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Twitter's No Trouble in Ashburn

The Green Bay Packers may have put the kibosh on player twittering by fining them $1,701 for every tweet they send during an official function, but the Redskins have no plans to do so.

"I'm just trying to catch up with 'blog.' I haven't quite got to Twitter yet," Coach Jim Zorn told Rick Maese, when he asked about the growing phenomenon of NFL players twittering. "I've been to email, got that down. I've been to text, got that down. I now know what blog is. I got that down. I haven't got to Twitter yet. That's probably one of the major changes that's happened with the information highway, if you will, and opinions.

"It used to be that you'd interview me, ask the questions and I'd give you the answers. Now people don't ask the questions. Someone will just blog their opinion or Twitter their opinion. I think that's a tough way to figure out the real information. I think there's a lot of blogging - a lot of, 'here's what I think...' - and that suddenly becomes the story without it really being based in anything that's really going on."

By Cindy Boren  |  August 3, 2009; 3:12 PM ET
 
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Posted by: isnadd | August 3, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Zorn should like Twitter. No pornography. Not that I would know, anyway. Alex? CL? Help me out.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 3, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

If they start coming down on players for twittering and blogging then chris cooley will end up playing for free.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 3, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

To honor the content of the post and give the hamsters something else to spin the wheel about:

Twitter is to technology
what
[insert player here] is to the NFL

1-2-3 - GO

Posted by: sfskin | August 3, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

And why is a post about Twitting put out on a blog and not on a Twit, CB?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 3, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

I dunno T_E. I am against Twitter, but I think you are right.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 3, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

My first response:

Twitter is to technology
what
Jeff George(the horror . . the horror) is to the NFL

Posted by: sfskin | August 3, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

If f'n Gandhi was to take over the blog, some will still find SOMETHING negative to say.
Posted by: RedDMV | August 3, 2009 10:24 AM

That would be me. I'd say "We deserve a better blogger than a dead Indian whose only sport was cricket."
Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 3, 2009 10:30 AM |

---------------------
Talent, that was funny. I still think you are an a-hole, but that was funny. I'm letting you back in the circle of trust, for now.

Posted by: isnadd | August 3, 2009 10:44 AM |

A couple of comments about this.

1. Why hold being dead against him? Over half this blog is brain dead, including you two turkeys.

2. Why hold being an Indian against him? It's the team's icon that is on their helmets and you would think that with all the controversey over the "Redskin" nickname you would want as many Indians posting on this blog and showing support for this team as you could get.

3. "Talent, that was funny." Mebbe. But not even half as funny as your lamo sarcasm.

Posted by: TalkToTheHand | August 3, 2009 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Twitter is to technology
what
Jeff George(the horror . . the horror) is to the NFL

Posted by: sfskin | August 3, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

So when does Dan Snyder pay 2 billion to buy twitter.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 3, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

I realize I'm about to sound even more ridiculous than usual but looking at training camp photos I got a huge smile on my face because of Chris Horton . . .I forgot about him .. . .I know what's wrong with me . . .but I love that guy.

Posted by: sfskin | August 3, 2009 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Say the Skins run 30 rushes a game. 480 per year. We know the boogeyman number is 370 carries in a year and we'd like to stay far away from that. Say Portis at 300-320 carries. Assuming all the rest are Betts that 160-180 for Betts. So how do you split them?

Method 1: Simply distribute evenly game to game.
Portis gets 18-20 carries, Betts 10-12 carries

Method 2: Split the feature back games, 12 feature games for Portis, 4 for Betts
Feature back: 23-25 carries, backup back: 5-7 carries

I think plan 2 would be more effective. The 'sharing' carries can work from time to time (Stewart and D. Williams in Carolina), but more often than not, you get less than the sum of the parts.

Posted by: zcezcest1

I could never twitter, I just don't know how to be concise.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 3, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

The redskins tweet blog is saying Haynesworth is not practicing again, same with Rogers.

Posted by: TWISI | August 3, 2009 3:57 PM | Report abuse

So when does Dan Snyder pay 2 billion to buy twitter.

Posted by: alex35332 | August 3, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Depends if Rupert Murdoch beats him to the tweet.

