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Washington Out Indefinitely

From Jason Reid:

Strong-side linebacker Marcus Washington will be out indefinitely because of a high-ankle sprain.

"Just found out," said Washington, who sat out two games this season because of recurring hamstring problems. "I'm just going to listen to the trainers and see what they say. We just don't know yet."

Washington, who had a limited role in practice last week because of a shoulder injury, wore a boot today at Redskins Park. He also experienced hamstring problems last season.

"Stuff happens when you play this game," Washington said. "What matters is how you handle it."

By Cindy Boren  |  November 17, 2008; 11:30 AM ET
 
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Yawn. Nice knowing you Marcus.

Posted by: Rypien11 | November 17, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

oof... ah well... more bad news... *sigh*

Posted by: NateinthePDX | November 17, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Flounder21 - "Spizzle,

I didn't say that. I said that's what happened when we have been successful.

But with regards to your stats, I'll amend my statement to saying the "2nd half" is where Portis has been dominating. Portis has averaged 5.8 yards per carry in the 2nd half, with 5 TDs. In the 1st half, Portis has averaged 4.2 YPC with 2 TDs.

I'm not saying "don't hand the ball to Portis". I'm saying don't put the onus on Portis to set the tone in the 1st half. Let Campbell/Moss/Cooley/ARE set the tone in the 1st half, and let Portis finish the game strong in the 2nd half. That's what has been successful, especially through the first 5 weeks. IMO, since Philly, too much emphasis has been placed on Portis early in games. That's not what makes this offense go. Zorn needs to re-instill that confidence he put in Campbell after the Giants game in week 1. I know it's been difficult with the o-line, but remember that some of Campbell's best plays have been because he avoided free blitzers and made the defense pay.

Posted by: spizzle

Posted by: spizzle | November 17, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

time to cut him, was a great player, but obviously has lost at least one step if not 2. and the constant injuries just make it worse not being able to count on him week to week.

Posted by: kdog11 | November 17, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Put him on IR, HB gives us everything Marcus does and in coverage we can go with D.Hall instead of HB

Posted by: jayandcat | November 17, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

THAT IS AMAZING !! 3.9 peer pass
Posted by: cej75024 | November 17, 2008 11:08 AM

Thats because its untrue, he subtracted yards for a sack
Thats per attempt, not per pass. Also the numbers he gave are wrong,

Here is what NFL.com had

comp-22 att-34 comp %-64.7 Yds- 162

Sacks3 yds lost on sacks-26

JC also ran for 22 yards so I think you subtract the 26 from that for a -4 rush

That math ='s 4.7 yds per attempt, 7.4 per completion.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 17, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: alex35332 | November 17, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, that last post was in reference to this one:

Flounder21 - "Spizzle,

Your concept of Portis only runs in the fourth after the passing game"

Posted by: spizzle | November 17, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

11-5. Mark my words. 11-5 (OK, maybe 10-6).

No, the Redskins won't win the East. Yes, the Redskins will be a wildcard.

But there's no shame in that. The Giants are the best team in the league, period (sorry Tennessee fans). They ran all over the Ravens yesterday, made the Balmer D look like Dunbar High.

Aside from New York, which team in the NFC can say they're "better" than the Redskins? None, in my opinion. Outside of the New York Giants, ALL the other NFC playoff contenders (including the Skins) are about the same.

And then there's this: As disappointing as losing to Dallas is, it ain't anywhere near as bad as ending up in a TIE with the Bungles!

Stay medium.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 17, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

IR Washington he is not doing anything when he plays anyway.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 17, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

I was up here reppin' a healthy #55 as a havoc-wreaker all last week. What's the opposite of "patting yourself on the back?"... Self giblet-punch? Yeah, probably that.

