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Redskins Insider appears to be up and running again...bear with us while we republish some old posts. That should allow you to read last night's content.

Here's what you've missed while we've been using the NFL Newsfeed as a lifeboat:

Jerry Gray may have a spot on Mike Shanahan's staff.

Gregg Williams' son may be a Shanahan hire...and Shanahan's son Kyle is packing now for the move to Washington.

Chris Cooley points to an absence of leadership on offense, only a little less bluntly than Clinton Portis did.

Thanks for your patience; we've missed your comments.

By Cindy Boren  |  January 6, 2010; 12:52 PM ET
 
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Hiring Shanahan is a huge step forward for this team. BUT .... its not what it could be. Putting Shanahan in the Exec VP role is a significant mistake.

For starters, having the same guy be both the top football exec and the head coach almost never works well, even with some of the best minds in the game ... including Shanahan himself.

Both jobs are full time jobs. Actually more than full time jobs. These jobs have a limited overlap. No one can do both and be nearly as effective as compared to two guys who properly divide responsibilities.

Further, it is helpful to have the coach independent of various items like contract negotiations. Shanahan, the Exec VP has to tell players what they are worth, then has to coach them. Those two messages are likely to conflict.

What I find most disturbing is that Shanahan doesn't need to be in charge to have all the influence he needs to be effective. Unlike Zorn, no major decision could be made without Shanahan's input -- and that input would carry substantial weight.

Finally, making Shanahan Exec VP makes an instant liar out of Bruce Allen and Dan Snyder (I know, you're shocked). Allen said he'd be in charge of football decisions and quite simply, he isn't. Not even close.

Bottom line, its hard to imagine Allen and Shanahan not being a huge improvement, but its not hard to see that this arrangement isn't the best it could be or should be.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 6, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Yeah that was in in Jerry Grays secret contract.... Keep your mouth shut and u keep some kind of job......

Posted by: cocodc1 | January 6, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Is it time for Cooley to move on. He is just about the only trade bait we have

Posted by: CheyenneWY | January 6, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Hey, we appear to be back in business. Should there be a hiccup or other digestive upset, scoot over to the NFL News Feed...we'll be rocking and rolling, ramming and jamming with all the news, so if you don't see anything here for a bit, that might mean Loseable Type (where is the polo mallet when I need it?) is busted again. Thanks for hanging in there with us. This place ain't the same without your comments.

Posted by: Cindy Boren | January 6, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

This place ain't the same without your comments.

Posted by: Cindy Boren | January 6, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Indeed, not.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | January 6, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Sing to American Pie

A long, long time ago...
I can still remember
How Redskins football used to make me smile.
And I knew if Shanny had a chance
That he could make those fans dance
And, maybe, they'd be happy for a while.

But January made me shiver
With every website couldn't deliver.
Bad news on the doorstep;
I couldn't take one more step.

I can't remember if I cried
When I read about dead website,
But something touched me deep inside
The day the blog died.

So bye-bye, redskin insider.
Drove my PC to the site
But the site was dry.
And them good old boys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
Singin', "this is the day that the blog died.
this is the day the blog died.

Did you write the Redskins playbook,
And do you have faith in Danny's look,
If the Bible tells you so?
Do you believe in west coast offense,
Can blitzes save your defense,
And can you teach me how to watch real slow?

Well, I know that Danny's in love with him
`cause I saw you smilin' in the gym.
You both kicked off your shoes.
Man, you ran some routes to show the moves.

I was a lonely teenage broncin' buck
With a burgandy carnation and a gold pickup truck,
But I knew I was out of luck
The day the blog died.

I started singin',
bye-bye, redskin insider.
Drove my PC to the site
But the site was dry.
Them good old boys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
Singin', "this is the day that the blog died.
this is the day the blog died.

And in the streets: the children screamed,
The lovers cried, and the poets dreamed.
But not a word was spoken;
The church bells all were broken.
And the three men I admire most:
Wilbon, Maske and Steinberg,
They caught the last train for the coast
The day the blog died.


