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What's the Problem?

By Cindy Boren  |  December 2, 2008; 4:00 PM ET
 
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Tru Dat Sheik!

I would love to see Soup not telegraph the short route from the beginning of the play.. lol

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 2, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

The OFFICIAL Sean Taylor Tribute Song and Vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mWBMiWc6bw&eurl=http://ezstreetshow.com/&feature=player_embedded

The Redskins' song was licensed from the team. The beat was chopped up a little bit.

It features all local DC Talent. Big G (SlimCharles from the Wire and lead rapper from the Backyard Band), Wahle, Ms. Kim from Rare Essence, Raheem Devaughn. I know most of you guys don't know these people, but trust me when I say most DC Area peeps know these people....

Also featured is Chris Sameuls girlfriend who is H-O-T HOT. Sameuls is in their for a hot second......

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 2, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Poor little Deadskin fans their playoff hopes are crushed. And they can blame Vinnie the Gerbil for it.
Deadskins wont in another game all season and they won score more than a touchdown in each of their last four games.
Danny Boy will can Zorn and make a run for the Chin. He wont get them and will hire Charlie Wise
Posted by: omarthetentmaker | December 2, 2008 3:45 PM

Hoo ar u to com up here and stare talking smake? As the Fonzee used to sa, 'sit in it ponsy"!!

Posted by: dlhaze1 | December 2, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

7-5 wouldn't be so bad had they not gone 5-1 and then 2-4 averaging 1 TD per game by the ohh.

Posted by: dealer1 | December 2, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Cindy,

Could we please have an "all of the above" choice in the poll?

Posted by: captjim | December 2, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Blame Canada.

Posted by: Redcoat | December 2, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

but still if, and it's a big friggin if without gibbs on the sidelines, they beat balmer we're back to playoff talk.

Posted by: dealer1 | December 2, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Listening to the JZ Radio Show.

Sounds like he won't be changing any thing. He just want the team to have better execution on 'key' plays that would change the whole game....

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 2, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

i just don't understand if jansen is playing sooooooooooooooo poorly whey hasn't the dumb jock made the switch to heyer?

Posted by: dealer1 | December 2, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

key plays= 3rd downs which are usually 3rd and long? wtf!!! why not improve on first and 2nd downs? ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!! i'm getting mad...no wonder seattle was like dude, ummm no!

Posted by: dealer1 | December 2, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Canada - They're not even a real country, anyway!

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | December 2, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

so zorny is putting everything on the players? are you friggin kidding me?!

Posted by: dealer1 | December 2, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Zorn said Packmeir is improving.....

Czaben asked JZ about Suishim being the lowest rated kicker. JZ said he won't answer it because it is a loaded question. Said it's ONLY Suishim 2nd year...

But wasn't it only Brooks' 1st? I think we could have kept the dude the way Placky is playing....

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 2, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

4th, thanks for the constant up dates for us out of towners.

ugh....that doesn't bode well. 4 touchdowns the last 3 weeks, and he thinks changes don't need to be made??

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 2, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

i thought placky is playing fine...no one can down his punts inside the 20...for the skins!

Posted by: dealer1 | December 2, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Nice to see you finally showed up John....

Ok, that was my last and only comment about that....

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 2, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Can we choose more than one answer? OR have "All of the Above" as an option

Posted by: Predator48 | December 2, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Well I blame the refs

Posted by: alex35332 | December 2, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Suisham has definitely lost something. Both his FGs and kickoffs have nosedived in the past 3 weeks. He came up short 2x on FGs under 50 yards plus another miss vs nyg on Sunday.

Not sure why the Skins wouldn't bring someone in this week to try out. Suisham looked like an answer to our long history of kicker issues, but no longer.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 2, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Personally, I think someone has secretly switched Zorn's playbook with Rod Marinelli's.

And our Linemen too.

Posted by: Predator48 | December 2, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

The question should be what is the Answer or Answers?

We have identified most of the problems but how do we fix them.
havent heard anything concrete yet

Posted by: GreatOne1 | December 2, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

John, sorry about that FF game. Woulda liked to see you move on, especially since you were 2nd in the league in points scored. Something not right about being that good and not in the playoffs.

As for Canada, they are a country with their own National Anthem. I know because I see Sharks hockey games and when they play teams from Canada, they play 2 National Anthems. And thats how I know Canada is a country.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 2, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

JZ said SuisHam has a strong leg.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 2, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Wow, that tribute song was pretty awful. Seems like they tried to write it in an afternoon. What does Barack Obama have to do with anything? I heard his name come up twice.

Posted by: PatM1 | December 2, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

REDSKINS FANS!!

every thurs evening...terrell suggs does his espn radio show at michaels pub in columbia. he discusses the upcoming game and there are a decent amount of ravens fans. The show is broadcast live and u can even ask questions on air, I am planning to go to the radio show with my redskins jersey underneath a tshirt...and i'm going to get on the mic like i'm going to ask terrell suggs a question...but once I get on the mic...i'm gonna rip off the tshirt and go wild and let him know that he and the rest of his crew will get run over this weekend...i think it would be great if we could get a good redskins showing out there thurs evening....lets show everyone how stupid it is to be a ravens fan...i hate ravens fans...lets take over their show...who is down?!?!

Posted by: jasonma1 | December 2, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

The question should be what is the Answer or Answers?

We have identified most of the problems but how do we fix them. havent heard anything concrete yet

Posted by: GreatOne1

I took my shot at the problem and what we can do to change that.

+++++

Did some serious thinking about the Skins and their playoff hopes. And yes, they still have a shot. What personnel options (as opposed to game plan options) do they have that could make a difference?

First, the defense has got to be more effective in creating turnovers and short fields. The only guy who can make a potential difference is Jason Taylor. He's been a game changer before, so its time to let him go for it now.

On offense, its clear that Jansen is not cutting it. Is Heyer better? Don't know, but at some point, I think you have to take that chance. I can't advocate for Reinhart, though.

On the WR front, I've seen enough of Devin Thomas to recognize that he isn't likely to be a playmaker, at least not this year. So go with Kelly as the #2 WR and see what he has. Use ARE as #3.

All of these moves are risks, but we know the current lineup isn't getting the job done.

Stay the course = miss the playoffs.

Its time to take some risks.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 2, 2008 1:06 PM

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 2, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

+++While the O-line is partially to blame, Jason is not making quick enough mental decisions. If the first read is covered he has problems.

Posted by: Thoroughbred+++


The problem is nobody else is open, either.

Bad pass blocking, bad WR corps, Sunday Portis gained 22 yards and people here blame the QB.

Start Collins. Bring in Brennan. THAT will solve the problem.

Posted by: TheCork | December 2, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

BRAKING NEWS BREAKING NEWS

DURANT BROOKS IS GOING TO GREN BAY TO TRY OUT FOR THE PUNTING JOB

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 2, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

******BEGIN FF POST*****
Yes, I really have no idea what happened to my team - I suspect I ran into a couple of great games by other teams. Actually, it was my full intention to emulate the Redskins season, by starting off with a strong record and losing 4 out of my last 6. I will now leave the real Redskins destiny to fate.
*******END FF POST*******

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | December 2, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

actually that's a over-simplified poll, its all kinda related, the wide receivers are the draft picks and they have yet to show up and thus no real effort was made to alter the Oline both of which hurts JZ's ability to call the plays he wants which in the end gets JC killed.

There shoulda been an all of the above choice!

Posted by: zjfr2 | December 2, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Bad news: we've lost 4 of our last 5.
Good news: at least our coach isn't Norv Turner

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 2, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Wow, that tribute song was pretty awful. Seems like they tried to write it in an afternoon. What does Barack Obama have to do with anything? I heard his name come up twice.

Posted by: PatM1 | December 2, 2008 4:35 PM

I guess we got different taste. This one was trying to be more inspirational, Stop The Violence type song. This was a keep on living song...