Posted by: 4-12 | November 17, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

MW is a nice guy, and lets face it, the name Washington on the back of the jersey just looked cool. But age+hit=worn thin.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 17, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

I say, if MW is out maybe MR Taylor should move to that LB spot more and more (he probably would be better at that anyway than going against 300 lb LTs)

Posted by: alex35332 | November 17, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

I look forward to this team finally coming to grips with the fact that the guys they signed in 2004 are done. Griff hasn't come close to his '04 season, neither has Washington, Springs, or Daniels. It's time to cut the fat salaries and old limbs and move on to younger players. You lose experience, but if you built your team right it shouldn't matter. That's why the 2nd round of the '08 draft will haunt this team; even if those pass catchers become Pro-Bowlers they won't fill the holes this team has on the offensive and defensive lines and at LB. And with the Jets atop the AFC East, I guess we'll be going back to free agency...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 17, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

This team will drive a man to drink.

Lisa and JM220 said something on the previous thread about Zorn not trusting his rookies. Respectfully, I agree, but for a different reason. What is there to trust? Devin Thomas was on the field against the Steelers, ran the wrong route, and ended up causing a JC interception. He was on the field against the Cowboys and dropped a crucial pass on a slant route in the third quarter. Fred Davis has to unseat Cooley, who right now has fully subjugated his ego for the good of the team and stays in to block most of the time. And I don't even know if the equipment staff has bothered to wash Kelly's jersey all year.

In the end, though, it's not any one or three players. Football is a team game. And in the well-orchestrated NFL, a team can only function if all 11 players on the field perform consistently. Right now, you're seeing too many mistakes by one or two guys (a missed block here, a poorly run route there), and different guys each time.

Posted by: PDiddy | November 17, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Zorn being conservative is mainly due to the shoddy play of the OL. They can't run any plays that take more than 3 seconds to develop because you have Jon Jansen repeatedly getting pushed right into the pocket, Jay Ratliff bowling over Randy Thomas and Rabach. They just are not getting it done. Free agency and the draft need to net us some new players who can step in and start right away next year. Heyer must not be the answer if he isn't playing.

When in the hell will we have anything resembling a competent offense that can consistenly score 20 or more?

Posted by: JasonLaTempleton | November 17, 2008 11:43 AM

Posted by: JasonLaTempleton | November 17, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

the way this offense is operating we might be lucky to tie the Bengals, at least the eagles scored 13 on them.

Posted by: Moose33 | November 17, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Washington will lead the cut list for next season. Also appearing on that list - ARE, Jansen, Springs, and Carter. I almost stuck Samuels on that list, but I'm wait and see on him. Jason Taylor will retire, as will James Thrash. Maybe Kendall as well.

Posted by: kingrob76 | November 17, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

I can't wait to get some linemen drafted next spring only to be told repeatedly to wait a couple of seasons before judging them. Because we have a couple of seasons to wait, right?

...

Losing three out of four consecutive home games was bad, bad, bad.

Sure, hope springs eternal, but gee whiz, we could have used a win yesterday.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | November 17, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

In the offseason cut Washington and resign him as a back-up. Cut springs and try to resign him as a back up. We have to mix up the run and pass but last night they could not stop our rushing attack. we stopped running. I understand that Clinton and ladell were hurt, but keeping running with rock, shaun, and mike. we had this team on the ropes. and stop all this dink and dunk stuff, open the field up with deep post and corner routes and some medium routes in order to keep the safeties back.

Posted by: GreatOne1 | November 17, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

The only real mind-boggling draft pick is Fred Davis. All I keep hearing are excuses like "well, he has Chris Cooley playing in front of him, how much time do you expect him to get?"

What?? Did you not see that situation coming during the draft? Do you expect that situation to change anytime soon? Why would you even make the draft pick if that was the case? That's really the only pick that truly bothers me.

