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Hey, peeps! Giving you a new post whilst we await the Monday Morning/Afternoon/Brunch H-Back from Jasno. And I have a shameless self-promotion to make, too. I'll be chatting at 2 p.m. Join me!

By Cindy Boren  |  October 22, 2007; 12:14 PM ET
 
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first???

Posted by: deadskin | October 22, 2007 12:28 PM | Report abuse

2nd

Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2007 12:29 PM | Report abuse

2nd!!!!!!!

Posted by: sicwidit | October 22, 2007 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Were the promotion truly shameless, it might include a link

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 22, 2007 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Hold up, CINDY will be chatting? How cool is that?! This I gotta see.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 22, 2007 12:33 PM | Report abuse

OK...here we go...

1)The offense stunk this game as we all know but I'm still not convinced Al Saunders is actually running the offense. This wreaks of Joe Gibbs. I'll call for Suanders' job when I know for sure he's calling ALL the shots.

2) I thought Jason Campbell was a bit jumpy yesterday.

3) This defense is at the championship level.

4) I thought the game plan against the Lions was great, not just because of the score, but they threw the ball more on 1st down.

5) I feel like we lost...but a win is a win and it's better than 3-3, just ask Dallas when they squeeked by Buffalo.

Posted by: sicwidit | October 22, 2007 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Its 1230; it still feels like a loss.

damn them.

Posted by: Go Skins Go | October 22, 2007 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Jason screwed up again, they are talking about it on Redskins radio.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2007 12:37 PM | Report abuse

From someone whose team has played the Patriots this year, it's MORE about Defense than it is about offense when you play them.

Despite the score, our offense performed pretty well yesterday, gaining running yards when needed and completing plenty of intermediate routes, particularly in hte middle.

But if you can't stop them scoring you will inevitably find yourself playing catch-up and making mistakes. They are following pretty-much the same game plan all the time now; score first and pressure defense iuntil you get the mistakes that can put you a couple of scores (or more) clear, then grind it out via either air or ground depending on the weakness of the opponent.

The Redskins defense is absolutely good enough to stop the Patriots offense from scoring at will - provided time of possession ends up being close - but is the offense good enough to score the points you will need to make them change their plan?

If it is, you come away with the win. Brady is never more than a couple of hurries/sacks from being the impetulant twerp we saw in last year's Miami game, where he did everything but stamping his little feet and shouting "don't you people know who I am?". A couple of times then he looked like he was going to insist on do-overs because "people pay to see me, not all you other guys".

Separate him from the pack and hunt him down. I don't think he's as well-loved in the NE changing room as some would have you believe. I think the other guys on his team they know they need him, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't like to see him get his feathers ruffled now and again.

Posted by: Redcoat | October 22, 2007 12:35 PM

Posted by: Redcoat | October 22, 2007 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat - I agree. Our defense is good enough to limit their points, but we are going to have to put up at least 24 points if we want to win. They also have to throw the ball down the field. I think they tried maybe twice yesterday. That is just not going to cut it.

Posted by: BT | October 22, 2007 12:41 PM | Report abuse

I think Jason Campbell was a little disappointed by the boos coming from the crowd when he threw that late 1st half INT. His whole persona changed after that.

Posted by: SkinsRealist | October 22, 2007 12:42 PM | Report abuse

It only feels like a loss because we expect the skins to beat on the perenially bad cards. They aren't that bad. Ask the Steelers.
In reality, our o-line sucks right now, and all the offensive problems stem from that.
A win is a win. If the o-line gets healthy, and we still can't do anything on O, then I'll be upset. I'm just happy they pulled it off.

Posted by: nah | October 22, 2007 12:43 PM | Report abuse

"Despite the score, our offense performed pretty well yesterday, gaining running yards when needed and completing plenty of intermediate routes, particularly in hte middle."

Redcoat,

160 some yds. total.

90 some yards passing.

Me think you might wanna rethink this statement.

Thanks to yday, Sskins 25th in average yards gained per game.

Not so good. Defense will tire/fold/collapse at this rate.

Posted by: GAD | October 22, 2007 12:43 PM | Report abuse

"Jason screwed up again" is just not enough information.

Which Jason? What was the screw-up?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 22, 2007 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Halloween Peeps rule!
Easter Peeps drool!

Posted by: not cHRiS lArRy | October 22, 2007 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Cindy RULEZ
Chatter DRULEZ

RedCoat RULEZ
Belichik DRULEZ

Posted by: Dik | October 22, 2007 12:45 PM | Report abuse

That game plan yesterday reeked of Joe Gibbs. How much more conservative can you get?? Usually feel elated on Monday after a win. Not today. Definitely feels like a loss.

