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Breaking down the Redskins' 53-man roster

The Redskins' opening 53-man roster must be set Saturday, so we figured this would be a good time to present our thoughts on the subject.

For the most part, it seems clear whom Coach Mike Shanahan will retain on the roster as the Redskins finalize things for the Sept. 12 season opener against the NFC East rival Dallas Cowboys at FedEx Field. As is often the case, however, there could be some surprising additions and subtractions.

It was easier to determine the roster composition in advance of cut-down day during the previous regime because more people at Redskins Park talked about the process. Shanahan runs a tighter ship.

But based on conversations with my colleagues on the beat, Rick Maese and Barry Svrluga, and people we trust at the complex, here's our take on the roster before the Redskins face the Arizona Cardinals in preseason finale Friday night at University of Phoenix Stadium. And, obviously, things could change after tonight's game because of injuries and other factors.

Quarterbacks (3): Donovan McNabb, Rex Grossman and John Beck.
Comment: It makes sense to carry three quarterbacks because McNabb, 33, has played a full 16-game schedule only once (2008) in the past six seasons, and twice during that span played in fewer than 11 games (2005-06). Shanahan appeared to signal his intention to keep Beck in rewarding him recently with a contract extension. While Beck failed to impress during previous stops in Miami and Baltimore, Shanahan apparently liked him coming out of BYU. Grossman, who worked under offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan with the Houston Texans last season, is firmly entrenched as McNabb's primary backup.

Running backs (4): Clinton Portis, Larry Johnson, Ryan Torain and Keiland Williams.
Comment: Portis is focused and in the best shape of his Redskins career. He's eager to prove his many doubters wrong. Johnson, who could share the workload with Portis, hopes to experience a career renaissance in Washington. Young backs Torain and Williams provide depth and, presumably, help on special teams.

Fullback (1): Mike Sellers.
Comment: "Big Mike" had a good offseason and was rolling along in the preseason until he suffered a knee injury in the second preseason game. He expects to be ready for the season opener.

Wide receivers (6): Santana Moss, Joey Galloway, Anthony Armstrong, Devin Thomas, Terrence Austin and Brandon Banks.
Comment: Moss is still Washington's No. 1 receiver after all these years. The Redskins persuaded Joey Galloway, 38, not to retire, and it appears he will begin his 16th NFL season as their starting split end. Armstrong is the feel-good story of the preseason. Thomas possesses the talent to accomplish big things, but the Shanahans want more from him. Austin helped himself in the important third preseason game. Malcolm Kelly would have been on the roster had he not aggravated his severe hamstring injury, prompting the team to put him on the season-ending injured-reserve list. Kelly's misfortune opened the door for the diminutive Banks, who has stirred excitement on punt returns, though sometimes for the wrong reasons.

Tight ends (3): Chris Cooley, Fred Davis and Logan Paulsen.
Comment: Cooley has fully recovered from the fractured ankle that cut short his 2009 season. He has developed a good rapport with McNabb and could have a personal-best season. The Redskins believe Davis possesses Pro Bowl talent. They plan to utilize two tight-end sets often this season. Paulsen, 23, has shown some talent that could be developed.

Offensive line (9): C Casey Rabach, LT Trent Williams, RT Jammal Brown, LG Derrick Dockery, RG Artis Hicks, T Stephon Heyer, G/C Kory Lichtensteiger, T William Robinson, G/C Will Montgomery.
Comment: Rabach continues to anchor the line and Williams and Brown could provide the Redskins with a pair of outstanding tackles for a long time. But Williams will experience growing pains early in his rookie season while facing some of the league's top edge rushers and Brown is still regaining form after sitting out the entire 2009 season because of a hip injury and sports hernia. Hicks, a savvy, versatile veteran, may be more productive in a reserve role similar to that of the one he filled well for the Minnesota Vikings. He's needed on the first-team, however, because Mike Williams (blood clots) will not play this season. Lichtensteiger and Montgomery play multiple positions, which is important during the season because not everyone will be active. Heyer is back on the bench after starting 37 games the past three seasons. Robinson is an athletic tackle.

Defensive line (6): RDE/NT Albert Haynesworth, NT Maake Kemoeatu, LDE Adam Carriker, DE Kedric Golston, DE Phillip Daniels, DE Vonnie Holliday.
Comment: After his tumultuous offseason, Haynesworth recently confided in friends he plans to have the best season of his career. But Kemoeatu is the key to the Redskins' new defensive scheme. The hard worker missed the entire 2009 season because of an Achilles' injury, and nose tackle is the most important position in the 3-4. If Kemoeatu is over the nose, Haynesworth will be pleased because he can play end. Carriker, sidelined the entire 2007 season because of a shoulder injury, failed to find success with the St. Louis Rams after they selected him 13th overall in the 2007 draft. Golston is steady and Daniels and Holliday have seen it all in their long, productive careers.

