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Unrestricted Look at a Busy Day Ahead

It's going to be a hectic day at Redskins Park. Jason Reid has an unrestricted preview.

By Cindy Boren  |  October 14, 2008; 9:20 AM ET
 
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1stttt poolmannnn i'm first or second HI MOM
HI MOm

Posted by: poolman1200000 | October 14, 2008 9:30 AM | Report abuse

It's great that the Gmen and Girls lost. I guess these next two "easy" games may not be so easy. It's the NFL hopefully no one confuses teams not playing in the NFC East as road kill. I'd say the team got Medium Well their last week basking in the heat of the headlines.

Posted by: Gweez | October 14, 2008 9:37 AM | Report abuse

so some good teams droped in the chart and bad teams went up. Who gives a _

Posted by: alex35332 | October 14, 2008 9:42 AM | Report abuse

So the real question, does Reid Doughty have to box Sean Alexander for no 37?

Posted by: alex35332 | October 14, 2008 9:49 AM | Report abuse

I hope the "power rankings" have us at 32........

Posted by: chrislarry | October 14, 2008 9:50 AM | Report abuse

I do not think the Skins lost because they looked past this opponet or thought all they had to do was show up.

They dominated this game and had some bad turnovers that can happen to any team even one that is hyped for the game and ready to play, I will take DOC's word he was on the sidelines and said this team was just as ready as they were in Dallas and Philly.

Sometimes the breaks just go the other way, it has nothing to do with reading press clippings.

As far a signing a punter, they gave the kid plenty of chances to show them what he had and he did not take advantage. And for anyone suggesting we get Frost back after he is let go by the Packers, you are all morons, Frost sucks and that is why we let him go in the first place.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 14, 2008 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Another question, if Reid Doughty loses number 37, will anyone be upset that thier Doughty jersey is no longer accurate? Whos jersey would you buy first Doughty, Alexander or Betts?

Posted by: alex35332 | October 14, 2008 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Is it me or does EVERY one of the "unrestricted" post seem like an outtake from the Blair Witch Project? Can't he find a Redskin backdrop or something?

Posted by: ChrisWoody | October 14, 2008 9:56 AM | Report abuse

"the inability of Devin Thomas or Malcolm Kelly to make plays was huge"

From the previous post, can someone tell me if they threw in the direction of either one of these guys on Sunday?

Was Kelly active for the game??

Posted by: BeantownGreg | October 14, 2008 9:56 AM | Report abuse

No doubt CL. I hope we are talking about Media Backlash up here soon. I hope Dr. Z says that we are paper tigers and even he the smartest man on the planet was fooled.

F the bandwagoneers.

Posted by: Gweez | October 14, 2008 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Greg,

I do not remeber Kelly on the field, and no balls were thrown to Thomas.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 14, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

no kelly was not active which kind of makes it hard to throw the ball to him. It is hard to look through your progressions with no time at all. #11 is typically the 3rd look for JC. Heyer needs to hurry back, his pros out weigh his cons, and jansens pros.

Posted by: theFreshinAU | October 14, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

I believe that Kelly was not active on sunday. 99% sure.

Posted by: Gweez | October 14, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

my text from Jla said he (kelly) was inactive, got to love those redskin alert messages

Posted by: theFreshinAU | October 14, 2008 10:02 AM | Report abuse

In other words the statement by JLC is another shot at Vinny. When is this childish fight going to end?

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | October 14, 2008 10:05 AM | Report abuse

So, if Kelly was not active, and they didn't look at Thomas, how are they supposed to make plays??

Know what....nevermind. Its just too easy..

Cleveland looked good last night, I think the Redskins can hit some underneath stuff on them. They need to get Moss untracked however.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | October 14, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

"untracked" greg you mean they need to get him ON track? but I think if you hit moss early on the slant a few times it should open up the double move later in the game. I am hoping for a big game from #11, and when I say big I meam from a progression standpoint, make a couple of nice catches and no penalties.