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 2, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Bad news: we've lost 4 of our last 5.
Good news: at least our coach isn't Norv Turner

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 2, 2008 4:44 PM

So, why do I feel like it's 1996 when we were 7-1 and Norv was I coach? I think you guys know what happened that year.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 2, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

jack,
It's not a real poll. It's just a bright, shiny object to keep us mesmerized until something else comes along. Really.

Anyway, it's nap time at the Post.

Posted by: _Stumped_1 | December 2, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Greg - word on the Street (Wall Street) is that you should hang onto your bonus points - they are going to make a huge comeback in several months when the Washington Post is purchased by Rupert Murdoch

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | December 2, 2008 3:50 PM

Greg,

Nancy Pelosi was just on CNN, mostly talking about the GM/Ford/Chrysler bailout. But she did say, at the end, "If this legislation does go through, Senator Kennedy has said he will attach a rider to bring relief to innocent citizens who were victimized by the 'bonus point bubble.'" So, my question to you -- are you an innocent citizen or a guilty citizen?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | December 2, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

I was disappointed to see the owner and his sidekick among the multiple choices...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | December 2, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

zJFR2 ain't lying when he says it's a simplified poll. Let's ask the following questions:

a. Is the Danny willing to commit to a serious five year, draft based plan to rebuild the team?

b. Would hiring a strong General Manager, like the Giants did with Floyd Reese be a good idea?

c. Which present Redskins players should be given the remaining games to prove they're productive?

d. Which free agent quarterback should be brough in to back up/replace Jason Campbell when he has been as ineffective as he has been?

e. Is the heavy workload Portis asked for at the beginning of the season the direct cause of the brakedowns he's suffering now?

f. Should the guy who re-signed Betts openly ask why he doesn't play more?

h. Which young back up offensive lineman deserves a shot at starting immediately?

Let the questions start there and mail the answers to Tom Cruise's little friend....

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 2, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

4th - you feel that way only because of the utter sense of hopelessness that one gets watching this team try to score - it's hard to think we're going to win when we can't get more than 14-17 points a game...

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | December 2, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

There shoulda been an all of the above choice!

Posted by: zjfr2 | December 2, 2008 4:42 PM

Jack,

Which part of the word "most" don't you understand?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | December 2, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Winning cures all ills.

If they beat Baltimore Sunday night, all is well again.

If they lose, it's time to start thinking about next season, FA's, draft picks, et al.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | December 2, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

"Senator Kennedy has said he will attach a rider"

Play on words that I'm certain was unintentional.

Someone should have shouted out, "Like Mark Jo Kopechne over the Chappaquiddick Bridge"

Sorry Massachusetts humor.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 2, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

should have read, "Mary Jo Kopechne"

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 2, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of dearest Norval, after he gets canned by the Chargers at the end of the season, is there still an owner who's stupid enough to give this guy another shot as head coach?

Posted by: 4-12 | December 2, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

By the way, looking at the standings, playoff scenarios, etc., how large does that Rams loss loom right about now?

It's one thing to lose to the Steelers, the world champion Giants, and split with the Cowboys, but dropping that game to St. Louis is already coming back to haunt the Skins as they look toward a way into the playoffs.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | December 2, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

4th,
I really liked the Tribute piece, it seemed heartfelt.

The only down side is that I now feel much older, squarer (square is an antiquated term that roughly means the opposite of hip) and ever so much whiter than before.

Posted by: _Stumped_1 | December 2, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

"Like Mark Jo Kopechne over the Chappaquiddick Bridge"

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 2, 2008 4:52 PM

That's a new wrinkle. I always thought it was Mary Jo. So Kennedy was intersted in young boys?

Where I come from we're more interested in Billie Jo McAllister and the Tallatchee Bridge. That one is still a bigger mystery than your bridge game.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | December 2, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

I swwwam, I swwwam and I swwwam, but Mary Jo wasn't thEAIR.

Posted by: _Stumped_1 | December 2, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

te, lol, typo on my part....although with ted, you never know....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 2, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

is there still an owner who's stupid enough to give this guy another shot as head coach?

Posted by: 4-12 | December 2, 2008 4:54 PM

No. He's already worked for all the stupid owners in the league. But maybe Snyder will bring him back as offensive coordinator to help Zorn?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | December 2, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

The way I figure it, Norv will be fired at the end of the season.

Then Al Davis will hold a press conference announcing his intention hire Norv as the new coach of the Raydahs. At that press conference, Davis snarls, his left eye twitches spasmodically, and when a reporter points out that Norv has already been the Raiders coach, Davis calls the reporter a go***mn liar.

This will finally provide conclusive evidence that Al Davis is suffering from severe senile dementia and should be committed.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | December 2, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Okay name the best team that Balimore has beaten this year:

Miami.

(feel better?)

Posted by: _Stumped_1 | December 2, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

All this Reaper Raisin' has me reminiscing over Lenny Bias!

Kinda similar in that 'taken before his time' tragedy.

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 2, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Skins should be thinking about how to improve the team long-term regardless of how they do against Baltimore. Only real difference between Pittsburgh and Baltimore is Rothleisberger and the Steeler receivers are a little better. I don't see how we can score more than 10 points against Baltimore after what we've done against Pittsburgh, Dallas, and NY.

Unless JZ is able to pull some trick plays out of his hat or Malcolm Kelly suddenly becomes a stud 2nd receiver team, this offense is going nowhere. Our defense should keep us in the game, but they don't force TO's or score points like Baltimore. Our kicker is now a liability while Baltimore has more automatic in Matt Stover. Special teams are pathetic with the exception of Rock Cartwright's kickoff returns.

I don't see how JZ can say with a straight face that its about execution. This is an 8-8 or 9-7 team just like back in 1996 under Norv.

Posted by: wizfan89 | December 2, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

One thing about 2008 ... way more than the usual number of rookies are making big contributions. At RB, Forte, Slaton and Chris Johnson are all top 10 in rushing yards. At QB, Flacco and Ryan. At WR, Royal, jackson and Avery among others. Been reading about several other guys at less glamorous positions fitting in quickly.

2008 has been a banner year for rookies.

Which does make the spotlight glare more brightly on our rookies.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 2, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

** FF **

Stumped- Looks like the winner of our game 'wins' the weakest division in FF history.

** End FF **

Posted by: 4-12 | December 2, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

The only down side is that I now feel much older, squarer (square is an antiquated term that roughly means the opposite of hip) and ever so much whiter than before.

Posted by: _Stumped_1 | December 2, 2008 4:58 PM

Stumped - Yeah. As you see most of the peole were in their 20s and Early 30s. That's why I prefaced it with, 'trust me, these people are known.'

And as you see they are the only people able to get the redskins song licensed from the team. So, the 'Skins basically approved their message.

If you thought that was too much, you would trip if you were ever to watch the TV show 'Redskins LAte Night'

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/redskins-rap/2251628632

Larry Landovaaa

AND THIS IS HIS SIDE KICK - Crystal Ball -

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=312337484

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 2, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: zjfr2 | December 2, 2008 4:42 PM

Jack,

Which part of the word "most" don't you understand?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | December 2, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

which part of oversimplified do you not understand?

Football is the ultimate team sport, you can rarely, and especially with a franchise this dysfunctional, point at one thing that is the major reason for the struggles. Oline, which was my vote btw, prolly is the one but that is just silly to boil it all down and point at them.

Is it their fault they're old? Is it their fault Samuels is hurt and Heyer got hurt? Is it their fault at this point there really isn't a legitimate guy behind either guard or center positions? Is it JC's fault he has little time to throw because we can't protect against basic stunts and blitzes?

Is JC's fault that when teams don't blitz his receivers can't get open? Is it his fault that on 3rd and 7 they run 5 yard routes and can't break tackles? Is it his fault that when he hits them in the chest they drop it?

Is it the receivers fault that there is no legit veteran talent other than Moss to let them ease into their roles?

Is it Zorn's fault half his passing weapons in a passing system came to camp out of shape and not ready to play NFL football? Or that they can't stay healthy or read a playbook?

