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Joey Galloway brings experience, leadership to Redskins' WRs


There was no mistaking newly-signed wide receiver Joey Galloway among the large number of wide receivers who were in the Redskins' minicamp last weekend. Not with a salt-and-pepper beard that gives away the age of the 38-year-old wideout entering his 16th season in the NFL.

Signed to a contract shortly after the team's first minicamp last month, Galloway'provides another veteran voice and more experience to a unit that has lacked a proven threat behind No. 1 receiver Santana Moss.

What Galloway's precise role in the offense could be has not been made clear. Right now he could be considered the No. 4 receiver behind Moss and third-year wideouts Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly. The veteran said coaches have not discussed with him the specifics of what his role could be.

"Not at all," he said. "No, it's strap on my helmet, go out there and get to work."

But with a career forged around speed and the ability to get deep, the Redskins likely hope they may be able to recreate at least the production he turned in with Tampa Bay in 2007, when he caught 57 passes for 1,014 yards and six touchdowns.

"The guy still can run," said quarterback Donovan McNabb. "And it is good that myself and Phillip Daniels aren't the oldest ones on the team. But you know what the thing about it is, with the veteran leadership, it'll definitely help with the young guys we have on this team of being able to set the tone and knowing that he's been in certain situations and knows how to handle it. He's learning just like we are in this offense and he has an opportunity to make some big plays for us."

McNabb aged Galloway even more when he recalled watching his new teammate play with Warren Moon in Seattle in the 1990s. But despite his age, McNabb believes Galloway can still provide the same values he has given to quarterbacks since he first started playing in 1995.

"The thing about it is, when you have guys like that that come in and can get downfield," McNabb said, "you start to gain more and more confidence."

By Paul Tenorio  |  May 11, 2010; 7:25 AM ET
Categories:  wide receivers  
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Comments

I miss Marko

Posted by: KingME1 | May 11, 2010 7:34 AM | Report abuse

WOw...

Posted by: WRBD | May 11, 2010 7:34 AM | Report abuse

old guns not young guns lol

Posted by: terryreece | May 11, 2010 7:47 AM | Report abuse

Relying on a 38 year old wr is comical. That coupled with a crappy oline equals another losing season. I don't see how anyone can see the team competing for the NFC east this year. Rookie LT and a 38 year old wr. Wow!

Posted by: srobert1117 | May 11, 2010 7:49 AM | Report abuse

yikes, all kinds of piss and vinegar up here early......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 11, 2010 8:01 AM | Report abuse

Relying on a 38 year old wr is comical. That coupled with a crappy oline equals another losing season. I don't see how anyone can see the team competing for the NFC east this year. Rookie LT and a 38 year old wr. Wow!

Posted by: srobert1117 | May 11, 2010 7:49 AM


Come down off the ledge, dude...if this team loses this year, it's gonna have to do with a lot more than just having a rookie LT and a 38 year-old WR. You act like Williams was a 7th round pick and Galloway is competing to be the #1 WR or something...there's nothing wrong with having a 38 year-old WR for depth purposes and a #4 overall picking starting right away. Hell, we'd have problems if Williams ISN'T starting...

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 11, 2010 8:01 AM | Report abuse

learnedhand1

"Friends, Five Minutes of Funk and Freaks Come Out at Night were written and performed by the Rapper Jalil and Ecstasy aka Whodini."


My gawd, how could I make such a mistake when I spend two years mixing those songs at house parties?

I stand corrected.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 11, 2010 8:06 AM | Report abuse

What happens if Moss gets hurt, who starts? Do you really feel comfortable starting the season with that thought?

Posted by: 2ndtierfan | May 11, 2010 8:10 AM | Report abuse

he said. "No, it's strap on my helmet, go out there and get to work."

What more does anyone want from a teammate? Winning teams in any endeavor are made of this ethic. Talent? Talent has value only when it goes to w-o-r-k. I don't care who the player, say Haynesworth for instance, greatness comes from going to work.
At the highest levels, it isn't the genius or the physically gifted, it's the person who gets out there and does all the work, plus a little bit more. It's the key to greatness whether in athletics, academia, business, or love. Being wonderful only goes so far.

Posted by: MrChili | May 11, 2010 8:12 AM | Report abuse

2nd, if Moss gets hurt, lets see what MK/DT can do....time to see what these kids can do, make or break, they've got a legit HC, and now a legit QB, so training wheels off, and lets go to the top of the hill.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 11, 2010 8:12 AM | Report abuse

I'm with Greg on that...while I'm down on Kelly, he was a 2nd round pick. Time to rally up. I'm not as worried about Thomas because he was the highest rated WR on most boards going into the '08 and we technically got some pretty good value by picking him where we did. We don't need those two guys to be elite (though it would be nice), we just need 'em to be solid starters.

What so many forget with Shanahan is that his WRs in Denver weren't #1 picks. Rod Smith was undrafted and Ed McCaffery was no better than a mid round pick, if I recall correctly. Brandon Marshall was a 4th rounder. If he can't get a good level of production from at least Devin Thomas, he's not who we think he is.

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 11, 2010 8:27 AM | Report abuse

Here's to hoping the the o-line can hold their blocks long enough for the speedsters to get down the field.

Whodini and house parties in the 80's are such wonderful memories.

Posted by: smokeybear2 | May 11, 2010 8:34 AM | Report abuse

Run DMC too.

Posted by: smokeybear2 | May 11, 2010 8:37 AM | Report abuse

And for a reason -- first place votes were all they had. This isn't the Heisman where they vote first, second, third. You're making this stuff up again. This is from PFT:

"Meanwhile, since the AP apparently is in the mood to "get it right," how about considering a new voting system that awards points for first place, second place, and third place, instead of merely casting one vote per voter?"

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/10/ap-will-redo-defensive-roy-vote-with-cushing-as-a-candidate/

When you're in a hole, stop digging Deisel44 and slinging around your pissy insults.

Posted by: beep-beep | May 11, 2010 5:57 AM

It's more like when you've struck oil, quit digging. Unless Orakpo's PR firm is out there campaigning and talking about what a tremendous offseason he's had, how would 3rd become 1st if Cushing is DQ'ed?

If you ain't first, you're last.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 11, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

By Paul Tenorio | May 11, 2010; 7:25 AM ET

what a puff piece, Tenorio. You're wearing Redskins.Com gloves...
Why not mention at least, once, the recent blowup that occurred with the Pats and Belichick last year? Ref performance, preparation and playbook problems.. It led to his abrupt release by the 3rd game of the season and was headline news at the time (sports page).

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | May 11, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

westjr88:

Still up in NY harbor?

Posted by: glawrence007 | May 11, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

"...the Redskins likely hope they may be able to recreate at least the production he turned in with Tampa Bay in 2007, when he caught 57 passes for 1,014 yards and six touchdowns."


It's sad that the team can't openly expect this kind of production from M Kelly and D Thomas.

I'd bet the house that Galloway winds up with better production than either player.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 11, 2010 8:40 AM | Report abuse

moe, are you kidding me? Is that serious?? I mean given that Galloway did so well in NE and all, I can see how you'd come to that....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 11, 2010 8:43 AM | Report abuse

Come down off the ledge, dude...if this team loses this year, it's gonna have to do with a lot more than just having a rookie LT and a 38 year-old WR. You act like Williams was a 7th round pick and Galloway is competing to be the #1 WR or something...there's nothing wrong with having a 38 year-old WR for depth purposes and a #4 overall picking starting right away. Hell, we'd have problems if Williams ISN'T starting...
Posted by: brownwood26 | May 11, 2010 8:01 AM

The problem is that they felt the need to bring in Galloway. Clearly Shanahan is not comfortable with what he is seeing out of Thomas and Kelly at wr. These guys are not rookies.

