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There's a Game Sunday ...

With all the drama - a common event around Redskins Park this time of year - I haven't gotten around to looking at this week's opponent, the Cincy Bengals. Frankly, given how awful the Bungals (1-11-1) have been, there really isn't that much to say. But here goes.

All the attention goes to their two big-name wide receivers, but only one is actually producing. T.J. Houshmandzadeh has 89 catches for 885 yards despite playing much of the season with Ryan Fitzpatrick at quarterback, and he's gonna get paid next year sinces he's in his contract year. Chad "Ocho Cinco" Johnson has a pedestrian 50 catches for 507 yards.

While most of the NFL was getting its first real look at Fitzpatrick, the Harvard grad, this season, the Redskins actually know him a bit better. Fitzpatrick was rushed into his first NFL start late in the 2005 season when he was with the Rams and the Skins were visiting St. Louis in a must-win game during their first miracle march to the playoffs.

Fitzpatrick is a gamer, and can use his feet to try to make plays, but he has just six touchdown passes and nine interceptions (a woeful 66.9 passer rating). Of course, the Bengals' offensive line has been atrocious, allowing 48 sacks already (if the Redskins can't get a potent pass rush going against this outfit, maybe they should just start playing with 11 defensive backs).

Fitzpatrick gets no help from the running game. Cincy averages 3.4 yards per carry as a team, and their top two running backs - Cedric Benson and Chris Perry - have combined to average a mind-numbing 2.8 yards per carry with only three touchdowns. That's as bad as it gets.

The defense has been a mess, with Marvin Lewis, a guru defensive coordinator in the past, unable to get things righted on that side of the ball. Opponents have scored 26 or more points in eight of the Bengals'13 games.

They rank last in total offense (29th in running; 30th in passing) and last in points per game. They rank 24th in total defense, 31st in sacks per pass play (so maybe Jason Campbell will get time to take a full breath after getting the snap, even behind a makeshift line). The Bengals rank 29th in points allowed per game.

If not for the historically bad season in Detroit - the Lions are on the cusp of the worst season in NFL history - we'd probably be talking a whole lot more about this outfit. Saying all of that, if the Skins find a way to turn the ball over a bunch and fall behind early, they could lose.

I think the Redskins will take care of business, although this may not be a blowout. The atmosphere in Cincy figures to be very bland, with loads of empty seats, a chill in the air, and pride and desperation the only real motivating factors at work.

By Jason La Canfora  |  December 12, 2008; 8:10 AM ET
 
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The Truth wants to think Cindy for recognizing The Truth's dynamic wit and intelligence.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | December 12, 2008 8:22 AM | Report abuse

Yes "Redskins" football will prevail in this one. But alas fools gold.

Posted by: TheCultureOfLosing | December 12, 2008 8:23 AM | Report abuse

jeeze, looking at Ocho Cinco's stats, if we would've completeted that trade (for what, two first rounders?), how big of a bust would that have been.

Our fans would be crying.


I stand by what I heard someone say : "The only front office dumber than one that tries to trade two first rounders for Chad Johnson ist he one that turned down two first rounders for Chad Johnson."

Posted by: TheTruth11 | December 12, 2008 8:24 AM | Report abuse

I stand by what I heard someone say : "The only front office dumber than one that tries to trade two first rounders for Chad Johnson ist he one that turned down two first rounders for Chad Johnson."

Posted by: TheTruth11 | December 12, 2008 8:24 AM
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Somewhere, Vinnie C. is crying into his Captain Crunchâ„¢.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | December 12, 2008 8:30 AM | Report abuse

On the other hand, lamentations are good for web traffic and the quest, which I have not mentioned, for 300,000 posts...

Posted by: CindyBoren | December 12, 2008 8:31 AM | Report abuse

The Zorntis kerfluffle must have been a big help, Cindy.
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Posted by: ifthethunderdontgetya | December 12, 2008 8:38 AM | Report abuse

On the other hand, lamentations are good for web traffic and the quest, which I have not mentioned, for 300,000 posts...

Posted by: CindyBoren | December 12, 2008 8:31 AM |

Let JLC do a couple more Torrence is great we should have never let him go post and we will get there pretty quick.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 12, 2008 8:39 AM | Report abuse

If we had offered Leigh Torrence for Chad Johnson, the Bengals front office would have thrown in TJ and Carson too.

Posted by: Section104 | December 12, 2008 8:39 AM | Report abuse

These times are tough enough without me playing the Torrence card, tempting though that might be.

