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Redskins would look at Randy Moss, Mike Shanahan says

There were reports that the Minnesota Vikings would waive star wide receiver Randy Moss, but Moss was still on the team's roster after Monday's waiver deadline passed.

Would the Redskins pursue Moss if he cleared waivers?

"We're always looking at the best scenario to help our football team," Coach Mike Shanahan said. "That's what we'll do as an organization, you know, look at Randy and make a decision if he gives us a better chance to help our football team win."

A four-time all-pro selection, Moss on Oct. 6 was traded from the New England Patriots to the Vikings, who originally drafted Moss. In a bizarre appearance before the media Sunday after the Patriots' 28-18 victory over the Vikings, Moss expressed his affection for the Vikings' organization, players and Coach Bill Belichick.

If Moss is waived, he would have left two teams on bad terms in the first half of the season.

"I think you look at everything," Shanahan said. "You look at his skill, his ability, where he could help you, possibly."

By Jason Reid  | November 1, 2010; 8:00 PM ET
Categories:  wide receivers  
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Yeah, right coach...

Posted by: edvar | November 1, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Maybe we should bring back Sherman Williams to help with the play calling?

Posted by: edvar | November 1, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Great move Shanahan. He can play left guard.

Posted by: getitritegov | November 1, 2010 8:19 PM | Report abuse

edvar, I think that MS could take over play calling and do a much better job then KS w/o having to call on Sherm...but will never do that to his son.

And this is one of the problems having your son as the OC.

Posted by: kerzon417 | November 1, 2010 8:25 PM | Report abuse

I sure hope that this is head fake to get Jerrah to pull the trigger on a waiver claim...

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | November 1, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Hell he can't be any worse than Joey "Grandpa Space Eater" Galloway.

The only thing I would consider though, does our swiss cheese offensive line give a QB enough time to throw deep to a Randy Moss?

Based on what we saw yesterday-

Hell na-a-aaw!!!

Posted by: 72Redskins | November 1, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Play Terence Austin.

At the very least, replace Galloway with someone with a little quickness, who can run decent routes.

Galloway offers nothing. There has to be someone out there who adds another dimension.

Posted by: saltine182 | November 1, 2010 7:21 PM

Skins O-Line is what it is. Below-average.

I will keep posting this here and in Keim's stuff until a reporter asks him why only two wide outs on the team have caught more than 6 passes.

How about lining up Fred Davis like the Bolts do Antonio Gates?

Posted by: saltine182 | November 1, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Maybe we should bring back Sherman Williams to help with the play calling?

Posted by: edvar | November 1, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

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Kinda kills your point when you don't even know who you're talking about.. SHERMAN LEWIS.

Posted by: skins91r | November 1, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

I will keep posting this here and in Keim's stuff until a reporter asks him why only two wide outs on the team have caught more than 6 passes.

Posted by: saltine182 | November 1, 2010 8:28 PM

Sorry. It's 9 catches.

Posted by: saltine182 | November 1, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

I will keep posting this here and in Keim's stuff until a reporter asks him why only two wide outs on the team have caught more than 6 passes.

Posted by: saltine182 | November 1, 2010 8:28 PM

Sorry. It's 9 passes.

Posted by: saltine182 | November 1, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Hope his conditioning and cardio are up to speed. I thought we were done with all this crap. SOS.

Posted by: ridgely1 | November 1, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Have you all thought about it this way:

Now all the pressure is on McNabb. If he plays "lights out" against the Eagles, then all may be forgiven and we get another important division win.

If he stinks up the joint, then people begin to wonder if McNabb is TRULY our QB for the future.

Just as the decision to bench him is idiotic, the notion that McNabb's feelings are hurt and he shouldn't sign here is just as ridiculous.

Winning cures all! Just win baby!

Hail!

Posted by: rickyroge | November 1, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

I got two words for you:
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Joey Galloway
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Let me get this straight. We can acquire Randy Moss in a no salary cap year for $5 million, no draft picks, on an offense that lacks depth and quality in receivers in a year where we have a QB whose specialty is the deep ball and Dan Snyder will need to add 1c to each hot dog sold this season to finance it?

Hmmmmmm. I dunno... I dunno.

Posted by: 20yrskinfan | November 1, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Hell he can't be any worse than Joey "Grandpa Space Eater" Galloway.

