Hall did his usual Fan Appreciation Day on Twitter yesterday. He's been doing this for the past few weeks and tweets "I may have a special surprise for you guys!" in his final effort will be next Monday. Hmmmm ... Anyway, here are a few highlights from yesterday's fandemonium and the morning reading/watching list:

On his reputation in Atlanta and Oakland: "Can't wait to get back to Oakland! ... lol

Thank you. I really want my play to speak for itself. I'm not a bad guy! I'm just passionate about Winning and Competing"

I feel like at the end of the day Only God can judge if you are regretful and sorry for your mistakes! Humans are Humans...

We all make mistakes and errors so who can really truly judge one another!...I personally try not to throw Rocks!"

On food: I just had Ben's Chilli Bowl and it lived up to every bit of what I had heard! Great Food! did I mention I love the DMV?

Probably my diet. I can gain weight really easy so keeping it off is a challenge lol...I love good food

His Goals: First Goal Win our Division, 2nd Super Bowl, 3rd Top Defense in the League, 4th Double Digit Picks, 5th Pro Bowl!

On a coupla QBs -- Michael Vick and Colt Brennan: I honestly think Mike has paid his debt to society. I would love to see him play again sooner than later! But I respect the NFL

Colt is a great guy! I think he's going to be a great player! He's playing one of the toughest positions though!

...

One of the big issues on a slow news day is the status of Derrick Mason. Has he retired? Was his decision hastily made in the aftermath of the death of his friend, Steve McNair? The Baltimore Ravens issued a statement saying that Mason had not filed retirement paperwork, but Mason spoke with jocklife.com, a Web site that shares his agent's address.

"I have had a tremendous career, and I played for two great teams. I had fun," Mason told the Web site. "In my career, I have been able to do everything but win a Super Bowl. I've had the opportunity to play on great teams and with great players. After 12 years, I have seen it all and done it all," Mason said. "Right now, I am content with the decision I am making. All good things come to an end, and I am ready to see what else life has to offer."

...

LA Times NFL columnist Sam Farmer hung out at the NFL 101 gathering at the Coliseum. It's an annual get-together that features a panel of players, former players and media members, among other things.

Naturally, Sam tweeted (@LATimesfarmer) the event:

Carson Palmer on 18-game season idea: "I hate it. Sixteen games is already a triathlon."

Palmer: "I know there aren't a lot of Bengals fans on the West Coast." [Joe] Theismann: "Not a lot of Bengals fans in Cincinnati, either."

SB champ? [Warren] Moon: Patriots. [Peter] King: Patriots. Theismann: Redskins (hmm, who'd have guessed?) [Trent] Dilfer: Eagles.

Which coach is on the hot seat? Theismann: "Wade Phillips in Dallas. I think that's Mike Shanahan's next job."

...

Roger Goodell and Jim "Not the 'Playoffs???' " Mora climbed Mt. Rainier recently and, naturally, the NFL Network tagged along.

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RIP, Tessica. Tony Romo and Jessica Simpson are a couple no more. Obviously, this is no ordinary gossip item. It has huge ramifications for the NFC East and, possibly, the NFL. Discuss.

By Cindy Boren  |  July 14, 2009; 8:31 AM ET
 
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Tony Romo sent a email to TO after the breakup.

"Its over now please come back, I luv you"

Posted by: alex35332 | July 14, 2009 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Great post PT!! I like the web-centric format.

And btw - today's listening assignment is also today's Phil Collins torture moment of the day

Get out those linen jackets and sleevless T's. Don't foget the Hurachis!

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 14, 2009 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Foxtrot, Indigo, Romeo, Sierra, Tango!

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | July 14, 2009 10:20 AM | Report abuse

lmao@alex

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 14, 2009 10:22 AM | Report abuse

I'm glad Tony Romo broke up with her. That's one less excuse he'll have when the girls miss the playoffs again.

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 14, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

First Goal Win our Division, 2nd Super Bowl, 3rd Top Defense in the League, 4th Double Digit Picks, 5th Pro Bowl!

DH - man's got the right proirities

Posted by: noonefromtampa | July 14, 2009 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Any news about Jeremy Jarmon and the 'SKins interest in him?

http://www.redskinsgab.com/2009/07/13/skins-to-target-de-jarmon-in-the-supplemental-draft/

Posted by: Broman17 | July 14, 2009 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Yes got to like Hall's vibe. I to think he got a bad wrap and can be a solid gamer.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 14, 2009 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Which coach is on the hot seat? Theismann: "Wade Phillips in Dallas. I think that's Mike Shanahan's next job."

For sure Wade is on the hotseat. Letting Romo and his bud kick TO out of town will surely come back to haunt him.

Dallas will hit hard times without TO.

LarryInClintonMD.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | July 14, 2009 10:33 AM | Report abuse

who knew Hall followed Redskins Insider:

"did I mention I love the DMV?"

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 14, 2009 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Hall is a REDSKIN. From day 1. We're very lucky we landed such a motivated player.

I was getting chuckles from Carson Palmer's candySJK wuss bagging & Theismann's dis!

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 14, 2009 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Total Access on NFL Network has nice segment on the supplemental draft. Looks like the do a drawing for draft selection something like the NBA lottery. Jarmin is figured to go somewhere in late round 2 to mid round 5.

Posted by: noonefromtampa | July 14, 2009 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Dallas will hit hard times without TO.

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | July 14, 2009 10:33 AM

Totally agree. I also think NYG is facing some REAL hard times without Plaxico (who I still believe is the most dangerous WR in the NFL ... no pun intended about the gun thing ... the guy is just a liability to opposing defenses ... he DEMANDS double coverage).

Posted by: dcsween | July 14, 2009 10:51 AM | Report abuse

dc, Plax, Toomer, and Ward, are gonna leave some holes in that offense...teams are gonna load up the box and stop Jacobs....until they prove they can pass effectively....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 14, 2009 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Palmer: "I know there aren't a lot of Bengals fans on the West Coast." [Joe] Theismann: "Not a lot of Bengals fans in Cincinnati, either."
LOL!!

And what's up with D Hall's abuse of the exclamation point? But you got to like his enthusiasm

Posted by: ga8085 | July 14, 2009 11:00 AM | Report abuse

I hope Michael Vick gets a second chance but, considering the animal rights morons that believe dogs are more important than humans, I doubt that the Roger Hitler Goodell will.

Posted by: abxinc | July 14, 2009 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Roger Hitler Goodell

yikes.....ufb....yup....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 14, 2009 11:05 AM | Report abuse

The DMV is real... I told you all that DC, MD, and VA was known 'round these parts -- well, more in urban areas -- as the DMV. In a few years they're either going to formally start referring to this region as the DMV, or give the Department of Motor Vehicles a new name.

Any suggestions?

Where are all the Department of Motor Vehicles funnies now? TheTruth? dcsween?

Where ya at?

Posted by: RedDMV | July 14, 2009 11:05 AM | Report abuse

D hall is awesome. Belongs in DC, was our best corner last year and I think he will have 8 picks next year. Hopefully 2 going back for 6.

Posted by: iH8dallas | July 14, 2009 11:06 AM | Report abuse

First Goal Win our Division, 2nd Super Bowl, 3rd Top Defense in the League, 4th Double Digit Picks, 5th Pro Bowl!

DH - man's got the right proirities

Posted by: noonefromtampa | July 14, 2009 10:24 AM


I disagree. I know he means well, but does he realize that the division winner tends to lose in the playoffs to an NFC East wild card team in recent years? I'd rather win the Super Bowl as a wild-card than win the division and lose in the divisional round. Just sayin'...

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 14, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

And what's up with D Hall's abuse of the exclamation point? But you got to like his enthusiasm

Posted by: ga8085

DHall ain't abuse the exclamation point! He's hyped about the coming season and being home in the DMV! Besdies, he's young a multi-millioniare, and plays pro football!

Wouldn't you be excited as well?!?!?!

Posted by: RedDMV | July 14, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Red, you get me wrong ... I'm no Truth ... and I'm a lover, not a fighter ... My only DMV thing is the line from Aunt Patty and Selma talking to Bart about work down at the DMV ("Some days, we don't let the line move at all ... we call those WEEKDAYs. Heh heh heh (cough cough) heh heh.")

Beantown, I'm same paging you on the Giants. They seem like they are hard core invested in a rebuilding year. In my mind, the Skins toughest competition in the NFC East is going to be Philly. I suspect some low scoring games in the NFC East this year ... seems like all four are focused on some dominating defense (and actually, Philly's D might be the weakest of the four). Sometimes it sucks to be in the toughest division in the NFL.

[The other tough real division in my eyes for this coming year is going to be the NFC South ... NO, Atl, TB, and Carolina ... fortunately, the other NFC East teams have to play them too.]

Posted by: dcsween | July 14, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

tough real, real tough ... typos drifting into my fingers as Gibbs-speak fades further and further into the past. Guts out, such as.