Posted by: CindyBoren | December 12, 2008 8:45 AM | Report abuse

I'm curoius to see if JLA acknowledges that LT's special teams gave up a TD last night....how could that have happened.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 12, 2008 8:46 AM | Report abuse

Gift ideas for 'skins Players:

1. An English tutor for Clinton Portis

2. A matching red and white striped shirt and hat for Chris Cooley so he can complete his Where's Waldo impersonation

3. An NFL rule book for Jim Zorn so he can actually read where it's not illegal to throw past the 1st down marker on 3rd down

4. A bottle of Dial body wash to each player in the hopes of eliminating "teamstink"

5. A git certificate good for one delousing for Vinny

6. A grownup to put Danny over their knee and give him the spanking the spoiled little brat never had


Posted by: davebutz | December 12, 2008 8:47 AM | Report abuse

7. a front office bailout from Thomas Dimitroff!!

Posted by: TheTruth11 | December 12, 2008 8:49 AM | Report abuse

I didn't see the game last night. Did Leigh Torrence down the ball inside the 20 for the Saints?

Posted by: TWISI | December 12, 2008 8:53 AM | Report abuse

Truth;

I dont see how you can say that CJ's production would have been the same if he came here. Comparing apples to oranges, yes?

Not that I was an advocate for the trade, but whos to say what his production would have been?

Posted by: Zeebs | December 12, 2008 8:56 AM | Report abuse

I didn't see the game last night. Did Leigh Torrence down the ball inside the 20 for the Saints?

Posted by: TWISI | December 12, 2008 8:53 AM

No, he was too busy giving up long returns.

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 12, 2008 8:57 AM | Report abuse

In trying to keep on subject, this game is gonna come down to how well the Redskins offensive line can block. Period. Losing both tackles is gonna be a huge obstacle, hopefully playing the bengals is just what these guys needed to knock the rust off...

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 12, 2008 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Agreed greg;

but i think we should be able to lock down their offense. Stop the run and let our good CD's go one on one and have LL over top.

They shouldnt score more than ten points.

Posted by: Zeebs | December 12, 2008 8:59 AM | Report abuse

zeebs, agreed, Rogers/Hall should be able to lock down on their wideouts.

I'm hopeful that Rhino can get into the game this weekend.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 12, 2008 9:03 AM | Report abuse

For those interested, there is an article on Fox Sports about the most Overpaid, and the most Underpaid in the NFL. It shows Roy Williams, of the Cowboys as an example of Overpaid, and Matt Cassell as an underpaid.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 12, 2008 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Losing both tackles is big for any team but tose two tackles were having bad years, esp Samuals but especially Jansen, hes never really been the same since that Achilles rupture, he was holding his own when we were running the ball 35+ times a game but everyone wanted him out. Samuals is a bigger loss but even he was having a very down year nagging injuries and sitting out a game for the first time in many years.
I understand that we dont have proven depth to put in there but change could be good, guys can step up and either way injuries or no injuries sooner or later we needed to find where we stand with some backups we have.

Posted by: Stu27 | December 12, 2008 9:06 AM | Report abuse

5 to 1 odds that Cincy pulls it all together for a big week.

Posted by: Original_etrod | December 12, 2008 9:07 AM | Report abuse

I'm not too worried about our patchwork O-Line against this current opponent -The Bungles. I predict Clinton burns off some more anger and tramples the black & orange for 150 yards and Skins finally hit the 30 mark. Skins - 31 Bungles - 13

Posted by: slipperyrichard | December 12, 2008 9:08 AM | Report abuse

"Truth;

I dont see how you can say that CJ's production would have been the same if he came here. Comparing apples to oranges, yes?

Not that I was an advocate for the trade, but whos to say what his production would have been?

Posted by: Zeebs"


You're right, with this offense he would probably have had WORSE stats.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | December 12, 2008 9:11 AM | Report abuse

jeeze, looking at Ocho Cinco's stats, if we would've completeted that trade (for what, two first rounders?), how big of a bust would that have been.

Our fans would be crying.


I stand by what I heard someone say : "The only front office dumber than one that tries to trade two first rounders for Chad Johnson ist he one that turned down two first rounders for Chad Johnson."

Posted by: TheTruth11 | December 12, 2008 8:24 AM

Actually, I think it would be quite different.

This trade would have looked bad at first and good in hindsight after you look at the way our season played out.

The 3 2nd rounders = Chad Johnson trade

Posted by: DaReal4th | December 12, 2008 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Hopefully we see a strong game Sunday. I don't expect them to make the playoffs, and if they do, I don't expect that they will beat anyone unless some Giants-like miracle suddenly happens, but I do want them to take care of the Eagles next week. That could actually turn out to be a meaningful game, and if they play poorly against the bungles after the week they are currently having, it could be serious trouble when Philly comes in to town. Apparently the curse of William Penn is done, and I do not want to see the Eagles get hot coming into playoff time.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | December 12, 2008 9:16 AM | Report abuse

Yeah 4th, but I still think we will have at least two producers out of that draft, and they are young.

D Thomas will be good. I havent seen enough out of the other two.