The only thing I would consider though, does our swiss cheese offensive line give a QB enough time to throw deep to a Randy Moss?

Based on what we saw yesterday-

Hell na-a-aaw!!!

Posted by: 72Redskins | November 1, 2010 8:27 PM |

I got a question for you what QB leads the league in passes over 50 yards and passes over 40 yards?

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 1, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

How about lining up Fred Davis like the Bolts do Antonio Gates?

Posted by: saltine182 | November 1, 2010 8:28 PM |

How many balls has Fred Davis dropped this year, along with the other receivers your talking about?

Posted by: Flounder21 | November 1, 2010 8:38 PM | Report abuse

don't worry we're going to lose to the cowboys, that's almost as much of a certainty as losing to the lions was

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | November 1, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Yo Catfish Shannahan...you stubborn ignoramus!!! The chances of Randy Moss clearing waivers and being around for you to pick up is almost as likely as the chance of you pulling your head out of your arse and putting the needs of your team ahead of yourself.

I'm convinced that D.C. is effectively a slaughter house for sporting franchises. I'm equally convinced that it is also the breeding ground for greedy narcissistic leaders. We should capitalize on this and bring in TO, Ocho Cinco, Randy Moss to compliment our existing fragmented, self-centered sorry excuse for a front office.

Nothing changes in this city!!! Mediocrity is the goal and under achievement continues to be the norm. I guess there is some consistency at Redskins park after all.

Posted by: ZornInMySide | November 1, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Yo Catfish Shannahan...you stubborn ignoramus!!! The chances of Randy Moss clearing waivers and being around for you to pick up is almost as likely as the chance of you pulling your head out of your arse and putting the needs of your team ahead of yourself.

I'm convinced that D.C. is effectively a slaughter house for sporting franchises. I'm equally convinced that it is also the breeding ground for greedy narcissistic leaders. We should capitalize on this and bring in TO, Ocho Cinco, Randy Moss to compliment our existing fragmented, self-centered sorry excuse for a front office.

Nothing changes in this city!!! Mediocrity is the goal and under achievement continues to be the norm. I guess there is some consistency at Redskins park after all.

Posted by: ZornInMySide | November 1, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Yo Catfish Shannahan...you stubborn ignoramus!!! The chances of Randy Moss clearing waivers and being around for you to pick up is almost as likely as the chance of you pulling your head out of your arse and putting the needs of your team ahead of yourself.

I'm convinced that D.C. is effectively a slaughter house for sporting franchises. I'm equally convinced that it is also the breeding ground for greedy narcissistic leaders. We should capitalize on this and bring in TO, Ocho Cinco, Randy Moss to compliment our existing fragmented, self-centered sorry excuse for a front office.

Nothing changes in this city!!! Mediocrity is the goal and under achievement continues to be the norm. I guess there is some consistency at Redskins park after all.

Posted by: ZornInMySide | November 1, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

This kinda sounds like DM5 in not going to be QBing the Skins next year. Such is life in the soap opera that is Redskins Football.


Mike Shanahan not happy with how Donovan McNabb practices

Posted by Michael David Smith on November 1, 2010 8:05 PM ET
Redskins coach Mike Shanahan can say his decision to bench quarterback Donovan McNabb at the end of Sunday's loss to the Lions was about Rex Grossman having a better handle on the two-minute offense, or about McNabb having problems with his cardiovascular conditioning.

But whatever Shanahan says publicly, there are growing indications that privately, he just doesn't think much of McNabb.

The latest indication comes from ESPN's Chris Mortensen, who reported Monday night that both Shanahan and his son and offensive coordinator, Kyle Shanahan, have been unhappy with the way McNabb practices. According to Mortensen, McNabb doesn't practice at the tempo that the Redskins' coaching staff wants to see from him.

And Mortensen says Shanahan even considered benching McNabb after the Redskins' win over the Eagles, a game in which the Redskins beat McNabb's former team despite McNabb going just 8-for-19 for 125 yards.

Mortensen calls Shanahan's displeasure with McNabb "The worst-kept secret in the league." After Sunday's benching, it's not a secret at all.

Posted by: kerzon417 | November 1, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Mortensen calls Shanahan's displeasure with McNabb "The worst-kept secret in the league." After Sunday's benching, it's not a secret at all.

Posted by: kerzon417 | November 1, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

And thanks to my prescient analysis right here on these pages, Redskin insiders had this news last week.

