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Highlights From Zorn News Conference

What follows is a rough transcript of key comments, posted live during the 3 p.m. Zorn presser:

• First up, of course was owner Daniel Snyder, who thanked fans for "their patience and understanding. I appreciate very much the fan support and patience. ... I also want to thank Joe Gibbs for his daily calls and support. ... It was very comforting as he told me to keep going on the process. ... i appreciate every much that support. ...
The commissioner, Roger Goodell, was frequent caller too, telling me to be patient and complete the process....We conducted a full search and we ended up with the right guy."

• On the circumstances that led to Zorn as the choice: "Vinny kept saying after every interview, 'Zorn.' And that's how we got there."

• Fashion note: Zorn is wearing a black suit and a bright yellow-gold tie. After the usual thank yous, he addressed the matter of taking over a pre-fab staff. "I'm excited that there's a lot of the staff in place already. I think it would be very difficult for me to come in and start from square one [with the combine and draft upcoming]. ... It's going to be much more comfortable for me in this situation than it would be starting from scratch.

"I want to acknowledge Joe Gibbs. I look at these three trophies [like I have to tell you they're the Lombardis...] and it's quite intimidating and I know who's responsible. ... In my playing career, I was only on a team that had a chance to play for the AFC championship in a losing situation. ... I want to acknowledge that a lot of the things that are in place were by Joe and Dan...Thanks, Joe, and thanks for being here [at Redskins Park]. I hope to be able to lean on you in situations that could be a struggle."

• On his mentors: "Bobby Ross with the Detroit Lions has been a major influence in my coaching career. ... The thing I learned from him was how to work. ... Working under Mike Holmgren, I learned how to be efficient, how to delegate, how to oversee and make sure that all the areas you have in place are being taken care of. ... [He's great at] stepping in, stepping back out. ..."

• He also said he would definitely hire an offensive coordinator.

• Zorn now is saying how much he admires the players for the character they showed in the aftermath of Taylor's death. On the tribute to Taylor by the defense in the first game after he died: "I thought to myself, 'Who could have thought something like that up, to play with 10 players on a play to honor a fallen teammate? It's pretty awesome when you think about it."

• He favors a balanced attack and, duh, the West Coast offense, "This whole game is about rhythm, not about hanging onto the ball until you see a guy open."

• On his reaction when Snyder asked Thursday if he wanted to be considered for the head coaching job: "I was taken aback, but not quite speechless because the first words out of my mouth were 'Certainly, I'd like to do that.' It was a little but shocking."

• Zorn gave a little shoutout to The Post's copy desk: "I loved the newspaper headline today: 'Quarterback Sneak.' That's kind of how I got in here, isn't it? The Post got it right."

• On the number of offensive coordinators that quarterback Jason Campbell has worked for in his short career: "I say, 'Ehhh, bummer.' That's his career. I'm not going to worry about all the influences he has had. I am going to worry about the influences he is going to have now.

"The thing I didn't like is the way he has had to squat when he's under center. We've got to get the center to tweak his rear end up a little bit. Part of being a quarterback is being ... explosive off the line of scrimmage. When I was watching him, I wondered how he could be explosive off the line of scrimmage."

• Lastly, Zorn introduced Hall of Fame WR Steve Largent, who was at Redskins Park, and -- of course --was a longtime teammate: "We're still friends and it's tremendous that he lives in Washington D.C., and his boys are here."

By Cindy Boren  |  February 10, 2008; 2:55 PM ET
 
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Comments

Zornst!

Posted by: PDiddy | February 10, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Zorn has five kids.

"Mr." Snyder is thanking the fans. Well done, guys. Take a bow. You deserve it. I'm going to eat some ice cream to celebrate our accomplishment.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 10, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

what channel????

Posted by: trailblazer658 | February 10, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

"Mr." Snyder got permission from The Commish to take his time. Whew.

They were looking for a coach with "characteristics". Character. istics. Characteristics. So, Zorn has character. Does he have the istics? That's the question at hand.

Is it too early to drink?

Posted by: PDiddy | February 10, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

trailblazer, I'm watching over the Internets.

"Mr." Snyder spoke for 3 minutes. Zorn is speaking now.

Zorn is excited to be the head football coach. It's miraculous. If you consider the process. I love the process. Go process!

Posted by: PDiddy | February 10, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

trailblazer,

It's online here:

http://mfile.akamai.com/17911/live/reflector:43517.asx?bkup=43520&prop=n

And, it's on Fox and NFL Network -- probably other channels too.

Posted by: JustMe | February 10, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Zorn is thanking everyone. Including Sally Field, Jim J. Bullock, and Norman Fell. In something like this, they're all winners. He is thanking his agent, his publicist, his hairdresser. And, of course, he's thanking the little people.

I have to say...I love Zorn in person. He looks completely lost in front of the press. Man. Deer in headlights babbling.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 10, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Zorn got through all of the Danny's talking points

Posted by: david | February 10, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

He does seem a little overwhelmed on the podium. LOL I imagine it'll get easier for him over time. I hope so, anyway. :)

Posted by: JustMe | February 10, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

okay that was the 30th time Joe Gibbs was mentioned

Posted by: david | February 10, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

The 'Skins aren't in a rebuilding phase. They're already competitive. Thank goodness the coaching staff is already in place. He's looking forward to meeting all the players. It's not about Zorn, it's about the players and how they perform. He wants to acknowledge Joe Gibbs.

Have we hit all our talking points yet?

Anybody hit Bingo out there?

Posted by: PDiddy | February 10, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

He needs a class in public speaking.

Posted by: nojunk4me | February 10, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

If he mentions Vinny Cerrato's personnel management skills, I'm going to drink.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 10, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Zorn already looks overwhelmed. God help us....

Posted by: theslick50 | February 10, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

He already knows he's going to strugggle.

Posted by: nojunk4me | February 10, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

nojunk4me, he could hire me. I specialize in managing the media. I also look good in a suit. And I have tremendous respect for Joe Gibbs. And I love 'Skins fans...the greatest fans in the world. Etc., etc.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 10, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

oh props to GG - off to a bad start in Snyder's eyes

Posted by: david | February 10, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

We're doomed.

Why do these coaches always put the word "football" in their sentences:

"head football coach"
"last football season"

Why would you do that?

He is obliquely thanking GG about the Missing Man Formation...

Posted by: PDiddy | February 10, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Yea, I'm glad he's a football coach and not a public speaker.

And, talk about burying a presser. No mistake by ole' Danny on that one.

Posted by: gdennie | February 10, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

He is the "Emmitt Smith" of coaches. His pressers are going to be so much fun!!!

"I remember when the Redskin players decided to play with 10 players on their opening play on defense."

Posted by: nojunk4me | February 10, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Just thought about this - Zorn is coming from a market that no one pays attention to (Seattle) and he's now thrown into one of the most football obsessed cities. I hope he gets better at this press stuff and can handle the pressure he's going to be under.

Posted by: david | February 10, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Okay, I am absolutely going to give Zorn the benefit of the doubt. I'm not going to abandon the team, because the offseason circus is always entertaining. But Dan Snyder is an imbecile. Anyone doubt this now? Man, oh man...

"Maroon and black and yellow". Dude, it's burgundy and gold.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 10, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Who wears maroon and black? I thought the skins was burgandy and gold, maybe snyder changed the colors now too.

Posted by: grizlies98 | February 10, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Maroon and black and yellow? Are you kidding me? Even in 2 weeks here he hasn't learned it's burgundy and gold?

Posted by: dheyman | February 10, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

...yawn

Posted by: gdennie | February 10, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

"Maroon, and black and yellow?"

LOL!!!

Posted by: nojunk4me | February 10, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

david: very good observation. The DC media is going to have a field day with this guy. He's way too nice for DC. He belongs in Seattle.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 10, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Right Now, On the WashPost.com front page, under a picture of Zorn walking with Rypien:

Redskins name former Seahawks quarterbacks coach, with Mark Rypien as head coach. (Photo: AP)

And you wonder why Jasno can't write...

Posted by: daggar | February 10, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Posted on the Giants discussion board, under "Skins Big Mistake":


Giants fans should be very glad the Skins didn't hire Fassell. Yes, his teams were too-often penalized and gave up the ball much too easily. But Zorn's resume looks pretty ridiculous compared to this:

-Fassell: 2-time NFL Coach of the Year
-First Head Coach in the history of the NFC East to go undefeated (7-0-1 in his first year) [Think about this: he accomplished something in his first year that escaped Landry, Gibbs, Allen, Parcells, etc]
-Took over a 5-11 team and won division title in his first year

Most importantly: Fassell's teams played NFC East games consistently better than against everyone else in the league. Look at this:

Fassell 's Giants vs:
-Dallas 8-6
-Philly 9-5
-Washington 7-6-1
And this includes the disastrous 4-12 year in 2003! (without that, he's 8-4 v. Dallas, 9-3 v. Philly, and 6-5-1 v. Skins)
(of course, this was what made Fassell such a tough guy to like: he'd beat the Eagles 24-20, then drop a game to the Saints or Chiefs 38-20 the next week)

Also: Fassell's teams (until 2003) consistently played hard in November & December even with nothing on the line (remember the 1998 Denver win?). If we remove 2003, his Nov-December record was 28-21-1 (29-29-1 with 1-8 in 2003).

Fassell's speciality was working with quarterbacks: his track record absolutely dwarfs Zorn's in this regard. Wining a division title and going undefeated in the NFC East with Danny Kannell? Beating the 13-0 Denver Broncos with Kent Graham? I'm very glad he wont have the chance to work with Jason Campbell, who might be incredibly dangerous under his tutelage.

Had Snyder put all this in front of the Skins fans he might have sold them. I'm really glad he didn't, and I think the learning curve for Zorn is going to be steep. Next year the NFC East is going to be absolutely brutal, with the SuperBowl champs, the Eagles with young guys on D like Trent Cole, and Dallas out to avenge this year. Fassell might have pulled something off with Jason Campbell-Clinton Portis. I'm not too worried about Zorn.

Posted by: dcmike123 | February 10, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Wait, he's still talking. Someone let me know if he says something interesting. I'm going to make a ham, cheese, and football omelette. And then I'm going to have some orange football juice. Maybe some sourdough football toast. Perhaps some whipped football butter on top.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 10, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

MAROON BLACK and YELLOW!!!!! I can not believe it!!!

HUHHHHHHHHH????

WTF?????

HOLY SH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!T

I most of all wish they had a camera on Danny when he said that.

I have nothing against Zorn, but know your team colors. Jeez!!!!

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 10, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

not only was his speech written for him "continuity, Joe Gibbs, Sean Taylor tragedy", but he thinks our colors are maroon and black.

god help us.

Posted by: johnw | February 10, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Where's the Sandman and his hook, when you need him?

Posted by: nojunk4me | February 10, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

is it just me or dose zorn look like vince McMahon?