I started singin',
bye-bye, redskin insider.
Drove my PC to the site
But the site was dry.
Them good old boys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
Singin', "this is the day that the blog died.
this is the day the blog died.

Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 6, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Is Campbell going to vent on Cooley next? Cooley pretty much said the same thing as CP except that he was more subtle and articulate.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 6, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

G'yeah!

Gray for DC!

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 6, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Certainly this Washington Post "blog blackout" has nothing to do with Mike Shanahan being introduced as the head coach, because everyone knows the Post has nothing but love and the utmost respect for Dan Snyder and the Washington Redskins.

Certainly not.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 6, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

This place ain't the same without your comments.

Posted by: Cindy Boren | January 6, 2010 1:07 PM |

Damning us with faint praise. Do you mean it's better or it's worse, girlfriend?

Posted by: League-Source | January 6, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

First off this is not a Holmgren situation, Holmgren tried to do everything the Cap the recruting the salary negotiation.

Shannahan has Allen to take care of the cap and the salary stuff plus they are hiring the head of pro scouts from Denver to work with the scouting department.

BA will also help with the recruting of players but Shanny will have final say if they pick a player or not.

This is the same power that Any Reid has, the same power the Belichick has, the same power that Cowher had most top coaches in the league have final say on the roster Gruden did as well.

So be happy that we have pro's running the team now and not some amteurs.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 6, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

This place ain't the same without your comments.

Posted by: Cindy Boren | January 6, 2010 1:07 PM |

Damning us with faint praise. Do you mean it's better or it's worse, girlfriend?

Posted by: League-Source | January 6, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

I think it's just not the same.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | January 6, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Anyone see the video of Shanahan and Lindsay Czarniak? Dude came off a little creepy.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 6, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

But is going to do what Spurrier did and bring in a QB he knew even if they are not very good?

If he is going to install a new system, would he want that bumb Cutler to run it?

Posted by: CheyenneWY | January 6, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Who wants to bet that Sage Rosenfels comes back to Washington if Jason Campbell doesn't?

Also: first pick in draft on left tackle; then use the second rounder (or possibly trade into the bottom of the first round) to get Colt McCoy who just so happens to be the QB at the same school where our new Offensive Coordinator played WR.

Posted by: mmeixler | January 6, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

zce,

Shanny is not going to bother himself with all the crap that is the job of a GM, he will coach and have final say on who is chosen he is not going to be negotiating salaries or worrying about the cap crap.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 6, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

This place ain't the same without your comments.

Posted by: Cindy Boren | January 6, 2010 1:07 PM |

Damning us with faint praise. Do you mean it's better or it's worse, girlfriend?

Posted by: League-Source | January 6, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

I'm tired of hearing the Jerry Grey talk. What has he done that earns him a promotion or even retention as D-Backs coach.
Someone please tell me so I can understand.

Posted by: skinsfan0524 | January 6, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

But is going to do what Spurrier did and bring in a QB he knew even if they are not very good?

If he is going to install a new system, would he want that bumb Cutler to run it?

Posted by: CheyenneWY | January 6, 2010 1:15 PM |

No

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 6, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Anyone see the video of Shanahan and Lindsay Czarniak? Dude came off a little creepy.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 6, 2010 1:15 PM

How would you feel if you are getting up out of your seat of the Palms and like 4 Spostscasters bumb rush you in the High Class Restaurant?

He didn't have his 'camera' face ready...remember, he's a burnt 57....

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 6, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Blah blah blah. Shanahan's son. Zimmer's son. Grilliams' son. Can we please get an offensive line coach who actually either played offensive line at an All Pro level or coached a line that has something to say for itself? Sounds like the Titan's guy is off limits. The Packers line certainly turned things around ... let's get that guy (after they beat Dallas* in the conference game).

* Dallas beats Philly. Green Bay beats Arizona. Dallas beats New Orleans. Green Bay defeats Minnesota. Green Bay defeats Dallas ... then loses in the Super Bowl.

