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Finally, a real game, even if it's only preseason real. I figured we'd need a new thread until Jasno gets settled at the game, so we might as well start discussing what we hope to see now. Obviously, we'll all be paying close attention to JC and the offense and hoping to see, oh, 75 or so pages of the Saunders playbook...Okay, maybe 30....Anyhoo (as Jasno sez), give Mike Wise's column on Gibbs/Saunders a read. And, while you're at it, Jasno on Golsten/Griffin.
We'll be back with updates before kickoff.

By Cindy Boren  |  August 11, 2007; 1:12 PM ET
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Me! Me! Me!

Posted by: Albert! | August 11, 2007 1:25 PM | Report abuse

A lot of haters seem to think Jasno "hates" the Skins. Well, just because he doesn't have that stupid homer view that a paid hack like Larry has. Doesn't mean anything.

Its this simple.

It makes your job easier and "better" when the team is doing well.

So, while people are crying in their cornflakes over the Smoot article. They're so quick to get a stiffy over the Golsten one. Both of which were good pieces of work.

Thanks Jason (and Cindy)

Posted by: AEE | August 11, 2007 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Here Here AEE....

I want a tough beat reporter to cover the team, gives us more info and we don't have to feel like its all one big marketing machine like team owned media....

Posted by: chris larry | August 11, 2007 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Just HAIL baby

Posted by: Cruzer | August 11, 2007 1:34 PM | Report abuse

I can't belive how excited i am over a pre-season game.. Think i might need to take up a new sport to watch like crickett or something

Posted by: Peter | August 11, 2007 1:38 PM | Report abuse

The Reaper and L2 in the game at the same time. At least two bone crushing hits works for me.

Posted by: jm220 | August 11, 2007 1:40 PM | Report abuse

My excitement for this game is tempered for two reasons...

1. Injuries frighten me

2. I cant watch here in NYC......sob, whine...

Posted by: chris larry | August 11, 2007 1:44 PM | Report abuse

This game isn't going to be in HD on ABC is it? Damn Cox cable bastards! NFL Network is not in HD on their cable.

Posted by: HD? | August 11, 2007 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Dude the game is on the NFL Network, you can watch in NYC.

Posted by: Chris Larry | August 11, 2007 1:46 PM | Report abuse

yeah i have to agree with you on the injuries chris; good news it sounds like samuals and portis will be back in the mix at the start of the season. Just crossing the fingures no one gets hurt in the preseason

Posted by: peter | August 11, 2007 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Looking forward to live blogging the game with the peeps. I feel like I'm in mid-season form. Been working out all off-season, doing some quick warmup stretches by posting long tirades on my own personal blog, and am watching my TiVo'ed copy of Super Bowl XXII.

Posted by: P Diddy | August 11, 2007 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Avoiding injuries will be #1.

Even though I think we'll show more than last season. I think that unlike Dallas on Thursday. We won't show that much. Why bother? Without Portis, Samuels and Lloyd. Its pointless to a lot more than work on the basics, keep Jason from being knocked around, and see what guys like Blades and Montgomery can bring to the table in 07.

Posted by: AEE | August 11, 2007 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Cyn City,

You said Jasno needs more help.

Your solution: Find the next Skins beat reporter reality show.

Posted by: calebt17 | August 11, 2007 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Please Don't post using my name.....

The NFL is not on NYC cable by the way fake Chris Larry...

Posted by: chris larry | August 11, 2007 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | August 11, 2007 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4th via Home Floor | August 11, 2007 2:17 PM | Report abuse

I'll be watching the DT's primarily. If Griff/Golst and SaL/Mont are healthy and improved, the defense will be back. With bodies off him, Fletcher can roam, and the outside LBs can make tackles. The safties will patrol the middle with brutality and hopefully the corners hold up.

Oh yeah, V. Young. Could be a problem.

On O I'll watch the left side to see how Wade does and how the Maryland rook holds up. I just hope to hell the Terp doesn't get Campbell killed in the process of learning his position. The REAL downside of losing Samuels for four weeks is it sets back O-line cohesion, which has to be re-established with the departure of Dockery.

Once the starters leave I'll be looking at Blades and Sarz at LB, and rooting hard for Doughty to make the squade at safety Based on JHasno's kind words, I'll be thinking good thoughts about Tucker, despite the fact he went to Princeton.