Given all of that, I think its amazing we're 7-5 and to point at a "most" to blame with all of that and Vinny not a choice is silly.

Posted by: zjfr2 | December 2, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Forte and Slayton are leaders on my fantasy team, no doubt!

Posted by: chrislarry | December 2, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

I don't think it has anything to do with Kelly's ability or JC's ability.

I've watched this team since 1978, and I've seen QBs with less talent than JC thrive here, throwing to WRs with less talent than Moss.

In short, guys like Joey T, Jay Schroeder (briefly), and Mark Rypien were able to make plays via the long ball to average WRs like Danny Buggs, Virgil Seay, Alvin Garrett and others because those QBs had GREAT PROTECTION.

Until JC gets solid - and consistent - protection up front, this passing offense is going nowhere.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | December 2, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

BRAKING NEWS BREAKING NEWS

DURANT BROOKS IS GOING TO GREN BAY TO TRY OUT FOR THE PUNTING JOB

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 2, 2008 4:40 PM

I almost smashed my head on the windshield with this "braking" news.

Not only that, but Brooks tried out in Arizona on Monday and he's stopping to try out in Cincinnati on his way to Arizona. Skins should have put the guy on IR.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | December 2, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Ummm, Schroeder and Rypien had talent at WR. Lots of talent. Monk and Clark for starters.

But the o-line was pretty darn good. It'd be considered great, but no HOFers (which says more about the HOF than Jacoby, Grimm, Bostic, Lachey, et al)

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 2, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

I think the poll may have been to defray some of the negativity on Soupy.. lol.

We all kinda agree that the line holds the most onus. But we covered that so many weeks ago, we've moved on.. hahaha

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 2, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Which part of the word "most" don't you understand?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | December 2, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

which part of oversimplified do you not understand?

Posted by: zjfr2 | December 2, 2008 5:09 PM

So, basically, you don't understand any part of the word "most." Okay, how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | December 2, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Packers release Frost. Hmmm, I remember reading these exact same kind of comments about him on this site. Great practice player but not a gamer.

On the day they released Frost, whose poor back-to-back punts in the first quarter this past Sunday set up a short field for Carolina's first touchdown, the Packers remained perplexed that he performed well in practice each week but punted poorly on game day.

"I've never been involved like that before with a guy who's got talent, which he does, and has not been able to put at least a couple games together," said Mike Stock, the Packers' special-teams coach and an 18-year NFL assistant. "It's not like this guy can't do it, he can do it."

Posted by: isonic1 | December 2, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

I thought I'd leave you with a poem. Bye guys. Catch you around.

(It’s no crime) Losing to the Giants

On the sidelines; all forlorn,
standing tall, as straight as corn,
wishing he was never born,
keeping vigil, stands Jim Zorn.

Another home defeat this week,
Eli’s passing’s pretty sleek,
Skins surrender, almost meek,
JZ’s future; looking bleak.

His Mid-West offense starts to stink,
his kicker’s leg begins to shrink,
in play calling tends to over-think,
Skins fans sigh, and take a drink.

Though his demeano(u)r is animated,
his adjustments always seem belated,
to Joe Gibbs, is he related?
for this game, he won’t be feted.

“Just bad luck” say some reporters,
“losing out on Clinton Portis”,
failing to note for all four quarters,
Skins were always falling shorter.

But it’s no crime to lose to Giants,
who excel at applying violence,
not so much in ballistic science,
or in NFL rule compliance.*

But never fear our Jim is strong,
he knows where we have gone wrong,
“execution” is his song,
It’s the player’s fault, all along.

But watch out Jim, here comes Vin,
to help you out, with leering grin,
search for your successor he’ll begin,
unless this week you get a win.

On the sidelines; all forlorn,
standing tall, as straight as corn,
wishing he was never born,
keeping vigil, stands Jim Zorn.


*Had to get a dig at Plaxico in there somehow.

Posted by: Redcoat | December 2, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

At the start of Fiddler on the Roof, they ask the rabbi if there is a prayer for the czar. The rabbi says there is a prayer for everyone. The prayer for the czar: "My God bless and keep the Czar, far far away from us"

Same prayer, just substitute Durant Brooks for the czar.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 2, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

The line needs to be replaced; it is too old for the NFL. However, it is actually better this year than last because of the limit in the number of injuries.
Jason was next to bottom in the stats that count - red zone touchdowns and points scored. The 3 years passes to build up completion percentage is meaningless. He may have made the bottom after this week; this is ridiculous. I have no idea if Colt can do better, but he can do no worse than the bottom.
We have the second leading rushing game in the NFL and we are second from the bottom in scoring. The running back and rush blockers are not the scoring problem. The defense has done its part and is certainly not the offensive scoring problem. Therefore it must be the passing game (QB and/or receivers and/or blockers).
After watching last year's improvement in the QB position at the end of the season with the same O line and running backs after Jason was out with injuries; it is reasonable to say his performance problems are real and still evident. It would be nice to know if he is a better option than the other two - my vote is to play Colt and find out. What do we lose? We cannot score any less than with Jason.

Posted by: edeshields | December 2, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

4th are you going to compete in a hot dog eating contest at a Caps game?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | December 2, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

First, the defense has got to be more effective in creating turnovers and short fields.

The only guy who can make a potential difference is Jason Taylor. He's been a game changer before, so its time to let him go for it now.+++

Posted by: zcezcest1

Okay, part one is spot on. Need more turnovers, short field, taking advantage. Easy scores.

But part two...The ONLY GUY who can make a potential difference is Jason Taylor? What, you think he's been holding back? Trying NOT to sack the passer or stack up runners? Or the redskins haven't let him "go for it?"

He's done. Because he's 6'6" he can occasionally jump up and block a pass, but he can't pass rush, or defend the run.

Taylor is no longer a game changer. Be nice if the DBs held on to an intercept..or someone stripped the ball...or made a sack. But Taylor? Please.

Maybe one game, he'll get a good matchup and a sack or two--but Parcells hornswaggled Cerrato--shocker.


Posted by: TheCork | December 2, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Even when Campbell has time, he FINDS a way to get hurried or sacked. He can't find an open man to save his life, no matter how open they are. No team gets great without a great o-line I agree. But without a QB commanding respect by completing a 15 yard pass, fah get about it! The O-line won't matter until thed QB plays better.

Posted by: tdpillo123 | December 2, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Cork, Taylor has been hurting all year. Not clear if he still is or all the way back. But the Skins haven't had Taylor line up all game at RDE and see if he has the ability to impact a game.

Not saying he will have the impact, but the guy there now doesn't. So take the chance that he comes up big. No downside.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 2, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

I agree. And I didn't forget about Monk or Clark. Just pointing out that with good protection, a QB gets time to see the whole field, and hit receivers who are - at best - journeymen (a euphemism for "scrubs").

Watching the Giants proves this; they didn't suddenly hit a jackpot of all-world WRs. They have Plaxico (or did) and Amani Toomer (a solid vet), but the reason guys like Steve Smith, David Tyree, Domenik Hixon, Sinorice Moss, and even Madison Hedgeocock catch balls is that the G-Men's o-line gives Eli Manning enough time to survey the field, look for WRs who have "comeback," or cut off their route, text message his wife, order a pizza for halftime, check his financial portfolio, and THEN release the football.

Until the Redskins have an o-line like that again, they won't present a serious challenge to New York in the NFC East.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | December 2, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

We talkin' bout Brooks Durant?! Brooks Durant?!

Brooks Durant hated Mexicans! And he was half-Mexican! ...And he hated irony...

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 2, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Maybe. I called because I heard (while working so wasn't really paying attention) you win tix if you win the Hot Dog Eating contest. So, I automatically assumed Redskins (Red Zebra and all that) tix.

I knew nothing about a Caps Game until they put me on the radio. I have to wait for someone to call me. I still don't know what the tix are for. If I find out they're for Caps tickets and not against the protective barrier, I may back out. Or just enjoy a free dinner because I know I won't win.......

