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Catching Up with the Also-Rans

Let's take a moment to revisit the 10 guys the Redskins interviewed or considered when Joe Gibbs resigned as coach last January. The stock of some of these guys is on the rise, some is falling and some remains exactly where it was when back when Daniel Snyder and Vinny Cerrato were hiring.

So far, the early returns on the rookie head coach class of 2008 are pretty good, with Jim Zorn, John Harbaugh, Tony Sparano and Mike Smith leading their teams to 6-4 records and in the thick of the playoff hunt, even though several are working with rookie or young quarterbacks, having some personnel issues or were coming in as virtual unknowns.

The Skins interviewed or considered 10 guys with Zorn, Jim Fassel, Steve Spagnuolo and Ron Meeks the finalists. Some of these guys weren't interested in the job and others were deemed to simply not be the right choice. So what have the nine guys not named Zorn been up to?

The TV/Radio Guys

Jim Fassel
The Giants' former coach continues to broadcast Sunday night games for Westwood One Radio and lobby for a return to the NFL. He recently sent a letter to Al Davis expressing interest in the Raiders' job, according to published reports, but many execs say they would be very surprised if he got a gig (other than that one in Oakland, perhaps, because Al Davis is capable of anything).

Bill Cowher
The Steelers' Super Bowl winner continues to tell everyone and anyone that he is happy as an analyst with CBS and is not jonesing to get back into coaching. Still, the Cleveland Browns may try to tempt him with a truckload of cash and full control of coaching and personnel.

Steve Mariucci
The former San Francisco and Detroit coach is still doing his thing for the NFL Network. With a bunch of openings upcoming, including some in traditional West Coast Offense locales, he may get the bug again. He certainly had some interest in the Skins' job, from everything I heard last winter.

Current Coordinators/Coaches

Pete Carroll
USC is having a down year by its standards but remains a dominant program. Carroll is, by all accounts, a rock star in LA with the sick beach house to prove it. There is less stress and a shorter workday in the college game, with an incredible advantage in talent over the opposition most weeks. Barring some kind of huge scandal at the school I'm not sure he's going anywhere.

Jim Schwartz
The Tennessee Titans' defensive coordinator is probably going to get a head coaching gig this offseason. His defense has been tremendous, he's been a hot candidate for a few years and the Titans are flirting with a perfect season. The Georgetown product could have his pick of the openings this offseason.

Ron Meeks
The Indy defense has been horrendous much of the season (he is the defensive coordinator), and the Colts have already picked offensive guru Mike Caldwell to take over for head coach Tony Dungy if/when he retires. Meeks will get some consideration, but having the NFL's worst run defense is never a good thing.

Jim Mora Jr.
The Seahawks have fallen apart in Mike Holmgren's final season there and Mora will take over next season and will likely face a tough task as Arizona moves to the top of the NFC West. It's still a very weak division overall, though, and if Seattle gets healthy maybe they can get something done.

Steve Spagnuolo
This guy will be a head coach next year, bank on it. The Giants are the best team in football and his defense is dominant despite losing Pro Bowl end Osi Umenyiora for the season and despite the retirement of Hall of Fame end Mike Strahan. He will have his pick of jobs and stands to be the hottest prospect out there. If the Skins had been willing to release their coordinators from their contracts (Snyder hired his coordinators before the head coach) and hire Spagnuolo's picks for those jobs, he very well may have taken the job here, according to sources, but that was a major issue for him. He was the last candidate Snyder interviewed before going back to Zorn, his newly hired offensive coordinator at the time, and offering him the top job.

Gregg Williams
The only in-house candidate for the job, several teams contacted him immediately after the Skins let him go, the Cowboys among them. He chose a one-year deal with Jacksonville, leaving his options open for the future, and that has not worked out well. The Jaguars were considered by many to be a Super Bowl contender, but have fallen near the bottom of the AFC and the defense has struggled. Williams has a strong track record and if Dallas were to get rid of Wade Phillips and go with Jason Garrett as the head coach next year, Williams might resurface there as a defensive coordinator type. He and Garrett have ties tracing back to Princeton (Williams's son played ball there and Garrett did, too) and Williams also has been on owner Jerry Jones's wish list in the past. Williams knows the division very well and if Phillips were gone, someone else would have to run that defense. It would be interesting to have him on the other side of this rivalry.

