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McCardell takes on task of developing Devin Thomas, Malcolm Kelly


The Redskins will enter next week's minicamp with more than a dozen wide receivers ready to go. It'll surely be a packed position meeting room, and the guy at the center of it -- new wide receivers coach Keenan McCardell -- will be trying to make sure as many of those receivers as possible are capable of competing for a roster spot.

After beginning his playing career with the Redskins as a 12th-round draft pick in 1991 and ending it with Washington in 2007, McCardell says he's excited to be back with the franchise to begin his coaching career.

Even with newly-signed veterans Joey Galloway and Bobby Wade on the roster, McCardell's biggest task could be developing young receivers who have yet to meet expectations -- most notably 2008 second-round picks Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly.

After the team's first minicamp, however, McCardell said he is getting to know the two third-year receivers and understand where they might fit best in the Redskins' new offense under Coach Mike Shanahan and offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan.

"That's what these camps are for, we're trying to figure out a little bit more about them," McCardell said. "In the offseason program we've kind of run some routes, I want to see how they feel on certain routes. Now we're still a work in progress for that. I think these
guys are starting to understand the system a little bit and understand that it takes a lot to play in this system. It's a little different a system that they were in and we demand a lot from the receivers on the blocking part and the route running so it's a little more work and they're actually adjusting to it fine."

Several times when talking about Kelly, Thomas and second-year wide receiver Marko Mitchell, McCardell emphasized the idea of working harder and maximizing potential through practice. McCardell said he wasn't too familiar with Thomas and Kelly when he first joined the coaching staff, but he has already started to use his own experiences
to speed the development of the two receivers. McCardell played 17 seasons in the NFL with Washington, Cleveland, Jacksonville, Tampa Bay and San Diego, and retired with 883 receptions - 13th most in NFL history -- 11,373 yards and 63 touchdowns.

"I think both of those guys have high expectations to be very successful receivers in the National Football League and I just want to show them how to get there," McCardell said. "I've been there and played at a high level for a long time and I was pretty successful and I want them to be successful. And I'm going to push them and push them
and push them, I'm going to push them to the edge and that's the way those guys wanted it. We talked about it, and they want it so I'm going to do that because I can tell they both are hungry and want to win. And you know what, they want to be good football players. Not just receivers, they want to be good football players, be good pros."

In addition to working with the young pass catchers - McCardell also said he sees "a lot of potential" in Mitchell - the corps will continue to lean heavily on veteran Santana Moss. A teammate of Moss's in 2007, McCardell said he has seen Moss take a more vocal role this season and that he will depend on Moss to lead by example, as well.

The Redskins are "adding more to his role, giving him more on his plate," McCardell said. "He's that guy, he's that veteran, he's the guy that I lean on to do things right to show these guys. Giving him more has made him so much more attentive to everything, even to the young guys. I know how he is, he's kind of a soft-spoken leader, he doesn't say much, [but] I've seen him change a little bit. I even told him, I said, 'Man, you're talking a little bit more.' Which is good, I like it because he's bought in and he is understanding it. He's chomping at the bit right now but he's like my pencil, I got to keep
that lead sharp, I gotta always keep my pencil sharp and he's my pencil."

By Paul Tenorio  |  April 30, 2010; 6:20 AM ET
Categories:  wide receivers  
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Comments

Good Friday morning to all, I think McCardell is a major upgrade to the former WR's coach, and will do a great job with these young guys.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 30, 2010 6:38 AM | Report abuse

I'm taking a nap wake me up when you get here.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 30, 2010 6:47 AM | Report abuse

To be coached by someone who has had success at the particular position in question should make the players listen and respond to his advise. One would think. Happy Friday to RI nation!

Posted by: FedorEm | April 30, 2010 6:53 AM | Report abuse

who is older mccardell or galloway? go skins

Posted by: davetoobs146 | April 30, 2010 6:57 AM | Report abuse

Competition is a good thing.

Mr. Reid you don't have to worry about competition, it's been almost 16 hours since the last post.

Posted by: 2ndtierfan | April 30, 2010 6:01 AM

And this is why you'll never be a 1sttierfan. You can't compete. You can't keep up. Soon you're gonna be a 3rdtierfan.

16 hours? Reid is on vacation and hasn't posted for a couple of days. At least try to pay attention!

Posted by: beep-beep | April 30, 2010 7:04 AM | Report abuse

"He's my pencil"?

Posted by: truke | April 30, 2010 7:45 AM | Report abuse

I gotta believe Kelly and Thomas will take big strides this year. I mean, look at the coaching that they had to live by for the first 2 years. Look at the examples they has to go on...pathetic.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 30, 2010 7:48 AM | Report abuse

WR battles will be one of the best storylines of the Summer. We have tons of solid young, old, and everything in between. Looking forward to NOT having Randel El handed a starting job because of his salary.

Posted by: Section104 | April 30, 2010 7:55 AM | Report abuse

WR battles will be one of the best storylines of the Summer. We have tons of solid young, old, and everything in between. Looking forward to NOT having Randel El handed a starting job because of his salary.

Posted by: Section104 | April 30, 2010 7:55 AM |

A-fricken-men!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 30, 2010 8:02 AM | Report abuse

flound, agreed, KM will get these guys to work hard, and combined with an actual coach who knows what he's doing...no where to go but up....

cue up corky claiming these guys wont know the new offense in 3....2...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 30, 2010 8:05 AM | Report abuse

cue up corky claiming these guys wont know the new offense in 3....2...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 30, 2010 8:05 AM

Nah, it'll be at least noon before he can get his arthritic fingers to hit the proper keys on the board.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 30, 2010 8:12 AM | Report abuse

Our prayers go out to the receiving corps in Buffalo. With Stan Hixon as position coach, divine intervention may be their only hope.