Starting any rookie at LT is a scary thought. It does not matter where they were drafted. It is not like they are plugging him into a solid well coached line where they can make some adjustments to account for his inexperience. They are plugging him into a line in which there are only 2 decent to above average starters. Artis Hicks at RT and Mike Williams at RG? Are you kidding me? McNabb will be lucky to make it through the season alive. While Trent Williams has the most upside of any of the Tackles in the draft he was also the least experienced at LT and not as ready to start as others in the draft. Typically when you take a player like this you put him at guard or RT for a year and let him get his feet wet.

Posted by: srobert1117 | May 11, 2010 8:43 AM | Report abuse

This is for the idiot who came up here yesterday saying Dallas is "going all the way" now that they got this clown:


Barron promises penalties won't be a problem in Dallas
Posted by Michael David Smith on May 11, 2010 7:53 AM ET
In the five seasons since the St. Louis Rams chose him in the first round of the draft, offensive tackle Alex Barron has shown that he has the raw talent to play in the NFL. But he's also shown a penchant for frequent on-field mistakes, including giving up seven sacks and being flagged for a league-high 15 penalties last season.

But now that Barron has been traded to the Dallas Cowboys, he promises he's putting penalties behind him.

"It won't be a problem here," Barron told the Star-Telegram. "I'm ready to get this thing going here in Dallas."

Of course, it's easy to say penalties won't be a problem. But Barron has had five seasons to eliminate his penalty issues, and he hasn't done it.

As Peter King of SI.com noted, Barron's 43 false-start penalties in five seasons call into question his attention to detail and his fervor to be great. No matter how much raw talent Barron has, he can't help the Cowboys until he learns to stop making mistakes.

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 11, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

If he can't get a good level of production from at least Devin Thomas, he's not who we think he is.

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 11, 2010 8:27 AM | Report abuse

Speak for yourself. I'll wait and form my own opinions. Still think MARKO MITCHELL the best of the lot including DAVIS. Of course, we'll have to see how MM fares in DETROIT. DAVIS tips too many balls to DB's, and leaves too many balls on the ground for my taste. Let's see what SHANNY does with this lot.

Posted by: glawrence007 | May 11, 2010 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Typically when you take a player like this you put him at guard or RT for a year and let him get his feet wet.

Posted by: srobert1117 | May 11, 2010 8:43 AM | Report abuse

Only on the bottom feeders of the NFL do you throw unready, but much touted rookies to the wolves.

Posted by: glawrence007 | May 11, 2010 8:48 AM | Report abuse

Typically when you take a player like this you put him at guard or RT for a year and let him get his feet wet.

Posted by: srobert1117 | May 11, 2010 8:43 AM


Right...because that's exactly what we did with Chris Samuels 10 years ago.

Oh wait...no we didn't.

Not saying starting a top OT prospect is the rule, but the Redskins have no business taking Williams that high if they don't think he can start, period. Unless you're taking a QB, whomever you take #4 should be starting Day 1 or chances are you f-ed the pick up.

And I think you overlook the fact that the O-line was horrendous at OT and whatever rookie they got was gonna end up starting whether he's ready or not. The depth chart looks just that bad at that spot.

So if you wanna be Debbie Downer about it, knock yourself out. But with a legit NFL head coach and Pro-Bowl QB at the helm, I give it little to no chance this O-line will be as bad as it was last year.

And stop with the WR stuff...Galloway isn't here to start, he's here for depth. That's not necessarily an indictment against the 2nd rounders as it is the guys behind them on the depth chart.

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 11, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

he said. "No, it's strap on my helmet, go out there and get to work."

What more does anyone want from a teammate? Winning teams in any endeavor are made of this ethic. Talent? Talent has value only when it goes to w-o-r-k. I don't care who the player, say Haynesworth for instance, greatness comes from going to work.
At the highest levels, it isn't the genius or the physically gifted, it's the person who gets out there and does all the work, plus a little bit more. It's the key to greatness whether in athletics, academia, business, or love. Being wonderful only goes so far.

Posted by: MrChili | May 11, 2010 8:12 AM |
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Just ask the Caps how having all that talent is working for them in the playoffs. Montreal out-worked them, and now Montreal is still playing, and the Caps aren't. Work, work, work, work, work, work.

Posted by: Ireland2 | May 11, 2010 8:56 AM | Report abuse

Only on the bottom feeders of the NFL do you throw unready, but much touted rookies to the wolves.

Posted by: glawrence007 | May 11, 2010 8:48 AM

GL- What makes you think we're above the the ocean floor.

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 11, 2010 8:58 AM | Report abuse

beantown

"...are you kidding me? Is that serious?? I mean given that Galloway did so well in NE and all, I can see how you'd come to that..."


Actually, the prediction speaks more to the possible failure of Kelly and Thomas.

Plus, Galloway wasn't given an extended look in NE, and he will get one here in D.C..

It's not that I think Galloway is all that (I'd orefer to give the spot to Marko), but that the young'ns we have might not be.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 11, 2010 8:58 AM | Report abuse

Only on the bottom feeders of the NFL do you throw unready, but much touted rookies to the wolves.

Mark Sanchez say's hello...as does Brian Orakpo, and every other rookie who contributed to their team last year.........

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 11, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Speak for yourself. I'll wait and form my own opinions. Still think MARKO MITCHELL the best of the lot including DAVIS. Of course, we'll have to see how MM fares in DETROIT. DAVIS tips too many balls to DB's, and leaves too many balls on the ground for my taste. Let's see what SHANNY does with this lot.

Posted by: glawrence007 | May 11, 2010 8:44 AM


Why don't you go ahead and call up Canton and get 'em started on that Hall of Fame bust for Marko? Get 'em started on the ones for Leigh Torrance too while you're at it...

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 11, 2010 9:00 AM | Report abuse

Mark Sanchez say's hello...as does Brian Orakpo, and every other rookie who contributed to their team last year.........

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 11, 2010 8:59 AM


So does Brian Cushing...oh wait, bad example...

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 11, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

DAVIS tips too many balls to DB's, and leaves too many balls on the ground for my taste.

Can you back this assertion up with actual facts of how many of each he had??

I don't recall that Davis was a fumbler...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 11, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Overall this was a weak draft for WRs. Nothing like next year, when teams should be looking at Julio Jones, AJ Green, the Irish's Michael Floyd and Jonathan Baldwin of Pitt.

Of course, the last 'weak' WR draft produced DeSean Jackson and Eddie Royal, so there's plenty of reason to think we'll get at least one star out the 2010 class. Dallas thinks it's Dez Bryant, but there are a couple other candidates.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 11, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Speak for yourself. I'll wait and form my own opinions. Still think MARKO MITCHELL the best of the lot including DAVIS. Of course, we'll have to see how MM fares in DETROIT. DAVIS tips too many balls to DB's, and leaves too many balls on the ground for my taste. Let's see what SHANNY does with this lot.

Posted by: glawrence007 | May 11, 2010 8:44 AM

Yea, he proved sooooo much in his time here. glawrence was again putting himself squarely in the lower echelon of RI posters with sports_guru and perineum. Retard...