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 1, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

We need a big time wideout who scares db's. Randy would give us that he is a game changer that could open up this offense. We would give up nothing and get a player who just wants to win. We went with Devin Thomas, Malcom Kelly and a list of others who have done nothing for us at this position. Go get Randy!!!

Posted by: varedskin4lyfe | November 1, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

I love when jack asses come up here and spew there "I told you so's" when their only backup is an even bigger jackass member of the media.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 1, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

What did I learn from the press conference?

Mike Shanahan regretted the decision to bench Donovan. He won't admit, but he did. Who knows what will happen to McNabb next year. Right now, he's without question the Redskins starter.

We're 4-4 when we were expected to be a lot worse. Frustration and anger is the result of gameday mania, and I possess plenty of it on Sunday. The goal for this year was to be better than 4-12, and we're already in good shape.

The Redskins still have years to go before the mistakes of Dan Snyder are undone.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | November 1, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Put Herr Shanahan and his son on waivers and bring back Zorn.
Shame the best part of Mikie's DNA ran down his wifey' leg and we are stuck with Kyle as OC. What kind of man wants to coach with his dad especially when his dad is d*ck!!!

Didn't Herr Shanahan, Brucie and Danny Boy all agree on this trade in the hot tub? Lots of alcohol and sex sometimes results in decisions one regrets about 9mos later.

Who knows what the story on Donovan's benching will be tomorrow?

Wouldn't it b great if the Wp actually had some sports reporters with sources who get the real story not homes like Wise, Reid, and what her name from Kansas? WP has always had the worst sports reporter with the exception of Povich and Wilbon.

I bet Wilbon has the story aren't he and Donovan tight?

Posted by: sheepherder | November 1, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

The latest indication comes from ESPN's Chris Mortensen, who reported Monday night that both Shanahan and his son and offensive coordinator, Kyle Shanahan, have been unhappy with the way McNabb practices. According to Mortensen, McNabb doesn't practice at the tempo that the Redskins' coaching staff wants to see from him.

And Mortensen says Shanahan even considered benching McNabb after the Redskins' win over the Eagles, a game in which the Redskins beat McNabb's former team despite McNabb going just 8-for-19 for 125 yards.

Posted by: kerzon417

This is my question; How in the heck would Mortensen know this? Shanahan certainly did not tell him this and I can't see any of the other coaches divulging info like that either.

And if Shanahan considered benching McNabb after the Eagles game why oh why did he give him the Game Ball?

Second question: Is there anything the Shanahan's like? No player seems to live up to their standards....well, except Joey Galloway and Kory Lichtensteger.

Posted by: Lisa_R | November 1, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Lisa, you forgot Sexy Rexy.

Posted by: kerzon417 | November 1, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

I got a couple of I told you so's for ya'. I told you before Shanahan was hired that he was not a good choice for our head coaching position. I told you before we traded for McNabb that he was not a good idea for our QB. But guess what? They're here so who gives a sh!t what I told you. Time to deal with reality instead of tooting your faggity little horn. A better "I told you so" would be to tell us all how you would fix the situation and then be right about that. I swear to God you little pissant doomsayers just LOOOOVE to be right about our team failing. I wonder why you're even fans at all sometimes. Phuk you and your "I told you so."

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 1, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

DON'T GET YOUR HOPES UP FOR MOSS!
How is the waiver wire order determined? Before Sept. 28, the waiver wire goes in the order of the NFL's worst team to best team based on last year's records. After Sept. 28, the waiver wire changes each week based on the current worst and best record in the NFL.

We aren't high enough up on the list to even have a shot. See below:

NFL - 2010 Regular Season

1) Buffalo Bills
2) Carolina Panthers
3) Dallas Cowboys
4) Denver Broncos
5) San Francisco 49ers
6) Cincinnati Bengals
7) Cleveland Browns
8) Detroit Lions
9) Minnesota Vikings
10) San Diego Chargers
11) Arizona Cardinals
12) Jacksonville Jaguars
13) Oakland Raiders
14) St. Louis Rams
15) Washington Redskins

I'm willing to bet Randy will be a Cowboy, Cardinal or Ram before we even get a chance at considering him.

McNabb and R. Moss may be connecting on long touchdowns soon. Its just going to be in Arizona instead of DC!!!