Posted by: theFreshinAU | October 14, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

If NY does not turn the ball over then they beat Clevland.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 14, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

If NY does not turn the ball over then they beat Clevland.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 14, 2008 10:12 AM

Alex,

If we do not turn the ball over we kill the Rams.

35-14 sounds like there was more to it then just turnovers.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 14, 2008 10:15 AM | Report abuse

i can't remember who it is but someone on ESPN always says the only important stat in football is turnovers. it was true in our game and the giants game. both had turnovers that resulted in 14 point swings. I know that was not everything in the giants game, but it had a lot to do with it.

Posted by: theFreshinAU | October 14, 2008 10:21 AM | Report abuse

If Thomas can get through a series without getting flagged i will be very impressed.

Posted by: Stu27 | October 14, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse

The Brown's front four looked good against a seasoned and super bowl o line of the Giants.The pass protection packages for JC had better be on point this sunday or else it could get ugly in a hurry that being said, i am very pissed that the "gold dust twins"(Thomas,Kelly) are of no help to JC and the passing game, way to go Vinny and oh yeah how's that radio show workin out for you. Shaun Alexander? Please!! he's as soft as butter in a micro wave this is where, wait! "don't say it" Marcus Mason could have helped, young legs anxious to impress not some washed up bumm looking for a pay check!

Posted by: dargregmag | October 14, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Looking at the stats from last nights game, the Giants ran for 181 yards, so it seems that the Browns can be run on. The majority of the yardage came from Ward and not Jacobs, so it wasn't a case of the Browns getting run over.

Looking at the stats from the Redskins/Rams game, you have to get the ball to Moss, and if he's being triple covered like he was in the philly game, then you have to take advantage of that. SOMEWHERE, there is an opening

Posted by: BeantownGreg | October 14, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

"Untracked" can also mean getting out of a rut (like the old west wagon trains). Certainly Moss needs to get out of the rut of the last two games.

Posted by: M00SE | October 14, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

HAHA,
Who in the world actually purchased a Reed Doughty jersey? I would use it as a doormat.

Posted by: marleyb313 | October 14, 2008 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Just Kidding, I would never let anyone wipe their feet on a Redskins jersey and defile it in such a manner.

Posted by: marleyb313 | October 14, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

I hear that anyone who buys a Reed Doughty jersey can pay to have it delivered by either Reed or Chris Horton personally.
Delevery by Reed, $14
Delevery by Horton, $200
Free Delevery by Horton, $0(but he gets to tackel you once you open the door)

Posted by: alex35332 | October 14, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

+++What is going on with Moss??


Posted by: BeantownGreg+++

My thinking is opponents are saying "dont' let Moss beat us" and doubling him as necessary. This accounts for Cooley's being open, but Cooley won't tote the rrock 70 yard in one play.

Randal El is good, but a definite #2 receiever and coverable. And then there is a third wideout. Skins drafted two, and neither scares anyone except the keeper of Vinny's GM reputation.

Posted by: TheCork | October 14, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

+++Another question... Whos jersey would you buy first Doughty, Alexander or Betts?

Posted by: alex35332 +++

To wear when? Visiting a hospital?

Posted by: TheCork | October 14, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Why don't the Redskins just sign Marcus Mason off of the Raven's practice squad. He knows our system, and he is young and in shape.

Posted by: mikhal | October 14, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Cindy, if you are on. Is there an estimated time for the work out of SA and the punters?

Posted by: alex35332 | October 14, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

I watched the game, Giants ran over and around Cleveland. Ward is a tough back too, he doesn't avoid contact. And BJ looked beast when he did run. I think Portis can have another stellar game next week.

The key, unfortunately, will be pass rush. The Browns Oline handled the Giants feared rush well, and Anderson is another QB with limited mobility who wilts when hit and improves in a game with the confidence of protection.

I am not sure why people feel the need to gang up on JLC for pointing out that a lack of legit 3rd WR is important. We need a young hungry dude there, not Thrash. Now the FO made the choice that high draft picks could do that instead of getting a young free agent, or taking shot on mcmullin/Mix. So the only guys you can hang that lack of an option on are the rooks. Yes its premature, but their the only option, so when they don't contribute it will get noticed.