Posted by: dcsween | July 14, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Actually, I'm not that surprised by Derrick Mason's alleged retirement. I'm more surprised that Ozzie Newsome didn't pick up another wide receiver in the draft. Michael Oher may be an exceptional prospect, but the Ravens had a shot at Hakeem Nicks or Kenny Britt in the first round, and there were other quality WRs like Derrick Williams of Penn State and Joaquin Iglesias of Oklahoma who came up later. I know the Ravens signed Kelly Washington, but he's mostly a reserve and a special teams player. So it's mostly Mark Clayton, and if Mason goes, who else?

You wonder if maybe Ozzie is one of those GMs who figures you can find a decent WR on the FA market or in the later rounds of the draft. Sort of the way Vinny Cerrato views offensive linemen. Unless there's a potential star sitting there high up in the first round, you draft another position.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 14, 2009 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Goodell is the man. No problem with him and the way he runs the league. From what I've seen, the man is fair as possible given individual situations and how it may stack up with other incidents.

Funny how when he took over, the league started to act out. I guess the players threw it back to school, you know when you had that substitute teacher, and everyone showed out or didn't show up at all.

Posted by: RedDMV | July 14, 2009 11:18 AM | Report abuse

brownwood, I'm with you on the importance of playing on the wild card weekend. Sitting out that week (esp. after a weak December) seems like it has done more damage than good recently ... but I think you can still win the NFC East and play that weekend.

[Thinking back to this past season like it was a million years ago, can someone remind me again how it was that the Cardinals even made it to the playoffs much less the Super Bowl?]

Posted by: dcsween | July 14, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Wouldn't you be excited as well?!?!?!

Posted by: RedDMV | July 14, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

In that case: How about those Washington Nationals?!?!?!!
(ha, I don't even watch baseball or stay in the DC area and I know they suck)

Posted by: ga8085 | July 14, 2009 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Samson, maybe Ozzie N. is thinking about one of those FA WRs ... seems like it would be a good fit ... did Antonio Bryant ever end up long term anywhere? What about that guy from Seattle who the Skins hardly sniffed at?

Posted by: dcsween | July 14, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

my bad. i figured the jokes, or whatever, were made in good jest. i mean, it is a screen name afterall.

and the Truth ain't no fighter. i don't know what he is exactly (can't think of any derogatory adjectives right now), but a fighter he is not.

Posted by: RedDMV | July 14, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

"I also think NYG is facing some REAL hard times without Plaxico (who I still believe is the most dangerous WR in the NFL ... no pun intended about the gun thing ... the guy is just a liability to opposing defenses ... he DEMANDS double coverage).
Posted by: dcsween"

that might be an overstatement, but IMO you're right. The Jints suffered from Plax's absence last year, and the Cowboys were quite dependent on Owens. The fans of both clubs like to pretend it's addition by subtraction, but the coaches know better. David Tyree was the photo-op star of the NY Super Bowl win, but it was Burress who caught the winning pass. Roethlisberger hasn't been as effective since Plax left, and it's reasonable to think Eli won't be, either. And there's no Hines Ward on the Jints', either. Derrick Ward and Toomer are gone, too, further mixing up the variables.

Thing is, the Skins aren't in much better shape at present. Moss is fine but Randle El is out of position and they still haven't found the big, leaping, catch-in-traffic WR that would help them convert some of those drives to TDs. They're relying on some unknowns to make an impact, same as their rivals. Philly's no exception, either.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 14, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

"Samson, maybe Ozzie N. is thinking about one of those FA WRs ... seems like it would be a good fit ... did Antonio Bryant ever end up long term anywhere? What about that guy from Seattle who the Skins hardly sniffed at?Posted by: dcsween"

Marvin Harrison is the name I keep hearing. But would Marvin want to play with a raw QB like Flacco? You'd expect to see him maybe in Minnesota with Favre.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 14, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Speaking od D.Hall can we get the run returning some punts. AREs two step drop down routine is played out, Santana is far too important to risk regularly returning, although i love him on spot occasion. D used to be a very good punt returner, i remember he has two punts for a TD in one game @ tech, also scored on a reverse i believe. anyways we need some new blood in that spot i think he could provide it.

Posted by: Stu27 | July 14, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Dilfer is picking the Eagles? I think they are solid but they are an injury at QB or RB away from mediocrity. You also have to consider that you never know which McNabb shows up for the game. Will it be the guy who was benched in the game against the Ravens last year, or will it be the guy who got them to the SuperBowl a few years ago? I think they have a chance to be very good, but with the Eagles, you never know...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | July 14, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Theisman knows how to KEEP A PAYCHECK COMING from Dan Snyder.......

(I like it)

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 14, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

"did I mention I love the DMV?"

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 14, 2009 10:33 AM

CMV has nothing to do with Red. DMV is the newest common local term to refer to the DC Metropolitan Area......

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 14, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Moss is fine but Randle El is out of position and they still haven't found the big, leaping, catch-in-traffic WR that would help them convert some of those drives to TDs.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 14, 2009 11:29 AM |

Seems like the Skins weakness on that point is mostly in the red zone (I'd like to see a statistic about how often they scored this past season from the red zone vs. from before the red zone). I think that the player need for the in-traffic WR has been filled in part by Cooley (and probably its Cooley's success that inspired spending the draft pick on Fred Davis). Neither of those two guys is that fast though (like Plaxico or T.O.). Its the yards-after-catch by guys like Plaxico and T.O. that the Skins currently lack (unless Kelly stays put together), but that player need (big fast WR) fills a long field need, not the redzone part. The inability to get six in the red zone is really were the Skins have faltered.

Posted by: dcsween | July 14, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Check Keyshawn going all self-righteous:

A couple weeks back, when I wrote a story about how NFL receivers have dominated the news, one potential source I tried to reach was Keyshawn Johnson. As it turned out, Johnson called me back after I had already finished the piece, but that doesn't mean he didn't have anything interesting to say about the state of the NFL's diva position.

No surprise there, as Johnson has been speaking his mind entertainingly since the moment he joined the NFL.

"I know this much," Johnson told me. "Back in 1996, I was drafted No. 1 overall [by the Jets]. I was the queen of the ball, the princess, whatever. And all those guys have come after me. I wrote the book on diva receivers. Truly, when you break it all down, I'm the first guy in the last 15 years of receivers who did all that stuff. I threw my helmet to the ground when no one was doing that. I slammed my helmet to the ground and then they changed the rules banning that."

But Johnson had the good fortune to be drafted and play under Jets head coach Bill Parcells early in his career, and in time, the Tuna taught him how to be a team player even if he never lost his individuality or his penchant for drawing attention to himself at the game's most diva-heavy position.

"It took me two years to figure that out," Johnson said. "But eventually I had to admit to myself: 'You had fun with that act for a couple years, kid. But let it go. Now it's time to be a professional, have fun, make money and win games.'"

Cont'd...

Posted by: RedDMV | July 14, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

DJ Hackett (SEAT) is still available, so is Marvin Harrison, Jerry Porter, and Matt Jones, to name a few WR's on the market.

Posted by: 72Redskins | July 14, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Johnson said he hasn't been closely following all the offseason storylines involving high-profile receivers this year, but he didn't hold back when I referenced Brandon Marshall's recent request to be traded from Denver.

"Brandon Marshall, what have you ever done?'' Johnson said. "You went to one Pro Bowl, maybe two. You caught a bunch of balls because they threw them to you. Have you even won a playoff game yet? Guys like me and Michael Irvin, we all won rings. Win a ring first and then talk that way.

"He says he doesn't want to play in Denver because he doesn't have a quarterback now that Jay Cutler is in Chicago. Please. When I was with the Jets, our starting quarterbacks were Ray Lucas, Frank Reich, Neil O'Donnell, Glenn Foley, Rick Mirer and Vinny Testaverde. And he's complaining about having to play with Kyle Orton? You should worry about making your quarterback better."

Johnson serves as an ESPN analyst during the NFL season, and this offseason has been devoting his energies to his new show about decorating on the A&E network: Tackling Design. His opinions apparently never get rusty, no matter what time of year it is.

"I keep seeing where Anquan Boldin wants to be traded from Arizona, or he wants to be paid like Larry Fitzgerald," Johnson said. "Anquan, you're a glorified T.J. Houshmandzadeh, so cut it out. They're the same player. You want $11 million? Why don't you take the $8 million they're offering and be happy? You're not Larry Fitzgerald."

Posted by: RedDMV | July 14, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

I love that I can find a place with people talking football this time of year. This time of year just sucks football-wise. Home Run Derby and Tour de France just don't cut it for me. I'm glad I can get my fix here.

Thanks RI peeps!

Posted by: dcsween | July 14, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

That's not exclamation point abuse.

¡THIS! is exclamation point abuse!!!!!¡¡¡!!!!!1111111111!!!!1!!11!!!¡¡

yeehaw

And Gints strengths are their lines. I worry about that no matter who is catching the ball.

Philly's new receivers bother me. But if we use DaDo_LaRon_Ron properly, we should negate those guys pretty quick.

Can someone just give me the Chris Berman award already?!? jeez - what's an idiot gotta DO around here anyway...


...maps

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 14, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

D hall is awesome. Belongs in DC, was our best corner last year and I think he will have 8 picks next year. Hopefully 2 going back for 6.