Posted by: dcsween | January 6, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Zcezcest1, I agree with your comment, but I would say that telling players what they're worth will be Bruce Allen's job.

And this just in ... Wilbon on Shanahan hiring:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/06/AR2010010602367.html

Posted by: Cindy Boren | January 6, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

I wonder who will introduce Shanahamsandwich. My guess is Snyder, who - to his credit - kept up the pretense that Allen was in control for almost a full 3 weeks!

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 6, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

There should be a separate Rooney Rule for the hiring of sons as assistant coaches. Every team has to interview at least one Little Lebowski Urban Achiever for each open assistant slot.

Posted by: dcsween | January 6, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Cooley stays.

As for Portis and Campbell, they can both hit the road.

Don't need 'em.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | January 6, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Does Joe Jacoby still own that car dealership...bring him back for O-Line coach

Posted by: CheyenneWY | January 6, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Please fire Jerry Gray. He is one of the worst coaches we have. It's amazing that people continue to praise him...he must have that great ability to fail upwards his entire life. What's our worst position other than O-line? Our secondary. All top draft picks and tons of money + horrible coach = biggest weakness.

Posted by: Section104 | January 6, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Is Campbell going to vent on Cooley next? Cooley pretty much said the same thing as CP except that he was more subtle and articulate.

Posted by: learnedhand1


Not a chance. People in this area don't care for Portis and Campbell knows this.

Campbell damn well knows that if you bash Chris Cooley around these parts, you're subject to death by stoning or impalement.

Only Chris Cooley can be critical of the team. Everyone else not named Chris Cooley has to just shut up, smile and dance.

Posted by: RedDMV | January 6, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

How would you feel if you are getting up out of your seat of the Palms and like 4 Spostscasters bumb rush you in the High Class Restaurant?...

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 6, 2010 1:18 PM

He wouldn't let her hand go and was looking at her like he was Joe Namath. "You're from Channel 4, right." Did the big 4 on her mike give it away?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 6, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

didn't bruce allen fire zorn? didn't bruce allen hire Shanny??

what part of that did wilbon not get, or was he still trying to sell that ST refused to distance himself from his past....sorry, never letting that one go...

4th, I'd rather have zimmer at DC than Gray. Seems to me like the focus is youth on some of these potential hires...thats good

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 6, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

zce,

Shanny is not going to bother himself with all the crap that is the job of a GM, he will coach and have final say on who is chosen he is not going to be negotiating salaries or worrying about the cap crap.

Posted by: Flounder21

Problem isn't simply the 'cap crap' ... and yes Shanny will have to be aware of it because it will be part of what he has to get right, even if Allen does most of the work. The cap issues took up lots of management time and being so close to the cap led mgmt (Cerrato & Gibbs) into a lot of mediocre decisions.

Problem is that a coach needs to focus his time on the players on the team, while the Exec needs to spend his time looking at everyone else -- college players, free agents, other players on other teams/practice squads. Literally a couple thousand players. Both jobs are 100 hour a week jobs.

As for negotiating and coaching, its been pointed out on many occasions how problematic it is to play both roles. Even though Allen has 'responsibility', if Shanny is the ultimate authority, everyone will know that nothing is final with Allen.


Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 6, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

I thought that it was interesting that Bruce Allen referenced the Medical Staff during his speech. He is definitely in the weeds on this one.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | January 6, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Please fire Jerry Gray. He is one of the worst coaches we have. It's amazing that people continue to praise him...he must have that great ability to fail upwards his entire life. What's our worst position other than O-line? Our secondary. All top draft picks and tons of money + horrible coach = biggest weakness.

Posted by: Section104 | January 6, 2010 1:22 PM |


I agree. What has he done to earn a promotion or retention?

Posted by: skinsfan0524 | January 6, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

NEWS FLASH:

By now, few would argue that CP26 is a lazy, selfish me-first, over the hill, out of condition, worthless excuse of a player who somehow managed to bilk the Redskins out of $7+ million this past season for approximately 6 or 7 partial days of work – exclusively on game days – in exchange for a little over 400 yards of mostly wasted offensive production – over the course of an entire year.