Linebackers (9): ILB London Fletcher, ILB Rocky McIntosh, OLB Brian Orakpo, OLB Andre Carter, OLB Lorenzo Alexander, OLB Chris Wilson, ILB Robert Henson, ILB Perry Riley and ILB H.B. Blades.
Comment: The leader of the defense, Fletcher was a first-time Pro Bowl selection last season in his 12th season in the league. Shanahan and defensive coordinator Jim Haslett just love Feltcher, who could have another Pro Bowl-type season if Kemoeatu stays healthy or Haynesworth changes his mind about playing the nose. McIntosh is coming off the best season of his career and highly motivated to receive a lucrative contract offer when he becomes eligible for unrestricted free agency after the season. Orakpo appears headed for stardom and Carter is optimistic about making a successful transition from defensive end. Alexander is the Redskins' most versatile player regardless of position. Wilson, Henson and Riley should be big contributors on special teams. Blades's spot on the roster does not seem as secure as it did under the former regime.

Defensive backs (9): LCB DeAngelo Hall, RCB Carlos Rogers, SS LaRon Landry, FS Kareem Moore, S Reed Doughty, CB Phillip Buchanon, CB Kevin Barnes, S Tyrone Carter and S Chris Horton.
Comment: Hall, who had two interceptions in three preseason games, is among the top playmakers in the league and could thrive in the new defense. Rogers also had a good preseason and Haslett plans to use him in a variety of ways from his cornerback spot. Landry is thrilled about moving back to strong and plans to show the league a new and improved "Dirty 30." Moore was the star of training camp on defense and his knee injury is a setback for the whole defense. Carter, signed because Moore will be sidelined early in the season after surgery, played in the Pittsburgh Steelers' defense, on which the Redskins' scheme is based. It appears Doughty will return to the starting lineup with Moore out, and Horton is ready if Doughty falters.

Specialists (3): PK Graham Gano, P Josh Bidwell and LS Nick Sundberg.
Comment: Gano and Bidwell performed well in the preseason. Sundberg struggled at the outset of training camp but appeared to make progress.

By Jason Reid  |  September 2, 2010; 2:16 PM ET
Categories:  3-4 defense , Offensive line , Redskins by Position , Running backs , Special teams , quarterbacks , wide receivers  
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Comments

So excited I made it onto the regular season roster!

Posted by: Albert_Haynesworth | September 2, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins have teamed up with the American Red Cross for a series of blood donation events -- and to thank fans for donating, all blood drive participants will receive one (1) Redskins regular season game ticket for an upcoming game at FedExField.

Participate with a friend and you will each get a ticket. Yes, there are tickets available for the opening game against Dallas!

All tickets are courtesy of the American Red Cross.

To claim a ticket, the next Redskins blood drive is scheduled for this Friday, Sept. 3 from 10 a.m.-6 p.m.

Locations

Virginia: Christian Fellowship Church, in Ashburn, Va.
Maryland: Damascus Lions Club, in Damascus, Md.

Appointments are required -- walk-ins are not accepted. Please call 1-800-RED CROSS or visit www.redcrossblood.org/Redskins for all upcoming Redskins blood drives.

There are very limited appointments left for the Sept. 3 blood drive.

There will be second drive on Friday, Sept. 10 at Continental Event Center in Manassas, Va., where participants can claim Texans tickets.

Interested donors can also do the following to receive immediate, ongoing updates:

•TEXT LIFE to 79685; Reply GIVE to schedule your appointment. Standard text message rates apply.
•Follow the local Red Cross on Twitter for Redskins announcements at https://twitter.com/redcrossbaltdc
The Red Cross is the exclusive blood donation partner of the Washington Redskins.


Posted by: suliman215 | September 2, 2010 2:26 PM | Report abuse

God that WR corps is really, really scary bad.

Hopefully Shanny can find more skill player talent in the draft than previous regime.. shouldnt be too tough.

Posted by: Rypien11 | September 2, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins believe Davis possesses Pro Bowl talent

HE OVERSLEPT 3 YEARS AGO, AND USED TO GIGGLE IN MEETINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Personally I'd rather see Jarmon make the team than Holliday...youth..

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 2, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse

I agree on the receivers, although i believe that the scheme will make up for it. Even with sexy rexy back there against the Jets 1's I saw receivers open all over the place. I just hope we keep Keiland and Torian cause we need some young horses in the stable.

Was i hallucinating during the skins game?

Posted by: zjenks | September 2, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Selvish Capers > William Robinson

Posted by: merajc86 | September 2, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Locations

Virginia: Christian Fellowship Church, in Ashburn, Va.
Maryland: Damascus Lions Club, in Damascus, Md.

There will be second drive on Friday, Sept. 10 at Continental Event Center in Manassas, Va., where participants can claim Texans tickets.

Posted by: suliman215 | September 2, 2010 2:26 PM


suliman -- Take your ad and shove it. So typical of the Redskins: donation center in Virginia, donation center in Maryland. Whose blood don't you want? Right -- Washington DC, the city where the team claims to be based.

