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Posted at 11:04 AM ET, 01/21/2011

Vinny Cerrato gets to the playoffs -- on the radio

By Jason Reid

Onetime top Redskins official Vinny Cerrato appears focused on a new career in sports-talk radio.

For the past season, Cerrato, Washington's former executive vice president of football operations, has worked as an NFL analyst for 1050 ESPN New York. And Cerrato has become an integral part of the station's coverage of the league, according to his supervisor.

"He's been with us all season, and he's co-hosted various programs as a special NFL inside analyst around all of the big games this season," said David Roberts, the station's vice president and general manager. "He's gonna be on Saturday afternoon previewing the game, the [New York] Jets game, for the AFC Championship. Actually, he'll preview both [the AFC and NFC championship games]."

As loyal Redskins Insider readers surely remember, Cerrato hosted a short-lived radio show on ESPN 980, which also is owned by Redskins owner Daniel M. Snyder. I was a guest on the show a few times and listened whenever it aired, and Cerrato, in my opinion, seemed happiest when he spoke about any subject other than the Redskins.

Cerrato has emerged as an effective analyst in his current role because "he does not hold back," Roberts said. "He's not worried [that] what he says might prevent him from getting another executive role with a team in the NFL."

Cerrato clearly enjoys his job, Roberts said.

"This is something that he has really applied himself to," he said. "He comes prepared, he plans, he researches, he maximizes all of the contacts he has acquired over the course of his career.

"And once he's on the air, he does a real excellent job, just an excellent job, putting a game, and various aspects of a game, into perspective. It's a win-win for the station. It's a win-win for the fans, who any time he's on the air, will learn something unique that they won't get anywhere else." ...

Former Redskins official Zack Bolno has opened a public relations firm.

Bolno, Jack Heilig and Jeffrey Kamis recently partnered to form Trifecta Team, described in their news release as "a full-service public relations, marketing and event management company." They have offices in Ft. Lauderdale, Fla., Tampa and in the District.

According to their release, Bolno, Heilig and Kamis have worked with a number of professional sports teams, leading the public relations operations for a pair of Super Bowl and NCAA football championship teams. Overall, TrifectaTeam has directed the publicity and marketing efforts for more than 50 Pro Bowl and All-Star players.

On a personal note, Bolno is among the hardest-working people I have encountered during 16 years covering major college and professional sports. And he handled the chaos of the Redskins' 2008 season as well as anyone in his position could.

By Jason Reid  | January 21, 2011; 11:04 AM ET
 
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Comments

If nothing else, VC has a face for radio.

Posted by: kerzon417 | January 21, 2011 11:11 AM | Report abuse

If nothing else, VC has a face for radio.

Posted by: kerzon417 | January 21, 2011 11:11 AM
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I think he has the GM skills of a radio announcer as well.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 21, 2011 11:14 AM | Report abuse

...Cerrato, in my opinion, seemed happiest when he spoke about any subject other than the Redskins.

By Jason Reid | January 21, 2011; 11:04 AM ET

Most people prefer to speak on topics they know something about. Vinny never had a clue when it came to the Skins.

Posted by: Alan4 | January 21, 2011 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Awesome post. I'm hoping we can get some Spurrier recruiting news with the next one.

In next YRs draft he may have 3 Top 10 picks (WR Jeffries, CB Gilmore, & DE Taylor).

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 21, 2011 11:20 AM | Report abuse

For a laugh, check out this article Kim Clijsters and the 25 Biggest Bellies in Sports


Fat Al made the list... but I must warn you in advance, the picture for #19, Andre Smith running with his shirt off, ain't pretty! #16 is just hilarious.

Posted by: Alan4 | January 21, 2011 10:02 AM


That was pretty funny...although, I gotta say that Shaun Rogers was not only ranked too low, but that pic they posted of him just HAD to be doctored up...NOBODY is that fat and can actually get out of bed in the morning, let alone play in the NFL...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2011 10:42 AM
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You haven't seen Anthony Bryant? That dude is the original "Fat Bastard".

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 21, 2011 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Alan,

I am very happy to see you finally coming around. Only six more days to go and the Tribunal will make their binding decision.We are pleased with your progress.

Sincerely,

Optimism Bus 2011.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 21, 2011 11:21 AM | Report abuse

A F'ing Cerrato post.

He's like that crazy ex-girlfriend that always pops up when you least expect it.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 21, 2011 11:25 AM | Report abuse

I really need to find the online link to this station...this is exciting news!

Posted by: PlayAction | January 21, 2011 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Alan,

I am very happy to see you finally coming around. Only six more days to go and the Tribunal will make their binding decision.We are pleased with your progress.

Sincerely,

Optimism Bus 2011.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 21, 2011 11:21 AM

I've had a great coach... it's been a tough, especially at the beginning, but according to the coach I've really been fighting my guts out!

Posted by: Alan4 | January 21, 2011 11:29 AM | Report abuse

And you felt the need to respond to actual quantitative stats about a player and used the tired bang wife/mother/sister act.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 21, 2011 10:51 AM


What quantitative stats? Some half-assed website gives you some contrived numbers to support your hypothesis and that's the gospel truth now? The numbers I gave you are 100% REAL, tangible plays that won the Redskins two games: 6 INTs, 2 TDs. That's undeniable, genuine production...regardless of whether he locks down one side of the field like an elite CB or not.

Plus, I'd like to see you post something to refute that he didn't deserve the two Pro Bowls he made before playing here. It's one thing if he "lucks" his way in this year, but since he's made it MULTIPLE times that tells me he's not the scrub you make him out to be.

Look, you obviously hate the guy and that's your prerogative...all I'm sayin' is A) you don't need to jump on everyone who doesn't hate him or thinks he can play and B) if you're not going to take the position that Favre shouldn't be in the HoF because he's got the most INTs of any QB ever, then be consistent and admit that DHall deserves a Pro Bowl despite giving up as many big plays as he makes. It's a two way street, dude...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2011 11:30 AM | Report abuse

"And once he's on the air, he does a real excellent job, just an excellent job, putting a game, and various aspects of a game, into perspective. It's a win-win for the station. It's a win-win for the fans, who any time he's on the air, will learn something unique that they won't get anywhere else."


That's a knee slapper.

iH8cerrato

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 21, 2011 11:30 AM | Report abuse

And you felt the need to respond to actual quantitative stats about a player and used the tired bang wife/mother/sister act.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 21, 2011 10:51 AM

When did the wife/sister/mom thing get tired?

That's the go-to move when you got nothing else.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 21, 2011 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Alan,

I am very happy to see you finally coming around. Only six more days to go and the Tribunal will make their binding decision.We are pleased with your progress.

Sincerely,

Optimism Bus 2011.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 21, 2011 11:21 AM

I've had a great coach... it's been a tough, especially at the beginning, but according to the coach I've really been fighting my guts out!

Posted by: Alan4 | January 21, 2011 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Keep up the fight Alan!

Remember it's a marathon, not a sprint.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 21, 2011 11:35 AM | Report abuse

"He's not worried [that] what he says might prevent him from getting another executive role with a team in the NFL."


Nor should he be...if he thinks there's ANYTHING he can say that would keep him out of the NFL more than his actual track record in NFL would, then he's as delusional as the "trade Cooley" crowd...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2011 11:36 AM | Report abuse

"He's not worried [that] what he says might prevent him from getting another executive role with a team in the NFL."


Nor should he be...if he thinks there's ANYTHING he can say that would keep him out of the NFL more than his actual track record in NFL would, then he's as delusional as the "trade Cooley" crowd...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2011 11:36 AM | Report abuse

And OJ is not worried that anything he says might prevent him from marrying another white lady.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 21, 2011 11:40 AM | Report abuse

How do you confuse a Duke Lacrosse player?
Get a woman to tell him NO!

Posted by: monk811 | January 21, 2011 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Okay, Mr. Friggin Perfect, a 2nd or 4th, like he got Portis and Co....

Posted by: frak

I like it, thanks frak. Damn that PlayAction for beating me to it. I guess that's what I can expect from sharing the same brain!

Posted by: monk811 | January 21, 2011 11:41 AM | Report abuse

I'm not listening to this.

Posted by: monk811 | January 21, 2011 11:44 AM | Report abuse

You haven't seen Anthony Bryant? That dude is the original "Fat Bastard".

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 21, 2011 11:20 AM

At 6'3" and 376 lbs, he definitely should have been on the list. Clearly that list wasn't exhaustive, or even in appropriate rank order.

But that side-shot photo of Shaun Rogers takes the cake! He looks like he swallowed a Panda Bear. If that photo's not doctored like brownwood suggested, dude's official weight (350 lbs) has gotta be a roundoff error, perhaps the scale just doesn't go any higher.

Posted by: Alan4 | January 21, 2011 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Emo
I get ur point that we won't to stop the slaughtering our defense has recevied
You keep missing my point.
With a great d what do you hope to keep your opponent under???
Cuz they better be baltimore ravens sick if you wanna stick with what we got on offense
I would like to have a great line, not because I think that wins games but because what it opens up everywhere else.
I wonder if our 3 4 defense would be alittle more effective if our offense could sustain a drive n keep the d off the field.
Imagine that.... our offense stays on the field longer, increasing our chances of scoring, n that also keeps the d off the field fresh, instead of getitng burnt out by being on the field all game
Ya we need to stop people from scoring but what if we can't score ourselves????
Holding someone to 10 points is awesome, but you still don't win if you only score 7.
Holding them to 6 doesn't get you the W if we score 3.
You see what I'm sayin?? Yes a great d would be aweomse, but a great d n pathetic offense don't instantly get u ur championship.
Ya the pats/ravs/ falcs all lost, but they lost to complete teams, not just outstanding defenses.
Jets n packers both have great defenses and great offenses
Jets are top 5 in offense and in defense, there defense gets many stops but there wins still come down to sanchez marching them downfield.
Again you have a great point about us needing help at all the positions you mentioned plus a host of needs on offense.
Either way neither of us are gonna get the exact guys we want in our dream scenario I just think its semi-asinine to think that completely rebuilding our d will fix our problems.
Would you rather have a defense that gets you the ball back n then you go 3 n out because of our crappy offense n then give the ball back to the other team??
To me that defeats the purpose of a good d, what's the point if we can't move the ball?? Field position??
With a good D n horrible O, we can get the ball back just to punt it back to em?? Me ill take offense. High scoring games. Let's try to hang 24 plus points on people n then see how our d improves. If we can score 24 n our crappy d can hold someone to 21, that's a win.

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 21, 2011 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Dagnabbit...all the good joke sites blocked at work...wtf!

How many Duke students does it take to change a light bulb?

Three - one to change the bulb, and two to crack under the pressure.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 21, 2011 11:49 AM | Report abuse

How many Duke students does it take to change a tire?

Three -- two to go get beer and one to call dad back in Jersey.

Posted by: monk811 | January 21, 2011 11:50 AM | Report abuse

beep-beep swooping in chastise all the Duke jokers in 3...2...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2011 11:54 AM | Report abuse

I'm not listening to this.

Posted by: monk811 | January 21, 2011 11:44 AM

Well I guess I can't listen to this either.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 21, 2011 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Heh, Cerrrat-O!! The Torture Never Stops, it just transforms into something else..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO4PlvIE6bk

Posted by: frak | January 21, 2011 11:58 AM | Report abuse

What is the only sign of intelligent life in Chapel Hill?

Duke University: 12 miles ahead.

Posted by: monk811 | January 21, 2011 12:01 PM | Report abuse

brandon_in_cali,
I agree with you... to a point. Those sick defenses actually help you score by giving you good field position... and actually scoring!

I'll never forget the Steelers-Vikings game last year. Brett Favre was putting together an MVP-quality season and Adrian Peterson was Adrian Peterson.

Everyone was all about Big Ben vs Favre. So what happens?

Favre goes over 300 yards on 50 passes and Peterson gets 69 yards on 18 carries... BUT...

the Steelers DEFENSE got in the end zone as much as the Vikes offense (TDs on an INT and a fumble).

Big Ben had only 175 yards in the air. The Vikes outgained the Steerlers 386-259 yards, but couldn't outscore the Steelers defense and took their first loss of the season to go to 6-1.

Posted by: Alan4 | January 21, 2011 12:05 PM | Report abuse

For the love of god!

Alot of us don't care about Cerrato,who played a major part in the downturn of the Redskin francise!

Cerrato--go away--You have little credibility when it come to football!

Posted by: beaujoh1 | January 21, 2011 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Cerrato--go away--You have little credibility when it come to football!

Posted by: beaujoh1 | January 21, 2011 12:09 PM


It's hard to be worse than Matt Millen (who presided over the league's only 0-16 team), yet he's got THREE analyst gigs. If Vinny is good at radio, I've got no qualms about him doing radio.

Just don't ask me to listen to him...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2011 12:13 PM | Report abuse

And you felt the need to respond to actual quantitative stats about a player and used the tired bang wife/mother/sister act.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 21, 2011 10:51 AM


What quantitative stats? Some half-assed website gives you some contrived numbers to support your hypothesis and that's the gospel truth now? The numbers I gave you are 100% REAL, tangible plays that won the Redskins two games: 6 INTs, 2 TDs. That's undeniable, genuine production...regardless of whether he locks down one side of the field like an elite CB or not.

Plus, I'd like to see you post something to refute that he didn't deserve the two Pro Bowls he made before playing here. It's one thing if he "lucks" his way in this year, but since he's made it MULTIPLE times that tells me he's not the scrub you make him out to be.

Look, you obviously hate the guy and that's your prerogative...all I'm sayin' is A) you don't need to jump on everyone who doesn't hate him or thinks he can play and B) if you're not going to take the position that Favre shouldn't be in the HoF because he's got the most INTs of any QB ever, then be consistent and admit that DHall deserves a Pro Bowl despite giving up as many big plays as he makes. It's a two way street, dude...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2011 11:30 AM

DHall's selection to the ProBowl is a joke. The probowl is a popularity contest and DHall won on one game.

Anyone who really watched the other 15 Skins games knows he hurt the team more than helped. His missed tackles and coverage gambles for INTs not only lost games but show a selfish player only interested in personal stats.
Your fandom of him must be a delusional worship of the logo'd laundry he wears.

Posted by: onanygivensunday | January 21, 2011 12:13 PM | Report abuse

I would like to have a great line,....

Let's remember some things about the 'weak' redskin offensive line:

Williams, Litchenstieger, Montgomery are 3 of the 5 starters on that line.

And this year, each player became a 1st time starter in the NFL.

And most 1st time NFL starters are weak; however, the offseason usually is where such players refine their game and improve.

Derrick Dockery, for example, went throught this.

Count on two of those three guys getting pretty good or replaced by a higher grade FA.

In other words, folks are arguing that a line that essentially featured 3 1st time starters should be augmented with rookies?

How does that work?

You want to complain that young developing players are weak and should be replaced by other young players who have to develop?: fine with me.

I'm of a mind that the redskin line needs a settled right tackle situation and center: two issues that can be resolved in FA.

Beyond that, you know like I do, Shanny is listening to Kyle and will add a quarterback.

After that, Shanny should listen to Haslett: he's the one who needs to be heard.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2011 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Alan

There have been 1024 regular season games played the last 2 regular seasons....

You pointed out one game in 1000

Sure the odds are better than winning the mega millions lottery but still not very common for that to happen

Plus ur using arguably the top defense over the last decade

Winning with a defensive score is the exception to the rule, not the standard for it

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 21, 2011 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Alan

There have been 1024 regular season games played the last 2 regular seasons....

You pointed out one game in 1000

Sure the odds are better than winning the mega millions lottery but still not very common for that to happen

Plus ur using arguably the top defense over the last decade

Winning with a defensive score is the exception to the rule, not the standard for it

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 21, 2011 12:21 PM | Report abuse

It's pick your scab day apparently.

Cerrato and I just tuned into Sheehan's and Loverro's EPSN980 noon show and the very first words out of their mouths is Haynesworth. Are you kidding me. Big games this weekend, god knows baseball around the corner, Caps get a win .. and those lumps talk about a total loser. If you feel the need to regurgitate Redskins, how about a bit on players who matter. Why reward Albert. Sheehan and Loverro must take pictures of Big Al into the bathroom with them is all I can figure at this point.

Quickly over to the Fan and they had a fun show going. At least they knew a better mark in the Steelers. Fun show and it's about folks who succeed .. not Haynesworth.

Get over it Sheehan and Loverro.

Posted by: tslats | January 21, 2011 12:22 PM | Report abuse

A couple of weeks back when someone on the thread was revisiting Cerrato's GM blunders I mentioned his 1050 AM gig here in New York, with the addendum that I could not believe anyone would pay him a salary for his opinions on football.

I guess Jason Reid really does read the posts on here. I can't think of any other reason he would have chosen to research and write this worthless entry about Cerrato's goofy gig here in the Apple.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | January 21, 2011 12:24 PM | Report abuse

How many Duke University freshman does it take to change a light bulb?

None, it's a sophomore course

Posted by: monk811 | January 21, 2011 12:25 PM | Report abuse

bw26- they say love is blind and I don't jump at the opportunity to post the closest things we have to facts with regards to a CBs play when his name comes up. However there are more than a few that feel the need to post...6 INTs, 2 FRs, 2TDs and haven't a clue as to what a complete football player looks like. God forbid we give the otherside of the equation.

Half ass site? Him getting torched for almost 1000, how else did he get such a high tackle total? It certainly wasn't in run support.

Refute 3 pro bowls? Roy Williams has been to 5+.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 21, 2011 12:28 PM | Report abuse

@MrRedskin21 I don't know who you are but you seem to have a major problem with blacks. All your posts ever do is make personal attacks against Reid, Arrington and Jason Campbell. If you have any valid reason to think that any of them is lacking intelligence, please present it, otherwise shut your racist mouth and go away. This is a Redskins blog, the Redskins are done for the year, and it's playoff time, so playoff-related stories involving ex-Skins are about as interesting as anything else.

Posted by: jksesq1 | January 21, 2011 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Moe

The reason our line sucks is not because these guys are first time starters, its because they shouldn't have been starters period.

Rabach?? Idk how u see him as a 1st time starter, he spends more time on his back than a turtle who can't turn over. He needs to go bad.

Lichtenstieger??? He was cut by two different teams before we picked him up of the street. I hope he's not one of the two you say could be really good is he?? The only thing making him a starter is the fact that we got no one else. He needs to go, bad.

Hicks!!! You got him anointed as a good player?? Have u forgetten he was brought in the be a backup behind a FAT GUY in a ZONE scheme?? Please tell me ur not placing all your eggs in thatbasket???

RT n LT to me seems to be the only spot we do have taken care of which actual guys who could start on a different team. I don't know any team that would start any of those 3 guys listed. Maybe as back ups or if there starter goes to IR but that's a big maybe. To me if there not good enough to start on another team why the hell should they get to start on ours??? The reason..... WE HAVE NOBODY!!! OUR OLINE IS THE WORST IN THE LEAGUE!!

WE NEED 3 INTERIOR O LINEMAN

I DON'T CARE IF THEY WILL BE ROOKIES, LOOK AT POUNCEYS BRO, SOLID ROOKIE YR

TO ME WETHER THERE A ROOKIE OR A TEN YEAR VET DOESN'T MATTER IF THEY CAN BALL

WE HAVE WAY TOO MANY GUYS THAT CAN'T BALL N THAT'S WHY WE GET BALLED UP

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 21, 2011 12:30 PM | Report abuse

This one's for you beep-beep!


What is the usual greeting from a Duke fan?

Welcome to McDonald's, may I take your order?


LMFAO, you just can't make this stuff up. I found this on a website, which proves you really ARE the fry guy!!!

Posted by: monk811 | January 21, 2011 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: jksesq1 | January 21, 2011 12:30 PM |

You're either Reid or you're pulling my leg.

A) I am a huge Lavar Arrington fan, so you won't find any posts by me bashing him. As for the other two, Reid is a lazy scribe and JC is now a Raydah.

That is all.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | January 21, 2011 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Daddy's money buys
an education at Duke.
Next stop: McDonald's!


A Haiku with a Duke joke, that should be double points!!!

Posted by: monk811 | January 21, 2011 12:41 PM | Report abuse

And I quote:

"He comes prepared, he plans, he researches.... "

Why couldn't he do all that when was running the team with his BFF?

Posted by: stwasm | January 21, 2011 12:45 PM | Report abuse

DHall's selection to the ProBowl is a joke. The probowl is a popularity contest and DHall won on one game.

Anyone who really watched the other 15 Skins games knows he hurt the team more than helped. His missed tackles and coverage gambles for INTs not only lost games but show a selfish player only interested in personal stats.
Your fandom of him must be a delusional worship of the logo'd laundry he wears.

Posted by: onanygivensunday | January 21, 2011 12:13 PM


You know what else is a joke? Logan Mankins making the Pro Bowl even though he only played about 6 games. I don't hear you ranting off on that...

The Pro Bowl in and of itself is a joke. That's why it's incredible to me that SKINS FANS can be so up in arms that one of their own is making this game despite the statistical backing to warrant that selection. Goofy stats like "yards against" (as if you could accurately track sh*t like that anyway) aren't taken into account...INTs and TDs are. DHall's numbers are exceptional this year if you're using those two categories.

The funny thing here is that I'm not even that big a DHall fan...I'm just coming off like one because I'm applying some common sense to a very cut and dry topic. Nobody's saying DHall is elite or that he's a shutdown CB or that he's even a top 10 or top 20 player. Just that he's a solid starter that had a nice enough statistical year to go to the Pro Bowl. That's it. Nothing more. Anytime anyone says anything remotely positive about the guy you and Diesel go apesh*t like we're propping up a Dallas guy or something. It absolutely baffles me that someone who professes themselves a Redskins fan could have so much venom for a guy WHO PLAYS FOR THEIR TEAM. It's not like this dude is AH...this a guy who grew up in VA a Skins fan, went to Va Tech, and is happier than a pig in mud to wear the burgundy and gold. I hate how he bumps his gums as much as the next guy (I mean, if the next guy isn't you or Diesel) but to say that he doesn't deserve the Pro Bowl or to gloss over 6 picks and 2 TDs like it's nothing is insane.

But whateves, dude...hold whatever grudge, just don't expect me to hate one of my own for making the Pro Bowl. They could put Rabach in there for all I care...the more burgundy I see there, the better...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2011 12:48 PM | Report abuse

brandon_in_cali,

It is the exception, but the odds are not as long as your jokes suggest. DHall did it for us in week 1, and we don't have the Steelers defense or even a top 20 defense. Hall also scored against the Bears, contributing mightily to that win although the D didn't actually match their scoring in that game.

Obviously, it's best to have a complete team and not have to choose between your defense and your offense. I don't know if you remember the Air Coryell teams in San Diego: fun to watch, scored a lot, but never won anything. Apparently (a little before my time so I can't completely confirm it), the Skins were that way with Sonny J.

If I had to choose, for playoff purposes, I'd take a Steelers #2 ranked D over the Eagles #2 ranked O. But clearly one side of the ball can help or hurt the other.

(Oddly San Diego had the #1 ranked D and #1 ranked O ans STILL can't win anything. That's a puzzle!)

Posted by: Alan4 | January 21, 2011 12:48 PM | Report abuse

brandon

TO ME WETHER THERE A ROOKIE OR A TEN YEAR VET DOESN'T MATTER IF THEY CAN BALL

This is a very debatable point.

This past weekend, Julius Peppers used Russell Okung like he was toilet paper.

The way a lot of redskin fans are, they'd say a developing player isn't that good.

I say he will grow into his game.

Terrell Suggs made M Pouncey of the steelers look foolish multiple time on various lines stunts the other day.

And again, some redskin fans would say that Pouncey needs to be pulled.

I say the defenders in the NFL are too good to be stopped on every play.

And Okung and Pouncey are two of the better young o-linemen in the league.

Yes--Litchenstieger/Montgomery aren't in their class.

But when those guys--including S Heyer as a throw in guard--played against the jags, vikings, bucs, cowboys, titans, giants, they kinda held their own.

We had 100 yard rushing games and 300 yard passing efforts that included touchdowns.

Our defense, though, gave up points and yards and faced long drives.

In Montgomery/Litchenstieger, I see two young guys who have to improve their game, not scrubs (how is any NFL starter a scrub? btw).

One will be replaced by a FA vet, the other will get real good.

But I'm a patience fan who thinks the offseason will do all our young linemen well.

We have other picks than #10, and a number 2 or 5 can still yield a good lineman.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2011 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Refute 3 pro bowls? Roy Williams has been to 5+.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 21, 2011 12:28 PM


Right...because Williams actually put up some numbers in Detroit. Look it up.

Nobody would classify either guy as an elite player, and I doubt either guy scares anybody...but they're good enough to be productive starters and once in awhile they'll put up a season that statistically warrants a Pro Bowl berth.

You're under the assumption that I think DHall is an elite player or something great...I don't. I just don't buy the notion that he's a liability or a scrub. That's crap.

And I certainly don't hate that he's repping my favorite team in the Pro Bowl at a time where nobody else is. I can't get with that logic AT ALL...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2011 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Alan

My point is simply with the game on the line you need a team that can drive the field n put up points

Having a defense that can shut down teams is worthless if our offense can't put up points also.

If we hold to a team to 7 points but we can't score then its worthless

Let's try to score n keep up with the points begin scored against us

Then once we have an offense were scoring isn't an endangered species then let's try to stop people.

Just being able to stop them does us no good if we can't get going ourselves

Points are the only thing that determines winners from losers.