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 11, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

I don't get why so many are here freaking out over Thomas/Kelly...just about every talent evaluator worth a damn says a WR takes about 3 years to develop. Some are quicker, some take longer...but with a proven offense coming here for the first time in years and a QB who's made a name for himself making mediocre targets look good, I don't know how at worst we all take a "wait and see" approach to these guys. I mean, they'd have to be putrid not to at least be serviceable this year and I haven't seen anything to lead me to believe neither guy is capable of playing at the pro level.

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 11, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Healthy competition......something that is new since Marty was HC. Healthy competion breeds hard work from incumbents and vets that still have the legs. It's an old tried and true philosophy. It's not just at the WR position shanny has done this at the RB and even the TE position. I would suggest that he's doing this at all the skilled positions with the obvious exception, QB. NO MORE SLACKERS!! Holdovers DT and MK are still ??? but they've done better than NFL ready Limas sweed. so I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt. Fred Davis though my friends is legit. Vinny got that one right.

Posted by: sthai75 | May 11, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Julio Jones?

The only 'bama I'd like to see in burgandy n gold is Mark Ingraham.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 11, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Don't worry scamp...just talked to Joe Horrigan at the Pro Football Hall of Fame and he says they've already begun making Marko's bust. Says they'll add him to the 2011 ballot...would have been added to the 2010 ballot had it not been for the Lions saying they wanted to add him to their ring of honor first.

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 11, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Is it me, or is Tiger showing signs of coming off his roid cycle?

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | May 11, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

Talent? Talent has value only when it goes to w-o-r-k. I don't care who the player, say Haynesworth for instance, greatness comes from going to work.
At the highest levels, it isn't the genius or the physically gifted, it's the person who gets out there and does all the work, plus a little bit more. It's the key to greatness whether in athletics, academia, business, or love. Being wonderful only goes so far.

Posted by: MrChili | May 11, 2010 8:12 AM | Report abuse

Greatness results when talent and work ethic come together. There are plenty of players in professional sports who work very hard, but will never be great because they don't have the talent to produce on that level.

Posted by: rbpalmer | May 11, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

DT and MK are still ??? but they've done better than NFL ready Limas sweed.

Posted by: sthai75 | May 11, 2010 9:14 AM


Good point...I remember thinking that Limas would have been a better choice than Davis or Kelly. Loud wrong on that one.

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 11, 2010 9:20 AM | Report abuse

skinsfanintampa

"Is it me, or is Tiger showing signs of coming off his roid cycle?"

What I don't get is that Tiger Woods cheats in his wife with porn stars, and he's the one with a neck injury.

Shouldn't that be the other way around?

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 11, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Other WRs from the 2010 class who might become stars, along with/instead of Bryant:

Demaryeus Thomas, Denver - geez, who drafts a WR from a college team that ran a Wishbone Light offense? Josh McDaniel, I guess. Talk about a learning curve...

Golden Tate, Seattle -- he's fast but 5'10", so they hope they have a QB who can throw deep.

Arrelius Benn, Bucs -- this is one who could surprise. A smart player, not just an athlete.

Emmanuel Sanders, Steelers -- another speedster. You could see them thinking about Santonio Holmes when they made this pick.

Guys who weren't drafted but should have been:

Jeremy Williams, Tulane -- quality possession receiver, probably should have gone in the 4th or 5th round.

Brandon Banks, K-State: -- the one we signed. Probably the second-fastest after Jacoby Ford. Should have gone in the last round. If he were two inches taller and twenty pounds heavier, would have been picked in round 5, if only because of his value as a returner.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 11, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Personally, I doubt Galloway or Wade will be on the roster at the beginning of the regular season. If one of them is, I am betting it is Wade because he is more likely to stay in one piece.

The rather more pressing concern for the passing game is will the new coaching staff find a way to stop Fred Davis from trying to hurdle people. If they can't, can they find a way to teach him to get a bit higher so that it has a hope in hell of working.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | May 11, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

samson151

"Demaryeus Thomas, Denver - geez, who drafts a WR from a college team that ran a Wishbone Light offense?"

Youtube this guy, and you'll see him catch passes in a way that answers your question.

He's a huge, not big, target, and catches the ball well.

And coming from a wishbone-lite O, you know he can block downfield--something only the truly good receivers do well.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 11, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

Just ask the Caps how having all that talent is working for them in the playoffs. Montreal out-worked them, and now Montreal is still playing, and the Caps aren't. Work, work, work, work, work, work.

Posted by: Ireland2 | May 11, 2010 8:56 AM | Report abuse

I disagree. The Caps outplayed the Habs except in net for the majority of that series. Halak, Halak, Halak, Halak. He's why Montreal is still playing and Washington isn't.

Posted by: rbpalmer | May 11, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Tiger got whiplash in the dominatrix's dungeun..

De La Soul and Tribe Called Quest were good 90 rap bands..

Brian Cushing:

"FUZZY WUZZY WUZZN'T VERWEE FUZZEE , WUZZHEE???"

Nuke 'em ALL, Let God Sort 'Em Out, Scamp..

Posted by: frak | May 11, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

"The veteran said coaches have not discussed with him the specifics of what his role could be."

That's because he has none other than to be an example to the youngstas. He's not going to make the team. He's finished as an every Sunday much less every down player in the NFL.
2008 - 13 recs. 138 yds
2009 - released by Pats in October after being inactive for his final 3 weeks with team. Signed by Steelers in December and didn't play a down.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 11, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Fred Davis from trying to hurdle people. If they can't, can they find a way to teach him to get a bit higher so that it has a hope in hell of working.

Posted by: WeNeedLinemen | May 11, 2010 9:25 AM


I tell you what, I'm a fan of the old "earl campbell" running style. Rare because LB are so big and strong now a days, but I haven't seen a redskin bull doze the way Davis runs. Once he has the ball he's turning it up field and inflicting the hits. I get more of a rush from some defender getting laid out than scoring TD.

Posted by: sthai75 | May 11, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

"I disagree. The Caps outplayed the Habs except in net for the majority of that series. Halak, Halak, Halak, Halak. He's why Montreal is still playing and Washington isn't."

I agree. Been watching the whole Pens/Habs series as well.

Halak was amazing, but the Habs also blocked a ton of shots. They are frustrating the Pens doing the same thing, except the Pens PP seems to be working and Caps only scored one goal on thiers.

The Caps defense is very lacking also, they really need to address that in the offseason.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | May 11, 2010 9:42 AM | Report abuse

"But with a career forged around speed and the ability to get deep, the Redskins likely hope they may be able to recreate at least the production [Gallowasy} turned in with Tampa Bay in 2007, when he caught 57 passes for 1,014 yards and six touchdowns."

At least? You're kidding me. That's 17.8 yards a catch, and a TD ratio of 10.5%. You get production like that, Shanahan will be turning cartwheels in his bedroom.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 11, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Also it looks like I'm going to have to change my screen name next month to...

skinsfanbackindcfor6monthsbywayoftampa

I hope that one isn't taken...

Any good recommendations for lunch/happy hour spots in the McPherson Square area of DC would be appreciated!

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | May 11, 2010 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Wow...from PFT:

Cushing tested positive for same substance as Manny Ramirez
Posted by Michael David Smith on May 11, 2010 9:34 AM ET
Although neither Brian Cushing nor anyone associated with the NFL has said what, exactly, Houston Texans linebacker Brian Cushing took to trigger a positive performance-enhancing drug test, a new report says he tested positive for Human chorionic gonadotropin, or hCG.

That's the same substance that got Manny Ramirez of the Los Angeles Dodgers suspended for 50 games of the 2009 Major League Baseball season.

Adam Schefter of ESPN tweets that Cushing tested positive for elevated levels of hCG. According to Wikipedia, hCG is commonly used during and after steroid cycles to maintain and restore testicular size as well as normal testosterone production.