Posted by: sfskin | August 3, 2009 3:57 PM | Report abuse

my game plan if I am Zorny. Sit on your leads. Spell CP as much as you can and rotate in those RB's

Posted by: alex35332 | August 3, 2009 3:57 PM | Report abuse

If there's no porn on Twitter, does Cooley twitter?

Posted by: dpc2003 | August 3, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Did someone confuse "South Asian" with "Native American"?

Posted by: dpc2003 | August 3, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Method 1: Simply distribute evenly game to game.
Portis gets 18-20 carries, Betts 10-12 carries

Sounds about right, mebbe betts gets 12-15 per game...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 3, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

TalkToTheHand, scale it back just a little homie. I think t_e and isnadd were just having a little jokey-joke -- really not that serious.

True some people's humor is a little hard to digest at times, or simply understand for that matter. But it's RI, it what it is.

Conserve your rage. You'll need every ounce when the season comes...

Posted by: RedDMV | August 3, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Twitter is to technology
what
[Ickey Woods] is to the NFL.

A fad until something better replaces it.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | August 3, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

From Redskins.com, looks like a Rinehart sighting...

Moving On to 9-0n-9

Players seem to have fresh legs after getting the morning off.

* Good energy on the practice fields, and it shows up in 9-on-9 work.
* Malcolm Kelly pulls in a Jason Campbell pass along the left sideline for a nice gain.
* Campbell throws a beautiful deep ball downfield, Marques Hagans is open and races to catch up, but he can't hold on.
* Clinton Portis races to the right and finds a hole behind blocking by Stephon Heyer and Chad Rinehart.
* Devin Thomas pulls in a pass along the left sideline, and then cuts back inside and runs across field for yardage.
* Again, Heyer and Rinehart open up a lane good enough for Ladell Betts to find running room.
* Kelly is well-covered by Michael Grant, so Campbell scrambles left.

Posted by: Curzon417 | August 3, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully they run Portis until we are up by 2 scores and then let Betts get his while chewing up the clock.

Also hopefully Campbell gets 2-3 designed runs a game. Throw in a WR reverse every game or two. And lastly, you better get Sellars 2-3 rushes a game to keep the BIG MAN fed and happy!!

Posted by: mrlowery1 | August 3, 2009 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Z,

With Portis' ego, good luck naming Betts the starter for a given game to save Portis' legs.

I think a sound scenario might involve having Betts start the 2nd half on a regular basis. If he gets hot and we get a lead, ride Betts. If it stays tight, you're resting Portis for a 4th quarter surge and maybe a Riggo-like ball control display.

One other thing: playing Betts early in the 3rd quarter allows plenty of time to recover from his inevitable fumble...

Posted by: outsider6 | August 3, 2009 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Easy, Ricky. Don't wanna roll your eyes on the Zornster while you're asking him about Twitter. Hey, reporters, since you're not reporting anything of substance, why don't you also ask him what he thinks of the Twilight books. Oh, and the recession too.

Posted by: pgugino | August 3, 2009 4:22 PM | Report abuse

And lastly, you better get Sellars 2-3 rushes a game to keep the BIG MAN fed and happy!!

Posted by: mrlowery1

in that case, never give Sellers the ball. I'd prefer him hungry, angry and blocking rather than well fed, happy and running with it.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 3, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Two articles NOT done that should be: one on Orakpo, one on Jarmon.

Posted by: pgugino | August 3, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Two articles NOT done that should be: one on Orakpo, one on Jarmon.

Posted by: pgugino | August 3, 2009 4:24 PM

You're right. After four days of camp it's way overdue!

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 3, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Z,

With Portis' ego, good luck naming Betts the starter for a given game to save Portis' legs.

Posted by: outsider6

I think it could be sold to Portis -- but it'd have to been done during training camp. The result isn't less for Portis. Plus, telling CP that this is to keep him strong for a Decemebr run ... he'd understand.

The games I'd look to start Betts are ones where I think I'd want to throw to the backs more and/or games coming after short weeks or where back to back long road trips are involved.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 3, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Z,

"I think it could be sold to Portis -- but it'd have to been done during training camp. The result isn't less for Portis. Plus, telling CP that this is to keep him strong for a Decemebr run ... he'd understand."

With respect, I think you've got a whole different CP in mind. The Clinton Portis I know -- and I say this as a fan -- would not understand that notion one bit! "Hey Clinton, we're gonna start your understudy in today's big game 'cause we want you ready in December. Thanks for understanding, pal!"