Posted by: Carl739 | April 30, 2010 8:12 AM | Report abuse

That's an awfully sweet story over on the sportsbog about Brooks Laich changing that lady's flat tire after Game 7.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2010/04/brooks_laich_changes_a_tire_af.html


And it reminds me . . . .


Amazingly, we had something similar happen to us last year leaving a Skins game at Fed Ex Field. We got a flat on the Beltway and pulled over. A Mini Cooper pulled off the road in front of us, and darned if it wasn't Jim Zorn. He was as nice as could be, and started working the jack. Told us he knew just what to do.

Nicest, most humble man you ever saw. After 15 minutes he was done. We thanked him and drove home.

Unfortunately, it turned out he had put the tire on backwards, stripped the nuts, and ruined the axle. The car's not actually driveable any more.

But he meant well and was really friendly. Good guy.

True story.

Posted by: farstriker | April 30, 2010 8:12 AM | Report abuse

Yep. Moss is like an old pencil that needs to be sharpened.

Actually he's more like one of those old fat pencils we used to use in first grade.
Time to upgrade to a brand new sleek #2.

Moss should be in the slot or cut.

Posted by: original_mark | April 30, 2010 8:13 AM | Report abuse

mistamayor

"...McCardell's biggest task could be developing young receivers who have yet to meet expectations (Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly)...McCardell also said he sees "a lot of potential" in Mitchell..."

Unlike most, I 'have a feeling' that Marko is the keeper, and Kelly the disappointment.

Thomas has shown he can make plays.

Too, mistamayor, how 'bout threadin' us with a little comparison of our guys against the other receiver--drafted and undrafted--in'08?

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 30, 2010 8:18 AM | Report abuse

Unfortunately, it turned out he had put the tire on backwards, stripped the nuts, and ruined the axle. The car's not actually driveable any more.

His playcalling was backwards, he got his nuts stripped by Dan, he ruined Jason Campbell. As for the team, we'll see if it's driveable soon enough.

Posted by: original_mark | April 30, 2010 8:20 AM | Report abuse

farstriker

That's a funny story.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 30, 2010 8:24 AM | Report abuse

moe, I think Kelly can play, I think he can, when utilized correctly be a player in this offense. Don't send him on fly patterns, like the former guy did, but use his height/reach as an asset, have him posting up 5'10 corners...

mark, he deserved to have his nuts stripped by dan...Zorn was just this side of spurrier, and considering that spurrier for all intensive purposes QUIT, thats pretty bad...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 30, 2010 8:30 AM | Report abuse

Unfortunately, it turned out he had put the tire on backwards, stripped the nuts, and ruined the axle. The car's not actually driveable any more.

Posted by: farstriker | April 30, 2010 8:12 AM

His playcalling was backwards, he got his nuts stripped by Dan, he ruined Jason Campbell. As for the team, we'll see if it's driveable soon enough.

Posted by: original_mark | April 30, 2010 8:20 AM

so far Shanahan has rebuilt the engine, is reworking the bumpers, and picked up a bunch of old spare tires.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 30, 2010 8:33 AM | Report abuse

moodlymoodlymoo

How's life on the farm?

I hear the men are horny.

And the sheep are nervous.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 30, 2010 8:40 AM | Report abuse

so far Shanahan has rebuilt the engine, is reworking the bumpers, and picked up a bunch of old spare tires.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 30, 2010 8:33 AM |

Considering there was no place to bye new tires since FA's sucked this year, and the former regime left us with only a few picks that we could use to get the untested experimental tires. I think we have a good mix of young and old, and they will keep adding young each year and get rid of the older.

I can't wait to see how this plays out on the field this year, it should be fun.

Posted by: Flounder21 | April 30, 2010 8:42 AM | Report abuse

Unfortunately, it turned out he had put the tire on backwards, stripped the nuts, and ruined the axle. The car's not actually driveable any more.

But he meant well and was really friendly. Good guy.

True story.


Posted by: farstriker | April 30, 2010 8:12 AM

That story has me LMAO, you may have forgot the police still gave you a high a$$
ticket for this.

Just like the Danny to still make you pay premium ticket prices for a half a$$ job of someone else.

Posted by: Hackersk | April 30, 2010 8:46 AM | Report abuse

I thought Zorn drove a white porsche cayenne...

Posted by: RedDMV | April 30, 2010 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 30, 2010 8:40 AM

the sky is blue, the grass is growing, birds are singing... and spring is in the air.

agreed with flounder. you don't rebuild a classic car all at once.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 30, 2010 8:49 AM | Report abuse

beantown

So who's taking second place to the Rays?

Tampa Bay 16 5

New York 13 7 2.5

Boston 11 11 5.5

Toronto 10 12 6.5

Baltimore 4 17 12


Tampa's weakness is their bullpen.

Beyond that, they've got to win some killer games against the Yanks and Sawx.

And all three teams play tough interleague games (Mets, Dodgers, Phillies, Marlins).

The bluejays shot themselves in the foot by moving Halliday to the NL.

Halliday is making the NL look like the joke league that it is.