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 2, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

LH - I meant to ask you, didn't you call in one of those shows last week? I forgot who it was with, but it sounded like you, though......

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 2, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Hey - we can beat NY. We haven't yet. And we may not, but we can.

We can beat anyone in the league. I'm serious. We coulda last year too, we just didn't.

A whole lot of coulda shoulda woulda, but unless you know you can, you can't.

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 2, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

I got on once in late this summer. They keep callers on hold too long.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | December 2, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

It's Jason Campbell. Look I'm not bashing the guy I actually support him and wish and want him to be great. With that being sad It has to be on him when....

He knows the OL Deficiencies...

He knows coach is new and (to me) some of his plays should be scraped. JZ quick hit/slants plays are garbarge (unless of course they aren't being executed well, could be the case, but they look like crap)...

He knows he only has 3 receivers to hit (Moss, Cooley, Sellars)

So, I feel he need to be able to understand his situation prior to stepping to the line and hiking the ball and go out there and throw the freaking football to somebody, and connect at all expense (Int, pick 6 whatever). It may end up a 75 yd TD.

Posted by: 15600_sknfan | December 2, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

See... we have to make plans. But first we need to make plans for our plans. And then we'll plan the plan's planny plan and...

..are you getting this? Good 'cause I'm completely confused.

JUST WIN!!

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 2, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

4-12,
I bet my FF stinks up the joint worse than yours.

And 4th, what we need is less cowbell and more sidekick...wowwwwwwwww!

Posted by: _Stumped_1 | December 2, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Calling in Radio shows is exactly like dating the 'hot chick' at school...

You're alone in your boxers talking to a guy.

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 2, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

To the motto "Just Win!," I would add, "Just Block!"

I think Buges does a good job of coaching the line, but he can't do their work for them on Sunday. All this crap I've heard lately about how "this guy can run block but he can't pass block," or vice-versa makes me shake my head.

You block, period, whether it's a pass or a run. If you can't, then you're in the wrong line of work.

Seems to me Jacoby, Grimm, Lachey, May, Bostic, Starke, et al, weren't "specialists" in either run blocking or pass blocking, they simply beat their guy more times than not, and that's what good o-linemen are supposed to do.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | December 2, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Calling in Radio shows is exactly like dating the 'hot chick' at school...

You're alone in your boxers talking to a guy.


Posted by: DikShuttle | December 2, 2008 5:40 PM

Sort of like posting on blog.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | December 2, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

I envision the day we all come to rue ... Brooks Durant coming into FedEx to DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!

Posted by: dcsween | December 2, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

All this Reaper Raisin' has me reminiscing over Lenny Bias!

Kinda similar in that 'taken before his time' tragedy.

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 2, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

I went to high school with Len Bias. Len Bias was a complete moron (seriously) who made an incredibly bad decision and wasted the god given physical talents he was given. While it was unfortunate what happened to him, there is no way you can compare his death to that of Sean Taylor. Sean was taken, Bias left of his own accord.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | December 2, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

I envision the day we all come to rue ... Brooks Durant coming into FedEx to DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!

Posted by: dcsween | December 2, 2008 5:47 PM

Yup! But I was looking forward to the day when Frost would come to FedEx and cook me up a big pot of lamb shanks.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | December 2, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe no one has blamed George W Bush yet for the Redskins' troubles.

Posted by: SirAnonymoustheGreat | December 2, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Hand, if only, IF ONLY I could wear my boxers to work... lol.

Mr. Skin - I want to throttle Jansen w/ my bear hands. I actually have bear hands, long nails, hairy, the whole bit.

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 2, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, Sean Taylor was also a fool ... but a sentimental stubborn one who refused to be chased out of the old hood after fame and fortune arrived. In other words a good man who did not understand his limitations.

Len Bias was young idiot who torn down a highly, nationally ranked, college football program.

Big difference. Huge.

Posted by: periculum | December 2, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

t_e_, its perfectly fine to say "I don't get it."

Posted by: dcsween | December 2, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Sean was taken, Bias left of his own accord.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | December 2, 2008 5:49 PM

Aloha. That was kind of the way I was thinking about it, but couldn't speak from personal experience.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | December 2, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

which major football team did Lennie Bias single-handedly destroy?

Posted by: SirAnonymoustheGreat | December 2, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

t_e_, its perfectly fine to say "I don't get it."

Posted by: dcsween | December 2, 2008 5:53 PM

But I did get it. Or I thought I got it. Maybe it's funny in more than one way? I didn't ROFL, but I smiled.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | December 2, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Let's see, this line has one of the NFL's leading rushers averaging almost 5 a carry. The only time he doesn't make 100 is when the other team gets a lead of more than touchdown + field goal over the 'Skins. At that point Zorn, perhaps mistakenly, gives up on the run and goes to the air. This is when they falter because the other teams now knows their tendencies, when to blitz, who to double cover etc. Add severe injuries to Portis and Betts to the equation? A Recipe for disaster.

This was clearly demonstrated when Zorn pulled a gadget out in the end around to Devin Thomas who scored. The other team, one of the best defenses this year, was completely unprepared for it.

So, its not the line. Its not Campbell. Zorn's play calling does limit game killing mistakes on the offensive side of the ball even if they under score. He can't be called too conservative because he does go to the pass.

So ... maybe its a combination of all the components misfiring, ending up exposing weakness and tendencies. The weakness: a dearth of reliable wide receivers who can run a pattern, get open, and block. The tendency: to follow the same path week-after-week because of the weakness.

Posted by: periculum | December 2, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

We talkin' bout Brooks Durant?! Brooks Durant?!

Brooks Durant hated Mexicans! And he was half-Mexican! ...And he hated irony...

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 2, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

I know Bill Brasky!!

Posted by: TDawg1 | December 2, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse


Fine, its a football blog. Basketball ...
I remember the day. The coach, the chancellor, the sports director all replaced.
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which major football team did Lennie Bias single-handedly destroy?

Posted by: SirAnonymoustheGreat | December 2, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: periculum | December 2, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Hawaii, they all make dumb decisions at that age - how about chasing down guys who stole ATVs from you... or living in a non-secure community as a multi millionaire...

Plenty of blame over the years.

Posted by: DikShuttle | December 2, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

periculum, ST did not live in his old "hood." He was killed by men who drove tens of miles to get to his home - one or two of whom had previously benefited from his hospitality. Even if he did live in the hood, it's not as if he was out on a street corner or walking through a club with a pistol when he was killed. He was at home in his bed with his family.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | December 2, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Stop blaming the crime victim. ST was not required to buy more home than he needed or pay extra for the privilege of living behind a wall. He should have been able to live whereever he chose without thieves trying to take what he had.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | December 2, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Len Bias was only the last in a long and heralded line of cocaine cowboys who played at College Park in the 70s and 80s. I'm sure they were not the only program with this issue, but if anything, Bias' death lead to the clean up the program after the Bob Wade recruiting debacle delay.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | December 2, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Len Bias was a tragedy. Too many kids -- and Bias was a kid -- do really stupid things. Many, perhaps most, of us do something that could kill us, but luck was on our side.

Whether its driving drunk or drag racing or jumping off a bridge on a dare or kayaking a river beyond the skill level.

Bias is just one of millions(?) of Americans who have done coke. Stupid? Yes. But its still tragic.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 2, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

I LOVE EVERYONE.

Posted by: Daggarforracialjustice | December 2, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

I just heard on the local news that Plax got suspended for the rest of the year by the NY Giants

Posted by: captjim | December 2, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

ESPN is reporting it as well:http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3738905

Posted by: captjim | December 2, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Cork, Taylor has been hurting all year. Not clear if he still is or all the way back. But the Skins haven't had Taylor line up all game at RDE and see if he has the ability to impact a game.

Not saying he will have the impact, but the guy there now doesn't. So take the chance that he comes up big. No downside.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 2, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Zeke-
I am not sure what you mean by no downside. It seems like a #2 and a #6 are the downside. But I guess since you never can get those back there is no downside at this point to letting him play?
Would you have him be a 3rd down guy or an every down guy? I have to believe he is fully healthy now, or if not as close as he is going to get ever.