Posted by: iH8dallas | July 14, 2009 11:06 AM

Agree. HAll posses the swagger that CR22 and Smooot wish they had. It's not too late for Los, though. They should be good for each other.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 14, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

72Skins, thx ... DJ Hackett was the guy I was thinking about. Any of those guys should be a non-brainer pick up for Ozzie, except for Matt Jones, which would be a non-sober pick up.

Posted by: dcsween | July 14, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Foxtrot, Indigo, Romeo, Sierra, Tango!

Posted by: LarryInClintonMD | July 14, 2009 10:20 AM

Shouldn't that be - Foxboro, Indy, Romo, Simpson, Terrell???

Posted by: charley42 | July 14, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

The Redskins can beat the Eagles! The team that we can never seem to beat is the Giants. BTW the NFC South will not be that strong next year. My predictions for next season:
NFC East
1.Washington 11-5
2.New York 10-6 (Wild Card)
3. Dallas 7-9
4. Philly 6-10(McNabb has season ending injury early in the season)

Posted by: iH8dallas | July 14, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

D. Hall is saying (tweeting) all the right things. If he stays away fromt the chili Bowl and satys healthy...he could be teh real deal.

That said, I can't resist:

"We all make mistakes and errors so who can really truly judge one another!...I personally try not to throw Rocks!""--D. Hall

That's okay, last year you couldn't have reached Eddie Royal with a rock.

I also like the news from other sources format....as long as the other sources aren't Redskins.Com.

Posted by: TheCork | July 14, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Sween - Red Zone was on Zorn. Just like he didn't have his Hurry Up Offense ready for game one last year, he needs to improve on Red Zone playcalling.

Zorn has been Gibbsian 2.0 inside the 40 to date......

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 14, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Seems like the Skins weakness on that point is mostly in the red zone (I'd like to see a statistic about how often they scored this past season from the red zone vs. from before the red zone). I think that the player need for the in-traffic WR has been filled in part by Cooley (and probably its Cooley's success that inspired spending the draft pick on Fred Davis). Neither of those two guys is that fast though (like Plaxico or T.O.). Its the yards-after-catch by guys like Plaxico and T.O. that the Skins currently lack (unless Kelly stays put together), but that player need (big fast WR) fills a long field need, not the redzone part. The inability to get six in the red zone is really were the Skins have faltered.

Posted by: dcsween | July 14, 2009 11:42 AM


I'm not sure what you're talking about Sween, Cooley only caught one TD all last year and Moss is actually pretty good after the catch. What they need is a big guy that can rise over DBs, catch the ball at it's highest point and make those big catches to keep drives alive and/or in the end zone.

Posted by: brownwood26 | July 14, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

And that's where I came up with the name...

"Red" short for the RED in Redskins; the DMV is for geographical identification.

RedDMV, beeyotches!

Hall know what it is.

Posted by: RedDMV | July 14, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

can someone remind me again how it was that the Cardinals even made it to the playoffs much less the Super Bowl?

Posted by: dcsween | July 14, 2009 11:19 AM |

Oooh! Call on me, Mr. Sween! I know the answer to that one!

They play in the same division as San Francisco, St. Louis, and Seattle. One of those four had to go to the playoffs. (I hope no one answered this one yet.)

And, there sure are a lot of posts from you, Mr. Sween. I take it that your vacation just ended so you have nothing better to do than post on RI.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | July 14, 2009 12:07 PM | Report abuse

I thought Red was for you being in a Red State?

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 14, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

"Seems like the Skins weakness on that point is mostly in the red zone"

That was my assumption too but somebody corrected me earlier, saying that they actually were pretty good inside the 20 but faltered between the 20 and the 40. Can't remember who it was but I thought it an interesting point.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 14, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse

I still wish we could get a good reliable kicker. Someone who we can trust to make a FG from 45 yards out all the time. A guy who gets us an extra 6 a game can change the entire season.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 14, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse

4th - DREADful redzone work by Zorn et. al.

I can't put it all on him, but bottom line, that's the head coarch's responsibility. He NEEDS to do better. I'm optimistic he will.

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 14, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse

No, but I likes it...

Posted by: RedDMV | July 14, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse

alex,

IMHO, I think you will be surprised by SS this year.

Posted by: charley42 | July 14, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Can y'all hire a college intern with Java experience to fix the webpage? This thing is now a godawful jammed up mess...you can't read anything! It's making my eyes bleed and giving me a migraine...

Thank you.

Posted by: McMetal | July 14, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Who knows who will be good in the NFC East...all indicators point to Giants and Eagles, but I say this...

1) We have a QB that's playing for a payday and some respect.

2) We have a solid D-Line (finally) with depth and a formidable secondary.

3) We've got an answer at Left Guard in Dockery

4) The offense is in its second year of a system

On the Other hand

1) We still have issues at RT and depth on the O-line

2) We have a RB and coach with some friction

3) We have major questions at WR


BUT

Skins could surprise this year. I don't think anyone in the NFC east is light years ahead of Skins.

Have at me!

Posted by: rickyroge | July 14, 2009 12:19 PM | Report abuse

2) We have a RB and coach with some friction

No we don't.......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 14, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

I bet Hall puts an electric comforter on ya boy Eddie Royal this time around, Cork.

The clamps, the clank-clank, and what not.

Hall is on a different team, different personnel in the secondary, different philosophy, different strategy. What's or who's to say that with a full off-season in this system, he won't be the best CB in the league - period?

Posted by: RedDMV | July 14, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

TO was addition by subtraction with the Cowboys....I wish he'd stayed with the Boys since he was past his prime and kept their faster, younger WR's on the sidelines. Roy Williams is better than TO at this point and will see a lot more passes coming his way next year which could be a problem for us with our relatively small CB's.

Romo's a class act BTW....breaks up with his long-time girlfriend the day before her birthday. At least now he won't have an excuse for choking in December or the 1st round of the playoffs. He's done nothing in his career to consider him an elite QB like Manning, Brady, or Rothleisberger.

Posted by: wizfan89 | July 14, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Rick, I disagree with your 1 and 2 under "on the other hand" in your previous post.

I really don't see how they have depth issues along the offensive line -- they have like 30 of 'em in camp. Maybe concerns at RT, but I wouldn't say issues. Either Heyer (who proved he could play at the position last year), Williams, Bridges or Runyan (if signed) will be more than enough to garner decent to excellent in production at RT. If nothing else they have hella insurance policies. With the exception of Heyer (a basic lock), I can see two of the remaining three making the roster with no problem.

Posted by: RedDMV | July 14, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

If Kelly's fragile knees hold up he could be a viable red zone target, also if Fred Davis can successfully learn 2 or 3 plays designed for him in the endzone he could be another weapon,D.Thomas too if he can man up, grow up, realize he's in the NFL and and put it together.

I saw Thomas and some of the other WR's along with ARE doing a drill with Colt Brennan on the NFL network about 2 weeks ago? Anyway, the wr was lined out and a few yards ahead of Colt and you had to turn around and catch the ball without hardly any time to see it, Davis missed just about all of his, and seemed more amused than disapointed. This other wr, tall guy, Mario, or Marko something, he caught all of his. Somebody else dropped all of theirs and got ribbed by ARE. I know this was just a drill, but drills are where it all starts. Oh, and Colt was putting some heat on the passes too.

Posted by: 72Redskins | July 14, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, alot of folks say the QB, WR's and Oline have to play better. But Zorn needs to call better plays too. Play action on 3rd and long and 4yd routes on 3rd and 6 ain't gonna cut it.

Posted by: ga8085 | July 14, 2009 12:54 PM | Report abuse

If it's 3rd and 6, the route should be no shorter than 8yds, to hell with all this depending on YAC. That's a bunch of BS, especially with the game on the line. That was some frustrating sh%t to watch last year, those short azz patterns with the receiver getting tackled about a yard or two short of the first down marker.

Posted by: 72Redskins | July 14, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Man, I so agree with the insiders here that are saying we need a big guy down in the end zone. Actually, we need two. Inside the 20, Moss gets lost in traffic. Kelly could fill one spot, and Marko Mitchell is 6'4" - maybe he is the other guy. Put them in with Cooley and somebody's going to get the ball. I really hope Zorn mixes it up more in his offensive play calling. He's got the weapons to go two tightend or five WR's. He can put both Betts and Portis in the backfield at the same time giving teams two backs to worry about. Hopefully, one of the scatbacks will blossom and they'll have some nice options on 3rd and long with some running back screens. Zorn says he has been able to install a lot more packages this offseason, so I hope it translates to some innovative stuff on the field...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | July 14, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

"I still wish we could get a good reliable kicker. Someone who we can trust to make a FG from 45 yards out all the time. A guy who gets us an extra 6 a game can change the entire season.Posted by: alex35332"

That was definitely a weakness last year. Suisham was find inside the 40, not so good outside.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 14, 2009 1:18 PM | Report abuse

I think you may see better punting w/ improved line play. Not so sure about
kicking, but mebbe.