And if the O's get any kind of pitching, the whole dynamic of the division changes, because they can hit.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 30, 2010 8:53 AM | Report abuse

moe, way, way to early to tell right now, yanks have the hitting, Rays seemingly have everything, and the Sox pitching is just now starting to come around....gonna make for a fun summah....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 30, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Unfortunately, it turned out he had put the tire on backwards, stripped the nuts, and ruined the axle. The car's not actually driveable any more.

Posted by: farstriker | April 30, 2010 8:12 AM

His playcalling was backwards, he got his nuts stripped by Dan, he ruined Jason Campbell. As for the team, we'll see if it's driveable soon enough.

Posted by: original_mark | April 30, 2010 8:20 AM

so far Shanahan has rebuilt the engine, is reworking the bumpers, and picked up a bunch of old spare tires.

Posted by: moodlymoodlymoo | April 30, 2010 8:33 AM | Report abuse

To use a golf analogy....

The FO picked up a bunch of used practice balls for the range to see how they play, knowing they have a few ProV1's in the bag for the course...

Speaking of golf... 12:15 tee time!

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 30, 2010 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Let's assume MS gets the O-Line Fixed (to an acceptable level, won't be great right away) Which RB steps up to be the man?
Portis?
Johnson?
Parker.....
Torian.....who?
PJ Hill ??
ALRIDGE..................!!

Posted by: boysheadcoach | April 30, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

This is an AMAZING stat:

According to the Seahawks' Web site, Jones permitted 23 sacks in 5,703 career passing plays.

Two of them came by Bruce Smith in a 2002 game against the Washington Redskins.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 30, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

"He's chomping at the bit right now but he's like my pencil, I got to keep
that lead sharp, I gotta always keep my pencil sharp and he's my pencil."


Should have followed that up with a "No homo."

Posted by: Original_etrod | April 30, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

I don't know what the depth chart will look like at WR, b/c they've said many times that K.Shanny's style is going to be moving around the WRs alot to get mismatches.

But if it really is a true-blue honest-to-God open competition at WR, my bet is that Marko Mitchell will be no lower than 3rd on the depth chart.


Posted by: p1funk | April 30, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

leaving in 5 to play with my new 64 degree Loft wedge...........

Posted by: boysheadcoach | April 30, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

moe, way, way to early to tell right now, yanks have the hitting, Rays seemingly have everything, and the Sox pitching is just now starting to come around....gonna make for a fun summah....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 30, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

They difference is the starting pitching..
If Garza or Price were to get injured, we would be OK.. not great but OK.. Now imagine if CC or Beckett were to go down...

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 30, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

sfit, on behalf of those of us stuck at work all day, may you slice everything off the tee, and may someone in your group snap your driver over their knee....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 30, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Fairways and greens and don't even think LAYUP..........

Posted by: boysheadcoach | April 30, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

sfit, if Beckett goes down, thats GOOD. have you seen him pitch this year?? He SUCKS!!!

Buchholz, however, is starting to show that he might be a stud....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 30, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

sfit, on behalf of those of us stuck at work all day, may you slice everything off the tee, and may someone in your group snap your driver over their knee....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 30, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Prob. both, but the Bloody Marys should comfort my pain.

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 30, 2010 9:19 AM | Report abuse

While I agree that assessment is premature and development stunted from Zorn, for MK12 DT11 I also think only one keeper from the two will emerge. I hope I am wrong, but I think Moe's take pivots closer to what will happen than the more optimistic views. But hey I hope Moe and I are way wrong.

Posted by: chrislarry | April 30, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Amazingly, we had something similar happen to us last year leaving a Skins game at Fed Ex Field. We got a flat on the Beltway and pulled over. A Mini Cooper pulled off the road in front of us, and darned if it wasn't Jim Zorn. He was as nice as could be, and started working the jack. Told us he knew just what to do.

Nicest, most humble man you ever saw. After 15 minutes he was done. We thanked him and drove home.

Unfortunately, it turned out he had put the tire on backwards, stripped the nuts, and ruined the axle. The car's not actually driveable any more.

But he meant well and was really friendly. Good guy.

True story.


Posted by: farstriker | April 30, 2010 8:12 AM | Report abuse

LOL! Great story. Ohhhhhhhhh Jim Zorn.

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | April 30, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

So who is going to be the Skins version of Andre Johnson/Brandon Marshall??

A.Johnson - 6'2'', 225lbs, 4.43 - 40yd/time

B.Marshall - 6'4'', 229lbs., 4.57-40yd/time

D.Thomas - 6'2'', 215lbs, 4.32 - 40yd/time

M.Kelly - 6'4'', 217lbs., 4.68 - 40yd/time

M.Mitchell - 6'4'',218lbs.,4.49 - 40yd/time


Posted by: p1funk | April 30, 2010 9:24 AM | Report abuse

WR battles will be one of the best storylines of the Summer. We have tons of solid young, old, and everything in between. Looking forward to NOT having Randel El handed a starting job because of his salary.

Posted by: Section104 | April 30, 2010 7:55 AM |

A-fricken-men!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 30, 2010 8:02 AM

double that fricken and raise you two more, scampy....

First time the Skins will have true position competition since Marty.

(sorry Gibbs 2.0 lovers..but, he too, was guilty of "Largest Contract, Starts")

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 30, 2010 9:24 AM | Report abuse

leaving in 5 to play with my new 64 degree Loft wedge...........

Posted by: boysheadcoach | April 30, 2010 9:10 AM | Report abuse

I have a hard enough time with the 60.. don't even think I could hit a 64 degree wedge, much less find a use for it.