But now he's trying to outdo even himself – with unbridled and brazon arrogance -- and the complete alienation of teammates and fans alike – with a continuing series of transparently aggressive and insubordinate behaviors that are forcing many inside and outside the organization to call for his early release from his contract.

The method in his madness: by doing so, CP26 figures he can still make $5+ million in the 2010 season -- but for doing absolutely as little, if anything, as possible.

CP26 insinuated as much Tuesday during his much publicized radio interview on the local ESPN affiliate when he said: "I used to want to be that guy, but now I don't. It's about me going to work and getting the job done and going home happy. All that other stuff is trying to be a captain or a leader or control everyone else. I can't control everyone else. In 2010 what Clinton Portis needs to do is go out and give everything I've got on the field and lead by example and go home with a smile on my face."

And the damndest thing about it is that he'll probably get away with it too!

Posted by: Vic1 | January 6, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Is Campbell going to vent on Cooley next? Cooley pretty much said the same thing as CP except that he was more subtle and articulate.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | January 6, 2010 1:10 PM

No because JReid isn't going to call JAson for a reply to post up here......

Also, I listen to the replay of the interview going home yesterday, it didn't sound as bad as the Post made it....HE wasn't calling out JC.

Portis said How can JC be a leader when he has to worry about personnel going in and out constantly, worrying about getting the play in on time and getting everyone lined up. He also said what we all know...That he's going to give you the same reaction irregardless of what's going on around him...

That was a knock on the coaches. And we all know aboutthe play calling fiasco. JC had too many responsibilities on the field that he should have never been made captin.

Agree or don't agree?

Posted by: 4thFloor | January 6, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Shanny has 3 rings, one with SF as OC when Steve Young was QB. And without SF winning that one Dallas might have won another.

Posted by: skinfanman | January 6, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

I don't have to read Wilbon today, I saw him on PTI last night with Kornheiser. Tony seemed shocked that Wilbon is still such a hater when it comes the Redskins, in particularly the Shanahan hiring.

Then he remembered that Wilbon eats lunch at Sally Jenkins desk every day.

Res ipsa loquitur.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | January 6, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Joe Gibbs had three Super Bowl rings when he was the head coach and EVP. Shanahan only has two. Shanahan as head coach, with Bruce Allen as his wink wink GM, I could get over. Shanahan as EVP has, well, already popped the bubble of off-season euphoria. I agree with Wilbon, fool me once, shame on you. Try to fool me with the same stupid card trick, F that. [And F Dallas and F chRIs LaRrY.]

Posted by: dcsween | January 6, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Does Joe Jacoby still own that car dealership...bring him back for O-Line coach

Posted by: CheyenneWY | January 6, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Are you kidding? Jacoby can barely talk. Have you heard him in those "Theatre Vision" commercials? Awful sounding....

Posted by: ksquare | January 6, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

I don't have to read Wilbon today, I saw him on PTI last night with Kornheiser. Tony seemed shocked that Wilbon is still such a hater when it comes the Redskins, in particularly the Shanahan hiring.

Then he remembered that Wilbon eats lunch at Sally Jenkins desk every day.

Res ipsa loquitur.

Posted by: MrRedskin21

Hahahaha -- great....

Posted by: RedDMV | January 6, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Unbelievable that they would consider Grey for a DC position. We need to jump on Zimmer asap.

Cheer with me loud: J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS!!!

Posted by: REXskins | January 6, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

didn't bruce allen fire zorn? didn't bruce allen hire Shanny??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 6, 2010 1:24 PM

No and no.

Posted by: dcsween | January 6, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

much like Davis, Thomas, and Kelly, I'm going to give Shanny a while or should I say a CHANCE before I weight in on his ability or inability to hold both roles....'a while' being something just beyond the realm of 24 hours........I mean, trying to be somewhat realistic and all.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 6, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Hey, we appear to be back in business. Should there be a hiccup or other digestive upset, scoot over to the NFL News Feed...we'll be rocking and rolling, ramming and jamming with all the news, so if you don't see anything here for a bit, that might mean Loseable Type (where is the polo mallet when I need it?) is busted again. Thanks for hanging in there with us. This place ain't the same without your comments.