By Jason La Canfora  |  November 19, 2008; 6:01 PM ET
 
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Comments

Oh isht!

BONG!

Posted by: bigmurf08 | November 19, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

I thought that Brian "I-Know-Quarterbacks" Billick was in the mix on some level as well...

Posted by: p1funk | November 19, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

OK this is something you should put up during the bye week.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | November 19, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

bye week? this is deep depths of offseason stuff ... june material. of course, after the new york football giants crash and burn over the next few weeks, spags will be keeping his day job.

Posted by: dcsween | November 19, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

I say that mostly b/c Lisa did not pick them to win it all. She picked ... wait for it ... Jacksonville! [On an unrelated note, I did too]

Posted by: dcsween | November 19, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

uh...fourth?

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | November 19, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Nope. Sixth. What's sixth get you?

Earmuffs!

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | November 19, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

I picked the Redskins to win it all.

Like I do every year.

Otherwise, what the heck is the point?

Posted by: freakzilla | November 19, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

xactly

Posted by: _Stumped_1 | November 19, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

If Seattle didn't play defense, how many plays would it take the Redskins to score?

And would they have to settle for a field goal?

Just wonderin'...

Zorn and Soup have to get back to trusting each other.

Posted by: RedskinWillie | November 19, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

What a post. I'm just wondering what the F the point was here. Is JLC saying Zorn sucks and Snyderatto should have hired somebody else?

I just don't get this guys train of thought sometimes... Actually, I don't get this guys train of thought MOST of the time.

Posted by: craig2 | November 19, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

I was truly wrong about Jacksonville.....truth be told I wavered between picking the Titans or Jax and chose Jax.

Posted by: Lisa_R | November 19, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

You guys will get your panties in a bunch over the dumbest crap. I think the post implies that Zorn was a good hire, heck says it in the opening paragraph.

Have their not been a lot of posts today? Check. Is a blog supposed to be occassional random musings. check. Do any of you even read other blogs, sports or otherwise?

Spagz would have been a good hire and fresh off SB had the clout to demand his own people. The skins, wisely, declined knowing Blache was the bomb. And is anyone going to argue the TN DC won't get a job next season.

Mellow out huh?

I still believe in Lisa's powers. She is almost always right.

Posted by: chrislarry | November 19, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Can't believe that this post is about coaches. What it should be about is how do we get the jints GM to replace vinny. That dude seems to know talent (not t_e)!

Posted by: Curzon417 | November 19, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

He's just second guessing...like the draft picks.
It's the #1 pastime up here.
You think the HC is exempt?

It's what we do.

Posted by: _Stumped_1 | November 19, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse

just curious but what exactly is the point of this? Who gives a pinch of poodle sh!t about everybody that was interviewed?

Posted by: Lacantwrite | November 19, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse

tenn WILL win the superbowl...
lisa, no we do not belee you!

Cl, chill sweens right. This June material. And you said it yourself like you said there been abundance of posts so what was the need? I am sure jasno gets paid by the word

Posted by: dealer1 | November 19, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

whateves, keep at it y'all, its so entertaining......

Posted by: chrislarry | November 19, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

it's JIM Caldwell from the Colts not Mike Caldwell. Jim Caldwell is the Associate Head Coach.

Posted by: Skins211 | November 19, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Pacman reinstated? The curtain draws back and Act III begins. Can't wait to see how this one ends.

Cue obligatory Only Because He's a Cowboy postage.

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 19, 2008 8:30 PM | Report abuse

If adam jones was not a cowgirl, he would not be given another chance!!!

How was that smack1?

Posted by: Curzon417 | November 19, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

I think Bum Phillips should get the Cowboys job next season.

Posted by: rickyroge | November 19, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Pacman reinstated? The curtain draws back and Act III begins. Can't wait to see how this one ends.

Cue obligatory Only Because He's a Cowboy postage.

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 19, 2008 8:30 PM | Report abuse

He's a piece of shti for his involvement in the shooting that resulted in a man being paralyzed. He shows no remorse and his behavior is only reinforced by being allowed to return. Screw the "only because he's a cowboy" crap on this one. If Goodell had any balls he'd ban him for good.

Posted by: cosomfla | November 19, 2008 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Also, my BIG prediction is about the New York football Giants crashing and burning before locking up the division, maybe even without getting a wild card spot.