Posted by: ZornInMySide | November 1, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

My thoughts thus far:
Casey rabotch=sucks think my 80 lbs lab could block and control the line better

Lickinglugers=?? really this guy has the blocking skills of betty white

They need to kick the tires on cook and capers and see if they can be an upgrade on any oline position

Posted by: skinswillwin | November 1, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

I swear to God you little pissant doomsayers just LOOOOVE to be right about our team failing. I wonder why you're even fans at all sometimes. Phuk you and your "I told you so."

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 1, 2010 9:08 PM

haha, we could call it the Pabrian2003 syndrome.

Posted by: kerzon417 | November 1, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Kinda kills your point when you don't even know who you're talking about.. SHERMAN LEWIS.

Posted by: skins91r | November 1, 2010 8:28 PM

Only "Kinda"?.

I'm banning myself from the blog for an "undetermined period of time" for that one.

Posted by: edvar | November 1, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

How in the hell does Shanny think he can "coach" Randy Moss? We can barely relate to the players he has now. Although, I would love to see Shanny take on Randy. That would be "must see TV".

Posted by: Neisha_H | November 1, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Why would the Cowboys want another WR? They already have Miles Austin, Dez Bryant and Roy Williams.

Posted by: Lisa_R | November 1, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

I swear to God you little pissant doomsayers just LOOOOVE to be right about our team failing. I wonder why you're even fans at all sometimes. Phuk you and your "I told you so."

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 1, 2010 9:08 PM

haha, we could call it the Pabrian2003 syndrome.

Posted by: kerzon417 | November 1, 2010 9:12 PM

Or we could call it a bunch of SJKing SJKholes. I love it when a bunch of so called "fans" toot their own horns about being right about our team failing. I mean what kind of "fan" does that? Un-SJKing-believable!

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 1, 2010 9:22 PM | Report abuse

mcnabb taking a sack of 4th and 10 is why he was benched. it was a horrible benching, but that was a horrible play. this never would have happened under zorn, lol.

Posted by: BMACattack | November 1, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Another question: why is everyone predicting McNabb will go to the Vikings?

Yes, they have a great RB and the O line is good....and McNabb is familiar with Childress....but seriously the ONLY coach in the NFL more dysfunctional than Shanahan is Childress.

Posted by: Lisa_R | November 1, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Lisa_R | November 1, 2010 9:26 PM

Childress is gone after this year and why would anyone not only want McNabb but sign him to 3-5 YR deal worth 45-60 Mil.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 1, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Yes, they have a great RB and the O line is good....and McNabb is familiar with Childress....but seriously the ONLY coach in the NFL more dysfunctional than Shanahan is Childress.

Posted by: Lisa_R | November 1, 2010 9:26 PM |

Really? Tom Cable? Mike Singletary?

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 1, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

If there is any chance to get Randy it must be done. Put him at #2 and Armstrong in the slot. With safeties rolling over to moss, Armstrong can get single coverage going deep. Hell even Santana moss can go back to the deep ball. U no what hell just have everyone run deep hail Mary on every play can't be anyworse than what we are doing on offense now.

Posted by: Jmel1 | November 1, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Just watching MNF...

If Matt Schaub is behind our line, he's dead 3 games ago. The guy can't move.

Which is why Kyle doesn't know what he has in McNabb.

They need to back the F up offa him and start calling games to win.

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 1, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

PS - SF is about to send the Texans... Oh, good for them... they're already home.

Love it when Texas cries.

Means good stuff is happening.

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 1, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Tues: Nov 2, 2010
Shanahan: I benched Mcnabb and went with Grossman because Grossman played for the bears and we beat the bears.

Wed: Nov 3, 2010
Shanahan: I benched Mcnabb because after every Mcnabb incompletion, Grossman would tell me that he would have made that throw.

Posted by: kingpenn1 | November 1, 2010 9:37 PM

Posted by: kingpenn1 | November 1, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

If there is any chance to get Randy it must be done. Put him at #2 and Armstrong in the slot. With safeties rolling over to moss, Armstrong can get single coverage going deep. Hell even Santana moss can go back to the deep ball. U no what hell just have everyone run deep hail Mary on every play can't be anyworse than what we are doing on offense now.

Posted by: Jmel1 | November 1, 2010 9:34 PM

Have you seen our O line lately?

undetermined period of time = 27 minutes!