If, and it's a big IF, The Skins can play .500 ball the next ten games we go 9-7 and make the playoffs. Not likely with that offense yesterday.

How friggin deflating it was to see Rock run it back to the Cards 20 and get NOTHING. A good team scores points there.

Posted by: Pretzel Boy | October 22, 2007 12:45 PM | Report abuse

The staff at Washington Post are really catering to you blog fiends.

Myself included.

Posted by: SkinsRealist | October 22, 2007 12:46 PM | Report abuse

GAD, I believe that Redcoat was talking about the Miami Offense, versus the Pats.

At first glance I thought the same thing, however, he's an extremely bright fellow, and probably not have mis-spoke in this manner.

Posted by: Greg(Boston) | October 22, 2007 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat,

160 some yds. total.

90 some yards passing.

Me think you might wanna rethink this statement.

Posted by: GAD | October 22, 2007 12:43 PM

I don't need to rethink GAD, I'm a Dolphins fan. I'm just sayin' learn from our mistakes and don't get drawn into a chasing game, give them nothing and attack Mrs Brady, Old Lady all day.

Posted by: Redcoat | October 22, 2007 12:48 PM | Report abuse

With the Giants playing the Dolphins and ofcourse the Skins in NE, we will likely be TWO GAMES behind the SECOND PLACE team in the NFC East by Sunday pm.

I think the Giants and Cowboys are slowly getting out of sight.

Therefore, the big game/must win coming up will be in Tampa.

It appears likely that the Bucs and Skins will be fighting for that second wild card.

Posted by: GAD | October 22, 2007 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Jason started fight with Larry Michaels in the locker room. Chris Samuels had to break it up.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2007 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of catering, any of you windbags know where a guy can find a bountiful buffet of baklava?

Posted by: daveb55 | October 22, 2007 12:49 PM | Report abuse

The boos were not for JC, I hope he knows that. It is weird to start booing so soon.

This reminds my spoiled redskin fans of the early 90s.

I was one of them but not now.

Posted by: M&M | October 22, 2007 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Why was Keenan and Reche signed again? Why were they not on the field yesterday? Failure to grasp the 700 pages of turmoil?

Posted by: SkinsRealist | October 22, 2007 12:50 PM | Report abuse

A Win doesn't feel like a Loss to me.

I'm funny that way.

Posted by: Dik | October 22, 2007 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Thank you for those kind words Greg.

GAD, I hope we (Miami) can do SOMEthing for you in the London game. It's a long way to go to get spanked (again).

I think we'll run on the Jints all day in an attempt to try to keep LBM off the field. The thought of Plaxico vs. our secondary is too much to bear as we don't have ANY fit guys left back there now.

Posted by: Redcoat | October 22, 2007 12:52 PM | Report abuse

I thought they played pretty well considering the offensive line is playing hurt and without three-fifths of the starters. Pucillo was thrown back a few times and Wade lacked lateral quickness. The defense took away the run and we couldn't protect long enough to throw even short passes. At least the defense and special teams played well (at least until the 4th quarter...)

The Redskins need to fix the line problems before next week or the game will not even be close - regardless of how well they play defense. They may need to stop max protecting and use more four wide receiver sets to get the ball out quicker. And please dial up some blitzes on defense -- we cannot give Brady 4-5 seconds to throw without any pressure!

Posted by: siris | October 22, 2007 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Caldwell was inactive. McCardell was definitely missed, though. I can only guess that Thrash is a better blocker.

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 22, 2007 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Siris - I think the ONLY way to beat the Pats now is to knock ol' Tom Brady to the ground 'till is eyes are swimming.

RC, we're counting on you guys to do the same to Eli, k? I'm rootin' for ya to win, but I'll settle for beating up the QB. Don't more Brits root for the Phins now anyway ;-)

HAIL!

Posted by: Dik | October 22, 2007 12:55 PM | Report abuse

I think Jason Campbell was a little disappointed by the boos coming from the crowd when he threw that late 1st half INT. His whole persona changed after that.

Posted by: SkinsRealist | October 22, 2007 12:42 PM

I was at the game, skins, and we weren't booing him. As Jeff "Vegas loves me" Tripplett was coming off the field the boos were being directed at him because of the awful call against Fletch. Fletch was chewing his ear off and we wanted to help. I think Soupy was already off the field.

Posted by: Larry Bud | October 22, 2007 12:57 PM | Report abuse

If Smooty and Rogers are up to speed by the end of the week, we will probably get to see the rare but famous Cover-0. And maybe 1 blitz package per quarter.

You can be sure that Brady will see stuff he has never seen before, compliments of Gregg Williams.