I think most of us agree that O Line is the biggest problem. Then there is tons of conjecture on what the next biggest hole is...

I would agree with anyone who said: Gametime Coaching, Kick +/or Punt games, Returns.

Most of the other units I believe are servicable enough to focus on any/all of the above areas. I didn't put receivers or QB play on there - 'cause these guys have to step it up and it's their year to shine or get lost.

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 14, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

I think most of us agree that O Line is the biggest problem. Then there is tons of conjecture on what the next biggest hole is...

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 14, 2009 1:25 PM

Most maybe, but not all of us. I'm with Brownwood that the biggest problem on this team is playing Orakpo at SLB part of the time. I thought he was crazy, but he persuaded me. Maybe it's me that's crazy.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | July 14, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, alot of folks say the QB, WR's and Oline have to play better. But Zorn needs to call better plays too. Play action on 3rd and long and 4yd routes on 3rd and 6 ain't gonna cut it.

Posted by: ga8085 | July 14, 2009 12:54 PM

2nd this notion......

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 14, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

I was high on Swisham last pre season, and he has plenty of raw power, but he cannot find the medium between raw power and Extra Point accuracy.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 14, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

"can someone remind me again how it was that the Cardinals even made it to the playoffs much less the Super Bowl?Posted by: dcsween |"

It's a very good question, because most of the league thought they had quit. You recall they started 7-3, only to finish 9-7, becoming only the second team with that poor record to make the Super Bowl?

This is a club that got its butt kicked 48-20 by Philadelphia in late November. A team that got smacked in December by both Minnesota (35-14) and the Pats (47-7). Then managed to come back and beat the Falcons (not so difficult), the Panthers (hard to understand), and the Eagles (in Phoenix) to get to the big game. A team that finished 19th in the NFL in total defense and managed to beat only one club in the NFC East (Dallas).

But got hot at the right time. Like New York the year before, only they couldn't quite pull it off one more time.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 14, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

That Pittsburgh team, even with the line problems, was pretty strong though.

Their defense was pretty darn stiffling. I know it looked to some like Arizona had a chance to pull it out. But to me it looked like the regular season domination by Pitt w/ Arizona trying to flare into contention.

I still would rather have Leftwich at #2 than Collins or Colt!!

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 14, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

3) We've got an answer at Left Guard in Dockery
...

Have at me!

Posted by: rickyroge | July 14, 2009 12:19 PM

With Kendall, I didn't think we had a question. The right side of the line was the question (both RT and RT ... the position, then the guy with the neck injury).

t_e_, you got there first on the Cardinals, but playing in a crappy division (and finishing 9-7 ... AND winning the division) does not explain making it all the way to the Super Bowl.

72Skins and RedSkHead, I also am hoping for plenty from Marko Mitchell. My only hope is that the powers that be make their roster decisions based on talent alone rather than (their own) pride and roster spot. My understanding about the second round receivers is that Kelly and Thomas would be filling different roles based on their relative size and speed ... and that Mitchell would be a duplicate of the size/speed/skill set of Thomas. Btwn the guy they picked first in the second round and the guy they picked in the 7th round, I hope the guy who gets the roster spot gets it just based on his talent alone.

Posted by: dcsween | July 14, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Leftwich is a no 1 now in TB isn't he? I always go hot and cold on him.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 14, 2009 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Samson wins on the "how the F?" contest re: the Cardinals. Same paging as Dik on Leftwich. We could have beaten the Steelers at FedEx if Big Ben had to finish that game. Leftwich just has a great arm and is patient. [Inability to scramble doesn't matter when the opponent lacks a pass rush.]

t_e_, don't doubt yourself. There is no "maybe" in that statement. You definitely are crazy and it has nothing to do with agreeing with anybody. And, yes, I'm back from vacation ... and getting my Skins chatter fix.

Posted by: dcsween | July 14, 2009 1:57 PM | Report abuse

When's training camp start? Are we there yet?

Good grief, it's been a long time since the Skins took a dump in the finale at San Francisco, hasn't it? Seems like a zillion years ago.

Doin' the bull dance, feelin' the flow...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | July 14, 2009 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Wow, Nate and dcsween in the same day! The season must be drawing near.

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 14, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Heya Nate!

wtSJK is tha Bull Dance?

Alex, I wouldn't want to give Lefty #1 $$. But I like him with something to prove (comin' from #2) on his hometown team.

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 14, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Dik, it's a "Happy Gilmore" reference. Kevin Nealon stole some scenes as pro golfer Gary Potter.

Can't get here quickly enough, etrod. I'm trying to remember if I had 8-8 or 9-7 in the PDX pool.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | July 14, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

In order for a big, tall receiver to catch a ball in traffic, he needs a QB who will throw a ball in traffic. Jus' sayin' iz all.

Re Marvin Harrison: Word on the street is the Vikes are interested. He may be done though. He hasn't been the picture of health the last couple of seasons. Plus, that shooting incident has to be giving people pause. Everyone says he's the shooter but he wasn't charged because of witness issues.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | July 14, 2009 2:21 PM | Report abuse

While there's nothing better than the regular season of fubball, I have to say that the jibba and the jabba up here in mid-July is an outstanding read. Third anniversary of the blog coming up....

Posted by: CindyBoren | July 14, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Kevin Nealon is genious... whats w/ white LA comedians & the banjo, tho?!


...maps...

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 14, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Cindy! Cindy! Cindy! Cindy!

Posted by: noonefromtampa | July 14, 2009 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Guys,
I would have liked Leftwich on our roster, too. At the time he was available, I said he made more sense than keeping Collins. Still, I don't think Griese could help us. When you're a QB and Tampa Bay cuts you, you have hit rock bottom. Having said this, I think Collins should go and the team should head for preseason with JC, CB and CD on their roster. I wouldn't mind seeing another young guy thrown into the mix but any fourth QB is not going to get many chances. I don't think you'd put a QB on the developmental roster.

Speaking of which, I was reading somewhere that the developmental rosters are becoming a repository for players in the non-skill positions because teams can't wait to poach a running back or a quarterback on a developmental roster. It sounds like the developmental roster has become a farce. Anyone agree with this?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | July 14, 2009 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Losing to the Rams, Bengals, and 49er's was crap last season, cost us the playoffs.

Can't afford to lose to teams like that this year.

This team also needs to be more successful at HOME. I wish Fed-Ex field was a more intimadating environment.

Posted by: 72Redskins | July 14, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Mason retires in Baltimore. What do you think about trading ARE to Baltimore for Cedric Peerman?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | July 14, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

dcsween

"...I also think NYG is facing some REAL hard times without Plaxico..."

1st: Welcome back!!

2nd: Totally agree. I want to see how the jints' offense functions without D Ward and P Burress.

It looks like this season, we might get a chance to see just how good Eli Manning isn't.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 14, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

... I wish Fed-Ex field was a more intimidating environment.

Posted by: 72Redskins | July 14, 2009 2:34 PM

By around half time, the beer effects on trash talking and swearing in general scare me away from taking a kid there.

Posted by: dcsween | July 14, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

cindyboren

"...I have to say that the jibba and the jabba up here in mid-July is an outstanding read..."

Ya, sure.

BTW: is there any of that cake left from La Canfora's going away party?

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 14, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Mason retires in Baltimore. What do you think about trading ARE to Baltimore for Cedric Peerman?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | July 14, 2009 2:38 PM

I don't disagree that ARE has trade value, but I don't think RB/KR are as much a need as SLB.

I'd offer ARE and one of the rotational DTs (Montgomery, Golston or Alexander) for a healthy starter-ready SLB. [I say that thinking that ARE's contract might make him untradeable.]

Posted by: dcsween | July 14, 2009 2:51 PM | Report abuse

... I wish Fed-Ex field was a more intimidating environment

Only thing that intimidated me last year was the fear of the trashed 20 year old beside me. The thought of being vomited on by a comatose teenager strikes fear in me. The funny thing was he asked if I was a REAL Redskins fan, while insisting Champ Bailey was still on the team.

Posted by: iH8dallas | July 14, 2009 2:51 PM | Report abuse

ITS OFFICIAL, WJFK will be an all sports radio station come Monday. They will have LaVar Arrington as the afternoon drive guy and maybe Riggo at nights.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 14, 2009 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Moe! Noone! Nate! Sween! Talent! Etrod! Shuttle! The jibba is outstanding...seriously. Any moment now, a discussion of summer ales will break out. No LaCakefora remains, sadly. Maese is going through Post orientation, the mayor is taking care of Maya and Joshua while Tenecia recovers. He'll be BHGO when camp starts.

Posted by: CindyBoren | July 14, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

72redksins

"We can't afford to lose to teams like that this year."

So true.

Part of the reason the cards made the playoffs last year is they played a relatively easy schedule.

It always seems like the 'cinda-rella' football team gets to the playoffs after a season of beating up on NFL cream puffs.

Check out the final month (Nov. 29 thru Jan 6th) of the skins' schedule:

iggles

saints

raiders

jints

cowboys

chargers

We'll have to finish 4-2 to get to the playoffs, and that's very doable.