Id rather win 24 to 21 than lose 14 to 7

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 21, 2011 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Alan

My point is simply with the game on the line you need a team that can drive the field n put up points

Having a defense that can shut down teams is worthless if our offense can't put up points also.

If we hold to a team to 7 points but we can't score then its worthless

Let's try to score n keep up with the points begin scored against us

Then once we have an offense were scoring isn't an endangered species then let's try to stop people.

Just being able to stop them does us no good if we can't get going ourselves

Points are the only thing that determines winners from losers.

Id rather win 24 to 21 than lose 14 to 7

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 21, 2011 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Having a defense that can shut down teams is worthless if our offense can't put up points also.

The pats led the league in scoring and were shut down by the jets.

So how did a high scoring O help them?

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2011 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Moe

I agree that one will be good, I see them good in a different role

As our backups!!!

There's a reason guys come in this league n start n there's a reason that guys come in the league n only see the field after someone else goes down

Trust I kno that's the NFL n Brady got discovered after an injury

Ill take a learning curve with a young rookie over a vets learning curve anyday

Peppers n suggs are definetly among the elite pass rushers so its expected they beat a lineman a couple times a game, my thing is now imagine we had to broke one of those two with oh I don't know... Heyer???

Id bet my life that he doesn't fare nearly as well as pouncey or okung

Heyers been a starter?? They've waited years for him to develop n he did, right into the bench where he belongs!

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 21, 2011 1:05 PM | Report abuse

People who blog or chat in all CAPS are d-bags...

Posted by: mhartz1 | January 21, 2011 1:07 PM | Report abuse

@MrRedskin21 I don't know who you are but you seem to have a major problem with blacks. All your posts ever do is make personal attacks against Reid, Arrington and Jason Campbell. If you have any valid reason to think that any of them is lacking intelligence, please present it, otherwise shut your racist mouth and go away. This is a Redskins blog, the Redskins are done for the year, and it's playoff time, so playoff-related stories involving ex-Skins are about as interesting as anything else.

Posted by: jksesq1 | January 21, 2011 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Playing the racist card? That's a little over the top, jksesq1. Reid can certainly be questioned about what he posts up here, and that included questionable articles about JC and VC. MrRedskin21 did put down VC in his 12:24 blurb. And Lavar was in a previous video.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 21, 2011 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Vinny Cerrato gets to the playoffs -- on the radio

radio announcer: So Vinny, you now get to see what a playoff roster looks like.

Vinny: Fine.

Thing is, the harder I look at the radio, they better they look.

Next time, I'll come to the game.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2011 1:10 PM | Report abuse

PEOPLE WHO READ PEOPLES POST BUT GOT NO BALLS TO REPLY ANYTHING ARE D BAGS EXCEPT MHARTZ1 HE'S THE COOLEST BLOGGER NO ONES MET!!!

SHUT UP BATCH!

OH SORRY WAS THAT IN CAPS???!!! OMG CALL BLOG COPS

HARTZ WHAT'S THE NUMBER?? GAY11???

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 21, 2011 1:12 PM | Report abuse

bw26- Orakpo is in the pro bowl...Good for both of them. I don't watch the pro bowl but it's a measurement most jackwagons use to define a player (as you are doing). DHall is the equivalent of a baseball player that hits 30 HRs but strikes out too much, bats .210, has a weak arm, and uses a frying pan instead of a glove in the field. Casual observers like yourself will tout the 30 HRs and ignore the rest. It's why he was a top 8 pick, only 26 YRs old but is on his 3rd team.

It's as easy to track a CB's yards against as it is to track a receiver's YDs gained.

RW was a top 5 pick and had a star on his helmet. That's why he went to 5+ pro bowls. He was a target for QBs and OCs since he entered the league just like DHall.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 21, 2011 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Heyer has developed into a solid modular backup that you need in a 23 game season..Especially when he's run blocking..

Posted by: frak | January 21, 2011 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Moe

U missed the point

The pats don't fall into that category

I said what's the point of shutting people down if you can't score??

The pats r the opposite, they score and have shutting people completely down

So take the jets, they stop people all day, could you imagine tho if every time they stopped someone they couldn't get a first down??? They there great d would go to waste. There offense would be putting there d on the field the whole game. Therefore there good d would stop people yet there bad o(hypothectically remember) would put the d right back on the field

Ur pats argument doesn't qualify, like mhartz that argument is too small for this ride

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 21, 2011 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Moe

The reason our line sucks is not because these guys are first time starters, its because they shouldn't have been starters period.

Rabach?? Idk how u see him as a 1st time starter, he spends more time on his back than a turtle who can't turn over. He needs to go bad.

Lichtenstieger??? He was cut by two different teams before we picked him up of the street. I hope he's not one of the two you say could be really good is he?? The only thing making him a starter is the fact that we got no one else. He needs to go, bad.

Hicks!!! You got him anointed as a good player?? Have u forgetten he was brought in the be a backup behind a FAT GUY in a ZONE scheme?? Please tell me ur not placing all your eggs in thatbasket???

RT n LT to me seems to be the only spot we do have taken care of which actual guys who could start on a different team. I don't know any team that would start any of those 3 guys listed. Maybe as back ups or if there starter goes to IR but that's a big maybe. To me if there not good enough to start on another team why the hell should they get to start on ours??? The reason..... WE HAVE NOBODY!!! OUR OLINE IS THE WORST IN THE LEAGUE!!

WE NEED 3 INTERIOR O LINEMAN

I DON'T CARE IF THEY WILL BE ROOKIES, LOOK AT POUNCEYS BRO, SOLID ROOKIE YR

TO ME WETHER THERE A ROOKIE OR A TEN YEAR VET DOESN'T MATTER IF THEY CAN BALL

WE HAVE WAY TOO MANY GUYS THAT CAN'T BALL N THAT'S WHY WE GET BALLED UP

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 21, 2011 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Brandon, it's called team development. This is where you take newer players, let them learn the system, and if they show progress, you continue to work with them.

If we take your approach, we will be getting 4 new OL every frickin' year. The 3 OL that we need to go forward with are TW, Lichensteiger and Wil Montgomery.

Rabach was a good C, but not this past year. So I think we need to replace him. KL and WM both can play C, so coaches need to decide which one should play C, or if we sign a new C, and keep them at OG.

We need a RT. JBrown's contract is over, so we need to either resign him or replace him in FA.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 21, 2011 1:17 PM | Report abuse

beep-beep swooping in chastise all the Duke jokers in 3...2...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2011 11:54 AM

Beeps must have sent me a virus...been locked out of RI for over an hour wtf...AND missed all of monk's hilarious Duke jokes!

Posted by: PlayAction | January 21, 2011 1:20 PM | Report abuse

fredie

....it's called team development. This is where you take newer players, let them learn the system, and if they show progress, you continue to work with them..


Thanks...

And the team must snag a occasional top rounder as a starter to go along with the low and mid round guys, too.

That's how you build a line: by taking defensive and offensive linemen with each draft.

One dominate o-linemen won't fixed our line.

5 capabale guys will.

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2011 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Vinny Cerrato gets to the playoffs -- on the radio
By Jason Reid

_____________________________________

"and the gates of hell have opened, and there the rat Cerrato has emerged!"

why is J Reid even writing this on the post? PURE GARBAGE!

Posted by: datruth21 | January 21, 2011 1:24 PM | Report abuse

some nights I awake in a cold sweat ... that Bruce Allen has been determined to be a failure ... and that Mr. Snyder demands the return of Vinny Cerrato.

Good luck on your radio career, Vinny (please succeed ... and stay away from the Skins!)

Posted by: dcsween | January 21, 2011 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Fredie

No we wouldn't grab 4 every year. I just want us to actually draft young kids we wanna see developed. We got 2 lineman in the draft since samuels n jansen. Ironically that may be the last time we had a decent o line.

I say resign j brown, keep tw and montgomery, then keep heyer, licth, n hicks as backups.

O line represents the biggest grouping of players on the field at any time

Why not have the biggest group of people as ur strong point??

I seem to remember us doing well with such a group??

I believe they were called the hogs?? They had multiple different QBs n RBs n they still had success

What that means to me is simple, good o line n then you can plug in other people n still have success.

Ya sure I want 3 new starters but its not because our guys had a bad year, its because they have bad careers.

To me being a back up then thrust into starting is worse than finding a young guy that can start day 1 n hold down the spot for a decade.

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 21, 2011 1:27 PM | Report abuse

I've observed how some Skins fans seem genuinely disappointed that one of our own Skins players made the pro-bowl.

I've noticed how quickly venom is turned on ex-Redskins who have gone on the do well elsewhere.

I've seen how quickly RI bloggers turn on each other and take offense to the smallest perceived slights.

Then I ran across this little factoid:

In the last 19 years, only two NFC teams have not reached the conference championship--the Redskins and The Lions.

Yeah, that stinks, and a lot of us have a belly full of complaints... but I'm fighting my guts out to keep the Optimism Bus going for at least 6 more days.

I guess I'm not alone!

Posted by: Alan4 | January 21, 2011 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Prediction Math:

Stillers v. Jets= Stillers


Bears v. Packers= Packers


Packers v. Stillers= Packers


Why?: the best all around defensive team in the playoffs belongs to the packers.

pick'em:

Best Secondary guy: Polamalu/Woodsen/Revis/Cromartie/Tillman

Best defensive lineman: Peppers/Raji/Hampton/Pace/Harris

Best linebacker: Urlacher/Woodley/Harrison/Scott/Briggs/Matthews

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2011 1:33 PM | Report abuse

moe

I agree 5 capable guys will make a nice line

So now the question is who on our line right now do you deem capable??

Just like one great o lineman won't fix or line one defender won't fix our d

We have 3 or 4 holes on o line, depending if you like Brown at RT

On D we need 2 d lineman n 1 lb

So we got 3 major holes on each side of the ball agreed??

O line play affects every single play of every single game

Gotta open running lanes, gotta keep pass rushers of our qb, there success or failure determines the success or failure of our whole offense.

In the same post tho you gotta stop people n get to the QB to win also

Ok how bout this, well both be wrong n shanny will grab Cam Newton

Sadly I think that's what will happen

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 21, 2011 1:33 PM | Report abuse

In the last 19 years, only two NFC teams have not reached the conference championship--the Redskins and The Lions.

Posted by: Alan4 | January 21, 2011 1:32 PM

Out of ALL of your facts...I like this fact the least.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 21, 2011 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Maybe next we can have a post about Brandon Loyd and his music career.

Posted by: RedskinJim1 | January 21, 2011 1:37 PM | Report abuse

fred

You say we should see how they do n then see if we should work with them???

So what's ur grades for those guys???

Who impressed you and earned there starting spot???

If you guys are cool with having sub standard talent starting at some of our most important spots that's just silly.

The fact of the matter is we could have 4 new starters on the line next year and its not like they could get worse??

We only got room to grow

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 21, 2011 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Fredie

No we wouldn't grab 4 every year. I just want us to actually draft young kids we wanna see developed. We got 2 lineman in the draft since samuels n jansen. Ironically that may be the last time we had a decent o line.

I say resign j brown, keep tw and montgomery, then keep heyer, licth, n hicks as backups.

O line represents the biggest grouping of players on the field at any time

Why not have the biggest group of people as ur strong point??

I seem to remember us doing well with such a group??

I believe they were called the hogs?? They had multiple different QBs n RBs n they still had success

What that means to me is simple, good o line n then you can plug in other people n still have success.

Ya sure I want 3 new starters but its not because our guys had a bad year, its because they have bad careers.

To me being a back up then thrust into starting is worse than finding a young guy that can start day 1 n hold down the spot for a decade.

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 21, 2011 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Well, the Hogs played in an era before free agency.

I understand the frustrations with our OL. But I really do think WM and KL were beginning to play better football in the last 4-6 games. I think Casey was not as good as he has been, and I see him as our weak link.

This draft is not expected to be as strong on OL as last year was. So I think we need to see if WM and KL will continue to develop. I'm all for resigning JB.

And I'm in favor of signing one FA, either as C or OG. But FA's are expensive. To go out and sign 2 OL really begins to eat into the cap space, assuming there is one this year.

I'm not sure Hicks will be on the team this year. Perhaps Eric Cook can fill his spot, with younger legs, and a year under his belt.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 21, 2011 1:41 PM | Report abuse

People who blog or chat in all CAPS are d-bags...

Posted by: mhartz1 | January 21, 2011 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, they are NERDS!!!

Posted by: monk811 | January 21, 2011 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: MColeman51 | January 21, 2011 1:42 PM | Report abuse

fred

My thoughts are grab kalil in free agency, then draft pouncey, so our line would be

T williams, pouncey, kalil, montgomery, brown

That's a solid upgrade

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 21, 2011 1:44 PM | Report abuse

People who blog or chat in all CAPS are d-bags...

Posted by: mhartz1 | January 21, 2011 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, they are NERDS!!!

Posted by: monk811 | January 21, 2011 1:42 PM

WHAT? I THOUGHT THAT IT'S CAPS LOCK FRIDAY?

Posted by: PlayAction | January 21, 2011 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Brandon,

What you don't realize is that the Hogs were made up of 2 rookie free angents a 1st round pick a 3rd round pick and an 11 round pick who was cut by the Skins and then braught back a few years later.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 21, 2011 1:46 PM | Report abuse

I kind of agree with Moe.....we are maybe 2 players away from having a solid line...I think that could be solved by replacing one of the interior positions (RG, C or LG) and perhaps finding out who is going to be the R.T (resign Jammal Brown) in 2011.

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | January 21, 2011 1:48 PM | Report abuse

The blog has been resting peacefully since the last time beep beep was here ... makes a body wonder he himself is resting in peace.

Posted by: dcsween | January 21, 2011 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Anybody see this? Is our boy Danny in trouble?

http://backporch.fanhouse.com/2011/01/20/dan-snyders-investment-fund-faces-lawsuit-over-golden-globes/

Posted by: MColeman51 | January 21, 2011 1:42 PM


That's kinda like when George Allen used to trade draft picks he didn't have.

Posted by: wireman65 | January 21, 2011 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Flound

I referenced the Hogs for the last time our o line had a shred of respect not as much as to reference there number round drafted.

Monk

NERD!!!

Goose

I agree with what you said but I'm lost on where moe said that??

Moes desires are every pic to be used on defense, nt, de, olb, dt, ilb fs, cb

He's got a point there too

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 21, 2011 1:57 PM | Report abuse

And I'm in favor of signing one FA, either as C or OG. But FA's are expensive. To go out and sign 2 OL really begins to eat into the cap space, assuming there is one this year.

I'm not sure Hicks will be on the team this year. Perhaps Eric Cook can fill his spot, with younger legs, and a year under his belt.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 21, 2011 1:41 PM

I think as far a FA goes, these positions aren't real cap killers. Mankins may cost a bunch of $$, but there are several mid to above level players that are solid that should be expensive, relatively speaking The key of course is to get the right player that fits the scheme Shanny incorporates.

Posted by: TWISI | January 21, 2011 2:08 PM | Report abuse

pick'em:

Best Secondary guy: Polamalu/Woodsen/Revis/Cromartie/Tillman

Best defensive lineman: Peppers/Raji/Hampton/Pace/Harris

Best linebacker: Urlacher/Woodley/Harrison/Scott/Briggs/Matthews

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2011 1:33 PM

Moe, even though the Big fella often pulls stuff out of his dark side, I don't think Ben can pull another rabbit out against the Jets' front seven because the Steelers line is still so much duct tape and super glue.

On Packers v. Bears, Packers now have a running back back ... but Bears D is on a major roll. I dunno, but I'm feeling the home crowd thing there (even though its only a few hours from Green Bay to Chicago).

On LBs, I think Briggs' play has been the difference maker. Harris in NYJ is underrated and he gets that one. The Steelers rise/fall on the presence of Polamalu ... so I pick him to round out my pick em.

Posted by: dcsween | January 21, 2011 2:13 PM | Report abuse


Twisi

Mankins, kalil, college (GB) are 3 guys that may visit us in the offseason

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 21, 2011 2:13 PM | Report abuse

This offseason should be among the most interesting ever. The number of players coming out of college early hit a record and the CBA is going to fundamentally change a lot. But we don't know how its going to change things.

There will be many more free agents than usual -- a lot that weren't happy with how they were treated in 2010.

If this team can be transformed in 1 offseason, its probably this one. There may well be more player turnover, league-wide, this offseason than ever before.

The problem is that our personnel guys just haven't proven themselves to be that good in FA, trades or drafts.

Plus, it will be hard to do with youth, because we have a shortage of mid round draft picks.

I think Danny will give Shanahan the opportunity to see if he can accomplish a 1 year makeover.

I'm skeptical that it will work -- or that its the right approach.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 21, 2011 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Snyder and the Golden Globes,that ain't nuthin', JKC was totally freakin' sharkoid as a businessman...All those owner dudes is scary as hell in what they do..Krafty owns half the products you buy at the supermarket-you don't think he's not in league with the Insect God?? The Alien Reptilian Illuminati that runs the government and the world?? Morer nefarious than a bottle of Cheez-Whiz and a Las Vegas hooker..

Posted by: frak | January 21, 2011 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Z

I disagree bout the FO

I think they did well

Swapped picks with two teams n netted 2 starters, carriker n brown

FA last yr was super weak but we added 2 lineman, should be decent back ups, litch n hicks

The draft I believe we actually added 2 or 3 picks that we didn't have at the start of it, id say that's pretty decent for the low number we had going in

Let's see if the Shanaplan Phase 2.0 has similar success

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 21, 2011 2:23 PM | Report abuse

More nefarious than a bottle of Cheez-Whiz and a Las Vegas hooker.

Posted by: frak | January 21, 2011 2:15 PM

Wow. I didn't think there was anything more nefarious than that combo.

Posted by: dcsween | January 21, 2011 2:26 PM | Report abuse


In the last 19 years, only two NFC teams have not reached the conference championship--the Redskins and The Lions.

Posted by: Alan4 | January 21, 2011 1:32 PM
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somehow, in the last 10 of those years, we have become the laughingstock of the nfl, while the lions are on climbing their way out of the cellar

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Twisi

Mankins, kalil, college (GB) are 3 guys that may visit us in the offseason

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 21, 2011 2:13 PM |
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and signing these FA's would be what makes us the laughingstock of the nfl, same as it ever was

Posted by: hessone | January 21, 2011 2:30 PM | Report abuse

What's a nefarious?

Posted by: PlayAction | January 21, 2011 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Hess

Cmon man you know they won't wanna sign here!!

They gotta stop by here so there agent can inflate there rates DUHHH

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 21, 2011 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Moe's desires are every pic to be used on defense, nt, de, olb, dt, ilb fs, cb

Not necessarily true.

I want: q-back, NT, d-end, OLB, rt, c/g, FS

I want to use serious FA money to add a center and guard.

A vet FS, WR, and ILB would be nice to.


Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2011 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Cmon man you know they won't wanna sign here!!

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 21, 2011 2:33 PM

Why not...skins are an up and coming team...increased their wins by 50%...how many other teams can say that?

Posted by: PlayAction | January 21, 2011 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Z

I disagree bout the FO

I think they did well

Swapped picks with two teams n netted 2 starters, carriker n brown

FA last yr was super weak but we added 2 lineman, should be decent back ups, litch n hicks

The draft I believe we actually added 2 or 3 picks that we didn't have at the start of it, id say that's pretty decent for the low number we had going in

Let's see if the Shanaplan Phase 2.0 has similar success

Posted by: brandon_in_cali

??

Do you really want to add up all the trades and FA and conclude this group did well?

Heck, even Brown was a 1 year deal and he can go anywhere in 2011.


Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 21, 2011 2:38 PM | Report abuse

moe

Qback - d mac or grossman??

Nt- ant bryant, maybe a 5th rnder??

De- ???

Old- tamba hali?? Elvis dummervil??

C- kalil??

Lg- mankins???

Rt jamal brown??

Fs champ bailey?? Or kevin barnes??

How's that lookin??

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 21, 2011 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Z

I disagree bout the FO

I think they did well

Swapped picks with two teams n netted 2 starters, carriker n brown

FA last yr was super weak but we added 2 lineman, should be decent back ups, litch n hicks

The draft I believe we actually added 2 or 3 picks that we didn't have at the start of it, id say that's pretty decent for the low number we had going in

Let's see if the Shanaplan Phase 2.0 has similar success

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 21, 2011 2:23 PM | Report abuse

I agree, brandon. The problem in the past was DS and VC, at least I hope that was the problem. So we can't be certain about our scouting dept. But they did quite well last year with what was available. This year there will be much more to pick from.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 21, 2011 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Select the better word:

a. hoe

b. hooker

c. mrsmoe

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2011 2:40 PM | Report abuse

I know someone who laughs like Vinny. I have threatened to choke that person if they ever laugh like that in my presence before 10a.m.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | January 21, 2011 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Cmon man you know they won't wanna sign here!!

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 21, 2011 2:33 PM

I can see why you might think that but I'd bet you're wrong. Hear me out...First off, players want to play for proven coaches, Shanahan is that. People still think they can get paid here, and if they play well, they can. Shanahan punking Fatass and McScabb and putting a bunch of practice squaders on the field shows players that hard work and buying into a system is rewarded. There won't be any favoritism here.

I know, you're sittin' there saying "nobody wants to play for a guy that treats his players that way." Wrong, no one wants to play for a guy that let's the fattened calf skate while everyone else busts their balls only to have to sit behind the lazy oaf. The best will play.

"What about how he treated McNabb?" You mean the guy that threw dirt ball after dirt ball? He got benched, he deserved it. Yes the explanation was wack but he sucked and wasn't improving.

This team got quite a bit younger during this last season and will continue to do so. People will want to play here.

Posted by: TheScamp75 | January 21, 2011 2:47 PM | Report abuse


Hess

Cmon man you know they won't wanna sign here!!

They gotta stop by here so there agent can inflate there rates DUHHH

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 21, 2011 2:33 PM |
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got a crystal ball do ya ?

Posted by: hessone | January 21, 2011 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Oh...and wierd how my screen name keeps changing arbitrarily.

Posted by: TheScamp75 | January 21, 2011 2:50 PM | Report abuse

To day VC, tomorrow Zorn. Here's a sneak preview:


Transcript of Jim Zorn's Interview with Pete Carroll for Seattle Offensive Coordinator

http://www.hogshaven.com/2011/1/21/1948373/transcript-of-jim-zorns-interview-with-pete-carroll-for-seattle#storyjump

Posted by: kerzon417 | January 21, 2011 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Wow scamp...you got me all pumped up...I wanna play for the Redskins!

Posted by: PlayAction | January 21, 2011 2:55 PM | Report abuse


You REALLY Should read this. It will tall you more about people who post here than any piece I've read...

http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/01/21/pearlman.online.civility/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn

Posted by: TheCork | January 21, 2011 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn’t it be nice if they opened his broadcast up to the public and accepted fan questions…Every Redskin fan should call and heckle the googley eyed sucker head.
Hahaha…that would be worth listening to.

Posted by: fat_back | January 21, 2011 2:56 PM | Report abuse

got a crystal ball do ya ?

Posted by: hessone | January 21, 2011 2:48 PM

I have two crystal balls.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 21, 2011 2:57 PM | Report abuse

To day VC, tomorrow Zorn. Here's a sneak preview:


Transcript of Jim Zorn's Interview with Pete Carroll for Seattle Offensive Coordinator

http://www.hogshaven.com/2011/1/21/1948373/transcript-of-jim-zorns-interview-with-pete-carroll-for-seattle#storyjump

Posted by: kerzon417 | January 21, 2011 2:52 PM

Funny stuff.

Posted by: TheScamp75 | January 21, 2011 2:59 PM | Report abuse

got a crystal ball do ya ?

Posted by: hessone | January 21, 2011 2:48 PM

I have two crystal balls.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 21, 2011 2:57 PM |

I only have one. :(

Signed,

Lance Armstrong

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | January 21, 2011 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Wow scamp...you got me all pumped up...I wanna play for the Redskins!

Posted by: PlayAction | January 21, 2011 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Hey, you should still be working on buying the team so I can work with the cheerleaders!!!

ALL CAPS FRIDAY RULES!!!

Posted by: monk811 | January 21, 2011 3:00 PM | Report abuse

I only have one. :(

Signed,

Lance Armstrong

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | January 21, 2011 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, but I lost one before you did!

Signed,
John Kruk

Posted by: monk811 | January 21, 2011 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Twisi

Mankins, kalil, college (GB) are 3 guys that may visit us in the offseason

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 21, 2011 2:13 PM

Davin Joseph and Ryan Harris will stop by too. I know some bloggas are not big fans to using the FA market. However I'd get my starters via this route and use the draft on developmental prospects.

Posted by: TWISI | January 21, 2011 3:04 PM | Report abuse

I only have one. :(

Signed,

Lance Armstrong

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | January 21, 2011 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, but I lost one before you did!

Signed,
John Kruk

Posted by: monk811 | January 21, 2011 3:04 PM |

Don't forget me!

Sincerely, Tom Green

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | January 21, 2011 3:17 PM | Report abuse

People will want to play here.

Posted by: TheScamp75 | January 21, 2011 2:47 PM

Money it pretty much goes without saying (though I have) may be the most important one, but there are whole lots of reasons for players to pick somewhere in free agency - scheme, opportunity/role they will play, coaching staff, size of the local media market, get talked into it by the teams officials etc.

The last could be interesting with Bruce Allen for example. Take Haloti Ngata.