Posted by: chrislarry | October 14, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Keep in mind the ability of players to stay healthy, do the right things in the game, and get open to get balls thrown to them maybe part of what Coach is referring to.

Posted by: SthFlaRskn | October 14, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Why don't the Redskins just sign Marcus Mason off of the Raven's practice squad. He knows our system, and he is young and in shape.

Posted by: mikhal | October 14, 2008 10:56 AM

A few reasons, we know he is the King of preseason, but he has never carried in a real game and he does not pass protect very well.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 14, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Jasno/Cindy,

Any truth to the report that Pete Kendall is going to be helping Jerry Gray improve the secondary's pass catching skills?

Posted by: will_ga | October 14, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

What's the deal with the Browns helmets? Did they pencil in those numbers with a sharpie?

Posted by: skins_fan_22 | October 14, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Will, with the zinger.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 14, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Hey, Alex. Probably a little later today on the tryouts and Shaun Alexander....Alexander has to have a physical and like such as. By a little later, I'd imagine 1 or 2 p.m.

Posted by: CindyBoren | October 14, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Flound, EXACTLY!!!

When Zorn said that Mason was getting the plays wrong in pre-season, what makes people think that all of a sudden he's going to get the plays right now that its the REGULAR season.

Seems like a lot of RB's are hurting, so getting Alexander might be a coup...

Posted by: BeantownGreg | October 14, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

You guys are killing me. We don't have to throw to them to see if they were ineffective... the fact that they were never open and JC was never able to get the ball to them should show that they were ineffective. JC has done a great job this year of checking down but w/o a decent 3rd option at WR it's like having 10 men on the field !

Posted by: franky4fingers | October 14, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

As long as they can get Alexander for around the minimum, I think it's a great pick-up. You never know with knee injuries; Betts may be back in 2 weeks, or it may be a little longer.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | October 14, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

good point franky fingers on JC and the WR, he really has spread the ball around if they are open he will find them...

Zorn obviously doesn't value Mason like the masses do, and I digging Zorn so far, so if Zorn don't want'em I dont either!

Posted by: chrislarry | October 14, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

CL and Zorn sitting in a tree.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 14, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

CL and Zorn sitting in a tree.

Posted by: alex35332 |


LMAO!

Posted by: icetotalpackage | October 14, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Keep in mind the role that our incoming RB will be put in. He isnt going to be a feature back or be major part of the gamplan. He will be a compliment to CP26 that means he wont have to win us games he just has to not F-it up. Alexander has a lot of experience in high pressure games at that, he blocks well and can catch ou of the backfield, crucial in this offense. If hes there looks decent for the Vet min then it makes much more sence to go for him then an unproven back. There wont be a game were he sees more the 8 touches anyways.

Posted by: Stu27 | October 14, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

CL,

I will take Zorn's opinion as well, because we know the masses me included know jack sh!t about football.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 14, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

I think the problem with bringing Mason back is simple, he would be guaranteed a contract in order to sign him from the Ravens' Practice squad, the NFL rules are that if you sign a player from another team's PS, they have be on the 53 man roster and stay there unless injury.

Alexander could be cut as soon as Betts is healthy without it costing the Skins anything other than the couple of weeks on the roster. No guarantees in such a contract.

That must be the thing they are looking at, in order to sign any player now, they will also have to cut a player(could use IR too) who is already on the 53 man roster.

It's kind of tricky, to me, they shouldn't do anything in this regard(running back situation), maybe make a move towards a wide out considering Zorn seems to reaching the end of his patience waiting for Kelly to get healthy.

Just my opinions on the matter.

Posted by: craig2 | October 14, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Why don't the Redskins just sign Marcus Mason off of the Raven's practice squad. He knows our system, and he is young and in shape.

