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Vincent Jackson's suspension could drop to four games

Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan would not rule out pursuing San Diego receiver Vincent Jackson on Thursday but noted that "we don't talk about people as well, for obvious reasons."

The NFL ruled earlier Thursday that Jackson's six-game suspension would be only four games if the Chargers manage to trade him. Jackson has been locked in a contract dispute with the Chargers, and if they trade him, he could be available in Week 5.

Shanahan offered few hints as to his intentions. "We'll always be trying to upgrade our football team, if that presented itself. We have people evaluating different people on teams all the time," Shanahan said. "You never know when a trade does work out or when you can get somebody to help your football team. But that's part of the process."

Reports have indicated that the Redskins have an interest in Jackson. And the preseason games and first regular-season game would seem to indicate that they still have the need. Santana Moss was the only receiver to notch more than one catch last week against the Cowboys. The team's other starter, 38-year-old Joey Galloway, was targeted just once and didn't have a reception in his Redskins' debut.

Shanahan said the fact that Jackson would not be available immediately will surely weigh on some team's decision.

"Obviously, you'd want a guy who could come in and help you right away over a guy who'd be suspended for four games," he said. "I'm sure that people who do make up their mind obviously will weight the strengths and the weaknesses and make the decisions based on what's best for their organization."

By Rick Maese  |  September 16, 2010; 4:15 PM ET
 
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All well and good, but has anyone seen him run the 300-yard shuttles yet?

Doesn't make much difference when he might be available -- especially if he won't show up in shape.

I say pass on the Dude -- especially since we already have enough Drama Queens in the locker room to stage our own production of Camelot.

Posted by: Vic1 | September 16, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the "Double Post" JR. At least we aren't the only ones guilty of that.

There are many other VJ's I'd rather have than this drunk driving deuchebag. Some of these are but not limited to:

-Veronica Johnson
-Van Jones
-any MTV VJ
-Victoria Jackson
-Vincent John

As far as Jacksons, I'd rather go for:

-Jesse Jackson
-Michael Jackson
-Samuel L. Jackson
-Reggie Jackson

....Hell, I'll take Tito Jackson just to keep that wino out of our locker room.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | September 16, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

"I'll take Tito Jackson just to keep that wino out of our locker room."


wino in locker room: Sorry to hear 'bout your brotha.

Tito Jackson in a football unit but with a guitar: Yeah, it does suck that he's underground in a box away from normal people.

But, when you think about it, something about it is not really that unusual for him.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 16, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Trade for VJax, he's doing me no good on my FF bench

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 16, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

"I say pass on the Dude -- especially since we already have enough Drama Queens in the locker room to stage our own production of Camelot."

San Diego isn't the same team without him.

If they can trade for him they really should. Past Moss and Cooley this team has NO WR's what so ever. Instead of thowing to Armstrong deep in the corner of the endzone, they would be throwing to Jackson.

A 6'5" that can run like a deer is very hard to come by, even in the NFL. Getting him would also open up the running game.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | September 16, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

This seems to contradict what RI is reporting with regards to AH.

Haynesworth exits injury report

Posted by Mike Florio on September 16, 2010 4:25 PM ET

Redskins defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth landed on the injury report on Wednesday, practicing on a limited basis with an ankle injury. A day later, his ankle is sufficiently fine for Haynesworth to disappear from the report entirely.

All Redskins players practiced on Thursday; only safety Kareem Moore (knee) was limited.

Fully participating were quarterback Donovan McNabb (ankle), running back Clinton Portis (wrist), and linebacker Perry Riley (foot).

For the Texans, defensive tackle Amobi Okoye missed practice with an ankle injury, a day after practicing on a limited basis. Limited were tight end Owen Daniels (knee), cornerback Antwuan Molden (ankle), and defensive end Mario Williams (groin).

Five injured Texans fully participated in practice, including safety Dominique Barber (shoulder), tackle Duane Brown (hamstring), fullback Vonta Leach (neck), receiver Kevin Walter (hip), and safety Eugene Wilson (back).

Posted by: Diesel44 | September 16, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

It's freaking groundhog day w/ the VJack trade nonsense.

WR is a need but this isn't the guy. The acquisition cost is too high, the contract he's seeking doesn't equal his level of pay, and he has too many red flags.

With all of our needs (NT, 3-4 DE, OLB, C, RB, WR, etc) we need all of our picks. We currently have a 1, 2, 5, 6, 7. Sending SD a 2nd for his services and the making him on of the highest paid WRs was the past regime's MO. You would think that most of you would have learned from the whole AH debacle, apparently not..

If he's available as a FA this offseason that's another story as long as he and his agent have reasonable contract demands.

Posted by: Diesel44 | September 16, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Playaction - sorry, wasn't calling you a pansy, per se.