Posted by: zornskins2 | December 2, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Plax is done for the year, and Pierce is in the NYPD's sights for obstruction.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | December 2, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

I LOVE EVERYONE

Posted by: Daggarforracialjustice | December 2, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Is it safe to come back yet or are some of us still calling for JZ and JC's heads?

Looking to focus on Baltimore...

Oh and did anyone mention that the Texans looked they were trying to steal our burgundy on burgundy unis last night with the red ones?

Posted by: suzannepdc | December 2, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Where's the "blame it on the rain" option?

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 2, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

I'm guessing you didn't add the "Blame Vinny Cerrato" option because that would draw 110% of the votes, right?

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | December 2, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

How can the NFL suspend players for a banned substance when said substance is not on the banned substance list?

There's a big players union lawsuit comin' on this one...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3740122

Posted by: captjim | December 2, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Suzanne, it's pure evil here in DC. One would think we are 2-10. Not to mention last season at this time we were 5-7.

Posted by: Lisa_R | December 2, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

The Texans' red-on-red uniforms last night answered the Skins' burgundy-on-burgundy challenge of "Who wants it more?"

"It" in this case being looking like a college team.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 2, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Zilla - 1
ugly unis - 0

Posted by: _Stumped_1 | December 2, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

The Ravens haven't won a nationally televised game since 2005 and we have averaged 8 points per game in our three losses this year on national TV. Redskins to the rescue!!! Ravens have won 6 of their last 7 and we've lost 3 out of 4. Something's gotta give.

Posted by: vegasskinsfan | December 2, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

How can the NFL suspend players for a banned substance when said substance is not on the banned substance list?

There's a big players union lawsuit comin' on this one...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3740122

Posted by: captjim

Because the company addes a product that on the list. The NFL policy states that the player is responsible for whatever the take. If a company doesn't list what in their product to me it's hard to blame a player.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | December 2, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Lisa - I got on the blog Sunday night and was frustrated by people's comments and then I read the Post on Monday on my way back here and could not believe the negative slant of the A1 article on the game - about having the playoff hopes washed away with the rain and making an issue out of the empty stadium at the end of the game - you know what? It was COLD and RAINY! Even if we were winning, most of those people would have left early.

So, I hope to look ahead to kicking some serious a$$ on Sunday night - to the hypocritical B'more Ravens (hey, our team was stolen from us, why shouldn't we do it to another city?)

Posted by: suzannepdc | December 2, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Zilla - 1
ugly unis - 0


My goal for the coming year is to become the Mr. Blackwell of pro football. Getting an early start.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 2, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

ya gotta buncha nonutins on dis blog --- the qb is the problem!

Posted by: bestmick1 | December 2, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

I kinda liked the all burgandy uniforms

Posted by: vegasskinsfan | December 2, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse


Hmmm so maybe Obama should send his kids to public school in Anacostia? Amounts to the same thing in a way ... once you get both celebrity and wealth things change even if you haven't. Its not about being "too good" for the old stomping grounds, in this case it was more about a reasonable amount of safety within your own home and on your own property. He had already seen some of what he was up against when he was a rookie and they stole his trucks.

Its still very, very sad and shocking that it did happen.

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Posted by: learnedhand1 | December 2, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Stop blaming the crime victim. ST was not required to buy more home than he needed or pay extra for the privilege of living behind a wall. He should have been able to live whereever he chose without thieves trying to take what he had.

Posted by: periculum | December 2, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

I like burgundy too.

So why is that we all drink beer when we watch the game?

Posted by: _Stumped_1 | December 2, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

My goal for the coming year is to become the Mr. Blackwell of pro football. Getting an early start.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 2, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse
********************************
Can you start on the matching Eagles/Seahawks uniforms? When they play each other, you can barely tell who is on what team! Thank you.

Posted by: suzannepdc | December 2, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the input, ice, but I've gotta believe that any court is going to toss the suspensions based on that?

Posted by: captjim | December 2, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Colt can't do better. They would have to do to Jason what they did to Ramsay, what the Eagles did to McNabb. Draft a QB in the 1st (preferable) or 2nd round. Then make him #3 for a year or two while he is tutored by Zorn and to some extent Collins. Make Collins QB coach when he retires.

Posted by: periculum | December 2, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

I think in 2009 the Seahawks and Eagles should play the entire regular season against each other, that way they can both go 8 and 8 and be happy.

Posted by: _Stumped_1 | December 2, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

I like burgundy too.

So why is that we all drink beer when we watch the game?

Posted by: _Stumped_1

You are leaving out the non drinkers.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | December 2, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse


In short Buggs was long gone. After the Pardee years. Seay, Garret, and Monk ... the Smurfs that was Joey T. Best OL in football but again a killer ground attack.

Schroder, Rypien benefit from guys like Clark, Monk and Sanders ... plus Clint Didier, Ernest Byner ... the wide-outs literally bled burgundy and gold as did Dexter Manley.

The guys Jason has really don't now do they?
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In short, guys like Joey T, Jay Schroeder (briefly), and Mark Rypien were able to make plays via the long ball to average WRs like Danny Buggs, Virgil Seay, Alvin Garrett.

Posted by: periculum | December 2, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

{hick}
Sorry about that jm, to the non-drinkers goes the gold.
{hick}

Posted by: _Stumped_1 | December 2, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

You know I'm a blue hen, but fluck Flacco.

Posted by: _Stumped_1 | December 2, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

_Stumped_1 you know I had to try and get people to take it easy up here. The last couple of days been ugly. I agree with Lisa you think this team was 2-10.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | December 2, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

I think in 2009 the Eagles and Bengals should play each other every week so they can both go undefeated at 0-0-16. The Dolphins would be pissed!!!

Posted by: vegasskinsfan | December 2, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Silver lining if the Redskins miss the playoffs: JLC will be "reassigned" off the 'skins "beat" that much sooner. Someday, it will happen. Please, let it be soon.

Posted by: hithere1 | December 2, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

jm,
As for me I'm just enjoying the ride. This team has been in constant turmoil, its a wonder that they could win 6 games this year. So they've already exceeded my expectations.

I wouldn't have anticipated a good start and then struggling down the stretch, but I guess with some many older lineman, it kind of makes sense.

Would love to see a little offense from them against jasno's team.

Posted by: _Stumped_1 | December 2, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Zornskins -- exactly what I meant with Jason Taylor. Whatever price we paid is sunk cost -- irrelevant to what we do with him.

I'd play him every down. He's one year (and a few notable injuries) from having been a game changing kind of player. If (big if) he can return to form, he can help this team in one of its biggest areas of weakness.

I have a simple way to view this:
Is Andre Carter the answer for us at RDE? No
Is Jason Taylor the answer for us at RDE? Maybe

Go with the maybe.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 2, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Okay name the best team that Balimore has beaten this year:

Miami.

(feel better?)

Posted by: _Stumped_1 | December 2, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Hey! You cut that out. We're 7-5 same as you are. AND we THRASHED* the Rams.

*I know 16-12 isn't really a thrashing but at least they never scored a TD against us....

Posted by: Redcoat | December 2, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

In short Buggs was long gone. After the Pardee years. Seay, Garret, and Monk ... the Smurfs that was Joey T. Best OL in football but again a killer ground attack.

Schroder, Rypien benefit from guys like Clark, Monk and Sanders ... plus Clint Didier, Ernest Byner ... the wide-outs literally bled burgundy and gold as did Dexter Manley.

The guys Jason has really don't now do they?

Posted by: periculum | December 2, 2008 7:18 PM | __________________________________________

My original post included Joey T, who most certainly DID throw to Danny Buggs.

Secondly, my follow-up post explained that I didn't list primary/HOF receivers for a reason.

If some people on here would read for content instead of thinking they have a "gotcha" moment, they'd spend less time looking like impotent little weasels.