Not sure how yet ... but that's my prediction ... maybe somebody important there gets injured or something like that ... sometimes that can be bad for a team ...

Myself, I'm still trying to figure out what went wrong in Jacksonville. They seemed positively Cards/Panthers-like going into the season, not like the Browns or Vikings.

Posted by: dcsween | November 19, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

If you're not in jail, you play. Screw this goodie two goodie two goodie goodie two shoes NFL Utopia Chairman Maodell is attempting to create.

I wish he were chairman of Major League Baseball, because a One-Strike law there would be awesome.

Okay, the one-strike part doesn't refer to Pacman, who has more strikes than your local Bowl-o-mat.

To hell with Goodell and his Disneyfication of the NFL.

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 19, 2008 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Oh, also, trying to help out a Somali buddy of mine ... anybody want to buy two million barrels of crude oil? I can get you a pretty good deal. He hasn't had much luck on craiglist.

Posted by: dcsween | November 19, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Try this...

www.osamaslist.com

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 19, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Disney?

The way some of the officiating has been called this season, I was thinking Ringling Brothers, Barnum & Bailey.

Posted by: dcsween | November 19, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Or, um, Ringling Brothers, Barnum & Bailey other than for the Cowboys.

Posted by: dcsween | November 19, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Smack - I totally disagree with you - working in the NFL is a privilege (as are most jobs when you think about it). He has to earn the right to be in the NFL - from his playing ability to the image it wants to portray. Like it or not, kids look up to and want to emulate the players. It's not like the guy has been arrested once. It has been continual and yes, he is the reason that someone is now paralyzed simply because he was the bouncer working the night that he decided to come in and show off. Sorry, but the guy is a major dirtbag and has gotten chances. He would no longer be my employee.

Posted by: suzannepdc | November 19, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

I need to enter my weekly picks. Can the Jets beat Titans in Tennessee? Can anybody beat the Titans?

Posted by: dcsween | November 19, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

sorry, there are too many random "he"s in that last point

Posted by: suzannepdc | November 19, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

and that would be last POST, even though I was trying to make a point! :)

Posted by: suzannepdc | November 19, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Wait, you weren't actually serious (or sober), were you SMACK?

Posted by: dcsween | November 19, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Cosmo and Suzanne, your objections are valid, for sure, but you are really objecting to his first reinstatement. I don't give a sjk if Pacman plays or if he disappears forever, but nobody should be suspended four weeks for getting drunk and busting up a Holiday Inn.

We have a judicial system charged with putting people away who can't conduct themselves in society. Fines and suspensions are for illegal hits and other game-related violations.

Riggo would have been suspended his entire career in this Nickelodeon Football League.

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 19, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Adam Jones was not even written up by the investigating cop at the Holiday Inn. Justice is blind, but justice is also deaf and dumb when it comes to NFL players. Still, its more important to punish the team who coddles the recidivists than the players themselves, esp. if the bad cop-bad cop campaign by the Commissioner is going to work.

Also, Miami is going to be New England in Miami, right?

Posted by: dcsween | November 19, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

Zorn being so transparent, we will get a whuppin' put on us in Seattle -- UNLESS we start Todd Collins in a game-time decision move. He knows more about the defense than JC does.

Posted by: Xlnt | November 19, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

I wasn't at the strip joint, so I don't know what happened for sure. But say I run a stop sign, and then you stab the crossing guard in the neck. Am I responsible for your stabbing him because my transgression created an atmosphere of chaos and lawlessness?

And please, not the "oh no, think of the children" argument. Unless you are going to home school them all somewhere in central Greenland, you've lost that battle already.

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 19, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

If I'm at a crosswalk with children, and you are driving my way, I'm going to think the children.

[The crossing guard can worry about the neck injury later ... after moving out of the way from the oncoming smack mobile.]

Wait, is the reason you ran the stop sign because someone was "making it rain"?

Posted by: dcsween | November 19, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

My understanding of the situation was that the reason I stabbed the crossing guard in the neck was to keep him from interfering with your inability to control the vehicle.

Posted by: dcsween | November 19, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

I don't give a sjk if Pacman plays or if he disappears forever, but nobody should be suspended four weeks for getting drunk and busting up a Holiday Inn.

We have a judicial system charged with putting people away who can't conduct themselves in society. Fines and suspensions are for illegal hits and other game-related violations.