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 30, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

sign me up for mega-frickens for WR (and other...) position battles in camp...MK/DT should be handed nothing, make'em eaaaaarn it as the silver spoons grandfather used say in those commercials...

Posted by: chrislarry | April 30, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Santana is a leader, huh? Then the receivers are in deep, deep trouble. His end-zone celebration in a losing effort against a terrible team 2 years ago may have cost the game. That degree of selfishness and stupidity is unforgivable.

Posted by: DannyH8r | April 30, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

sfit, if Beckett goes down, thats GOOD. have you seen him pitch this year?? He SUCKS!!!

Buchholz, however, is starting to show that he might be a stud....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 30, 2010 9:16 AM

Ref Beckett..Hopefully its just temporary early season kinks.. and not a motivational problem.. ie. "Large Contract Disappearing Act". Dont think so.. he is too much of a vet and competitor for that to come out this late in his career.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 30, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

And if the O's get any kind of pitching, the whole dynamic of the division changes, because they can hit.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 30, 2010 8:53 AM | Report abuse


???

The last time O's had pitching was circa 1997 w/ Mike Mussina and Scott Erickson ...

Posted by: p1funk | April 30, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

sfit, if Beckett goes down, thats GOOD. have you seen him pitch this year?? He SUCKS!!!

Buchholz, however, is starting to show that he might be a stud....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 30, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

I think the bigger question is what's up with "Big Papi"... Love Pedroia, but does he always have to yawn before he steps into the batters box.. not just 1 yawn but like 7.

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 30, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Let's be realistic, when the dust settles, the opening day wide receiver will still be
Moss, Thomas, Kelly, Mitchell, and two new faces.

Posted by: abxinc | April 30, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Moe, the O's problem (ok one prob...)is offense they have like 70 runs so far....Wiggie is scortching the ball though....not that I care about the O's, but Wiggie is ballin for the Carroll Street Sleepytime Warriors (aka my fantasy team...)

Posted by: chrislarry | April 30, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

I think the bigger question is what's up with "Big Papi"...

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 30, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse


Is that really a question??

He's a 'roid user who lied about his age...now both of those realities have caught up with him.

Does anyone out there really think otherwise??

Posted by: p1funk | April 30, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Let's be realistic, when the dust settles, the opening day wide receiver will still be
Moss, Thomas, Kelly, Mitchell, and two new faces.

Posted by: abxinc

I would prolly cosign this, but I think what happens in the dust cloud will go a long way to getting the best out of the starters and a changed culture on the team...so the dust cloud has a lot of value.

Posted by: chrislarry | April 30, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

The last time O's had pitching was circa 1997 w/ Mike Mussina and Scott Erickson ...

Posted by: p1funk | April 30, 2010 9:31 AM
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no.. not since 1927, Cuellar, Jim Palmer, Pat Dobson, and Dave McNally.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 30, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

p1, while I agree with that in principal, lets say he was taking HGH during that time...they don't test for HGH, so why wouldn't he still be taking it?? I think he's just lost his eye's, guys can pound him inside, give him a fistful of bee's, and he can't get to it...guys are ringing him up with average gas...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 30, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

He's a 'roid user who lied about his age...now both of those realities have caught up with him.

Posted by: p1funk | April 30, 2010 9:36 AM

damn...should've been a Yankee.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | April 30, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 30, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

However you want to cut the details, it seems there's a combination of age and the inability to juice up the way he was used to doing (now with all the scrutiny, and such).

I imagine that he sees the ball, but the muscle memory just isn't what it used to be. Even HGH can't help you when you're like 50 years old...

Posted by: p1funk | April 30, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

And this is why you'll never be a 1sttierfan. You can't compete. You can't keep up. Soon you're gonna be a 3rdtierfan.

16 hours? Reid is on vacation and hasn't posted for a couple of days. At least try to pay attention!

Posted by: beep-beep

hahahaha
You silly beep-beep you.
Yes I know he's on vacation.

Posted by: 2ndtierfan | April 30, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

skinsfanintampa

"The difference is the starting pitching..
If Garza or Price were to get injured, we would be OK.. not great but OK.. Now imagine if CC or Beckett were to go down..."


The Yanks are straight here too, as we got a guy named Aceves who's better than most team's number 3 pitcher (except A. Pettite).

So if a pitcher goes down, we got guys to fill-in.

Our weakness is Vazquez--and don't think he'll be a starting pitcher this summer if he can't get his sh!t right.

Vazquez is strictly a NL pitcher.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 30, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

From the Raiders Blog:

Raider O Says:
April 27th, 2010 at 9:52 pm

We were 5-11 last season with no OC, no QB (sorry Vegas), bad OL, and a below avg rushing attack. We added 2 OTs, a Vet QB (who has more TDs than INTs, and completed over 60% of his passes), a DE/DT, and an OC.

We did improve!!
BTW, Campbell has a career rating of 82.3
========================================

Glad to see some are excited about Campbell....

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 30, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: pabrian2003 | April 29, 2010 10:58 PM

I can only wonder what kind of contribution you make to our wonderful society..

Posted by: Diesel44 | April 29, 2010 11:04 PM

huh?

that's right you can only wonder.

holier tahn thou much?

and lastly, ooooooooooooooooooh whatta burn

Posted by: pabrian2003 | April 30, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

moe/sfit, they're bringing back Dice this saturday, so they'll go with a rotation of Becks, Lester, Lackey, Buchholz, and Dice....I'm hoping that they create the roster spot for Dice by outright releasing Ortiz....or trading him to SD for Gonzo...whichever...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 30, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Yankees will just somehow buy another pitcher if Vazquez sucks. He sucked there last time but they didn't learn. Good call on Nick Johnson too Moe. Saw your nonstop pimping of that guy. He is Mr. Glass and he stinks. F the Yankees.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | April 30, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

The Orioles have been in trouble ever since that crazy Greek dude bought the team..How can you beat the Yanks if you don't open the wallet for Yank-caliber pitching?? Yanks party whenever the O's are on their schedule..