Schefter also tweeted that hCG is in seminal fluid, and slightly elevated levels can be discovered in the event that a test occurs soon after ejaculation.

So perhaps that will be Cushing's spin: He had recently ejaculated at the time he was asked for a urine sample, and that's why he came up positive. But the bottom line is simple: The league has decided that elevated levels of hCG are enough to constitute evidence of cheating, and the union has agreed. So Cushing's elevated levels of hCG were a violation of league rules, and he'll have to serve a four-game suspension because he violated those rules.

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 11, 2010 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Still talking rap? What is that, like 4 days now? Jeez.

At least it's 80's/90's so I have a clue.

Pete Rock & CL Smooth, Leaders of the New School, Eric B & Rakim, and Black Sheep get love from this cracka.

I can see Galloway maybe on the team in a Keenan McCardell/Irving Friar/Henry Ellard type of role. Nothing else, though.

Posted by: Original_etrod | May 11, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Unless Orakpo's PR firm is out there campaigning and talking about what a tremendous offseason he's had, how would 3rd become 1st if Cushing is DQ'ed?

Posted by: Diesel44 | May 11, 2010 8:38 AM |

You know, Diesel44, for a guy who doesn't even understand how they vote, you sure do bring a lot of attitude to this.

Here was the voting: Cushing 39, Buffalo safety Jairus Byrd 6, Green Bay linebacker Clay Matthews 3 and Orakpo 2. Tell the 39 people who voted for Cushing "Dude's a cheater." Assume 9 of them don't care. Other 30 switch their votes. Say, 15 vote Orakpo. He's up to 17. Other 15 split among the three. Orakpo wins.

I'm not saying it's going to happen. I am saying that it could happen. That's why they're going to vote again -- because after Matthews, none of the other guys stood out in the balloting.

Hope this helps clear it up for you, but I have the feeling that you're ready to bring another of your girly-slap insults because you seem to have run out of fresh ideas.

Posted by: beep-beep | May 11, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

brown, wow...thanks for posting....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 11, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

So Cushing's elevated levels of hCG were a violation of league rules, and he'll have to serve a four-game suspension because he violated those rules.

I love seeing high profiled athletes getting busted!!CHEATERS!!!!

Posted by: sthai75 | May 11, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

If Galloway plays as well as fryer or ellard did with the skins it will be a heckuva signing, those two oldsters balled for the skins, especially ellard. Ellard is one of my post 93 skins.

Posted by: chrislarry | May 11, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Yea, he proved sooooo much in his time here. glawrence was again putting himself squarely in the lower echelon of RI posters with sports_guru and perineum. Retard...

Posted by: scampbell1975 | May 11, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Hello fool. Been missing you sweetie. I see you're still as stupid as ever.

Posted by: glawrence007 | May 11, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

"I can see Galloway maybe on the team in a Keenan McCardell/Irving Friar/Henry Ellard type of role. Nothing else, though."


The polite term is 'possession receiver'.

In DEA parlance, it means you're the guy caught with the sack of white powder just after the 'buy' goes down.

In the NFL, it means you're a vet who knows how to move the chains.

In either event, we'll all be numb and alert if Galloway is on the roster outperforming MK and DT.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 11, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

"[Demaryius Thomas is] a huge, not big, target, and catches the ball well.And coming from a wishbone-lite O, you know he can block downfield--something only the truly good receivers do well.Posted by: MistaMoe"

He's a formidable athlete, all right. But don't the experts say that WRs need at least two seasons before they come into their own? He might have a little farther to go, since he's sloppy with his routes and appears to have lapses in concentration, alternating the big catch with the big drop. As far as downfield blocking, he should have a big advantage because of his size, but he doesn't exploit it.

Guy's got a lot to learn. Maybe Josh McDaniels can hurry it along.

Then again, Josh took Tim Tebow.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 11, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Ellard is one of my post 93 skins.

Posted by: chrislarry | May 11, 2010 9:52 AM


One of my faves too...I don't remember what the number was, but there was some stat illustrating that damn near all his catches were for first downs. One of the most underrated WRs in NFL history, IMO.

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 11, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

"But you know what the thing about it is, with the veteran leadership, it'll definitely help with the young guys we have on this team of being able to set the tone and knowing that he's been in certain situations and knows how to handle it."

Translation - We cut MArko Mitchell to have an on the field coach to continue the advancement of DT11 and MK12....

4th's Thoughts: I like the idea, plus we'll get some OTF production....especially if one of them (or Santana) goes down....

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 11, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

"Then again, Josh took Tim Tebow."

It's not that he took Tebow, but when.

I don't remember seeing Tebow listed as a 1st rounder anywhere, so, perhaps the broncos could've waited before pouncing on him.

Too, how confident is K Orton at this point?

No one drafts a 1st round quarterback with Tebow's possible star power (they'll be a ton of stories about his success or failure, think about it) and leaves him on the bench.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 11, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

"The polite term is 'possession receiver'.

In the NFL, it means you're a vet who knows how to move the chains."

"Knows how to move the chains" Haven't the Skins struggled with this concept for like, I don't know, a decade plus??

Seems like just moving the chains is a key part of football.....I am pro any mutha humpa than can get some first downs occasionally...or egads....regularly!

Posted by: chrislarry | May 11, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

"we'll all be numb and alert"

1 outta two is a start..

Posted by: frak | May 11, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

As I put my hind sight vision goggles on I see that this would have been a good year to be more aggressive with the better free agent WRs that were out there. ARE wasn’t as bad as people made him out to be unless he wanted to go, so. Oh, and didn’t he have 57 catches or so last year? I’m just not liken’ what I see in MK/DT. Could be more crow to eat but?

2nd tier players…Those are the ones I like though. It’s like used car sales, you have some that burn tires and some that burn oil. Soon, I’ll have a new crop of seconds to root for.

Posted by: 2ndtierfan | May 11, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

I don't remember seeing Tebow listed as a 1st rounder anywhere, so, perhaps the broncos could've waited before pouncing on him.

No one drafts a 1st round quarterback with Tebow's possible star power (they'll be a ton of stories about his success or failure, think about it) and leaves him on the bench.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 11, 2010 10:11 AM

I don't think it was much of a reach. Peter King had projected him in the first round.

Nobody? Not even Green Bay? Aaron Rodgers was the 24th pick in the draft and sat for three years. Jason Campbell followed him and #25 and he sat for a year and a half. Tim Tebow was the 25th pick -- same as Jason Campbell.

Posted by: beep-beep | May 11, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Seems like just moving the chains is a key part of football.....I am pro any mutha humpa than can get some first downs occasionally...or egads....regularly!

Posted by: chrislarry | May 11, 2010 10:14 AM


That's actually in the dictionary explaination to Monk, Arthur James

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 11, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Today's Best Headline:

"Governor Arnold Schwarznegger would have spoken in Arizona, but he was afraid of getting deported"

This is true.

Arnold reportedly left the State of Arizona so quickly that he forgot to tell a frightened group of Mexican illegals to come with him if they wanted to live.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 11, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

If they signed Joey Galloway just so he can be a "player coach" for Kelly and Thomas, then I'm starting to lean towards Cork's opinion on Kelly and Thomas.


Yes, Marko wasn't anything more but potential at this point, but cutting a guy and replacing him with a vet who'll more than likely contribute nothing on the field and just be some sort of tutor for Kelly and Thomas seems counterintuitive.

Bringing in Galloway says a lot about Kelly and Thomas' inability to grasp what it takes to succeed at the NFL level and going into year three, that's sort of offputting.