Posted by: deberger | February 10, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Players need to punish themselves?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 10, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Uh-oh he mentioned the Post - Danny needs to go over which papers are the good/bad ones.

Posted by: david | February 10, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

We're here to have our players punish themselves?

Hey Zorn, I'll settle for getting Portis into August camp!

Posted by: gdennie | February 10, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

I really like that Zorn is calling him "Dan" and not "Mr. Snyder".

He looks nervous, understandably, but he's saying all the right things.

Posted by: jvwright | February 10, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

"I want to make a career of this". My guess is Marty and the Ball Coach and Norv all thought the same thing ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 10, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Zorn has 41% approval. Better than POTUS. Cute joke. That's the Zorn I know and love.

Q&A! Here we go!

Posted by: PDiddy | February 10, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

this guy is so far over his head its unreal...

Posted by: grizlies98 | February 10, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

WTF? they're keeping 50 gut?

is Zorn going to be allowed to do anything? Is Joe Gibbs still the coach?

this is bizzare

Posted by: johnw | February 10, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

mariucci, black & yellowstone .......a real estate firm, right?

Posted by: barrie.whipp | February 10, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Uhh, this dude seems way over his head.

First impressions.

Posted by: gdennie | February 10, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Zorn is a nice guy ... too bad he will be fired in a year

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 10, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Interesting that he wants to keep the running game the same, as far as the plays and terminology.

Posted by: fgtdr | February 10, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

We're doomed. Hahahaha!

Posted by: PDiddy | February 10, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

If he keeps calling him Dan, Snyder will fire him prior to the end of the press conference.

Posted by: barrie.whipp | February 10, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Dan Snyder "We had an idea..." lol they had no clue what they were going to do

Posted by: david | February 10, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Not asked til Thursday about the HC job!!! Sounds like Danny's #1 guy turned him down

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 10, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Who doesn't know their own team's colors. He better get it together in a HURRY. What's that thing they say about first impressions? Zorn just lost me. Lastly, who was the idiot who wrote that speech for him. CLEARLY, The Danny had talking points sent to Zorn. He's a puppet already.

Posted by: noel5150 | February 10, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

What a stupid story about having Zorn put on a suit and tie to interview for the HC job.

Are you kidding me?

Posted by: gdennie | February 10, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

40 years of rooting for the burgundy and gold ... whoooops, I mean maroon and yellow ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 10, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

I'll reserve judgement till we play some games but Zorn has to interview better than he deals with a presser. The 2 head d bags were so "smitten and in love with him." Why did our beloved franchise fall into the hands of Snyder.

Posted by: cdubb | February 10, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Every time he says "football", drink!

Posted by: PDiddy | February 10, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

He needs a class in public speaking.

Posted by: nojunk4me | February 10, 2008 03:11 PM

Look, at the risk of being called VinnyDAN BBoy, I am throwing out everything he says today. Give him a week, two weeks, etc. Lets see him in his element, lets wait until, at least, training camp, before we judge him.

The presser is pretty bad, but from everything I have read about this guy, he is not here for the paycheck (Mooch) or redemption and a paycheck (Facile) but because he is a football guy. I think he will try hard and hopefully listen to the smart guys and nod politely when VinnyDAN talks.

Posted by: RedBee | February 10, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

"and we resemble a professional football team."

Posted by: gdennie | February 10, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Zorn talks about trust. Hmmmm, seems trust should start at the top ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 10, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Can't wait to see the Danbots spin this up here.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 10, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry but in what offense do you not need a good receiver and a good tight end? Oops, no mention of a good quarterback in place

Posted by: david | February 10, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

WCO needs a great inside receiver ... but Randle El? I like ARE but he isn't a big inside WR

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 10, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

I'm not a Skins fan but I'm sure glad they're in the league, because they're entertaining...

Jim Zorn as HC - LOL. Nobody even wanted him as a coordinator. Of course to Washington he's the next Gibbs now. Maybe he also doesn't know you can't call two timeouts in a row.

Posted by: josettes | February 10, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Zorn is dropping more stupid one-liners than I can comment on.

Somebody get this on Youtube fast.

Posted by: gdennie | February 10, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Goodness me, this is going further downhill the longer he speaks

Posted by: barrie.whipp | February 10, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

I'll try to contact all the players if I can? Dang!!!! You are in charge. My goodness man.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 10, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Well it's true - like Hasselbeck said this guy can't lie. I wonder how he'll handle the weekly injury report.

Posted by: david | February 10, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Can I restate what Zorn just said "I became the OC here because I needed a job and there weren't many others ..."

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 10, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

I feel like the crowd at Nibb High after Billy Madison read the Puppy Who Lost His Way..

We are all now dumber for listening to Danny and Zorny speak, we award you zero points, and may god have mercy on your soul.

p.s. don't forget your maroon and black jersey's...

Posted by: johnw | February 10, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Can you imagine his postgame presser after the Skins get pasted at home in game 3 or 4.

Bloodbath.

Posted by: gdennie | February 10, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Dan invokes the cloak of Joe. Thinks it protects him from all evil comments. Well, not so much

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 10, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

MAROON & BLACK?

WTF?

ROFL

Posted by: the_squire | February 10, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

If Snyder was really good he'd have all the assistant coaches sitting up on the stage with him - he needs some tips from the President on staging an event.

Posted by: david | February 10, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

So how much longer are we going to hear about Joe? Can this continue into the season?!?

Posted by: david | February 10, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

"Mission Accomplished".

Posted by: PDiddy | February 10, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

I'm not a Skins fan but I'm sure glad they're in the league, because they're entertaining...

Jim Zorn as HC - LOL. Nobody even wanted him as a coordinator. Of course to Washington he's the next Gibbs now. Maybe he also doesn't know you can't call two timeouts in a row.

Posted by: josettes | February 10, 2008 03:28 PM

Can someone look up what was said in Philly when Andy Reid was hired? EVERYONE says this guy was the next hire for someone as OC this year.

Is he the next Gibbs? Well, since Gibbs 2.0 was hired, how many new multiple SB winning HCs have come into the league since then? I can think of two, Belichek and Johnson. I may be off by one there.

So no, he is probably not going to be Gibbs 1.0 2008. So be it. But, for some reason, I am optimistic about him and will continue to be until he does something, other than this presser, that tells me otherwise.

Posted by: RedBee | February 10, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Thorough, you must admit that the process that doesn't even interview the guy you hire for that job until day 30 ... not much of a process

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 10, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Wait, did I just see a MISSION ACCOMPLISHED banner on the wall behind Zorn?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 10, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Vinny has the bug eyes working overtime

Posted by: david | February 10, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Vinny! Woohoo! Go Vinny! Impress us, young man! Impress us with every word!

Posted by: PDiddy | February 10, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

PDiddy -- great minds!!!!

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 10, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Let's cut him some slack. The first time I had to get up and speak in front of people, not that good. I do it all the time now and it has become second nature and quite easy for me. Give him a chance. He does not have to be good speaking in front of cameras, just good teaching, motivating and driving us to wininning!

I love the Redskins, players and fans. Dan can not think of how you will ever earn my respect back especially after the way you have treated the men who have worked for you.

Gregg, Al, Ernest and everyone else Danny boy screwed over, I wish you all the best and hope success for you adn your teams.

Posted by: cangle12 | February 10, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Oh my Gawd...this is so much worse than I could ever have imagined !!!!!
Where did Snyder find this guy ??!!!
I'm sitting here in my family room with my wife, and I'm blushing !!...yes, I'm embarrased. For my team, for Wash., fans, this is just horrible !!
I cannot believe I just saw this !!!

Posted by: al852 | February 10, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

From Profootballtalk.com

POSTED 12:46 p.m. EST, February 10, 2008

ZORN HIRE ALL ABOUT VINNY?

There's a theory making the rounds in league circles that the promotion of offensive coordinator Jim Zorn to head coach in Washington has more to do with Vinny Cerrato than it did with Zorn.

As the theory goes, Zorn was deemed to be the least likely of the candidates to challenge Cerrato's authority as the new Executive V.P. of Football Operations.

"For as long as he has been in D.C., Vinny has been second fiddle to the coach," one league source said. "This time, he gets promoted and hires an inexperienced coach who will not make waves. . . . Mooch and Fassel would have threatened Vinny because of their past success and experience. The fact that Vinny was promoted before the head coach hire was a veiled sign that Vinny would be making the call. In the end, it was own insecurity that made for the hire of Zorn."

It was believed that Fassel was the leading candidate primarily because he would likely be so grateful to get a job that he'd defer to Vinny. But if Fassel had had any success on the job, that might have changed.

==================

I think VinnyDAN may end up being wrong. I would be careful if I was the autofeliater about assuming you can walk all over Zorn.

Interesting though, and I would believe that VinnyDAN would think that about him.

By the way, the way you get power as a coach is to win, so if that happens, VinnyDAN loses power anyway.

Posted by: RedBee | February 10, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

How to Interview

1) They ask questions.

2) You answer.

Regards,

J. Zorn

Posted by: gdennie | February 10, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Maroon and black ... don't worry Jim ... no way you could slick your way into the job

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 10, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

The interview process:

Vinny would ask a question.
Dan would ask a question.
Then they'd go off on a tangent.

Guys, you have to appreciate that this isn't just a football team, it's a full on circus. You don't get 20 weeks of entertainment, you get 52 weeks of full on, balls to the wall hilarity and hijinks. We are lucky.

Yeah, that's my spin for the day. They don't call me the "marketing genius" for nothing.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 10, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

I wish Zorn wouldn't talk about how he developed Dilfer and Seneca Wallace. Hasselback is an obvious plus, but seriously, those other guys ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 10, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Good piece on Zorny here as well:

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/hashmarks/0-5-389/Enough-Zorn-to-go-around-.html

Curious what the Seattle media is saying . . .

Posted by: RedBee | February 10, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

My Stars, JC - "He's very tall"

Posted by: barrie.whipp | February 10, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Oh man. He's talking about JC's stance under center and raising the center's butt. This is priceless. This guy is a GREAT coach. Is he a great head coach? Knowing that the head coach position is mostly about management, I think we have to start worrying.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 10, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Why a 5 year contract? "Why not?"
Smart a$$ sucky answer Danny boy

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 10, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Don Breaux's caling the plays

Posted by: barrie.whipp | February 10, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Some of you are being a little harsh towards him as far as the press conference. I don't care what he looks like in the press conference, lets see what happens on the field.

Posted by: fgtdr | February 10, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

oohh betts can scoot - I wonder if he can 'boot scoot' as well

Posted by: david | February 10, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Zorn sounds like my wife up there explaining the finer points of pro football.

I'm just saying...

Posted by: gdennie | February 10, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Although the "maroon, black, and yellow" comment is not helping him win fans over.

Posted by: fgtdr | February 10, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Remember Norv's mushy mouthed pressers, Spurrier's "coach 'em up" philosophy, and St. Joe's explanations of things "up here"?