Message from the Redskins to the citizens of the District of Columbia: "Your blood is so full of AIDS and other diseases we don't want it and we don't want to give you free tickets into our stadium. Stay in Washington where you belong."

Posted by: beep-beep | September 2, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Personally I'd rather see Jarmon make the team than Holliday...youth..

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 2, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse
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Exactly... You tell a guy to lose a bunch of weight... then Oh, we're sorry, now gain it all back... That may have taken away some of his strength during camp. I don't like us just throwing all these draft picks away. He has to have value... If he doesn't fit, maybe we can get a trade before cuts.

Posted by: tony325 | September 2, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, what happened to Jarmon this year. i think I have missed all talk about him. Last year he was a "steal" in the supplemental draft, then got hurt. I had forgotten about him. He just completely failing? Or is he not healthy yet?

From an Arizona based Skins fan who has 4th row tickets to the game tonight...

Posted by: carocanesfan | September 2, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Personally I'd rather see Jarmon make the team than Holliday...youth..

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 2, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse
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Exactly... You tell a guy to lose a bunch of weight... then Oh, we're sorry, now gain it all back... That may have taken away some of his strength during camp. I don't like us just throwing all these draft picks away. He has to have value... If he doesn't fit, maybe we can get a trade before cuts.

Posted by: tony325 | September 2, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Not so sure I agree about the receiving corp being scary bad. Moss has been looking good, Galloway was showing good speed, seperation, and hands in the Jet game, and Armstrong has shown excellent speed and seperation, he'll have at least 50 catches, book it!

Posted by: monk811 | September 2, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Selvish Capers > William Robinson

Posted by: merajc86 | September 2, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

I just sharted!!!!!

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 2, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

I think that they're going to keep 5 corners, not 4, so I would swap out Byron Westbrook with Carter or Horton. I would also bet on Darrel Young as a backup to Sellers at the expense of one of the LBs.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | September 2, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Locations

Virginia: Christian Fellowship Church, in Ashburn, Va.
Maryland: Damascus Lions Club, in Damascus, Md.

There will be second drive on Friday, Sept. 10 at Continental Event Center in Manassas, Va., where participants can claim Texans tickets.

Posted by: suliman215 | September 2, 2010 2:26 PM


suliman -- Take your ad and shove it. So typical of the Redskins: donation center in Virginia, donation center in Maryland. Whose blood don't you want? Right -- Washington DC, the city where the team claims to be based.

Message from the Redskins to the citizens of the District of Columbia: "Your blood is so full of AIDS and other diseases we don't want it and we don't want to give you free tickets into our stadium. Stay in Washington where you belong."

Posted by: beep-beep | September 2, 2010 2:39 PM
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grow up ! it seems you are uneducated , you should be able to help others it could be you that person or yor kids one day needed that help

Posted by: suliman215 | September 2, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

I think we will keep more then 6 on the Dline. I want Jarmon to make the team also but Vonnie is one of the few proven vets that has played in the 3-4 before, i think he def makes the team.

Posted by: Stu27 | September 2, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

I want to be supportive of the Coaching Staff, I really do. But for the life of me, when I have watched the last two games on NFL Network replay, Andre Carter, whom I LOVED as a pass-rushing end, looks unable to move well enough as an OLB. Chris Wilson on the other hand appears to move much better, as does HB Blades.

I fear Andre Carter gives up big plays this year...

Secondly, the WR core is frightening, isn't it? We better pray Armstrong is another Charley Brown surprise!!

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 2, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and in those ads that I keep seeing at the top of the page, Tom Brady actually looks like a bigger d0uchebag than he already is.

Which says alot.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | September 2, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Jarmon does look like the most notable omission. He and Tryon.

Tough to argue against keeping Holliday though. The man had 5 sacks last season playing DE in a 3-4. That's a productive total.

I'd think if you want to keep Jarmon, then it would be between he, Blades, and Henson. There seems to be a glut of ILBs on the roster, and one of Blades or Henson may find themselves on the chopping block.

Overall, I like the makeup of that roster. Youth on the offense, veteran stability on defense. Shanahan will look for Haslett to carry this team while his offense continues to get in sync early on.

Posted by: psps23 | September 2, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Seems like too few Defensive Linemen, even for a 3-4.

I think they will only keep one of the two recievers (Banks/Austin) and hope to put the other on the practice squad.

This frees up another slot to use on defense (either Jarmon at DL or Tryon at CB).

I also think they might keep Tyron as a 5th CB over Carter as a 5th S, even though Moore is injured. In a pinch, I think Buchanan and/or Barnes could fill in at Safety so they could go with just three until Moore is back.

Posted by: HokiePaul | September 2, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

No love for Tryon? I think he could help, but we'll see. I don't think it's in the cards for Banks unless he breaks one tonight.

I'd like to see Capers take it. You cannot retain Will Robinson.

Posted by: AdamCr | September 2, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Tom Brady ads at the top of Redskin Insider page.

How bush league!!!

How minor league!!