Posted by: MistaMoe | July 14, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Gawd! Riggins on the radio again? If they have to put him on, put him on the 9 o'clock slot, or whatever late slot they have in radio.

Posted by: RedDMV | July 14, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

ITS OFFICIAL, WJFK will be an all sports radio station come Monday. They will have LaVar Arrington as the afternoon drive guy and maybe Riggo at nights.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 14, 2009 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Riggo at nights?

They've commited to a format change without confirming they have a night guy? Ah well, these things tend to work themselves out.

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 14, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Samuel Adams Cherry Wheat Ale is the bomb!

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 14, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of Summer Ales, my top brewery Saranac has a great Lager and Lemon-aid Summer special. Not only is it an excellent beer, but it makes an amazing meat marinade and simmer sauce.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 14, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

2nd: Totally agree. I want to see how the jints' offense functions without D Ward and P Burress.

...........

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 14, 2009 2:42 PM |

Don't forget Amani Toomer (In Ahnold's voice). He always seemed to show up and burn us for a TD once a year. Remember last year's in the ST21 Midfield Logo Game?

Who did he burn for that one?

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 14, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Nights, I think is six or seven to nine.

JaLaCa for nights!

Posted by: alex35332 | July 14, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

I'll be at the Saints game.. have a friend who is a huge Saints fan, although I can't recall her rooting for them pre '06 -- the Reggie "Bust" factor, I guess.

psps roll call...

Posted by: RedDMV | July 14, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

I drove down for the dallas game last year, and the girlfriend/boyfriend combo next to me were demanding that someone wearing dallas colors fight them.....they were the only one's in the section I was in, 114, that were drunk, everyone else was pretty much stone cold sober..which was nice as it lent itself to actual conversations....instead of drunken fight starting...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 14, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

I honestly believe that La Canfora will be good on the radio with his own show and all.

Posted by: RedDMV | July 14, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse

It was Smoooooot who got burnt by the 35 yr old.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 14, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse

I had some white trash trying to pick a fight with an O's fan at a nats game when they were playing the Braves...
And yes alcohol was involved.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 14, 2009 3:04 PM | Report abuse

And ... yo Alex, Red and Beantown. Alex, do you get that beer around here?

Posted by: CindyBoren | July 14, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

rickroge

"...I don't think anyone in the NFC east is light years ahead of Skins..."

Beg to differ.

I've only followed one pro football team my whole life--the Washington Redskins.

But the honest football fan in me admits that the NFC East has a definate leader: the iggles.

They have q-back who makes plays in D McNabb, added a big running back in LeSean McCoy to complement Westbrook, and added a speed demon at wideout in J Maclin to play alongside D Jackson.

They re-built their o-line and still have a balla defense.

Yes: we beat them twice last year. But they went on to barely lose the NFC Championship to a team that just barely lost the Super Bowl.

The iggles are not light years' ahead of us, but are sure closer to the promiseland than we are.

Posted by: MistaMoe | July 14, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

I honestly believe that La Canfora will be good on the radio with his own show and all.

Posted by: RedDMV | July 14, 2009 3:03 PM

So you haven't heard him on 1370 talkin Ravens/MLS/Caps and The Euro League?

I thought you were similar to me. That SJK was boring than a moe.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 14, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

I hate the "fans" and I use that term loosely, that show up to FedEx acting like it's a 90000 person capacity bar. I actually enjoy watching the entire game sober. I can scream and root for my squad without the courage juice. But nothing beats seeing the drunk moron climbing over the seats take a dive. Sec 412 (it happens everytime)

Posted by: iH8dallas | July 14, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

MistaMoe, my tea leaves say that the Saints are going to be very strong this year, esp. b/c Grilliams has all the pieces of a defense he's been salivating for, plus an offense that doesn't think its supersmart and guts out football to repeatedly go 3 and out plus a shank from Frost.

Posted by: dcsween | July 14, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

I remember I went to game at FedEx and the dude next to me (who was beyond sauced) grabbed me and started singing along with Al Green's "Lets Stay Together".

Why do they play that song anyway?

Never understood the link betwwen drinking and fighting. I'm really chill when drinking.

Posted by: RedDMV | July 14, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Romo can hold for PATs now. Look out...

Posted by: ElYeah | July 14, 2009 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Cyndy, yes I did. right down at K street in the liquor store next to Lotus Lounge.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 14, 2009 3:10 PM | Report abuse

I also like beer.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | July 14, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

hey cindy, how's yah summah?? try tha chowdah....

dc, both starting saint DE's suspended for the first 4 games next year.

h8, agreement on that...some cat was so drunk after the game, he fell, wacked his head, and then got the ambulance treatment....in my world you reap what you sew......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 14, 2009 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Okay, seems like everybody is hell bent on saying that the Giants will struggle without Plex and Ward. But the bottom line is that they still have a great Oline, so if they give Eli enough time, he'll connect with the crappiest of Wr's. And the O line will open up holes for anybody they put back there. So I don't see the Giants struggling too much.

Posted by: ga8085 | July 14, 2009 3:13 PM | Report abuse

MistaMoe - I would have thought you were an Eagles fan by that rosy assesment you just gave.

They have 2/3 new pieces on the OLine and we don't know if they will mesh.

The 2 new offensive weapons are rookies, so there's no gaurentee they will contribute this year.

You act like us beating them twice soundly doesn't say much just loike McNabb said they were the better team after both games...

Did you watch the NFC Championship last season? If you did, you would know the Eagles had no answer to AZ's offense. The Cardinals beat those suckas sqaurly and fairly......

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 14, 2009 3:13 PM | Report abuse

nah, 4th. I haven't heard dude on the radio. I take it he's nothing special.

Ravens? Eh, could do without getting my breaking Ravens news.

MLS? I know you're bs'n.

Caps? They're a part of the DC pro teams. I got love for the Caps, but not enough to listen to Cap news on the way to work, or the way home.

The Euro League? Nay, nay, and nay.

If he did have his own show, he'd have to have guests on all the time to support him, which necessarily isn't a bad thing. And he could have anyone on there to discuss whatever corny topics that they more than likely discuss.

Posted by: RedDMV | July 14, 2009 3:16 PM | Report abuse

I have many Eagles fans in the family. No one in Philly thinks that McNabb can hit the broad side of a barn from more then 10 yards out.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 14, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

boost me with the Lotus Lounge, alex...

that place rocks.

Posted by: RedDMV | July 14, 2009 3:18 PM | Report abuse

4th, don't let your love for the Skins blind you to the competition. Looking at what Macklin brings to the table you have to predict he's going to be a player, McCoy as well. Philly's D may struggle a bit but if those pieces fit they are going to score points and overall they didn't have a lot of trouble scoring last season.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | July 14, 2009 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Lotus is a crazy place and I love the atmosphere, they need a better beer list for me to drop in there regularly.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 14, 2009 3:22 PM | Report abuse

... I actually enjoy watching the entire game sober. ...

Posted by: iH8dallas | July 14, 2009 3:07 PM

I'm a fairly passive drunk, and I figure I can pay attention until I get cross eyed ... my primary problem is that, somehow, these screaming morons have gotten (and stay) drunk at FedEx beer prices.

Posted by: dcsween | July 14, 2009 3:23 PM | Report abuse

I like the game best on my HDTV with a wide selection of beer and food at my disposal. And the only loud annoying drunk is me.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 14, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

he fell, wacked his head, and then got the ambulance treatment ... in my world you reap what you sew ....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 14, 2009 3:12 PM

Sounds like they had to sew what he ripped.

Posted by: dcsween | July 14, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Giving sween a rimshot for that. Badupm Pshhhh.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 14, 2009 3:30 PM | Report abuse

al, agreed, sometimes my couch seems like the best spot to watch.

lh, you sound like an eagles fan, so Macklin is a rookie wr, who is gonna be a player....because rookie wide-outs always step right in and have no issues....wait don't we have some very recent experience with that??

also aren't macklin and jackson pretty much the same size?? and they lost LJ Smith as well.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 14, 2009 3:30 PM | Report abuse

I'll just reference my previous rants here on FedHEX field. Sssooo not a cool stadium. My bias, though is the Orange Bowl... so you know where I'm comin' from.

Good news about WJFK. I'll listen some. I am a bit of a LaVar fan, even though he's a Lion. I'll forgive.. hehe.

And on CynCyty's beer tip - I had to pick up some Gennessee Cream Ale for the poker boys last nite. Didn't drink any, but they sure liked it. I had some Sierra Nevada IPA. 'twas nice.

Though, I like Fredrick, MD's Wild Goose line of beers. Bought a mixed 12 pack & enjoyed the Brown, Stout, IPA and regular Ale. A little better price point than Sam & micro-brew quality! (like the Sam alot too, tho...)

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 14, 2009 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Beer, TheCindy, and radio jibba jabba all at once!? Count me in...

Posted by: 4-12 | July 14, 2009 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Does sound like an afternoon well spent, don't it 4-12?

I'll sully it by posting a pic of Toby at about 6 months... hahaha

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o292/shuttledik/100_5907.jpg

Oh & GA - I don't think the Gints will drop off too much (I HOPE they do tho!!). I'm not sold on tha Iggles at all.