Pressers are part of the carnival. Gotta love this. I sense a Jim Zorn drinking game on the horizon...

Posted by: PDiddy | February 10, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if he's really really proud of the guys

Posted by: david | February 10, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Zorn's comment on situations that are right or wrong for a guy ... well, thats what a lot of guys will think about working for Danny ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 10, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

I like that he is being real. That he knows that he has to earn the trust of the players. Yes he needs to take a class but it good to see someone being real and themselves.

Posted by: jm220 | February 10, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Zorn sure is press conferencing his guts out

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 10, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

OK I am in Cosi (not gay). You guys are cracking me up.

Is it really that bad? HC must talk right.

If I new Gibbs would be there I would have stayed at home.

Please you are not just evil message board boob heads are you?

Posted by: mul | February 10, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

In better newz...Caps win!

Posted by: clawrence | February 10, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

I think it's kinda cool that he gave what seem to be his honest opinions when asked direct questions. To me, it's nice not to hear that indirect Gibbs-speak. He'll be fine once he's accustomed to doing pressers.

Posted by: JustMe | February 10, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

and with that, the interview screen freezes

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 10, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

deer in headlights

Posted by: grizlies98 | February 10, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

deer in headlights

Posted by: grizlies98 | February 10, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

OK I am in Cosi (not gay). You guys are cracking me up.

Is it really that bad? HC must talk right.

If I new Gibbs would be there I would have stayed at home.

Please you are not just evil message board boob heads are you?

Posted by: mul | February 10, 2008 03:50 PM


Well he's just being honest with his answers and he does seem to be a bit nervous. Not bad just needs some polishing

Posted by: david | February 10, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

See what happens when you give praise to the WaPo - The Danny cuts the news feed :(

Posted by: david | February 10, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

I really like the Zorn hire. He speaks with authority and knows what he is talking about it.

Posted by: tjzukoski | February 10, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

I lost my connection a few minutes ago for some reason

Posted by: fgtdr | February 10, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

http://members.tripod.com/eaglemac/coach.html

On Andy Reid's hiring by the Eagles

Posted by: RedBee | February 10, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Judging from this press conference he really does seem more like a position coach than a head coach. He doesn't seem to have that head coach authority presence - hopefully he'll get that as he goes.

Posted by: david | February 10, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Vinny's on XXX

Posted by: JustMe | February 10, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Another Synder ploy. He is changing the team colors to maroon and black. More $s from the faithful fans to keep up with the gear!

Posted by: fladung | February 10, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Is it still going on?

Posted by: fgtdr | February 10, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Vinny just said in 96 with Niners that Mooch was hired as the OC and then brought back the next day and told he was the HC. WOW

Posted by: jm220 | February 10, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Vinny's on XXX

Posted by: JustMe | February 10, 2008 03:57 PM


That might explain a few of his choices - Trung Candidate anyone

Posted by: david | February 10, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Who cares? And DON'T EVER INTERRUPT A CAPS GAME FOR THIS!!!

Posted by: Barneybarnabas | February 10, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Danny's media machine can't keep an internet feed up and going on a Sunday afternoon.

It's the presser for the new HC, for goodness sakes.

Joke after joke...

Posted by: gdennie | February 10, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Okay, after listening to the press conference I'm not optimistic that Jim Zorn is the answer to the redskins woes but I do like his honesty! He seemed a little nervous and is not a very polished speaker but he definitely strikes you as being authentic and real which is in striking contrast to Synder and Cerrato.

Zorn's comments did confirm in my mind that he was the fall-back guy and the coach of last resort! Hopefully he'll be successful and let's hope that Synder and Cerrato will get struck by lightning and not meddle too much!

Posted by: skinsfan7 | February 10, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Feed was taken down. "Don't ever call me Dan again"

Posted by: barrie.whipp | February 10, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Zorn's on now

Posted by: JustMe | February 10, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Andy Polian is ripping VinnyDAN for things he did in 2000.

Maybe he is right, maybe everything will revert to the past, but geez, give Zorn a break.

I just don't get the feeling that Zorn will bend over for VinnyDAN. I think you may see a guy who will speak truth to power, and VinnyDAN can't fire him without admiting they did the whole think so bass ackwards.

I have hope in Zorn, though not in VinnyDAN.

Posted by: RedBee | February 10, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Zorn on XXX

Posted by: jm220 | February 10, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Atleast we nabbed that hot defensive line coach (who just happened to be a friend of Vinny and is retired and has no NFL experience).

Posted by: gdennie | February 10, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat can you do a 'Hips don't lie' song with Zorn? I have no talent!

Posted by: mul | February 10, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

So glad I am in NYC and could keep watching great Caps V Rangers on local MSG Net...

Real sports beat orchestrated BS anyday...

F Snyder....F Comcast..

GO CAPS!

Posted by: clawrence | February 10, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

I just don't get the feeling that Zorn will bend over for VinnyDAN. I think you may see a guy who will speak truth to power, and VinnyDAN can't fire him without admiting they did the whole think so bass ackwards.


Posted by: RedBee | February 10, 2008 04:01 PM


I feel the complete opposite - I think Dan/Vinny got this guy because they feel like they can push him around

Posted by: david | February 10, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Zorn on XXX

Posted by: jm220 | February 10, 2008 04:01 PM

He is better on radio . . .

Posted by: RedBee | February 10, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

VinnyDAN can't fire him without admiting they did the whole think so bass ackwards.

Posted by: RedBee | February 10, 2008 04:01 PM

They also can't fire him because he was the only one who would take the job. I mean, who is their number two candidate? Sorry, but he left the building a while ago.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 10, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

I like him. A few thoughts:

1) I don't think he said "up here" "guts out" or "all in this together", nor did he cackle or send shout-outs to all of his grandkids. So for everyone who was complaining about Gibbs pressers, take note.

2) I like his enthusiasm and his honesty.

3) I think reporters will like him because he'll give a straight answer; therefore, I don't think the gossip/rumor mill will be as insane with Zorn as with Gibbs and Spurrier, and I don't think there are any questions about who's making personnel decisions, so I think reporters will have less to complain about. As JLa said, this is the Vinny era.

-LaVar Walt Clark

Posted by: higglesworth | February 10, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

30 mins to the kickoff of the greatest football game ever! I just wonder what the heck this game is doing on Fox instead of ESPN25

Posted by: david | February 10, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Monk and Green are on NFL Network

Posted by: JustMe | February 10, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

OK

Better or worse than

VP candidate Stockdale 92'
"Gridlock congress"

Tell me the truth!

Posted by: mul | February 10, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

THE FOLLOWING COMMENTS WERE WRITTEN BY PEOPLE WHO WERE SCORNED IN SOME WAY BY JASON LA CANFORA:


JLaC...... is there anything that this organization can do that will bring neutral to positive reporting, or are we cursed to perpetually listen to your merciless bad mouthing of our Skins?

Posted by: drbatchelor | February 10, 2008 02:27 PM

JLC constantly criticizes the team - before the season, during the season, at the end of the season...whether they are doing well or not. It gets really OLD...especially when one watches him on television doing it with a "know it all" sneer. I'm not asking that he praise the team, ownership (heaven forbid anyone could praise the ownership!) but he could at least take his bias out of his reporting.

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 10, 2008 02:36 PM

I agree that our FO is screwed up but every word and every post from JLC is filled with bile. It doesn't matter what happens. I don't know what JLC has against Snyder but he (admittently) is not a Skins fan. Leave the bile to us. Just report. I know this is a blog but it isn't from his home page its from the WP Sports section. He can't have it both ways-JLC-ease up.

Posted by: jandlml | February 10, 2008 02:37 PM

JL -

I've been with you 99% of the time in your reporting, but you're going too far now. The last two paragraphs of this story went out of their way to be snarky.

"Snyder put out the word that all of the assistant coaches had to be present today- to show their support you know, no matter of what they might really think"

GOOD. That's what a leader does. The assistants don't have to like the way the organization is going. But they do have to be publicly supportive.

"and all were to wear Redskins golf shirts (all important wardrobe decisions)."

GOOD. So what if it's cheesy? It's a signal of unity, and it should be an easy thing for them to do.

"They flew Joe Gibbs in for the big announcement, and he will, I'm sure, continue to operate as a rubber stamp for the organization..."

Are we now impeaching the credibility of JOE GIBBS? To say that this man would be a rubber stamp for ANYTHING is idiotic. He may or may not agree with Snyder, but he's not a guy who spends his credibility lightly.

"...despite his hand picked choice being run out of town..."

It's never been established how Gibbs felt about Williams. Everything I've seen in the last two years points to a professional, but frosty relationship between them.

"...amid false rumors leaked by the team..."

That in itself is a rumor. What false rumors were leaked and by whom?

"...and the idea of "continuity" being harder and harder to sell as the staff continues to be overturned and the players learn another new offense..."

Do you honestly think Saunders was staying EVEN UNDER WILLIAMS? No. If Saunders was not going to pare down his playbook for Gibbs, he CERTAINLY wasn't going to do it for Williams, a defensive guy. Give me a break. This is one of the biggest fallacies of this whole process. There was NEVER going to be offensive consistency. Saunders was done in DC, period.

I read this blog for inside info and fair objective insight. It's pretty clear that the objectivity is getting thin. Nobody wants biased cheerleading, but I don't think anyone wants biased bashing, either.

The FAIR truth is that Snyder stumbled through a process that included a number of guys he really didn't want. He wanted to fall in love with someone and didn't. He doesn't like Williams, and could not see working with him. What was he to do, honestly? He probably hired Zorn to be the OC irrationally, but Blache was a good call for the defensive consistency he craved. When even Spagnuolo didn't work out, he opened his mind and took stock of what he had. The easy thing would have been to hire Mooch. The fans were in favor of that. The safe thing would have been to hire Blache, in the name of consistency. But we got a choice that actually took some guts, and made him swallow some public pride, Zorn. And it's the RIGHT choice, under the circumstances.

Posted by: jvwright | February 10, 2008 02:52 PM

Posted by: Barno1 | February 10, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Who cares about his press conference skills. You all sound like a bunch of girls gossiping about another girl's wardrobe.

We just had a coach who handled press conferences well but didn't know you couldn't call two consecutive TO's before a FG attempt.

All I care about and, if you are true fans, all you should care about is whether this guy can win us games. We will not find that out until September.

Posted by: BT23 | February 10, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

GO CLAWRENCE & CAPS.

F COMCAST, SKINS, & WASHINGTON SPORTS MEDIA.

Posted by: Barneybarnabas | February 10, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Zorn wants to keep Collins. no mention about Burnell

Posted by: mdvj | February 10, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse


On the X-Porn channel:

Q: Jason Campbell is the future of this franchise?

A. RIght now, he is.

He also went on to praise Todd.

Posted by: nojunk4me | February 10, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

On JC - Right now he's the QB of the future

Posted by: mdvj | February 10, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

I like him.