Good grief, have a Redskin current or historical, player, coach, owner at the top of a REDSKIN page!!!

Good grief, how rinky dink, can RI be?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 2, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

grow up ! it seems you are uneducated , you should be able to help others it could be you that person or yor kids one day needed that help

Posted by: suliman215 | September 2, 2010 2:51 PM

You post that mess and call me "uneducated"?

Explain to me why the Redskins won't collect blood in the District? Racism?

Posted by: beep-beep | September 2, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

it seems you are uneducated

Posted by: suliman215 | September 2, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, albeit from me to interupt an argument, but for someone accusing another of not being educated, you could at least have less than 10 errors in your typing, just saying......

Posted by: monk811 | September 2, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

No way for Paulson. There is no possibility that the Skins can carry FOUR Tight End/FBs (which includes Sellers)... Paulson will be on the Practice Squad. The Skins need someone to back up Sellers so that means Darrel Young. Probably both Paulson and Young will be on the PS and either Torain or Williams. Tryon, Robinson or Westbrook will remain on the 53 in place of Paulson. Once Moore comes back, then they can delete a DB but until then there are too many in the running backs, fullbacks and tight ends.

Posted by: iseyij | September 2, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Poopy goto your room and change your underpants. I thought we had a talk about this...don't rip one if there is any question.

Posted by: PlayAction | September 2, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

"...the Redskins face the Arizona Cardinals in preseason finale Friday night at University of Phoenix Stadium. And, obviously, things could change after tonight's game."

TGIF

Posted by: swowra | September 2, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins officially listed Richard Bartel as the #3 and John Beck as the #4 and then turned around and signed Beck to a tree year contract?

And now today will not confirm the Beck signing when asked about it?

Folks, I love our Skins, but I learned down here in FL to not trust ONE thing, Bruce Allen says in "official statements" from the club. They guy intentionally is not honest.

I want us to succeed again and this year!!
But I am warning everyone, when Bruce Allen makes any official statements, take it with a grain of salt.

Looks like the same is true for Shanny too, with this depth chart.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 2, 2010 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Explain to me why the Redskins won't collect blood in the District? Racism?

Posted by: beep-beep | September 2, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse
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I don't mean to intrude, and I'll probably regret having done so, but please don't play the race card. I agree that it's a little odd that this blood drive is only in VA and MD, but I would bet any amount of money race has nothing to do with it. In my opinion, it's far more likely that the ARC has experienced more successful blood drives in MD and VA than DC, and only has limited resources with which to conduct this particular event. I don't think race has anything to do with it.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | September 2, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

No coach/GM ever thinks he's wrong about a player. Because they liked Beck coming out of college, they extend him even though he's been less than impressive during his NFL tenure.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | September 2, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

I think that they're going to keep 5 corners, not 4, so I would swap out Byron Westbrook with Carter or Horton. I would also bet on Darrel Young as a backup to Sellers at the expense of one of the LBs.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | September 2, 2010 2:51 PM |

Westbrook has already been cut.

Posted by: Ehren | September 2, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Wide receivers (6): Santana Moss, Joey Galloway, Anthony Armstrong, Devin Thomas, Terrence Austin and Brandon Banks.
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that's exactly what I called. Hope they're right.

As for TE- not sure about Paulsen...hope so though.

Excited for the game. Hope Banks, Austin play well and cement a spot. Love to see Capers, Trent W and other young linemen block well.

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | September 2, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Jeez beep, picking a fight with the blood drive spammer?

Posted by: mack1 | September 2, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

beep-beep may be on to something here. Not only are they not doing it in DC but the Maryland and Virginia locations are in suburbs far from the District line. The Skins play in PG (sometimes referred to as Ward 9) but the blood drive is in Damascus, an area of Montgomery County that... let's just say it's very homogeneous. And everyone knows the only blacks in Ashburn play for or previously played for the Redskins.

Get 'em beep-beep. And don't let the Red Cross off of the hook either. :/

Posted by: learnedhand1 | September 2, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

You don't believe in your receiving corp, why? Play close attention to Brandon Banks, If any of our quarterbacks can hit him in stride, I bet you no one in the NFL can catch him. So many times Banks, Armstrong and Austin have to come back to catch an under thrown ball, now assume those ball hits in stride. Did anyone say Desean Jackson? Now we have two Desean Jacksons, and a Darren Sprolls here in Washington!

Posted by: abxinc | September 2, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Westbrook has already been cut.

Posted by: Ehren | September 2, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse
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It was my understanding yesterday that the report that he had been cut was incorrect. Perhaps I'm mistaken. He's still listed on the roster on the Redskins website.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | September 2, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

grow up ! it seems you are uneducated , you should be able to help others it could be you that person or yor kids one day needed that help

Posted by: suliman215 | September 2, 2010 2:51 PM

My vote for hilariously ironic post of the day. Honestly, this guy is calling others uneducated? I could hardly understand what this retard was trying to say.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 2, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Looks like the same is true for Shanny too, with this depth chart.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 2, 2010 3:04 PM

Anyone ever have a Shanny RB on their fantasy team...and try to figure out who was getting the touches that week...forget about it...