Posted by: mikhal | October 14, 2008 10:56 AM

A few reasons, we know he is the King of preseason, but he has never carried in a real game and he does not pass protect very well

Flounder,

Mason is a TALENT. You can give him reps with the 1st team and drill the plays into his head; that's a coach's job. But you cannot coach the kind of quickness, running instincts and home-run ability that Mason has. That's God-given and rare. We were foolish to cut him and we shouldn't make the mistake of passing him up a 2nd time.

Posted by: TS_Alfabet | October 14, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Washington Redskins. There is simply no excuse for losing at home to a hapless bunch like the St. Louis Rams. None. This would have been a failing grade but the Redskins thoroughly dominated the action for the most part and held a sizable advantage in total yardage for the game, outgaining the Rams 368-200.

The Skins ran the ball effectively and Jason Campbell had a solid outing statistically but the turnovers and untimely miscues by the entire team did them in. What has to be especially disappointing for the Redskins is they were seemingly well prepared to prevent something like this from happening. The Skins have one of the oldest rosters in the league and have a solid core of veteran leadership. They should know better than to allow a letdown after four straight victories.

The Skins had a golden opportunity to maintain the momentum in the NFC East but they let it slip away. You have to wonder if this will be one of those games where they will look back and be kicking themselves come late December.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | October 14, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Look at it from a Defensive POV, you gonna account for Alexander more than Mason?

Posted by: alex35332 | October 14, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

The Skins 3rd WRs (Thrash 5/35, Thomas 4/40, Kelly 1/6) have a combined 10 catches for 76 yds. But in reality, the 2nd/3rd option is often a TE or RB.

Posted by: siris | October 14, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Mason is a TALENT. You can give him reps with the 1st team and drill the plays into his head; that's a coach's job. But you cannot coach the kind of quickness, running instincts and home-run ability that Mason has. That's God-given and rare. We were foolish to cut him and we shouldn't make the mistake of passing him up a 2nd time.

Posted by: TS_Alfabet | October 14, 2008 11:30 AM

TS,

He has great Preseason talent against backups and guys who do not actually play we have never seen him in a real game, and we know he can not pass protect even against backups, so your comments are off base.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October 14, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: CindyBoren | October 14, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

"Mason is a TALENT. You can give him reps with the 1st team and drill the plays into his head; that's a coach's job. But you cannot coach the kind of quickness, running instincts and home-run ability that Mason has. That's God-given and rare. We were foolish to cut him and we shouldn't make the mistake of passing him up a 2nd time.

Posted by: TS_Alfabet | October 14, 2008 11:30 AM |"

I honestly can't tell if that was meant to be funny/slightly sarcastic or serious.

Please I'm hoping it wasn't meant to be serious.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | October 14, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Ummmm...OK, Truth. That's a fairly accurate summary of what I picked up following the game on NFL gamecast, though I would also add that the team that scored the most points won.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 14, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

On punters...of course this needs to be addressed, but for the love of god WaPo, quit cutting and pasting the sentence, "Teams rarely expend draft picks on punters because other positions are considered more important..." into every story about it. How hard is it to do a Google search on "punters drafted NFL?" Try it once. You'll find this:

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?position=Punters&type=position

There were three drafted last year alone. Enough already.

On receivers...time perhaps to put Kelly on IR and get someone who can at least walk onto the field. But please...no more talk about McMullen. From Pro Football Weekly: "Word is the Seahawks have pretty much given up on recently acquired WR Billy McMullen in a starting role after the problems he experienced holding on to passes and being taken out physically in the Week Five loss to the Giants."

That's been his problem since he got into the NFL - he can't catch. Kind of a drawback at the receiver position. Maybe Mix is the best choice as he was here in camp. I don't know who all else is out there. I've been too busy on Mondays with my new radio show to do the research.

Posted by: EpsteinsMothersDoctor | October 14, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

CL,

I will take Zorn's opinion as well, because we know the masses me included know jack sh!t about football.

Posted by: Flounder21 | October

Sir, I knew Jack Sh!t. Mr Sh!t was a friend of mine & the masses are no Jack
Sh!t.

However, the masses are often lemmings in search of a cliff when things go briefly wrong.

Posted by: will_ga | October 14, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: dboog | October 15, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

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