Posted by: spizzle | November 17, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

I say, if MW is out maybe MR Taylor should move to that LB spot more and more (he probably would be better at that anyway than going against 300 lb LTs)

Posted by: alex35332 | November 17, 2008 11:44 AM

Bad idea...he'd be a liability in coverage. The only time he played LB was in a 3-4, and OLBs are basically DEs in that defense. He's a pass rushing DE. That's what he is and what he does best. I still believe he'll be better once he's 100%.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 17, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Washington will lead the cut list for next season. Also appearing on that list - ARE, Jansen, Springs, and Carter. I almost stuck Samuels on that list, but I'm wait and see on him. Jason Taylor will retire, as will James Thrash. Maybe Kendall as well.

Posted by: kingrob76 | November 17, 2008 11:49 AM |

king,

I did almost this exact thing on Madden worked great for me.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 17, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

In today's NFL, you can't wait for your rookies. The days of giving them 3-5 years are over, and have been for a decade. All head coaches know that they are expendable, regardless of their pedigree or salary. If your guys can't get on the field and produce, you have to get rid of them and get guys who can. The whole blog argument about giving rookies time is specious. It sounds great when fans say it, but it's not how it works in the NFL anymore.

Again, don't misconstrue my opinion on rookies as placing blame on the 'Skins' performance. They performed poorly because they're all, rookies and vets alike, performing inconsistently.

Posted by: PDiddy | November 17, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

"Also appearing on that list - ARE, Jansen, Springs, and Carter."

----

You're going to cut 1 of the 2 productive WRs on this team, and the only consistently healthy defensive-lineman that draws double teams? Huh? Are you trying to make the team worse?

Posted by: spizzle | November 17, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

We need to trade a few of these guys rather than cut em, get some day 2 picks for em at least.

Posted by: alex35332 | November 17, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Really???

Vinny just said they couldn't keep McMullen because of his history of injuries (see:M Kelly) and because McMullen was older...???

McMullen is 28 !!! That's all !

Posted by: cej75024 | November 17, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

that's pretty cold Rypien11.

Posted by: NFeKPo | November 17, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

No need to bring back Springs. That POS won't ever play anyway. CP has heart, that dude doesn't. "No way I am missing a division game." Whatever bro. Our secondary isn't the problem anyway. We don't need him and his stealing of 8 million.

Posted by: JasonLaTempleton | November 17, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Diddy, I say again that Zorn does not trust the rookies (based on statements he has made) but I agree with you that they have not given him any reason to trust them. Thomas keeps dropping passes when he has the opportunity to make a big play (and causing penalties) and Kelly has been injured and unable to practice. Davis I'm not sure about - but we have Cooley (who is great) and Yoder who is experienced (and probably a better blocker) in front of him.

Posted by: Lisa_R | November 17, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

You know, it's only a matter of time until the AI in Madden becomes so incredibly good that it is a near 100% predictor of all NFL games. At that point, it will become self-aware, go back in time, and prevent Matt Millen from taking the Lions job, thus beginning a domino effect in which Jerry Jones becomes permanently paralyzed during a botched Botox session, Barry Switzer remains the head coach of the Cowboys, Steve Spurrier never quits, and Patrick Ramsey throws 5 touchdowns en route to a 'Skins victory last night and a near-certain Hall of Fame career.

This is why we must all quit our jobs and play Madden all day, every day.

Posted by: PDiddy | November 17, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

well of the guys on the Cut list, how many of them have a contract through next season?

Posted by: alex35332 | November 17, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Speaking of Madden,
Anyone know how to set up my PS2 with my new TV to get the resolution to be its best?

Posted by: alex35332 | November 17, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Sure, hope springs eternal, but gee whiz, we could have used a win yesterday.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | November 17, 2008 11:49 AM |

And the converse is that Springs hopes eternal...

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 17, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

It wouldnt be a bad idea to move JT to OLB to replace MW. Maybe they'll get some kind of production out of him that way.