Posted by: PlayAction | September 2, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

If you keep a total of 10 RBs and WRs, I doubt they will still keep 9 LBs.

Extra RBs would likely mean less use for a speedy special teams backer like Henson. I would rather see them keep 1 more DLineman like Jarmon and maybe place one of the young RBs on the practice squad.

Posted by: SportzWiz | September 2, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

If Jarmon doesn't make it, that's a shame. Had he not hurt himself at the end of last year, I think he would have played himself onto this squad rather easily.

Barnes/Tryon...I can't ever decide between one or the other...I'll go with the less mouthy, more physical of the two: Barnes.

Danger Will Robinson! Danger! Not so sure about keeping this character, but beggers can't be choosers with the second tier of this line.

Posted by: shaunsherman12 | September 2, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

When did people stop liking Tom Terrific? Brady's the man. It cannot be denied. Two Super Bowl rings. Hot baby mama. Even hotter wife. What's not to like about the dude?

Posted by: learnedhand1 | September 2, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

In my opinion, it's far more likely that the ARC has experienced more successful blood drives in MD and VA than DC, and only has limited resources with which to conduct this particular event. I don't think race has anything to do with it.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | September 2, 2010 3:06 PM

The event is being conducted and funded by the Redskins. The headquarters of the ARC is in Washington, not Virginia or Maryland. It would cost nothing to collect blood, for the ARC, at the ARC headquarters.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 2, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

"...the Redskins face the Arizona Cardinals in preseason finale Friday night at University of Phoenix Stadium. And, obviously, things could change after tonight's game."

TGIF

Posted by: swowra | September 2, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

TGIT!

Posted by: frediefritz | September 2, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Anyone think this incomplete without the PS?

Posted by: registc | September 2, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

So if I give blood tomorrow...I get a ticket to next sundays game? Does it come with a parking pass? And tailgate club?

Posted by: PlayAction | September 2, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

That seems like a pretty good take. Only a few quibbles - I don't think it makes sense to keep Daniels AND Holliday who are both likely in their last year as NFL'ers. I'd think it makes sense to keep Jarmon over the lower rated of the other two. Jarmon is super athletic and has shown promise despite having to play three positions in the last year and change twice in this off-season. I'd like to hold on to Capers, but maybe he and Cook are destined for the practice squad. The same goes for Daryl Young. I would also predict that wr #6 will be a guy who is not currently on the roster.

Posted by: thinker11 | September 2, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Jeez beep, picking a fight with the blood drive spammer?

Posted by: mack1 | September 2, 2010 3:10 PM

Hoping to draw blood, mack. I think I'll turn the whole thing into Channel 4 news. They love a good racism slant.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 2, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Wish 'ol Professor Tom at the top of the page could decide which side of his frickin head he's going to part his hair on.

LMFAO!!

Posted by: stevek20147 | September 2, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Westbrook has already been cut.

Posted by: Ehren | September 2, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse
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It was my understanding yesterday that the report that he had been cut was incorrect. Perhaps I'm mistaken. He's still listed on the roster on the Redskins website.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | September 2, 2010 3:14 PM |

Nope, you are correct. It is Ehren that is mistaken.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 2, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Westbrook has already been cut.

Posted by: Ehren | September 2, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse
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It was my understanding yesterday that the report that he had been cut was incorrect. Perhaps I'm mistaken. He's still listed on the roster on the Redskins website.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | September 2, 2010 3:14 PM |

Nope, you are correct. It is Ehren that is mistaken.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 2, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

"Because they liked Beck... even though he's been less than impressive during his NFL tenure."


They also know Rex Grossman's ceiling is just as high as an inexperienced quarterback who, unlike him, doesn't make as many turnovers.

Rex clumsiness makes him equal to Beck, in other words.

My money says Beck's holding the clipboard next year while some drafted young'n learns the q-back position.

And that guy, not Beck, replaces D Mac in the event of a complete meltdown.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 2, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

beep-beep may be on to something here. Not only are they not doing it in DC but the Maryland and Virginia locations are in suburbs far from the District line. The Skins play in PG (sometimes referred to as Ward 9) but the blood drive is in Damascus, an area of Montgomery County that... let's just say it's very homogeneous. And everyone knows the only blacks in Ashburn play for or previously played for the Redskins.

Get 'em beep-beep. And don't let the Red Cross off of the hook either. :/

Posted by: learnedhand1 | September 2, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Two possible ideas.......not racism


1) a certain demographic in the past proved to be more likely to give blood.....ie. why they would go there

2) perhaps different demographics have higher percentages of certain types of blood and therefore they are targeting their needed types

Or you are all just racist!

Posted by: rupertpupkin | September 2, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

beep-beep may be on to something here. Not only are they not doing it in DC but the Maryland and Virginia locations are in suburbs far from the District line. The Skins play in PG (sometimes referred to as Ward 9) but the blood drive is in Damascus, an area of Montgomery County that... let's just say it's very homogeneous. And everyone knows the only blacks in Ashburn play for or previously played for the Redskins.