Posted by: Rosenfels Naptha | October 22, 2007 12:59 PM | Report abuse

I hope we at least account ourselves well Dik. The route to beating the Pats is definitely to get to Brady, early and often.

Normally I'd expect the majority at Wembley to be supporting the Fins, although this season's results will probably switch the floating voters to Jints fans!

Posted by: Redcoat | October 22, 2007 1:00 PM | Report abuse

We added a Monday chat...whether it's to dissect the Sunday performance, look ahead to the next Sunday or talk about Dumbledore. Anything you wanna discuss.

Posted by: Cindy | October 22, 2007 1:02 PM | Report abuse

But Redcoat, doesn't the phrase "look at the cute little fish they have on their helmets" sway the Euro majority?

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 22, 2007 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat, why would people in the UK cheer for the Dolphins? It seems New York would be cheered giving the familiarity and history with the city.

Posted by: SkinsRealist | October 22, 2007 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Even English people know that's Flipper on the helmets.

Posted by: Dan Marino | October 22, 2007 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Cindy,

Are you going to be rockin' the Moto Razr with V-Cast during your chat?

Posted by: The Verizon Guy | October 22, 2007 1:10 PM | Report abuse

you say "flipper", I say "Mahi-Mahi"...

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 22, 2007 1:10 PM | Report abuse

THAT'S NOT SNOWFLAKE!!!

Oh God, what a great movie.

Do the Patriots have a back up QB? Is he like Aaron Rogers or just a warm body to hold the clipboard?

Posted by: Dorf | October 22, 2007 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Verizon Guy, are you toying with me?
Every Sunday after the Redskins game (and the rest of the NFC East games), I refigure my predictions for the rest of the season. I still keep coming up with 8-7 going into that last game, with a playoff berth on the line.

Posted by: Cindy | October 22, 2007 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Dan Marino | October 22, 2007 1:18 PM | Report abuse

The scary thing about Pats backup QB ... I don't know anything about Kassel, but Gutierrez -- the third stringer -- must have some pics of Brady. He couldn't even get a start at Michigan, transferred to [IIRC] Idaho State for his last year, and used blackmail to secure a spot on the roster.

Posted by: cload and daggar | October 22, 2007 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Cindy--

You going head-to-head with the Michael Wilbon chat? You rock.

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 22, 2007 1:19 PM | Report abuse

The NE backup QBs are that legendary twosome; Matt Gutierrez and Matt Cassel! What do you mean you've never heard of them...

To answer you SkinsRealist, I think it comes down to more working-class folk liking Fla than NYC. NYC is too much like London, and only Londoners like London! Simple as that.

I'm a "common as muck" Londoner myself, so I uniquely have both perspectives.

Posted by: Redcoat | October 22, 2007 1:21 PM | Report abuse

No way I have the onions/potatoes/winter vegetables to take on the Wilbonator....I'll start when he finishes.

Posted by: Cindy | October 22, 2007 1:21 PM | Report abuse

http://cowboys.beloblog.com/

Cowboys' blog gives Springs some love and rates Redskins in the NFC top five. One guy predicts a Dallas/Washington NFC title game.

Posted by: cowboys suck | October 22, 2007 1:23 PM | Report abuse

My new favorite Monday activity is watching Belichick's presser. No matter what, it's as if he's just seen his entire family immolated before his very eyes....I confess this is the first time I've noticed that his hoodie now has the initials "BB" on it!

Posted by: Cindy | October 22, 2007 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Redcoat, I would think to people living under perpetually gray skies that the name "Miami" have happier connotations -- sunshine, gigantic beaches, sunshine, bikinis, sunshine -- than the name "New York."

What that might have to do with their allegiances (ongoing on momentary) to the American football teams from either city, I have no idea.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 22, 2007 1:26 PM | Report abuse

No way I have the onions/potatoes/winter vegetables to take on the Wilbonator....

Posted by: Cindy | October 22, 2007 01:21 PM

I'm glad to hear that Cyn, we had enough of a gender-xchange shabingus with dealermique before. Not that there's anything wrong with that transgendering thingummybob anyway.

Posted by: Redcoat | October 22, 2007 1:26 PM | Report abuse

He has BB on his hoodie? Bill Blass? Man, that's so last century. Bill Blass went out right after Buster Brown shoes.

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 22, 2007 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Do those initials look like they were crudely written with a Sharpie? The guy is all class, no doubt about it.

Also, what must it be like for him to pick out his gameday outfit? Even funnier than the idea of him sorting through a hundred hoodies in a big walk-in closet is the idea that he just rummages through a cardboard box to find a relatively fresh one each Sunday.