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 14, 2009 3:42 PM | Report abuse

As I said before McNabb is due for another week 4 or 5 season ending sports hernia. What is the difference between a sports hernia and regular hernia anywasy?

Posted by: iH8dallas | July 14, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

BG, just commence to calling me an Eagles fan they way you continue to call dealer a Lions fan. My apologies for having an opinion about an opponent that doesn't denigrate them.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | July 14, 2009 3:46 PM | Report abuse

I swear every year they gas the Eagles and Panthers in the NFC, and the Chargers in the AFC.

Almost every year, they do sh*t.

I don't get the constant love fest over the Eagles.

Eagles = Redskins = Cowboys

NY Giants stand alone in the NFC East as of right now.

Posted by: RedDMV | July 14, 2009 3:46 PM | Report abuse

I also like beer.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | July 14, 2009 3:11 PM

Wow! The stuff you can learn about a guy in the off-season: Nate virtually comes out of the closet to admit that he likes beer. All along he's been faking it, claiming to be a Grey Goose Martini guy.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | July 14, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

A sports hernia comes form being overrated and dumb arrogant.

McNabb said twice in defeat that he thought the Eagles were better than the Redskins. = Dumb Arrogance

Every year the national media crowns the Eagles as the team to watch for, and McNabb as the player that could have a surprising year. = Overrated

Posted by: RedDMV | July 14, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

i like goose...

Posted by: RedDMV | July 14, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

LH - Since when do we give the nod to an NFL team who had promising rookies? NEVER. This is the NFL and I don't understand why everyone is on the Eagles' sack because they added a rookie WR and RB???

AND, the lost 2 leaders on Defense - Dawkins and the DC......

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 14, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

At the house with a 12 pack of Heineken is the best spot to watch the game. Especially if were beating the Eagles, and my sisters fiance(from Philly) has to put up with my dad and me.

Posted by: iH8dallas | July 14, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

lh, 2 things:

$. Deal is a lions fan, go to the Detroit Free press, and check out the lions blog, he posts under the name, "ilikewomensclotheslionsfan"...

IIIII. lighten up....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 14, 2009 3:57 PM | Report abuse

I like to drink in front of my HDTV AND at Redskins Field........

I am usually feeling it really really good, but am totally cognizent of everything around me. Never starts a fight unless it comes to me. I'm a 15 yr vet in the game.....

There's nothing wrong woth drinking. Those people refenced above gives us a bad name......

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 14, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

I'm convinced. The Skins are going to win the division by default because the other three teams are awful.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | July 14, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Mark my words Eagles go 6-10 this year.

Posted by: iH8dallas | July 14, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

IIIII. lighten up....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 14, 2009 3:57 PM

This is classic. I think I'll have it framed.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | July 14, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

There's nothing wrong woth drinking. Those people refenced above gives us a bad name......

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 14, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

I love to drink as well, it's the morons that handle it like colege freshmen that suck.

Posted by: iH8dallas | July 14, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

yeah sorry about that, rookies always DOMINATE, especially Wide-outs....hasn't someone posted the stats to back up that Jason Peters was one of the worst, if not the worst offensive tackle in the nfl last year??

mccoy and macklin, co-rookies of the year.......championship......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 14, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

I love to drink as well, it's the morons that handle it like colege freshmen that suck.

Posted by: iH8dallas | July 14, 2009 4:03 PM

That's exactly what I was thinking when I wrote my last statement........

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 14, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

4th, I think you're the first person who's ever referred to that building as Redskins Field. I kind of like the sound of it. Old-fashionedy.

I'm just praying for a brief NFL work stoppage next season (or whenever) so the Skins can go 3-3 in Super Bowls played after work stoppages.

F the Cowboys, F the Giants, F the Eagles, in that order. Even though Old School might remind us that all three of those teams are ahead of the Skins in the critical "head coach + QB" department... though with the Cowboys, it seems pretty close.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | July 14, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

I'm convinced. The Skins are going to win the division by default because the other three teams are awful.

Posted by: learnedhand1


I mean, can this happen for real? 'cause it'll be off the chain if it really could...

Posted by: RedDMV | July 14, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Who said championship? Who said rookies would DOMINATE a little much less always? Contribute I believe they well.
You're a master at overstating someone else's position.
And you're telling me to lighten up.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | July 14, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Just thought I would reiterate.

On another note the Cowboys D does look intimidating with the blockbuster signing of Keith Brooking

Posted by: iH8dallas | July 14, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

My experience tells me that alcohol only enhances one's personality. The only thing worse than an A-hole is a drunk A-hole.

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 14, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

I love tequila!

Posted by: noonefromtampa | July 14, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

yeah, iH8, 6-10, 7-9, hell 8-8 sounds about right.

i'm saying, what is it with the eagles, chargers, and panthers as the trendy pick every year?

Carolina will probably have a good year then bomb out in the playoffs. Delhomme is still their QB, right?

Posted by: RedDMV | July 14, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Look, I don't see the team going 7-9 wins this season. Either they are going to go all out go 11 wins and a deep playoff run or they will melt down and get a top 4 pick in the first.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 14, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

4th, I think you're the first person who's ever referred to that building as Redskins Field. I kind of like the sound of it. Old-fashionedy.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | July 14, 2009 4:11 PM

I meant to say Redskins' Stadium. That's the accurate name. I usually use that as opposed to FedEx Field, which is also accurate......

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 14, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Looking at what Macklin brings to the table you have to predict he's going to be a player, McCoy as well.

again.....lighten up....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 14, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Look at Carolina's history. After every good year they stink it up.

I live in North Carolina and I HATE the Panthers. They knock the Skins out of local broadcast. They don't even have any fans down here. Go to any sports bar and it's bandwagon Steelers fans , Skins fans and 1 or 2 Panthers fans.Assuming they have won 6 games by week 8.

Posted by: iH8dallas | July 14, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

The only thing worse than an A-hole is a drunk A-hole.

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 14, 2009 4:18 PM

Explains my best friend to a T. I just could never put my finger on it!

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 14, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

y'all smell that?

i smell beef cookin'...

indeed, football isn't too far away now!

get the deep fryers ready...

Posted by: RedDMV | July 14, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

I had a comment on the radio front about how I get a little taste of hell on earth when I happen to be in the car during the time slot when Colin Cowherd is on one of Portland's sports talk stations and Jim Rome is on the other. It's like choosing between a plate of poop and a bucket of pee. I call them "single-mike shows" because they each consist chiefly of one insufferable guy talking to and about himself. Ugh and ugh.

So I was surprised Portland could sustain two sports talk stations... how many will DC have now that JFK joins the fray?

(And congrats to Mike Wise for getting a show in the new JFK lineup. He's really grown on me, that Mike Wise. I still think he's smirking in that head shot, though, and it still rankles me a bit).

Posted by: NateinthePDX | July 14, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

"plate of poop and a bucket of pee"

thats some funny stuff right there....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 14, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

I love tequila!

Posted by: noonefromtampa | July 14, 2009 4:19 PM |

You have a lot in common with Curzon. And with two thirds of the rest of us.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | July 14, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Does dealer really like the Lions? That doesn't sound like him ... I thought he was long time DC local (angling to get himself out of San Diego).

I predict the Lions will win a game in the first month of the season, and maybe even a division game, but I think that ship will take a while to turn ... and they need to get out of that stadium (and off the turf) to compete in that division. I read an interesting Q & A with Aaron Rodgers in this month's Sporting News where he was talking about how people don't realize what an advantage the Packers have to be an outdoor-ready team in Green Bay weather. [Turns out he is also best pals with former Skins punter wannabe, David Lonie.]

Posted by: dcsween | July 14, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I had a comment on the radio front about how I get a little taste of hell on earth when I happen to be in the car during the time slot when Colin Cowherd is on one of Portland's sports talk stations and Jim Rome is on the other. It's like choosing between a plate of poop and a bucket of pee. I call them "single-mike shows" because they each consist chiefly of one insufferable guy talking to and about himself. Ugh and ugh.

Jim Rome is funny as hell.

Posted by: iH8dallas | July 14, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

deal is a huge lions fan.....ask him...he'll tell you as much

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 14, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

If the Dolphins can go from 1-15 to 11-5 in one season. The Lions can easily reach .500 or close to it. Scwartz has retolled over half the roster already, and they actually got good players from good teams this offseason.

Don't sleep on them Lions.....

(I tend to go against the grain of what Talking Heads spew on ESPN and NFLN because they are usually bandwagon following happy go lucky type fellas, save for Rod Woodson. History is on my side BTW)

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 14, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

We will all be sure not to sleep on the Lions.

Posted by: iH8dallas | July 14, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Sweeny - Dealer/Lions is a running joke between Bean/Deal.......

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 14, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

...with Bean doing all the running.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | July 14, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

I am prepared to sleep on the Bengals.

Posted by: dcsween | July 14, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

LOL!!, I've seen the stumbling, falling, and blabbering drunks at FedEX, but I want FedEX to be intimadating to the visiting team, not the fans.