Get 'em beep-beep. And don't let the Red Cross off of the hook either. :/

Posted by: learnedhand1 | September 2, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse
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The locations of the blood drives and obvious primary racial makeup of the surrounding populations doesn't necessarily mean that there's a malicious intent on the part of the ARC. There could be a million reasons why they are taking it to Damascus. That's a pretty odd place to go, in my opinion, so I'd bet there's a particular reason it was chosen. If the ARC/Redskins wanted to pick the richest, most lilly-white area in MD with the intent of excluding African-Americans it seems more likely to me that they'd go to someplace like Silver Spring or Bethesda, not so far off the beaten path as Damascus. Ashburn is obviously a great location to have any Redskins event considering the team HQ is there.

I think one would have to delve into the motives of the selection of these locations before determining whether the arguably disparate impact of those locations is due to a racial bias or some other unrelated factor.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | September 2, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Im in agreeance with most of the roster, however, I would probably keep Jarmon over Blades. I haven't seen much from him this preseason and the two times that I did see him, he took horrible angles on tackles that ended up going for big gains. I think that Henson has shown enough to warrant a spot on the final roster. I also have seen a little more from Ramzee Robinson and Tryon then Kevin Barnes. Their skill sets are pretty similar so "Push" on that 3rd CB.

Posted by: myeldell | September 2, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

"Message from the Redskins to the citizens of the District of Columbia: "Your blood is so full of AIDS and other diseases we don't want it..."

Posted by: beep-beep | September 2, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse"

And if this is the message, so what?

The primary goal is a blood drive, not a charity handout. DC has an HIV epidemic. That's not racist, that's a fact. Political correctness be damned; ARC wants clean blood, not the risk of transmitting HIV unknowingly through blood transfusions.

Posted by: psps23 | September 2, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: skinsfan713 | September 2, 2010 3:30 PM

Slow down Skinsfan and rupert. I was making fun of beep-beep. Notice the :/ at the end.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | September 2, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

And if this is the message, so what?

Posted by: psps23 | September 2, 2010 3:31 PM

It's a racist organization, just like back in the days when it wouldn't inject blacks' blood into whites or vice versa. So what? What's wrong with a little racism in the name of pure Aryan blood?

The way you ensure blood doesn't transmit AIDS is to test the blood, not to selectively draw it from a chosen demographic.

Posted by: beep-beep | September 2, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

This look at the roster looks fair. Interesting that they are projecting only for corners given the teams we face this year.

Posted by: TWISI | September 2, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Since his Panthers play this evening, does anyone think HB Blades will actually replace London at some point. I think he is a great special teamer, but i just dont see him as a starting MIC. First of anyone that replaces London has some massive shoes to fill, that is if London ever needs replacing the guy has to be at least part robot.
Im just wondering long term about HB,the coaches obviously have a lot of trust in him but guys like Perry Riley come out every year, PR looks pretty good. Its hard to keep your spot as just a backup in this league.

Posted by: Stu27 | September 2, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: iH8dallas | September 2, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Tom Brady ads at the top of Redskin Insider page.

How bush league!!!

How minor league!!

Good grief, have a Redskin current or historical, player, coach, owner at the top of a REDSKIN page!!!

Good grief, how rinky dink, can RI be?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 2, 2010 2:57 PM

Hey, at least it's not the ugly mug of some hated division rival QB, like Romo, Manning or McN.....

Nevermind.

Posted by: Alan4 | September 2, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: skinsfan713 | September 2, 2010 3:30 PM

Slow down Skinsfan and rupert. I was making fun of beep-beep. Notice the :/ at the end.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | September 2, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

My bad I wasn't really going after you........just fanning the fire a little!

Posted by: rupertpupkin | September 2, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

"Sorry, albeit from me to interupt an argument, but for someone accusing another of not being educated, you could at least have less than 10 errors in your typing, just saying......"

Hilarious. You may want to look up the word "albeit" before you criticize another person's typing errors. Just saying...

oh internet!

Posted by: jva1 | September 2, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Personally I'd rather see Jarmon make the team than Holliday...youth..

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | September 2, 2010 2:30 PM | Report abuse
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Exactly... You tell a guy to lose a bunch of weight... then Oh, we're sorry, now gain it all back... That may have taken away some of his strength during camp. I don't like us just throwing all these draft picks away. He has to have value... If he doesn't fit, maybe we can get a trade before cuts.

Posted by: tony325 | September 2, 2010 2:39 PM
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Greg..I agree with you on Jarmon

Tony..dude this is only JReid and staff's opinion..don't take it as truth...remember JReid gets his info from "people close to the situation" and in this case people he "Trust" at redskin park...so dont forget that the WaPo has no juice with the Redskins...and no one at the park "trust" the WaPo

Posted by: jcnjcnj | September 2, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

"The way you ensure blood doesn't transmit AIDS is to test the blood, not to selectively draw it from a chosen demographic.

