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Walt Harris - Ballin'

Well, as several players around here have noted, Walt is playing some ball for the 49ers. Yes, he had a horrible year hear, but several players and someone on the staff have said they believed Harris was still a player and could help here. The Redskins chose Kenny Wright over him ...

Anyway, Walt was named NFC defensive player of the month for November this morning. Good for him. I, too, thought he was probably done after last season, but he's a tremendous worker and a class guy who is very, very well respected in this locker room to this day.

I'll post more after practice.


By Jason La Canfora  |  December 7, 2006; 12:10 PM ET
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Of course he is. Our Front Office isn't very good at 2 things

1. Dealing with draft picks
2. Finding quality FA talent. It either overpay, or sign a bum. No where in the middle.

Hey, did you guys know its been 9 years a month since Dallas last won a single playoff game? Amazing.

Posted by: AEE | December 7, 2006 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Another former skin playing well elsewhere. Sure underscores Wilbon's article today. He was dead on.

Posted by: skinswest | December 7, 2006 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Wilbon's article was fantastic. It took most of what we've been saying here on the blog and articulated it very well. And Wilbon isn't even a Redskins fan!

Posted by: bandwagon blues | December 7, 2006 12:25 PM | Report abuse


Re-read what J-La wrote, SPECIFICALLY,

"I, too, thought he was probably done after last season"

No one saw Walt having a resurgence, ESPECIALLY in the manner that he is having.

They have their problems, don't get me wrong, but this one was not on them.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | December 7, 2006 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for shooting in long enough to poor salt on the open wound JLa.

Walt was flat out bad for us last year. Some people don't fit in systems. Maybe we gave up on him too soon but there was nothing about the guy that screamed Def. player of the month. I can't fault the staff for that.

Posted by: Skinz | December 7, 2006 12:29 PM | Report abuse


Couldn't agree with you more.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | December 7, 2006 12:30 PM | Report abuse

pour sorry.

Posted by: Skinz | December 7, 2006 12:31 PM | Report abuse

I agree with Skinz. You can't fault FO for that one.

Posted by: jm220 | December 7, 2006 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Greg(Boston) and Skinz,

You're both dead on. Walt Harris was beyond terrible last season. To not get rid of him would have been beyond terrible. That is one right move the 'skins have made. Anybody who says anything else is lying or knows nothing about Harris from last year.

Posted by: DE Skins Fan | December 7, 2006 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Wilbon's article was great. Too bad no one at Redskins Park will pay attention to it.

Posted by: DE Skins Fan | December 7, 2006 12:37 PM | Report abuse

It wasn't/isn't Jason's job to assess talent. He's taking that into account from a media member standpoint. Walt Harris may be having a freak year (in both senses of the word), someone people are getting paid a lot of money to make those calls. I think this does count against the redskins, you can't let Walt Harris go and possibly think Wright is going to fill in and do a better job. This goes back to Man Boobs thinking that his defense can make up for lacking talent. The question to him is "Walt Harris or some other guy...?" His answer: "Eh, whatever. So and so will do"
People are getting paid too much money to assess talent and see if someone is done or not. I really hate to think we're becoming the Chicago Blackhawkes of football.

Posted by: Dorf | December 7, 2006 12:37 PM | Report abuse

no joke....kenny wright is the worst corner i have ever seen play in the nfl, and i have been watching for a while.

Posted by: TM | December 7, 2006 12:41 PM | Report abuse


Kenny Wright is awful, agreed. I actually didn't know who is was when we signed him. I remember watching the first pre-season game and saying, "that #25 (I didn't know his name at the time) will be cut the next day." He was that bad and has stayed that bad. I couldn't believe he is on team. And yes, Williams thinks his system is better than the players. He's wrong, obviously. And while I agree with you overall, Harris was truly awful and not anyone who watched the 'skins last year wanted him to return. I can't blame the FO for doing what we all believed as well. True, they get paid to make these decisions, and man have they made some bad ones, but I just can't fault them for this one. Walt had to go. Unfortunately, the didn't properly evaluate Wright.

Posted by: DE Skins Fan | December 7, 2006 12:48 PM | Report abuse


What from last year did you specifcally see that gave indication that Walt would have such a strong year this year?