Posted by: higglesworth | February 10, 2008 04:06 PM

If he wins, we'll all like him. And in about 20 years we'll forget about marroon and yellow and black. But if he loses.... And by losing, I mean the opener. Short honeymoon on RI.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 10, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully he'll be successful and let's hope that Synder and Cerrato will get struck by lightning and not meddle too much!

Posted by: skinsfan7 | February 10, 2008 04:00 PM

Snyder and Cerrato have at least now shown their cards, and they are clearly committed to meddling. Nobody can interpret next season as anything else than exactly what Vinny and Dan want for themselves. So hopefully Zorn will turn out to be a good coach, Vinny will turn out to be a good GM, and the press will have less to conspire about with more clearly defined roles.

Posted by: higglesworth | February 10, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

I have no idea what to think about Zorn and will reserve all judgement for now. I watched the press conference and sure, the "yellow and maroon and black" comment was pretty funny. But you really can't start picking on a guy on his first day on the job.

Posted by: Barno1 | February 10, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

But you really can't start picking on a guy on his first day on the job.

Posted by: Barno1 | February 10, 2008 04:12 PM

Oh, yes, you can, apparently.

Posted by: daggar | February 10, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Skins vs Colts in HOF game.

Posted by: JustMe | February 10, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

don't ever do that long caps repeating siht.

Posted by: clawrence | February 10, 2008 11:03 AM

GO CAPS!

Posted by: clawrence | February 10, 2008 04:03 PM

First you hate caps, now you like caps. Make up your mind!

:)

Posted by: Barno1 | February 10, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Blache is on XXX now.

Posted by: JustMe | February 10, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Blache said the position coaches will have input regarding what the defense will be. It will not be his defense. It will be the Redskins defense.

Posted by: JustMe | February 10, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Was a bit surprised to hear we'd named Zorn, but I'm excited at the hiring. I like that we've gone for a young untried candidate, rather than the big name.

I hope Snyder realises, that he has to be patient though, if we go on and finish 5-11 next season, he has to stick with Zorn, he can't go taking heads straight away. Be patient Dan.

Posted by: kost52 | February 10, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

He said players are resilient, and that they'll move on, even though they'll miss Gregg.

Posted by: JustMe | February 10, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

hey i hope Zorn is the man

Posted by: clawrence | February 10, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

"The thing I didn't like is the way he has had to squat when he's under center. We've got to get the center to tweak his rear end up a little bit. Part of being a quarterback is being ... explosive off the line of scrimmage. When I was watching him, I wondered how he could be explosive off the line of scrimmage." -Jim Zorn

So true, and so hillarious.

Posted by: Barno1 | February 10, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

"Who cares about his press conference skills. You all sound like a bunch of girls"


Some of us are.

Your point?

Posted by: suz | February 10, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Hahaha, sounds like Rabach needs to learn how to 'present'!

Posted by: kost52 | February 10, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

I hear that Synder and Cerrato are balking at signing Ernest Byner after offering him the extension! Just another example of Synder's demeaning mgmt style!!

We desperately need new ownership!

Posted by: skinsfan7 | February 10, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

why would collins stay as a FA when a bunch of teams run the Off he is familiar with....he will be backing up with Rams...take that to the bank....that means gus ferotte will be available....

Posted by: clawrence | February 10, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

We desperately need new ownership!

Posted by: skinsfan7 | February 10, 2008 04:24 PM

So make him an offer he can't refuse!

Posted by: daggar | February 10, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

the Byner thing is disgusting..........F snyder...

Posted by: clawrence | February 10, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Hahaha, sounds like Rabach needs to learn how to 'present'!

Posted by: kost52 | February 10, 2008 04:24 PM

Amazing

Posted by: Barno1 | February 10, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

And why pay Collins' $1.5M salary if he's not a great fit for what you want to do?

Or is that too much like getting rid of Lavar?

Posted by: daggar | February 10, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

yeah Rabach is the problem......

chris larry

Posted by: clawrence | February 10, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

the Byner thing is disgusting..........F snyder...

Posted by: clawrence | February 10, 2008 04:26 PM

And what if it isn't true, and Byner remains our RB coach, will you come back retract your vulgar insult?

Posted by: Barno1 | February 10, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

if we go on and finish 5-11 next season, he has to stick with Zorn, he can't go taking heads straight away.

Posted by: kost52 | February 10, 2008 04:17 PM

Now, I'd say that depends on WHY we go 5-11. If Vinny put bad players on the field then, yes, patience. If however, we go 5-11 because Zorn called two time outs in succession to ice the kicker, then it's time to move on.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | February 10, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

"We desperately need new ownership!"

Nothing ever changes with tis fans base. First we want the FO to take their time, weigh all options, and make a good decision. Then thye do that and everyone says "Their taking to much time!" I guess no matter what was done, there will always be people who are not happy.

I for one will let the guy have a chance.

Posted by: lilagram | February 10, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Barno dude your beyond lame...sure I will dole out a HJ to snyder if Byner stays......

How could I disparage Snyder, he is such a salt of the earth dude.....

krissy larry

Posted by: clawrence | February 10, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

And it certainly sounds like Vinnie got his man. If it doesn't work out, Vinnie will have to answer for it too. And I don't believe that his racquetball prowess is any kind of protection.

Posted by: daggar | February 10, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

suz - If you can't get my point, then it is not worth my time trying to explain. It is not all that difficult to understand.

Posted by: BT23 | February 10, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

TE - Yeah, that's right, have faith, but not blind faith.

Posted by: kost52 | February 10, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

it sounds like you think of him as more of a "seed on the earth" guy.

Posted by: daggar | February 10, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

good one daggar......bad seed many...

Posted by: clawrence | February 10, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

It's a sad reality but Jim Zorn was the coach of last resort! As some analysts have noted the decision to promote Zorn was "born out of desperation." This is a sad state of affairs for a once proud franchise!

Posted by: skinsfan7 | February 10, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

and now we're talking about going blind...

Posted by: daggar | February 10, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

the question is do they do the missing man formation to start the pro bowl on defense for the nfc?

Posted by: grizlies98 | February 10, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

The 3 nfc captains are the skins

Posted by: grizlies98 | February 10, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

I think Mr. Rourke was the coach at the last resort. With fine Corinthian leather!

Posted by: daggar | February 10, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Cooley, Samuels and Albrigth wearing Taylor's #21 for the Pro Bowl.

Posted by: cej75024 | February 10, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

"We desperately need new ownership!"

Nothing ever changes with tis fans base. First we want the FO to take their time, weigh all options, and make a good decision. Then thye do that and everyone says "Their taking to much time!" I guess no matter what was done, there will always be people who are not happy.

I for one will let the guy have a chance.

Posted by: lilagram | February 10, 2008 04:29 PM

The fans are not the Freeking problem. We put love and money into this team. We are nice to the QB. We are not Philly fans. VinnyDan had there chance they Suck and there are going to re-suck.

Posted by: mul | February 10, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Sorry if this has already been up, and sorry for not posting for so long, COOLEY, ALBRIGHT and SAMUELS, #21 and got to do coin toss, awesome

Posted by: tweedr01 | February 10, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Cool. I like the guy. He seems like a very genuine person, that's a bit special considering we've had Snyderatto for 9 years(man has it been that long?!). I plan to root for the Zorn and the Skins exactly as I have for the last 40 years, and I'll get just as upset if they lose as I always have, and then tell myself Zorn is the new coach and he needs time to get it worked out. 

 

I like him, this seems like a guy I could play for, hope the other players see him the same way.

 

He does have some work to do on how to handle his pressers though, sometimes it's not always appropriate to tell the WHOLE TRUTH! LOL!!!! 

Posted by: craig2 | February 10, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Sorry if this has already been up, and sorry for not posting for so long, COOLEY, ALBRIGHT and SAMUELS, #21 and got to do coin toss, awesome

Posted by: tweedr01 | February 10, 2008 04:41 PM

I missed it - did they do anything for Sean other than that, and if anyone sees it posted online, I would love to find out where.

Thanks.

Posted by: RedBee | February 10, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Manning picking apart NFC D with 2 Cowboys starters. Not a coincidence.

Posted by: scottj | February 10, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

The HOF Game for us is good too, gives us an extra game to work out the kinks before the season and they should end up starting camp a little early too.

Posted by: craig2 | February 10, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

romo sucks

Posted by: grizlies98 | February 10, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

feel like the crowd at Nibb High after Billy Madison read the Puppy Who Lost His Way..

We are all now dumber for listening to Danny and Zorny speak, we award you zero points, and may god have mercy on your soul.

p.s. don't forget your maroon and black jersey's...

Posted by: johnw | February 10, 2008 03:31 PM


winner for quote of the day. this is going to be interesting to say the least.

Posted by: stivic | February 10, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

"the decision to promote Zorn was "born out of desperation." "

There it is, the next of the Zourne movies is "The Zourne Desperation"

Frankly, I am glad the search is over and feel glad we have a guy who will focus on character in the locker room and hopefully get our QB on track.

I am amazed at the comments on Jason Campbell. He is the most mediocre QB...you just watch him play and he has none of the intangible skills you saw in guys like Favre, Manning, McNabb, Brees, etc..

Posted by: isnadd | February 10, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Zorn spoke his guts out. He did it because he is super smart and a character guy. He thanked the fans and is truly a core Redskin guy because he has a Black and Maroon jersey...

Here's how I got here...

'A guy in 1983 refused to hire me because I had no experiece, blah, blah, blah, I'll $3 mil year please and you can have whatever front office keeps your tent pitched in the morning. Thanks to the Danny'

Great talk.

Posted by: ssh1549 | February 10, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Been a skins fan since 67 and season ticket holder (family) since Griffith Stadium.

I hate DannyBoy for:

1) playing music so loud between every play, you can't even think.

2) bombarding all your senses with advertising, sound, video and audio from the minute you get in the stadium to the minute you leave.

3)"Synder", "Mr. Synder to you" F-Him


As for Zorn, it will be a wait and see.

The shredder is ready for my ticket renewal. With 90K seats, one will always be able to get into a game if you really want to.

Besides, nothing like sitting in the stadium, frezzing your nads off while you wait 3 minutes for tv time outs every single change of posession.

one word: DIRECTV

nuff said.


Posted by: blentz | February 10, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

"the decision to promote Zorn was "born out of desperation." "

There it is, the next of the Zourne movies is "The Zourne Desperation"

Frankly, I am glad the search is over and feel glad we have a guy who will focus on character in the locker room and hopefully get our QB on track.

I am amazed at the comments on Jason Campbell. He is the most mediocre QB...you just watch him play and he has none of the intangible skills you saw in guys like Favre, Manning, McNabb, Brees, etc..

Posted by: isnadd | February 10, 2008 05:02 PM

You must not have watched the same games I watched, I saw a lot of the "intangibles" in JC. 