Posted by: beep-beep"

I know you're just arguing for the hell of it...

Anyway, testing will undoubtedly happen. Still doesn't negate the fact that testing infected blood wastes time and money, or that even mistakes happen in testing processes. Choosing from a selected demographic or demographics does not ensure cleanliness, but it does lower the risk.

Posted by: psps23 | September 2, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

i'd rather have roydell williams over austin or banks. one of the mighty mini's has to go to the p.s., we could use another sturdy WR with good hands. he could be a good 3rd down kind of reciever.

Posted by: destewar | September 2, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Everyone knows Damascus has the tastiest blood in the area. Common knowledge folks.

Posted by: Section104 | September 2, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

There is no way that London should be called a "Feltcher". IT IS JUST NOT RIGHT!! And to say Haslett loves "Feltcher" is way too presumptuous! Leave it in the locker room, Reid!

Posted by: coolcraig | September 2, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

JR, I hope you're right because I'd love to keep Austin and Banks both, but you have no backup FB for old, injury prone Big Mike. And no back up NT (Albert really should be playing DE).

Posted by: bigfoot1 | September 2, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

We must keep Jarmon. He will be a great player in a couple of years either here or somewhere else. I vote for here.

Posted by: kmfuss | September 2, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

I don't see them keeping 6 receivers. Banks and Austin fulfill the same role, so one will stay and one will go.

I also think they will keep 5 CBs and 5 Safeties, due to Moore's injury. They have to keep 10 DBs in order to have 9 available for the first 6 weeks.

Lastly, they will keep Darrel Young instead of Keiland Williams.

Posted by: Wemiss21 | September 2, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Maybe since Damascus is a dry town they think people won't show up for blood draws drunk. Cos who would dare travel to the evil Germantown for booze.

Posted by: bgmathis | September 2, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

A fight over a blood drive...wow. Actions in the past you'd think would be pretty safe are now open to all sorts of freaky interpretations about motives...but then everyone still going on and on about it like there is a real issue here and the Redskins blog is the place to take your stand and make a call too arms...wow. But now I've added my 2 cents worth so I guess I'm just as much a pin head as the rest of the bunch.

I always wonder how the posts get off topic from the story...at least we could track this...

Anyway I just hope Jarmon makes the team. Maybe just maybe, we let LJ and Fast Willie go (neither have really shown much) and run with Clinton and the 2 young guns. Running backs are a dime a dozen in this league anymore - and once a line gels almost any decent back can run behind them - especially a Shannahan line.

Posted by: Craightond | September 2, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Selvish Capers > William Robinson

Posted by: merajc86 | September 2, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Did you actually watch film of these guys, or you just going based on one being drafted and one was not. Look at our 2008 draft, we kept all ten of them, and like 9 of them are worthless....

Posted by: BarackObama | September 2, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Tryon and Jarmon will be scooped up by other teams if the Skins cut them loose. I'd be okay with the Skins picking up Patrick Crayton (and cutting either Austin or Banks) once he gets chopped in Dallas.

Posted by: coparker5 | September 2, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

No to Will Robinson. The guy is a train wreck. He makes Heyer look good. I suspect there will be a waiver wire pick up on O line before too long.

Kyle Calloway got cut the other day. He might be worth signing to the practice squad for a look, being that he was the starting RT at Zone Blocking University (Iowa). At 6-7 315, he's the right size, and was projected to go in the middle rounds (I think he was picked early in the 7th by Buffalo...) Maybe?

Seems like O line and WR might get some new faces.

Posted by: edvar | September 2, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Selvish Capers > Will Robinson
Chad Rinehart > Will Montgomery
Jeremy Jarmon > Vonnie Holliday
Rob Jackson > H.B. "my bad" Blades
Justin Tryon > Chris Horton

Not enough CB's on the roster. Plus, I would start Lichtensteiger over Rabach.

Posted by: tramellcanady | September 2, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

A fight over a blood drive...wow. Actions in the past you'd think would be pretty safe are now open to all sorts of freaky interpretations about motives...but then everyone still going on and on about it like there is a real issue here and the Redskins blog is the place to take your stand and make a call too arms...wow. But now I've added my 2 cents worth so I guess I'm just as much a pin head as the rest of the bunch.

I always wonder how the posts get off topic from the story...at least we could track this...

Anyway I just hope Jarmon makes the team. Maybe just maybe, we let LJ and Fast Willie go (neither have really shown much) and run with Clinton and the 2 young guns. Running backs are a dime a dozen in this league anymore - and once a line gels almost any decent back can run behind them - especially a Shannahan line.