Not a chance!

Posted by: outsider6 | August 3, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

There is def porn on twitter. One I of my accounts I follow Bree Olson. Nice!

Posted by: chrislarry | August 3, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

* Campbell throws a beautiful deep ball downfield, Marques Hagans is open and races to catch up, but he can't hold on.

Its nice of Campbell to throw to Marques Hagans (who??). But tell me please, why?? Campbell shouldn't be throwing to anyone who is projected outside of the top 6 WRs.

Let Collins Colt and Daniels (jeez ... didn't realize the alcoholic references associated with ALL our backup QBs) throw to Marques Hagans.

Campbell needs to throw pretty much every WR pass to Moss, ARE, Kelly, Thomas or Roydell (even if Roydell has a finger problem, he should still be running patterns). These are the guys he needs to get the timing down with. Not Marques Hagans.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 3, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Give Betts the ball at least 12-15 times per game, whether in screen passes or hand offs. We want CP to have strong legs for the last quarter of the season. If we are sitting on a lead, just sit CP and run it out with Betts.

Posted by: iH8dallas | August 3, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

With respect, I think you've got a whole different CP in mind. The Clinton Portis I know -- and I say this as a fan -- would not understand that notion one bit! "Hey Clinton, we're gonna start your understudy in today's big game 'cause we want you ready in December. Thanks for understanding, pal!"

Not a chance!

Posted by: outsider6 | August 3, 2009 4:33 PM

This is weird, Z. Every guy from the U would be beating on CP. "Whasa matta, bro? Done lost it? Sho thought you'd be goin' longer than this."

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 3, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

wow....just wow.

Posted by: chrislarry | August 3, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

And for God's sake a good way to keep CP rested: Air out the damn ball every once in a while , keep the opposing defense from having a convention at the line of scrimmage.

Posted by: iH8dallas | August 3, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

This is weird, Z. Every guy from the U would be beating on CP. "Whasa matta, bro? Done lost it? Sho thought you'd be goin' longer than this."

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 3, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

I didnt realize every guy from the U was unable to grasp the English language. ST21 would be proud.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | August 3, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

From Redskins.com's Gary Fitzgerald:

"Kelly is well-covered by Michael Grant, so Campbell scrambles left"

That is hard to find comforting.

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | August 3, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Just had to weigh in on the Twitter thing for a second and then I'll leave everyone to their regularly scheduled programming...

I have two ways that I use Twitter.

First, if you're someone of "importance" (could be a celebrity, though I don't care about them, or could be someone with industry expertise in something I do care about), tweeting links to articles or blog entries of importance to you is actually useful. I have spun up three businesses so far and am about to spin up a fourth soon. I find that reading tweets containing news articles, blog entries, or books with information for entrepreneurs is very helpful. I "follow" only those people whose opinions over time lend something of value to me. I stop "following" those people whose opinions either comprise an unacceptable signal:noise ratio or whose opinions have proven wrong a lot. So, I do appreciate when people who have something to say to my "community" of software developers, business executives, and entrepreneurs tweet. And ignoring the folks who have nothing to say is as easy as, say, ignoring my comment here if you don't find it valuable.

The second way I use Twitter is as a news feed. I subscribed to the CNN, ESPN, and (yes) Redskins Insider Twitter feeds so that important news shows up in my Twitter stream. I get very annoyed when reputable news organizations don't exercise a discriminating attitude to deciding what is and is not news. For example, "Paris Hilton has a new boyfriend" is not news, while "USAir 1549 has crash landed in the Hudson River" is.

Personally, I do not use Twitter for "lifecasting" or "microblogging" my personal life. I use Facebook for that. I like how Facebook gives me what I put into it. Like most people who use FB, I have an extended network of Facebook friends that includes former co-workers, high school buddies, college buddies, and even RI buddies. Facebook lets me keep up with what's going on in their life and let's me post what's going on in mine (though, my status updates are more of the "is drunk as heck and not going to take it anymore" variety). So, instead of scheduling a coffee date with someone who I want to keep a part of my life (work network, social network, etc.) but not to the extent that I want to dedicate an hour to them, I can simply participate with them on Facebook. Through my extended network, I've helped people find jobs, girlfriends, the good bar to be at right now, and ski buddies, just as my network has helped me find the same.