:)

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | December 2, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Look I loved Buggs - I was a kid. He wore number 88 and seemed related to buggs bunny; but the guy sucked. Joey T could get him the ball but he would drop it. Wide open but couldn't catch a cold. By the way those 'skins couldn't sniff 7-5.

Posted by: bangkokben | December 2, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

1,2,3, steps back know who the open recevier is, and where he is going to be just by a quick glance and BAM!!! fire that cannon. Does this describe Jason "Mr. Hesitation" Campbell. Absolutely not. I am not saying he will never get to this point, but right now he is the problem.

Posted by: Brutus2 | December 2, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Oh and did anyone mention that the Texans looked they were trying to steal our burgundy on burgundy unis last night with the red ones?

Posted by: suzannepdc | December 2, 2008 6:42 PM

No. Burgundy and burgundy is one thing, but these guys looked like raspberry popsicles. (Got that from Wilbon tonight on PTI).

Posted by: talent_evaluator | December 2, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse

LMAO of Red. My manager is a Dolphins fan and I clown him every day.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | December 2, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Coat,
Get it together man, didn't you see I ended with a question mark?

(Living in the shadow of 0-16 must be tough, boy talk about PTSD)

Posted by: _Stumped_1 | December 2, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

1,2,3,4,5, Randel el is out running the coverage, 6,7,steps. Wait and stair him down becuase I have to be sure he is really that open. Now the coverage has time to adjust,and the giants d-line is brreathing down my back so of course my pass is poorly thrown and incoplete. Jason "Mr. Hesitation" Campbell screwed us on a play that could have easily gotton back into sundays game.

Posted by: Brutus2 | December 2, 2008 8:30 PM | Report abuse

But seriously, what the big tuna has done with Miami is miraculous.

Trading Jason Taylor to the Redskins is looking like a real sharp move...what did Snyder give up again?

Nevermind, I probably don't want to know.

Posted by: _Stumped_1 | December 2, 2008 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Most confusing football story of the day:

—Six players were suspended for four games without pay by the NFL on Tuesday for violating the league’s anti-doping policy. The suspended players were running back Deuce McAllister and defensive linemen Charles Grant and Will Smith of New Orleans; defensive linemen Kevin and Pat Williams of Minnesota; and long snapper Bryan Pittman of Houston.

---- my question ----
Why is a long snapper in there?

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 2, 2008 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who thinks Campbell is the problem doesn't now jack about football. "Put the rookies in (WRs and QB) we won't do any worse in scoring." Yeah. That's if your scoring for the opposition. Wrong routes = turnovers.

This offense had to play perfect to get to four and one and win close games. Now that they're not perfect they can't match up to good defenses but the defense can keep them in the game if they keep the ball. Of the remaining games all are winable even with this offense.

But in order for the skins to beat teams like the Ravens and Eagles, the defense has to stop 3rd downs and the offense has to win time of possession.

It's time to commit to the run and rotate backs if need be, dink and dunk to the backs and tight ends, and then max protect for the three to five shots down field. It won't be pretty but it will get the right results with right execution. It is suitable for the current personel.

Posted by: bangkokben | December 2, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

As long as Danny Boy is the owner of the Deadskins the team will never make it to the second round of the playoffs. With Vinny the Gerbil handling player personnel the Deadskins will never be an elite team or a very good team. An average team is the best you Deadskin fans can hope for.

You all blame JLC for not sugarcoating things and going long with Deadskin party line. Take off the rose colored glasses ladies and smell your panties the Deadskins just suck. JLC is telling it like it is. Blame Snyder and Cerrato. And you will really like the new stadium in DC. I have seen the plans for cost estimates. Just bend over when Danny Boy hits you hard and deep with those seat licenses. I am sure ladies your panties will be wet in anticipation of a good screwing by Danny Boy. Supply your own lube.

Posted by: omarthetentmaker | December 2, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

But seriously, what the big tuna has done with Miami is miraculous.

Trading Jason Taylor to the Redskins is looking like a real sharp move...what did Snyder give up again?

Nevermind, I probably don't want to know.

Posted by: _Stumped_1 | December 2, 2008 8:30 PM | Report abuse

It's all good stumped, I like to feign indignation now and again but secretly, I'm enjoying this season like heck just because it was so totally unexpected.

I can never be 'fond' of Parcells after what he's done to the Fins over the years at other teams, but at least I can enjoy what he's doing for us now. The biggest thing he brought in? Sparano, without a doubt. The guy is a chip off the Parcells block.

All Snyder and Vinny gave up for Jason Taylor was a 2nd, a 5th, and their dignity*. Oh, and $8.5 million.

... and CUE CorkCzar!!

*granted, that isn't much in their case....

Here's a bit of pure speculation for you. When the Grrls make the playoffs (I think they will) but then screw-up - again - do you think Jerrah will go out and hire Spagnuolo or McDaniels? I think Spags because then he can pay off Garrett to keep him happy... And I think Spags would take the job.

Posted by: Redcoat | December 2, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Bankokben,
Anyone who doen not realize Campbell is holding on to the ball too long and hesitating before throwing has either not seen or forgotten what makes a great quterback. The ability to quickly read a defence and get the ball out. Maybe Campbell still needs time to learn zorns offence, or maybe he has been overcoached wich is making him second guess himself. But right now campbell is the problem, but it is a problem that can hopefully be fixed.

Posted by: Brutus2 | December 2, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

WOW! What a fun two days this place has been. Looks like everyone is to blame...


On other Skins related news that made me chuckle:


Frost was so bad the Packers preferred to find someone off the street rather than endure four more games of shanks and other assorted follies.

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20081202/PKR07/81202157/1058/PKR01

Posted by: Curzon417 | December 2, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of suspensions and other turmoil, can we get a hip-hip for having a drama-free team during a major transition?

Look at the rest of the NFC East:

* The Giants have the whole Burress situation, with a side helping of Pierce possibly being implicated as well. Not to mention Burress' suspension a couple of weeks back.

* The Eagles benched McNabb, then brought him back. Big brouhaha. Also the whole world found out that McNabb didn't know a pretty basic rule about pro football.

* The Cowboys have Owens and all that that entails. And there was the whole Adam "(Don't Call Me) Pacman" Jones situation.


We may have our own problems, but at least they're not due to guys being knuckleheads or locker room divas. When coaches like Joe Gibbs choose players who are of good character, this is why. I'm sure Zorn will continue in the same fashion.

Posted by: freakzilla | December 2, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Later this year when we play a team with a weak defence, Campbell will shine again becuase he will have time to second guess and stair down his reciever and throw the ball. But to beat a great defence, you must get the ball out fast. To blame the o-line for campbell getting sacked after standing in the pockett for 4 seconds is ridiculous. until campbell learns to get the ball out quickly this offence will never be great, unless we somehow develop the greatest o-line in history that gives him all the time he needs.

Posted by: Brutus2 | December 2, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

So I guess we should put you down as a "don't know" then Brutus2?

Posted by: Redcoat | December 2, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Brutus,

I didn't say Campbell was a great qb or that he's not holding on to the ball too long. Ever since his security blanket (Chris Samuels) has been gimpy, the offense has tanked. Nonetheless he's still the best tackle the 'skins have.

Back on track, I would guess that the Giants defense has made at least eight qbs look hesitant and hold the ball too long this year. The only one that looked good was Derek Anderson. Do you want him? He looked pretty sh!tty against the 'skins.

Again, now that the rookies are playing more you get wrong routes. Then the qb either throws where it is suppose to go and get a pick six or hold on to it a bit longer for the three and out. I guess you'd prefer the pick six.

Posted by: bangkokben | December 2, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat,
I hate to pinpoint anyone player as a problem on a team sport but if I had to then you could put me down for blaming campbell. But I do think he can improve, so I am not calling for him to be benched or anything, just want to see him stop hesitating and throw that bal like a hot potato. Might throw a few picks but he will get used to throwing quickly and it will help him in the liong run.