Posted by: Cindy Boren | January 6, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse
I still blame this all on Danny Snyder I think he hacked ya.

Posted by: alex35332 | January 6, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

We need to jump on Zimmer asap.

Cheer with me loud: J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS!!!

Posted by: REXskins | January 6, 2010 1:32 PM

That would be awesome. First the Jets paste 37 points on the Bengals' D. Then they do it again two weeks later, completely pantsing the defensive coordinator ... who the Skins then hire.

Posted by: dcsween | January 6, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Peeps aren't we getting sucked in just like usual? This is Dan Snyder business as usual.

There he is going out in the offseason and making a big splash-- winning the offseason Super Bowl again. Except instead of Albert Haynesworth or Joe Gibbs or Deion Sanders, this time just type in the name Mike Shanahan.

And just like all the other big name peeps that Snyder went after, it was the same here. Fly em out in your plane, wine and dine em and then make a big media splash.
What is different folks?

And what's with a 5-year contract?? What coach under Snyder has come close to lasting even 3 years.

And what happened to the Big GM hire just a week ago? All of a sudden he doesn't even have Football-Final-Say Power anymore.
What kind of GM is that?

Folks, face it, nothing has changed in Redskin Land.

Posted by: dovelevine | January 6, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

trade cooley for picks. he & portis have shown time & time again they are "me" guys seeking attention whenever possible. fred davis has much more upside anyway.

Posted by: phk28 | January 6, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Are you kidding? Jacoby can barely talk. Have you heard him in those "Theatre Vision" commercials? Awful sounding....

Posted by: ksquare

No worries Sir,

I already thought of that which is why we should take Jeff Bostic as an interpreter

Posted by: CheyenneWY | January 6, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

I watched the Bengals/Jets game. There's no way anyone can convince me that Cincy was even trying in that game.

What I found downright bizarre was that until the 3rd quarter (when I turned it off) Carson Palmer was still playing. I thought to myself: Why? It's obvious this team isn't trying.

So anyways, maybe the Jets win again this week, but it won't be a 37-0 pasting.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | January 6, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Cheer with me loud: J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS!!!

Posted by: REXskins | January 6, 2010 1:32 PM

Oh, you have NO idea just how loud I was cheering J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS against Cincy the other night.

dcsween knows, though. And he's still boycotting me.

Posted by: 4-12 | January 6, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

trade cooley for picks. he & portis have shown time & time again they are "me" guys

Posted by: phk28 | January 6, 2010 1:35 PM

Portis = the me guy
Cooley = the mini me guy

Posted by: League-Source | January 6, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Problem is that a coach needs to focus his time on the players on the team, while the Exec needs to spend his time looking at everyone else -- college players, free agents, other players on other teams/practice squads. Literally a couple thousand players. Both jobs are 100 hour a week jobs.

As for negotiating and coaching, its been pointed out on many occasions how problematic it is to play both roles. Even though Allen has 'responsibility', if Shanny is the ultimate authority, everyone will know that nothing is final with Allen.


Posted by: zcezcest1 | January 6, 2010 1:24 PM |

Andy Reid has final say on players in Philly how does he do it.

Cowher won a SB with final say on players in Pitts.

Gruden won a SB with final say on players in TB, he also took the sorry a$$ Raiders to the SB with final say on players.

You think Jeff Fisher in Tenn. doesn't have final say on players?

Belichich has final say on everything for the Pats. how does he manage it?

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 6, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

"Also, I listen to the replay of the interview going home yesterday, it didn't sound as bad as the Post made it....HE wasn't calling out JC".

Disagree 4th. If you listen to it again, you'll hear CP preface his comments saying "with no disrespect to Jason".

Anytime anyone says that, they proceed to say something unflattering or disrespectful.