There wasn't anything. They brought in a guy, Kenny Wright, who was a starter for J-ville last year. Their thought process being that they're getting rid of a guy who can't get healthy, and didn't play well, and replacing him with a guy who started 16 games last year to be their nickel back.

Unless you can predict the future, there is no way to have seen that Harris would respond the way that he did. Not to mention that Wright was brought here to be the nickel back, however due to injury was forced into a starting role.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | December 7, 2006 12:49 PM | Report abuse


No one is faulting JLa's article or comment. I don't see anything wrong with what JLa said.

What we are saying is, Pierce was a mistake that I will fault the staff for. Walt Harris? No. He was horrible and didn't improve throughout the year to lead anyone to believe he was figuring out the system. Also, he's like 33, not exactly a young guy that you take on as a problem.

I'm more than happy to bash the Personel Decisions of the skins. But not on this one. You name one person media or otherwise who said "Skins released Harris today, I think it's a big mistake".

Fact is sometimes guys just fit in better with dif. teams for whatever reason. Maybe he really likes trollies or wine tastings and that fires him up for games.

Posted by: Skinz | December 7, 2006 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Brandon Lloyd had a pretty darn good season in SF last year as well. Maybe the Skins are just jinxed.

Posted by: Lisa | December 7, 2006 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Greg(Boston) and Skinz,

Dead on again.

Posted by: DE Skins Fan | December 7, 2006 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Or maybe he knew he had a horrible year last year and wanted to prove he still had something left. A change of scenery and system will do wonders for some people. Unfortunately, our scenery and system rarely helps out except on the way to the bank. Stubblefield, Wilkinson, Trotter, Jeff George, Deion, Alvin Harper, Archibingus, and the list goes on and on...

Posted by: Posse Redux | December 7, 2006 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Maybe he really likes trollies or wine tastings and that fires him up for games.

This one cracked me up (as in to crack a joke, not the Georgia corn-cracker meaning). Getting fired up by trollies... classic. Maybe he just changed to an all Rice-a-roni diet.

Posted by: Joe in Raleigh | December 7, 2006 1:05 PM | Report abuse

One thing you all seem to forget is that Walt Harris was #1 CB for Chicago Bears when they were 13-3. He counted as depth and yes he was old & didn't play well last year but having a #3 corner who was #1 is not too bad to have..

Kenny Wright is a journeyman..he can't play...We got him from Houston Texans(the worst team last year)..We tend to shop for players on bad teams..

Posted by: Jimmy M | December 7, 2006 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Mmmmmm... Rice-A-Roni... I could totally rock some Rice-A-Roni right now.

Posted by: Posse Redux | December 7, 2006 1:09 PM | Report abuse

"One thing you all seem to forget is that Walt Harris was #1 CB for Chicago Bears when they were 13-3. "

I could apply the same logic to Deion Sanders. I didn't want him back either.

Posted by: Skinz | December 7, 2006 1:12 PM | Report abuse

One things you guys left out of the equation re Walt Harris: several players who balled with him and someone on the staff said they believed Harris was still a player and could help here. I would trust that assessment over anything we as fans (many with untrained eyes) see from the sidelines. Somebody in San Fran saw it too. He wasn't so obviously bad that he was out of football. This can be pinned on the FO and the coaches.

Posted by: Learned Hand | December 7, 2006 1:19 PM | Report abuse


Couple of things.

We got Harris in 2004, from the Colts. He last played for the Bears in 2001. 2 years with the Colts. 2 years with the Redskins

We got Wright in 2006, from the Jaguars, who by the way, happen to make the playoffs.

I'm just peculiar about facts though.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | December 7, 2006 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Just because someone did well this year in San Fran doesn't mean they'd have done well in Washington. Maybe the system didn't favor him.

You can blaim the Skins for it if you want but to me it's faulty logic to assume he'd have had the same season here. Even if he would have, i'll say it again, tell me one person who said it was a mistake he was cut. Anyone.

Posted by: Skinz | December 7, 2006 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Hey there, wanted to point on thing out, too. Grilliams has a lot of say, but he's not the one handing out contracts and deciding on salary cap numbers. That's Danny and his people.