Red - 3rd nipple fan are we?

Posted by: Rypien11 | September 16, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

trade for brian westbrook i'm pretty sure dc is a place people want to come to for the first time in years but don't sign jackson i hope the skins have learned something from albert

Posted by: southportwave | September 16, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

A 6'5" that can run like a deer is very hard to come by, even in the NFL. Getting him would also open up the running game.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | September 16, 2010 4:56 PM


Anthony Mix is available.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: freakzilla | September 16, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Red - 3rd nipple fan are we?

Posted by: Rypien11 | September 16, 2010 5:19 PM

Why not? Although I think he was referring to a second woman.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 16, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Red - 3rd nipple fan are we?

Posted by: Rypien11 | September 16, 2010 5:19 PM

Why not? Although I think he was referring to a second woman.

Posted by: beep-beep
____________

Or recalling Total Recall.

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | September 16, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

I dunno bout vjax but I wonder what the pats would want for Randy Moss?

Posted by: warriorking1112 | September 16, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

DT11 and a pick (4th??) for VJax??????

Here's hoping.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | September 16, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

I see from above we dont have a 4th (this year). Anyway, I'd love to have VJax, and the Chargers may see some value in DT11.

AJ Smith has got to know that VJAX isn't coming throught those doors, ever. He needs to get soemthing for him while the getting is good.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | September 16, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: beep-beep
____________

Or recalling Total Recall.

Posted by: Oogalaboogala | September 16, 2010 5:31 PM

You know it was made out of paper mache.
Sincerely,
Quagmire

Posted by: HokiesSkins | September 16, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Personally don't think VJ is worth the steeping asking price and big contract demands...just curious though- if you trade for a suspended player, he can practice with the team right?

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | September 16, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

TRADE FOR THE MOTHER EFFER!

Posted by: mrhney03 | September 16, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

sfik-

Not sure theres a market for a guy like DT. He can't beat out the Joey Gallaways, Anthony Armstrongs, & Roydell Williams of the world. This guy has had OTAs, Camp, preseason, & practice to make an impression on KS & MS and the lasting impression that he's made...He doesn't prepare and practice like a professional.

Potential doesn't cut it and I think Banks would have done more with those KRs last week.

Posted by: Diesel44 | September 16, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Potential doesn't cut it and I think Banks would have done more with those KRs last week.

Posted by: Diesel44 | September 16, 2010 6:07 PM

Yeah he would have gone at least another ten yards before he got hit and fumbled.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 16, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

DT and a 4th seems like wishful thinking when Brandon Marshal commands 2 1st rounders...granted, VJ is suspended 4 games and his numbers are a bit lower (comparable yds/TDs, fewer catches) but they'll want more than a 4th and an unproven WR. I'm thinking a 2nd and 3rd would be the minimum they'd consider as far as picks. What about 3 way deal with Tenn-SD-Was? We give up 92 and a 3rd?

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | September 16, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

What about 3 way deal with Tenn-SD-Was? We give up 92 and a 3rd?

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | September 16, 2010 6:26 PM


Why would we give up a pick? If it's a 3 way, then we get VJ, the Titans get AH back and SD gets whatever pick the Titans are willing to give up. Then the question is whether the Titans will be willing to give up a 2nd for AH. So far, they haven't.

Maybe sending DT and a conditional 2012 pick (preferably something in later rounds) could get it done. I'm for making a deal if the price is right...overpaying for VJ would be a mistake.

And for those who keep saying "VJ's asking price is too high"...dude never made a contract demand. Never put a number out there. A.J. Smith has been posturing and spreading false information to f*ck with VJ. So in reality, we have no idea what VJ is asking for.

Part of me hopes that Smith keeps dicking around like this. VJ hits the open market next year and we can snap him up then, no picks involved.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 16, 2010 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Notorious_LMG

Sorry Eddie, but Bmarsh was traded for 2 2nds....

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | September 16, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

bw26-

John Clayton: Seahawks Pass on Vincent Jackson

John Clayton said Vincent Jackson and his agent were asking for a 5 year, $50 mil contract with $30 mil guaranteed. Looks like Schneider said "no".

Posted by: Diesel44 | September 16, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

The thing that stood out last Sunday was that the Redskins won on effort, not necessarily superior talent. Every player, excepting you know who, was busting butt and it was obvious the Skins wanted the game more than Dallas. The talent gap can't be closed overnight; it will be a long process but one that I feel the coaches have us going on the right track. To throw VJ into this group would be an added and unnecessary disruption to that process. Got enough of that already from his Fatness. Let's give Thomas, Banks, and Austin the chance they've worked so hard for.

Posted by: bones21 | September 16, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

From Jason Whitlock column earlier today re: Redskins, "It’s a bad team. The Redskins will finish closer to 1-16 than 8-8."