Posted by: Brutus2 | December 2, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

WOW! What a fun two days this place has been. Looks like everyone is to blame...

Posted by: Curzon417 | December 2, 2008 8:53 PM

Not everyone. So far, you're off the hook, unless you have something you want to tell us.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | December 2, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Underthrowing a wide open randel el had nothing to do with a bad route or rookie receivers, it was campbell hesitating and throwing the ball too late.

Posted by: Brutus2 | December 2, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Look I loved Buggs - I was a kid. He wore number 88 and seemed related to buggs bunny; but the guy sucked. Joey T could get him the ball but he would drop it. Wide open but couldn't catch a cold. By the way those 'skins couldn't sniff 7-5.

Posted by: bangkokben | December 2, 2008 8:18 PM |
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The '79 Redskins of Joey T and Danny Buggs not only sniffed 7-5 (at this same point in the season, they were 8-4), they finished 10-6.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | December 2, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

As long as Danny Boy is the owner of the Deadskins the team will never make it to the second round of the playoffs. With Vinny the Gerbil handling player personnel the Deadskins will never be an elite team or a very good team. An average team is the best you Deadskin fans can hope for.

You all blame JLC for not sugarcoating things and going long with Deadskin party line. Take off the rose colored glasses ladies and smell your panties the Deadskins just suck. JLC is telling it like it is. Blame Snyder and Cerrato. And you will really like the new stadium in DC. I have seen the plans for cost estimates. Just bend over when Danny Boy hits you hard and deep with those seat licenses. I am sure ladies your panties will be wet in anticipation of a good screwing by Danny Boy. Supply your own lube.

Posted by: omarthetentmaker | December 2, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse


Wow, another Jack A$$ to scroll past.

Posted by: cosomfla | December 2, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Of course I will be pleading the fifth...

Posted by: Curzon417 | December 2, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Brutus,

Cause and effect. In a bubble one thing wouldn't have anything to do with other. But perhaps it was the rain or the fact the guys ran the wrong routes earlier. Maybe Randel El ran the wrong rout - I doubt it - but if your premise (Campbell staring down his receivers) is correct, how does he miss that throw?

Posted by: bangkokben | December 2, 2008 9:18 PM | Report abuse

And all Deadskin fans share the blame. You put up with Snyder and Vinny the Gerbil and their crap.

Only thing Danny Boy really cares about is winning not winning in the NFL but winning all the way to the bank with what you idiots shell out for tickets and parking at Deadex Field. Obviously Danny Boy doesnt learn from his mistakes so you girls will have to tolerate never winning the NFC East again or making out of the first round of the playoffs.

Campbell is a good quarterback but he will never have the talent and leadership abilities of a slightly above average o the mouth of ND Theisman.

Zorn will be canned in February,

Posted by: omarthetentmaker | December 2, 2008 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Underthrowing a wide open randel el had nothing to do with a bad route or rookie receivers, it was campbell hesitating and throwing the ball too late.

Posted by: Brutus2 | December 2, 2008 9:14 PM

Brutus,

Cool your jets. How many receivers has he hit in the hands who dropped the ball? Kelly, Randle El, Cooley (about a thousand times this year), Sellers, Moss (about three times a game).

Posted by: talent_evaluator | December 2, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Football isn't as complicated as some people make it out to be.

Some coaches and players over-think everything. I think the world of MOST NFL players, because they are gifted athletes who are very competitive.

But most of 'em ain't Rhodes scholars.

Which is why so many of them major in "health," "social services," "nutrition," or "physical education" in college.

My point(s) earlier was simply that an o-line that protects well on running AND passing plays will make even mediocre QBs, WRs, & TEs look good.

The irony here is that the Redskins (imho) have talented a QB, good WRs and very good TE, but the pass protection blows.

And until that is addressed, this team is going to struggle.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | December 2, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Bankokben,
I DVR'd the game and campbell did stare down randel el, he just waited a second to long to throw wich allowed the defence time to get under the ball, and the rain may have been a factor becuase that ball was poorly thrown. I take it you think the WR are the reason are o is not scoring any points.

Posted by: Brutus2 | December 2, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Brutus,

Cool your jets. How many receivers has he hit in the hands who dropped the ball? Kelly, Randle El, Cooley (about a thousand times this year), Sellers, Moss (about three times a game).

Posted by: talent_evaluator | December 2, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse
very true

Posted by: Brutus2 | December 2, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Redskin. You are right. That was a crushing season losing to Dallas in the last game of the season from a incredulous comeback and dare I say scoreboard shenanigans to go from possibly winning the division to not even making a wild-card.

Somehow, I don't rember Buggs being on that team but he apparently started every game and had 46 receptions for 631 yards and one TD. It was his last - and most productive - season in the NFL. He then went to Canada and later the USFL.

Posted by: bangkokben | December 2, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Brutus,

I actually think it is the game planning - not necessarily the play calling. I think the offensive staff has not given the line and qb a chance to win by going with their plan - more four and five wr sets. The 'skins would beat the same average secondaries (Giants and Cowboys) with max protect schemes in the past with basically this same group.

Posted by: bangkokben | December 2, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse


Larry Brown NFL MVP

Yr Gm att/rec yards avg TD
1972 12 285 1,216 4.3 8
32 473 14.8 4

Clinton Portis

Yr Gm att/rec
2008 12 255 1,228 4.8 7
23 187 7.0 0

Posted by: periculum | December 2, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Bank

I'd have to side with Brutus..... each of you have great points, however, Soups is holding on to the ball too long on routes longer than 10yds. This is a timing offense, not throwing to a "spot" like Saunders offense. Give him another year and he'll be fine. Samuels is gimpy and it hurts. Zornie better roll soups out this week to keep the D guessing. Surprised we didn't see any of that against the G-men....

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | December 2, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

*** FF ***

The suspensions are in and the two teams that got hit are the Saints and Vikes, especially on defense, where both teams lost 2 guys on their DL.

So who benefits in the FF playoffs?

First and most importantly to me, Forrest (8-5 record). He has Roddy White and its not like the Saints had much 'd' to start with. So Forrest gets a major boost vs me.

But its 4th (8-5) that gets the biggest boost. He has Calvin Johnson, and with Minny's DTs out of the way, Calvin could have a big day. Plus 4th has Michael Turner going against NO. Turner had a solid day against the Saints before, but with half the NO d-line gone, it could be epic.

Me (9-4) and Zornskins (11-2) get nothing.

Interestingly (at least to me), the 4 teams in the playoffs ranked 1st, 4th, 7th and 9th in points scored. But the 7th and 9th teams will have a better shot with the benefit of the suspensions.

*** End FF ***

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 2, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

*** FF
Wait, is it playoff time already?
Or is this only for the second, but allegedly not inferior, league?

Gotta agree on the randomness of the whole thing...I went to the nfl pre-game chat and some of these guys are "should I start LT or Brandon Jacobs", while I'm choosing between BenJarvus Green-Ellis and someone named "Ham Sandwich"
*** End FF

Posted by: daggar | December 2, 2008 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Campbell plays decent when provoked. I remember Sonny and others mentioning that he he got pissed off after the firt Giants game and when he was getting smacked around by Nawlins. He needs to get pissed and stay at a slow burn the final four games. With a contract on the line, its time for him to get personal! We need a locker room leader that can get in his face and call him out. Then he will step up and make some plays!

Jim Zorn playcalls better when he is provoked, like after the Giants game defeat, when people were calling for Bill Cowher, and on susequent weeks Zorn was calling passes on fourth down plays instead of portis up the gut--like he has recently. Actually the winning made him go conservative.

The offensive line played waaaay better after Clinton called them out in his interview. Said he could be all world behind a better line and suddenly the blocks were there. If Jansen starts in Balmer, then Heyer should pack his bags. If your not better than what John Jansen has shown recently, you are not even back-up level.

Its time to hit this old tired crapper of a team with cattle prod, on full juice.