Posted by: frak | April 30, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

From the Raiders Blog:

Raider O Says:
April 27th, 2010 at 9:52 pm

We were 5-11 last season with no OC, no QB (sorry Vegas), bad OL, and a below avg rushing attack. We added 2 OTs, a Vet QB (who has more TDs than INTs, and completed over 60% of his passes), a DE/DT, and an OC.

We did improve!!
BTW, Campbell has a career rating of 82.3
========================================

Glad to see some are excited about Campbell....

Posted by: 4thFloor

When you've been eating bread and water your whole life you might get a little excited when you get some squirrel once in a while.

Posted by: RedDMV | April 30, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

4th, I want JC to do well, and want the raiders to do well, so that their 1st round pick, which goes to the Pats, is in the high teens, or early 20's...pipe dream, I know....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 30, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Good call on Nick Johnson too Moe. Saw your nonstop pimping of that guy. He is Mr. Glass and he stinks. F the Yankees.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | April 30, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse


When Nick Johnson was with the Nats, he was always the hardest worker, with the most potential who can teach the young guys how to be the best pro who is always primed for a really great year...until that annual season-ending injury 25 games into the schedule...

Posted by: p1funk | April 30, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

BTW Moe/Bean..

Carl Crawford wins the AL MVP this year.

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 30, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

todd

"Yankees will just somehow buy another pitcher if Vazquez sucks."


They don't have to 'buy' another pitcher as they got two guys in the bullpen and in Scranton who'd start anywhere in the league.

BTW: all pro sports teams 'buy' players.

The trick is to spend wisely two times for every one time you don't.

And Johnson has more walks than runs--yes, that's a Little League stat--which is what sucks.

But once he, A Rod, and Tex get it going,....

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 30, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Motorcycles and t*tty bars, Ben's just got Hi-Testosterone-itis, like afflicts a lot of NFLers and soldiers at the front, its a survival trait..Yer Gawd-Dammed right there's a church-horse collar around Tebow's neck, that crazy sumb*tch would be like Lt. Calley turned loose in the village without it!! "IT'S THE TEBOW!!! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!! AAAAAAAAAAAA!!!"

Posted by: frak | April 30, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

sfit, could be, he's a hugely talented cat...coming into free agency this year isn't he??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 30, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

From the Raiders Blog:

Raider O Says:
April 27th, 2010 at 9:52 pm

We were 5-11 last season with no OC, no QB (sorry Vegas), bad OL, and a below avg rushing attack. We added 2 OTs, a Vet QB (who has more TDs than INTs, and completed over 60% of his passes), a DE/DT, and an OC.

We did improve!!
BTW, Campbell has a career rating of 82.3
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Glad to see some are excited about Campbell....

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 30, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse


Bless their hearts...they're excited about the QB rating...

Funny how the poster was complaining about them being 5-11

Don't they know that Campbell's team went 4-12??

Posted by: p1funk | April 30, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

skinsfan

"Carl Crawford wins the AL MVP this year."

Between Cano and Crawford: that's a heck of a choice.

The folks in Tampa need to pay Crawford to stay.

I like Zobrist and Pena, too, btw.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 30, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

sfit, could be, he's a hugely talented cat...coming into free agency this year isn't he??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 30, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Yes, and I'm pretty sure he will be a Yankee next year.

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 30, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Between Cano and Crawford: that's a heck of a choice.

The folks in Tampa need to pay Crawford to stay.

I like Zobrist and Pena, too, btw.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 30, 2010 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Don't forget Longo! Dude has the best new era cap commercial.

"Hi, Evan Longoria"

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 30, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Yes, and I'm pretty sure he will be on the Red Sox next year

Fixed it for ya......

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 30, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

So I am discussing on another blog the Rock Cartwright question.

I just finished some stat research and I did not realize how truly useless Rock was on the field. Off the field he was a leader sure. But on the field he did less then I realized.

Posted by: alex35332 | April 30, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Oh I bet you 90% of the people on this blog were. You, on the other hand, obviously weren't yet here you are making comments like you were and then basically admitted that you weren't. If you're not watching the games, don't act like you know what the hell is going on.
Posted by: scampbell1975 | April 29, 2010 9:02 PM |
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If you watched all the games of a 4-12 team.. I feel sorry for you..
I did watch the Neworleans game, 3hours I will never see again, and the sandiego 2nd half.. 1.5 hours.. but not the other 14 games.. So, 14 games x's 3 hours thats 42 hours I am ahead of you on this rock (and I spent most of that 42 hours with my wife an family). And there hasnt yet been a Redskin player coming by my office to sit in front of my desk and drink beer while watching me work for 3 hours?? (but if they pay me 4 mil a year.. I will let them..)
Life is passing you numbskulls by..
Spend time with your family and keep your money away from mastah snydah.
Posted by: cliftonbiz | April 29, 2010 9:19 PM