Dang, that's just wrong. I don't think he is remotely close to being correct.

Posted by: will_ga | September 16, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Diesel, that's what I'm talking about...the Seahawks got those numbers from A.J. Smith, not from VJ and his agent. PFT had this a few weeks ago:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/28/vincent-jacksons-agent-denies-report-of-five-year-50-million-demand/

The key quote from his agent: "There's no truth to the report that we asked for $50 million over five years and $30 million guaranteed," Schwartz told PFT by phone this morning. "We only talked concepts with the Seahawks, and I specifically mentioned players like [Cowboys receiver] Roy Williams, [Bills receiver] Lee Evans, [Falcons receiver] Roddy White, who we represent, [Dolphins receiver] Brandon Marshall, and [Cardinals receiver] Larry Fitzgerald. No numbers were mentioned."

I know it's his agent and you probably can't take all he says at face value. But it seems to me if those numbers were ever uttered, it was the high starting point and not a firm demand. You can talk him down from those numbers because I don't think there's a team in the league that would pay him that.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 16, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

From Jason Whitlock column earlier today re: Redskins, "It’s a bad team. The Redskins will finish closer to 1-16 than 8-8."

Dang, that's just wrong. I don't think he is remotely close to being correct.

Posted by: will_ga | September 16, 2010 7:00 PM


Will, keep in mind that this is Whitlock...the guy who has a mind boner for Jeff George and still thinks he can play in the league at age 42. Plus he's been in KC for so long that he probably has a bias against Shanahan from his Denver days. I used to like Whitlock but that dude is so far gone it's not even funny anymore...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 16, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

bw26- good find. AJ Smith is a dastardly fellow. I can see both sides playing games with the numbers.

I like VJ's game but I would only make a run at him as a FA. 5 yrs 30-35 mil range.

Posted by: Diesel44 | September 16, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

AJ Smith can either get something for jackson, or get nothing. He wont get marshal type compensation. He is behind the 8 ball. Everybody knows VJax will NOT g obac kto teh Chargers for the pittance they are offering, and that he will be a FA at teh end of the year anyway.

To me, VJax is a half step below Marshall and Johnson with guys like Miles Austin, Roddy White.

Let me be clear, I don't mind paying Vjax, but AJ can pound sand if he wants more than a second.

At the end of the day DT11 is a great athlete; perhaps the Chargers would see something they can work with rather than getting nothing for Jackson. Perhaps not, maybe they see DT11 as a big fast guy who is simply too stupid to "get" what it means to be a professional WR in the NFL.

If the Vikings want to overpay AJ for the right to sign VJax to a deal, let them.

VJax, Moss and Armstrong along with Cooley and Davis would not suck.

Kinda reminds me of Houston with Johnson, Jones, Walter, and Daniels.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | September 16, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Good stuff today guys....

I think paying him is no problem....

Its dans money, not mine......

The draft picks is where I'm concerned...

I say our 5th this yr n 2nd next yr...

If he walks as a free agent they get a third

This way they get extra we keep our top picks this yr.

The three way to tenn sounds good also...

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | September 16, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

The thing that stood out last Sunday was that the Redskins won on effort, not necessarily superior talent. Every player, excepting you know who, was busting butt and it was obvious the Skins wanted the game more than Dallas. The talent gap can't be closed overnight; it will be a long process but one that I feel the coaches have us going on the right track. To throw VJ into this group would be an added and unnecessary disruption to that process. Got enough of that already from his Fatness. Let's give Thomas, Banks, and Austin the chance they've worked so hard for.

Posted by: bones21
There will not be many more wins like Sunday. They cannot expect every team's coaching staff to be incompetent. They are going to have to increase the talent. The current talent is 7 or 8 win level.

Not sure that giving up a lot in picks is a good idea as the team is going to have a ton of holes the next few years. Already short on picks as it is.

Brandon Marshall was worth 2 2nd rounders. VJ should be worth probably a 2nd and 4th. He is not as productive and it is in season and he is suspended 4 games.

Posted by: srobert1117 | September 16, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

The cowboys were very fortuenate they were in that game at the end.

1st and goal at the 12 yielded zero points.

Next to last drive to victory formation was thwarted by the mysto "Cooley was moving forward" illegal procedure call to overturn a 1st down.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | September 16, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

http://broodingburgundy.com/post/1115972890/enraged-dallas-fan

In case anyone hasn't seen this, it's hilarious. Gotta love an irate Cowboys fan.

Posted by: will_ga | September 16, 2010 8:02 PM | Report abuse

From Jason Whitlock column earlier today re: Redskins, "It’s a bad team. The Redskins will finish closer to 1-16 than 8-8."