With those high beer prices don't see how somebody can afford to get so drunk that they can hardly walk, must be swilling it in the lots before, or sneaking a flask in.

Moe, I see no problem with us going 4-2 in that stretch either, we shouldn't have any problem with the Raiders, should beat the Saints and if we lose 2 it'll be to one of our division foes.

We need to win more games at home, and establish a real home field advantage,(like back in the day at RFK) maybe the fans drunk out of their minds can turn their attention away from fellow fans and onto the visiting team on the field.

Posted by: 72Redskins | July 14, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

We play at the Lions in week three. I'm not sleeping on them until that game is over.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | July 14, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Moe, I see no problem with us going 4-2 in that stretch either, we shouldn't have any problem with the Raiders...
Posted by: 72Redskins | July 14, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

We shouldn't have any problems with them but this team tends to have problems with teams that it shouldn't have problems with.

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 14, 2009 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Nate likes beer? Whoa. Next you're going to tell me Michael Jackson died or something.

Posted by: CindyBoren | July 14, 2009 5:19 PM | Report abuse

I am prepared to sleep on the Bengals.

Posted by: dcsween | July 14, 2009 5:01 PM

I wouldn't sleep on the Bengals more than sleeping on the Lions. Palmer is back. Their OLine is retooled. They have a new DC who brought in some fresh faces. They have OchoCinco/LColes/and Chris Henry whose in a contract year.

I predict the bengals to win their division over the Steelers and Bmore. Lock it in and remember where you heard it 1st....

I forgot we play the Lions this year. We won't have a problem with them, per se, but I was talking about their season in general......

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 14, 2009 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Yep, etrod... I'm going to that game in Oakland, and just like the Lions game I'm not taking a victory for granted. Even though it feels like a game we should be able to take for granted. Nothing comes easily with this team.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | July 14, 2009 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Cindy, you'd better sit down. I don't know how to say this. I've... I've got some bad news for you, dear...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | July 14, 2009 5:24 PM | Report abuse

That pretty much covers what I got for offseason jibba peeps, as in, I'm back to the proverbial "I got nothin" department. Hasta.

Posted by: dcsween | July 14, 2009 5:28 PM | Report abuse

The way the lions played us(or the way we played them) I'm not sleeping on them or the Raiders this year. Don't think we can afford to sleep on anybody, this team needs to bring their A game every week, coaches and players.

They need to play with a killer instinct from the opening kickoff, till the final whistle.

Posted by: 72Redskins | July 14, 2009 5:28 PM | Report abuse

What Nate? Did you stop liking beer?

Posted by: noonefromtampa | July 14, 2009 5:30 PM | Report abuse

noone, that was my lame followup to Cyn City's Michael Jackson joke.

I am not now, nor have I ever been, a member of the not-liking-beer party.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | July 14, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

OMG is MJ still dead? I have not seen anything in the news about him today. (Nor have I looked either)

Posted by: noonefromtampa | July 14, 2009 5:49 PM | Report abuse

noone, whaddya think of the local team down there? I want to believe the rumors of their demise, but on the other hand they always seem to give us trouble (a pox on you, Errict Rhett!). We'll see them in week four, at our place, Redskins Field.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | July 14, 2009 6:01 PM | Report abuse

I love CIndy but why in God's name are we blogging about Jessica Simpson and Romo?? There must be other things to talk about...like I heard 89's 30th bday party at Current was off the hook. Oh, and I'm playing golf with Rock next week, can't wait.

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | July 14, 2009 6:03 PM | Report abuse

LMG, surely you're aware of the theory that Jessica Simpson was the Kryptonite to Romo's Superman. If that's the case, we Redskins fans should be very, very afraid.

You mean Rock Cartwright? You're playing golf with Rock Cartwright? Could you ask him a multi-part question for me: whether he is able to return punts, and if so, whether he thinks he could consistently get us about ten yards a return?

I'm in the camp that would like to see him doing on punt returns what he does on kick returns -- giving us solid, dependable, if not spectacular results -- though I will acknowledge they are different skills...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | July 14, 2009 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Actually, I got somethin. After intervening communications, dealer does not and never had liked the Lions. Not that he isn't certifiably crazy, but Lions appreciation is not one of the bases for any such diagnosis.

Back to got nothin status.

Posted by: dcsween | July 14, 2009 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Nate, a little while back, there was some article or quotes somewhere from Rock explaining how returning kicks is completely different from returning punts. I don't think it was here, but I read it somewhere.

Posted by: dcsween | July 14, 2009 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Well, doggone it, who's going to be the Lions guy up here then, sween?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | July 14, 2009 6:20 PM | Report abuse

mistamoe: "But the honest football fan in me admits that the NFC East has a definate leader: the iggles.They have q-back who makes plays in D McNabb, added a big running back in LeSean McCoy to complement Westbrook, and added a speed demon at wideout in J Maclin to play alongside D Jackson.They re-built their o-line and still have a balla defense.Yes: we beat them twice last year. But they went on to barely lose the NFC Championship to a team that just barely lost the Super Bowl."

They have something in common with the Cards -- both were flawed teams that got hot at season's end (in AZ's case, in the playoffs).

The Igs started 5-3, then went 4-3-1, including losses to the Skins, Jints, and a bad loss to the Ravens. Their wins included a smackdown of the Cards 48-20. McNabb was actually benched at one point, remember. Then in the playoffs they gathered themselves to knock off the Vikes and the Jints before the loss at Arizona. Their 9-6-1 record was nothing to write home about, unless you were a Washington or Dallas fan. They finished 3rd in total defense, 9th in offense.

Philly's a team in transition, as a lot of folks have pointed out here. They've had about as much turnover as the Skins.

Posted by: Samson151 | July 14, 2009 6:26 PM | Report abuse

sween, my thing on punt returns was maybe LMG, as a close personal friend and golf buddy, could goose Rock a bit on the punt thing. Like, c'mon, Rock, you could really help us all out if you'd just add this one thing to the many important jobs you already do so well for us. You can do it, baby. Yes, you can!

Posted by: NateinthePDX | July 14, 2009 6:30 PM | Report abuse

...just to keep his friend ARE from embarrassing himself any more on punt returns, you know...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | July 14, 2009 6:33 PM | Report abuse

A couple of items from this lamo blog:

1. " ... did I mention I love the DMV?" The most evil institution of government ever perpetrated on mankind. Tommy J - dude, you thought King George was an despotic tyrant - try standing in an immovable DMV line sometime, rubbing shoulders with the unwashed fart machines of the planet.

2. "RIP, Tessica. Tony Romo and Jessica Simpson are a couple no more." Geezus. It took the T man this long to figure out that there is more to life than double D's.

3. "I can gain weight really easy so keeping it off is a challenge lol...I love good food" - what tipped off the T man that maybe Jesso was not the gallo for himo.

4. " ... Derrick Mason. Has he retired?" Think so. Saw the dude rollin on Goodyear foties yeaterday and today they was Bridgestone.

Posted by: DukeNewkem | July 14, 2009 7:29 PM | Report abuse

I'm more interested in hearing more adventures of Captain Chaos and his ex-cheerleader wife ... along with "Poncho" and his Nawleans style cat-on-a-hot-tin roof wife.

Who cares about Jessica Rabbit and Bromo seltzer?

Posted by: periculum | July 14, 2009 7:45 PM | Report abuse

I'm just praying for a brief NFL work stoppage next season (or whenever) so the Skins can go 3-3 in Super Bowls played after work stoppages.

Posted by: NateinthePDX

Yeah, but the first two times it happened, we had a couple of guys named Gibbs and Bethard that prepped for the inevitable...especially during the '87 "scab" games. We have no such genius in the house now.

Posted by: tripz | July 14, 2009 7:50 PM | Report abuse

periculum: I hear you're not getting nun ... how would you like to twisted sister?

Posted by: DukeNewkem | July 14, 2009 7:50 PM | Report abuse

noone, whaddya think of the local team down there? I want to believe the rumors of their demise, but on the other hand they always seem to give us trouble (a pox on you, Errict Rhett!). We'll see them in week four, at our place, Redskins Field.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | July 14, 2009 6:01 PM

They have new schemes on both offense and defense. There has been significant roster turnover. Leftwich or the rookie for starting QB. Running game should be good with Graham and Ward. O-line decent and young. Big question is the defense... Ronde is still there but Brooks is gone and they moved a safety to fill his spot. Secondary looks to good but not great. Front 7 a big question, Ruud is good MLB but the defense is going to be way different. So with all the changes meeting them early is probably a good thing.

Posted by: noonefromtampa | July 14, 2009 8:30 PM | Report abuse

bleep...bleep...bleep...doooooooooooooooooo


the blog is DOA

Posted by: noonefromtampa | July 14, 2009 9:45 PM | Report abuse

paddles

charge to 200

clear

Posted by: noonefromtampa | July 14, 2009 10:58 PM | Report abuse

lol, what up with FOX not showing that Obama pitch thru and thru? Of all TV stations, I'd expect F(*ck)O(ff)X to show that footage. It would've been great for their constant media war against Barack Hussein Obama.