If I were trying to recruit Ngata I would emphasise how he could come in and be the player to make our 3-4 work, be the central piece of a potentially dominant defense thats building rather than a piece in a defense that was already great before he got there and without criticising the individuals or team point out that some of the other key parts (apart from him of course!) are getting up in years (Lewis, Gregg, Reed).

Then hope he didn't notice I was full of sh!t.

Posted by: craig81 | January 21, 2011 3:17 PM | Report abuse

I only have one. :(

Signed,

Lance Armstrong

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | January 21, 2011 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, but I lost one before you did!

Signed,
John Kruk

Posted by: monk811 | January 21, 2011 3:04 PM |

Don't forget me!

Sincerely, Tom Green

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | January 21, 2011 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Davin Joseph and Ryan Harris will stop by too. I know some bloggas are not big fans to using the FA market. However I'd get my starters via this route and use the draft on developmental prospects.

Posted by: TWISI | January 21, 2011 3:04 PM

I kinda hoped we would make a move for Harris - fits Shannys system (he drafted Harris afterall)and is a hard working, character guy who can play guard and right tackle and hadn't really fit McDaniels system(though I was less happy re his injury history).

Then I read this on PFW:

Posted Jan. 20, 2011 @ 1:07 p.m. ET
By Alex Mayster
'While the future of ORT Ryan Harris remains up in the air, we hear the hiring of John Fox as Broncos' head coach should improve the chances of the free-agent-to-be returning in 2011. Fox has been known to employ zone-blocking schemes on his offensive lines, something Harris excelled at in his All-Pro season in ’08. Injuries have kept him from performing at that level the past two seasons, but at full health, Harris could be the type of player Fox would want to pair with OLT Ryan Clady to bookend the O-line. A daily team observer said it is very likely Harris would want to remain in Denver. Harris recently started a medical service company there, and has his own radio show in the Mile High city. A PFW insider described the Notre Dame product as a genuinely nice, well-spoken player who makes the right decisions on and off the field. With a number of off-the-field incidents involving players in recent months, Harris could be a player the Broncos want to bring back.'

Mostly speculative, but why oh why couldn't they have got another coach like McDaniels whose system Harris didn't ideally fit?

Posted by: craig81 | January 21, 2011 3:25 PM | Report abuse


Personal_Fowl

you have no balls

get lost you POS

Posted by: hessone | January 21, 2011 3:27 PM | Report abuse

OMsjk'nG

Why can't this blog focus on Redskin related stuff?!! Whatever. It's all talked to death anyway.

Cerrato as a sportshole... well, that figures.

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 21, 2011 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Scamp

I was bustin hess balls but u make a great point

Good players will want to come here now, no longer the prima donas we signed in the past

I do think that the prima donas will swing by ashburn tho, soley to inflate there value to other teams, or atleast in an effort to do so.

I'm not one of those draft only or fa only types

I'm more about getting our guys we like, regaurdless of method.

Draft, FA, trades, Undrafteds to me doesn't matter as long as the guys giving us the best chance to win are on the field

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 21, 2011 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Scamp

I was bustin hess balls but u make a great point

Good players will want to come here now, no longer the prima donas we signed in the past

I do think that the prima donas will swing by ashburn tho, soley to inflate there value to other teams, or atleast in an effort to do so.

I'm not one of those draft only or fa only types

I'm more about getting our guys we like, regaurdless of method.

Draft, FA, trades, Undrafteds to me doesn't matter as long as the guys giving us the best chance to win are on the field

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 21, 2011 3:31 PM | Report abuse

I only have one. :(

Signed,

Lance Armstrong

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | January 21, 2011 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, but I lost one before you did!

Signed,
John Kruk

Posted by: monk811 | January 21, 2011 3:04 PM |

Don't forget me!

Sincerely, Tom Green
_______________________
I'm one ahead of you

Sincerely,
Farinelli

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 21, 2011 3:32 PM | Report abuse

I wonder how a baseball player can still hit with only one nut...thats gotta throw off their balance.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 21, 2011 3:38 PM | Report abuse


Personal_Fowl

you have no balls

get lost you POS

Posted by: hessone | January 21, 2011 3:27 PM |

Your mother loved the way they rhythmically slapped her crinkled starfish, you dive ass loser.

PS - You can tell her the check is in the mail, biotch.

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | January 21, 2011 3:55 PM | Report abuse

I only have one. :(

Signed,

Lance Armstrong

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | January 21, 2011 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, but I lost one before you did!

Signed,
John Kruk

Posted by: monk811 | January 21, 2011 3:04 PM |

Don't forget me!

Sincerely, Tom Green
_______________________
I'm one ahead of you

Sincerely,
Farinelli

Posted by: DikShuttle | January 21, 2011 3:32 PM

That was all surgically done. Try hot lead and no anesthesia.

Bow down to Tha Row,

Tupac

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 21, 2011 4:10 PM | Report abuse

That was all surgically done. Try hot lead and no anesthesia.

Bow down to Tha Row,

Tupac

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 21, 2011 4:10 PM |

I guess that would mean he'd now be "1-Pac"?

Posted by: Personal_Fowl | January 21, 2011 4:15 PM | Report abuse

This offseason should be among the most interesting ever. ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 21, 2011 2:14 PM

... unless there isn't one because they don't get a CBA re-done and have a year long p!ss!ing match like the NHL. If a draft pick doesn't sign by the end of the following league year, he becomes a free agent. Now THAT would make for an interesting year to start free agency.

Posted by: dcsween | January 21, 2011 4:58 PM | Report abuse

What's a nefarious?

Posted by: PlayAction | January 21, 2011 2:31 PM

Is there a learnedhand in the house?

[something about continuous, adverse, nefarious, open, and exclusive ...]

Posted by: dcsween | January 21, 2011 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Roberts said. "He's not worried [that] what he (Cerratto) says might prevent him from getting another executive role with a team in the NFL."

No, Cerratto NEVER has to worry that what he might say would prevent him from getting another exec role.

His all-time crappy work as a Redskins exec has already guaranteed that and then some.

Posted by: p1funk | January 21, 2011 5:18 PM | Report abuse

I don't think there is anything Cerrato could ever say to get him another executive role with any team in the NFL.

Posted by: dcsween | January 21, 2011 5:23 PM | Report abuse

bw26- Orakpo is in the pro bowl...Good for both of them. I don't watch the pro bowl but it's a measurement most jackwagons use to define a player (as you are doing). DHall is the equivalent of a baseball player that hits 30 HRs but strikes out too much, bats .210, has a weak arm, and uses a frying pan instead of a glove in the field. Casual observers like yourself will tout the 30 HRs and ignore the rest. It's why he was a top 8 pick, only 26 YRs old but is on his 3rd team.

It's as easy to track a CB's yards against as it is to track a receiver's YDs gained.


Posted by: Diesel44 | January 21, 2011 1:16 PM | Report abuse


Diesel, where were you last year on this topic when DeAngelo Hall was touting one of the best "QB ratings against" stats in the league?

Were you one of the guys bashing him b/c he couldn't tackle?

Can he still not tackle? Does he still suck at tackling this year?

I don't get how folks can say on the one hand that DHall doesn't "deserve" to go to the ProBowl, and then say on the other hand that the Pro Bowl is a big joke that doesn't mean anything.

So what gives?

Is he undeserving of the honor? Or is it just a joke honor? Because it's tough to have it both ways.


All that I've ever heard (and said) about Hall is that he's got elite talent (which is more than can be said for Carlos Rogers). Over the years he's shown it in different ways. Last year he showed it by being an elite cover guy. This year he showed it by making big turnovers and playing very physical with his tackling.

At 26 years old, he's still got time to put it altogether.


And what's with all this "3rd team" stuff? What does that even mean?

Deion Sanders played on 5 teams - does that make him some kind of scrub?

Posted by: p1funk | January 21, 2011 5:32 PM | Report abuse

RI dudes. Gas what. The rates for St Farts have dropped like balls at puberty so I am off for a week. Mine will be nice and warm while back in DC yours will be as cold as the ice in your fridge. Enjoy!

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 21, 2011 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: p1funk | January 21, 2011 5:32 PM

You and I already went over this. You ignored the overall rankings last year from profootballfocus that had DHall 65th and hand picked one category.

Is he undeserving of the honor? No, but who cares...Just don't use the pro bowl to define a player's career.

I'm done with this topic. To quote Yoda, "I cannot teach him, the boy has no patience, he does not want to learn."

Carry the DHall flag as you will...

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 21, 2011 5:42 PM | Report abuse

On my way out the door I wanted to leave you with a thought about one the real faves on RI - MistaMoe ain't just a dick, he's a Moeby dick!

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 21, 2011 5:42 PM | Report abuse

I don't think there is anything Cerrato could ever say to get him another executive role with any team in the NFL.

Posted by: dcsween | January 21, 2011 5:23 PM

What Vinny says will be listened to ... if he also has compromising pictures of the owner he's speaking to ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 21, 2011 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 21, 2011 5:42 PM |

Dude - how about an update on:

1. Doc Doofenshmirtz' smokin hot daughter

2. Trolls of many handles

3. The persecution of MistaMoe

Posted by: FartezDudmore | January 21, 2011 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: p1funk | January 21, 2011 5:32 PM |

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 21, 2011 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: p1funk | January 21, 2011 5:32 PM

You and I already went over this. You ignored the overall rankings last year from profootballfocus that had DHall 65th and hand picked one category.

Is he undeserving of the honor? No, but who cares...Just don't use the pro bowl to define a player's career.

I'm done with this topic. To quote Yoda, "I cannot teach him, the boy has no patience, he does not want to learn."

Carry the DHall flag as you will...

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 21, 2011 5:42 PM | Report abuse


No I did not ignore it.

I specifically pointed out that what I was looking at was "coverage".

The overall rankings calculate coverage AND the players performance in run support.

It was DHall's poor play in run support that contributed to him dropping so far down.

Not only that, but the ProFootball Focus people also acknowledge that their rankings have an "eyeball" element. Basically, the rankings are weighted based on who they think played well, along with the measurables.

So the bean-counters are free to have their opinions, just like everyone else.

I pointed out the "QB rating against" stat for the very reason that it incorporates a range of stats - yards against, TD/Int ratio, completion % against - into one measurable.

Based on that, DHall played at an elite level in coverage - there's no fighting that reality.

This year he muffed plenty of coverages, but increased his big plays and had a great year tackling guys.

Don't use the pro bowl to define his whole career? Back atcha. You are using one season's worth of "yards against" stats to do the same.

Like I've been saying all along, the dude has elite talent and can still put it together.

And yes, I'm rooting all the way for him. Proud to do it. I'll carry the flag since he's one of our guys repping the burgundy n gold.

Whose flag are you carrying?

Posted by: p1funk | January 21, 2011 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Cerrato's name should never be mentioned he again...

Championship game predictions:
http://robb-crocker.blogspot.com/2011/01/conference-championship-predictions.html

Posted by: robb9crock | January 21, 2011 6:00 PM | Report abuse

...here again

Posted by: robb9crock | January 21, 2011 6:02 PM | Report abuse

WE NEED TO WORK ON ONE SIDE OF THE BALL BEFORE WE MOVE TO THE OTHER. WE NEED HELP AT A SH*TLOAD OF POSITIONS BECAUSE OF CERRATO. FS, CB, JILB, NT, DE, WOLB, OGs, C, WR, QB, K,P, LS.

we should get vincent jackson in free agency, nnamdi assangha if price is okay, send McNabb AND Haynesworth to vikings for a 1st (think that can work), draft a Oline and Defense. Save QB need for next year so we can get LUCK, hes a future HOFer. The team wont win for a while but in 5 years, it could be a superbowl team.

Posted by: ALEX2128 | January 21, 2011 6:13 PM | Report abuse


Personal_Fowl = waste of oxygen

some day you might realize how weak it is to use someones mother as a way to get your point across. It's been used sooooo many times that most folks are numb to it. you really are a troubled soul

Posted by: hessone | January 21, 2011 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Cerrato's name should never be mentioned he again...
Championship game predictions:
http://robb-crocker.blogspot.com/2011/01/conference-championship-predictions.html

Posted by: robb9crock | January 21, 2011 6:00 PM

Uh oh, shameless blog plug by bob9c0ck

Posted by: TheScamp75 | January 21, 2011 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Personal_Fowl = waste of oxygen

some day you might realize how weak it is to use someones mother as a way to get your point across. It's been used sooooo many times that most folks are numb to it. you really are a troubled soul

Posted by: hessone | Jaary 21, 2011 6:16 PM |

Yea, I mean, I ran that SJK into the ground. I found so many new and inventive ways to use it that they can't be topped. Old...

Posted by: TheScamp75 | January 21, 2011 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Mike Wise is a pompous ass:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/21/AR2011012103811.html

Do you really think that a guy that knows 1000 times more about football than you can't figure out these wonderful revelations of yours? You should be less worried about a real football coach and more worried about your hackish writing style.

Posted by: TheScamp75 | January 21, 2011 6:39 PM | Report abuse

You REALLY Should read this. It will tall you more about people who post here than any piece I've read...

http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/01/21/pearlman.online.civility/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn

Posted by: TheCork | January 21, 2011 2:56 PM

Excellent post, Cork...really is good to see the other side of the coin and to know that there are repercussions for some of the stuff said by bloggers...whether we're around to see it or not.

That said, F JReid.

Kidding.

If anything, I feel a lot better about RI because even though there are a segment of people that come off as brain dead, it really isn't as bad as some of the stuff outlined in that article. Not much "I'll kill you" or hostile stuff to that extent, really just a bunch of frustrated Skins fans venting and debating.

Great food for thought though...maybe we'll all attempt to tone it down a bit having read that.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2011 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Mike Wise is a pompous ass:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/21/AR2011012103811.html

Do you really think that a guy that knows 1000 times more about football than you can't figure out these wonderful revelations of yours? You should be less worried about a real football coach and more worried about your hackish writing style.

Posted by: TheScamp75 | January 21, 2011 6:39 PM


C'mon scamp...you're better than this, dude. No self-respecting Skins fan should read a single sentence of that no talent hack ever again. I haven't read a word of his sh*t since he made sh*t up to "prove a point". Yeah Wise, I'ma prove a point alright...I steadfastly refuse to read anything with your name at the top EVER AGAIN...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2011 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Mike Wise is a pompous ass:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/21/AR2011012103811.html

Do you really think that a guy that knows 1000 times more about football than you can't figure out these wonderful revelations of yours? You should be less worried about a real football coach and more worried about your hackish writing style.

Posted by: TheScamp75 | January 21, 2011 6:39 PM |

Scamp,

I hate Wise he is terrible.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 21, 2011 6:57 PM | Report abuse

You REALLY Should read this. It will tall you more about people who post here than any piece I've read...

http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/01/21/pearlman.online.civility/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn

Posted by: TheCork | January 21, 2011 2:56 PM

Load o' crap. These dudes write all this unresearched and unsubstantiated crap time and again trying to rile people up and then get all indignant when someone turns the tables. Sure the personal attacks may go a little far but these writers often times have national or international audiences and yet fools like Don Banks post blatant falsities and d0uches like Mike Wise act like they are some football guru talking to a fanbase full of morons in their own market. (Didn't that guy get suspended for pulling some jackass stunt?) They write crap trying to stir up trouble and then cry when they get it. Here's a tip, if you're going to be a journalist then report accurate information in an unbiased way instead of talking to your audience like you're sooo much smarter than them. That way you can feel righteous indignation when someone attacks you. Otherwise you're just another Fox News or Washington Post spewing partisan yellow journalism.

Posted by: TheScamp75 | January 21, 2011 7:04 PM | Report abuse

C'mon scamp...you're better than this, dude. No self-respecting Skins fan should read a single sentence of that no talent hack ever again. I haven't read a word of his sh*t since he made sh*t up to "prove a point". Yeah Wise, I'ma prove a point alright...I steadfastly refuse to read anything with your name at the top EVER AGAIN...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2011 6:53 PM

Sometimes I just like to prove to myself that "journalists" don't deserve the large forum that they are so generously provided. Not all are like that, mind you, but I find very few these days that can report without some slant.

Posted by: TheScamp75 | January 21, 2011 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Scamp, did you read the article? Disagreeing with a guy and giving him sh*t over his opinion is fine, but some of the stuff outlined in the article was above and beyond...Rick Rolling a guy is one thing, smacking his PC with porn cookies is another.

I'm with you that the rebel-rousers get what's coming to 'em (like our boy Wise), but some people feel they can puff their chest out behind a keyboard when in "real life" they'd get that ass beat down if they tried the same tough talk in a one-on-one setting. If nothing else, the article is an interesting read.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2011 7:18 PM | Report abuse

"Great food for thought though...maybe we'll all attempt to tone it down a bit having read that.

Posted by: brownwood26 "

Did you ever see the movie "Pork Chop Hill"?? The reinforcements came in screaming like WILD REDSKINS, killin' Red Chinee butt all over..How do you expect us to tone it down??

Posted by: frak | January 21, 2011 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Here's a quick look at all 56 underclassmen entering the draft this year:


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/579678-2011-nfl-draft-power-ranking-every-underclassman-in-the-draft#page/1

Posted by: kerzon417 | January 21, 2011 7:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad that Vinny is out of the DC area but New York still feels to close. I say have him provide coverage for ESPN 550 Alaska. Then again we could send him to Hawaii where if we find out he's thinking about going back to DC we can send the Dog after him.

Posted by: Dirtbag359 | January 21, 2011 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Scamp, did you read the article? Disagreeing with a guy and giving him sh*t over his opinion is fine, but some of the stuff outlined in the article was above and beyond...Rick Rolling a guy is one thing, smacking his PC with porn cookies is another.

I'm with you that the rebel-rousers get what's coming to 'em (like our boy Wise), but some people feel they can puff their chest out behind a keyboard when in "real life" they'd get that ass beat down if they tried the same tough talk in a one-on-one setting. If nothing else, the article is an interesting read.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 21, 2011 7:18 PM |

Yeah, I read it. I do agree that personal attacks in an email to a journalist is stupid. Even on a blog it gets a little ridiculous (and I should know.) I tend to just give the writers SJK for the stuff they write and stick to that. I've sent more than a few emails to the Don Bankses and Mike Wises of the world but never anything porn or personal related. Usually just stick to what they write. I may call them stupid too.

Posted by: TheScamp75 | January 21, 2011 7:39 PM | Report abuse

Clay Maths-bro is a project OLD...dude could get in latter rounds, but von miller seems elite

Posted by: skinswillwin | January 21, 2011 8:30 PM | Report abuse

W%T#F TheScamp75

Who are you and what have you done with my good friend scampbell1975?

Posted by: skinshaveaGM | January 21, 2011 9:24 PM | Report abuse

W%T#F TheScamp75
Who are you and what have you done with my good friend scampbell1975?

Posted by: skinshaveaGM | January 21, 2011 9:24 PM |

HA! They blocked me at one point so I foiled their dasterdly plans and opened "TheScamp75." Now they switch my ID periodically for me.

Posted by: TheScamp75 | January 21, 2011 9:30 PM | Report abuse

p1funk- just like you were wrong about hiring Leach, who is still unemployed and suing anybody and everybody...you're wrong about Dhall.

Some day you'll see it my way and that day you'll know if you don't already...who's the man.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 21, 2011 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Too much talent n not enough draft picks

Story of our franchise

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 21, 2011 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Too much talent n not enough draft picks

Story of our franchise

Posted by: brandon_in_cali | January 21, 2011 9:42 PM | Report abuse

HA! They blocked me at one point so I foiled their dasterdly plans and opened "TheScamp75." Now they switch my ID periodically for me.

Posted by: TheScamp75 | January 21, 2011 9:30 PM

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Pity!

i That scampbell1975 was one crazy sum b_tch !

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Posted by: skinshaveaGM | January 21, 2011 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Pity!

i That scampbell1975 was one crazy sum b_tch !

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Posted by: skinshaveaGM | January 21, 2011 9:53 PM |

Yep, a straight wacko that one.

Posted by: TheScamp75 | January 21, 2011 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Yeah... he'll get offers from other franchises alright! Archuletta, Haynesworth, Jeff George and Deon Sanders cana't wait!

Posted by: Redskinrex | January 21, 2011 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Having a defense that can shut down teams is worthless if our offense can't put up points also.

The pats led the league in scoring and were shut down by the jets.

So how did a high scoring O help them?

Posted by: MistaMoe | January 21, 2011 1:01 PM

Interesting that the Pats havent won a Playoff game (three) since the league instituted wired defensive headsets so, defensive hand signals could not be videotaped. An implementation by the NFL to specifically prevent another "Pats Spygate".

Belichick may never win an important game again.

Posted by: onanygivensunday | January 21, 2011 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Interesting that the Pats havent won a Playoff game (three) since the league instituted wired defensive headsets so, defensive hand signals could not be videotaped. An implementation by the NFL to specifically prevent another "Pats Spygate".

Belichick may never win an important game again.

Posted by: onanygivensunday | January 21, 2011 10:09 PM |

Hmmmmm...

Posted by: TheScamp75 | January 21, 2011 10:14 PM | Report abuse


Belichick may never win an important game again.

Posted by: onanygivensunday | January 21, 2011 10:09 PM

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Especially with overrated Tom Brady. I mean the dud cares more about Men's Hair Fashion than football...maybe even Giselle the beard..heh heh

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Posted by: skinshaveaGM | January 21, 2011 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Especially with overrated Tom Brady. I mean the dud cares more about Men's Hair Fashion than football...maybe even Giselle the beard..heh heh

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Posted by: skinshaveaGM | January 21, 2011 10:18 PM

Brady isn't overrated. That's preposterous, if you need proof then feel free to Google his accomplishments that would be TOP 5 of all-time even if Belicheat did his thing.

As far as Giselle being a beard? Brady does where Ugg boots so maybe you're on to something there.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 21, 2011 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Schefter Q&A: (Redskins related exerpts)

-Joe (Maryland)

What would you advise Mike Shanahan and Bruce Allen to do in order to fix the Redskins for next year?

Adam Schefter (2:28 PM)

Fix the quarterback position, Joe. They thought they were on their way to doing it last off-season, when they acquired Donovan McNabb. Unfortunately it didn't work out for anybody. Until the Redskins can find a quarterback, they will struggle to compete for a championship.

-Jeff (Baltimore Maryland)

You know Mike Shanahan better than any journalist out there. What do you envision as his off-season plan to revitalize my beloved Skins, assuming there is a new CBA. We need so many things, a QB, OL, DL, LB, CB, Punter, Kicker . . . any chance he makes us alot better this offseason?

Adam Schefter (2:37 PM)

Shanahan has been digging in on tape and the one thing I can say is, once there is a new CBA, there will be plenty of change in Washington. If they get the CBA done this off-season, that change will be for next season. If the CBA gets done late, it will be next season. But there aren't a ton of players you look at on the Redskins roster as building blocks. There are some, but not a lot. And I think the Redskins know this and will act on it -- in all areas.

-Lucas (Reno, NV)

With the NFC West being so weak, I believe the 49ers are a veteran QB away winning the division. Assuming a CBA deal is made what would it take for them to acquire Kolb or Orton? If not them would McNabb relocate to the west coast?

Adam Schefter (2:39 PM)

Lucas: Kolb will be coveted by any team that needs a quarterback, and the Eagles always demand a lot in return. A lot. It will not be cheap by any stretch of the imagination to land Kolb or Vick. Orton and McNabb would be more afforable alternatives. I'm going to guess if there is a new CBA, Orton winds up going for a 2nd or 3rd-round pick, and McNabb goes for a conditional fifth-round pick that could go up to a 4th or 3rd based on playing time. That's just my sense, though. And the 49ers know they have to do something there.

-Joe (Maryland)

SCHEF!, Got any advice for our mutual friend Mike Shanahan on how to fix the Redskins? Are Haynesworth and Mcnabb worth anything above a seventh rounder in trade value?

Adam Schefter (2:47 PM)

Maybe Mike can package Haynesworth and McNabb to Tennessee for Vince Young and a 6th, Joe. What do you think of that one? I don't know how to get that deal done, but I know Washington is willing to deal both those players, Tennessee is willing to deal Young, why not find some way to work it out? But first we need a CBA.


Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2011 10:49 PM | Report abuse

(cont)

-Tabitha (NJ)

Do you think a new cba deal gets done or are they headed for a lockout ?

Adam Schefter (2:52 PM)

Lockout's coming, Tabitha. There are people who hope and think something can get done by early March. I am not one.

-Woody (Washington DC)

If Mike Shanahan doesn't improve the Redskins next year. Will Dan Synder dismiss him like Jim Zorn after his second season?

Adam Schefter (2:53 PM)

Dan Snyder wants to be patient and does not want to fire head coaches, Woody. But if the Redskins struggle next season, and have one of those ugly 5-11 campaigns, you know there will be calls for Shanahan's job. It's part of the whole deal.

-Andrew Baker (Tupelo)

Where do you think McNabb will be next season?

Adam Schefter (2:54 PM)

Great question, Andrew. So many teams need QBs -- Miami, Minnesota, Tennessee, San Francisco, Seattle, Arizona. Could be almost any of them except Arizona, which never has been interested in dealing for McNabb for whatever reason.

-Marc (Malden, MA)


Is it a foregone conclusion that the Redskins will draft Cam Newton?