Posted by: will_ga | September 16, 2010 7:00 PM

How do we go 1-16? We have to lose our next 15 games, plus a playoff game. We have to be closer to 8-8 than to this outcome.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 16, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

The three-way could have some merit, but let's not revert to the Vinny get-rich-quick mode and mortgage what few picks we have next year. We've proven over the years that doesn't work and I think Shanny/Allen were brought here to cure us of our historical shortsightedness.

Posted by: bones21 | September 16, 2010 8:05 PM | Report abuse

There will not be many more wins like Sunday. They cannot expect every team's coaching staff to be incompetent. They are going to have to increase the talent. The current talent is 7 or 8 win level.

Posted by: srobert1117

Sort of. We've got pretty good talent, as you'd know if you'd read the season preview of ZEKE'S UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES. Our defense alone has 7 key players who went in the top 15 of their draft class.

Thing is, coaching DOES matter in the NFL more than any other sport. We saw how Joe Gibbs struggled on the sidelines in his return, and he looked like a genius compared to Zorn.

Other teams may have better coaches than wade, but I don't think we ever play a team with a coach that is as good as Shanahan.

The coaches we face that I think are in Shanahan's league are:
reid, Fisher

Good coaches a notch below:
coughlin, McCarthy, Childress

They aren't close:
Morris, Lovie Smith, wade, del Rio, Kubiak

The jury is still out:
Spags, Schwartz, Cadwell

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 16, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

I know they a lot of JC haters on this blog and they got they fix when the dud turned in his usual sucko performance in leading the Raidahs down to defeat v the Titans. He snagged a QB rating of 69 with a puny 5 yds per passing attempt while his counter part for the Titans, VY, cruised along with a QB rating of 142. The Brandon Lloyd haters didn't have it so good though. The dude was the leading receiver for the Broncs with 5 catches for 120 yds even though they lost to the Jags. This comes subsequent to some poor blogger being vicously pummelled on this blog for suggesting there might be reason for hope after the dude's debacle with the Skins. One of the blog's primo haters, scampbell1975, had referred to Lloyd as "straight garbo". Of course he is also thick headed (dude, A&W called, they want to use you in one of their commercials!), which probably goes hand-in-hand with being a hater.

Posted by: Yammerstein | September 16, 2010 8:15 PM | Report abuse

The Brandon Lloyd haters didn't have it so good though. The dude was the leading receiver for the Broncs with 5 catches for 120 yds even though they lost to the Jags.

Posted by: Yammerstein | September 16, 2010 8:15 PM

Five receptions for the Broncos, and that's his career day?

This is Brandon Lloyd's eighth season in the league. He's had 169 receptions, about 21 per year. He isn't on anyone's FF team. If he's not straight garbo, who is?

Posted by: beep-beep | September 16, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

beep-beep, I think Whitlock meant that we'll be so bad that we'll somehow find a way to lose an extra, nonexistent game.

Or perhaps he's just such an ignoramus that he can't even do basic math.

My money's on the latter.

Posted by: freakzilla | September 16, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Sort of. We've got pretty good talent, as you'd know if you'd read the season preview of ZEKE'S UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES. Our defense alone has 7 key players who went in the top 15 of their draft class.

Thing is, coaching DOES matter in the NFL more than any other sport. We saw how Joe Gibbs struggled on the sidelines in his return, and he looked like a genius compared to Zorn.

Other teams may have better coaches than wade, but I don't think we ever play a team with a coach that is as good as Shanahan.

The coaches we face that I think are in Shanahan's league are:
reid, Fisher

Good coaches a notch below:
coughlin, McCarthy, Childress

They aren't close:
Morris, Lovie Smith, wade, del Rio, Kubiak

The jury is still out:
Spags, Schwartz, Cadwell

Posted by: zcezcest1

Shanahan is a top 10 coach. There is not much separating the top 10 after BB. I also think Fisher and Coughlin are better coaches. Fisher is a great coach. Coughlin has had successful runs with a couple of franchises. I was not talking about Shanahan getting out coached as much as Sunday was more about the incompetence of the Dallas staff. I doubt they see a team gift wrap a game like that the rest of the season.

Talent wise on defense. I don't look at where players are drafted as a measure of talent Studs: Orakpo and Haynesworth if he plays hard. Very good: Fletcher Better than average: Hall, Landry Average: Rogers, Carter(would be above Average in 4-3)Below Average: Carriker, Maake, other DE, other safety.

I am not a huge fan of Landry. I think he has tremendous potential. I think he tries to kill people too much. He is more worried about the big hit than making a play. Not to mention he is probably going to kill one of his own teammates the way he flies into guys in the process of being tackled.