Anyway, here's to hoping that they "get it" and beast out in 2010 and beyond.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 11, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

^^^Red....But if one fails, then it also gives the team a chance to still succeed with Galloway getting more PT....MArko wouldn't put out the same production in the current year as Galloway would...Marko was 3/4 year project in the 1st place....We got 2 excellent young WRs already ahead of him...both expected to have breakout yearsthis season.....


And you know I am straight up wit this ish cuz Galloway is a Buckeye.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 11, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

I don't think bringing in Galloway says anything about Kelly and Thomas other than the coach wants them to earn their jobs. He's brought in competition everywhere and WR is no different.

Posted by: Original_etrod | May 11, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

...and to me, bringing Galloway in as a mentor would say more about Santana Moss than anyone else. Shouldn't he be showing these guys what it takes to be a pro?

Posted by: Original_etrod | May 11, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Arnold reportedly left the State of Arizona so quickly that he forgot to tell a frightened group of Mexican illegals to come with him if they wanted to live.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 11, 2010 10:28 AM

That reminds me of Thursday's episode of Community... one of the funniest episodes of TV I have ever seen. Paying homage to all the classic action movies - Die Hard, Predator, Scarface... even Faceoff and Outsiders were thrown in. Great TV.

As far as McCardell, he actually did pretty well for us that one year. And Caldwell. They had some good 3rd down catches. 2008? Its all a blur now.

Posted by: Rypien11 | May 11, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

I think this trade would work:
Haynesworth to the Rams for OJ Otogwe, we het the ball hawking free safety we need and also get rid of the locker room problem!

Posted by: michaelr1171 | May 11, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

And of course, Terminator, obviously.

Posted by: Rypien11 | May 11, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 11, 2010 10:44 AM

I thought you liked the Maize and Blue. You cannot like both UM and OSU. It's against the law.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 11, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

The only 'bama I'd like to see in burgandy n gold is Mark Ingraham.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 11, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse


The only way that happens is if we trade up or finish 4-12 again.

I don't like either option. Not to mention next year we'll be in the market for a QB. Although he is going to be a difference maker. Kids a stud.

Posted by: Devo2 | May 11, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

I don't remember seeing Tebow listed as a 1st rounder anywhere, so, perhaps the broncos could've waited before pouncing on him.

No one drafts a 1st round quarterback with Tebow's possible star power (they'll be a ton of stories about his success or failure, think about it) and leaves him on the bench.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 11, 2010 10:11 AM

I don't think it was much of a reach. Peter King had projected him in the first round.

Nobody? Not even Green Bay? Aaron Rodgers was the 24th pick in the draft and sat for three years. Jason Campbell followed him and #25 and he sat for a year and a half. Tim Tebow was the 25th pick -- same as Jason Campbell.

Posted by: beep-beep


The difference is that Rodgers was playing behind arguably the greatest QB to ever do it, and Joe Gibbs had a serious god-friendly mancrush on Mark Brunell, and Gibbs' wasn't too high on playing rookie QBs anyway.


I'm almost willing to bet that Tebow will be the starter by week 8, especially if the Broncos get off to a bad start.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 11, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Rypien11 | May 11, 2010 10:50 AM

Saw the one where they "did" Goodfellas, with Abed running the chicken fingers distribution....good stuff.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | May 11, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

"...to me, bringing Galloway in as a mentor would say more about Santana Moss than anyone else. Shouldn't he be showing these guys what it takes to be a pro?"


In Kelly and Thomas, we're talking about two high drafted 3 year vets.

Why should anyone have to show them that which by now they should already know?

Perhaps it's just good thinking not to have an important segment of the roster dependant on guys who've yet to show they can be depended upon.

Look at how the jints' passing game suffered last year when Eli had to depend on Steve Smith and a bunch of young'ns you don't get what I mean.

The team needs a solid vet behind Moss is what's happening.

But, as we've been posting for a few days now, you must also suppress the feeling that Galloway might, like an able vulture, swoop in and take playing time away from Kelly and Thomas if they don't shine.

And everyday, that light gets dimmer.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 11, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Saw the one where they "did" Goodfellas, with Abed running the chicken fingers distribution....good stuff.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | May 11, 2010 10:57 AM |
Yup, that one was classic. When they played 'Layla' in that episode it was just epic. One of the best first seasons for a comedy show ever. Especially now that The Office has jumped the shark.

Posted by: Rypien11 | May 11, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

o_e and 4th, so you guys are okay with Galloway starting?

Get ready for that scenario if Kelly and Thomas can't get it together or if one of them possibly goes down.


o_e, if they have to bring in Galloway to push Kelly and Thomas then that does say alot about their work ethic and just overall drive to succeed.


I don't know about you all, but just the thought of me losing my job due to lack of production is more than enough to get me focused.

I guess work ethic is something that can't be instilled. You either have it or you don't.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 11, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 11, 2010 10:44 AM

I thought you liked the Maize and Blue. You cannot like both UM and OSU. It's against the law.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 11, 2010 10:53 AM


I never liked OSU. Just saying this old grizzly vet my be helpful to our current team.

I've hated Gallaway allll the way up to this signing...no bull... :) It especially helped that he played for the cowboys.

Trust me...I had to root against Shawn Springs, who went to my high school (missed him by a year) that whole time. Though I never rooted against him in the Pros.

But this is business.

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 11, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

**strong work ethic

Posted by: RedDMV | May 11, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Saw the one where they "did" Goodfellas, with Abed running the chicken fingers distribution....good stuff.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | May 11, 2010 10:57 AM |
Yup, that one was classic. When they played 'Layla' in that episode it was just epic. One of the best first seasons for a comedy show ever. Especially now that The Office has jumped the shark.

Posted by: Rypien11 | May 11, 2010 11:05 AM


I love "Community"...one of the best comedies on TV. Disagree on The Office though...that's still good TV, even though the attempt to recreate the Jim and Pam tension with Andy and Erin isn't quite working for me.

Don't sleep on Parks and Recreation either...big fan of Ron Swanson!

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 11, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

I guess work ethic is something that can't be instilled. You either have it or you don't.

I offer you Jamarcus Russell as proof of this.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 11, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Honestly I don't even think Galloway will be on the roster at the start of the season.

Didn't we bring in Keenan McCardell to show our young receivers "How to be a pro"?

Moss is still a burner and will function like Eddie Royal did in Denver.

I don't know what to think about AH92, but Daniels and Fletcher calling him out is not good. At first I thought it was more media hype than anything, but there is something to this.

If we could trade him somewhere for a young starting RT or LT go for it.

Clinton Portis WILL rush for 1,400 yards this year. Last year he pulled a Moss(Randy). He simply didn't want to play for a coach that couldn't produce. With Shanahan he knows what he is capable of.

Orakpo and DeMarcus Ware will be competing for the league lead in sacks.

Fletcher is still a beast, he simply does not age.

NFC East
1. Redskins- 11-5
2. Eagles- 10-6
3. Cowboys- 8-8
4. Giants- 6-10

Posted by: iH8dallas | May 11, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

I'm almost willing to bet that Tebow will be the starter by week 8, especially if the Broncos get off to a bad start.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 11, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse


That would be a horrible outcome for all parties involved.