And Zorn's right about his stance under center, I commented on this last year, he was very slow coming out from center, but he did improve on this some already this year, Zorn commenting on this shows me he won't miss a thing in technic. Cool, Demarcus Ware trying to show off blows the play, what a shocker! 

Posted by: craig2 | February 10, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Love to see dallas players fu*k it up!!

And romo sucks!!

Posted by: kerzon417 | February 10, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

WOW! I need yall to pick my lottery tickets.. cause yall sure know whats going to happen next year.. Whats mondays 4 digit? lol... Give the darn man a chance... Can the offense get worst? I doubt it....

Posted by: curtis.j.ross | February 10, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

See, he isn't going to run the WC Offense. His offense will be a variation of the WC Offense.

The WC Offense will be like the Grandfather of this offense, if you get my drift...

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 10, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

curtis:

4-5-9-1

Posted by: clawrence | February 10, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

COOOOOOOLY!!!

Posted by: kerzon417 | February 10, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Looking past the maroon and black comment and his obvious nervousness, how about all the references to "continuity" and "Joe Gibbs"? It's almost like he was instructed to mention these items.

It should be an interesting ride no matter what, but is anyone else concerned about what kind of role Gibbs will still have "UP HERE"? When they kept mentioning his name, and even 50 gut, I nearly sharted all over my couch. Zorn needs free reign. He can't have the Ol' Space Cowboy drawing up plays for him from NC...

Posted by: johnw | February 10, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

I think it was pretty clear that the offense will be his offense, not the WCO, or whatever, but a compilation of all the different influences he has had. The fact that he's keeping the running game largely intact(sme terminology, same plays and such) gives me hope that the players may not have to learn an entirely new offense, probably new philosophies and such. This could be good.

Posted by: craig2 | February 10, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Romo sucks, can't hit Cooley, must be why he likes Witten so much, TALL guy makes it easier to throw to.

Poor Romo, no PB MVP.

LOL!!!!

Posted by: craig2 | February 10, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

this is from profootballtalk.com unreal how far this once great franchise has fallen.


ZORN HIRE ALL ABOUT VINNY?

There's a theory making the rounds in league circles that the promotion of offensive coordinator Jim Zorn to head coach in Washington has more to do with Vinny Cerrato than it did with Zorn.

As the theory goes, Zorn was deemed to be the least likely of the candidates to challenge Cerrato's authority as the new Executive V.P. of Football Operations.

"For as long as he has been in D.C., Vinny has been second fiddle to the coach," one league source said. "This time, he gets promoted and hires an inexperienced coach who will not make waves. . . . Mooch and Fassel would have threatened Vinny because of their past success and experience. The fact that Vinny was promoted before the head coach hire was a veiled sign that Vinny would be making the call. In the end, it was own insecurity that made for the hire of Zorn."

It was believed that Fassel was the leading candidate primarily because he would likely be so grateful to get a job that he'd defer to Vinny. But if Fassel had had any success on the job, that might have changed.

Posted by: geiger235 | February 10, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

See what happens when there aren't any Skins players on the defense? 

Posted by: craig2 | February 10, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

owens sucks big time. two drops already!!!

dallas sucks!

Posted by: kerzon417 | February 10, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Did I mention romo sucks!

Posted by: kerzon417 | February 10, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

... It was believed that Fassel was the leading candidate primarily because he would likely be so grateful to get a job that he'd defer to Vinny. But if Fassel had had any success on the job, that might have changed.

Posted by: geiger235 | February 10, 2008 05:33 PM

That's been posted already, and your negative attitude has also been posted, A LOT, at least try putting up something new.

Posted by: craig2 | February 10, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

How many times are people going to post the same PFT article?!?!?!

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 10, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

I think people are being way too hard on this guy for his first press conference. Brian Billick gave great press conferences, are you saying you want Brian Billick? Mike McCarthy of the Packers is horrible in press conferences but his team plays pretty well. No doubt there will be some stumbles along the way, but Zorn seems like a likeable guy who players could enjoy playing for.

Posted by: sr_ashcraft1 | February 10, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Good Luck Jimmy Z.

Let's seewhat the guy has.

No matter what we think he is our HC now. I like the thought of ARE and Santana and Clinton is a WCO hybrid. They are better thanthe clowns in Philly and those guys in that type of scheme should be fun to watch.

Posted by: ssh1549 | February 10, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Not that I have an opinion either way, and I apologize if someone else has recongnized this, but in the back of Watership Down, a glossary of rabbit terms includes the word "Zorn." I'm not kidding - it stands for "Destroyed, murdered. Denotes a catastrophe."

Posted by: dhairfield | February 10, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

I am pro Zorn, anti snyder...

go skins...win in spite!

Posted by: clawrence | February 10, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Zorn. Why not.
I noticed that a lot of bloggers are still crying. Now it's what the new coach is wearing. Get off your ass. Get a life.

Posted by: coastallp74 | February 10, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

dhair,

good pull....i am pretty confident your the only person busting out watership down references!!!!!

but as a fan of the book and film, i love it!

chRIS lAry

Posted by: clawrence | February 10, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Me too Cl.

I am also pro CAPS!!

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 10, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Danny and Zorn is a bit like the blind squirrel trying to find an acorn.

Zorn answered that Danny never approached Zorn til Thursday says clearly that Danny's first choice bailed on him -- maybe more than 1. I'm sure Danny was not at all thrilled on this and jumped in -- he made sure to make it sound like Zorn was in on the process the whole time. But if that was the case, why wait so long to include Zorn in on it?

I have nothing against Zorn. But for all those who compare him to Gibbs, Reid, STOP. Yes, some guys make a jump and are great. But its the exception, not the rule. There are probably 50 guys you can't name who tried a similar jump and failed. Why can't you name them? Because they came and went really quickly.

Zorn was right when he said this was a playoff team. Realistically, with GG, this thing could have been better next season. Zorn should be held to the same standard, even as he tries to reinvent an offense.

Challenging days lay ahead for the fans of the maroon and yellow.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 10, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

the caps game today was mad fun to watch...the caps really are an exciting team....

Posted by: clawrence | February 10, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/sportsline/main10631641.shtml

Snippets from the article:

"At the end of the day," said Fassel, "Dan wanted to make a big splash, and I think he was worried about the Baltimore thing. He worried about the public relations (fallout), and he didn't know which way to go.

"I heard someone say there are no more George Youngs or Jim Finks in this league, people who really know the game. And I think that happened here. I don't think Dan surrounded himself with enough football people."

.........

"Someone said to me that Jim Zorn has three jobs he hasn't done now," Fassel said. "He's a head coach, and he's never done it. He's an offensive coordinator, and he's never done it. And he's calling the plays, and he's never done it."

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 10, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Danny and Zorn is a bit like the blind squirrel trying to find an acorn.

Zorn answered that Danny never approached Zorn til Thursday says clearly that Danny's first choice bailed on him -- maybe more than 1. I'm sure Danny was not at all thrilled on this and jumped in -- he made sure to make it sound like Zorn was in on the process the whole time. But if that was the case, why wait so long to include Zorn in on it?

I have nothing against Zorn. But for all those who compare him to Gibbs, Reid, STOP. Yes, some guys make a jump and are great. But its the exception, not the rule. There are probably 50 guys you can't name who tried a similar jump and failed. Why can't you name them? Because they came and went really quickly.

Zorn was right when he said this was a playoff team. Realistically, with GG, this thing could have been better next season. Zorn should be held to the same standard, even as he tries to reinvent an offense.

Challenging days lay ahead for the fans of the maroon and yellow.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 10, 2008 06:13 PM

So your saying that the only way he could succeed is if he had already been identified as a good HC candidate? That doesn't make sense. Have you ever gone shopping without knowing exactly what you were looking for, but with a good idea of what you expected the "thing" to do, or the job you needed to accomplish? Perhaps this search was entirely disfunctional, but that doesn't take anywthing away form the Coach Zorn could be. You realize that Lombardi wasn't the packers' first choice don't you? He was actually the 4th guy they offered the job to, and were NOT happy about it. Didn't work out so badly for the Packers. I'm not saying Zorn is the second coming, but realistically, how do you know what he can do? We have nothing to lose by being supportive and offering some encouragement. Or perhaps, like many on this blog, you just feel better by finding as much negativity as possible.

I guess that's up to you, personally, I'm pretty fired up about the possibilities.


Posted by: craig2 | February 10, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Michael Wilbon does it again.....first he wrote that Spagnuolo would have been introduced with fanfare if he had taken the Skins job. I have yet to hear that Spagnuolo was offered the job and have even heard the Skins did not feel he was ready.

Secondly, Wilbon wrote that the fans were not happy about Fassel because he used to coach the Giants. I don't know about the rest of you but Fassel being a former Giants coach had nothing to do with why I did not want him named head coach...

Please WaPo before you continue to print Wilbons columns can you make sure he knows what he is writing about?

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 10, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

thanks 4th...just read full article....fassel pulling no punches there.......

Posted by: clawrence | February 10, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Everybody is still whinning he hired a coach and it was not Fassel so most of you got your wish now you are complaining because the guy wore a black suit and you think that means he does not know the team colors. How many Burgandy suits do any of you have laying around and if you did would you actually wear it. He is a young coach he is not a splashy hire these are all positives know stop crying about stuff and support the guy already. And if I see one more person say how Williams would have been the best hire I think I will puke. The guy is gone get over it.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 10, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Fassel sounds like a sore loser there.

Yeah, yeah, he's Charlie Brown/Lucyd you twice, dude, but butch up and stop whining.

Posted by: suz | February 10, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Craig2,

Save your fingers most of the haters on this blog are fortune tellers they know exactly what is going to happen I am trying to get one of them to give me the Lotto numbers. They picked a coach and now we need to support the team and move on.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 10, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

kmdp4:

4-5-9-1


chris larry

Posted by: clawrence | February 10, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

So how 'bout this:

with Romo the NFC fell behind 24-7, with our new HC's disciple at QB the NFC has come back and taken the lead, maybe(maybe not) that says some good things about our new HC.

Posted by: craig2 | February 10, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

It's over.

And if you step back and evaluate January and early February, it's been a disaster.

Zorn may work out, but if you had asked the average fan on Jan 1. about Zorn as the new coach, the reaction would have unanimous.

Go ahead and rationalize. In the end, it won't improve the situation.

Truth be told, Zorn's a lightweight. The over/under on him should be about midway season 2.

Posted by: gdennie | February 10, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

If your the Vikings, are you not sharting ur pants every time AP takes a handoff in this worthless game?!?!?!

Name the team, cancel the game....

chris LARRY

Posted by: clawrence | February 10, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Burgundy is a shade of red with a tinge of purple associated with the Burgundy wine of the same name, which in turn is named after the Burgundy region of France. The color Burgundy is similar to other shades of dark red such as maroon. It is often called wine red, or simply wine.