Posted by: srobert1117 | September 16, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Some of those mcnabb passes that were inches away from our tiny recievers could be snagged by a guy with another 8 inches of hieght

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | September 16, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Statistical Analysis:

Bring home flowers - HJ
Bring home jewelry - BJ
Bring home tickets to Europe - the whole shebang

Posted by: noonefromtampa | September 16, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: srobert1117 | September 16, 2010 8:34 PM |

Totally agree on Landry. I'll give any player his due when making as many tackles as he did Sunday night. The wiff on Romo is a game changer right there. If he plays with more discipline he might make that play.


Posted by: hessone | September 16, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

not that I didn't find what the other guy did interesting

Posted by: noonefromtampa | September 16, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

One of the blog's primo haters, scampbell1975, had referred to Lloyd as "straight garbo". Of course he is also thick headed (dude, A&W called, they want to use you in one of their commercials!), which probably goes hand-in-hand with being a hater.

Posted by: Yammerstein | September 16, 2010 8:15 PM |

Anyone trying to pimp a guy that had one good game in an 8 year career doesn't rate an argument. Lloyd is straight garbo and just cuz you think he's not doesn't make it so. I'm not a Lloyd "hater" I'm a realist. You, on the other hand, are delusional.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 16, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse


Some of those mcnabb passes that were inches away from our tiny recievers could be snagged by a guy with another 8 inches of hieght

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | September 16, 2010 8:44 PM |

But what about the dirt balls? Those are his passes that have me concerned. McNabb is going to face a 2 minute drill at some point this season and that's cause for real concern too.


Posted by: hessone | September 16, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

The link to the video of the enraged Cowboy fan?

Fargin hilargis.


Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 16, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

One of the blog's primo haters, scampbell1975, had referred to Lloyd as "straight garbo". Of course he is also thick headed (dude, A&W called, they want to use you in one of their commercials!), which probably goes hand-in-hand with being a hater.

Posted by: Yammerstein | September 16, 2010 8:15 PM |

Anyone trying to pimp a guy that had one good game in an 8 year career doesn't rate an argument. Lloyd is straight garbo and just cuz you think he's not doesn't make it so. I'm not a Lloyd "hater" I'm a realist. You, on the other hand, are delusional.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 16, 2010 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Classic tirade:

http://broodingburgundy.com/post/1115972890/enraged-dallas-fan

This guy is on point though, kinda reminds me of my frustration the past 2 yrs with Zorn

Posted by: skinswillwin | September 16, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

http://broodingburgundy.com/post/1115972890/enraged-dallas-fan

In case anyone hasn't seen this, it's hilarious. Gotta love an irate Cowboys fan.

Posted by: will_ga | September 16, 2010 8:02 PM

Hysterical

Oh, and sorry for the double post...didn't think it made it through the first time.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 16, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Another funny video on the Cowboy's loss:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcCJcwqKMU4&feature=related

Posted by: Chia_Pet | September 16, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Notorious_LMG

Sorry Eddie, but Bmarsh was traded for 2 2nds....

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | September 16, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Clark. My bad.

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | September 16, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

My bad...didn't see that link was already posted.

Posted by: skinswillwin | September 16, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Hessone....

Ya I was at the game n saw the dirtballs myself......

Wasn't happy with those, I recall 3 clear catches if the pass was a foot or two higher

The truth is the timing in our offense is gonna need to develope......

That's why shanny wants his cornerstones to the offense now....

Mcnabb will be fine. This yr is to gain comfort n right the ship

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | September 16, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

http://broodingburgundy.com/post/1115972890/enraged-dallas-fan

In case anyone hasn't seen this, it's hilarious. Gotta love an irate Cowboys fan.

Posted by: will_ga |

Will thats some funny isht right there.

Posted by: Predator48 | September 16, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

The link to the video of the enraged Cowboy fan?

Fargin hilargis.

Posted by: Chia_Pet

Really? Wow. Even that Roiullher guy is funnier than that, and he turns people into pillars of salt.

Posted by: SMACK1 | September 16, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Pretty interesting read about TW's debut..

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/word-muth/2010/word-muth

Posted by: Diesel44 | September 16, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse


http://broodingburgundy.com/post/1115972890/enraged-dallas-fan

In case anyone hasn't seen this, it's hilarious. Gotta love an irate Cowboys fan.

Posted by: will_ga |

Will thats some funny isht right there.

Posted by: Predator48 | September 16, 2010 9:20 PM

Oh wow. Thanks for that. Classic.

Posted by: HokiesSkins | September 16, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse

I think signing Vincent Jackson would hurt Malcolm Kelly. Everything seems to.

Posted by: mack1 | September 16, 2010 9:49 PM | Report abuse

I'd rather see us develop Anthony Armstrong than spend money, picks and $'s on another locker room plague like Jackson. Playoffs are a long shot to say the least this year. Dear God, let's just be smart for once.