Be nice if that Palmer kid is for real, too.

Posted by: CORKCZAR | August 11, 2007 2:27 PM | Report abuse

I find I glean a lot more listening to Gibbs speak than reading him through the lens of an article. I noticed how much emphasis he placed on how dramatically the special teams have improved. How it has grown from 6 to 13 to whatever it is this year. He called teams the deepest and the part of the team he could rely on the most. It wasn't just lip service, he went out of his way. Of course he did admit they could have a kicker crisis if one went down.

What I read from that is that he is still very unsure about what the defense and offense will be like and he is worried about depth in those two areas. Yet, he is very encouraged by some of the new younger players who will be on teams.

IN spite of what many say here about him I think that this year he is giving every possible shot to younger players who can play on teams and work in the offensive and defensive units. He does not sound sold on his veterans. Well with the exception of James Thrash. But then Thrash is a special player. And if you think about it Thrash could end up starting at receiver this year.
When Boy Lloyd fails down again and Randle El doesn't produce as expected.

Posted by: periculum | August 11, 2007 3:17 PM | Report abuse

I'm looking for no injuries, no turnovers, and no big mistakes from the starters.

It's pre-season so I don't expect The Reaper or L2 to lay anyone down.

I'll keep my eye at what's happening in the trenches on both sides of the ball.

I'm hoping it will be broadcast down here in NC.

Posted by: Stumped | August 11, 2007 3:21 PM | Report abuse


You can see the Williams part by watching the video interviews on Maybe the Randel El too? I recommend them because you can glean a lot more sans editing.

Posted by: periculum | August 11, 2007 3:24 PM | Report abuse

My battery is about to die, but are you east coast or west?

Posted by: Stumped | August 11, 2007 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Your source for the vids was my next its

Posted by: Stumped | August 11, 2007 3:26 PM | Report abuse


It sounds like Gibbs is worried more about injuries than just about anything else as well. A lot of people play down the injuries they've had. He doesn't sound very happy about them. From my perspective it gives some of the younger guys a shot. They might play better. Perhaps its a shame that they decided not to keep Duckett around?

Finally, it will be interesing to watch how much Brunell gets to play. Remember Atlanta still isn't sure what they are going to do at quarterback. If Brunell looks healthy you might see a trade in the offing. Then you'd have Collins and Palmer. It might be worth a couple of decent picks next year.

Posted by: periculum | August 11, 2007 3:29 PM | Report abuse


west coast (MB central coast) land of Brunell.

Posted by: periculum | August 11, 2007 3:30 PM | Report abuse

I'm looking forward to seeing cohesiveness on the O-line with Wade now inserted next to Samuels errr....never mind.

I'm looking forward to seeing if Brandon Lloyd can show us anything on the errr....never mind.

I'm looking forward to seeing if Portis has shaken off errr....never mind.

I'm looking to see what kind of competition there will be in the kicking game between Suisham and errr...never mind.

Just kidding...lots to see tonight. There's the usual stuff: Play in the secondary, JC running the offense, schlubs on the O-line trying to keep JC from getting murdered.

Then there's stuff folks have not really mentioned: new linebacking unit making plays together, whether Randle El will return punts now that he's the No.2 receiver, will David Beckham be making an appearance with Tom and Dan, how many times "famedorthopedistDr.JamesAndrews" gets mentioned during the telecast.

Posted by: pfunk | August 11, 2007 3:31 PM | Report abuse

"whether Randle El will return punts now that he's the No.2 receiver,"

Probably end up being Thrash. How they let Thrash go to the Eagles ... well that in itself says a lot about previous coaching.

Posted by: periculum | August 11, 2007 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Jason still hasn't written anything to match the controversy created by David Justice's article. And that guy really is a HOMER!!!

We'll see if getting rid of Archuleta and Linday solves the real problems last year. I don't think it was Gibbs and Saunders at all.

Posted by: periculum | August 11, 2007 4:00 PM | Report abuse

On the O-line. Based on what folks said about last year ... that Wade probably played better than all the other starters ... if the coaches really feel that way then if the young guys step up and show. Like Heyer ... you just never know. But they have to really step it up starting in this game.