People complaining that he doesnt know the colors just shut up. Id be a nervous reck to if i am a first year coach too. His job is to lead this team. Some of you fans are worse than 2 year olds

Posted by: signicolls_03 | February 10, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

On the tribute to Taylor by the defense in the first game after he died: "I thought to myself, 'Who could have thought something like that up, to play with 10 players on a play to honor a fallen teammate? It's pretty awesome when you think about it."

Gregg Williams, that's who. Wanna hire him?

Posted by: Alan4 | February 10, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

I don't know enough about Jim Zorn to say whether he will work or not, but all we can do is wait and see. I think off-season moves are critical and think we did well last offseason with the draft (albeit with few picks) and restrained free agency. It will take a couple of seasons of success and perhaps a Super Bowl for Cerrato and Snyder to have all sins forgiven, but it's definately all on them now. As a "true" fan, I am routing for all, FO, players and coaches to make it work.

Posted by: rickyroge | February 10, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Understand this, Danny-boy. We, the fans were NOT patient, and we still do not understand. What appears to us is that you have the money, the Redskins are your toy, and you will play with them as much as you like.

Also understand this: If your meddling, ugly, unprofessional process of selecting a head coach does not get us back to the playoffs THIS SEASON, your toy will quickly begin to lose its valus as we (the ones who pay for you to play with this toy) will leave you in droves. How much can this franchise lose in value in one year? Wanna find out? Stand by.

Posted by: AWWNats | February 10, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

The Zorn Supremacy!

Zorn Flakes!

Posted by: rickyroge | February 10, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Zorn is 54. This is likely his last coaching job. Good luck to him. Watch your back.

As for people questioning his wardrobe, I'm with you. I am known for my sartorial eloquence, my closet full of haberdashery, my insistence on wearing on the labels of designers who sound like strange pasta. I am, therefore, uniquely qualified to evaluate today's presser. And Robin Givhan is still filing stories from Fashion Week.

I think Zorn's outfit today was terrible. Since there's a strong correlation between a man's suit and his competence (see Bill Belichick, dressed by Sears, and George W. Bush, dressed by Osh Kosh B'gosh), there is only one man who would have been an appropriate choice for head coach. A man whose closet is full of maroon suits, yellow shirts, and black fedoras.

I speak of Deion Sanders.

Discuss.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 10, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

The funny thing I'm seeing now? For a month Fassel was getting bashed like crazy on this blog..FOR A MONTH SOLID! Now that he is not hired...I have seen pro Fassel posts...are you serious? Damn take a position and make a stand like a man you flip flopping dumb a$$e$!

Posted by: leevi98 | February 10, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Isn't Buges the only guy the Skins have with actual HC experience now?

Posted by: Alan4 | February 10, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Yeah....ok, ya'll "fans" keep telling Snyder to sell the team, and watch what happens. The Washington Redskins, will be the Milwaukee Redskins or some sh** like that.

Snyder don't sell the team! Just fix it!

Posted by: rickyroge | February 10, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

OMG! People actually posting negatives on Zorn because he didn't say the colors right for you? What he was wearing? That he somehow didn't look confident to you? What you want him to do? ACT LIKE STEVE Spur did? Saying stuff like.."I'm giving Snyder the game ball when we beat Dallas" C'mon...I think the guy looked very excited to me...I think he looked grounded and down to earth...I think some of you are being just flat out dumb....I mean does any of those concerns have anything to do with coaching a football!

Posted by: leevi98 | February 10, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

rickyrouge,

enough "true fan" crap dude.....really.....no one person is the judge of "true fan" I mean how ridiculous does thatsound?!?!

Bully for you, you don't have issue with owner/FO etc...but that doesn't make you a better fan...

Posted by: clawrence | February 10, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

Watching the Pro Bowl on FF on TiVo. Caught the Cooley TD, what else did I miss?

Posted by: PDiddy | February 10, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Barno dude your beyond lame...sure I will dole out a HJ to snyder if Byner stays......

How could I disparage Snyder, he is such a salt of the earth dude.....

krissy larry

Posted by: clawrence | February 10, 2008 04:30 PM

How can you call someone else "lame" when you are the guy going on the internet cussing out someone about something over which you have no idea. You and that wannabe Puff Daddy are the 2 regular know it alls of this blog and yet you know next to nothing about what is really going on in these matters...just like the rest of us have no idea what is really going on regarding the Byner situation. But instead of acting responsibly, you jump to conclusions and cuss out the owner.

To me, that makes you pretty damn lame bro.

Posted by: Barno1 | February 10, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

On the tribute to Taylor by the defense in the first game after he died: "I thought to myself, 'Who could have thought something like that up, to play with 10 players on a play to honor a fallen teammate? It's pretty awesome when you think about it."

Gregg Williams, that's who. Wanna hire him?

Posted by: Alan4 | February 10, 2008 06:56 PM

THAT IS FALSE...That was NOT Greg's idea! It was the defensive players who thought this up...They ran it by Grag and he approved...In fact...I think Greg is a jackA$$ for this because he didn't have the courtesy to even tell His head coach and boss Joe Gibbs before giving them the go ahead...It's crap like that in his attitude and professionalism that he lost the potential position...You don't think that didn't run Gibbs wrong? It was flat out disrespectful is what it was...And now a few months later ...most in here, I see, have now changed the facts and stae that is was Williams idea...and that my friends is farther from the truth...Taylor's defensive players came up with that idea NOT GREG!

Posted by: leevi98 | February 10, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

So lets get some predictions, depending on the end of next season's record what will happen to Zorn. I am going in "ranges"
1-5 wins- FIRED (out of a cannon)
6-7 wins- HC job to Glam-Can-Cower but Zorn may stay on as OC.
8-10 wins- Zorn keeps HC job on a short leash.
10+ wins- Zorn keeps job and gets to bring in his own staff entirely.

Posted by: alex35332 | February 10, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

man people up here are a bit devoid of a sense of humor....the clothes comments were jokes people....remember those on RI???? where we tried to crack each other up instead of grind our on axes ad nuesium? Don't you get hairy palms for that....

And where are the pro-fassel comments....4th, who loves to aggregate skins news for the blog, posted a story by some one else at CBS...for us to read, wasn't his opinion...

the "love it or leave"..."shut up" crowd is mad shrill....

Posted by: clawrence | February 10, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Isn't Buges the only guy the Skins have with actual HC experience now?

Posted by: Alan4 | February 10, 2008 07:05 PM

Yup! And I bet Buges will be wearing the pants amongst the Offensive Coaches as well. He was never afraid to challenge Gibbs when doing the gameplan.

RI evidence exhibit A - They won't be changing any running plays nor terminology of the running plays.

You think that's what Zorn wanted??

Buges is THE MAN!!

Posted by: 4thFloor | February 10, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

barno, if you're going to create a list of blog know-it-alls, add yourself to the list.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 10, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Barno, the less you like me the better I feel bub....your dislike and weak cuts on me warm my soul and help me get up in the morning...

Krissy Larry (keep using this "cut down" my man...i love it and own it"

Posted by: clawrence | February 10, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

I don't know much about Zorn, but he's clearly a competent guy. However, taking your first head coaching job under little napoleon (complete with lower case letters, to drive home the point of his diminutive stature) is not a good career move. Just ask Norv, Marty, and Steve.

Posted by: adrienne_najjar | February 10, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

leevi, I like Zorn. I spend a lot of time of various Zorn sites. You would be impressed with my large Zorn collection.

Still, this hiring seems strange and anti-climactic... it's difficult to understand what they gained from this long process that couldn't have been gained by promoting Williams (whom, I do realize you think is a mediocre coordinator and a terrible HC) and hiring Zorn as the OC. That would have been a promotion for both of them.

I really hope this all works out, but it still smells fishy and impulsively planned.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 10, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Buges 4 ever!

Posted by: chrislarry | February 10, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Look, I think all of us want Zorn to be successful. The dude has been in the League forever, and had no business being considered for this job, but got it anyway. We all know good people who get overlooked because they're too nice and don't want to play the game. Zorn is one of those guys, and while he was obviously the last man standing, he got the job. Go Zorn!

The mistake about the colors, the banal recitation of Danbot talking points, the meandering answers, the inadvertent compliment to GG, the non sequitur involving Casey Rabach's butt, the deer in headlights look...all of those amount to a man who himself appears shocked he's up there. They were hardly the commanding presence the other 31 NFL field generals display (for better or worse). There was no bravado, no swagger, no cockiness. He was...Zorn. He is exactly like that in person. Again, more power to him.

We are fans of a sadsack, incompetent franchise. Most of us will never stop being fans. It's in our blood, part of our childhoods, often our fandom is an inheritance from our fathers. We're not going anywhere. Neither is this team. So we settle for our offseason carnival as a proxy for playoff success.

Just have fun with it.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 10, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Alan, your first sentence was brilliant. I nominate that for the BHOF. Blog Hall of Fame.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 10, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

It's crap like that in his attitude and professionalism that he lost the potential position...You don't think that didn't run Gibbs wrong? It was flat out disrespectful is what it was...And now a few months later ...most in here, I see, have now changed the facts and stae that is was Williams idea...and that my friends is farther from the truth...Taylor's defensive players came up with that idea NOT GREG!

Posted by: leevi98 | February 10, 2008 07:13 PM

I'm not going to pretend to know what happened in the locker room, as you seem to. All I know if coaches are paid to make decisions like that, not players.

But it's been reported numerous times that Gibbs encouraged Williams not to withdraw his name from the HC derby 3 times in a 4 day span, so it sounds like Gibbs got over not being notified about the 10 men. Why can't you?

Why do you think Gibbs kept pushing Williams to keep his name in the hat, and not withdraw? Is it because Gibbs thought he couldn't do the job (I don't remember your excuse when I mentioned this to you earlier)?

Posted by: Alan4 | February 10, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

leevi, I like Zorn. I spend a lot of time of various Zorn sites. You would be impressed with my large Zorn collection.

Still, this hiring seems strange and anti-climactic... it's difficult to understand what they gained from this long process that couldn't have been gained by promoting Williams (whom, I do realize you think is a mediocre coordinator and a terrible HC) and hiring Zorn as the OC. That would have been a promotion for both of them.

I really hope this all works out, but it still smells fishy and impulsively planned.

Posted by: Alan4 | February 10, 2008 07:20 PM

It's all good Alan4. Your right I am very happy they did not hire Greg...I liked him as Cord. but not as a head coach...he runs a very thin line...and rubs his players the wrong way at anytime...I was just not comfortable with him as the boss....You need a man in that position that has a bit of a more even temperament.

Don't get me wrong...I know your a huge fan like I am and I know you have a lot of knowlege and have good points and opinions. I respect that very mucg...I just don't like when everyone is so negative 100% of the time on this blog. It's not all bad in my eyes and I try to point those things out....I'm also over the Willimas stuff...everyone need sto let that go...it's over...he is JAg now...so he is now...enemy! :)

Posted by: leevi98 | February 10, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Hey Jason
You forgot to mention the big scoop of the afternoon, Skins colors are maroon, black and yellow!!!!!!