Posted by: bostskin | September 16, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Smack... trust me. That caca is not so much hilarious for the content... its hilarious because the dude is so apoplectically enraged. Its as if this guy is the voice of the entire cowboy nation waking up to the fact that your team is lead by a bunch of half witted tards who think the pokes are good enough to just show up on the field and the scoreboard is automatically going to register a win for them.

I thought the same thing as that guy right before the half "whats this jackass doing ... OMG he stripped it!!!!.... and scooped ...hes gonna go.... no time on the clock..... Bwaaaaaahahahahahahahaaha TD REDSKINS because the pokes are FING STUPID!!!!

Seriously, that's why its funny. Giggling out loud just thinking about it now funny.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | September 16, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

"From Jason Whitlock column earlier today re: Redskins, "It’s a bad team. The Redskins will finish closer to 1-16 than 8-8."

A fat football reporter who has spent the bulk (pun intended) of his career watching the pathetic Kansas City Chiefs has the unmitigated gall to pass a lowdown judgement on the Washington Redskins.

This is like being called dumb by Forrest Gump.

This is like offering Bill Gates money to buy groceries or pay his rent.

This is like some talentless spook deciding not to try to achieve fame via a youtube clip.

This is like a panhandler offering to give you money for crack.

This is like a Florida preacher deciding to burn a bible as he really didn't own a Koran to set on fire in the first place.

This is like Dennis Rodman commenting on your poor taste in women and tatoos.

This is like Lindsey Lohan taking your illegal prescription pills away fearing you might become addicted.

This is like LeBron James lecturing kids about humility and loyalty.

Or a Wall Street executive declining a bonus after causing his firm's stock to tank.

Or Flava Flav explaining that you're too ugly to be seen with him in public.

Or Dave Chappelle deciding, like you just did, that this post just isn't funny or relevant enough to continue reading.

Because it, like Whitlock's columns, isn't.

And never will be.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | September 16, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Diesel44
Here is what you are missing with the jammal brown trade the redskins completed complicated trade with the saints where if the skins miss the playoffs the saints get the skins 3rd rounder and send the skins their 5th and 6th rounder giving the eagles their 4th rounder in MCnabb dealif they do make the playoffs then the saints get 4th rounder giving the skins 6th and 7th rounder sending the eagles 3rd rounder completing the mcnabb trade.so either way the skins are gonna end up with so either way the skins picks for 2011 draft is gonna look lie this either 1,2,5,5,6,7 or 1,2,5,6,6,7,7 on be or the other cannot know until end of the season they also picked up a draft pick from the rams and tehy gave up a pick for the rams

Posted by: rmnkevorkian | September 16, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

The unfunny part is it's so unoriginal.

I hate to un- on your parade. I don't mind that you enjoyed it.

But it's basically a Lady Gaga quality sh!tshow.

You're the one being played. Giggle away.

Posted by: SMACK1 | September 16, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

bostskin

"I'd rather see us develop Anthony Armstrong..."

Amen, reverend, amen.

Too, why not wait out FA, there might be some deal for a lower tier, but quality receiver who can be had?

Posted by: gimmesummoe | September 16, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

"...so either way, the skins' picks for 2011 draft is gonna look like this: either 1,2,5,5,6,7 or 1,2,5,6,6,7,7..."


And if BA can trade AH during the off season for a 3rd/4th rounder, and trade away the first rounder for more mid round picks, we may see the redskins walking away from the draft looking so good that Jason Whitlock will declare us able to go 2-17 in 2011.

And then, 3-18 in 2012.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | September 16, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Pretty interesting read about TW's debut..

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/word-muth/2010/word-muth

Posted by: Diesel44 | September 16, 2010 9:48 PM

Good post regarding line play. Never realized it could be so scientific - just assumed it was merely "unstoppable force vs immovable object."

Posted by: bones21 | September 16, 2010 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: rmnkevorkian | September 16, 2010 10:06 PM |

We also get a conditional pick from the Colts for Tryon. Either way it goes down we will have 2 picks in the first 2 RDs and then 5-6 picks in the 5-7th RDs.

Posted by: Diesel44 | September 16, 2010 10:43 PM | Report abuse


http://broodingburgundy.com/post/1115972890/enraged-dallas-fan

Posted by: will_ga |


That is freaking awesome! I am pretty sure that is pampatex.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | September 16, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Whoever said less is moe?

I keeed, I keeed.

We used to be able to kid.

Posted by: SMACK1 | September 16, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Some of us are still capable of both kidding and being kidded.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | September 16, 2010 11:21 PM | Report abuse

You're the one being played. Giggle away.

Posted by: SMACK1 | September 16, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

That's cool Smack. I am giggling after all, and life is too fing short not to giggle yer azz off when you can.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | September 16, 2010 11:26 PM | Report abuse

If they can get this guy for a 2nd rounder, I think that would be a great trade. We desperately need a receiver to go with Moss and we'll just end up drafting or signing someone next year anyway. Give McNabb some weapons. This could really help out.