Adam Schefter (3:02 PM)


Definitely not a foregone conclusion, Marc, especially considering that the Redskins have not studied extensive tape of Newton yet. Will the Redskins be looking to draft a quarterback at No. 10 if one is worthy? Absolutely. But if he's so worthy, don't you think Arizona at No. 5, San Francisco at No. 7 and Tennessee at No. 8 also would pick him first? Washington's in a tough spot and it's not a foregone conclusion it'll go for Newton at all.Anyway, thank you for all your questions and your time. Enjoy Championship Sunday. And remember Sunday NFL Countdown will be on at a new time Sunday, from 1 to 3 pm., leading up to the kickoff of the NFC Championship game. Please tune in and have a great weekend.Adam

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2011 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Brady isn't overrated. That's preposterous, if you need proof then feel free to Google his accomplishments that would be TOP 5 of all-time even if Belicheat did his thing.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 21, 2011 10:29 PM

I would say Brady is over rated now, considering the losses in the last 3 playoff games of the last 4 years. He looks very ordinary in these meaningful games without the ability to videotape defensive signals (thus steal). He hasnt won a big game since defensive hand signals disappeared.

To support this, there is an interesting comment by Doug Flutie when he was a backup to Brady back in 04 or 05...before the Pats were caught. He said he would listen in on his helmet during the Offensive plays and was amazed how the Pats Offensive Coordinator knew exactly what the Defense's formation and coverage would be before the snap. Brady or any QB would look great if he knew what was coming.

lots a links to this..
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=flutie+and+amazed+and+brady+and+plays+and+piped+and+helmet&cp=48&pf=p&sclient=psy&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=flutie+and+amazed+and+brady+and+plays+and+piped+and+helmet&pbx=1&fp=8ce0e008a607e93d

Posted by: onanygivensunday | January 21, 2011 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Bleacher Report Predictions:

Why the Washington Redskins Would Pull the Trigger

Albert Haynesworth has been nothing but trouble ever since he's been in a Redskins uniform. He wants out of D.C., and with the minimal effort he gives, D.C. wants him out even more.

Why the Minnesota Vikings Would Pull the Trigger

Pat Williams has announced that he's done in Minnesota. There were trade rumors of Haynesworth to the Vikings during the season, and now they really need a defensive tackle.

Trade Value

Future third round pick that could turn into a second

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Why the Washington Redskins Would Pull the Trigger

Mike Shanahan benched McNabb for the great Rex Grossman late in the season. McNabb says he wants to be released, but the Redskins won't just throw away a second and fourth round pick.

Why the Tennessee Titans Would Pull the Trigger

Vince Young is done in Tennessee so the Titans need a new quarterback. Jeff Fisher is in the last year of his contract and will want a proven signal caller to protect his job, not a rookie.

Trade Value

Third round pick

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Why the San Diego Chargers Would Pull the Trigger

Jackson held out most of the season as his agent and the Chargers could not come to a contract agreement. He was given the franchise tag, and if given another tag, along with another holdout, A.J. Smith may just get what he can out of a trade.

Why the Washington Redskins Would Pull the Trigger

Santana Moss was the Redskins' only solid wide receiver this season, and he's a free agent. They desperately need a receiver and were very close to trading for Jackson earlier in the year.

Trade Value

Second round pick

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 21, 2011 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Nice to see the Bleacher Report people can afford drugs.

No one gives up a high pick unless the contract is for more than a year and the player has shown he can play.

At this point, McNabb's contract is way overvalued and Albert's is really just a 1 year deal at this point.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 22, 2011 1:00 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2011 2:03 AM | Report abuse

You're welcome..

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2011 2:07 AM | Report abuse

Morning wood!

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 22, 2011 8:10 AM | Report abuse

The offseason has spawned a new RI word:

elite

Folks are yappin' that:

"Ya, so and so Rodgers is elite, but dat guy Grossman sucks like a cheap D.C. hooker."

Obviously, elite is the antonym for this past Fall's most used compound adjective dive ass.

So how can any RI member use these words in topical conversation to impress his friends?:

Examples:

"Bro, your dive ass, airheaded girlfriend is out front keying a car."

"Put down the bong and go stop her, cuz she doesn't know that the one she's scratchin' up is mine."

Or:

"We all thought Donovan McNabb was an elite quarterback, but he turned out to be just another dive ass Redskin free agent acquisition."

And that final example is what saddens as words like elite and dive ass are not in use this weekend in Chicago, Pittsburgh, Green Bay, and New York.

Championship is the new word on their football blogs.

And until we have some elite scouting, coaching, scheming, and roster usage, we'll just be another one of the 28 dive ass fanbases looking on reluctantly as someone else gets the trip to Disneyland, Lombardi Trophy, and MVP car.

Which is why I have these keys in my hand.

I plan to go scratch it up out of spite.

I just hope it's the right one.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 22, 2011 9:03 AM | Report abuse


moe

The offseason has spawned a new RI word:

elite
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television has brain-washed the nation moe. if you listen to the amount of times sports commentators / reporters use the word "elite" to describe an athlete as to how many times folks on this board use it...

Posted by: hessone | January 22, 2011 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Joe Madden and Manny Ramirez together? I see a head-on train wreck in the near future.
Its going to be the Rays version of Mike Shannahan and Fat Al.

http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2011/01/21/report-rays-to-sign-johnny-damon-manny-ramirez/?icid=maing%7Cmain5%7Cdl4%7Csec3_lnk2%7C38347

Posted by: onanygivensunday | January 22, 2011 10:26 AM | Report abuse

onanygivensunday

Joe Madden and Manny Ramirez together?...It's going to be the Rays version of Mike Shannahan and Fat Al.


Not so fast, my friend.

(INSERT Lee Korso's smiling ESPN College Football Mugshot)

Baseball and football managers/coaches are complete opposites.

Football is a militarist enterprise larded with war diction that smothers the fact that it's just a silly Fall game.

Baseball people know they are playing a game, and don't take things seriously.

The game means more to them than ultimate, fanatical control of it: that difference is what defines each sport.

You see, there is no conditioning test in baseball.

Or crying, for that mattah.

Joe Maddon will look away every time Manny-is-just-being-Manny provided the dread-locked one provides pop to the Rays' lineup in the form of the occasional 3 run homer.

And should that not happen, the Rays will slap Manny on the back, smile, and send him out the door.

Besides, the Rays have the best pitching in the AL East (Boston, the best hitting), and the added run support-threat is necessary on those days their best hurler is locked in battle with C.C./Burnett or Beckett/Lester.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 22, 2011 11:24 AM | Report abuse

http://www.redskinsgab.com/2011/01/21/cooleys-season/

I know, let's trade him!!! Stupid.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 22, 2011 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Besides, the Rays have the best pitching in the AL East (Boston, the best hitting), and the added run support-threat is necessary on those days their best hurler is locked in battle with C.C./Burnett or Beckett/Lester.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 22, 2011 11:24 AM

agreed, its a low risk, high reward signing..if Manny is somewhat productive.
However, a now much slower Damon could be a liability on the fast Trop outfield.

Both players have homes and family in FL so, its a good signing for them, as well.

As a Red sox fan up here near Boston.. we see alot of Joe Madden.. IMO he is the best Manager in the MLB.. Imagine if he had an NYY or Red Sox payroll.

Posted by: onanygivensunday | January 22, 2011 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Jasus, what's the name of the station - WIDIOT.

Posted by: getitritegov | January 22, 2011 11:48 AM | Report abuse

http://www.redskinsgab.com/2011/01/21/cooleys-season/

I know, let's trade him!!! Stupid.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 22, 2011 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Why is it stupid scampbell? Don't get me wrong, Cooley is better but not much better or younger than Davis. Cooley is young enough and has performed well to have good trade value. Cooley and Davis are the same thing.

I'm not saying they should absolutely do it, but if can get a 3rd or 4th round pick for him, I think you gotta listen.

Posted by: rickyroge | January 22, 2011 12:02 PM | Report abuse


I'm not saying they should absolutely do it, but if can get a 3rd or 4th round pick for him, I think you gotta listen.

Posted by: rickyroge | January 22, 2011 12:02 PM |
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cooley's stats alone should rate a 2nd round pick

Posted by: hessone | January 22, 2011 12:07 PM | Report abuse

I'm not saying they should absolutely do it, but if can get a 3rd or 4th round pick for him, I think you gotta listen.

Posted by: rickyroge | January 22, 2011 12:02 PM

Skins are 2-3 years away from the playoffs.. Cooley SHOULD be trade bait to accelerate the rebuilding process.. He will be insignificant 3 years from now (trending began last season).
Bruce Allen is not the FA personnel genius that can say the "Future is Now". His father used that phrase and brought half the perennial first place Rams with him. If Bruce Allen can acquire half the Pats' starting OLine or DLine.. then "yes" the "Future is Now".. otherwise.. the "Cooleys et al", should be "trade for picks" bait during the rebuild.
Like Andy Reid did with McNabb, "Sell High" and get the high picks, dont wait until the player's value begins to diminish with progressively reduced playing time.

Posted by: onanygivensunday | January 22, 2011 12:19 PM | Report abuse


Like Andy Reid did with McNabb, "Sell High" and get the high picks, dont wait until the player's value begins to diminish with progressively reduced playing time.

Posted by: onanygivensunday | January 22, 2011 12:19 PM |
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nice, I agree

Posted by: hessone | January 22, 2011 12:29 PM | Report abuse

"Skins are 2-3 years away from the playoffs.."

Skins fans is such optimists..

OK, we are lookin' at interior OL, DL, FS and WRs, mostly..3-4 defender-types..For the Shrine Game..Any of y'all shamans got a list of prospects to watch?

Posted by: frak | January 22, 2011 12:59 PM | Report abuse

"Skins are 2-3 years away from the playoffs.."

Skins fans is such optimists..

OK, we are lookin' at interior OL, DL, FS and WRs, mostly..3-4 defender-types..For the Shrine Game..Any of y'all shamans got a list of prospects to watch?

Posted by: frak | January 22, 2011 12:59 PM

53 best players available.
(practice squad too)

Posted by: onanygivensunday | January 22, 2011 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Is there a Terrell Suggs or Ray Lewis we can build a championship defense around?? Fletcher is good but he's gettin' old and got burned a few times this past year..Landry is our Reed in the backfield..

Lewis in college:
"As a freshman at the University of Miami, Ray Lewis was an immediate contributor and became a starter for the Hurricanes' final five games. He compiled 81 tackles, two sacks, two tackles for loss, and four pass deflections en route to being named to the freshman All-American team.

In his sophomore season, Lewis earned 1st team All-American and All-Big East honors. Lewis led the Big East with 153 tackles and also contributed 9 tackle for a loss, 2 sacks, and an interception for a Hurricanes team that had the nation's top-ranked defense and finished No. 6 in both the writers' and coaches' polls.[9]

Lewis' junior campaign was another successful one as he was once again named to the All-American[10] and All-Big East teams. He was also the runner up for the Butkus Award.[11] Lewis finished his junior season with 160 tackles, the 2nd highest in University of Miami team history behind only Ed Weisacosky's 164 in 1965. Lewis also totaled eight tackles for loss, two sacks, two interceptions, a forced fumble, four pass deflections and one touchdown. Against West Virginia University, Lewis contributed fifteen tackles.

Lewis led the Big East in tackles his final 2 seasons and accumulated the 5th most in Miami history despite having played only 3 seasons." -wikileaks

Posted by: frak | January 22, 2011 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Why is there air? If we draft Cam Newton , we should trade up and take Pouncey for those 4th and goal quarterback sneaks..

Posted by: frak | January 22, 2011 1:27 PM | Report abuse

I'm still in Redskin fan mode...AAAAAAAA!!!! TRAPPED FOR ETERNITY AS A REDSKIN FAN!!!AAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

Posted by: frak | January 22, 2011 1:31 PM | Report abuse

DO NOT smoke endo and watch "Don't Be a Menace to South Central While Drinking Your Juice in the Hood"..You may die laughing..couldn't reach the phone to call the ambulance, but lived anyway..

Juicin' is the cure for cancer, no sh*t-

http://www.amazon.com/Dr-Max-Gerson-Healing-Hopeless/dp/0976018616/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1295722090&sr=8-2-fkmr0

Posted by: frak | January 22, 2011 1:56 PM | Report abuse

this just in... the new Gov of Hawaii drops his quest for Obama's birth certificate like a hot rock.

why doesnt our Potus just show it? ummmm

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110122/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_birth_certificate_7

Posted by: onanygivensunday | January 22, 2011 2:19 PM | Report abuse

If you like Newton then you must be a patient person who ignores the fact that he is going to have to learn how to play QB. Playing in a one option spread where he looks at one receiver and then runs doesn’t translate to the NFL.

Dude is going to have to learn how to take snaps from center and then make 3,5,7 step drops while learning how to go thru his progressions. He’s a tremendous athlete but at a 4.7 40 he’s not running away from anyone.

Auburn’s Natl Championship will be vacated by the time he’s ready and I’d go no where near him at #10 and I’d bet your farm that he’s not even on Shanahan’s radar. If it’s a QB at #10 and Locker is on the board then that will be the pick……..book it.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2011 2:45 PM | Report abuse

We must trade Cooley while we can and while he still has value.

This is what the patriots do. Trade their older players while they still have value and before they start to decline in talent.

We have to root for the team and not individual players.

I repeat: TRADE COOLEY NOW!

In the grand scheme of things TightEnds are not that important anyway

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetyou | January 22, 2011 2:49 PM | Report abuse

"He’s a tremendous athlete but at a 4.7 40 he’s not running away from anyone."

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Dies, he has field speed. You know about this since you were a former player. I've seen him run away from fast db's in college.

Skins don't need him though

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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetyou | January 22, 2011 2:52 PM | Report abuse

OK, we are lookin' at interior OL, DL, FS and WRs, mostly..3-4 defender-types..For the Shrine Game..Any of y'all shamans got a list of prospects to watch?

Posted by: frak | January 22, 2011 12:59 PM

Ol - William Rackley, Hairston

DL - Beyond Marvin Austin, David Carter

FS - ?

WR - Aldrick Robinson, Toliver, Maehl,Whalen, Lester Jean

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Bonus

LB - Moch

QB - Devlin, Taylor, Enderle

Posted by: TWISI | January 22, 2011 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Danke shin, the tweez..Locker had a rough senior season, but there's no doubt he's a top athlete...U-Dub may not have been his best theatre..

Posted by: frak | January 22, 2011 3:09 PM | Report abuse

hessone

cooley's stats alone should rate a 2nd round pick


Not so fast, my friend.

(INSERT Lee Korso's smiling ESPN College Football Mugshot)

Patriot 'tweener tight ends Gronkowski and Hernandez may alter what folks want in tight ends, IMO.

Both rookies excelled as they didn't block as much as use their athleticism and speed
to take advantage of match up issues.

Too, the league seems suddenly awash with such tight ends (Finley, Moeki, Witten, Clark, Carlson, Gates, Daniels, Shaincoe, Pettigrew), meaning that guys like Cooley are more like early 2000 tight ends who could catch and block, but didn't exploit the entire field.

And so, given the big class of juniors declaring for the draft and 400 possible NFL FA, would you give up a 2nd/3rd rounder for what you might be able to draft or add?

Naaawww..

Cooley is good, but he doesn't frighten defenses.

(Fred Davis might...but that's another issue.)

And CC is of more value in our offense than any player we could add via the pick we'd get in return for moving him.

That is, unless that kid can outrun Cooley.

And a lot of the tight ends coming out of college now can.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 22, 2011 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Josh McDaniels signed on as the OC for the Ramses. He really stunk up the joint in Denver, espec when you take into consideration that stink don't travel very far in thin air. But McD did turn Brandon Lloyd into the league's leader in receiver yards. Many Skins fans will recall Lloyd as straight garbo when he was here in DC. So there were some glimmers for McD in D and many think he will eventually get another HC gig.

Posted by: JumboJimbo | January 22, 2011 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Olbermann's MSNBC Exit Was Weeks in the Making

Dude has time left on a 30 million dolla contract for a job where all he did was whine about liberal v. conservative politicians to an audience of lumpwits.

And actually, I've never seen him do whatever it is that he was paid to do.

But I digress.

The real question is:

How do I get that job now that he's gone?

I'll fight like a Michael Vick dawg to get it.

I'll even sexually harass Rachel Maddow provided her lawyer provides photo evidence she has female body parts.

And if she doesn't, I'll show her mine.

Moe and MSNBC would make a great screaming match.

The Right has Rush and I'll give the Left Madmoe.

FOX has O'Reilly and foxy mrsmoe will brighten many a man's day.

CNN is decidedly liberal and gimmiesummoe is excellent at spreading b.s.

And what does b.s. mean?: Best Stuff

What else?

Again, where's the application for Olbermann's old job.

I'm ready to interview.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 22, 2011 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Luck is still the ideal Shanahan quarterback, irregardless (wtf does that word mean??)..

Posted by: frak | January 22, 2011 3:27 PM | Report abuse

The HC of one of the Ravens opponents told his DC to stop Haloti Ngata, Balt's all pro DL, from hurryassing the QB. The DC told the HC "there's Ngata Haloti I can do".

Posted by: JumboJimbo | January 22, 2011 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Luck is still the ideal Shanahan quarterback ...

Posted by: frak | January 22, 2011 3:27 PM |

Wouldn't you think that accuracy, quick release and athleticism would be the ideal Shanahan QB?

Posted by: JumboJimbo | January 22, 2011 3:32 PM | Report abuse

So Big Corporate Media loses one of its few watchdogs, to Check and Balance BS is the American Way..And he was pretty funny sometimes..The Big Black SWAT truck creeps a little closer..

Posted by: frak | January 22, 2011 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetyou | January 22, 2011 2:52 PM

He's an intriguing talent that may not do well in the 40 at the combine. He's a long strider and is guy that never looks like he's really that fast but...You're right he did run away from a lot of guys this YR.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2011 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Todays required viewing: East West Shrine game @ 4pm on the NFL network.

http://www.shrinegame.com/en/Teams/Watchlist.aspx

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2011 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Like Andy Reid did with McNabb, "Sell High" and get the high picks, dont wait until the player's value begins to diminish with progressively reduced playing time.

Posted by: onanygivensunday | January 22, 2011 12:19 PM |

Actually he waited a yr too long. He was lucky he found a team like the Skins who gave up much more than the dud was worth - see two Dallas games at end of prev season.

Posted by: JumboJimbo | January 22, 2011 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Possible top 3 prospects..

Pat Devlin, QB, Delaware. He's drawn comparisons to Joe Flacco for a couple of years, mostly because he attended the same college. A tall kid that put up solid production, Devlin has drawn mixed reviews this week. Some have called him the best quarterback in the game - and that still may hold true even for those who have expressed disappointment in his throws this week. There's a lot on the line for Devlin in this game.

Chris Carter, DE/OLB, Fresno State. Carter always had the talent, and finally came through with an excellent senior season in which he accumulated 11 sacks and 16.5 tackles for loss. (He was productive as a junior, as well, with 13 tackles for loss and five sacks.) A 6'2", 240-pound 'tweener, Carter will likely get a lot of opportunities to drop into coverage in this game - and that's where scouts are most curious to see Carter play.

Michael Mohamed, ILB, California. A 6'2", 245-pound middle linebacker in one of America's toughest conferences, Mohamed is vastly experienced and is coming off a very productive career. Over four seasons, he amassed 339 tackles, 20 tackles for loss, six sacks and seven interceptions. Teams will love his intangibles, experience and production, but will have a keen eye on his general athleticism in this contest.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2011 3:42 PM | Report abuse

The Big Black SWAT truck creeps a little closer..

Posted by: frak | January 22, 2011 3:36 PM |

And them black helicopters are starting to swarm overhead like skeeters in a swamp in July.

Posted by: JumboJimbo | January 22, 2011 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Again, where's the application for Olbermann's old job.

I'm ready to interview.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 22, 2011 3:25 PM |

I think you missed the point. The didn't just fire Olb, they eliminated his job as well. Strident extremism ain't selling too well these days.

Posted by: JumboJimbo | January 22, 2011 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Josh McDaniels signed on as the OC for the Ramses.

Posted by: JumboJimbo | January 22, 2011 3:18 PM

Lets see.. Crennel, McDaniels, Groh, Mangini, Weis, Schwartz, Saban etc..
Zero for seven Belichick former assistants that have underwhelmed as Head Coaches.

Maybe the "videographer" had a much larger role in Belichick's success?

Odd that only one ex-assistant called him out on it (Mangini) and Belichick gets a 500k fine + loss of a 1st round pick. Yet, McDaniels only gets a $50k wrist slap for breaking league videotape rules three years later? Same Commissioner but, very disparate rulings.

Posted by: onanygivensunday | January 22, 2011 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Here's a few to watch frak:


West

Joe Barksdale, OT, LSU
Chris Carter, OLB, Fresno State
Nathan Enderle, QB, Idaho
Jeron Johnson, S, Boise
Jerrod Johnson, QB, Texas A&M
Karl Klug, DL, Iowa
Jeff Maehl, WR, Oregon
Da'rel Scott, RB, Maryland


East

Delone Carter, RB, Syracuse
Pat Devlin, QB, Delaware
Christian Hairston, OT, Clemson
Lester, Jean, WR, FAU - late round sleeper
Cliff Mathews, DE, South Carolina
Bruce Miller, DE, UCF - 9 sacks, two ints and a ff - could be a DE, OLB, or even MLB to some teams.
Cecil Shorts, WR, Mount Union
Terrence Tolliver, WR, LSU
Marvin Austin, DT North Carolina

Posted by: kerzon417 | January 22, 2011 3:54 PM | Report abuse

opps...
make that

Zero for seven Belichick former assistants that have succeeded as Head Coaches.

Posted by: onanygivensunday | January 22, 2011 3:56 PM | Report abuse

JumboJimbo

Strident extremism ain't selling too well these days.

This is true.

A friend who's a terrorist says they're not only fewer things to blow up, but also not a lot of people in them when you do.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 22, 2011 3:58 PM | Report abuse

dizzle44

Pat Devlin, QB, Delaware.

I'm wanting to see this kid.

If he can make the throws, move, has command and accuracy, I say he's the 2nd rounder.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 22, 2011 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Like Andy Reid did with McNabb, "Sell High" and get the high picks, dont wait until the player's value begins to diminish with progressively reduced playing time.

Posted by: onanygivensunday | January 22, 2011 12:19 PM |

Actually he waited a yr too long. He was lucky he found a team like the Skins who gave up much more than the dud was worth - see two Dallas games at end of prev season.

Posted by: JumboJimbo | January 22, 2011 3:40 PM
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yeah...Bruce Allen is sitting in his office thinking to himself.. "I have to find a front office that is as blindly compulsive as we are."

Even Al Davis got the best of Snyder with the JC deal. A NFL veteran starting QB for a 4th round pick.

Posted by: onanygivensunday | January 22, 2011 4:04 PM | Report abuse

If it’s a QB at #10 and Locker is on the board then that will be the pick……..book it.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2011 2:45 PM |

Before you say "book it" you might want to consider the following:

1. There were times when the dude don't give a shti:

Sat, Oct 23 @#18 Arizona L 44-14 3-4 (2-2)
Sat, Oct 30 vs#13 Stanford L 41-0 3-5 (2-3)
Sat, Nov 6 @#1 Oregon L 53-16 3-6 (2-4)

2. His passing sucked in Wash's bowl win over Neb so mebbe the dud is injured.

Posted by: JumboJimbo | January 22, 2011 4:10 PM | Report abuse

I have nt seen Devlin or Enderle, but Maehle is a MAN at WR and would be a devlish 3 to Moss and Armstrong..

Posted by: frak | January 22, 2011 4:16 PM | Report abuse

oh yeah, thanks kerzon..

Posted by: frak | January 22, 2011 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JumboJimbo | January 22, 2011 4:10 PM

He did have a handful of terrible games and his 53% career comp is worrisome.

Still think he's the best of the 1st RD QBs and I'm almost positive that Shanahan is going to love him. I'd rather wait until the 2nd for Ponder or Devlin or use that 4th we get for Haynie on Kaepernick.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2011 4:53 PM | Report abuse

West

Joe Barksdale, OT, LSU
Da'rel Scott, RB, Maryland

East

Terrence Tolliver, WR, LSU

Posted by: kerzon417 | January 22, 2011 3:54 PM |

Dude - what maps you usin?

1. MD is on the east coast

2. How can LSU be both east and west? Is one of the duds living on the west side of Baton Rouge and the other on the east side?

Posted by: JumboJimbo | January 22, 2011 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: kerzon417 | January 22, 2011 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Luck is still the ideal Shanahan quarterback ...

Posted by: frak | January 22, 2011 3:27 PM |

This yr's biggest whopper so far - Luck telling the wretched Panthers with a straight face that his decision to stay in school had nothing to do with them or their talentless team. He is a student athlete in the true sense of the term, on a mission to finish his studies at Mother Stanford.

Posted by: JumboJimbo | January 22, 2011 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Luck is still the ideal Shanahan quarterback ...

Posted by: frak | January 22, 2011 3:27 PM |

This yr's biggest whopper so far - Luck telling the wretched Panthers with a straight face that his decision to stay in school had nothing to do with them or their talentless team. He is a student athlete in the true sense of the term, on a mission to finish his studies at Mother Stanford.

Posted by: JumboJimbo | January 22, 2011 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Still think he's the best of the 1st RD QBs and I'm almost positive that Shanahan is going to love him. I'd rather wait until the 2nd for Ponder or Devlin or use that 4th we get for Haynie on Kaepernick.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2011 4:53 PM

Devlin's arm strength reminds me of Grossman's, which is disappointing. How easily can srm strength be developed?