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 19, 2008 9:39 PM


Smack, society has its own code of conduct policy, known as the law.

The NFL, a subset of society in which participation is voluntary, has an additional code of conduct to which its members are held.

A violation of one does not necessarily mean a violation of the other. This is a good thing. There are plenty of things that a player or coach could do that are not illegal but that would reflect poorly on the league.

Are you seriously arguing that the NFL should do away with its code of conduct as it relates to anything that does not transpire on the field?

Posted by: freakzilla | November 19, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Also, I thought the initial suspension was for failing to disclose repeated prior crimes to the team, rather than the raining adventure in the strip joint ... and that the reason for the most recent suspension was about the stuff in the hotel room.

The league is leaving the strip joint matter to the authorities. [Just like Vick got suspended for lying to the Commissioner rather than the dogfighting thing itself, which was the authorities. Just like the former President who got impeached for the perjury, rather than the underlying content of what he perjured about.]

Posted by: dcsween | November 19, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

My understanding is that there was a zero tolerance policy with Pacman - so, even though the person (who allegdly was the babysitter fired by the Cowboys) didn't file anything doesn't matter - he was supposed to stay out of trouble and didn't. If he was already suspeneded for an entire season, why would this punishment be less when it is a subsequent violation of the code of conduct? I am all for giving someone a chance and the benefit of the doubt, but this guy has had many, many chances. The NFL, like other companies and organizations, have the right to create conduct policies. If I missed work because I was getting arrested, I can assure that I would be fired.

Posted by: suzannepdc | November 19, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Freakzilla, I'm being a little extreme to make the point that expecting these guys to be paragons of virtue off the field is a little unrealistic. I guess if the delusional, puritanical commissioner is going to ban violent contact altogether, you might as well only employ players who are too cultivated and civilized (and clean and articulate?) to not want to do so anyway.

I'm sorry but your eyeblack has crossed the line into facepainting. You're grounded for two games. And one game for the droopy sock.

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 19, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

WaPo just posted a Jason Reid article for tomorrow's paper about how Malcolm Kelly is expected to be active and on the field this week.

Posted by: dcsween | November 19, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

I guess I don't see a downside to Goodell's strictness. Fear is a great motivator. If players are afraid of the ramifications of doing dumb things, they're less likely to do those things. This is good for everyone. Good for the player. Good for the player's team. Good for the fans. Good for the league.

If a player behaves like a reprobate, then it's bad for all of those parties.

Posted by: freakzilla | November 19, 2008 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm, had Ted Stevens won his election, he would have been allowed to be a Senator despite the seven felony convictions. What a fine example for our youngsters.

Posted by: SMACK1 | November 19, 2008 11:15 PM | Report abuse


Based on the reaction to it, I'd say the purpose of the column is to get people with nothing to add to RI to post anyway, griping, whining, condemning, shadenfreuding til the cows come home.

Because, when it's time for a new contract, Jasno goes to his bosses and says look at all the posts on RI!

Honest to God, you people who supposedly can't stand JLC are dumber than a box of hammers.

Posted by: TheCork | November 19, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

+++WaPo just posted a Jason Reid article for tomorrow's paper about how Malcolm Kelly is expected to be active and on the field this week.

Posted by: dcsween+++

Sween I put it on my screen and it ballooned up so big I had to shut down my computer

Posted by: TheCork | November 19, 2008 11:32 PM | Report abuse

Hey, I'm not going to defend a freakin' politician, but my understanding of Mr. Stevens' felony conviction is that he got some people to discount the work they were doing on his house.
Kinda sorta like the other senators who were shocked -- shocked, I say -- to find out that the interest rate their pal at Countrywide got for them were just a bit lower than the rate offered to you or me.
Next time you meet one, pat them on the head and say "good boy". Then give them a swift kick in the rear, 'cause you know they're humping the furniture when you're not at home.

Posted by: daggar | November 19, 2008 11:32 PM | Report abuse

What is really pathetic is that Pac Man really is not remorseful at all - except about repeatedly getting caught.

In an episode of Hard Knocks, Pac Man was notified that he had been reinstated by Goodell. In the next segment, he is fishing with Deion - Deion asks Pac Man if had written Goodell a "thank you" note. Pac Man replied "no, why would I do that? I told him thank you." And kind of sneered when he made the comment.