I guess Snyder is changing the colors to he can make more money off selling new merchandise.

Or could it be the this guy is so naive he cannot even get the colors right. I would say the press in DC would eat him alive. But you all are so far up Snyder's your know what you will let him coast, example you failing to mention he couldn't get the colors right.

His real problem will be the fans as unfortunately for Snyder and Zorn, we do know about football and are not going to take this anymore.

Posted by: kathymac1 | February 10, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, Diddy :-)

Posted by: Alan4 | February 10, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

How nice was it to see Art on the sideline today? What a swell fella.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 10, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: chrislarry | February 10, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

I'm not going to pretend to know what happened in the locker room, as you seem to. All I know if coaches are paid to make decisions like that, not players.

But it's been reported numerous times that Gibbs encouraged Williams not to withdraw his name from the HC derby 3 times in a 4 day span, so it sounds like Gibbs got over not being notified about the 10 men. Why can't you?

Why do you think Gibbs kept pushing Williams to keep his name in the hat, and not withdraw? Is it because Gibbs thought he couldn't do the job (I don't remember your excuse when I mentioned this to you earlier)?

Posted by: Alan4 | February 10, 2008 07:26 PM
I am not pretending to know inside the locker room either....I am going by multiple media reports in the days that followed that stated it was the players idea and Greg was being somewhat bashed a little about not letting Gibbs know of the defenses idea and going forth with it.

As far as Gibbs' endorsment...He has stated he was agreeing with the process this far. He may have been telling Greg ..it's not a good idea to pull yourself out because it looks bad on you as a professional. That is possible..like you stated "I'm not going to pretend to know what happened in the locker room" all we can do is go by what is being to,d to us...and I look more at the facts...not guessing...such as "If you wait until late in the process, in this case going after the Super Bowl, a lot of the key people will be signed up by different teams," Gibbs said. "Dan couldn't afford to wait or he was going to lose a lot of good coaches."
Gibbs, who has not participated in any of the interviews, defended the way Snyder is conducting the search.
"I've been staying quiet on the process out of respect for the process," Gibbs said. "Some people took that to mean I was disappointed. That's not the case at all. I want to emphasize that I think Dan has been very, very thorough. In the end, what's going to come out of this is that he's going to make a great choice for the Redskins."
http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080203/SPORTS01/950595422/1023&template=nextpage

Posted by: leevi98 | February 10, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

I seem to remember another team that hired a Holmgren prodigy in 1999 that had never been a cordinator that was the Eagles (Andy Read) and all they have done since is win 5 NFC east championships and go to the Superbowl and if I recall the owner got ripped for it so lets wait and see what happens.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 10, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Leevi and everyone else on the 10 man tribute. It happened and GG should have told Gibbs.

But I highly doubt there was any intended disrespect involved.

Anyone who has dealt with a tragedy knows that it is hard to keep focused and meet every protocol. For all we know, GG actually told Gibbs and Gibbs didn't hear it, and GG took the fall for a guy he respects. I've been in that type of situation and people tell me what they said later on ... I didn't even recall seeing them, let alone what they said.

In times like that, we don't always do the 'right' thing, even if our hearts are in the right place.

There is ZERO doubt that Gibbs would have approved of the 10 men tribute.

Anyone who thinks this should have been a big issue needed to grow up.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 10, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

I seem to remember another team that hired a Holmgren prodigy in 1999 that had never been a cordinator that was the Eagles (Andy Read) and all they have done since is win 5 NFC east championships and go to the Superbowl and if I recall the owner got ripped for it so lets wait and see what happens.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 10, 2008 07:34 PM

NICE! good post as always.....just stating the fatcs :)

Posted by: leevi98 | February 10, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

We are fans of a sadsack, incompetent franchise. Most of us will never stop being fans. It's in our blood, part of our childhoods, often our fandom is an inheritance from our fathers. We're not going anywhere. Neither is this team. So we settle for our offseason carnival as a proxy for playoff success.

Just have fun with it.

Posted by: PDiddy | February 10, 2008 07:22 PM

Agree 100%. Living in New Mexico, I became a fan in 78 because I HATE THE COWGIRLS and grew to love the Skins. I am a die hard Skins fan and will support them inspite of the FO!!

Some on this blog need a HIT!!!

Posted by: kerzon417 | February 10, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

"But I highly doubt there was any intended disrespect involved"

Posted by: zcezcest1 | February 10, 2008 07:35 PM

Not once did i say he "intended" to do it on purpose...I staed it was unprofessional not to let his Boss know about it before going ahead and giving an ok...

Posted by: leevi98 | February 10, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Leevi,

I was wondering how many Burgubdy suits you have you were correct they found something else to cry about. The tie looks gold to me it might be yellow but I did not know we were hiring him for his fashion sense I thought he was are football coach.

Posted by: kmdp4 | February 10, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

One word of advice for Zorn: Rent.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | February 10, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse


Come to think of it, Deion Sanders has a nice burgundy suit. Remember when he broke that bad boy out when joining the Skins. He should have been the coach.

Seriously, I will give JZ time and will hope for the best. It could turn out to be good. I like the offensive part, I like that he was a successful player, but it seems like like he has no idea what he is stepping into with Redskin Nation. I don't think he realizes how rabid the fan base is, and how many of us bleed maroon and yellow. I do like the immediate and liberal use of "Dan" instead of that ridiculous "Mr. Snyder" nonsense. I hope he'll knock heads with VC from time to time when needed.

Posted by: chrisjohn91 | February 10, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse

where can I get a brandon loyd maroon,black and yellow jersey?wasnt that the hamberg seadogs colors

Posted by: DLESMonday | February 10, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Enough already about Zorn's suit. Geez.....seems like some of you have to complain about something all the time. If he had shown up in a burgundy suit you would have criticized that as well....calling it "cheesy."

Posted by: Lisa_R | February 10, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

I've been a fan for a long, long time. Back to the George Allen days.

Listened to Joe Gibbs try and put a positive spin on all of this today on XXX -and he was very, very unconvincing and disappointing.

As nothing more than a quarterback and quarterback coach Zorn would have been seriously, seriously challenged as an OC next year. HC???? Come on. Has anyone ever heard his name mentioned to fill any other coaching vacancy around the NFL? (-look how quickly Al and Gregg got hired, has anybody ever heard Zorn's name in conjunction these other recent vacancies? Miami, Atlanta etc..)

Anyway you spin this - it smells bad.

-Owner and Vinny - in his business daily and he doesn't have the experience or clout of Gibbs or Cowher to tell them to butt out.
-He'll have little time to work with JC. The time he spends with him is time away from the rest of the team.
-Completely new Offense.
-He's leading 53 men, not one or two quarterbacks.
-He has never put together an offensive game plan, much less coordinated an entire teams plan.
-I'm sure he is a very nice guy who Matt H loves.

Face it, except for Spagnola he was at the top of the bottom third of coaching choices.

I feel really bad for him and the players and I wish I could see something positive in this, but as long as Vinny is working for the Redskins and Dan has his fingers in it, I'm afraid the Redskins got the best they are ever going to get under Joe Gibbs II.

Posted by: chargersix | February 10, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Andy Reid was only a Corner Back coach prior to being a head coach and he's done pretty good. I'm excited about the opportunity to see a up and coming coach make a name for himself... at least that is what I'm hoping for.

Posted by: JustinBaker | February 10, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

The comment by Zorn that the center needs to get his azz up so that JC can be more explosive was highly illuminating! Did he get that from Synder or Vinny? And was this problem identified during the interview process?

Posted by: skinsfan7 | February 10, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse


chargersix, you're right to be disappointed in the Gibbs voice of support for the pick and the process. Come on dude, you don't have to be a syncophant now. Joe is an awesome, legendary coach in chapter one, a decent man by all accounts, and no one better at handling a team in crisis, but you really have to wince at some of the puff pr he spouts. He loves nascar way more than football too, of course that's his right, but it bothers a bit because I thought he quit the team to spend more time at home. Gibbs 2.0 really was not a good run at all I've been bleeding maroon and yellow dating back to the 70s, and can't ever recall anywhere near the same level of bile and frustration as we had under him over the last four years) While there were a couple good streaks, time and time again he as a coach clearly cost us games with piss poor game and clock management. I hope Zorn works out. I can't take another 15 years of our team in the wilderness.

Posted by: chrisjohn91 | February 10, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

I'm comfortable with the selection of Jim Zorn. It seems to me his football background is somewhat analogus to Joe Gibbs' when he arrived. He will be a 'home grown' head coach so to speak who, with success, would be here many years (similar to Gibb's tenure). So next season will be very interesting for fans, to say the least, and that's half the battle.

Advice/request for Coach Zorn. Joe Gibb's always place a lot of stock on being able to run the ball. I believe you have heard of the "hogs." If you are under informed, I am sure Boss Hog can bring you up to speed. So just develop the best run blocking O-line in the league. At an opportune time in a game your first season, burn a possession by trying to score a touchdown by just running the ball. Fake the pass, no problem. But just line up and pound it up the field. Not a single pass attempt. (It would be interesting if that would be some kind of record.) The thinking here is, if your offense can do that, it covers a multitude of sins and sets up other facets.

The running game, however, is the number 2 priority. The first priority is defense. Every touchdown prevented is one your offence doesn't have to score. Here is a cool final score for you, 3 to 0, Redskins (even better would be 2 to 0!) Exhibit A for this recommendation is the Superbowl Giants. In this regard, I would only remind you that the Skins have never 'replaced' Dexter Manley.

Nothing is guaranteed in life, but I like Mr. Snyder's decision.

Posted by: vls | February 10, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

You know what though, this just might get us out of the "laughing stock of the league" category:
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10632960

And this isn't exactly a blazing article, but it's not rippin us either
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ihZdNlPaT6P3piXU-80m1vLKnK0AD8UNP3QO2

Posted by: craig2 | February 10, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

If Knox didn't think he could coach, that should tell you something.

They've fallen, and they can't get up.

Posted by: info | February 10, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Here are my problems:

1) No one has ever talked about Jim Zorn as head coach material until a day ago. That includes his "well-managed" team. In fact, he coached there from 2001-2007 and they chose ANOTHER coach, Jim Mora, to be the heir apparent to Mike Holmgren. So when Danny touts the track record of Mike Holmgren assistants, keep in mind Holmgren passed him over as head coach of his own team, after getting to know him for 6 years, Jim Mora just one (as DB coach).

2) This is same Jim Mora who was fired in Atlanta. The Redskins not a devalued job? We hired a coach who couldn't get the Seattle job. We hired a coach who people knew for 6 years and then passed over for the coach fired from Atlanta.