Posted by: TWISI | January 22, 2011 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Quality comparison of Shanahan draft history v. Cerrato.

http://www.hogshaven.com/2011/1/21/1949235/history-lesson-2-on-shanahan

Posted by: Copious1 | January 22, 2011 5:13 PM | Report abuse

How easily can srm strength be developed?

Posted by: TWISI | January 22, 2011 5:12 PM |

It can't by and large. It's the result of having super duper ligs and tends in the shoulder and elbow that allow the thrower to snap the arm like a wet towel on a nutsack.

Posted by: JumboJimbo | January 22, 2011 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Quality comparison of Shanahan draft history v. Cerrato.

http://www.hogshaven.com/2011/1/21/1949235/history-lesson-2-on-shanahan

Posted by: Copious1 | January 22, 2011 5:13 PM |

How can that be accorinding to the idiots up here Shanny sucks at drafting.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 22, 2011 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 22, 2011 5:20 PM |

That's what's nice about a blog. You always have a diversity of opinion!

Posted by: JumboJimbo | January 22, 2011 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Pat Devlin Scouting Report

Pat Devlin

Pat Devlin - Delaware (HT: 6-3⅜ - WT: 226)
Combine 40: N/A - Pro Day 40: N/A - Position Rank: 5 of 20




Positives: Strong arm, not elite, but capable of making every throw that will be asked of him... Throws a great deep ball, very good arc on his throws... Extremely accurate, throws precision passes on a regular basis... Knows how to throw to places that only his receiver can make a play... Sets his receivers up to get yards after catch... Excels throwing crossing patterns and deep slants to the middle of the field.... Only threw three interceptions in 384 attempts this year... Picture perfect throwing motion, very fluid motion... Gets rid of the ball really quickly... Tough player, has continually played through injuries throughout his career... Good mobility in the pocket, does a great job avoiding pressure... Does a great job setting his feet to throw after scrambling.

Negatives: Inconsistent game to game, has some really big games and some really bad ones... Footwork has been problematic, gets out of position and has to re-adjust within the pocket... Drop steps could use some work... Needs to do a better job at reading coverages at the line of scrimmage... Gambles too much rather than throwing the ball away... Checks down to his underneath receiver far too often... Gets Joe Flacco comparisons due to transferring from high FBS program to play for Delaware, but isn't even close to him as far as NFL prospect... Playing at an FCS school can only hurt his draft stock... Will need time to develop, a two to three year project before he contributes in the NFL.


Posted by: Flounder21 | January 22, 2011 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Diesel44 is eeeeeeeee-villll...

This guy is a free safety captain-

http://www.byucougars.com/Profile.jsp?ID=6375

Posted by: frak | January 22, 2011 5:35 PM | Report abuse

One thing I seem to recall is a statement that Shanny looks very carefully at a prospective QB's mental attitude. Is the guy a fighter who can deal with adversity in a positive way? I say this because Cam Newton ain't the most polished QB in the draft but he did rally his team from deficits on numerous occasions while Jake Locker, who may be more polished than Newton, basically rolled over when Wash faced the toughest part of its sched:

Sat, Oct 23 @#18 Arizona L 44-14 3-4 (2-2)
Sat, Oct 30 vs#13 Stanford L 41-0 3-5 (2-3)
Sat, Nov 6 @#1 Oregon L 53-16 3-6 (2-4)

It's something to consider when making a selection.

Posted by: JumboJimbo | January 22, 2011 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Damn, at least Tyrod scored on Stanford..With a mighty pretty move, I might add..

Posted by: frak | January 22, 2011 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Jake Locker, who may be more polished than Newton, basically rolled over when Wash faced the toughest part of its sched:

Sat, Oct 23 @#18 Arizona L 44-14 3-4 (2-2)
Sat, Oct 30 vs#13 Stanford L 41-0 3-5 (2-3)
Sat, Nov 6 @#1 Oregon L 53-16 3-6 (2-4)

It's something to consider when making a selection.

Posted by: JumboJimbo | January 22, 2011 5:39 PM | Report abuse

That's one way to look at it. Two things.

1. I memory serves me correct, those three games were games that Locker plaed injured. He had an injury to his legs (I believe), which limited his mobility (his strength).

2. You could also look at the fact that after that stretch, the Locker led his team to 3 (or 4) straight victories when the team needed it to become bowl eligible. He also led the team to a bowl victory over the Huskers avenging a earlier beat down.

I say this because if you're looking for an edge in the intagible department between Locker and Newton, Locker should get the mark given Newton's "character" concerns.

Posted by: TWISI | January 22, 2011 6:06 PM | Report abuse

70 JC Brignone C Mississippi State


This dude is kickin' a** and takin' names..

Posted by: frak | January 22, 2011 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Quality comparison of Shanahan draft history v. Cerrato.

http://www.hogshaven.com/2011/1/21/1949235/history-lesson-2-on-shanahan

You can't ignore the facts. Some fans just rant and rave for the purpose of ranting and raving.

"men lie, women lie, numbers don't" RIGHT?

Posted by: Copious1 | January 22, 2011 6:17 PM | Report abuse

F*** Locker...We Want Champions..(only at the Foot Locker)..

Posted by: frak | January 22, 2011 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Quality comparison of Shanahan draft history v. Cerrato.

http://www.hogshaven.com/2011/1/21/1949235/history-lesson-2-on-shanahan

You can't ignore the facts. Some fans just rant and rave for the purpose of ranting and raving.

"men lie, women lie, numbers don't" RIGHT?

Posted by: Copious1 | January 22, 2011 6:22 PM | Report abuse

1. I memory serves me correct, those three games were games that Locker plaed injured. He had an injury to his legs (I believe), which limited his mobility (his strength).

2. You could also look at the fact that after that stretch, the Locker led his team to 3 (or 4) straight victories when the team needed it to become bowl eligible. He also led the team to a bowl victory over the Huskers avenging a earlier beat down.

I say this because if you're looking for an edge in the intagible department between Locker and Newton, Locker should get the mark given Newton's "character" concerns.

Posted by: TWISI | January 22, 2011 6:06 PM |

So Locker is "injured" when playing the tough teams and getting rolled and "recovers" when playing the subsequent soft part of the sched to "win impressively" and get a bowl bid, which is hard to come by these days. And in the bowl victory he was like 5-16 with an ave of 3.5 ypc. Wash beat Neb in that bowl game because of its running game not because of him. As far as "character" goes I don't know what more you could ask for in that dept than being able to rally your team from a deficit to win tough games. It's something that didn't seem to be in the "character" profile of a "high character" dude like a prev Aub prod, Jason Campbell. And what about the "character" of such altar boy QBs as Brett, Joe Willie and Roeth who happen to have SB trophs on their mantles?

Posted by: JumboJimbo | January 22, 2011 6:35 PM | Report abuse

JumboJimbo I never said Locker wasn't injured in the gmes that he won down the stretch you did. If you saw the games down the stretch, Locker clearly was more mobile, but for me to say he wasn't injured wouldn't be truthful. I did see the bowll game, and if you remembered Locker helped to control the game with his mobility. Finally, if you can't see that there are concerning character issues with Newton's off the field decision, then you're in the tank for him. As for me, I want the best prospect to come to Washington. If at the end of the day, after all the leaked reports from the pre-draft process hits, Newton is the guy, great. If it is Locker that's great as well. My hunch is that Locker will be the pick if he's there at #10 and they decide to draft a qb.

Posted by: TWISI | January 22, 2011 6:53 PM | Report abuse

I'm liking Austin, Bair, the right tackle Jah(?), the and 'Cuse running back.

Austin's is the best NC d-lineman, Darceus is, and he's the one we should draft.

Mebbe the wr group seems non-descript because the quarterbacking is.

But in defense of the quarterbacking, it's hard to evaluate those guys in these games.

The secondary play is fairly decent, though.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 22, 2011 6:55 PM | Report abuse

frak

I forgot to mention that guy.

It seems this games features a lot of guys at the non-sexy positions.

And that's tells a lot about the kind of guys who are in the draft class.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 22, 2011 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: frak | January 22, 2011 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Devlin's arm strength reminds me of Grossman's, which is disappointing. How easily can srm strength be developed?

Posted by: TWISI | January 22, 2011 5:12 PM

From what the scouts say and from what I've seen the last two YRs it looks more than adequate. BUT I haven't been impressed with Devlin's arm strength today.

As far as developing arm strength: Bicep, triceps, and forearm exercises will help as well as working the lower body for a stronger base. But I wouldn't draft a guy with the hopes of developing his arm..

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2011 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Trattou..Helluva game...

Posted by: frak | January 22, 2011 7:07 PM | Report abuse

JumboJimbo I wanted to check if what I stated about Locker's injury was correct. I wasn't. He actually had a broken rib (see below). He hurt the rib in the game before Arizona. He actually missed the Oregon game. So I'd say playing two games at qb with a broken rib, so a bit of "toughness".

http://www.gohuskies.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/locker_jake01.html

2010: (Locker) Started 12 of 13 at quarterback, missing the Oregon game due to a broken rib, which was initially injured in the Oregon State game (game six)

Posted by: TWISI | January 22, 2011 7:08 PM | Report abuse

More impressed with the kid from Idaho and the DT from north carolina.

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | January 22, 2011 7:08 PM | Report abuse

JumboJimbo I never said Locker wasn't injured in the gmes that he won down the stretch you did. ...

Posted by: TWISI | January 22, 2011 6:53 PM |

Dude - do you know what it means to put something in quotes? It means not to be taken literally.

Posted by: JumboJimbo | January 22, 2011 7:08 PM | Report abuse

I was impressed by the RB from Syracuse.

Posted by: TWISI | January 22, 2011 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Need more specs on NT from NC to come to DC...

Posted by: frak | January 22, 2011 7:14 PM | Report abuse

But I wouldn't draft a guy with the hopes of developing his arm..

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2011 7:03 PM | Report abuse

I'm with you there.

Posted by: TWISI | January 22, 2011 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Can a QB with a strong arm improve his accuracy?

Posted by: Yammerstein | January 22, 2011 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Can a QB with a strong arm improve his accuracy?

Posted by: Yammerstein | January 22, 2011 7:20 PM |

It's certainly much easier for a QB with a strong arm to improve his accuracy than for an accurate QB to improve arm strength. Peyton Manning is an example of this. He always had a strong arm and through dilligent practice greatly improved his accuracy. He had Indy set up a special practice field for him where he could throw at moving targets.

Posted by: Yammerstein | January 22, 2011 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Need more specs on NT from NC to come to DC...

Posted by: frak | January 22, 2011 7:14 PM

It'd be pretty cool if the Skins could pick up both Quinn and Austin.

Posted by: TWISI | January 22, 2011 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Mayock doesn't like Austin in the 3-4 and says he's a better fit as a 3 tech in a 4-3.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2011 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Don't know how you can analyze linemen in a game like this. The cameras are on the skill players 80% of the time.

That said, I'd still take any of the highly rated OL or DL guys ahead of Locker. Life is too short for another long term project.

Posted by: NYPDee | January 22, 2011 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Also, TV announcer said he showed up , after a year out, well overweight , so Haynesworth desire issues rear de heinous...And, RE: Haynesworth- ain't there something in the Bible where Jesus says if you have a foul befouler amongst your Church, you must turn him OUT?? AS in, GIVE HIM THE BOOT??? Bruce Allen and Shanahan are asking for another year of "faith-less insubordination" if they keep Fat Al around..Get a whatever for him...

Posted by: frak | January 22, 2011 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Life is too short for another long term project.

Posted by: NYPDee | January 22, 2011 7:43 PM |

Is it long enough to suffer through another losing season with RG at the helm in order to get a shot at Luck or Barkley?

Posted by: Yammerstein | January 22, 2011 7:54 PM | Report abuse

"Life is too short for another long term project."

It blows Thee Minde how fast this mother flys...

Posted by: frak | January 22, 2011 7:55 PM | Report abuse

It blows Thee Minde how fast this mother flys...

Posted by: frak | January 22, 2011 7:55 PM |

If time flys like the wind then fruit flys like what?

Ans: Bananananas of course!

Posted by: Yammerstein | January 22, 2011 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Moch looked like a Landry clone lined up at safety...

Posted by: frak | January 22, 2011 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Is it long enough to suffer through another losing season with RG at the helm in order to get a shot at Luck or Barkley?

Posted by: Yammerstein

Yes is the answer. We could easily go 8-8 with Grossboy at the helm. And then go gangbusters after Luck in '12. I don't see any reason why we can't be competitive in '11 and playoff bound in '12. Luck won't be a long term project like Newton or Locker. He will pay immediate dividends, like Bradford. Of course, we may have to put a third mortgage on the farm to get him.

Posted by: NYPDee | January 22, 2011 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Banananananna-Rama!! OI!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH3WvI_S6-k

..'scuse me, sonny, I'm late for a bong hit..

Posted by: frak | January 22, 2011 8:15 PM | Report abuse

re: foul befouler

Thank you, Frak. With your permission I'd like to use this as my RI handle, after I am inevitably banned for inappropriate postings.

Posted by: NYPDee | January 22, 2011 8:27 PM | Report abuse

http://www.dodgeglobe.com/features/x1049176672/Massey-headed-to-Middle-Tennessee-State

A'yo

Checc out this article on da youngin I've been talkin bout: Bruce Massey Jr. Seneca Valley High

Posted by: Vicc | January 22, 2011 8:29 PM | Report abuse

I want the Skins to pick up more fat boys.

Like Hess1 says, "SAVE THE WHALES!"

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 22, 2011 8:29 PM | Report abuse

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings

List of draft prospects for everyone to discuss and argue about.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 22, 2011 8:39 PM | Report abuse

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings

List of draft prospects for everyone to discuss and argue about.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 22, 2011 8:39 PM

Aldon Smith is getting much love from these draft gurus. Dude has some injury history though. He's a player I'll track once he's in the NFL. Some team will get a good player at a bargain.

Posted by: TWISI | January 22, 2011 9:06 PM | Report abuse

I want the Skins to pick up more fat boys.

Like Hess1 says, "SAVE THE WHALES!"

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 22, 2011 8:29 PM

FAST fat zone blocking OLine boys...

Posted by: onanygivensunday | January 22, 2011 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Aldon Smith is getting much love from these draft gurus. Dude has some injury history though. He's a player I'll track once he's in the NFL. Some team will get a good player at a bargain.

Posted by: TWISI | January 22, 2011 9:06 PM

Most scouts project he'll be a top 15 pick.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 22, 2011 9:19 PM | Report abuse

It would be interesting to see how many sacks each of the remaining playoff teams have given up...

Yeah...O-line is crucial, but these Rodgers, Roethlisberger, Sanchez, and Cutler are playmakers...

I don't subscribe to this notion that you can win consistently in TODAY'S league with a good O-line and a meatball at QB. You need a QB and some weapons...and we have neither!

Posted by: rickyroge | January 22, 2011 10:21 PM | Report abuse

dizzle44

Pat Devlin, QB, Delaware.

I'm wanting to see this kid.

If he can make the throws, move, has command and accuracy, I say he's the 2nd rounder.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 22, 2011 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Didn't see the game. HOw did Devlin look? I saw him twice at DE. He looked to have accuracy, but not a super strong arm. And I didn't think he moved around in the pocket too well.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 22, 2011 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Is it possible there is a market for AH?

Haynesworth To Eagles Rumors Heating Up, Lions Also In Picture

The Detroit Lions have reportedly expressed a desire to bring in the outspoken defensive lineman. Ndamukong Suh went so far as to give Haynesworth a vote of confidence.

“I definitely like the group the way it is, but if we were able to have the opportunity and it was my decision to allow Albert Haynesworth to join our team, I would love for him to be able to join our group,” Suh told Pro Football Weekly (via The Detroit Free Press). “He’s been in this exact scheme, he’s been with Coach Schwartz, been with Gunther Cunningham, been with Kyle Vanden Bosch. … It would be a great addition.”

But it could be another NFC East team that comes in scoop up the former Tennessee Titans star. The Philadelphia Eagles are planning to go after defensive lineman this offseason and Haynesworth could be on their list.


http://www.footballnewsnow.com/2011/haynesworth-to-eagles-rumors-heating-up-lions-also-in-picture/

Posted by: kerzon417 | January 22, 2011 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Didn't see the game. HOw did Devlin look? I saw him twice at DE. He looked to have accuracy, but not a super strong arm. And I didn't think he moved around in the pocket too well.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 22, 2011 10:22 PM | Report abuse

To me Devlin didn't standout as one of the best QBs during the Shrine game. I think that honor belonged to the QB from Idaho (N. Enderle) and the kid from Navy threw a couple of throws where the ball looked very good with some power behind it.

I didnt see anything from Devlin.

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | January 23, 2011 12:01 AM | Report abuse

Is it possible there is a market for AH?


Haynesworth To Eagles Rumors Heating Up, Lions Also In Picture

Posted by: kerzon417 | January 22, 2011 11:37 PM | Report abuse

I'd be willing to bet that Shanny and co. would take a little less from Detroit just to snubb the frickin Beagles.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 12:14 AM | Report abuse

It would be interesting to see how many sacks each of the remaining playoff teams have given up...

Yeah...O-line is crucial, but these Rodgers, Roethlisberger, Sanchez, and Cutler are playmakers...

I don't subscribe to this notion that you can win consistently in TODAY'S league with a good O-line and a meatball at QB. You need a QB and some weapons...and we have neither!

Posted by: rickyroge | January 22, 2011 10:21 PM |

Ricky,

Pittsburgh 43
Green bay 38
Jets 28
Bears 56 most in the league

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 23, 2011 7:32 AM | Report abuse

If you look at the stats are o-line gave up 46 sacks but they did it in 605 passing attempts.

Where as a team like Baltimore who everyone says has a great o-line gave up 40 in only 491 attempts.

The bears gave up 56 in only 466 attempts.

Our o-line is not a bad as some of the cubicle GM's on here think it is, they got better at the end of the season and will be a lot better next year.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 23, 2011 7:37 AM | Report abuse

Flounder, complaining about the Oline is so ingrained in Skins fans thinking that they can't stop regardless of what they see on the field.

Posted by: kerzon417 | January 23, 2011 8:27 AM | Report abuse

Agreed Flounder...I think Shanahan may have found something in Lichtensteiger.

Posted by: rickyroge | January 23, 2011 8:29 AM | Report abuse

Just imagine the OL with Kalil at center.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 8:34 AM | Report abuse

Kerzon,

You hit it right on the nose. We have been conditioned through bad draft, bad trades and bad free agent acquisitions to think we must use all 7 picks on offensive and defensive lineman.

We as fans are hypocrites---we say we don't need to spend a first round pick on a QB but we balk at the idea of starting Rex Grossman.

Posted by: rickyroge | January 23, 2011 8:40 AM | Report abuse

I see that all the RI dreamers are present this morning. Let me remind you fools that Allen has shown you his blueprint to disaster (as if he could make things worse than they have been the last 20 years) by trading draft picks for older, washed-up players in McNabb and Brown. Keep the faith though, as the new look Redskins stay below sea level with the new morons in charge. Fools!

BTW, stats don't mean much when you suck ! Fools !

Posted by: Flip_Flop | January 23, 2011 8:50 AM | Report abuse

We as fans are hypocrites---we say we don't need to spend a first round pick on a QB but we balk at the idea of starting Rex Grossman.

Posted by: rickyroge | January 23, 2011 8:40 AM |

I see that all the RI dreamers are present this morning.

Posted by: Flip_Flop | January 23, 2011 8:50 AM |

Wicked pissah! We dream of starting Grossguy, sucking, drafting Andy Luck as our fran QB and living happily ever after!

Posted by: Yammerstein | January 23, 2011 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Flip_Flop...

Jamaal Brown is 25 jackazz!

Posted by: rickyroge | January 23, 2011 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Agreed Flounder...I think Shanahan may have found something in Lichtensteiger.

Posted by: rickyroge | January 23, 2011 8:29 AM |

Favre thought he had found something in Lickensterger but alas it was not to be.

Posted by: Yammerstein | January 23, 2011 9:14 AM | Report abuse


Flip_Flop...

Jamaal Brown is 25 jackazz!

Posted by: rickyroge | January 23, 2011 9:10 AM |

Excuse me fool, washed-up due to an injury that you're dreaming will heal properly. Is that better fool ?

Posted by: Flip_Flop | January 23, 2011 9:18 AM | Report abuse


Flip_Flop...

Jamaal Brown is 25 jackazz!

Posted by: rickyroge | January 23, 2011 9:10 AM |

Fool of all fools ! From wikipedia:

Date of birth: March 30, 1981 (age 29)

Posted by: Flip_Flop | January 23, 2011 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Flip_Flop | January 23, 2011 9:18 AM |

Unlike McNabb, he came cheap. He is young and he showed signs of improvement as the season wore on. If he works out diligently in the offseason he could be 90% recovered from his injury. Don't know if he is headed for FA.

Posted by: Yammerstein | January 23, 2011 9:28 AM | Report abuse

The Oline did get better as the season wound down. Those rookies and first year players gained experience and confidence a played better. The problem with the Oline as it stands is that it is playing with three interior guys whose most natural position is center. Throw in the fact that Casey is in the twilight of his career, and there's a legit concern to see improvement at the interior. The Skins need to find two starter on the inside, 3 starters if JB leaves.

Posted by: TWISI | January 23, 2011 9:51 AM | Report abuse

I see that all the RI dreamers are present this morning. Let me remind you fools that Allen has shown you his blueprint to disaster (as if he could make things worse than they have been the last 20 years) by trading draft picks for older, washed-up players in McNabb and Brown. Keep the faith though, as the new look Redskins stay below sea level with the new morons in charge. Fools!

BTW, stats don't mean much when you suck ! Fools !

Posted by: Flip_Flop | January 23, 2011 8:50 AM | Report abuse

BA did not follow the old Skins methodology of trading draft picks for over-the-hill pro bowlers, like VC used to do. For JBrown, he swapped a 3rd for a 5th and a 29 yr old pro bowler. This gave us the chance to evaluate JB all year, and determine if he was healthy enough to be our RT solution for 4-5 years. I believe we will resign him in the next month.

DMac was a chance taken to solve QB slot. Appears it didn't work out, but they took a shot. We'll be able to determine what it cost us as the off-season progresses.

I don't see those moves as trading for washed-up players.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 23, 2011 10:26 AM | Report abuse

BA did not follow the old Skins methodology of trading draft picks for over-the-hill pro bowlers, like VC used to do. For JBrown, he swapped a 3rd for a 5th and a 29 yr old pro bowler. This gave us the chance to evaluate JB all year, and determine if he was healthy enough to be our RT solution for 4-5 years. I believe we will resign him in the next month.

DMac was a chance taken to solve QB slot. Appears it didn't work out, but they took a shot. We'll be able to determine what it cost us as the off-season progresses.

I don't see those moves as trading for washed-up players.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 23, 2011 10:26 AM | Report abuse

I believe we re-sign him as well. Jammal Brown will be better next season and played well at RT.

Do we still need to draft OL? Yes.
At the interior positions, but pencil in Brown as the starting RT next year.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Good morning Cubics!

Our o-line is not a bad as some of the cubicle GM's on here think it is, they got better at the end of the season and will be a lot better next year.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 23, 2011 7:37 AM | Report abuse

I agree with Flounder that our offensive line is not that bad....maybe strengthen one link in the middle of that line either it be a Guard or Center position. The line demonstrated it was getting better towar the end of the season.

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | January 23, 2011 10:47 AM | Report abuse

I believe we re-sign him as well. Jammal Brown will be better next season and played well at RT.

Do we still need to draft OL? Yes.
At the interior positions, but pencil in Brown as the starting RT next year.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 10:34 AM | Report abuse

NOt too sure we will draft interior OL, unless we can trade back from #10. Why?

First of all, this draft class is strong in DL and LB, but not as strong at OL. 2 C/OG players (Pouncey and Wiesnewski) may go late 1st or in 2nd. I'd be happy with either, but not at #10. And we have so many other needs.

Second, FA has a lot of good C/OG's available. I believe we replace Casey with someone in FA. The question has been raised about getting 2 interior linemen. I personally feel that as the season progressed, our OL performed better. We should allow these players to work together, with only one addition.

Do we need to take OG's in rounds 5-7? We drafted Capers and Cook last year in 7th rd. They have one year in on PS. Obviously, we haven't seen them play since the preseason. So coaching staff will have to make that assessment. But I don't think it is an absolute given that we need to take OL later in the draft.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 23, 2011 11:04 AM | Report abuse

BA did not follow the old Skins methodology of trading draft picks for over-the-hill pro bowlers, like VC used to do. For JBrown, he swapped a 3rd for a 5th and a 29 yr old pro bowler. This gave us the chance to evaluate JB all year, and determine if he was healthy enough to be our RT solution for 4-5 years. I believe we will resign him in the next month.

DMac was a chance taken to solve QB slot. Appears it didn't work out, but they took a shot. We'll be able to determine what it cost us as the off-season progresses.

I don't see those moves as trading for washed-up players.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 23, 2011 10:26 AM | Report abuse

I believe Bruce Allen places a much higher value on draft picks than the previous regime. He mignt not have been successful with last years trade for D. McNabb, but he at least made the efford to minimize the cost in this year's draft to a 4th rounder. Jammal Brown needs to be resigned unless there is another free agent Tackle that can fill his position. By the way did any of you guys get a chance to read an article posted in SI this week about Dewight Freenys take on rookie tackles. He says it takes a long time for the tackles to adjust to the NFL level of play (approx. 8 years).