Posted by: corky1031 | September 16, 2010 11:35 PM | Report abuse

hehehe ok gtta run thnx bye!

Posted by: SMACK1 | September 16, 2010 11:49 PM | Report abuse

and now back to sherriff gonna getchya a doughnut

when we last left our heroes sherriff just walked off leaving chief alone at camp:
Chiefr: sherriff said all cowboys are Texans but not all Texans are cowboys? sherriff must've hit his head.

suddenly chief is approached by a stranger
(cameo appearance by Chris Cooley)
Cheif: hey sranger my name is Chief watchy from sideline who are you? and why do you hold your buttocks like so?
CC: they call me runs after catch and I am tight end but Big Chief say i now wide receiver. we are conducting wargames here chief watch from sideline would you like to join in
Chief: can I watch from the sidelines?
to be continued

Posted by: nflorida1 | September 16, 2010 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Anyone notice that both Albert_Haynesworth and hessone didn't post to day.

Bet the farm they're the same guy. What a doofus.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 17, 2010 12:06 AM | Report abuse

Pretty interesting read about TW's debut..
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/word-muth/2010/word-muth
Posted by: Diesel44 | September 16, 2010 9:48 PM"

Thanks, I learned something from that. Particularly the part about Dallas leaving Barron on an island on that last play -- no reason for it, especially coming off a time out, but that was their choice. Cost them a game.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 17, 2010 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Shanny n bruce have shown that they get there man...

If they like jackson, which we all kno that shanny does he will be a redskin

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | September 17, 2010 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Pretty interesting read about TW's debut..
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/word-muth/2010/word-muth
Posted by: Diesel44 | September 16, 2010 9:48 PM"

Great pull D.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 17, 2010 12:48 AM | Report abuse

Thanks, I learned something from that. Particularly the part about Dallas leaving Barron on an island on that last play -- no reason for it, especially coming off a time out, but that was their choice. Cost them a game.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 17, 2010 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Bob's Big Boy takes the hit, but Garrett's buffoonery on the last play of both halves... inexcusable.

And lets face it, we KNOW coaching buffoonery when we see it.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | September 17, 2010 1:42 AM | Report abuse

I have a feeling that VJ won't be coming to Washington. That nut of a GM in San Diego wants way too much. I am wondering what plan "B" will be. I know we've only seen one game, but it already looks like Moss, Cooley and a drop off to a cast of characters who cannot get it done. I hope they stay with Armstrong a little longer because the guy is a fighter and I am hopeful he will get it together. Meanwhile, I would pull the plug on Galloway in a New York minute. Terrence Austin or Brandon Banks could use the reps...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 17, 2010 5:02 AM | Report abuse

I'd rather see us develop Anthony Armstrong than spend money, picks and $'s on another locker room plague like Jackson. Playoffs are a long shot to say the least this year. Dear God, let's just be smart for once.

Posted by: bostskin | September 16, 2010 9:51 PM


Locker room plague? Really? Dude is in a contract dispute. I've never heard a single report that supports the notion that he's anything other than a good teammate and tremendous talent.

As much as I'd like to see VJ in burgundy and gold, I recognize there are several quality reasons to pass on him as well. Touch on some of those...don't simply make sh*t up.

As for "develop Anthony Armstrong"...let's not make this guy out to be a long term solution at WR. Just because he's an undrafted rookie doesn't automatically make him young...dude is 27. By the time he's "developed", he'll be damn near 30--the age where you start looking to replace him. Fact of the matter is, Armstrong is a potential starter here not because of his game but because of our lack of viable options at the position. It's damning...not encouraging. If he's a starter or key contributor next season, we're in BIG trouble...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 17, 2010 5:09 AM | Report abuse

http://broodingburgundy.com/post/1115972890/enraged-dallas-fan

Posted by: will_ga |


Typical Dall-ass fan...dude blamed the owner and the FO for playcalling. Simply stunning. Just goes to show you just can't fix stupid...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 17, 2010 5:15 AM | Report abuse

Sure hope Moss can suit up for every game.

Posted by: joe_king | September 17, 2010 5:31 AM | Report abuse

Typical Dall-ass fan...dude blamed the owner and the FO for playcalling.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 17, 2010 5:15 AM

There you go again, overrating the Dallas fans. A typical fan would have found no fault with the owner or the FO, believing them perfect. Everything that went wrong would have been the fault of the referees. That's what one of our trolls said up here after the game -- "The ref took it upon himself to decide the outcome of the game."