Also, F Bill Bellichick and his Cheatriots.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 22, 2007 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Step back, folks. Nate's gettin on his game day face and it's only Monday.

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 22, 2007 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Nate is totally gone and it's only Monday. This is excellent.

Posted by: Cindy | October 22, 2007 1:38 PM | Report abuse

I know, I know, I am a masochist and an idiot and a Pollyanna and a fool and like such as. But I am excited at the prospect of our D punching the Pats in the mouth on Sunday.

Maybe we won't win, but we can hurt their pride and call their collective manhood into question, on their own field, and show everybody else they are vulnerable. By punching them in the mouth, again and again and again.

F the Pats. Maybe you have guessed that that's my theme for the week.

(Getting as psyched as humanly possible since, with less than three weeks to Mrs. Nate's due date, I'm treating every game like it will be my last for a while. Tick tick tick...)

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 22, 2007 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Has any game in NFL history featured two coaches with 6 SB champsionships between them? I have to think Gibbs wants this bad.

Posted by: Da Truef | October 22, 2007 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Congrats Nate on the little one on the way. Ill join you in a
F the PATS
and as always
F Injuries

HAIL

Posted by: SAK | October 22, 2007 1:42 PM | Report abuse

I will be thrilled if the Turantula knocked the piss out of Moss, at least once.

Posted by: Wayne P. | October 22, 2007 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Three weeks??? You can't have a baby during the NFL season!!!! What were you thinking????

Posted by: Cindy | October 22, 2007 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Nate,

Here! Here!


and...

maps!

Posted by: Stumped | October 22, 2007 1:52 PM | Report abuse

tell her to hold it in until halftime of the Dallas game.

Posted by: Wayne P. | October 22, 2007 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Three weeks??? You can't have a baby during the NFL season!!!! What were you thinking????

Posted by: Cindy | October 22, 2007 01:50 PM

He was copulating in the off-season when there's nothing else to do.

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 22, 2007 1:53 PM | Report abuse

He was copulating in the off-season when there's nothing else to do.

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 22, 2007 01:53 PM

Sorry, I forgot about the off-season blog, which does consume a lot of his time. Mea cupola.

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 22, 2007 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Yes, yes, poor planning and all that.

But hope springs eternal that the Skins might find a way to persevere even if I'm not tuned in to every snap.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 22, 2007 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Good thought Nate, although the daytime skies aren't always grey (please note correct spelling), they are sometimes a deep/dark black!!

I do hope though that the renowned British love of the underdog may play a part in persuading my fellow countrymen to support the Fins.

Posted by: Redcoat | October 22, 2007 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Nate,

Can't you find a hospital with TVs in the delivery room? You are in Portland, after all, not Casper, Wyoming.

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 22, 2007 2:03 PM | Report abuse

And hey, I'm not the only one up here facing this delicate situation. I think Inigo Montoya is a new daddy, and there are a couple more guys with little ones on the way this fall, as I recall. So let's not make this all about me and my poor planning.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 22, 2007 2:03 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: talent evaluator | October 22, 2007 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Peep Peep

Posted by: Anonymous | October 22, 2007 2:07 PM | Report abuse

We had over a dozen Skins fans at the sports bar yesterday, after a low turnout vs. the Pack. It will be interesting to see how many Skins fans turn up for what everyone is expecting to be a slaughter.

And it will be interesting to see how the Pats fans behave themselves. They've been pretty good so far this season with as minimizing the obnoxiousness, perhaps lulled into a trance by the methodical beatdowns their team has been issuing. (And goodness knows, we Skins fans are louder and more annoying that just about anybody, singing HTTR). If it's the slugfest I'm hoping for, I wonder if there will be talking of trash...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | October 22, 2007 2:08 PM | Report abuse

http://www.thehogs.net/forum/images4board/camp/IMG_0566.jpg

must be a fan of the NBA short-shorts back in the 80's eh...

Posted by: tsk tsk cindy | October 22, 2007 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Cindy - thank you for that lovely beefcake photo of Mr. Cooley.

Posted by: Patty | October 22, 2007 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Interesting chat Cindy, one question: Are you on drugs.

Love the enthusiam and teh movie quotes/cliches.

Posted by: WaPoLiveFan16 | October 22, 2007 4:24 PM | Report abuse

While We Await the H...
Hey, peeps! Giving you a new post whilst we await the Monday morning/Afternoon/ Brunch H-Back from Jasno.

By Cindy Boren | October 22, 2007; 12:14 PM ET

Mmmm. Us Peeps look delicious!

Posted by: cmecyclist | October 23, 2007 11:01 AM | Report abuse

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