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | January 23, 2011 11:09 AM | Report abuse

I believe we re-sign him as well. Jammal Brown will be better next season and played well at RT.

Do we still need to draft OL? Yes.
At the interior positions, but pencil in Brown as the starting RT next year.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Sounds like there will be some interesting Tackle prospects available in the late 2nd-4th round areas. Unfortunately, we would need to trade somebody in order to get back into that area. I do like some of the possible free agents that others have mentioned on this post(i.e. Ryan Kalil, Ryan Harris, and Marshall Yanda, etc.).

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | January 23, 2011 11:32 AM | Report abuse

NOTE to REDSKNS scouts and the brain-trust:

Take a look at some CAA players. Yesterday MARTIN PARKER kicked azz and took names in the EAST-WEST game as he was named defensive player of the contest with two sacks and a forced fumble. He's a serious player on the d-line, but at 6-3 285, he's a tweener. Still, that might fill a position of need for the REDSKINS. UNIVERSITY of RICHMOND's ERIC McBRIDE is an excellent OLB also. There's a lot of local talant in the VIRGINIA-CAROLINA region gone lacking by the REDSKINS scouts and brain-trust. Most of these kids can be had for a song in FA after the draft. Hopefully, ALLEN's VIRGINIA connection will open some old eyes and bring in some new blood with the vision to see the JAMES FARRIOR's of the area, and appreciate them. A ton of local talent on NFL rosters just few on the REDSKINS outside VA. TECH. Only one small school represented, SALISBURY STATE - BYRON WESTBROOK.

JAMES MADISON - GARY CLARK
WILLIAM & MARY - ROBERT GREEN
DARREN SHARPER

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 23, 2011 11:37 AM | Report abuse

glar007- Old buddy...what about Greg Toler from St. Pauls that went in the 4th RD in 2009. He had 90 tackles 2 INTs and a pick.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 11:44 AM | Report abuse

They say there is more than one way to skin a cat...well, there is also more than one way to build a team, even the four remaining playoff teams.


http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-of-the-day-how-much-remaining-nfl-playoff-teams-depend-on-draft-2011-1?utm_source=alerts

Posted by: kerzon417 | January 23, 2011 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Take a look at some CAA players. Yesterday MARTIN PARKER kicked azz and took names in the EAST-WEST game as he was named defensive player of the contest with two sacks and a forced fumble. He's a serious player on the d-line, but at 6-3 285, he's a tweener. Still, that might fill a position of need for the REDSKINS. UNIVERSITY of RICHMOND's ERIC McBRIDE is an excellent OLB also. There's a lot of local talant in the VIRGINIA-CAROLINA region gone lacking by the REDSKINS scouts and brain-trust. Most of these kids can be had for a song in FA after the draft. Hopefully, ALLEN's VIRGINIA connection will open some old eyes and bring in some new blood with the vision to see the JAMES FARRIOR's of the area, and appreciate them. A ton of local talent on NFL rosters just few on the REDSKINS outside VA. TECH. Only one small school represented, SALISBURY STATE - BYRON WESTBROOK.

JAMES MADISON - GARY CLARK
WILLIAM & MARY - ROBERT GREEN
DARREN SHARPER

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 23, 2011 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Parker is rated to be drafted around the 5th round, where we have 3 picks. McBride is expected to be a UFA.

Parker is listed as weighing 300, so he probably has enough size to play 3-4 DE.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 23, 2011 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Today's Picks..

Bears
Steelers

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Today's Picks


Steelers
Packers

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 23, 2011 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Interesting scenerio coming up:

Carolina has the #1 Pick and they would stay to select Andrew Luck. With him out of the draft, a new coach in place and few draft picks (only 6) in place. The Panthers are probably looking to trade out of the #1 spot to gather more picks in this year's draft (first and second rounds at least).

Buffalo is currently picking #3 and the coaching staff seems to be happy with the play of Fitzpatrick. Blaine Gabbert will not get past the #3 Bills due to him being percieved as the next Jim Kelly (franchise QB).

The question is Cubic managers: What team would be willing to give up a first and second rounder in this years draft? Is it patriots (have 9 picks), San Francisco (have 10 picks), Titans or the Redskins?

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | January 23, 2011 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | January 23, 2011 12:01 PM

Are you suggesting we trade up? I could make a case for Luck but there is no chance we trade up with him going back to Stanford.

Carolina is stuck with the pick.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Carolina is stuck with the pick.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 12:15 PM

With a rookie salary cap likely to be in place I'd say that "stuck with the pick" isn't a bad thing at all. They get to pick the best player in the draft (whoever they think that is) and the cost won't be prohibitive. The flip side is the cost (financially) won't be prohibitive for other teams to trade for that pick if they feel there is someone they absolutely have to have. Is there anyone like that in this draft? I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Parker is rated to be drafted around the 5th round, where we have 3 picks. McBride is expected to be a UFA.

Parker is listed as weighing 300, so he probably has enough size to play 3-4 DE.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 23, 2011 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Then the 'SKINS would do well to take a serious look. I've seen him destroy the o-lines of the CAA for four years now. There's no 4-3 d-line position he hasn't played extensively with the possible exception of left defensive end. He has not played in space. Always had his hand in the dirt, and that might not be what the REDSKINS want at this point, but I think he can be a player somewhere.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 23, 2011 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 12:22 PM

No chance. There is no consensus #1 overall pick and you're likely to get the same player at 1 as you are at 10. No chance anyone ponies up a 1st, 2nd, and whatever for the #1 overall pick.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 12:28 PM | Report abuse

No chance. There is no consensus #1 overall pick and you're likely to get the same player at 1 as you are at 10. No chance anyone ponies up a 1st, 2nd, and whatever for the #1 overall pick.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 12:28 PM |

I would agree that it is highly unlikely but let's not forget that there are still Al Davis's out there that do crazy sh!t from time to time. I never say never with the NFL.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 12:33 PM | Report abuse


I would agree that it is highly unlikely but let's not forget that there are still Al Davis's out there that do crazy sh!t from time to time. I never say never with the NFL.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 12:33 PM |
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list too include jerry jones and washington's own, daniel snyder

trade down for more picks and,

SAVE THE WHALES !

Posted by: hessone | January 23, 2011 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Let's see those picks for today's games. Flound and I can't be the only guys watching foosball today?

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Bears and Jets and I'll tkae my 3.5 on each

Posted by: dcsween | January 23, 2011 12:44 PM | Report abuse

glar007- Old buddy...what about Greg Toler from St. Pauls that went in the 4th RD in 2009. He had 90 tackles 2 INTs and a pick.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, he's a good one. But at least I know the REDSKINS scouts weren't responsible for taking KEVIN BARNES instead. That was the "brain" trust of CERRATO and SNYDER.

I also found out that CECIL NEWTON jr., the center from TENNESSEE STATE that I wanted the 'SKINS to pick in FA in '09 is the older brother of CAM NEWTON. Not sure he's in the NFL at this point though. He went to JAX along with TERRELL WHITHEAD from NORFOLK STATE.

HAMPTON U has a good d-tackle coming out this year also, KENDRICK ELLIS, 6-3 280, much like PARKER, but has not played against the same level of competition. Might be a good FA pick for a team.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 23, 2011 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Packers and Jets win today.

Posted by: kerzon417 | January 23, 2011 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | January 23, 2011 12:01 PM

Are you suggesting we trade up? I could make a case for Luck but there is no chance we trade up with him going back to Stanford.

Carolina is stuck with the pick.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 12:15 PM | Report abuse

What I'm saying is that Carolina wants additional picks in this upcoming draft and if there is a way they could pickup a second round pick in this years draft they would do it in a heart beat. The problem in that is the GM would have to be totally in love with a prospect, which is generally reserved for the likes of a S. Bradford or A. Luck type of candidates.


Posted by: flyinggoose1 | January 23, 2011 12:46 PM | Report abuse


Let's see those picks for today's games. Flound and I can't be the only guys watching foosball today?

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 12:41 PM |
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agree 44

bears
steelers

Posted by: hessone | January 23, 2011 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Whatever happens in FA, which I think will be OL for us, the Skins will go QB in the 1st round.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Packers and the Steelers will win today.

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | January 23, 2011 12:51 PM | Report abuse

great, hessone just put the hoodoo on my picks.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Jets and Bears

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 12:53 PM | Report abuse

When the Jets and Pack win today, will be the first time two 6th seeds meet in SB.

Posted by: kerzon417 | January 23, 2011 12:57 PM | Report abuse


great, hessone just put the hoodoo on my picks.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 12:52 PM |
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in today's nfl, we're all hoodoo guru's.

just got that gut feeling that da bear's are going to beat the pack. the steelers should take care of business at home, but who knows nowadays

Posted by: hessone | January 23, 2011 12:59 PM | Report abuse

list too include jerry jones and washington's own, daniel snyder

trade down for more picks and,

SAVE THE WHALES !

Posted by: hessone | January 23, 2011 12:41 PM |

BA and Shanny wouldn't let Dan do that. Al Davis and Jerruh Jones act as GM.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Got a feeling one of these big DLs will fall to us like Orakpo did..Unless Kyle is too impatient to wait for the ideal Luck, and keeps tugging at daddy's shirt..

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1632200

Now tell me Diesel-mole, that Dareus is a ten-wrench NT that won't fit into Haslett's scheme..

Posted by: frak | January 23, 2011 1:17 PM | Report abuse

The Packers are exciting with Rodgers-reminds me of young Favre..Packers over Bears..

Steelers defense at Heinz Field too much for Jets..Steelers to meet Packers in the SB-Boo Radleeey..

Posted by: frak | January 23, 2011 1:24 PM | Report abuse

frak- Dareus plays 3-4 DE in Bama's 3-4 D. He could play anywhere on the line in a 3-4 and would be a DT in a 4-3.

He's good and odds are that he'll be off the board by #10.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Steelers
Packers

Posted by: msrent | January 23, 2011 1:25 PM | Report abuse

I do believe Darius is a 3-4 NT, period...With a solid track rekker (knocked Colt out of championship game)..

Posted by: frak | January 23, 2011 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Packers and the Steelers will win today.

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | January 23, 2011 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Bears and Jets and I'll tkae my 3.5 on each

Posted by: dcsween | January 23, 2011 12:44 PM | Report abuse

I agree against the spread, but I like Pack and Stillers to win, not cover.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 23, 2011 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Flip_Flop...

Jamaal Brown is 25 jackazz!

Posted by: rickyroge | January 23, 2011 9:10 AM |

Fool of all fools ! From wikipedia:

Date of birth: March 30, 1981 (age 29)

Posted by: Flip_Flop | January 23, 2011 9:22 AM |

Jesus. Torched by a Troll! Although I will say that Brownie was a ripe old 24 yrs old when he was drafted by the Saints in 2005, which could lead one to believe he was younger than he was. Another Brownie who done a heck of a job in the Crescent City! How about them apples!

Posted by: BiggerVance | January 23, 2011 1:44 PM | Report abuse

It was Auburn's hard SEC defense that put the squelch on Oregon's high-powered offense..Whatever happens, we should try to get top SEC defenders in the draft..

Posted by: frak | January 23, 2011 1:46 PM | Report abuse

This gave us the chance to evaluate JB all year, and determine if he was healthy enough to be our RT solution for 4-5 years. I believe we will resign him in the next month.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 23, 2011 10:26 AM |

I don't know about Brown. It wouldn't surprise me if we signed him or we let him go. There were times last season when it looked like he was improving and also times when he looked like an EZ Pass toll station.

Posted by: BiggerVance | January 23, 2011 1:50 PM | Report abuse

It was Auburn's hard SEC defense that put the squelch on Oregon's high-powered offense..Whatever happens, we should try to get top SEC defenders in the draft..

Posted by: frak | January 23, 2011 1:46 PM |

Ore was def outweighed by Aub. I think the announcer dude said that Cam outweighed every dude on their DL! But it was their coach's incredibly lameo decisions on the goal-to-go plays that lost the game for the Ducker fu_ckers.

Posted by: BiggerVance | January 23, 2011 1:56 PM | Report abuse

I agree against the spread, but I like Pack and Stillers to win, not cover.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 23, 2011 1:41 PM |

Game time temp:

Chi: -5 (wind chillax)
Pitt: -10

Dude - they are going to cover like Darrelle Revis on Randy Moss! Nobody wants to get frost bit for Crissakes!

Posted by: BiggerVance | January 23, 2011 2:07 PM | Report abuse

It's going to be cold in Chicago, but not as cold as forecasted. It's 39 right now in Chicago. It's 19.5 (15 w/windchill)in Pittsburgh, should be around 10 by gametime. That one will be chilly.

Posted by: msrent | January 23, 2011 2:29 PM | Report abuse

It's going to be cold in Chicago, but not as cold as forecasted. It's 39 right now in Chicago. It's 19.5 (15 w/windchill)in Pittsburgh, should be around 10 by gametime. That one will be chilly.

Posted by: msrent | January 23, 2011 2:29 PM |

39? Hah! Like Old Man Corker is 39! See below:

Weather for Chicago, IL -
20°F
Current: Partly Cloudy
Wind: SE at 14 mph
Humidity: 32%

Posted by: BiggerVance | January 23, 2011 2:36 PM | Report abuse

http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=60290

This one says 39.9 now, guess it depends where you are.

Posted by: msrent | January 23, 2011 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Either one is ways from 5 below.

Posted by: msrent | January 23, 2011 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Awesome Natl Anthem.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 3:05 PM | Report abuse

I don't know about Brown. It wouldn't surprise me if we signed him or we let him go. There were times last season when it looked like he was improving and also times when he looked like an EZ Pass toll station.

Posted by: BiggerVance | January 23, 2011 1:50 PM | Report abuse

J. Brown might not getted signed by the skins if he thinks he is a left tackle and he wants to be pais as an left tackle. Hopefully, the skins can bring in a couple of free agent linemen.....Ryan harris and Marshal Yanda.

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | January 23, 2011 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Either one is ways from 5 below.

Posted by: msrent | January 23, 2011 2:55 PM |

Dude (or dudess as the case may be):

1. The Weather Channel says it is currently 20 in Chi-town, 8 adjusted for wc.

2. 39 is like a springtime temp for Chi-town. We're in the dead of winter for Crissakes.

3. I know it ain't -5 (wca) although it could be by the time the game is over. I was exaggerating to make a point for Mr. frediefritzthecat.

Posted by: BiggerVance | January 23, 2011 3:44 PM | Report abuse

J. Brown might not getted signed by the skins if he thinks he is a left tackle and he wants to be pais as an left tackle.

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | January 23, 2011 3:33 PM |

If that is the dude's thinking then he is going to have some splaining to do to GMs as to why his area of the OL looked at times like a jail break.

Posted by: BiggerVance | January 23, 2011 3:49 PM | Report abuse

It just shows how far down Snyderrato left the Skins that we would waste draft picks for what are essentially looking like rentals in McNabb and J. Brown..I don't know that we can wait for Luck to come out, without another dismally trouncing year at FedEx Stadium...And if we're forced to take QB in the first, we should make it the best, in Cam Newton...

Posted by: frak | January 23, 2011 3:50 PM | Report abuse

I don't know that we can wait for Luck to come out, without another dismally trouncing year at FedEx Stadium...

Posted by: frak | January 23, 2011 3:50 PM |

And even if it were a dismally trouncing yr the suckhard Panthers would prob have an even worse yr and welcome Luck with open arms as their fran savior and the poor bastid would have nowhere to hide, having used up all his eligibility.

Posted by: BiggerVance | January 23, 2011 4:01 PM | Report abuse

And if we're forced to take QB in the first, we should make it the best, in Cam Newton...

Posted by: frak | January 23, 2011 3:50 PM |

Take your particularly diseased brand of nutzo somewhere else d0ucher

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Take your particularly diseased brand of nutzo somewhere else d0ucher

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 4:02 PM |

Mr. frak seems to be on his meds of late, sounding coherent and rational (at least for him). You on the other hand seem to on your own brand of meds, scarfing hater pills by the box car.

Posted by: BiggerVance | January 23, 2011 4:07 PM | Report abuse

If Snyder is going to spend any money this off-season it should be used to buy the GB scouting department. Just keep throwing money at them until they sign.

Posted by: kerzon417 | January 23, 2011 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Take your particularly diseased brand of nutzo somewhere else d0ucher

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 4:02 PM |

Mr. frak seems to be on his meds of late, sounding coherent and rational (at least for him). You on the other hand seem to on your own brand of meds, scarfing hater pills by the box car.

Posted by: BiggerVance | January 23, 2011 4:07 PM |

This from one of the most foolish blowhards ever to grace IR trying to pretend that he's really not a troll.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 4:09 PM | Report abuse

If Snyder is going to spend any money this off-season it should be used to buy the GB scouting department. Just keep throwing money at them until they sign.

Posted by: kerzon417 | January 23, 2011 4:08 PM |

He might even want to bring on that old Red Mark Murphy, currently pres of the org, who drove Gibbs nuts with his agitprop back in the labor unrest day.

Posted by: BiggerVance | January 23, 2011 4:13 PM | Report abuse

**yawn*** Standard issue slime from the Reducer To The Lowest Common Decrapinator, scam..Keep Comin' Back, alky..

Posted by: frak | January 23, 2011 4:13 PM | Report abuse

This from one of the most foolish blowhards ever to grace IR ..

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 4:09 PM |

Hey dude - I ain't on IR yet but you never know when carpal tunnelling might hit, do you!

Posted by: BiggerVance | January 23, 2011 4:18 PM | Report abuse

**yawn*** Standard issue slime from the Reducer To The Lowest Common Decrapinator, scam..Keep Comin' Back, alky..

Posted by: frak | January 23, 2011 4:13 PM |

No problem you whipped bag of liberal puppies. How's that hot bag of nickels tasting? Love the new boots you've got on.

http://www.digital-photo.com.au/gallery/d/13765-3/Homeless-in-brand-new-Dr_-Martens-boots_MG_5907.jpg

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Hey dude - I ain't on IR yet but you never know when carpal tunnelling might hit, do you!

Posted by: BiggerVance | January 23, 2011 4:18 PM

Yep, that stuff's a b!tch. Eat those damn fingers right up.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 4:21 PM | Report abuse

If Snyder is going to spend any money this off-season it should be used to buy the GB scouting department. Just keep throwing money at them until they sign.

Posted by: kerzon417 | January 23, 2011 4:08 PM

Tramon Williams CB: Undrafted in 2006 out of La. Tech. Should have been in the pro bowl this YR.

Sam Shields CB: Undrafted in 2010 out of the U.

Two diamonds unearthed from the dregs of UFAs. Just two examples to go along with numerous others.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Multi-tasking re-watching the Texas Bowl. Phil Taylor is a good player NT prospect. He's a local kid too (from DC). Liuget (Ill) is also a legit 3-4 DE.

Posted by: TWISI | January 23, 2011 4:50 PM | Report abuse

If Snyder is going to spend any money this off-season it should be used to buy the GB scouting department. Just keep throwing money at them until they sign.

Posted by: kerzon417 | January 23, 2011 4:08 PM

Tramon Williams CB: Undrafted in 2006 out of La. Tech. Should have been in the pro bowl this YR.

Sam Shields CB: Undrafted in 2010 out of the U.

Two diamonds unearthed from the dregs of UFAs. Just two examples to go along with numerous others.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 4:41 PM |

We had a couple of undrafted guys do pretty well this year too. Grass is always greener and such...

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 4:54 PM | Report abuse

uh oh...here comes TODD COLLINS!!!!!!!!

Posted by: rickyroge | January 23, 2011 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Hey look! It's Cod Tollins! Ctler with a 31.8 QBR...ugly.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Toddball. Bring out the polar bears and the panda bears, we know how this ends.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | January 23, 2011 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Jay fed Collins to the Lions. This might make Collins retire.

Posted by: TWISI | January 23, 2011 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 4:54 PM

The point is "this YR". In the past Cerrato would have favored his picks and only nepotism would keep them on the roster. i.e. 2008 when all 10 picks made the squad....nobody goes 10 for 10 in the draft unless you're too proud to cut one of your selections.

TWISI- I like Taylor and he's a 2nd-3rd RD type of NT. I sure wish we had a 3rd this YR.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 5:01 PM | Report abuse

scamp, in this case, the grass is greener. 34% of their team were undrafted; 53% of the team are their own draft picks. Look how many starters they have on IR.

And they are still playing.

Posted by: kerzon417 | January 23, 2011 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Hey look! It's Cod Tollins! Ctler with a 31.8 QBR...ugly.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 4:56 PM

Funny thing is that TC is 0-3 with 0YDs and has a better QB rating than Cutler.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 5:05 PM | Report abuse

So I heard a pretty shaky rumor on another Skins blog about Davin Joseph (Tampa Bay gaurd) plans on playing for the Skins next year. What say you?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 5:06 PM | Report abuse

So Carson Palmer is going to ask the Bengals to trade him or he will retire. Wonder if we should swap McNabb and Haynesworth for kid Carson and see what a change of scenery can do for his performance.

Posted by: edvar | January 23, 2011 5:11 PM | Report abuse

scamp, in this case, the grass is greener. 34% of their team were undrafted; 53% of the team are their own draft picks. Look how many starters they have on IR.

And they are still playing.

Posted by: kerzon417 | January 23, 2011 5:02 PM |

Here's the thing, I read an article about how all 4 teams were built very differently so it really doesn't matter at all except for player evaluation purposes. So far the only one I see THIS administration has missed on is McScabb.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 5:11 PM | Report abuse

So I heard a pretty shaky rumor on another Skins blog about Davin Joseph (Tampa Bay gaurd) plans on playing for the Skins next year. What say you?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 5:06 PM

He's a solid player and would be an upgrade in the interior. I know he was injured last year, although I don't know how severe.

Posted by: TWISI | January 23, 2011 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Carson Palmer requests trade from Bengals.

Where does he go?

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 5:11 PM

He'll be cut. Nobody wants him and especially his contract.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Is Green Bay trying to loose this game?

Posted by: TWISI | January 23, 2011 5:14 PM | Report abuse

So I heard a pretty shaky rumor on another Skins blog about Davin Joseph (Tampa Bay gaurd) plans on playing for the Skins next year. What say you?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 5:06 PM

He's a solid player and would be an upgrade in the interior. I know he was injured last year, although I don't know how severe.

Posted by: TWISI | January 23, 2011 5:13 PM | Report abuse

I'm always for bringing in offensive linemen.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Anybody see the Cutler injury? Apparently a knee...he better be an acl tear or he'll be labeled a heartless quitter.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Urlacher is a madman today.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Anybody see the Cutler injury? Apparently a knee...he better be an acl tear or he'll be labeled a heartless quitter.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 5:18 PM

Add that to the whiny b!tch that he's already labeled and his title is getting long.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Surprised we didn't get a new post about Codd Tollins playing in the playoffs.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Nice drive by the Bears.

3rd string QB

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Phillip Rivers played in the 2008 AFC championship game with a torn ACL. Interested to see what happened to Cutler.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Surprised we didn't get a new post about Codd Tollins playing in the playoffs.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 5:30 PM | Report abuse

The one guy who played better for us than his next team.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 5:34 PM | Report abuse

We've got a game going

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Surprised we didn't get a new post about Codd Tollins playing in the playoffs.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 5:30 PM | Report abuse

The one guy who played better for us than his next team.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 5:34 PM

Remember all those idiots that wahted to keep ol' Codd and start him stating how much better he was than JC?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Bears 0-9 on 3rd down.

Very Redskinesque

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Surprised we didn't get a new post about Codd Tollins playing in the playoffs.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 5:30 PM | Report abuse

The one guy who played better for us than his next team.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 5:34 PM

Remember all those idiots that wahted to keep ol' Codd and start him stating how much better he was than JC?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 5:41 PM | Report abuse

I thought the Cult of Colt and KurtShanaman were more entertaining than the Todd Collins Band.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Surprised we didn't get a new post about Codd Tollins playing in the playoffs.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 5:30 PM | Report abuse

The one guy who played better for us than his next team.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 5:34 PM

Remember all those idiots that wahted to keep ol' Codd and start him stating how much better he was than JC?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 5:41 PM | Report abuse

I thought the Cult of Colt and KurtShanaman were more entertaining than the Todd Collins Band.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Rodgers hasn't played well in the second half.

Posted by: TWISI | January 23, 2011 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Now THAT sh!t was funny...BJ

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Rodgers hasn't played well in the second half.

Posted by: TWISI | January 23, 2011 5:49 PM

He's taken a few hits today and with two concussions already this YR he's only a few away from joining Aikman.

Raji was the 9th pick overall. I wonder if Dareus is this YR's version of him.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 5:55 PM | Report abuse

hey fat albert, maybe being a nose tackle ain't so bad after all, if you would have been a team player.

Just look at BJ Raji and Cullen Jenkins and wonder what could have been......a$$!

Posted by: Predator48 | January 23, 2011 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Cerrato out drafted Belichick from 2006 - 2008.Wow

http://www.hogshaven.com/2011/1/23/1951927/history-lesson-2-on-shanahan-cont

Posted by: Copious1 | January 23, 2011 5:59 PM | Report abuse

And it comes down to this

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Big time qb needs to close this game out....

Posted by: TWISI | January 23, 2011 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Big time qb needs to close this game out....