Heavens to Mergatroid (wow, just wow was recently outlawed up here, right?)!!!!! Sometimes on a slow morning I actually take the time to read all of the comments since I left work the prior day. Glad I did that this morning. I think we saw a first up here last night. Some turd (cliftonbiz), whose handle I actually recognize from posting up here somewhat regularly, tried to act like a knowitall about Haynesworth’s and JC17’s effectiveness, and then admitted to watching 1.5 games all year. And on top of that, got all sanctimonious because those of us who actually watch every game our wasting our lives away…..this just went to the top of my list as the most unbelievable thing I’ve seen up here. I don’t call peoples “fan-dom” into question up here because I’ve always felt that if you were up here wasting time to talk about the skins then you must be a pretty hardcore fan, whether I agree with the things you say or not. But wow, what an effin loser poser doosh bag bandwagon- jumpin sanctimonious non-fan prick this guy is. If you heard an explosion last night it was this guy’s credibility plummeting to earth like a frickin meteorite.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | April 30, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Should have followed that up with a "No homo."

Posted by: Original_etrod | April 30, 2010 9:10 AM

I tell you...etrod's pencil stays sharp....No Homo...lol...

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 30, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Bless their hearts...they're excited about the QB rating...

Funny how the poster was complaining about them being 5-11

Don't they know that Campbell's team went 4-12??

Posted by: p1funk | April 30, 2010 10:21 AM

Ha....but the are just reading what the media feeds them....BAd OLine....

Posted by: 4thFloor | April 30, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

D-Mac will QB 3 consecutive games against the Cowpies. When's the last time that happened?

Game 17 2009:
Pies: 24 - Iggles - 0

NFC Wildcard:
Pies: 34 - Iggles -14

Game 1 2010:
Skins - ?? - Pies - ?

Posted by: Alan4 | April 30, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

So I am discussing on another blog the Rock Cartwright question.

I just finished some stat research and I did not realize how truly useless Rock was on the field. Off the field he was a leader sure. But on the field he did less then I realized.

Posted by: alex35332 | April 30, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse


That's why when he went to test the free agent market, no one offered him anything.

So he came slinking back to the Skins who supposedly low-balled him by giving him a million bucks.

Then when he got released, he had the audacity to complain that the organization didn't take care of him.

I wasn't in the lockerroom, so I don't know what kind of guy he is, but, sadly, I'm forced to put him in the Carlos Rogers category - dude is really not in touch with the truth about his own ability/value in the NFL.


Posted by: p1funk | April 30, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

"I want JC to do well, and want the raiders to do well,..."


Campbell goes into a situation slightly better than the one he left last December.

Like us, the raiders have young, developing receivers.

Unlike us, Campbell will play behind a decent offensive line.

Cable ain't Zorn though neither is Shanahan.

The expectations for Campbell are low, so if he puts up, say, 3,600 yards with 20 touchdowns in a weak division, maybe the raiders vault into second place.

And if he doesn't, they'll say, "He was worth the fourth round pick in 2012."

"At least we didn't get hosed for this bum."

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 30, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: will_ga | April 30, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

when we make the playoffs and malcolm kelly gets hurt, can we sign McCardell to the active roster? lol he's still probably better than 10 out of those 12 recievers

Posted by: destewar | April 30, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

al, you needed stats to tell you that Rock was useless....seriously??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 30, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Don't forget Longo! Dude has the best new era cap commercial.

"Hi, Evan Longoria"

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 30, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTLQBOlgkTg

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 30, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Campbell goes into a situation slightly better than the one he left last December.


Posted by: MistaMoe | April 30, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse


It's gonna be Redskins 2.0 for Campbell.

But you are right that at least they didn't get hosed for him...I mean, it's not like they are using a 1st rounder, giving up another 1st rounder, a 2nd and a 3rd to get him...

...Uggghh...

...OK, can we stop talking about Jason Campbell now??

Posted by: p1funk | April 30, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

beantown

"Yes, and I'm pretty sure he (C Crawford)will be on the Red Sox next year.."

Whereas I think Boston should go after him, I do believe Crawford has intimated, a la Texiera a few years ago, that he'd rather be a Yankee.

So if I'm Tampa, I either move him to get players that improve the farm system (and the Rays already have a great farm system), or I sit back, get nothing, and watch him go to NY where he, Granderson, and Gardner become one of the best outfields in the league.

ME?: I trade dude, and move on if I'm Tampa.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 30, 2010 10:44 AM | Report abuse

Have fun at work guys!! IM OUT!

Carl Spackler: So I jump ship in Hong Kong and I make my way over to Tibet, and I get on as a looper at a course over in the Himalayas.
Angie D'Annunzio: A looper?
Carl Spackler: A looper, you know, a caddy, a looper, a jock. So, I tell them I'm a pro jock, and who do you think they give me? The Dalai Lama, himself. Twelfth son of the Lama. The flowing robes, the grace, bald... striking. So, I'm on the first tee with him. I give him the driver. He hauls off and whacks one - big hitter, the Lama - long, into a ten-thousand foot crevasse, right at the base of this glacier. Do you know what the Lama says? Gunga galunga... gunga, gunga-lagunga. So we finish the eighteenth and he's gonna stiff me. And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.

Posted by: skinsfanintampa | April 30, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

al, you needed stats to tell you that Rock was useless....seriously??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 30, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

I knew he was overrated by most fans, but I did not realize he had 0 tackles all last year.

Posted by: alex35332 | April 30, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Hey WAPO....Can you give Maese a try as FT RI blogger? Even during this "Down time" he has more compelling posts than that hack Reid.

Call Reid and tell him he's on permanent vacation. When he get's back, bump over to the Mystics desk.