That's all I got today. Thank you for your time.

Posted by: PDiddy | August 3, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Gino Torreta would also like your apologies

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | August 3, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

With respect, I think you've got a whole different CP in mind. The Clinton Portis I know -- and I say this as a fan -- would not understand that notion one bit! "Hey Clinton, we're gonna start your understudy in today's big game 'cause we want you ready in December. Thanks for understanding, pal!"

Not a chance!

Posted by: outsider6

agree to disagree ... no one in football uses my approach ... so its not like I've got proof my concept is a good one ...

Part of my thinking process is impacted by something subtle. Offenses run about 65 plays per game. But most teams are limited to about 30 rushes because there is such a big difference between the #1 and #2 RB. Most teams wouldn't want their #2 back to carry the ball 15-20 times a game. And your #1 back can't go much above 20 carries per game (avg of 22 carries per game gets you right to the dreaded 370 carry mark)

What that means is that teams can't run the ball 40-45 times a game -- even if they have a good system for running the ball (interestingly, I think the jints would love to run 45 times a game -- eli isn't the sharpest QB to begin with and now has weak WRs on top of it). Most teams need to throw it 30+ times a game. If for no other reason, to preserve their RB.

So I've looked at the problem differently.

From the Skins perspective, 2009 is going to be another year of 'don't beat yourself'. It makes sense. We should have a very strong defense. If we have 10 points after 3 quarters, we'll still be close most games, even leading a number of times.

To me, that says run the ball. A lot. Which isn't much different from a few years back when I originally thought about how to run the ball a lot.

Which led to the idea of splitting the feature back role, by game.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 3, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

And I pretty sure I have called everyone up here a tard.....

Posted by: chrislarry | August 3, 2009 2:54 PM

Although I'm sure you've thought "tard" plenty while reading my posts, I think I've escaped it so far..

Posted by: 4-12 | August 3, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Which led to the idea of splitting the feature back role, by game.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 3, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

All of this is worthless if JC/Zorn isnt making the defense fear the pass. We can try to keep Portis fresh alot of ways, one is deferring carries, the other is to move the ball through the air to keep the defense honest. Last year, opposing teams only feared Moss and therefore could concentrate on the run.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | August 3, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

A few thoughts:

1. PDiddy makes me want to be a better poster.
2. Campbell is throwing to scrubs becuase when Colt takes over as starting QB we will still need JC to work with the scouting team offense during practice.
3. I also have a man crush on Chris Horton, there I said it.

Posted by: isnadd | August 3, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

isnadd, I find your thoughts undertstandable, alarming and more than acceptable, respectively. 2 out of 3 ain't bad

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | August 3, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

This is weird, Z. Every guy from the U would be beating on CP. "Whasa matta, bro? Done lost it? Sho thought you'd be goin' longer than this."

Posted by: talent_evaluator

doubt that would be an issue -- and it shouldn't matter. After all, CP would still get 300+ carries and a decent shot at 1,500 yards. Not many people would be taking shots at a guy with those numbers.

My thinking is a bit analogous to a baseball player getting a game off when a day game follows a night game. Heck, the SF Giants did that with Barry Bonds and I don't recall opposing pitchers taunting him over it ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 3, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: Curzon417 | August 3, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

If f'n Gandhi was to take over the blog, some will still find SOMETHING negative to say.

Posted by: RedDMV | August 3, 2009 10:24 AM

That would be me. I'd say "We deserve a better blogger than a dead Indian whose only sport was cricket."

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 3, 2009 10:30 AM |

---------------------
Talent, that was funny. I still think you are an a-hole, but that was funny. I'm letting you back in the circle of trust, for now.

Posted by: isnadd | August 3, 2009 10:44 AM |


Yeah, me too. Sorry I flared T_E. But then we both have that pesky Multiple Personality Disorder in common. Which doesn't seem right for us to have so many, and so many posters to have not one.

Posted by: TheCork | August 3, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Zorn said: "I think there's a lot of blogging - a lot of, 'here's what I think...' - and that suddenly becomes the story without it really being based in anything that's really going on."

Sounds like he was referring to JLC.

Posted by: seraphina | August 3, 2009 8:34 PM | Report abuse

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