Posted by: TWISI

You'd think Rodger would want to step up and take the job, so far today, Bears have done a good job shutting him down

Posted by: Predator48 | January 23, 2011 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Cerrato out drafted Belichick from 2006 - 2008.Wow

http://www.hogshaven.com/2011/1/23/1951927/history-lesson-2-on-shanahan-cont

Posted by: Copious1 | January 23, 2011 5:59 PM

You make some solid contributions to HH but NO DOUBT Beli out did Vin in FA.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Cerrato out drafted Belichick from 2006 - 2008.Wow

http://www.hogshaven.com/2011/1/23/1951927/history-lesson-2-on-shanahan-cont

Posted by: Copious1 | January 23, 2011 5:59 PM

Pats draft a bunch of guys, knowing that the draft is a crap shoot. In the past, the Skins, with their lack of picks, would have had to be on point with most of their selections. Over time that strategy is a loser.

Posted by: TWISI | January 23, 2011 6:08 PM | Report abuse

The Bears made a game of it and whoever (Lovie or Martz) called that 3rd down WR run is a buffoon.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 6:16 PM | Report abuse

The Bears made a game of it and whoever (Lovie or Martz) called that 3rd down WR run is a buffoon.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Yeah that was a bad call.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 6:18 PM | Report abuse

that 3rd down WR run is a buffoon.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Martz ran that play in the Senior Bowl last year I believe on the goal line to win it. It wasn't a conservative call.

Posted by: TWISI | January 23, 2011 6:20 PM | Report abuse

f-goose

Packers and the Steelers will win today.

We're halfway there.

And today's question is:

Does Mark Sanchez rise to the occasion and make plays throwing against the Steelers defense?

(INSERT Troy Polamalu's grinning face.)

The Black N Gold is the league's best defense against the run, so the jets are going to have to have some serious professional quarterbacking for Sanchez's arm to beat them.

Will it happen?: we'll see.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 23, 2011 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Martz ran that play in the Senior Bowl last year I believe on the goal line to win it. It wasn't a conservative call.

Posted by: TWISI | January 23, 2011 6:20 PM

Senior bowl vs going to the super bowl? Terrible call. The pack had yet to cover the RB out of the backfield all day. Delayed release by Forte would have been a 1st.

Not that I really care at the end of the day.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Cerrato out drafted Belichick from 2006 - 2008.Wow

The Snyderatto focus on big-name individuals over the holistic dynamics of an entire team are at play here..Belichik could beat the Skins with scrubs ..

Posted by: frak | January 23, 2011 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Pats draft a bunch of guys, knowing that the draft is a crap shoot. In the past, the Skins, with their lack of picks, would have had to be on point with most of their selections. Over time that strategy is a loser.

Posted by: TWISI | January 23, 2011 6:08 PM

Pats only had 4 more picks over that period then the Skins here was the final tally.

2006 – 2008 Drafts Historically

Belichick: 5 out of 25 guys drafted that are legitimate NFL players

Ozzie: 12 out of 27 guys drafted that are legitimate NFL players

Cerrato: 4 out of 21 guys drafted that are legitimate NFL players

Shanahan: 12 out of 20 guys drafted that are legitimate NFL players


Still not sure why so many idiots on here think Shanny can't draft talent.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 23, 2011 6:41 PM | Report abuse

One of my biggest problems with that midget of an owner we have is guys like Mark Murphy.

He played his entire career with us from 77-84, SB Champ, pro bowl, and one of the 70 greatest Redskins and his post football career is with another team.

He's been the Packer's CEO/President since 2007. Not sure Snyder even knows who he is..

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 6:42 PM | Report abuse

f-goose

Packers and the Steelers will win today.

We're halfway there.

And today's question is:

Does Mark Sanchez rise to the occasion and make plays throwing against the Steelers defense?

(INSERT Troy Polamalu's grinning face.)

The Black N Gold is the league's best defense against the run, so the jets are going to have to have some serious professional quarterbacking for Sanchez's arm to beat them.

Will it happen?: we'll see.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 23, 2011 6:26 PM | Report abuse

With Troy Polamalu in the game the Steelers defense will be tough for the Jets. But, then the Steelers have to protect big Ben.

Too bad about Todd Collins, he just doesnt look good when he gets a chance to play like he did with the Skins. Must be a product of the Al Saunders system.

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | January 23, 2011 6:42 PM | Report abuse

This is random, but if I was a head coach, I would make it mandatory that all players and staff put their right hand on their heart during the National Anthem.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Still not sure why so many idiots on here think Shanny can't draft talent.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 23, 2011 6:41 PM |

People are often blinded by their hatred. Bruce Allens drafting scares me more than Shanny's. Good thing Shanny is going to be doing the drafting and BA will be doing the contract work.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan: 12 out of 20 guys drafted that are legitimate NFL players


Still not sure why so many idiots on here think Shanny can't draft talent.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 23, 2011 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Because they're idiots.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 6:47 PM | Report abuse

People are often blinded by their hatred. Bruce Allens drafting scares me more than Shanny's. Good thing Shanny is going to be doing the drafting and BA will be doing the contract work.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 6:46 PM | Report abuse

I do like BA's cap strategy.

The cheaper the better.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 6:51 PM | Report abuse

frak

Belichik could beat the Skins with scrubs ..

We play the AFC East this Fall, so we'll get a chance to see if this happens.

Get ready for Jets, Pats, Bills, Fins.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 23, 2011 6:52 PM | Report abuse

The jets' defense is designed to shutdown the pass.

I'd run, run, run, and playaction pass at it all day.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 23, 2011 6:54 PM | Report abuse


That's a sh!tty call.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 23, 2011 6:57 PM | Report abuse

We need a SEAN TAYLOR replacement at FS. Our defense has never been as good without him, and unless we get an ERIC BERRY-type it will never be as good again.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 23, 2011 6:57 PM | Report abuse

We play the AFC East this Fall, so we'll get a chance to see if this happens.

Get ready for Jets, Pats, Bills, Fins.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 23, 2011 6:52 PM | Report abuse

We made the playoffs the last time we played the AFC East. But also took a serious beating from the Pats

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Mark Schlereth in response to Culter...

As a guy how had 20 knee surgeries you'd have to drag me out on a stretcher to
Leave a championship game...Just sayin.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 6:59 PM | Report abuse

This is a long drive

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Did Sanchez just wipe his booger on Brunell's jacket?

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 23, 2011 7:01 PM | Report abuse

As a guy how had 20 knee surgeries you'd have to drag me out on a stretcher to
Leave a championship game...Just sayin.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Jay Cutler = LaDanian Tomlinson

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 7:02 PM | Report abuse

We need a SEAN TAYLOR replacement at FS.

Posted by: glawrence007 | January 23, 2011 6:57 PM

If you're patient Ole Buddy the next Sean Taylor will arrive in about 100 years.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 7:03 PM | Report abuse

I do like BA's cap strategy.

The cheaper the better.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 6:51 PM |

Well, we don't actually know his strategy yet. His strategy last year was clear, get as much wasted money out of the way and as many bloated contracts as possible off the books in an uncapped year in preperation for the next cap. His strategy before that seemed to be "Don't spend a lot because the owners don't want you to." We'll see how it develops here.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Defense played a key to both teams today. Helped Chicago stay in the game and helped Gren Bay win.

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | January 23, 2011 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Jay Cutler = Jeff George

Moe, I'll be looking for that home game date against the Patriots -

REMEMBER 52 -7 !!!

Posted by: frak | January 23, 2011 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Did Sanchez just wipe his booger on Brunell's jacket?

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 23, 2011 7:01 PM

I saw that too. Played it back on my DVR to make sure I wasn't mistaken.

Posted by: Alan4 | January 23, 2011 7:12 PM | Report abuse

The cheaper the better.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 6:51 PM |

Well, we don't actually know his strategy yet. His strategy last year was clear, get as much wasted money out of the way and as many bloated contracts as possible off the books in an uncapped year in preperation for the next cap. His strategy before that seemed to be "Don't spend a lot because the owners don't want you to." We'll see how it develops here.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Seems to me that he is not really into the front-loaded contracts. Pretty clever how he side-stepped the McNabb contract so what seemed huge on paper was actually small peanuts.

I like it.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Moe, I'll be looking for that home game date against the Patriots -

REMEMBER 52 -7 !!!

Posted by: frak | January 23, 2011 7:08 PM

I hope we stick it up their ass for that one.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 7:20 PM | Report abuse

REMEMBER 52 -7 !!!

Posted by: frak | January 23, 2011 7:08 PM

Wasn't that the game they pulled some BS trickeration like fake a spike and throw to Moss in the endzone when they were already up like 30 something points in the 4th?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 7:22 PM | Report abuse

You might be saying to yourself...we need the next Rashard Mendenhall, well the next RM is from the same college and his name is Mikel LeShoure. Could be in play in the 2nd RD.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Moe, I'll be looking for that home game date against the Patriots -

REMEMBER 52 -7 !!!

Posted by: frak | January 23, 2011 7:08 PM

I hope Orakpo knocks Tom Brady's Bieber haircut into a skullet.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 7:24 PM | Report abuse

You might be saying to yourself...we need the next Rashard Mendenhall, well the next RM is from the same college and his name is Mikel LeShoure. Could be in play in the 2nd RD.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 7:24 PM |

Not for this team he won't be.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 7:26 PM | Report abuse

You might be saying to yourself...we need the next Rashard Mendenhall, well the next RM is from the same college and his name is Mikel LeShoure. Could be in play in the 2nd RD.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 7:24 PM | Report abuse

If healthy Ryan Torain is better and prettier.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Early 2011 prediction: 10-6

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 7:34 PM | Report abuse

I'd say trade back later in the round for an extra pick then draft the best defensive player (line or OLB) and with the 2nd round pick do the same thing again. With the 3rd pick select the best tackle or offensive lineman on the board.

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | January 23, 2011 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Is that "10 degrees, 6 inches of snow"?

Posted by: daggar | January 23, 2011 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan: 12 out of 20 guys drafted that are legitimate NFL players


Still not sure why so many idiots on here think Shanny can't draft talent.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 23, 2011 6:41 PM

Interesting. I wonder how many of those success picks were on the defensive side of the ball? I know Shanny understands how to pick players to make his offense go. His defenses have been butt awful. As a Skin fan, lets hope lil Shanny and coach Has knows how to identify players in a similar fashion.

Posted by: TWISI | January 23, 2011 7:52 PM | Report abuse

As a Skin fan, lets hope lil Shanny and coach Has knows how to identify players in a similar fashion.

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Should read....
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As a Skin fan, lets hope lil Shanny and coach Has knows how to identify players in a similar fashion as big Shanny and his offensive selections.

Posted by: TWISI | January 23, 2011 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Early 2011 prediction: 10-6

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 7:34 PM | Report abuse

I would have to wait and see how they address their offensive line and defensive front seven this year before I say they are a 10 and 6 team.

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | January 23, 2011 8:03 PM | Report abuse

You might be saying to yourself...we need the next Rashard Mendenhall, well the next RM is from the same college and his name is Mikel LeShoure. Could be in play in the 2nd RD.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 7:24 PM | Report abuse

What we need is more like the Jordan Todman, Jacquizz Rogers of the world.

Posted by: TWISI | January 23, 2011 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Really Rex? 1 min left and he calls a pass play......

It's a TD because the ball ended up going backwards even if the arm is going forward.

Another TD for the Steelers. Rex is a joke.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 8:06 PM | Report abuse

And that's why ih8 drives the Optimus Bus!

Posted by: kerzon417 | January 23, 2011 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Interesting. I wonder how many of those success picks were on the defensive side of the ball? I know Shanny understands how to pick players to make his offense go. His defenses have been butt awful. As a Skin fan, lets hope lil Shanny and coach Has knows how to identify players in a similar fashion.

Posted by: TWISI | January 23, 2011 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Not a lot. But with Shanny we know he can put that offense together, and that is something we have been missing for a long time.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 8:07 PM | Report abuse

I've gotta say that I'm happy the biggest team full of jackasses are getting it handed to them.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Yeah...sign me up for a clone of the Steelers defense. Get it done.

Please tell me we aren't seeing two former Skins qb play today. Not good.

Posted by: TWISI | January 23, 2011 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Nothing like a day of watching great defense.....except from the team from New York.

And for those folks stuck on o-linemen, you see how a stellar defensive front-7 is the better thing to have.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 23, 2011 8:07 PM | Report abuse

What we need is more like the Jordan Todman, Jacquizz Rogers of the world.

Posted by: TWISI | January 23, 2011 8:05 PM

Or Devine, Locke, or Scott later in the draft. We need speed and a change of pace.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 8:10 PM | Report abuse

What we need is more like the Jordan Todman, Jacquizz Rogers of the world.

Posted by: TWISI | January 23, 2011 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Jacquizz Rogers will be the steal of the draft. Hopefully we take him in the 5th.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Bears and Jets and I'll tkae my 3.5 on each

Posted by: dcsween | January 23, 2011 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Well, it's good that they are not playing for the Skins.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 23, 2011 8:34 PM | Report abuse

The jets will make their run now.

This is when Mark Sanchez 'win' a few drives with excellent passing and leadership.

The jets are now dealing with the underside of a quarterback 'prodigy'--uncertainity in big moments.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 23, 2011 8:36 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait for the offseason to start. Some wheeling and dealing will be going on.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 8:48 PM | Report abuse

10 degrees, 6 inches of snow

The weather makes the running game the best way to go as no one what got sense feels like tackling in 10 degree weather---especially when the runner weighs 235 pounds and has speed.

The steelers should give up throwing the ball and run, run, run and run to get the jets D wore out.

Passing will give the jets the path to a comeback.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 23, 2011 8:51 PM | Report abuse

did Sanchez wipe a booger on a teammate?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIMbxPgdXbw

Yes.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 8:57 PM | Report abuse

iH8dallas

I can't wait for the offseason to start. Some wheeling and dealing will be going on.

There's going to be about 400 FA's, younger dudes at the end of their first deals.

This means shopping selectively for immediate starters makes sense as the volume of players means teams don't really have to overpay due to the options they have.

A record number of juniors have declared for the draft.

And so, a lot of senior 1st round talent will slip into lower rounds as you'd imagine the juniors are guys who are great players trying to take advantage of a possible rookie wage scale.

Skins fans should want more picks (in rounds 2-5, imo) from all the wheeling and dealing they want to see.


Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 23, 2011 9:00 PM | Report abuse

did Sanchez wipe a booger on a teammate?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIMbxPgdXbw

Yes.

Posted byesel44 | January 23, 2011 8:57 PM

They actually talked about it on PFT.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 9:01 PM | Report abuse

did Sanchez wipe a booger on a teammate?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIMbxPgdXbw

Yes.

You can clearly see Brunell ask him "Did you just wipe a...?"

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 9:03 PM | Report abuse

did Sanchez wipe a booger on a teammate?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIMbxPgdXbw

Yes.

You can clearly see Brunell ask him "Did you just wipe a...?"

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 9:03 PM | Report abuse
haha...Things get on YouTube quickly.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 9:06 PM | Report abuse

I think our 1st pick should be an outside linebacker who can cover and also create pressure on the QB. Wonder who that might be???

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | January 23, 2011 9:11 PM | Report abuse

I think our 1st pick should be an outside linebacker who can cover and also create pressure on the QB. Wonder who that might be???

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | January 23, 2011 9:11 PM |

I think our first pick should be BPA.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 9:15 PM | Report abuse

I think our 1st pick should be an outside linebacker who can cover and also create pressure on the QB. Wonder who that might be???

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | January 23, 2011 9:11 PM | Report abuse

why not? Can't really argue with just about any position with the first rd pick.

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 9:18 PM | Report abuse

btw...Ryan Clark is getting abused this game.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 9:20 PM | Report abuse

I'm embarrassed by the play calling from the Jets.

This is on their head coach. The play that lead to a TD before the half and the 3rd down and 4th call just now.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 9:24 PM | Report abuse

I noticed that to..is that a common theme among free safeties?

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | January 23, 2011 9:26 PM | Report abuse

This is on their head coach. The play that lead to a TD before the half and the 3rd down and 4th call just now.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 9:24 PM

those were really stupid calls. Luckily for the Jets Rapelisberger held onto the ball like girls hold onto their virginity after telling Ben no.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 9:27 PM | Report abuse

I'm embarrassed by the play calling from the Jets.

I understand.

But is there a way to attack the stillers D that's easy?

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 23, 2011 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Empower your young players early in the season, and watch them blossom during the year.

Jets need to win their division. Gotta play a home game or two.

Posted by: TWISI | January 23, 2011 9:51 PM | Report abuse

The fans of the Pittsburgh Steelers are very arrogant.

And they have every right to be.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 23, 2011 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Jets need to win their division. Gotta play a home game or two.

Posted by: TWISI | January 23, 2011 9:51 PM |

The Jets need to keep their mouths shut and stop painting targets on their backs. They'll keep getting exactly what they deserve...just close enough to taste it before it's yanked away. That karma is a b!tch.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 9:54 PM | Report abuse

But is there a way to attack the stillers D that's easy?

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 23, 2011 9:48 PM

No, but as I said you can't call for a pass with a min left in the 1st half and give up a TD and then the 3rd down call from the one and then the 4th that left them with ZERO points.

I'm just like you MOE watching the game from our couch BUT I would have called better plays than Brian Schottenheimer in those situations.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 10:31 PM | Report abuse

What cutler did today was....can't even say it. Feel so sorry for lovey. Ugh.
Cutler=jeff George.
What a dou c he! Anyone rember leftwitch playing literally on one leg in COLLEGE? Brady friggin played with a broken foot!!

Posted by: dealer1 | January 23, 2011 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Cutler came up small today and was the reason they lost. They improved when he left and anything short of an ACL and MCL tear should have Cutler run out of the league.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 10:41 PM | Report abuse

He was WALKING man. Only legitimate excuse is a concussion in that situation.

Posted by: dealer1 | January 23, 2011 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Props to Sanchez for being a man and putting the loss on his shoulders. Stock up for the abercrombie model of a QB.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 10:59 PM | Report abuse

Props to Sanchez for being a man and putting the loss on his shoulders. Stock up for the abercrombie model of a QB.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 10:59 PM |

Sorry dude, Abercrombie only wants white guys as models. Tom Brady is the only QB worthy of them. Sanchez will have to settle for Old Navy or The Gap.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 11:09 PM | Report abuse

scamp- not sure if you saw the post game. Sanchez put the loss on him while Cutler tapped out early in the 2nd half.

Brady wears UGGs and while he's not doubt a great QB...that's Cutler-esque.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 11:14 PM | Report abuse

scamp- not sure if you saw the post game. Sanchez put the loss on him while Cutler tapped out early in the 2nd half.

Brady wears UGGs and while he's not doubt a great QB...that's Cutler-esque.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 11:14 PM |

I was just taking a shot at Abercrombie homey.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 23, 2011 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Cutler can't stay in Chicago, McNabb can't stay in D.C. Shanny gets his QB, McNabb gets to go home. Its gonna happen.

Posted by: coparker5 | January 24, 2011 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 24, 2011 12:58 AM | Report abuse

Cutler can't stay in Chicago, McNabb can't stay in D.C. Shanny gets his QB, McNabb gets to go home. Its gonna happen.

Posted by: coparker5 | January 24, 2011 12:15 AM

See kids, this is what happens when you smoke crack.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 24, 2011 12:59 AM | Report abuse

Well, not to brag fellas (and I'm sure you know that line always begets some form of bragging), but this is now 2 straight years I've nailed the NFC Super Bowl representative in my preseason picks. Just call me Cash Money...

This is going to be a nice Super Bowl...not only do these two teams have a great national following, but it's the top 2 ranked defenses and two of the best QBs in the game when the play breaks down. I have a feeling this one is gonna be a game for the ages.

As for coparker...dude, let me get this straight: McNabb proves he needs about 2 years to learn a new offense and Cutler proves he can't win the big game...yet you think they're both tradeable assets that would be appealing to either team? Cocaine is a helluva drug...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 24, 2011 5:29 AM | Report abuse

Well, not to brag fellas (and I'm sure you know that line always begets some form of bragging), but this is now 2 straight years I've nailed the NFC Super Bowl representative in my preseason picks. Just call me Cash Money...

This is going to be a nice Super Bowl...not only do these two teams have a great national following, but it's the top 2 ranked defenses and two of the best QBs in the game when the play breaks down. I have a feeling this one is gonna be a game for the ages.

As for coparker...dude, let me get this straight: McNabb proves he needs about 2 years to learn a new offense and Cutler proves he can't win the big game...yet you think they're both tradeable assets that would be appealing to either team? Cocaine is a helluva drug...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 24, 2011 5:29 AM
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Okay, Amazing Karnac - pick the winner of the Superbowl. I am going with the Steelers.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 24, 2011 5:58 AM | Report abuse

RSH, a good prognosticator doesn't pick so soon...besides, I'm kinda torn right now since my head says Packers and my heart says Steelers (I've got a full blown man crush on Mike Tomlin...that dude is straight pimp). Once injuries and other storylines get laid out I'm sure I'll start heavily leaning one way or the other.

I will say that I find it curious that the Packers have already been installed as 3 point favorites...a 6 seed is a 3 point favorite over a 12-4 2nd seed. I'm no gambler, but I might want a piece of that action...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 24, 2011 6:14 AM | Report abuse

We've got so many needs and LB is probably the least of them but having just seem some tape of Vonn Miller I think I've changed my mind.

The guy gets real low to the ground coming round the corner. He looks a little slender for a 3-4 OLB but by God is he fast. I know a lot of it was just highlights but he looked like Clay Matthews on fast forward.

I love the idea of pairing him with Orakpo. It would give us such boost to our pass rush. He would also be useful in coverage and against running QBs. Now that we are facing Vick twice a year (if he can stay healthy) we could really do with some fast LBs.

Alexander is a great role player, but he is a little slow to start on the outside. I was wondering whether they might try him as a run stuffer at Mike. Perhaps he could be used to keep the interior linemen of Fletcher so he can do the sideline to sideline work, whilst 97 jams the middle.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | January 24, 2011 7:15 AM | Report abuse

Alexander is a great role player, but he is a little slow to start on the outside. I was wondering whether they might try him as a run stuffer at Mike. Perhaps he could be used to keep the interior linemen of Fletcher so he can do the sideline to sideline work, whilst 97 jams the middle.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | January 24, 2011 7:15 AM

No knock against Lo Alexander, but dude is best used as a special teamer with just a minor role in the defensive sets. One thing that was brought up by John Keim at the Examiner late in the season was that it appeared that LA wasn't nearly as effective down the stretch as he was early in the year, presumably because he was worn down physically from pulling double duty. I'd love to see him worked into certain packages because of his versatility (think Adalius Thomas early in his career as a Raven) but ultimately, I'd rather him stay primarily on special teams and get a legit playmaker to go ahead of him on the depth chart on defense.

David Harris of the Jets comes to mind...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 24, 2011 7:54 AM | Report abuse

David Harris of the Jets comes to mind...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 24, 2011 7:54 AM

Harris is an ILB. We need an upgrade via the draft at OLB and this is where the pass rush comes from in the 3-4. Quinn/Miller/Kerrigan/Ayers is a bigger need at #10 than a project at QB

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 24, 2011 8:05 AM | Report abuse

Early 2011 prediction: 10-6

Posted by: iH8dallas | January 23, 2011 7:34 PM | Report abuse

And which NFL team goes with that prediction? Remember, this is a Redskins blog!

Posted by: monk811 | January 24, 2011 8:22 AM | Report abuse

Cutler can't stay in Chicago,...

I'd say that Da Bears will be in the offensive line, wide receiver market come FA and April.

Their line is improving, but could still use some upgrades.

Mike Tice has done a great job rebuilding their line on the fly.

Their wideouts aren't guys who instill fear.

Hester is just not a complete receiver and Knox is just a speed guy.

The bears can run the ball, but lack weapons out on the edges.

In any event, Cutler will be in Chi-Town as the team invested heavily in adding him.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 24, 2011 8:22 AM | Report abuse

Diesel, WNL was talking about moving LA inside which is what led to the Harris statement...plus I seriously doubt Rocky is back next year, thus the need for an ILB. I love Fletch, but he's probably not going to play for more than another year or two so making a move on Harris would be just as much for the future as the present.

Fact of the matter is we've got a ton of needs and not enough ways to fill them in under 2 or 3 years. And that's if we hit on damn near every pick and every FA signing. It's gonna be a long while yet...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 24, 2011 8:23 AM | Report abuse

Wow, has anyone read the backlash Cutler is getting from other NFL players via twitter? Our own Anthony Armstrong referred to Cutler's "injury" as "knee gate"... MJD from the Jags likened Cutler to Urban Meyer "when the going gets tough...OUIT" pretty funny stuff.

I don't know how serious his injury was, but Phillip Rivers played a game on a torn ACL and Brady has been playing with a stress fracture in his foot for the majority of the season... again, not questioning Cutler's toughness but it seems like he abandoned his team, or quit if you will, on his team when they needed him the most.

Just sayin', he ws looking very LT'ish on the sidelines. Pouting and all sad faced either over the fact that he was injured that bad he couldn't return or was unhappy with the gameplan and how the Packers just seemed several steps ahead all game. Either way Cutler showed once again why most people think he's a bubbled over deuchebag.

And to think people were all stung up when the Redskins didn't land him. I'd take McNabb or Campbell verytime before I'd take Cutler. At least those guys would never quit -- even when gettting battered from playing behind a weak offensive line. Mentally, how long do you think Cutler would've held up. I'd say that he would've checked out by week 9.