Thanks, and have a nice weekend.

Posted by: WaitingGuilty | April 30, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

The Raiders went 5-11 with QBs that combined to throw 10 TDs, 18 INTs, and completed 53.6% of their passes. This was, by far, the worst part of their team -- and it's not even close.

They'll finish second in the AFC West and be fighting for a playoff spot, with somewhere around 8-10 wins this year.

Book it.

Posted by: psps23 | April 30, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

So who is going to be the Skins version of Andre Johnson/Brandon Marshall??

A.Johnson - 6'2'', 225lbs, 4.43 - 40yd/time
B.Marshall - 6'4'', 229lbs., 4.57-40yd/time
D.Thomas - 6'2'', 215lbs, 4.32 - 40yd/time
M.Kelly - 6'4'', 217lbs., 4.68 - 40yd/time
M.Mitchell - 6'4'',218lbs.,4.49 - 40yd/time

Posted by: p1funk | April 30, 2010 9:24 AM | Report abuse
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Interesting question. What are Andre Johnson's strengths? He's big, has great, great hands, runs good routes, outjumps alot of CBs for the ball, and has good, but not elite speed. Hard worker, solid citizen, smart enough to fully grasp a fairly complex offense in Houston. Doesn't so much get tons of separation as he just outfights CBs for the ball.

Brandon Marshall? Huge, good hands, very good but not elite Darius Hayward Bey-type speed. Elite strength and raw athletic ability. Able to get separation pretty easily. Runs good patterns.

On our team: although I personally don't think we have seen enough of an in-game sample to really state this as fact, most of the analysts say that Malcolm Kelly has the best hands on the team. We all know, though, that his route running is suspect and that he doesn't have good speed. He does seem to me to be slightly quicker than his 40 time would indicate, though. Very tall but a little skinny, which means not as strong as Johnson/Marshall. I haven't seen him fight for balls, mainly b/c he has had much opportunity to do so.

Devin Thomas: Elite speed, suspect route running and grasp of last year's offense, pretty good but not elite hands. I think he'll be more of a factor this year (???). At least he wants to be.

M. Mitchell: A total X factor in my book. Success in the pre-season equals about didly-poo in my book, but he obviously has some talent. A big guy and appears to have pretty good hands and some speed.

My conclusion: we don't have anyone on the roster as capable as Andre Johnson or Brandon Marshall (which isn't a surprise to anyone). In my opinion, Shanny will ask Malcolm Kelly to fill the role of the receiver breaking over the middle, in traffic and is expected to pull down the ball for the 25-yard grab - an Andre Johnson-lite, if you will. I think Devin Thomas will ultimately become a slot guy, #2 receiver who may fill 'Tana's shoes someday. Who knows about Marko Mitchell. The rest of our guys are backups, old, or training campt fodder.

Anyone else have opinions?

Posted by: skinsfan713 | April 30, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Cannonball, tampa! Cannonball it!

Did you get a free bowl of soup with that hat?

Posted by: DikShuttle | April 30, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

If you heard an explosion last night it was this guy’s credibility plummeting to earth like a frickin meteorite.


Posted by: dlhaze1 | April 30, 2010 10:31 AM

Posted by: Hackersk | April 30, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

If you heard an explosion last night it was this guy’s credibility plummeting to earth like a frickin meteorite.


Posted by: dlhaze1 | April 30, 2010 10:31
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I thought that was Thunder booooooming in the night!!!! True Skins fans Rule!!!

Posted by: Hackersk | April 30, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Gunga galunga... gunga, gunga-lagunga.

CLASSIC!

Posted by: boysheadcoach | April 30, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

"Anyone else have opinions?"

Both D Bryant and D Thomas (rookies) will have better seasons than M Kelly.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 30, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

"Anyone else have opinions?"

Both D Bryant and D Thomas (rookies) will have better seasons than M Kelly.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 30, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse
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Well, that may be true. Dez has talent. My addendum to my post is that I'm not sure that, ultimately, Malcolm Kelly has the enough ability to do what they're going to ask of him.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | April 30, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

It's 'Marko Time'...Put him in Coach

Posted by: kahlua87 | April 30, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

I think both MK, and DT have big years, given the uptick in coaching, and game planning, I can't help but think that MS/KS are gonna find a way to utilize these guys...getting DT the ball on slip screens, MK on the skinny post..the new coach's 'have a clue' its not their first rodeo....unlike the old coach.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 30, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | April 30, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Elaine: I'm chomping at the bit.

Larry: Is it champing or chomping?

Elaine: Huh? It's chomping.

Larry: Is it spelled champing but pronounced chomping?

Elaine: No. It's spelled chomping and pronounced chomping.

Larry: Ehhh, I don't know about that...

Posted by: bobisimo | April 30, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

And if the O's get any kind of pitching, the whole dynamic of the division changes, because they can hit.

Posted by: MistaMoe | April 30, 2010 8:53 AM

Umm, WRONG! They have worst BA w RISP in MLB, and their starting pitching has been much better than anticipated.

Posted by: KellRawLive | April 30, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Whoa, you had me right up to the he's my pencil bit - but I like what I'm hearing.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | April 30, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Danario Alexander from mizzu he will be what we thought Kelly should be. when he is able to pass a physical we need to get his john handcock on a contract with redskins nation.

Posted by: dakel76 | April 30, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Alexander is a major injury concern though, correct? Hasn't he had multiple surgeries on the same knee?