Posted by: beep-beep | September 17, 2010 5:40 AM | Report abuse

As for "develop Anthony Armstrong"...let's not make this guy out to be a long term solution at WR. Just because he's an undrafted rookie doesn't automatically make him young...dude is 27. By the time he's "developed", he'll be damn near 30--the age where you start looking to replace him. Fact of the matter is, Armstrong is a potential starter here not because of his game but because of our lack of viable options at the position. It's damning...not encouraging. If he's a starter or key contributor next season, we're in BIG trouble...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 17, 2010 5:09 AM
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I'm a little more hopeful about Armstrong than you are. The guy is fast, he does okay on special teams and he is learning. He's 27, but he could anchor a position for six years if he gets it together. I am not saying this is going to happen, but I am hopeful.

Meanwhile, we have an ancient receiver eating up roster space without contributing. I would rather have a guy who is still not at the top of his game than a guy who peaked five years ago. I just don't understand Galloway being on the roster. What did they see in him that made them think he was going to be a contributor?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 17, 2010 5:43 AM | Report abuse

Typical Dall-ass fan...dude blamed the owner and the FO for playcalling. Simply stunning. Just goes to show you just can't fix stupid...

Posted by: brownwood26

Yes, dallas fans are pretty stupid typically. Atlanta, Oakland, Tennessee, Saints, and Carolina fans are also often fairly dumb in my experience. Washington and Seattle fans tend to be a cut above the others in average education at least.
How do I know this is true? I don't really. I guess the dumbest jocks I knew all thought the "dumb teams" above were cool.

Posted by: monkeymayonaise | September 17, 2010 5:50 AM | Report abuse

What did they see in him that made them think he was going to be a contributor?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 17, 2010 5:43 AM


I'm thinking that it was the two passes that Armstrong dropped in the end zone. Galloway would have made those into two TDs. We would have won 27-7.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 17, 2010 5:52 AM | Report abuse

RSH, I get what you're saying but bottom line is neither Armstrong or Galloway would be on this roster if we had better options. I'd be higher on Armstrong if he could have made that play in the end zone. NFL starters make that catch and he flat didn't. Hope I'm wrong, but I just don't see a guy who literally came outta nowhere suddenly becoming the answer to the WR problem. I mean, the Kurt Warner/Rod Smith thing only happens once a generation at best...

MM, I think most fanbases have their fair share of idiots, but none more than Dallas and Philly fans. I swear those clowns have NO idea what they're talking about on ANY topic. Easily the most arrogant fans are Steeler fans--most of them refuse to acknowledge the fact that football exists outside of Pittsburgh...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 17, 2010 6:00 AM | Report abuse

I'm thinking that it was the two passes that Armstrong dropped in the end zone. Galloway would have made those into two TDs. We would have won 27-7.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 17, 2010 5:52 AM


Weren't those drops on consecutive plays? If he catches the first one, there's no second attempt. Thus only one added TD and a 20-7 win...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 17, 2010 6:04 AM | Report abuse

Weren't those drops on consecutive plays? If he catches the first one, there's no second attempt. Thus only one added TD and a 20-7 win...

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 17, 2010 6:04 AM

Really? They wouldn't have given us both TD's? That's not right. The refs really were against us.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 17, 2010 6:10 AM | Report abuse


But what about the dirt balls? Those are his passes that have me concerned. McNabb is going to face a 2 minute drill at some point this season and that's cause for real concern too.

Posted by: hessone | September 16, 2010 8:50 PM |

Anyone notice that both Albert_Haynesworth and hessone didn't post to day.

Bet the farm they're the same guy. What a doofus.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 17, 2010 12:06 AM |

Anyone notice that I posted 3 hrs 16 mins before poopy ? Get your facts straight before posting you moron.


Posted by: hessone | September 17, 2010 7:53 AM | Report abuse

DM5 worked VJ out and knows what VJ brings He also knows what he has to throw to now. This is not a hard decision.

Posted by: joe_king | September 17, 2010 8:15 AM | Report abuse

The Skins are built to "win now" with Veteran Pro Bowl Caliber QB and veteran RB's and an "average O line". The tight end position is built to win now.

The defense is certainly built to "win now". We will waste the defense (Again) and the other complimentary offensive players if we don't make a move for Vincent Jackson and/or Plaxico Burress when he is released from Prison.

Give McNabb and Kyle the weapons they need to take us to the play-offs. After years of overspending and creating cap problems to get below average players, the Skins finally have a chance in an uncapped year to get a good youngish player on the outside, a true number 1 WR, a red zone threat, they have to pull out the stops to get him. I would be happy trading Haynesworth to TN to get a 3rd to package with a second of our own to send to San Diego for Jackson.

The Raven's got Bolden and Housh, the Jets got Santonio Holmes, Boyz draft Bryant, Giants have Nicks, Eagles have Maclin and DeSean Jackson; the Skins must upgrade!

Posted by: DownTownClown | September 17, 2010 9:58 AM | Report abuse

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