***Steelers over the Packers in the bowl, but like brown said, it should be one for the ages. Overtime, maybe?

Posted by: RedDMV | January 24, 2011 8:26 AM | Report abuse

I was wondering whether they might try him as a run stuffer at Mike.


A real inside linebacker is preferred.

Nothing against Lo....

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 24, 2011 8:26 AM | Report abuse

no matter what the rest of his career looks like, no matter how many championships he might win, Cutler will NEVER, EVER live that down....he'd better hope his knee is completely blown out, even then....wow...they're called balls...

its minus 2 degrees, and we've got another snow storm on the horizon.....not a fan of winter...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 24, 2011 8:27 AM | Report abuse

We've got so many needs and LB is probably the least of them but having just seem some tape of Vonn Miller I think I've changed my mind.

The guy gets real low to the ground coming round the corner. He looks a little slender for a 3-4 OLB but by God is he fast. I know a lot of it was just highlights but he looked like Clay Matthews on fast forward.

I love the idea of pairing him with Orakpo. It would give us such boost to our pass rush. He would also be useful in coverage and against running QBs. Now that we are facing Vick twice a year (if he can stay healthy) we could really do with some fast LBs.

Alexander is a great role player, but he is a little slow to start on the outside. I was wondering whether they might try him as a run stuffer at Mike. Perhaps he could be used to keep the interior linemen of Fletcher so he can do the sideline to sideline work, whilst 97 jams the middle.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | January 24, 2011 7:15 AM | Report abuse

I agree are front 7 on defense will be improved if we can get someone opposite of Orakapo who can do two things well (1) apply pressure (2)get into coverage quickly.

But I would love to see Shan/Allen trade down for more picks.

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | January 24, 2011 8:27 AM | Report abuse

Green Bay Packers 24
Pittsburgh Steelers 20

Posted by: PlayAction | January 24, 2011 8:31 AM | Report abuse

Diesel, WNL was talking about moving LA inside which is what led to the Harris statement...plus I seriously doubt Rocky is back next year, thus the need for an ILB. I love Fletch, but he's probably not going to play for more than another year or two so making a move on Harris would be just as much for the future as the present.

Fact of the matter is we've got a ton of needs and not enough ways to fill them in under 2 or 3 years. And that's if we hit on damn near every pick and every FA signing. It's gonna be a long while yet...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 24, 2011 8:23 AM | Report abuse

I see Rocky gone and the need to at least get one quality OLB (hopefully through the draft). Our linebacking core would be Orakapo, Perry Riley, London Fletcher, and new Rookie.

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | January 24, 2011 8:34 AM | Report abuse

Totally agree on Cutler...dude totally pussied out. Also glad to see Todd Collins once again prove that A) he should have retired about 5 years ago and B) he can ONLY play in Al Saunders' system. Don't be shocked if dude is wearing silver and black before Easter...

Red, might be a bit early to start picking the SB...Polamalu is still gimpy and if anything has been proven over the last 5 years, it's that the Steelers are capable of losing to ANYBODY if they don't have #43 in the lineup. I can't pick them over the Packers unless and until I see that TP is healthy and ready to go...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 24, 2011 8:40 AM | Report abuse

Either way Cutler showed once again why most people think he's a bubbled over deuchebag.


Compare and contrast Cutler's wimpy, sheepfaced sideline image to that of Rodgers on the field with blood at his elbow and a split lip.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 24, 2011 8:40 AM | Report abuse

Rivers played with an ACL tear in the 2008 AFC Champ game. Unless Cutler tore his ACL and MCL then he'll never live this down.

Some insiders are saying that he was also bloated and it might have been that time of the month.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 24, 2011 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Did anybody else shake their head yesterday when Shannon Sharpe made such a big deal out of the "huge mistake" made by the Bears coaches in playing the 3rd stringer before the 4th quarter? Cutler had made himself unavailable and they gave Collins two series and he flopped like a fish on a dock. The kid actually seemed to give them their best chance of winning and they got him in there early enough to try. Sharpe was so worked up and animated about it but, even if the kid had gotten hurt and Collins was unavailable (which he didn't) did Lovie Smith make a mistake, or show some flexibility and actually breath some life into his offense?

Posted by: MColeman51 | January 24, 2011 8:49 AM | Report abuse

RE: Todd "TODDle House" Collins

"Don't be shocked if dude is wearing silver and black before Easter..."


Will silver & black be the color scheme at his retirement ceremony or funeral? Dude has been finished for sometime now.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 24, 2011 8:52 AM | Report abuse

We now have an answer.

Before the playoffs began, folks asked, "Are any of the young quarterbacks playing elite?"

And so, how have things washed out in a way the reveals the answer:

Sanchez--not ready, might not ever be

Cutler--is fearful, not fearless

Ryan--he's been great right up until it's time to be great in the playoffs

Flacco--on the verge, but not elite

Roethlisberger--you must be kidding, this dude brings his own meat and rings to the sausage party

Rodgers--even if he does not win a right next month, his arm, play, leadership, and willingness to play despite pain makes him more than elite...it makes him a winner.

Packers over Steelers late in the game for a gutsy win.

Rodgers game MVP.

Why?:'cuz he's an elite NFL quarterback, that's why.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 24, 2011 8:53 AM | Report abuse

With Aaron Rodgers on his way to the SB, I wonder what might have happened if he would have lasted just ONE MORE pick in the '05 draft...if the Redskins would have taken him over Campbell or if he could have helped turn things around for the better. My money is on him being dead sometime in the middle of the '09 season when the O-line was at its most atrocious...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 24, 2011 8:53 AM | Report abuse

My money is on him being dead sometime in the middle of the '09 season when the O-line was at its most atrocious...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 24, 2011 8:53 AM

We would have determined he sucked and traded him for a 7th round 2012 draft pick.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 24, 2011 8:58 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 24, 2011 8:53 AM

Campbell was the pick and the Skins (Gibbs) made that obvious when they made the trade to #25 weeks before the draft.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 24, 2011 9:00 AM | Report abuse

The kid actually seemed to give them their best chance of winning and they got him in there early enough to try. Sharpe was so worked up and animated about it but, even if the kid had gotten hurt and Collins was unavailable (which he didn't) did Lovie Smith make a mistake, or show some flexibility and actually breath some life into his offense?

Posted by: MColeman51 | January 24, 2011 8:49 AM


I actually talked about that with my brother...seemed to me out the 3 guys they put out there, Hanie played the best. Which is saying something considering he threw a pick 6 to a NT and threw the game-ending pick to seal the deal...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 24, 2011 9:00 AM | Report abuse


Well, not to brag fellas (and I'm sure you know that line always begets some form of bragging), but this is now 2 straight years I've nailed the NFC Super Bowl representative in my preseason picks. Just call me Cash Money...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 24, 2011 5:29 AM |
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hey cash money, what happened to the bengals making the SB ?


Posted by: hessone | January 24, 2011 9:00 AM | Report abuse

MCole, not to be an ass, but your first mistake was not either muting or flipping the channel when you heard Shannon Sharpe open his befuddled grill piece.

Between Sterling Sharpe's constant yelling and Shannon's word butchering and sentence slaughtering, if I'm at their family reunion within 20 minutes I'm sticking two freshly sharpened #2 china pencils in my ears.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 24, 2011 9:02 AM | Report abuse

With Aaron Rodgers on his way to the SB, I wonder what might have happened if he would have lasted just ONE MORE pick in the '05 draft...if the Redskins would have taken him over Campbell or if he could have helped turn things around for the better. My money is on him being dead sometime in the middle of the '09 season when the O-line was at its most atrocious...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 24, 2011 8:53 AM | Report abuse

If Gibbs and company wanted A. Rodgers I think they could have gotten him since the redskins traded back into the 1st round to grab J. Campbell. I just believe Joe Gibbs was smitten with Jason, believing he was going to be a redskin.

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | January 24, 2011 9:02 AM | Report abuse

hahaha, red thats the post of the year so far....those 2 clowns, are the reason the "mute" button was created....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 24, 2011 9:05 AM | Report abuse

RE: Todd "TODDle House" Collins

"Don't be shocked if dude is wearing silver and black before Easter..."


Will silver & black be the color scheme at his retirement ceremony or funeral? Dude has been finished for sometime now.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 24, 2011 8:52 AM
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not likely bc j.cam already "knows" the offense plus todd collins showed why he can't play anymore this season... maybe al saunders brings him in as the qb coach...

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | January 24, 2011 9:06 AM | Report abuse

Green Bay Packers 24
Pittsburgh Steelers 20

Posted by: PlayAction | January 24, 2011 8:31 AM

Oooops...a bit ahead of myself...

National Football Conference 24
American Football Conference 20

Posted by: PlayAction | January 24, 2011 9:07 AM | Report abuse

MColeman51

...Shannon Sharpe made such a big deal out of the "huge mistake" made by the Bears' coaches in playing the 3rd stringer before the 4th quarter?


Confession: I don't listen to the football pundits on CBS or FOX.

The chummy, buddy goofiness on those shows annoys.

FOX's football show is just that--a show.

And ESPN should just shutdown their complete NFL gameday operation as Ditka, Jackson, Johnson, Carter, and Berman all have no chemistry--or interesting insight.

The best game analysis comes later in the week on NFL Playbook when Baldinger, Thiesman, and Mayock use coaches tape to breakdown how the teams' various schemes worked out.

Marshall Faulk and Rod Woodson do great player commentary as well.

Plus, Shannon Sharpe is misnamed.

I mean, whenever he tries to explain anything, does he seem all that sharp?

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 24, 2011 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Lovie Smith: Jay, your knee seems like it's hurt.

Jay Cutler: No coach, it's good. I wanna get back out there and win this thing.

Lovie Smith: Jay, you have a 31 passer rating and this game is going into the tank...I said: YOUR KNEE IS HURT!

Posted by: p1funk | January 24, 2011 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Green Bay Packers 24
Pittsburgh Steelers 20

Posted by: PlayAction | January 24, 2011 8:31 AM | Report abuse

I thought that score was only for Redskins games?

Wow, no beep AGAIN! Somebody better go check the fryers at your local McDonalds and make sure he didn't fall in and crisp himself to death. That's the ultimate irony!

Posted by: monk811 | January 24, 2011 9:09 AM | Report abuse

Campbell was the pick and the Skins (Gibbs) made that obvious when they made the trade to #25 weeks before the draft.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 24, 2011 9:00 AM


Yeah, but I doubt they thought A-Rod would be on the board there either...he was a potential #1 overall pick and it was a total shock that he slid to #24. I'm just wondering if given the choice between Campbell and Rodgers, Gibbs and Co. would have made the same pick...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 24, 2011 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Jay Cutler had tears in his eyes when told other players ripped him
Posted by Michael David Smith on January 24, 2011, 8:45 AM EST

Several NFL players took to Twitter on Sunday to rip Bears quarterback Jay Cutler, questioning his toughness for leaving the NFC Championship Game with a knee injury.

A story written after the game by Jim Trotter of Sports Illustrated will do nothing to change that perception of Cutler.

Although Trotter’s portrayal of Cutler is sympathetic — the headline is “Don’t question Cutler’s toughness” — Trotter offers a detail that is sure to add fuel to the fire for those who believe Cutler just isn’t tough enough to be a great NFL player.

“It cut him so deeply that tears welled in his eyes at his locker room stall,” Trotter writes of Cutler’s response to being told other players had criticized him.

Trotter continues: “Cutler appeared genuinely hurt when asked about the comments, saying: ‘No comment on that.’ He then turned his back to reporters, fiddled with some things on a shelf and bit his lip as tears welled.”

Whether you’re a kid getting picked on in school or an NFL player, if people think you’re a wimp, there’s no better way to confirm that perception than to cry about it. Those players who ripped Cutler on Sunday aren’t going to change their minds today when they hear that he had tears in his eyes.

That’s not to say they’re right. For the record, Cutler has missed exactly one game since he first became a starter as a rookie in Denver, and that one game came when doctors wouldn’t clear him after suffering a concussion this season. One missed game in a career that has seen Cutler get sacked 138 times does not make him a wimp.

But Cutler has a long way to go to rebuild his reputation. And crying in his locker isn’t the way to do that.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 24, 2011 9:14 AM | Report abuse

see Rocky gone and the need to at least get one quality OLB (hopefully through the draft). Our linebacking core would be Orakapo, Perry Riley, London Fletcher, and new Rookie.

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | January 24, 2011 8:34 AM | Report abuse


Henson looked good in pre-season. I think he would have made the roster if he hadn't been injured in the final game. Hopefully, he can come back and have a full off-season.

I am not selling Alexander as a probable solution at ILB. I don't see him as a starter. I just think he might be a better fit there than outside. Plus he would give us a bigger guy in the middle.

Then again maybe he would surprise everyone and prove himself to be a quality starter. We need to find at least a couple of those on the cheap. We simply don't have enough picks to fill all our needs through the draft and unless the salary cap doesn't come back I can't see us having enough money to fill all our needs through FA.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | January 24, 2011 9:16 AM | Report abuse

...but I doubt they thought A-Rod would be on the board there either...

Folks forget that Alex Smith was the number 1 pick that year, not Rodgers.

Too, the knock on Rodgers was that he was a Ted Tedford 'system guy' who could have trouble translating his skills into an NFL format.

Rodgers' success point out that sometime you listen to your own team's scouting--not the ones aping for attention on television on draft day.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 24, 2011 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Confession: I don't listen to the football pundits on CBS or FOX.

The chummy, buddy goofiness on those shows annoys.


Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 24, 2011 9:07 AM | Report abuse


I think it's ridiculous the way they jam those panels.

THere's like 8 guys on those things and they all think that they have really insightful interesting things to say.

The worst was NBC last year. THey had Dan Patrick, Rodney Harrison and Tony Dungy anchoring the gig - fine.

But for some reason they went out of their way to work Keith Olbermann and Tiki Barber into their broadcast.

And then every now and then, they'd throw it over to Bob Costas and Jerome Bettis for some reason that I never could figure out.

And then Peter King would waltz onto the set and tell us that he just got a text from his BFF Norv Turner letting him know when the sleepover starts.

They overkilled "overkill".

It's like they were deliberately trying to assemble the nation's most annoying collection of sports personalities...but they wised up and dumped them this year.

Posted by: p1funk | January 24, 2011 9:18 AM | Report abuse

The best game analysis comes later in the week on NFL Playbook when Baldinger, Thiesman, and Mayock use coaches tape to breakdown how the teams' various schemes worked out.

Marshall Faulk and Rod Woodson do great player commentary as well.

Plus, Shannon Sharpe is misnamed.

I mean, whenever he tries to explain anything, does he seem all that sharp?

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 24, 2011 9:07 AM


100% agree...I haven't watched the Fox pregame in about 10 years and the CBS show isn't much better. ESPN is a joke in general, so no need to touch on that. Any NFL fan without NFL Network is REALLY missing out because nobody covers the NFL better than NFLN.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 24, 2011 9:19 AM | Report abuse

brownwood26

Any NFL fan without NFL Network is REALLY missing out because nobody covers the NFL better than NFLN.

So true.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 24, 2011 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Somebody better go check the fryers at your local McDonalds and make sure he didn't fall in and crisp himself to death.

Posted by: monk811 | January 24, 2011 9:09 AM

You may be on to something there. Move over Chicken McNuggets...try our new Crispy McBeeps! You'll be smarter and wittier than everyone else on your blog!

Posted by: PlayAction | January 24, 2011 9:27 AM | Report abuse

Then again maybe he would surprise everyone and prove himself to be a quality starter.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | January 24, 2011 9:16 AM

I am done selling LoAl short. He's a tremendous young man and a true professional who loves football. Nothing positive he does would surprise me. I like BW26 point that Teams may be his most important contribution and that shouldn't be triffled with...but we've seen this guy play well all over the line and at OLB. ILB may just be the ideal "middle place" between those two skill sets in which he can REALLY flourish. Like I say, I wouldn't bet against him.

Posted by: MColeman51 | January 24, 2011 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Cutler came up small today and was the reason they lost. They improved when he left and anything short of an ACL and MCL tear should have Cutler run out of the league.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 23, 2011 10:41 PM | Report abuse
Cosign, dies. And that's why I was opposed to trading for Cutler.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 24, 2011 9:31 AM | Report abuse

PFT continues to beat RI to the punch when it comes to breaking Redskins news...SMH...

Redskins add a pair of Pro Bowlers
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 24, 2011, 9:24 AM EST

It may be quicker at some point to list the players that haven’t been invited to the Pro Bowl.

Redskins defenders Brian Orakpo and London Fletcher were the latest two players to get the call on Monday. Fletcher replaces Chicago’s Brian Urlacher, who won’t play due to disinterest injury. Orakpo replaces Green Bay’s Clay Matthews.

Orakpo had 8.5 sacks. Fletcher makes the game for the second straight year. Along with DeAngelo Hall, the league’s 31st-ranked defense now has three members going to the league’s All Star game.

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 24, 2011 9:32 AM | Report abuse

When I saw this live, it game me an idea... maybe if McNabb/Grossman would have used some of their natural "stickum", our team wouldn't have had so many drops during the season!

Mark Brunell, booger magnet

Posted by Mike Florio on January 23, 2011, 7:56 PM EST

Though the Jets are in a 10-0 hole late in the first half of the AFC title game, quarterback Mark Sanchez was feeling no pressure during Pittsburgh’s first quarter touchdown drive.

CBS cameras captured images of Sanchez picking his nose and wiping the booger on the jacket of backup quarterback Mark Brunell.

It was a refreshing break from the more usual snot rockets that we often see during NFL games.

Posted by: Alan4 | January 24, 2011 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Superbowl Matchup

Rodgers versus Roethlysbggeryeygerger - Both are athletic QBs that can carry the team, extend plays and make something from nothing. Big Ben has 2 rings, though. Advantage Steelers.

Steelers Oline versus Packers Oline - Steelers continue to explore new depths of "injury-riddled". Pouncey on crutches is not a good thing. Advantage Green Bay.

Mendenhall versus Pack RBs -
Mendenhall was a stud last night running and catching the ball. Packers have a committee that gets the job done w/James Starks providing a fresh playoffs X-factor. Advantage Push.

Pack Receivers versus Steelers Receviers -
Pack go 4 deep w/speed and make plays. Steelers get the job done b/c Ben finds them in the right spots. At Jerryland it's gonna be a track meet and speed kills. Double Wallace deep. Advantage Pack.

Steelers front 7 versus Pack front 7 - The 2 best front sevens in the NFL, IMO. Advantage Push.

Steelers DBs versus Pack DBs - Pack has 2 ProBowlers (and Tramon Williams who could be there). Steelers secondary is too Polamalu-dependent. Advantage Pack.

Special Teams - Hmmm...let's see. Shaun Suisham and Antwaan Randle El versus Mason Crosby and whoever returns for Pack. Sorry, can't get 2009 out of my mind. Advantage Pack.


Packers over Steelers

24-20

(Suishy goes 2-4).


Posted by: p1funk | January 24, 2011 9:37 AM | Report abuse

CBS cameras captured images of Sanchez picking his nose and wiping the booger on the jacket of backup quarterback Mark Brunell.

Posted by: Alan4 | January 24, 2011 9:33 AM

I appreciated it because it ran the girlfriend away from the TV and I didn't have to go to the Food Network during commercials anymore.

Posted by: MColeman51 | January 24, 2011 9:37 AM | Report abuse

we've seen this guy play well all over the line and at OLB. ILB may just be the ideal "middle place" between those two skill sets in which he can REALLY flourish. Like I say, I wouldn't bet against him.

Posted by: MColeman51 | January 24, 2011 9:31 AM


MC, I don't think anyone is doubting that LA is CAPABLE of doing it, it's just a matter of whether it's wise to have him do it. We spend a lot of time up here killing the coaches (just about every regime in the Snyder Era, no less) for not putting players in the best position to succeed. LA might be able to play well at LB in spurts, but just not as a your every-down starter. Why rely on him playing a spot that MIGHT work well and compromise his role on ST (which is just as important, IMO)?

I'm all for working him into the mix, but I think we're better suited at a bare minimum getting a guy that can split time with him. At 27, you don't wanna wear the guy down completely before he turns 30...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 24, 2011 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Packers over Steelers

24-20

Posted by: p1funk | January 24, 2011 9:37 AM

That's a rediculous prediction.

Posted by: PlayAction | January 24, 2011 9:42 AM | Report abuse

The kid actually seemed to give them their best chance of winning and they got him in there early enough to try. Sharpe was so worked up and animated about it but, even if the kid had gotten hurt and Collins was unavailable (which he didn't) did Lovie Smith make a mistake, or show some flexibility and actually breath some life into his offense?

Posted by: MColeman51 | January 24, 2011 8:49 AM


I actually talked about that with my brother...seemed to me out the 3 guys they put out there, Hanie played the best. Which is saying something considering he threw a pick 6 to a NT and threw the game-ending pick to seal the deal...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 24, 2011 9:00 AM
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Hanie looked better because the Packers turned off the heat. They didn't blitz nearly as much as they blitzed Cutler. They instead dropped into zone defenses and got two interceptions for their trouble... I think it was a good defensive call.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 24, 2011 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Posted at 11:04 AM ET, 01/21/2011

Vinny Cerrato gets to the playoffs -- on the radio


This is the thread that will never die.

And it isn't as interesting as the disembodied, chopped up, exotic-dancer-former-redskin employee thread that was pulled down before the young woman could pull herself back together.

It, cockroaches, and Joan Rivers will survive Nuclear bombing.

And it's not truthful as I had my radio on the entire weekend, and didn't see Vinny Cerrato the whole time.

Can someone at the post get a new thread up?

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 24, 2011 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Cam might be an instant success. He transferred to Auburn and in one year, he led them to the championship, and won every award in the book. we should find some kinda drill where we hang bodies on him like Roethlisberger, to see if he remains erect under pressure (har-har-har)..

Or his father will get him in trouble with shady business deals in Vegas, and he'll be the laughing stock of the league..who's a cynic..

Posted by: frak | January 24, 2011 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 24, 2011 9:14 AM | Report abuse


IMO, the issue of Cutler's toughness is overshadowing the fact that he totally sucked in that game from the start.

He chose a bad time to pull a "Jay Cutler".

He left the game with a passer rating of 31, and I'm not totally convinced that the staff didn't just pull him from the game outright - that might at least explain the sourpuss sulking on the sideline.

You'd think an injured starting QB in a championship game would at least stand w/ his teammates/coaches on a pair of crutches, root the guys on, give pointers to the backup.

Of course Cutler graduated magna cum laude from the Jeff George School of Big-Armed QBs. "Where Leadership is Always Overrated."

Posted by: p1funk | January 24, 2011 9:45 AM | Report abuse

the league’s 31st-ranked defense now has three members going to the league’s All Star game.


Posted by: brownwood26 | January 24, 2011 9:32 AM | Report abuse

The next person I'd like to see make it is that Kareem Moore, man he had an outstanding year!

Posted by: monk811 | January 24, 2011 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 24, 2011 9:00 AM
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Hanie looked better because the Packers turned off the heat. They didn't blitz nearly as much as they blitzed Cutler. They instead dropped into zone defenses and got two interceptions for their trouble... I think it was a good defensive call.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | January 24, 2011 9:43 AM | Report abuse


It was a great defensive call.

Capers bet that Hanie wouldn't be able to figure out the zone.

The pressure of the game/situation was already on him, so he didn't have to add any with a blitz.

Posted by: p1funk | January 24, 2011 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Carson Palmer wants to be traded as per ESPN.

Someone alert Bruce Allen and tell him to keep Dan Snyder away from any sports media for the time being.

Posted by: p1funk | January 24, 2011 9:53 AM | Report abuse


You may be on to something there. Move over Chicken McNuggets...try our new Crispy McBeeps! You'll be smarter and wittier than everyone else on your blog!

Posted by: PlayAction | January 24, 2011 9:27 AM |
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with little to no sense of humor

Posted by: hessone | January 24, 2011 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Can someone at the post get a new thread up?

Posted by: gimmesummoe | January 24, 2011 9:44 AM


Should be one soon now that word broke that Orakpo and Fletcher are Pro-Bowl bound...especially now that Reid or whomever is taking the RI baton has something to cut and paste from PFT...

Pfunk, easy co-sign...the parallel between George and Cutler is astonishing:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=fleming/101028&sportCat=nfl

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 24, 2011 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Someone alert Bruce Allen and tell him to keep Dan Snyder away from any sports media for the time being.

Posted by: p1funk | January 24, 2011 9:53 AM


F the media...keep Danny away from the phones and the NFL directory...

Posted by: brownwood26 | January 24, 2011 10:01 AM | Report abuse


what's this

beeps peeps

Posted by: hessone | January 24, 2011 10:06 AM | Report abuse

So London Fletcher is headed to the probowl. Good for him.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | January 24, 2011 10:23 AM | Report abuse

If Gibbs and company wanted A. Rodgers I think they could have gotten him since the redskins traded back into the 1st round to grab J. Campbell. I just believe Joe Gibbs was smitten with Jason, believing he was going to be a redskin.

Posted by: flyinggoose1 | January 24, 2011 9:02 AM | Report abuse

You might be right. But my take on that draft was that JG liked both AR and JC. They just wanted to wait as long as possible to keep the cost down. When AR was drafted #24, they stepped up before anyone else could take JC.

Posted by: frediefritz | January 24, 2011 10:32 AM | Report abuse

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