Dumb fu**ers...

I guess, maybe Obama was on his LeBron?

No way if he tanked that pitch, the government was going to let the press get at him for that. Obama is the government. And, don't we appreciate our government for their utmost regard for national security?

Even if it is a cover-up.

Obama telecast of pitch = interest of national security

Look if one of the axis of terror gets their hands on that potential Carl Lewis lookin' pitch, we're short...

So far, this is the only one up Bush has on Obama. You always saw the real view of W's pitches. He was indeed a good ol' boy.

Shout out to the GOP puppet George W. Bush. For real...

Posted by: RedDMV | July 15, 2009 12:06 AM | Report abuse

I bet Hall puts an electric comforter on ya boy Eddie Royal this time around, Cork.--REDDMV

Sigh, alas "eddie Royal" is not "ya boy." Nope, we got Devin Thomas.

As I said in my earlier post, DH is saying all the right things. Certainly, when motivated he's a major talent. Every indication is he will be this year. Let's hope so.

Posted by: TheCork | July 15, 2009 1:34 AM | Report abuse

Moe! Noone! Nate! Sween! Talent! Etrod! Shuttle! ...

Posted by: CindyBoren | July 14, 2009 2:52 PM |

Nurse Jackie was right. She told me that life was full of little pricks.

Posted by: DukeNewkem | July 15, 2009 2:24 AM | Report abuse

lol, what up with FOX not showing that Obama pitch thru and thru? Of all TV stations, I'd expect F(*ck)O(ff)X to show that footage. It would've been great for their constant media war against Barack Hussein Obama.

Dumb fu**ers...
Posted by: RedDMV | July 15, 2009 12:06 AM | Report abuse

Don't worry, MSNBC will have a 2 hour handjob...uh, special on the training program he used to get in shape to throw it.

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 15, 2009 6:41 AM | Report abuse

Just like your behind, right Duke?

Posted by: DikShuttle | July 15, 2009 8:07 AM | Report abuse

But nothing beats seeing the drunk moron climbing over the seats take a dive. Sec 412 (it happens everytime)

Posted by: iH8dallas | July 14, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

That 20-yr old drunk, was that during the Rams game? I was in 412 for 4 games last year, got a new section this year, but if so, I remember that guy. He had two friends carrying him down the stairs as I was going up, and he tried to get into it with me. I had on a Gator shirt and he thought I was a Rams fan. And yes, I had on a Gator a shirt. That is crazy though, as soon as I saw your post and him asking if you were a real Redskins fan, that guy popped into my head. HE kept asking me even as his friends dragged him away.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | July 15, 2009 8:09 AM | Report abuse

Yikes, way, way too early for politico jibba-jabba.

When is the supplemental draft??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 15, 2009 8:11 AM | Report abuse

when you're drunk enough, gators start to look like rams....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 15, 2009 8:13 AM | Report abuse

Yikes, way, way too early for politico jibba-jabba.

When is the supplemental draft??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 15, 2009 8:11 AM | Report abuse

You're right, i was just pointing out that the slant works both ways.

Political Jibba Jabba off.

I remember seeing a drunkard trying to race his buddy down the steps at the end of a game about 12 years ago. He thought it would be quicker to hop over the seats. He tumbled over about 8 rows and landed right at my feet. He stood up, blood gushing from his forehead, and said "life's a b*#%h" and went on his way. Classic.

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 15, 2009 8:27 AM | Report abuse

"life's a b*#%h" and went on his way. Classic.

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 15, 2009 8:27 AM | Report abuse

That is the beauty of alcohol, he gets to wait a day to feel the pain.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | July 15, 2009 9:04 AM | Report abuse

call it....time of death....9:20, July 15th......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 15, 2009 9:20 AM | Report abuse

That is the beauty of alcohol, he gets to wait a day to feel the pain.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | July 15, 2009 9:04 AM

What should have been a forgettable college party is one of my most memorable. Started drinking circa 4pm, turned the corner early coming down a dark stairwell around 7pm, continued partying till past midnight (people telling me I was walking funny ... "yeah, well YER funny too!"), woke up the next morning with a hangover like Kennedy in Dallas and the excruciating pain of a fractured ankle bone. Ah, good times ...

Posted by: dcsween | July 15, 2009 9:27 AM | Report abuse

Halloween party in 2005. Sprained ACL. No idea how it happened.

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 15, 2009 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Agree. HAll posses the swagger that CR22 and Smooot wish they had. It's not too late for Los, though. They should be good for each other.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 14, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

I'm pretty sure I understand what you're saying. But still, Smoot has plenty of swagger. It's just that his actual abilities are mediocre, at best.

Posted by: CDon | July 15, 2009 9:33 AM | Report abuse

"But the honest football fan in me admits that the NFC East has a definate leader: the iggles."

Ah YES, The Eagles!! They added the greatest offensive tackle in the history of the NFL to ever lead the league in sacks allowed; they have by far the most dangerous under-1000 yard, 2 TD WR in the game; undoubtedly they're better off losing the least useful current pro-bowl, future HOF safety in the league; they're most valuable asset (another HOF-candidate and defensive coordinator, Jim Johnson) is currently on indefinite leave as he battles cancer (all best wishes to him); their most dangerous weapon (Westbrook) finished last season with career lows in yards per catch, yards per carry, rushing yards since he became a starter, receiving yards since his second year in the league, was forced to miss games due to injury for the 7th consecutive season, and enters this season as the oldest running back in the division; and, surprise surprise, will be relying two skill-position rookies to take them to the next level (sound familiar?).

Add those things to their domineering 9-win season last year, and what honest football fan wouldn't think they're the clear leaders right now?

Posted by: psps23 | July 15, 2009 9:43 AM | Report abuse

damn you psp, and your well thought out, and factual logic.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | July 15, 2009 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Los and Hall are gonna be Fire and Ice for this team at DB. I have a good feeling

You wanna throw it at the ice, that ball is either gonna probably end up bouncing around on the turf. Throw it at fire, sure maybe it will get caught but maybe it will get caught and go the other way.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 15, 2009 9:52 AM | Report abuse

CDon - Naw. I am talking about that swagger on the field that a DB needs to posses. I think you get that by proving yourself with a couple of INTs and few good run backs, possibly for TDs. Which DHall has done throughout his carrer, save for the 8 games @ Oakland.....

No one is scared of Smoot. And QBs aren't scared of Los, though I am sure th WR are....

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 15, 2009 10:00 AM | Report abuse

I def think Rogers is a better cover guy than Hall. Hall has big play ability, though, which will get him more recognition and 'swaggar' than Rogers.

If Rogers could catch, he'd be an elite corner but without those picks, he's not going to get any respect.

Posted by: Original_etrod | July 15, 2009 10:06 AM | Report abuse

O_E thats why I called them fire and Ice.

Posted by: alex35332 | July 15, 2009 10:26 AM | Report abuse

HAynesworth is no longer the highest paid Defensive Players....


"Suggs deal better than Haynesworth's?
Posted by Mike Florio on July 15, 2009 9:55 AM
Though the contract signed by defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth with the Redskins on the first morning of free agency widely has been described as a $100 million contract, it accurately has been analyzed, for practical purposes, as a four-year, $48 million deal. (In year five, Haynesworth is due to earn $29 million in salary and bonuses -- at a time when he will be 32 years old.)

Under that standard, Ravens defensive end/linebacker Terrell Suggs actually did a better deal.

Per a league source, here's how Suggs' payout over the first four years on his brand-new contract compares to Haynesworth's.

In year one, Suggs gets $15.1 million and Haynesworth gets $11 million.

Through two years, Suggs gets $40 million and Haynesworth receives $35.6 million.

After three, Suggs will have pocketed $43.4 million, with Haynesworth only (only?) getting $41 million.

And after four seasons, Suggs will end up with $200,000 more than Haynesworth -- $48.3 million versus $48.1 million.

Both deals are great. But the reality is that Suggs is every bit as good, and actually a little bit better, than Haynesworth's"

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 15, 2009 10:28 AM | Report abuse

beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep

Posted by: alex35332 | July 15, 2009 10:31 AM | Report abuse

CDon - Naw. I am talking about that swagger on the field that a DB needs to posses. I think you get that by proving yourself with a couple of INTs and few good run backs, possibly for TDs. Which DHall has done throughout his carrer, save for the 8 games @ Oakland.....

No one is scared of Smoot. And QBs aren't scared of Los, though I am sure th WR are....

Posted by: 4thFloor | July 15, 2009 10:00 AM | Report abuse

And I agree with all of that. I was just looking at the word "swagger" from a strict definitional standpoint. We all know Smoot is a boastful, egotistical fellow. He is the definition of swagger in its strictest terms. And you're right, of course, that Smoot doesn't have swagger on the field. That is unless you ask him.

Posted by: CDon | July 15, 2009 10:37 AM | Report abuse

pretty weak that whoever is running redskins insider these days hasn't posted about our new DE jarmon we just drafted with our 3rd rounder

Posted by: mopp04 | July 16, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

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