Posted by: Original_etrod | May 11, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Yup, that one was classic. When they played 'Layla' in that episode it was just epic. One of the best first seasons for a comedy show ever. Especially now that The Office has jumped the shark.
Posted by: Rypien11 | May 11, 2010 11:05 AM

I was surprised at how good Community is. Never got into Parks & Rec, but it is supposedly good now. Why do you say the office jumped the shark? IMO, it’s as good as ever……30 Rock still rules.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | May 11, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

...and to me, bringing Galloway in as a mentor would say more about Santana Moss than anyone else. Shouldn't he be showing these guys what it takes to be a pro?

Posted by: Original_etrod | May 11, 2010 10:48 AM

Santana don't wanna be a mentor...other than by example...he's just concentrated on him...he has said so hisself...quiet leader or something to that nature....

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 11, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

The only 'bama I'd like to see in burgandy n gold is Mark Ingraham.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 11, 2010 9:15 AM | Report abuse


The only way that happens is if we trade up or finish 4-12 again.

I don't like either option. Not to mention next year we'll be in the market for a QB. Although he is going to be a difference maker. Kids a stud.

Posted by: Devo2 | May 11, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

There will be some real quality depth at the RB spot coming out next year. No guarantee that Ingram will be the first taken. Demarco Murray okla, Evan Royster psu are some larger backs. J Rodgers osu, Noel Devine wvu, are some smaller speed backs. I think they are all seniors. Ingram is a good back but there will be plenty for the taking next year. Further down the road keep and eye on Ryan William vt, and Dion Lewis pitt.

Posted by: Stu27 | May 11, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 11, 2010 11:11 AM

Posted by: dlhaze1 | May 11, 2010 11:12 AM |

Maybe 'jumped the shark' was too extreme, but I don't think its as consistently good as it used to be. Last week with Michael and the chick was good, but there were a couple episodes before that which dragged.

Andy and Erin are boring...Jim and Pam aren't as interesting anymore, and I think next year is Michael's last. Might be the last year for the show too.

I don't frequently watch P&R and 30 Rock but if I'm tuned in ill usually get a chuckle...

Posted by: Rypien11 | May 11, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Fringe is the best show on network TV

Posted by: iH8dallas | May 11, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

There's a baby, right? Anytime there's a baby introduced into a sitcom, the shark has been well and truly jumped. Book it.

Posted by: SMACK1 | May 11, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

I still Maintain Jack Bauer will be killed on the show's last episode. By Freddie Prince Jr.....Or Chloe....

4-12:

The way to circumvent the movie is to show one of missions from a past time vs. showing it in presence tense.

Book it!

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 11, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

NFC East
1. Redskins- 11-5
2. Eagles- 10-6
3. Cowboys- 8-8
4. Giants- 6-10

Posted by: iH8dallas | May 11, 2010 11:11 AM


Making regular season predictions before training camp = power rankings

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 11, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

"Fringe is the best show on network TV"

I like:

NFL Access

Quick Pitch

NFL Replay

NBC Late Sunday Golf

ESPN Sunday Night Baseball

TNT NBA broadcasts

TURNER CLASSIC MOVIES

Bill Maher

...oh, and, NFL Sunday Ticket.

After that, I really don't know what's on tv.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 11, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

There's a baby, right? Anytime there's a baby introduced into a sitcom, the shark has been well and truly jumped. Book it.
Posted by: SMACK1 | May 11, 2010 11:21 AM

They haven’t really made it a “character” though….and it’s not like it’s a talking baby……
Talking baby = Horrible sitcom/movie, but pretty funny etrade commercials

Posted by: dlhaze1 | May 11, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Andy: Of course. Yeah, that's terrible. Okay, let me get back to you. Hey, Stanley. One of my clients just called and said that their Sabre printer started smoking and caught on fire.
Stanley: My doctor told me to cut out hot dogs. We all got problems.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 11, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 11, 2010 11:24 AM

You sure you’re still married? If I watched all that stuff I wouldn’t notice if my wife had been living with someone else until after the superbowl.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | May 11, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

NFL Access

Quick Pitch

NFL Replay

NBC Late Sunday Golf

ESPN Sunday Night Baseball

TNT NBA broadcasts

TURNER CLASSIC MOVIES

Bill Maher

...oh, and, NFL Sunday Ticket.

After that, I really don't know what's on tv.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 11, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse
Most of those are on cable/premium not network Television.

I don't have cable so I keep up with all my sports on the internet.

Posted by: iH8dallas | May 11, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Come with me if you don't want paint on your clothes.

Posted by: Rypien11 | May 11, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

brownie, agreed on Ron Swanson. Terrific character, terrific character actor.

I also hope the Redskins win the NFC East this season, but I sure as hell am not predicting that it will happen.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | May 11, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Oh, I forgot:

The Tudors

Hung

Nurse Jackie

Treme

I like shows with cussin, no comercials, and fake tv sex in them.

That's another reason why I don't know what's on tv.

Cable, like cash, rules everything around me.

Dolla, dolla, bill, y'all.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 11, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Making regular season predictions before training camp = power rankings

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 11, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

I'll change the order of 2,3 and 4 weekly; depending on how I feel.

Signing Alex Barron moved Dallas from 2 to 3.

Posted by: iH8dallas | May 11, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Donna: Hey, if I said that we should go away for a couple of days, you would...
Michael: ...poop my pants.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 11, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

brownie, agreed on Ron Swanson. Terrific character, terrific character actor.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | May 11, 2010 11:30 AM


The episode with his ex-wife is friggin' classic...I was ROFLMAO when Leslie came back from her meeting with her and he said, "So what was it like staring into the eye of Satan's butthole?"

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 11, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

The Dallas Cowboys will win the NFC East this year.

Deal with it.

Acceptance is the first step on the path to a reality you'd rather not embrace or experience.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 11, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

o_e, if the Broncos start off bad then why not play Tebow.

Not saying that you do, but I can't understand why it's considered damning if a rookie QB plays. As long as he has a capable o-line in front of him, a running game and receivers, I'm all for it.

The Broncos have two of the three.

Let him make his mistakes and hopefully he'll learn from them. And judging by Tebow's willingness to learn and succeed, he will.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 11, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

I'm looking forward to the new season of Eastbound and Down if it ever comes on.

Posted by: Original_etrod | May 11, 2010 11:40 AM | Report abuse

The Dallas Cowboys will win the NFC East this year.

Deal with it.

Acceptance is the first step on the path to a reality you'd rather not embrace or experience.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 11, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

8-8

Posted by: iH8dallas | May 11, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

I think this trade would work:
Haynesworth to the Rams for OJ Otogwe, we het the ball hawking free safety we need and also get rid of the locker room problem!

Posted by: michaelr1171 | May 11, 2010 10:50 AM

we keep kicking around Atogwe's name. some of the rumbling from St. Louis makes it sound like he could end up as an unrestricted free agent on June 1.

but I'm thinking the scenario you've described might work... St. Louis mainly employs a 4-3 defense, and they would get value for Atogwe if they can work out a trade.

however, Atogwe's performance seemed to drop off last year, he had shoulder surgery in the offseason, and there was some business about an undisclosed sports hernia.

so it would take much more than a straight-up trade to make this happen.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 11, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Hate to say it, but Dallas is probably the best team in the division. They're consistently overrated and probably won't go deep in the playoffs, but unless someone else unexpectedly sneaks up and wins 11 or 12 games this year, they should win the division.

Unless Romo blows an ACL in preseason...

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 11, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

regarding NFC east predictions... nothing to say, except the division looks way more open than it has in recent years.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | May 11, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

"...if the Broncos start off bad then why not play Tebow."


McDaniels intends to use Tebow in the same manner Meyer did.

In Tebow's freshman year, he had a simple set of 'wildcat' type plays to run, then left the field so Chris Leak could run things.