3) Mora was an unprofessional doof here in Atlanta. Too chummy with the players, no discipline. Had one winning season in his three years with the team, a gaudy 11-5, and that riding the team Dan Reeves built before being fired. Team got progressively worse each of the three years he coached it. And Holmgren picks him over our savior.

4) Oh, it's a lot like the Gibbs hire? But that was Bobby Beatherd doing the picking. You know, GM for 7 Super Bowl teams. This was Beavis and Butthead. You know, nine years, 5 coaches.

Posted by: minorthread | February 10, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Give Zorn a chance look at Andy Reid he went from a quarterback coach to a head coach and he has had success same for Steve Mariucci and Jon Gruden and they all studied under Mike Holmgren.You all in DC just need to chill out and give Zorn a chance.

Posted by: seahawkfan206 | February 10, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Like everyone here, I'm rooting for Zorn to make it. However, it's very clear that his easygoing personality, and lack of experience made him attractive to Dan and Vinny, which makes it easier for them to control him.
Gregg Williams was far too strong-willed and would challenge Snyder's bull@#$&.
I hope Dan and Vinny at least had the good sense to get Holmgren's honest opinion on whether he felt Zorn has the goods for the head coaching role. Maybe Gibbs' long time relationship with Holmgren helped out here.

Posted by: RollyMac | February 10, 2008 10:22 PM | Report abuse


I think Jim Fassel now knows what it feels like to be a Redskin fan in the Snyder era.

BAMBOOZLED by SNYDER (and Vinny Me)

Posted by: the_squire | February 10, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse

ZORN, ZORK, ZIPPY, ZONK, BLAM WOW-WE !! What's nexy, Vinney....Britney Spears OC ?? I wish jay-Z the best, can we trade owners ??

Posted by: aginsburg | February 10, 2008 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Coach Zorn, I am behind you 100%, i love the hire and think this will lead to great things with the Washington Redskins.

Posted by: macphersonmedia | February 11, 2008 1:45 AM | Report abuse

Ahhh! Snyder finally found a puppet in Jim
Zorn. In the meantime, let's have a moment of silence for the Redskins next season. I predict a 2-14 season and another head coaching carousel. The Skins might be doomed forever unless there is an ownership change.

Posted by: livebig_22311 | February 11, 2008 5:50 AM | Report abuse

Voodoo

Let's give the guy a chance. C'mon, how much of head coaching is all about voodoo anyway.

Look at Belichick's career. How about Parcells? And Caughlin up in New York.

Trying to predict who's gonna succeed is like trying to predict the stock market.

Zorn needs to exert strong leadership, not get too rattled, don't suck up to anyone, be an even keeled leader, and exert good discipline, promote good character on the team, and emody the values he wants on the team. Avoid the drama queen routine and don't get too caught up in the media/BS side of it all.

If he does that, he'll do all right.

Posted by: Craazyman | February 11, 2008 6:51 AM | Report abuse

The promotion of Jim Zorn after all the hoopla is simply put in 2 words: DAMAGE CONTROL.
Thats what marketing people do to eliminate the hatred and bad publicity.

Posted by: otutmo | February 11, 2008 7:41 AM | Report abuse

Man some of you guys are taking this way to seriously. I love this guy, he is fun and down to earth, and compared to some of the stuffy coaches we could have gotten, he is a breath of fresh air. He has an authenticity about him that I just find likable. Yeah he screwed the colors up, give the man a break, he's been doing REAL football work. You know, figuring out how to get production out of the offense? I'm sure the team has someone to help them with their wardrobe for games.

Posted by: Veretax | February 11, 2008 7:41 AM | Report abuse

"Posted by: Veretax | February 11, 2008 07:41 AM

Man some of you guys are taking this way to seriously."

Then why'd you have something to say .


We are just saying that Dan the Pr..k , had to find a way out and jim zorn was/is the fall guy

Posted by: otutmo | February 11, 2008 8:17 AM | Report abuse

Tell me the dream is over! Tell me I will be waking up soon!

Posted by: wizardman | February 11, 2008 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Doubt if anybody noticed, but I've long since taken Old School's approach to the draft as my approach to the head coaching search ... it doesn't matter who it is, as long as its the right guy (with a reservation for 20/20 hindsight).

From the stuff Springs said about no-nonsensism and hard work, sounds like there is enough "tough love" in the mix. Won't find out for sure till someone challenges him in a way that crosses the line and gets doghoused (or fired). Also, will be interesting to find out where the "line" is with Zorn.

I subscribe to the theory that Zorn probably was the least threatening to Vinny Cerrato. We'll see how far Coach Zorn's fabled candor, honesty, no nonsense gets him as his working relationship develops with the FO.

I also read about how Zorn wants to talk with EVERY guy on the roster over the next few days. Seems quite ambitious (maybe an overshot). Seems like direct talks with the starters plus about ten rotators should be sufficient.

Biggest concern to me would be the playbook, i.e., getting one written ... which makes the OC search (which now has to compete with the Combine) way way important.

Its going to be a rough and wild ride for Coach Zorn, esp. at first ... not only facing a 90 degree learning curve (screw asimtotes approaching infinity, such as), but also dealing with THIS front office AND making it up as he goes along as a head coach ... at the SAME TIME as losing whatever connection he's had with his kids. Sure hope that Mrs. Zorn is an energetic and forgiving wife, and that his kids are football fans.

I am prepared to forgive a 0-5 (maybe 0-6) start ... and it won't necessarily be players, but rather figuring out what the new offense will be. Just need to go 3-3 in the Division, win all of December, and half of November.

That said, I'm glad that it seems like the Skins might actually have a coach with whom they can start building something long term.

Posted by: dcsween | February 11, 2008 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Wasn't the coach at Green Bay a quarterback coach at San Francisco before moving directly to head coach of the Packers? That seemed to work out pretty good for Green Bay. I hope Zorn works out the same way!

Posted by: jimwell | February 11, 2008 10:10 AM | Report abuse

"Our coach has the final say on the roster, has the final say in the draft room and free agency," Snyder said. "If they don't want 'em, we don't bring 'em in." (Snyder quote)

Comment: the EVP of Football Operations does not have control?

Seems to be some confusion from Cerrato's promotion and Zorn's hiring...

Mr. LaCanfora, please clarify.

Posted by: dsda3731 | February 11, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

I was out of patience with the process. But I love the way it turned out. And I believe Snyder's story. It helps that Gibbs verifies that story, and surely you don't believe Gibbs would lie about it... whatever you think about Snyder. Cerrato really liked Zorn, from the combine on.
And Zorn was recommended by both Fassel and Williams. They thought they had found their offensive coordinator and not the head coach, because Zorn has only been a quarterbacks' coach before. Snyder said he would go through the process of interviewing all of the potential candidates thoroughly, and that took them beyond the Super Bowl to accomplish. I really think they were trying to find someone with some of Gibbs' better characteristics. It is said that after every interview, Cerrato said 'Zorn'. Snyder told Gibbs that Zorn would make a great head coach. If they were really taken with him, one could easily see why they'd go through the whole interview process weighing him against everyone else on their list. They had to do that, because he is inexperienced. I'm ultimately pleased with what they've done, and I, like they, hope it turns out well. As Zorn said, it's up to him now to earn our respect. But like many fans, I'm behind him and want him to do well.

Posted by: olavsmith | February 11, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

"Our coach has the final say on the roster, has the final say in the draft room and free agency," Snyder said. "If they don't want 'em, we don't bring 'em in." (Snyder quote)

Comment: the EVP of Football Operations does not have control?

Seems to be some confusion from Cerrato's promotion and Zorn's hiring...

Mr. LaCanfora, please clarify.

Posted by: dsda3731 | February 11, 2008 10:39 AM


Why the demand for an absolute hierarchy? If you don't trust Cerrato absolutely, you should be happy. This was the structure that Gibbs put in place: people actually working together. Cerrato supervises the personnel department and makes recommendations, but doesn't cram them down the coaches' throats. Why should Blache have a player on defense that he doesn't think would fit? Why should Zorn have anyone on the team that he doesn't think would fit. Shouldn't they have veto power, and the power to make recommendations as well? Shouldn't a grown group of men be able to go into a meeting and come to a consensus? Why is this so hard to accept?

Posted by: olavsmith | February 11, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

GREG WILLIAMS IT WAS SO OBVIOUS THE DANNY NEEDS TO LEAVE

Posted by: Heo3692 | February 11, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

If you think the Redskins have turned the corner, what would you have said after 2005. In other words, they were 6-10 in Gibbs first year and 10-6 with a win in the playoffs in his second. If he had quit then, the Redskins fans would have been insisting on a second bust in Canton. But, lookout, 5-11 the following year. The Redskins made a nice little run at the end off the year due to the energy following Sean Taylor's death and some great quarterback play from Todd Collins. We probably won't have either next year. Zorn starts from scratch and should get credit for any positive accomplishments going forward.

Posted by: WESANDAGGIE | February 11, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

From now on let's call "The Danny" and "The Vinny" by their correct name, Fric and Frac.

Posted by: WESANDAGGIE | February 11, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Interesting that Goodell was calling to check up on Danny Boy. Seems like the NFL too has figured out that Snyder and Cerrato are in need of adult supervision. I can't imagine that the league is too thrilled about having one of their signature franchises become a three ring circus.

Posted by: poguesmahone | February 11, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

"I said we'd be thorough and we'd conduct a full process and we did," Snyder said. "We did just what we said we'd do."

Does anyone else become immediately irate when Dan Snyder speaks. Like this was his master plan all along!!! How stupid does he think we are??

But it does look like he got his company man...

"I'm very excited that Dan and all those involved kept the continuity here before the head coach got here, and now we've got a solid group and we can absolutely go hard and fast into the free agency, into the [scouting] combine, into the draft and then with our offseason program," Zorn said. "It's going to be much more comfortable for me in this situation than it would be starting from scratch."

This whole thing makes me sick. I've already mentally prepared myself for another 5-11 year and a new head coach come next February.

Posted by: tcerand | February 11, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Whos is going to be the Offensive Coordinator? Have we heard or any thoughts...ESPN said possibly Brian Billick...any word?

Posted by: mhartz1 | February 11, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: tcerand | February 11, 2008 01:11 PM

Totally with you on become irrate when Snyder speaks about this process like it was all his master plan.

But i see our record next year more along the lines of 16-0

Posted by: SeanTay77 | February 11, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Coach Zorn could not make me happier. Win or lose it should be a different game. Can't wait. Good luck Mr. Zorn.

Posted by: birdytom | February 11, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

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4) Oh, it's a lot like the Gibbs hire? But that was Bobby Beatherd doing the picking. You know, GM for 7 Super Bowl teams. This was Beavis and Butthead. You know, nine years, 5 coaches.
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Outstanding post Minor Thread. We have no hope until Beavis ditches Butthead, hires a GM, and stays out of the way. Dan Snyder- who do you think you are?

Posted by: jddeyoung | February 12, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

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