As I mentioned yesterday, WCO is hard for the young guys bwecause it is predicated on timing and precise routes.

Posted by: Zeebs | December 12, 2008 9:18 AM | Report abuse

I'm hopeful that Rhino can get into the game this weekend.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 12, 2008 9:03 AM

How is that gonna happen? We still have healthy veteran Gaurds playing and we're in the playoff chase?

Posted by: DaReal4th | December 12, 2008 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Does Rhino play center? Rabach moves over? Wasnt that one of the scenarios?

Posted by: Zeebs | December 12, 2008 9:20 AM | Report abuse

He was a T in college, thats how......

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 12, 2008 9:20 AM | Report abuse

Jaosn David could very well be the worst CB in the NFL. But Leigh Torrence can't sniff the field on defense. What were we thinking letting this shutdown corner and Steven Tasker-like special teams stalwart go. Please let us know Jasno, I know you are going to sometime soon.

Posted by: JasonLaTempleton | December 12, 2008 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Looks as if the Bengals will be getting their second win of the season on Sunday. Skins are in such disarray...they always find ways to lose to teams like this. I hope it doesn't happen...that 8th win would be real nice going in to the Philly game.

Posted by: TiredOfLosers | December 12, 2008 9:21 AM | Report abuse

I'm hopeful that Rhino can get into the game this weekend.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 12, 2008 9:03 AM


We might as well try out Colt Brennan too (Channelling my inner Greg).....

Posted by: DaReal4th | December 12, 2008 9:21 AM | Report abuse

In trying to keep on subject, this game is gonna come down to how well the Redskins offensive line can block.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 12, 2008 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Really? That's very perceptive of you.

Posted by: ga8085 | December 12, 2008 9:23 AM | Report abuse

He was a T in college, thats how......

Posted by: BeantownGreg | December 12, 2008 9:20 AM

But he is a gaurd on the Redskins. The tackle experiment is over, for the moment....

Posted by: DaReal4th | December 12, 2008 9:25 AM | Report abuse

"Hip Hip, you're fired!"

Posted by: aaronharman | December 12, 2008 9:26 AM | Report abuse

I still think we will have at least two producers out of that draft, and they are young.

D Thomas will be good. I havent seen enough out of the other two.

As I mentioned yesterday, WCO is hard for the young guys bwecause it is predicated on timing and precise routes.

Posted by: Zeebs | December 12, 2008 9:18 AM |

I think all 3 second rounders will succeed....

I was just saying there would have been more instant gratification if we picked up CJ85 this year...

But I like the 2nd rounders more than picking up CJ........

Posted by: DaReal4th | December 12, 2008 9:28 AM | Report abuse

Problems with the Cincy Game:

The ONLY way we gain positive momentum from this game is if we blow them out. We need to win 35-7 or something like that.

If we win, but only by the small margins we've been seeing (e.g. 13-7), then we may technically push our wins to 8, but you can bet that everyone will be talking the same talk we've been hearing for weeks...

Posted by: p1funk | December 12, 2008 9:29 AM | Report abuse

beep beep coming up

Posted by: CindyBoren | December 12, 2008 9:32 AM | Report abuse

"The ONLY way we gain positive momentum from this game is if we blow them out. We need to win 35-7 or something like that."

At this point, positive momentum would be simply being able to move the ball. Start with that first (or get back to that first), then you can focus on turning solid offense into a blowout offense.

Posted by: psps23 | December 12, 2008 9:34 AM | Report abuse

At this point, positive momentum would be simply being able to move the ball. Start with that first (or get back to that first), then you can focus on turning solid offense into a blowout offense.

Posted by: psps23 | December 12, 2008 9:34 AM | Report abuse

I don't know...we've been moving the ball (Ravens game notwithstanding - most teams don't really move the ball against the Ravens). We're just not able to score points. If we move the ball but don't get TDs, I don't see how that is progress.

Posted by: p1funk | December 12, 2008 9:37 AM | Report abuse

exactly psps;

someone said on the broadcast about starting quick. just like with gibbs, when we go 3 and out on the first two series, then your d has been on the field for most of the 1stQ.

I like throwing with JC early to get him in a rythmn. Mix in the run, to get CP and the oline off, but if we run on 1st and second then throw on 3rd and long, JC has no chance.

I would go trick play first play this weekend, try to get a big gainer, then immediately go hurry up. throw them off, f em up, keep it rolling.

Posted by: Zeebs | December 12, 2008 9:37 AM | Report abuse

His name is not Chad "ocho cinco" Johnson, it is Chad Ocho Cinco.

Posted by: BMACattack | December 12, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Folks:

Check this out on FOX Sports:

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/pgStory?contentId=8932814&MSNHPHMA#sport=COLLEGE%20FOOTBALL&photo=8932598

I still think CB should get a couple of starts this year!!!

Posted by: fortysteps | December 12, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

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