McDaniels, accordingly, will let Tebow 'wildcat' early on, and build from there.

It's a gambling move as without Marshall, you have Orton trying to get into a groove with a changed receiving group, then suffer interruption because of Tebow's novelty act.

You hope Orton succeeds, but if he doesn't, then, by the bye, you might have justification for two things:

Starting Tebow or firing McDaniels.

I say J McDaniels gets fired.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 11, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

"No one drafts a 1st round quarterback with Tebow's possible star power (they'll be a ton of stories about his success or failure, think about it) and leaves him on the bench. Posted by: MistaMoe"
"Nobody? Not even Green Bay? Aaron Rodgers was the 24th pick in the draft and sat for three years. Jason Campbell followed him and #25 and he sat for a year and a half. Tim Tebow was the 25th pick -- same as Jason Campbell.Posted by: beep-beep"

I think the point was that Tebow has star power that Rodgers and Campbell never did.

I mean, his jersey's already the league's top seller.

And the Denver fans are already agitating to get rid of Orton (70% unfavorable in the local polls).

It'll be hard for McDaniel to leave Tebow on the bench, even if he belongs there.

Posted by: Samson151 | May 11, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

I still Maintain Jack Bauer will be killed on the show's last episode. By Freddie Prince Jr.....Or Chloe....

4-12:

The way to circumvent the movie is to show one of missions from a past time vs. showing it in presence tense.

Book it!

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 11, 2010 11:24 AM

Past time vs. Present time vs. Sideways time = 'LOST' [Best show ever. Ever ever.]

Posted by: 4-12 | May 11, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Parks & Rec is off the hook, I love that show. Also if you arent watching Party Down on startz (can be streamed for free on Netflix and Starz website) than you are missing out!

The best Big Govt v Small Govt debate isnt happening on Cable News, Congress, Tea Bagger conventions or even RI....its Leslie Nope vs Ron Swanson! AND they can still share a grand slam breakfact together in a friendly manor...there is a lesson there somewhere America!

Posted by: chrislarry | May 11, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

I watch whatever is on that I can tolerate at the time.

That'll include everything from cable TV shows to political talk shows.


Oh and for those who are watching, when it first started I wasn't really vouching for "The Pacific" at all.

Now?

1a. Band of Brothers
1b. The Pacific


Best character is CPL. "Snafu" Shelton. Homeboy is the epitome of a Marine... just crazy as hell and a bit of an a-hole... couldn't believe the main character (parts 5/6-10) is the same dude that acted as "Tim" in the movie 'Jurassic Park'.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 11, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse


Your Mission Joey. if u choose to accept it is this: Make the team learn the plays, stay in shape, teach teh children MK & DT, play some slot, then be ready to step in for Moss when he pulls his Hammie.

Posted by: TheCork | May 11, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Filed to ESPN: Brian Westbrook has a scheduled visit to Redskins on Wednesday. Interesting with Portis, L. Johnson, Willie Parker...
mortreport

Posted by: will_ga | May 11, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

It's just blind faith and loyalty to think that Dallas is NOT the best team in the NFC East.

Truth is truth, facts are facts.

Still doesn't mean that them 'SKINS can't get 'em twice, maybe three times next season though!!

Posted by: RedDMV | May 11, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Westbrook. Bye CP,Jerome whoever you are.

Posted by: dmlopez1 | May 11, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

"Filed to ESPN: Brian Westbrook has a scheduled visit to Redskins on Wednesday. Interesting with Portis, L. Johnson, Willie Parker..."

Yeah, just read this.

Westbrook can do punts as well FYI.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | May 11, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Brian Westbrook and D. McNabb in burgundy and gold would just be too weird.

Posted by: will_ga | May 11, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

"It's just blind faith and loyalty to think that Dallas is NOT the best team in the NFC East."

If I recall, the Giants won the Last SB from this division.

Dallas has shown me nothing and it has nothing to do with "faith."

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | May 11, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Filed to ESPN: Brian Westbrook has a scheduled visit to Redskins on Wednesday. Interesting with Portis, L. Johnson, Willie Parker...
mortreport

Posted by: will_ga


I'd rather see Brian Westbrook on the team than Willie Parker. I just think that Parker has nothing left. Dudes game was predicated on speed and it seems to be gone.

And With Westbrook they'll have a true 3rd down back.

And he's played with McNabb.

"The Washington EagleSkins"

Posted by: RedDMV | May 11, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Brian Westbrook and D. McNabb in burgundy and gold would just be too weird.

Posted by: will_ga | May 11, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

The OVER-THE-HILL GANG would be truly resurrected.

Posted by: glawrence007 | May 11, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Wow...we're getting way too many former Eagles here. But I guess it's payback for all the former Redskins they signed early in the 2000s (Brian Mitchell, James Thrash, Shawn Barber, etc.).

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 11, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Aside from his concussions, are there any other health issues with Westbrook? I would assume he can still contribute for some team. Wouldn’t necessarily want him here unless they let him return punts. More competition can’t hurt though……just don’t give him big money.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | May 11, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

we should sign westbrook. automatic special teams ace.

Posted by: BMACattack | May 11, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

It usually takes me a while to catch on to tv shows, but...

the latest episode of Community had me laughing harder than any tv show I can remember since Arrested Development. Maybe even more so. Kim Jeong entering the room like an Asian Tony Montana...priceless.

Posted by: psps23 | May 11, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

I watch Bill MAher too....He's on most nights...but then he shows his true 'RI' self when he demoans anyone who believes in GOD.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 11, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

They got Fred Ex coming in on Friaday. James Thrash will be so confused when he comes back from his Chinese vacation. All his former teams have mixmatched.

Posted by: Stu27 | May 11, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Dallas really isn't that great. I swear do some of you bloggers work for ESPN?

And it is my life long ultra-bias combined with my super secret f*cking football formula that dictates these predictions.

Just so happens when I plug in the data to my super secret f*cking football formula the Skins are on top. Perhaps it's coincidental.

Posted by: iH8dallas | May 11, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

If I recall, the Giants won the Last SB from this division.

Dallas has shown me nothing and it has nothing to do with "faith."

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz


Well we're talking about this coming season, not three years ago.

If it's not Dallas, then who?


Maintaining continuity goes along way in determining who's the best, especially if their is no real proof such as wins and losses to back it up.

The only team to maintain their continuity IS Dallas.

Sorry, but facts are facts, Ray. I don't like it anymore than you do.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 11, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Imagine the running backs meeting this year if they signed Westbrook…..the first 10 minutes of each meeting would be like:
“you guys hear that buzzing sound? No? Me and Brian hear it….somebody turn whatever’s making that noise off…..and FOCUS! Projector’s out of focus again, just like yesterday! Wait, what day is it?”

Posted by: dlhaze1 | May 11, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Seriously? Mortensen is reporting that the Skins are trying out Westbroke and this is the best you can do J Reid??? Give us more Haynesworth at least...

Posted by: SkinsFan301 | May 11, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Dallas doesn't have a legit Left Tackle...Just in case any of you haven't noticed....

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 11, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Dallas doesn't have a legit Left Tackle...Just in case any of you haven't noticed....

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 11, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Thank You 4th!

Posted by: iH8dallas | May 11, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

One of my faves too...I don't remember what the number was, but there was some stat illustrating that damn near all his catches were for first downs. One of the most underrated WRs in NFL history, IMO.

Posted by: brownwood26

When Ellard retired, he was 3rd in receiving yards -- in NFL history (behind Lofton and Rice). He ought to be in the HOF, but its insane that he isn't even getting serious consideration.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 11, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Didn't Westbrook get an offer from a team recently? Rams or Cardinals or some such...