Posted by: ga8085 | November 17, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Just a quick look at the release fees your moves would generate:
1) ARE = 6.7 MM dead cap, higher than his $6.1 MM cap figure
2) Jansen = $9.9 MM, vs. $4.6
3) Springs = $2.4 MM vs. $8.8
4) Carter = 6.8 MM vs. $6.5
5) Samuels = $9.4 MM vs. $9.3


So with the exception of Springs, these cuts would have huge cap hits - basically a cumulative of $35 MM of dead cap, which I don't think any team has ever approached. Obviously you can wait until after June 1 for some of these, but still it would be huge issue. In particular for Jansen, Samuels, and Carter.

The retirements you list on the other hand would have minimal cap impact.


|Washington will lead the cut list for next season. Also appearing on that list - ARE, Jansen, Springs, and Carter. I almost stuck Samuels on that list, but I'm wait and see on him. Jason Taylor will retire, as will James Thrash. Maybe Kendall as well.

Posted by: kingrob76 | N

Posted by: zornskins2 | November 17, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

This is why we must all quit our jobs and play Madden all day, every day.

Posted by: PDiddy | November 17, 2008 11:59 AM

Except you, of course, because you've got the Job from Hell with so many meetings that you can't see "Valkyrie" and you send youre staff to see it for you! How much do they pay for a job like that?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 17, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins are a team in transition and have older players at a number of key spots whose performances are not what they once were.

With 10 picks in the last draft, the Redskins could have started the process of selecting future replacements for a number of these players.

But in the end the lure of trying to contend in 2008 was too great for the front office not to take the short view, ie we need a tall receiver or two and we will be fine for this season, instead of looking at the age of the OL, DE and LB as well as CB and starting to bring in quality talent for 2009 and beyond.

With those 3 second round draft choices I would have spread the wealth around, by looking at positions such as DE where Daniels was 35 years old and SLB where Marcus Washington can never stay healthy. I also would have looked at offensive guard where Kendall at 35 and Thomas at 32 are in the twilight of their careers.

Drafting comes down to what you need AND who is available, but under very few circumstances have teams drafted for essentially the same position with 3 picks in the same round.

The failure of the team to consider DE in the draft or in free agency directly lead to what is now looking to be a bust trade for Jason Taylor, another 34 year old with more past than future. Parcells now has a #2 pick next year to choose a replacement for Taylor that will be in the NFL for the next 10 years. Meanwhile, that $8M salary slot for Taylor has produced ONE sack.

Where was Taylor last night, supposedly close to 100% after missing the Steelers game and then having the bye week?

Posted by: leopard09 | November 17, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Whoops forgot Washington. Not that bad - $2 MM release fee vs. $6.5 MM cap number for 09 (last year of his contract)

Posted by: zornskins2 | November 17, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of Madden,
Anyone know how to set up my PS2 with my new TV to get the resolution to be its best?


Posted by: alex35332

Yeah, buy a PS3 you old fart

Posted by: NFeKPo | November 17, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

It wouldn't be a bad idea to move Jason Taylor to WR as well. Everyone knows having a big WR on your team solves all of your red zone woes.

Posted by: ga8085 | November 17, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Washington will lead the cut list for next season. Also appearing on that list - ARE, Jansen, Springs, and Carter. I almost stuck Samuels on that list, but I'm wait and see on him. Jason Taylor will retire, as will James Thrash. Maybe Kendall as well.

Posted by: kingrob76 | November 17, 2008 11:49 AM |

king,

I did almost this exact thing on Madden worked great for me.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 17, 2008 11:53 AM

Where did you think I got my "trade for Boldin" idea? The only problem I have on offense is that I won't send all 11 guys to the Pro Bowl like I could on PS2!

Speaking of which...Alex, you need to just get an upgrade. If you're using a PS2 on an HDTV then there's nothing I'm aware of you can do to fix the picture. But if you get a PS3 or XBox (I have PS3, but wish I got XBox--way cheaper and you'll have to learn different controls from PS2 all over again anyway) it's the clearest picture you can get. But I'm warning you--if you're into franchise mode it sucks on the "next gen" systems.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 17, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Standby for the following posts this week:

** Torrance would have downed the ball.

** Can you believe how many Cowboy fans there were?

** Jansen is terrible...forget what I said earlier this year.

** Don't blame Rock.

Posted by: cej75024 | November 17, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

I'm just throwing it out there as it has really nothing to do with the various discussions.