Posted by: Craightond | September 2, 2010 5:16 PM | Report abuse

I'd drop Austin for Roydell (a little bigger)... and Paulsen for one of the TE/FB hybrids... Jarmon needs to make the team and so does Tryon... and haven't seen enough from Holliday or Henson to guarantee them anything... Buchanon hasn't shown jack and may be a bust and i don't know how much we're paying him... i'm not sure you need Keiland and Torain... pick one... and maybe Rinehart if you still have room... depth at O-Line is a must

Posted by: danmorrall | September 2, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

If they cut Selvish Capers or Jeremy Jarmon I will be p`ed off and sad!! These two players can make this team much better! Please think of the future and not have a win now attitude! Talk about Quality backup! This team needs these two players on this team! Why in the world do you draft D-Mo if your just going to throw him away? Then cut the player that you got for him the same day! WTF?! I think the ghost of Vinny is haunting the front office!I say again WTF?

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | September 2, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

I think Jarmon makes it over one the guys, either henson, goldston or phillips daniels.

Posted by: gatsu | September 2, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

danmorrall:

Phillip Buchannon forced the Santonio Holmes fumble in the Jets game, it was a thing of beauty.

He is proven depth at a vital position.

Posted by: Wemiss21 | September 2, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

t.j. houshmandzadeh's on the trading block.

Posted by: zatoichi77 | September 2, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Can't see them only keeping one fullback. Sellers is tough but he is 35 and has a bad knee. Also cannot see them keeping Blades. He missed the tackle on the fake punt in the Ravens game and missed LT at the line of scrimmage in the Jets game. Did anyone see "hard knocks" when Ryan was screaming at D Hall that he "wasn't going to tackle anybody anyway, that's why my brother got rid of your ass in Oakland." What a jerk, comes by it naturally though.

Posted by: rmcpks73 | September 2, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Gee I did not know Reid was making the final cuts. What a waste of electrons. Why don't we all just wait until Sat. and we can have a real discussion about the roster instead of a hypothetic roster as presented here. If you want predictions, how about 9-7 (or 10-6) and a 23-13 win on week one.

Posted by: scoot21 | September 2, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

T William Robinson, G/C Will Montgomery.

I think one of those two if not both won't be on the roster. No way we Keep 2 Centers And if Heyer and I think that Selvish Capers makes it over those two. I'm not sold on them keeping 10 OL either. Which would free a spot for Jarmon I think.

Posted by: Veretax | September 3, 2010 12:16 AM | Report abuse

When was the last time Philip Daniels made a play? Keeping him over Jarmon is absurd.

Posted by: jj250 | September 3, 2010 8:22 AM | Report abuse

I don't see them keeping 5 inside linebackers and 5 DE's with only one NT. I think if Maake goes down and AH has to play NT full-time the defense will drop off drastically. Not becaue AH is a drop-off. But because who ever replaces AH at end will be a drop-off. I don't think you lose a whole lot going from Maake to say Bryant. Not like you would going from AH to say Golston or Holliday. Not a huge AH fan but he seems motivated and he does push his guy back into the backfield on a regular basis.

Posted by: renhoekk2 | September 3, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

When was the last time Philip Daniels made a play? Keeping him over Jarmon is absurd.

Posted by: jj250 - Answer: 2005!

Based on JR's list above I think the following players will be cut/ir/added to roster

IR
Henson (Looked awesome. Stash on IR)

Cut
Daniels (Washed up & just plain old)
Williams (probably can be snuck onto practice squad)

Add to roster
Tryon (need an extra corner)
Jarmon (DL/LB hybrid, plus young)
Some o-lineman

Posted by: jimc93 | September 3, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Does this mean our third rounder from Iowa is gonzo?

Posted by: ElYeah | September 3, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

H.B. Blades is out. Played autrociously against the Cards. Always out of position, and slow to react.

Posted by: ktp70 | September 3, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

So, more or less, we wasted a third round pick on Jarmon and a fourth round pick on Tryon. Good job, Vinny!

Posted by: baskert | September 3, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Best typo ever: "Shanahan and defensive coordinator Jim Haslett just love Feltcher"

Posted by: Reader1000 | September 3, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

the RB Torraine runs too upright and will get pummeled in a real game. i would go with Willie Parker.

Posted by: oknow1 | September 3, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

I'd say:

Justin Tryon over Kevin Barnes
Selvish Capers over Montgomery

and somebody please tell Fat Albert the buffet is on the other end of the street. Cut this fool!

GO SKINS!!! DALLAS WEEK!!!

Posted by: datruth21 | September 3, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

PLEASE,PLEASE keep Jarmon and Capers!! They can only get better!! BTW, F-Dallas!!

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | September 3, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Keeping 10 O-Linemen will never happen. And with so many skill position players on the WaPo roster it looks more like a bad fantasy team (Gene Wong) than an NFL team.

The truth is that the beat guys are still eating up what the Skins' coaches are feeding them. Saying that Will Robinson will make the team is a classic example. I'm sure plenty of coaches were saying nice things about this guy, but he is a PS player.

And based on the way Jarmon was being used only in passing situations and getting good pressure, I think that is the plan coaches have for using him. That means he is going to make it.

Posted by: SportzWiz | September 4, 2010 1:12 AM | Report abuse

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