Is Shawn Andrews still available? Freddie Mitchell out on bail? He probably needs work. Maybe he can try out too if he's allowed to leave the state that is.

Posted by: will_ga | May 11, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Not that this is a huge trend, but nobody has repeated as NFC East champs since the Eagles did it in 01-04 seasons, and it goes back to 1996:
1996 - Cowboys
1997 - Giants
1998 - Cowboys
1999 - Redskins
2000-Giants
2001-2004 – Eagles
2005 – Giants
2006 – Eagles
2007 – Cowboys
2008 –Giants
2009 – Cowboys

Odds are the Cowboys won’t win the division, but that’s only according to this.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | May 11, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Dallas doesn't have a legit Left Tackle...Just in case any of you haven't noticed....

Posted by: 4thFloor


Um, neither do the 'Skins... just in case any of you haven't noticed...

Look, I downright hate the Cowboys just as all of you. But I'm not going to go predicting "undefeated seasons" for the Redskins just because it's my favorite team in all of sports.

Like I said, success and continuity are synonymous with each other. As Redskins fans we should know this better than anyone. This is like the fifth rebuilding summer in the last 10 years.


The question still stands: Who's maintained continuity more in the division, the Eagles, the Giants, the Cowboys, or the Redskins?

Posted by: RedDMV | May 11, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dlhaze1 | May 11, 2010 12:27 PM

Before anyone jumps on me I know that that doesn't mean anything....just putting it out there cause I was curious and looked it up....

Posted by: dlhaze1 | May 11, 2010 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Freddie Mitchell is in jail?

What did he get arrested for? His wardrobe?

Posted by: RedDMV | May 11, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

impersonating a professional athlete...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 11, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Dallas has no contiunity...save for most of their defense....They think Choice can be a #1 RB. They think Dez Bryant will be an impact player. Roy Williams. Miles Austin is mad. And they now have to pick between a potential bust in Free and BArron to by Romo's LT.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 11, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

The Mail I receive at Work:

Dear mistamoe,

I've started working part time at a day-care center. I've noticed a lot of things wrong with this place.

The staff members go way too far in my opinion when they "discipline" the kids.

They curse at them. They slap them. They spray water at them from a water bottle.

Snack time consists of sugary drinks and things like Twinkies, cookies, and other foods that are all-sugar and no-nutrients.

The children hardly ever have a crayon in their hands. I really want to do something to help these kids, but I don't know what.

signed,

Barney Dino. Saur.


This is an easy one as I know that particular die hard redskins' fan day care center.

The place isn't called "The Riggo Drill" for nothig.

Tell the kids not to wear cowboys, giants, eagles, or raiders sports paraphenalia and no one will hit them.

Unless, of course, they actually like it.

Posted by: MistaMoe | May 11, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Look, I downright hate the Cowboys just as all of you. But I'm not going to go predicting "undefeated seasons" for the Redskins just because it's my favorite team in all of sports.

Like I said, success and continuity are synonymous with each other. As Redskins fans we should know this better than anyone. This is like the fifth rebuilding summer in the last 10 years.


The question still stands: Who's maintained continuity more in the division, the Eagles, the Giants, the Cowboys, or the Redskins?

Posted by: RedDMV | May 11, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

It's simple numbers Red.
This will be the 11th year between division titles for the skins.

Donovan has been in the league 11 years.

Devin Thomas wears 11

There are 11 players on offense

There are 11 players on defense

1+1= 2....the number of times we will beat the Cowboys.

it's all in the numbers for the Skins to win the East this year.

Posted by: iH8dallas | May 11, 2010 12:36 PM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 11, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

The only thing that I remember was when he thanked God for having "the best hands in the universe"...

Posted by: RedDMV | May 11, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

If Danny and Vinny had made the moves that the new Redskins "braintrust" is making, the fans would be howling in protest. But, because it's Shanny and Allen making these moves, everything's supposed to be cool? I don't think so.

Galloway, for example, brings nothing to the table in my opinion. If he had anything left, N.E. and Pittsburgh would have kept him around. N.E. had seen enough of him after a few games and didn't even want him to finish out the season. So what makes anyone think that Galloway will suddenly turn productive here? And Galloway's never been a great "locker room" guy. What will he teach the young Redskins wideouts? Watch what I do and do the opposite? Galloway is done and he's a waste of a roster spot.

Westbrook is also done. Not to the extent that Galloway is, but why would anyone think that Westbrook would be able to stay healthy this year? He hasn't in the past.

I always thought Shanahan was over rated. His head coaching records before and after Elway were pretty ordinary. I predict a very disappointing season for Shanahan, who, by the way, missed the playoffs his last three seasons in Denver. I really think Shanahan is done too. That will become evident this season.

Posted by: sonny2 | May 11, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

I think this trade would work:
Haynesworth to the Rams for OJ Otogwe, we het the ball hawking free safety we need and also get rid of the locker room problem!

Posted by: michaelr1171

Michael and all the rest of the regular here on RI. I've been around for a long time. Back, before they changed to the blog concept. Back when you could decide what topics us, the fans wanted to discuss. I read this blog daily, but, I've only posted once. But, Michael I was curious where you heard that Haynesworth was a locker room problem. Did you read a quote from a teammate? Coach? FO personnel? Just curious in the DMV.

Posted by: dbailey211 | May 11, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Right...because that's exactly what we did with Chris Samuels 10 years ago.

Oh wait...no we didn't.

Not saying starting a top OT prospect is the rule, but the Redskins have no business taking Williams that high if they don't think he can start, period. Unless you're taking a QB, whomever you take #4 should be starting Day 1 or chances are you f-ed the pick up.

And I think you overlook the fact that the O-line was horrendous at OT and whatever rookie they got was gonna end up starting whether he's ready or not. The depth chart looks just that bad at that spot.

So if you wanna be Debbie Downer about it, knock yourself out. But with a legit NFL head coach and Pro-Bowl QB at the helm, I give it little to no chance this O-line will be as bad as it was last year.

And stop with the WR stuff...Galloway isn't here to start, he's here for depth. That's not necessarily an indictment against the 2nd rounders as it is the guys behind them on the depth chart.

Posted by: brownwood26 | May 11, 2010 8:54 AM

Trent Williams played RT up until his senior season. That is one season at LT. Starting and starting at LT are two very different things. LT is the 2nd most important spot on offense.
I agree that the Oline will not be as bad as last year. That line was referred to by some analyst as the worst Oline in modern times. They were horrid. Other than Dockery and Rabach the rest of the line was atrocious.

By the way McNabb has not made a Pro Bowl appearance in 5 years. He had a great year in 2004. His last pro bowl. Since 2004 he has had injury problems and be slightly a slightly above average QB. And that was with a stable, perennial playoff team.

The team should have gotten a stop gap LT. Made a trade for a guy like Barron.

Bottom line is that the Redskins are trying to win now despite the fact they are in desperate need of a rebuild. Before you say how good the defense was last year: 10th in yards, 18th in pts/g and dead last in takeaways with 17.

The team should be rebuilding instead of throwing a good QB on the downside of his career behind a shoddy Oline and hope to make the playoffs.

Posted by: srobert1117 | May 11, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Filed to ESPN: Brian Westbrook has a scheduled visit to Redskins on Wednesday. Interesting with Portis, L. Johnson, Willie Parker...
mortreport
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So we will now have to rename the backfield to "The Concussion Codgers".

Posted by: NosferatusCoffin | May 11, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

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