But one sweet Campbell play was the QB draw. If you watch the play again, the call was a pass, but Jason read the defense and changed it to a QB draw. Even some of the receivers didn't get the change in the play as they ran routes.

Posted by: tedunni1 | November 17, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Why would anyone cut Samuels? The guy is playing with a bad knee. Ware has 11 sacks which leads the league. At least Samuel tried to play with the injury. He is a consistent pro-bowler. Let's draft a rookie and put him on Campbell's blind side. Bad move. The most pressure came right up the middle last night. I cut Springs, Washington, & Jansen. Cut Jansen after June 1st so the hit will not be that bad. We still don't know about the 2010 salary cap. If there is no cap, then the Redskins should be able to make some moves to get rid of the older players.

Find a couple of good young lineman in free agency and sign them. Use draft picks on lineman and linebackers.

See how Hall does this season and if he plays good then sign him long term. His value should be reasonable considering his play with the Raiders this year. We will see if he really wants to be a Redskins.

Posted by: cspwoods3 | November 17, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Does this team have a run in them. Two out of the last three season. This team won 5 straight and turned the tables. Do you see the skins doing anything like that. WE NEED TO DRAFT D-LINE MAN. It's been that way since darryl gardner left the team.

Posted by: FanFromFallsChurch | November 17, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

HATC

Posted by: rlomax67 | November 17, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

HATC

Posted by: rlomax67 | November 17, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: tymora | November 17, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

What's all this next year BS. We have come from much farther down then we are now with many more teams ahead of us. At this point we are in the playoffs! Wins and losses will tell the story of this year. At 5 and 6 we made the playoffs at 10 and 6 and last year at 5 and 7 we made it again at 9 and 7.

Stop all this crying about next year. The cowgirls are giddy that they are 6 and 4 and people on here are talking about the draft? Act like a squirrel and harvest your NUTS

Posted by: punchdaclock | November 17, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

They should put Washington and Springs on IR and go get some real football players. These guys cannot stay healthy, and their lack of dependability hurts the morale of the team. In the offseason, just say, "Adios". Malcolm Kelly can join them, too if he so much as whimpers about a boo-boo. Let them go. While we're house cleaning, might as well sweep Alexander out the door, too. The guy is a blunt instrument at this point in his career. Never fast even in his prime, these days he is downright sluglike in his approach to the line.

This team can play but it is time to get some younger guys in there. HB Blades is a ton more durable than Washington. It should be his job to lose. Now that the Skins have DeAngelo Hall, they really don't need to hope for the miracle of Shawn Springs getting on the field.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 17, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

They way he played this season I don't think too many people will miss him. Had nice career here, but won't be back next season....

Posted by: ENJOYA | November 17, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

I can't stand this any longer. Is Sean "potato chip " Springs EVER going to play again. Nobody is out this long with an injured calf. There must be something else going on that no one is saying. go ahead and put the guy on injured reserve and get someone to fill his roster spot. Also I am tired of people making excuses for JC. GET THIS PEOPLE, HE DOESN'T PUT POINTS ON THE BOARD. Last night he took us out of field goal range twice by holding the ball too long and taking sacks. I am sick of hearing how he is "in another system." Flacco and Ryan are in different systems and they seem to be doing all right, and they haven't got four years in the league. Bonehead play of the game: Rock Cartwright trying to fall on the ball at the goal line, all he had to do was pick it up. Second place for bonehead play: Kary Campbell rushing in to "help" and having the ball bounce off him into Cartwright. If you remember Dallas scored a touchdown on that series.. Skins need to get a win in the worst way. Hopefully, this week. Even though the defense made Barber an all pro last night bottom line is they only gave up 14 points. I'm not seeing a whole lot of offensive genius and execution here. You have the second leading rusher in the league and you can't score but one touchdown in two games? Goes back to the QB. Time for Collins to do his magic act again.