Posted by: Lisa_R | November 20, 2008 12:34 AM | Report abuse

This is pretty amazing...20 skins in the pro bowl? Haha, keep it up!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/11/19/redskins.voting.ap/index.html

Posted by: hailbg | November 20, 2008 6:05 AM | Report abuse

Leigh Torrence: The Story that the Post Will Never Let Die!

So, now Jason Reid is beating this dead horse in today's print edition. It turns out that not only was Leigh Torrence more valuable than Tryon, but also Malcolm Kelly:


"Vinny Cerrato, the team's executive vice president of football operations, felt so strongly about the potential contribution Kelly could make in the final six games that the Redskins released productive nickel cornerback Leigh Torrence instead of assigning Kelly to season-ending injured reserve -- a move that was even considered before the season -- when they signed free agent cornerback DeAngelo Hall earlier this month."

The reason this non-event story has legs, is that Jasno/Jason can make this claim about every other player on the roster: "The Redskins didn't release Chad Rinehart..." "The Redskins didn't release Alfred Fincher..."

I'm not a WaPo journalist genius, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express once and I don't understand the logic that relates signing a sixth CB to putting a healthy second-round draft pick in a position of need on IR. It just seems to me that when you have five CBs, add one, then you have to subtract one to get back to five.

And, by the way, where was it reported that Vinnie Cerrato, not Jim Zorn, made this decision? Did Jason get that in the bathroom stall at Redskins Park, or off the airwaves from B. Mitch, V. Cerrato, or R. Walker?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 20, 2008 6:16 AM | Report abuse

Nice article by Reid. Read the story on Zorn talking with the team about the Reaper. Man it still stings.

JM220

Posted by: icetotalpackage | November 20, 2008 7:33 AM | Report abuse

Sween I put it on my screen and it ballooned up so big I had to shut down my computer

Posted by: TheCork | November 19, 2008 11:32 PM

TheCork is Mr. Electrons. Even with his computer shut down, he's still able to post. How's the guy do it?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 20, 2008 7:42 AM | Report abuse

talent_evaluator | November 20, 2008 6:16 AM

see

TheCork | November 19, 2008 11:30 PM

Posted by: dcsween | November 20, 2008 7:45 AM | Report abuse

Honest to God, you people who supposedly can't stand JLC are dumber than a box of hammers.

Posted by: TheCork | November 19, 2008 11:30 P

dcsween--I always subscribed to the maxim that I learned studying economics, "De gustibus non est disputantum." I don't know why we learned it in Latin, but then economics is Greek to most people anyway.

So, where I learned "there's no arguing about tastes" Corkczar would substitute "If you don't share my tastes, you're a tool." Maybe that's a czar's prerogative?

Anyway, my beef this moment is not with JLC, but with the Sourcerer's Apprentice, Jason Reid, who's trying to fan the dying Leigh Torrence embers.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 20, 2008 8:01 AM | Report abuse

Leigh Torrence=Power Rankings

The seahawks just put Pat Kerney on IR, which, while I hate to see guys get injured, its part of the game. Kerney ate the Redskins up last time they played.

Good news about Kelly, I'm incredibly hopeful that he can remain healthy for the rest of the year.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | November 20, 2008 8:19 AM | Report abuse

Beantown Greg's view: Leigh Torrence=Power Rankings

WaPo's view: Leigh Torrence=Won/Lost Record

So, who you gonna trust?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 20, 2008 8:23 AM | Report abuse

Greg,

I heard last night he might play against us, he must of had a setback.

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 20, 2008 8:26 AM | Report abuse

Kerney ate the Redskins up last time they played.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | November 20, 2008 8:19 AM

Didn't he specifically eat Stephon Heyer? Might be one of the reasons why Zorn's had a preference for Jansen at RT?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | November 20, 2008 8:29 AM | Report abuse

Flound, yeah they reported it on the NFL Network last night. I tortured myself by attending, and then re-watching the Redskins game from Sunday night.

From re-watching it, the play calling was pretty bad on Zorns part, as well as Blatch's. But hindsigh is what it is..

Jansen really got moved around, he was using good form, and leverage too, but guys just kept getting under his pads.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | November 20, 2008 8:31 AM | Report abuse

bepp bepp

Posted by: BeantownGreg | November 20, 2008 8:33 AM | Report abuse

Mee beep

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 20, 2008 8:33 AM | Report abuse

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