Based on JC's comments, CP wasn't even around the facility the last month and a half.

JC confirmed what everyone tried to down play, CP would run over top of coaches and anyone else, and go straight to Snyder.

JC confirmed CP isn't well liked in the locker room. Maybe it's CP running to the owner to complain, maybe CP practicing when he feels like it, maybe showing up when you want.

Let's call this like it really is....JC was SPOT F*CKING ON.

Posted by: ksquare | January 6, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

waiting on the Rock Cartwright 3 part interview.

Part 1: How CP stopped me from being a HOF RB.

Part 2: How CP ruined the team.

Part 3: the meaning of a true redskin.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | January 6, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Portis is done. I saw Campbell throw a hail mary pass out of bounds. That says it all. Ship them both out.

Posted by: SoCalSkinsFan | January 6, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

didn't bruce allen fire zorn? didn't bruce allen hire Shanny??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1

A 5 year contract doesn't manifest itself in a day. Snyder has been laying the groundwork for this (probably with VC's help) all year long. Bruce Allen didn't have a choice, and was probably made aware of this plan while he was interviewing for his GM position.

It's unthinkable that BA was hired without knowledge of this plan, so the nightmare scenario of him coming in thinking he could hire a HC himself and being usurped immediately is not a concern.

So on the bright side, BA accepted the plan when he was considering the position.

Posted by: REXskins | January 6, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Sing to American Pie
Posted by: noonefromtampa | January 6, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

LOL, noone. I think we have a new classic~

Posted by: frediefritz | January 6, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Every time I turn around, Deangelo Hall is talking to the media. Please someone put a cork in his mouth and shut him up. Who appointed him team spokesman. He is one overrated player who cannot and does not want to tackle, cannot cover and happens to intercept deflections because he is out of position most of the time. Media, don't ask him any questions for crying out loud, nobodys wants to hear his sorry ass.

Posted by: getitritegov | January 6, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

dc, what does this mean, help me out:

"Early this morning, shortly after the team returned from its season-ending loss to the San Diego Chargers at San Diego, Redskins General Manager Bruce Allen finally informed Jim Zorn that he was being fired"

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 6, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Folks, face it, nothing has changed in Redskin Land.


Posted by: dovelevine | January 6, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

I'm afraid I agree...

Posted by: mattylight | January 6, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

And what's with a 5-year contract?? What coach under Snyder has come close to lasting even 3 years.

And what happened to the Big GM hire just a week ago? All of a sudden he doesn't even have Football-Final-Say Power anymore.
What kind of GM is that?

Folks, face it, nothing has changed in Redskin Land.


Posted by: dovelevine | January 6, 2010 1:35 PM |

Are you stupid Gibbs coached for 4 years, and how can there be change if he doesn't hire a new coach maybe Shanny should have flown on his own dime with that have made you happy.

People like you will only be happy if Snyder sells the team and that isn't happening so maybe you should become a Ravens fan.

Posted by: Flounder21 | January 6, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | January 6, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Bruce Allen is no stiff who took the job to stand around and look pretty. I'm sure both he and Shanahan will have input re personnel, despite what the leaks about contract details say.

I don't think there's anyway Campbell is back here. So I hope they get compensation for him if another team makes an offer.

Of course it's always possible that no team will make an offer for Campbell, which would be funny as hell but not really surprising.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | January 6, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Folks, face it, nothing has changed in Redskin Land.

Posted by: dovelevine

This is the best coaching hire DS has ever made. I was just as excited about Gibbs II, as was everyone else. But it turns out he was out of the game too long, probably didn't have the same drive, and had an OC with a conflicting ideology.

We don't have any of those problems with Shanahan. That's why I'm drinking the coolaid - for now.

Posted by: REXskins | January 6, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

re: Wilbon

Michael is simply bitter that his Chicago Bears gave Lovie another year and didn't pursue Shanny.

His job is to cover the Skins and while he typically does a great job his true love is the Bears. Probably better to have an unbiased opinion, but take it for what it's worth, an opinion from a Bears fan.