Posted by: rmcpks73 | November 17, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

I'm not as worried about the loss of Marcus Washington as I am about our suddenly inept offense. HB Blades has proven to be a capable back-up over the last year and a half, and I suspect he will be as good, if not better than Washington.

I agree that we need to get back to what was working against New Orleans, Arizona, Philidelphia, and Dallas. Our offense ATTACKED in those games. Since then, particularly in the last 2 games, we have let the game and the opposing team dictate the direction of our offense. We need to open it up and trust Jason Campbell as we did earlier in the season. He's had a couple of bad games, but in his defense he was playing against stellar competition (Steelers #1 D, Dallas #9 D).

We need to give Devin Thomas more chances in the passing game, and we need to take Thrash OUT. Thrash is nothing more than a run blocker playing split end. He comes in on most running plays, giving away the play most of the time. I think Thomas's potential as a big-play reciever is greater than Thrash's potential for ANYTHING. I love James Thrash, but he is NOT a #3 NFL reciever anymore. I'm hoping for ANYTHING out of Malcolm Kelly, but that remains to be seen.

Changes will be made in the off-season, for sure. However I don't think its time to give up on this season. How many people though we would be 6-4 with wins vs. NO (5-5), vs. ARI (7-3), at DAL (6-4), and at PHI (5-4-1) after Week 11.

A split with the defending division champion Cowboys is respectable. Losing to the Steelers on MNF and defending Super Bowl Champion Giants in New York to open the season are to be expected most seasons. The loss to the Rams was ugly and frankly shouldn't have happened. But the season is far from over, its time to regroup and get ready to head West.

Posted by: STisMyMainMan | November 17, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

it's not like he was contributing...who cares?

Posted by: griffmills | November 17, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

this guy's been coasting on his laurels for 2 seasons now --- get rid of him, already!

Posted by: bestmick1 | November 17, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Am I suffering from early stage myopia?
Where is Laron Landry? Watched the game live in London last night, and apart from a few after dead ball hits, he was nowhere?

SkinsUK

Posted by: SkinsUK | November 17, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Why do we seem to always have so many injuries to key players - more than any other team. And the same group of players always has recurring, long lasting injuries - Shawn Springs, Marcus Washington, and Ladell Betts. These guys aren't even up for 10 games a year, let alone 16. We need to cut these guys and get some people in here who will at least be available.

Posted by: agupta1 | November 17, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Much more concerned about our stagnate offense than Marcus Washington being out. Seriously, HB blades is good enough. JC needs better timing, Collins got it done with the same O line, because Collins has better timing... JC needs to find some tempo and get the ball out, he pauses too much. Sure, arguably he may not have time, but I know the O line in Denver is garbage, and Cutler only throws to Brandon Marshall (occasionally to Royal) but he puts up points. JC does not put up points...

Posted by: DCXNTX | November 18, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

When Marcus' contract is up...let him go. Great leader and player...but his body cant handle 16 games anymore. Blades needs game time experience...let him finish the season and get this time under his belt.

Posted by: jmail619 | November 18, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Every future opponent of the skins already know that if they put up 14 points on the board they will beat the skins. It's a sad but true fact that 14 points is all you need to beat this conservative team that seems to be coached by "Coach Zibbs"

Posted by: pennstate1 | November 18, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

It pisses me off when you "skins fans" talk crap on our team. Especially Washington who has played very well. Maybe he hasn't in the last few weeks but I think he is still our guy. And give them some credit. There are playing in a new system (at least offense)so get off their backs and stop talking sh!t

Posted by: REALskinsfan53 | November 19, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

but if HB plays well the rest of the year and Marcus still has injuries then maybe they should go with HB...

Posted by: REALskinsfan53 | November 19, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

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