Posted by: DownTownClown | December 2, 2008 11:15 PM | Report abuse

*** FF ***

daggar -- can totally relate. In a 16 team league, the pickins can get rather slim. The top RB available in our league is correll buckhalter and he's injured and facing the jints. in other words, if Ham Sandwich is facing the Bengals, he's gonna start.

And yes, our league of anons is done with the regular season and the playoffs are upon us.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 2, 2008 11:42 PM | Report abuse

*** FF
Ha! I just swapped BenJarvus for Correll.
A bold move, I know. What can I say, I love livin' on the edge.


*** end FF

Posted by: daggar | December 3, 2008 12:01 AM | Report abuse

*** FF ***

Daggar, you do live on that edge!!

***

Posted by: zcezcest1 | December 3, 2008 2:46 AM | Report abuse

Blame the Pakistanis. Wait a second, it's a quality problem - blame China. Wait another second, it's a management problem - blame the Big 3 automakers. Wait a few more seconds, it's a living-in-denial problem - blame the White House. But wait longer still, it's a plummeting hopes and shrinking prospects problem - blame Congress. Whoever is to blame, fix that stinkin' offense!

Posted by: JHG_sec405 | December 3, 2008 5:09 AM | Report abuse

For those of you b*tchin' to bench JC, read Wise's column today.

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 3, 2008 6:08 AM | Report abuse

THEY ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE

Posted by: fireballhank | December 3, 2008 6:40 AM | Report abuse

Nice article by Wise today. The picture of Jackie is just crushing. She just looks like she is still in so much pain.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | December 3, 2008 7:38 AM | Report abuse

I'm not sure that's something you get over completely, JM. Hope I never know first hand...

Hopefully the blog will take a more positive tone today. Yesterday was just insufferable...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 3, 2008 7:44 AM | Report abuse

No it not B. Time doesn't heal everything. It's been 2 years since my good friend died and I still have good and bad days. I really hope the blog takes a positive spin today as well.

JM

Posted by: icetotalpackage | December 3, 2008 7:46 AM | Report abuse

Well lets get the positive started:

Redskins 24
Ravens 17

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 3, 2008 7:49 AM | Report abuse

Skins 28
Ravens 14

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | December 3, 2008 7:52 AM | Report abuse

Wait a second. According to the Washington Post 'fans' are calling for Campbell's benching and want Todd Collin's to quarterback the team. Yet this poll says 90% of people think the major problem is something other than Jason Campbell. Guess that is not a convenient narrative for a story.

Posted by: Ehren | December 3, 2008 7:53 AM | Report abuse

I will abstain from predictions as every one I've made this season has turned out quite the opposite.

Anyone who is calling for JC to be benched for Todd Collins will not be getting a Christmas card from me this year.

Posted by: Original_etrod | December 3, 2008 7:59 AM | Report abuse

I'll bite...Skins win 17-14. Game winning touchdown comes on defense: none other than LaRon Landry in his brother's house. You heard it here first.

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 3, 2008 8:01 AM | Report abuse

Campbell will be fine.... I have no worries about that. He hit the open guys in the first 8 weeks. He wasn't very accurate last week, but he's played some pretty tough D's w/ edge rushers... Zorn needs to take the reins off of Betts and give him 15 carries or more if Portis is banged up. Let CP heal a little bit. Jansen can run block, sucks at pass blocking so get back to the run setting the pass.... We can win this game!!!!

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | December 3, 2008 8:03 AM | Report abuse

Another thing that's happening is our little smurgs are getting bumped in man press under w/ safety "shadowing" that's enough to throw off the rte. Put tana in motion more or in the slot and kelly outside... they won't "bump" him as much, so then he creates some separation... the "bump" on our smurfs is enough to get a mediocre pass rush to Campbell... half a second is everything in the passing game... I know b/c I'm "Kind of a Big Deal".... ( name that movie )

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | December 3, 2008 8:05 AM | Report abuse

I apologize for calling them "Smurgs" above and not "Smurfs"......

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | December 3, 2008 8:09 AM | Report abuse

MClegg, Anchorman, Legend of Ron Burgundy for the quote.

What did I win??

jm, deadlifts, hands facing the same way, or facing in opposite directions?

Offense will be able to pass this week, Ravens cb's aren't up to the task.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 3, 2008 8:20 AM | Report abuse

Beantown,

Great job.... I hope you're correct on the passing this week subject.. problem is if they "jam" Tana... that's a big problem that started with the Steelers... "Copy Cat" league...

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | December 3, 2008 8:22 AM | Report abuse

B I go facing in opposite directions. I also switch hands direction for each set.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | December 3, 2008 8:25 AM | Report abuse

Day 372 of Weekend at Bernies. Still cannot come to grips with Sean's death.I continue to wallow in self-pity over the death of a player I never even met or saw off-the-field. Hard to even get out of bed. Am starting a campaign to rename the stadium Taylor Field.

Okay, done with the self-mutilation for today. 8-8 looks pretty good considering how last off-season started. The 4-1 start got us all booking playoff tickets a bit prematurely, but now reality is setting in. This team has lots of problems, but it's better than what many of us thought after game 1. No reason to think that this team will better itself in the draft considering how it fared last year. If you're going to miss the playoffs, too bad you can't really miss the playoffs and get yourself in a great draft position. But oh well. Considering the beating Portis has taken (but man oh man what a year for him), the RB position could well become a concern next season, to go along with the O-line and lack of productive WR's, a sustained pass-rush or decent kicking/punting. Other than that, the future looks bright:0)

Posted by: 70Chip | December 3, 2008 8:28 AM | Report abuse

jm, thanks.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 3, 2008 8:33 AM | Report abuse

70chip,

We do not know how last years draft will turn out for another 2 years, that is how long it takes to evaluate.

There is no way this team finishes 8-8 they will be 9-7 at worst.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 3, 2008 8:37 AM | Report abuse

Respectfully disagree on the record, though you may well be correct on the draft. But you would concede the point that the majority of last year's picks have showed no real flashes of anything very special at all thus far....note I said the majority. There are exceptions.

But I just don't see how they pull out another win besides either the Niners or the Bengals; not both. Regardless of who you play, you have to be able to score more than 10 points to secure a win. The D is doing all it can, but even when it snags the occasional turnover, most times the O can't do a thing with it. Then presto...a bad punt gives the other team good field position and they're playing downhill. Eagles D and Ravens D will feast on the O's problems...and one of the other 2 dogs on the schedule will pull out a Rams-type upset.

Posted by: 70Chip | December 3, 2008 8:46 AM | Report abuse

There is no way this team finishes 8-8 they will be 9-7 at worst.

Ummm, 7-9 is technically the worst.
Which is at the upper end of many preseason predictions.
A win this weekend would cure a lot of confidence issues. It'd be really nice to have a dominant first quarter, score a couple of TDs, and make Joe Flacco beat us. One can dream, right?

Posted by: daggar | December 3, 2008 8:47 AM | Report abuse

Beep Beep!

Posted by: NCICURN | December 3, 2008 8:48 AM | Report abuse

I LOVE EVERYONE !!!!!!!

Posted by: Daggarforracialjustice | December 3, 2008 8:56 AM | Report abuse

Race is playing a role why Jansen isn't being benched. Asked yourself. How many black OL have the " BUG" man had over his 20+ years in coaching. Don't run from the race issue b/c it's there.

Posted by: Daggarforracialjustice | December 3, 2008 9:01 AM | Report abuse

It's probably been posted, but I'm gonna do it again anyway.

There should have been a few more options to choose from in this poll.

Like "all of the above" and some combinations of each of the ones listed would have been appropriate. As any with any football knowledge damn well knows, the issues the Skins are having are NOT centered around ANY ONE individual or single group of players.

Posted by: craig2 | December 3, 2008 9:15 AM | Report abuse


Cindy,

Could we please have an "all of the above" choice in the poll?
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The poll rated the offensive line as the big problem. A review of the NY Giants team does not show them to have high draft interior lineman picks, yet they have excellent performance.

Posted by: fwroy | December 3, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

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