Posted by: periculum | August 11, 2007 4:02 PM | Report abuse

people seem to think the defense will be fine, but we need to see 1) fred smoot regain the form that landed him a huge deal with the vikes in first place 2) if rocky can fill the gaps without getting impatient 3) someone can fill in next to cornelius and stop the run 4) if greg williams aquired a pair this off-season and finally calls a blitz

Posted by: 2 out of 10 | August 11, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

"if greg williams aquired a pair this off-season and finally calls a blitz."

I think everyone in the league must know that is why he acquired "the pair". The big question is how he will mask it.

Posted by: periculum | August 11, 2007 4:31 PM | Report abuse


August 11, 2006 - The news in the real world revolves around the shenanigans of the Cincinnati Bengals and a kid named Maurice Clarett. A real world filled with criminally insane behavior and a complete disregard for human safety and society's sacred laws.

But the Washington Metro area is no different than the state of Ohio in this regard. No. We have Jasno. He races around in his little Volkswagen like a flaming bullet of death, and then, straight out of a scene from the trial of Judas Priest, blames it on music:

"The little dude in my IPOD was on fire this afternoon. During the haul out to The Park he got me going with "Subliminally" by Suicidal Tendencies, then the Clash's version of "Pressure Drop," and then "Run To The Hills" by Maiden. So I look at the speedometer and I'm doing 90 on the Dulles Toll Road ... The power of rock. It must be respected at all times."

Sure, Jasno. Go tell it to the judge.

Posted by: MV Dame | August 11, 2007 4:45 PM | Report abuse

NFL Network is HD on channel 94 on Direct TV.

Posted by: Andrew | August 11, 2007 5:26 PM | Report abuse

I upgraded my cable to get the NFL Network so I could watch the game-- HAIL!!!

Here's what I want to see:
1.) Mike "The Mack" Sellers lay some crucial blocks and perhaps run a short-yardage TD.

2.) LaRon, or even better-- The Reaper-- sack VY (I'll accept it being Kerry Collins).

3.) A punter loose his lunch after suffering a hint from the punter hunter himself.

4.) Soup throw 2 balls in the air, have them hit each other, then land in the arms of Santana Moss and Antwaan Randle El.

Posted by: TDawg | August 11, 2007 5:40 PM | Report abuse

5.) Me spell correctly.

Posted by: TDawg | August 11, 2007 5:41 PM | Report abuse

I didn't mean to put your name on there, I was doing it as a kind of re: to you. Sorry 'bout that my brutha.

Posted by: Ooops Fake Larry | August 11, 2007 6:11 PM | Report abuse

How great is this? We get to watch a little more golf, then go to football. Sure, it's preseason, but it's fubball.

Posted by: Cindy | August 11, 2007 6:46 PM | Report abuse

stephen ames has giant chicklets. go skins! no injuries!

Posted by: nah | August 11, 2007 6:58 PM | Report abuse

I am looking for Cooley & ESPY and Thrash to get involved in the passing game. I think Soupy likes bigger targets, and would not mind some additional carries for Mason. Hopefully Heyer ela VATES his game, woo noaw. Littl U2 Karoke b4 the game...

I'd like to see Palmer cause Sunders Pet Collins to get the boot or head to the practice Squad.

I am hopeful that the Cal player or the Georgetown player on the D-line make something happen.

Posted by: DTC | August 11, 2007 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Does anybody know when the skins first preseason game is?

Posted by: Skip | August 11, 2007 7:10 PM | Report abuse

No Vince Young.

According to

The Titans announced one hour prior to the preseason game that quarterback Vince Young would not play.

Said Titans head coach Jeff Fisher in a statement: "Vince Young will not play tonight after violating an unspecified team rule. He will be on the sidelines, will practice this week and play next weekend at New England. Kerry Collins will start the game."

Posted by: SCSkinsFan | August 11, 2007 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, the Young stuff is on a new post...move over!

Posted by: Cindy | August 11, 2007 7:16 PM | Report abuse

No problem my man, thanks for clarification....if only you were right about being able to watch NFL network on my cable....

Posted by: chris larry | August 11, 2007 7:27 PM | Report abuse

For you to have a job as a sports producer made me throw up

Posted by: john | August 12, 2007 1:18 AM | Report abuse

For you to have a job as a sports producer made me throw up

Posted by: john | August 12, 2007 1:18 AM | Report abuse

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