Posted by: KellRawLive | April 30, 2010 12:20 PM | Report abuse

If you heard an explosion last night it was this guy’s credibility plummeting to earth like a frickin meteorite.


Posted by: dlhaze1 | April 30, 2010 10:31
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I thought that was Thunder booooooming in the night!!!! True Skins fans Rule!!!

Posted by: Hackersk | April 30, 2010 10:58 AM

It was a pretty light show.

Posted by: edvar | April 30, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

I AM SICK OF PEOPLE TALKING BOUT CUTTING CP & MOSS THEIR DA BEST PEOPLE ON MY TEAM!

Posted by: MRIDDICK1 | April 30, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Mitchell is the best reciever next to Moss. He has sticky fingers. There is a known bias in NFL to overplay high draft picks, the 2nd rounders are average at best.

Posted by: vincentc | April 30, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Moss is not as good as he gets credit for. Not hating on him, but he's prone to have too many so-so games. The young receivers will benefit from somebody who can see the field and get them the ball. Zorn and JC17 did nothing to help those guys develop. If they don't step it up this year, we should send them packing at the end of the season. No need to keep dead wood around.

Posted by: jfoster13 | April 30, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

McCardell should get a chance to coach T.O.

Posted by: coparker5 | April 30, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Thomas, Kelly, Moss & Mitchell, as well as Davis & Cooley have no excuse this year. McNabb is gonna make them all better, all they have to do is CATCH THE BALL.

GO SKINS!!!!

Posted by: datruth21 | April 30, 2010 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Some hard choices to be made with all these receivers coming to camp!

Posted by: herbertfoley7 | April 30, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

I am totally confident with our WR crew. I think McCardell is the right guy to coach them. I'm trying not to get too psyched about us this season, but I think Shanahan is going to get the most out of these players.

I can tell he is so serious about winning and is on a mission. He might will this team to succeed beyone all our expectations. Go Skins!

Posted by: Gibbs4Pres | May 1, 2010 8:51 AM | Report abuse

Look at the receivers who thrived under Shanahan and you will note that very few had the raw talent the skins have on their roster at this position. Ed McCaffrey claims a big reason for that success is Shanahan's emphasis on the idea you're a football player who plays wide receiver. Getting receivers mentally and physically into every snap makes them much more effective on those few downs when the only job they have is to get open and catch the ball. If you watched a Shanahan Bronco team, all his pass catchers were intense on every down. I hope these guys realize whatt a huge opportunity they have with Shanahan in town. If they embrace this approach to the position, this group could really surprise some people over the next two years.

Posted by: feeney | May 1, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

i just put t.o. on my madden ps3 football team and so far he and donavan are doing well for the skins! I told t.o. any problems and i will cut his behind! he has been a model for our young wrs! So far, no cops, sexual assults, drugs, guns and crazy salaries demands! He even was nice to compliment me on 3 down call in a recent game. besides Joey Galloway would have put me over salary cap. Call me wacko, but i was not afraid of a feel situps! However, each time t.o. scores, would not hurt me to do a little chubby abs reduce flexs! Just Saying...

Posted by: jamly7733 | May 1, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Moss is not as good as he gets credit for. Not hating on him, but he's prone to have too many so-so games. The young receivers will benefit from somebody who can see the field and get them the ball. Zorn and JC17 did nothing to help those guys develop. If they don't step it up this year, we should send them packing at the end of the season. No need to keep dead wood around.

Posted by: jfoster13
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Jason Campbell has been blamed for everything, from Zorn not knowing how to call plays to the defense not being able to stop a team from marching down the field in the 4th Q. Do you know why Larry Fitzgerald, Sidney Rice, T.O. and others are great receivers? They do a lot of personal training during the off-season. Sidney Rice didn't improve because Brett Favre arrived in Minny. The NFL channel showed Rice in training with a basketball coach learning how to leap during the off-season, and that's why Rice is able to make all of the leaping catches from Favre. Fitzgerald has had special eye-object coordination training because of his eye sight and said that he used what he had learned to concentrate on catching the ball. In addition to that, he has a strenuous off-season training program. T.O. and McNabb were able to set records in Philly because they worked together on timing the entire summer. Jason Campbell asked those scrub receivers to spend time working with him during the off-season, and they didn't. The Wash Post even quoted Moss as saying that he was headed to Miami and would have to get back to Jason. People, stop being so naive. Being a great athlete requires discipline and dedication. Can you honestly say that our receivers put in the time to become great? McCardell can only teach them so much. It is up to the receivers to put in the ADDITIONAL work to take it to the next level.

Posted by: postwell1 | May 1, 2010 10:50 AM | Report abuse

i just put t.o. on my madden ps3 football team and so far he and donavan are doing well for the skins! I told t.o. any problems and i will cut his behind! he has been a model for our young wrs! So far, no cops, sexual assults, drugs, guns and crazy salaries demands! He even was nice to compliment me on 3 down call in a recent game. besides Joey Galloway would have put me over salary cap. Call me wacko, but i was not afraid of a feel situps! However, each time t.o. scores, would not hurt me to do a little chubby abs reduce flexs! Just Saying...

Posted by: jamly7733 | May 1, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Looking forward to NOT having Randel El handed a starting job because of his salary.

Posted by: Section104


Just wish using his handle didn't make me feel so nostalgic, like Riggo...

Posted by: ElYeah | May 2, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

McCardell is a class guy, was a gutsy receiver, and brings a lot of competitiveness to the table. We are lucky to have him.

Posted by: hz9604 | May 2, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

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