Posted by: Diesel44 | January 6, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Bean,

We've been linked to Shanahan long before Bruce Allen ever set foot in the building. To say this was his hire is absurd. This was another splashy Daniel M. Snyder move...

Posted by: mattylight | January 6, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

for those of you who are interested in stats. here is one about all the experts and where they rated from last year and the last three years.

thehuddlereport.com/Free/mockdraftscoring.shtml

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 6, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: frediefritz | January 6, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

"No one can do both and be nearly as effective as compared to two guys who properly divide responsibilities."

Instances where it has worked, and worked wonders: Jimmy Johnson, Bill Belichick, Bill Cowher. All 3 have done it tremendously. Two of them are the two most successful coaches of the free agency era (and yes, Belichick has had full reign over football decisions his entire coaching career, even when Pioli was backing him up -- much like Allen). Bill Parcells did it in New England, NY Jets, and Dallas, all three times turning around horrid franchises into playoff teams within 2 years. Even Joe Gibbs did it, and that's been the only bright spot in this Redskins franchise for nearly the past 2 decades.

Shanahan's deal ensures that Shanahan gets to select the players he wants for his system, which is the way it always should be. Allen deals with the contracts, the negotiations, the diplomacy, and everything else behind the scenes. So long as you have the right mind behind the football decisions (and Shanahan is that mind), this is exactly the situation you want to have.

Posted by: psps23 | January 6, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Folks, face it, nothing has changed in Redskin Land.

Posted by: dovelevine | January 6, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse
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I'm with ya, but I even in my pessimism I have optimism for three reasons

1. Vinny aint here
2. Someone is at least looking at the cap full time, so instead of the offseason ritual of mortgaging the future, maybe we actually make some fiscally responsible decisions out of want, not need
3. Someone is at least powerful enough to tell Danny to keep his grubby hands in the owners box.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | January 6, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't wipe my ass with a Wilbon article. What a dbag blowhard.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | January 6, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't wipe my ass with a Wilbon article. What a dbag blowhard.

Posted by: ToddStinkston

Amen brother. truer words were never spoken with such simple clarity.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | January 6, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan won two Super Bowls with a team put together by someone else. Also, his track record on quarterbacks isn't any better than the Redskins' record over the last 25 years. He should fit in pretty well here in sixth circle of sports hell.

Posted by: BigTrees | January 6, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

It is amazing how players making millions of dollars are crying in public for leadership, CP and CC should be ashamed of themselves, grow up you idiots!

Posted by: abxinc | January 6, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Exit Jim Zorn. Enter Mike Shanahan.

Some claim Shanahan is a football genius because he has two Super Bowl rings. He sure does. He coached a team assembled by Dan Reeves. Take away those two years and Shanahan is no better than average. Look at his personnel moves, especially at quarterback, and Shanahan becomes run-of-the-mill. That makes him perfect for Snyder-world.

Posted by: BigTrees | January 6, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

hopefully sage rosenfelds does not come back except as a back-up what is his weight now? 183lbs on a 6'5 frame. I hope this is not the 1st allen/shanahan move.

Posted by: wathu19 | January 6, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Portis has said Campbell is not a leader and now Cooley has backed him up... how many more guys do yu need??? Campbell is not a leader. he is a gut who plays not to lose.. Please please get rid of him...

Posted by: sovine08 | January 7, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

trade cooley for picks. he & portis have shown time & time again they are "me" guys seeking attention whenever possible. fred davis has much more upside anyway.
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Portis maybe a me guy but HE was the reason the Skins started 2008 6-2. And those "me guys" BOTH went the to Pro Bowl last year.. when has JC even sniffed a pro bowl??? Hey I think Portis should go because I think he is to beaten up.. but Cooley?? Cooley is the best player the Skins have on offense.. And no I not convinced Davis can replace him.. A couple of good games does not put him in Cooley's league.. Besides there are a lot of stories that Davis has a lot of growing up to do...

Posted by: sovine08 | January 7, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

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