Louis Riddick played DB in the NFL and Louis and Vinny were in contact constantly with the agents for free agents DBs, and the organization - above Williams - decided they only wanted to give up so much for the nickel guy.

When it gets to depth and lower round draft picks, that's all football ops guys. Coaches can't scout and grade film on everyone, and Vinny and Louis had it down to Jamal Fletcher vs. Kenny Wright.

Wright blinked first and took the vet. minimum just before Fletcher was to hop on a plane from San Diego and visit Redskins Park.

Neither is a player at this point, but that's who was identified to replace Walt, and that my friends, is on the Redskins. I understoof letting Walt go - although, again, players and staff tell me he was a key guy within the dynamics of that secondary - but to throw around millions like candy and essentially ignore the nickel guy, well, we see how that played out.

Posted by: Jason La Canfora | December 7, 2006 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Did you guys see that the cap is expected to take significant jumps in 07 and 08? Fuel up Redskin One!!!!! YACK!!!!!!!!!!!

One would only hope that we have learned our lesson and will take this additional cap room to re-sign our core guys like Cooley/Taylor, etc, eat big cap charges on guys like Arch and possibly Lloyd and others, then start building through the draft like other players do.

What do you guys think?

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | December 7, 2006 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Why not actually give Arch a chance to play, and play in a way that caters to his STRENGTHS, which is why he was brought in here in the first place, as opposed to just IGNORING him?

G-Will just looks the fool on that one. That is all on him.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | December 7, 2006 2:10 PM | Report abuse


I actually don't have a problem with that. His cap hits in years 1-3 are very, very low, so it actually makes sense if they can put him in a position to succeed.

But if they are just going to black ball him and/or we've just come to realization that he flat out sucks, I want them to just do it now and get it over with....

I can't believe we gave the richest contract in the history of safties to a guy who was basically benched during pre-season of his first year. It's just mind boggling.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | December 7, 2006 2:16 PM | Report abuse


Couldn't agree with you more. Give the guy a chance to earn his salary. Just a stupid move to sign the guy to that contract, then G-Wil TRUMPS the original stupid move, by benching/ignoring #40 in your program.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | December 7, 2006 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Harris was never healthy when he was here so it's hard to really see how much he could have helped the Skins.

It's was always a calf or something.....

Another Skins loss is someone elses gain.

- Ray

Posted by: Ray | December 7, 2006 3:03 PM | Report abuse

I wasn't saying anything against JLa (thanks for the email reply) I was just saying that Jason has his perspective on the situation but its not really his job so he's not going to have every angle/all the info.

I agree, Harris was horrible last year and you can't cry over the fact that he's killing this year(yeah, I can't predict the future either) but to let him go and pick up a dud like Wright, thats my issue.

I'm saying though, screw the individual performance... Wright isn't the only reason the Redksins defense is booty. How do you go from #3 a couple years ago to bottom of the league now? Thas'all.

Posted by: Dorf | December 7, 2006 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Are we seeing healthy Walt in SF vs nicked up Walt in DC? its always tricky to determine when a guy is old. Brunell is a perfect case. Healthy Brunell is good like against Jax and most of last year. Nicked up a bit and he sucks. And teams have to look at older players and make a guess as to whether they will hold up. Skins got it wrong on both Brunell and Harris. This offseason the biggest question will be Springs. Not an easy call. Is it?

Posted by: AL | December 7, 2006 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Walt did not have a "horrible" year last year. Who made the winning tackle against the Cowboys in Dallas? Walt Harris. He was way better last year than Kenny Wright has been this year.

Posted by: Mike | December 7, 2006 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Does any one know when LaVar's salary cap hit will come off the books?

Posted by: King Kong | December 7, 2006 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Mike, I'll give you one thing: WAlt was awesome against dallas last year in week 2. I was very encouraged after that game. Then I watched him play the rest of the year and saw what everyone else saw--a horrible corner that had to go. Wright has sucked this year, but I still don't lose any sleep over letting Walt go.

Posted by: WrongDog | December 8, 2006 8:21 AM | Report abuse

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