Posted by: edvar | November 1, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Really? Tom Cable? Mike Singletary?

Posted by: scampbell1975

Yes, I definitely put Shanahan and Childress on a higher level of dysfunctionalism than Cable or Singletary. And Cable is not causing any disruption this season and the Raiders are winning....with our previous QB who was also treated like crap here.

Let's face it: we cannot judge any QB on our team until the O line is fixed....and now I'm just sounding like a broken record.

Posted by: Lisa_R | November 1, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

I told you.

This world series is OVER.

Renteria did it

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 1, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Not sure how the Pilsbury Dough Boy was left out of that discussion.

Posted by: kerzon417 | November 1, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Another question: why is everyone predicting McNabb will go to the Vikings?

Yes, they have a great RB and the O line is good....and McNabb is familiar with Childress....but seriously the ONLY coach in the NFL more dysfunctional than Shanahan is Childress.

Posted by: Lisa_R | November 1, 2010 9:26 PM

If you've watched McNabb play, you'll realize that he won't have much choice in where he goes. Shanahan and Reid are both well-respected QB coaches around the league and if both of them drop McNabb, there's not going to be many other coaches who will take a shot on him at his age. McNabb needs to play better in the second half of the season or he'll be looking at only one or two choices and they won't be for big bucks.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 1, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

with our previous QB who was also treated like crap here.

Posted by: Lisa_R | November 1, 2010 9:42 PM |

Treated like crap? We drafted him in the 1st RD when most thought he was a 2nd-3rd RD talent. He had 50 starts to prove himself, he didn't. Have you seen his house in Leesburg?

If anything we should be pissed at him. Great guy, medicore QB.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 1, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

may as well bring in Moss for this year. Shanahan has already blown up the locker room. maybe, with Moss we can compete in the Three-ring-circus Bowl.

Posted by: mdrockjock | November 1, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Yes, I definitely put Shanahan and Childress on a higher level of dysfunctionalism than Cable or Singletary. And Cable is not causing any disruption this season and the Raiders are winning....with our previous QB who was also treated like crap here.

Let's face it: we cannot judge any QB on our team until the O line is fixed....and now I'm just sounding like a broken record.

Posted by: Lisa_R | November 1, 2010 9:42 PM |

Shanny hasn't pulled his pants down or punched a co-worker.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 1, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Thurs, Nov 4, 2010
Shanahan: I benched Mcnabb because he didn't have the cadiovascular endurance to avoid the 3-4 guys that were in his face on every play.

Fri, Nov 5, 2010
Shanahan: I benched Mcnabb because he told reporters that he was looking forward to the bye week so I decided to give him a headstart

Posted by: kingpenn1 | November 1, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Edvar u r right about the O line and the time to hail Mary every play. I guess am still traumatized about lions fans dancing in front of me saying my team sucks.

Posted by: Jmel1 | November 1, 2010 9:53 PM | Report abuse

If you've watched McNabb play, you'll realize that he won't have much choice in where he goes. Shanahan and Reid are both well-respected QB coaches around the league and if both of them drop McNabb, there's not going to be many other coaches who will take a shot on him at his age. McNabb needs to play better in the second half of the season or he'll be looking at only one or two choices and they won't be for big bucks.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 1, 2010 9:46 PM

Beeps. I don't think you really thought that one all the way through. You don't think The Browns would go after McNabb? Buffalo? Seriously?

I mean, Jake Delhomme got signed, and he just plain sukked last year.

A good coach would know that our BS O line is a major contributor to McNabbs demise, and figure he could do a lot worse than McNabb.

Posted by: edvar | November 1, 2010 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Shanny hasn't pulled his pants down or punched a co-worker.

Posted by: scampbell1975

That was sooo 2008 and 2009. I'm talking 2010 here.

Posted by: Lisa_R | November 1, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Great read. Rich Tandler is second to only Keim in Skins coverage. Click on the Orakpo hold.

http://www.csnwashington.com/11/01/10/After-Further-Review-Shanahans-Other-Dec/landing_v3.html?blockID=343445&feedID=4717&qv=1#bp

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 1, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Edvar u r right about the O line and the time to hail Mary every play. I guess am still traumatized about lions fans dancing in front of me saying my team sucks.

Posted by: Jmel1 | November 1, 2010 9:53 PM

That can only be bad.

Condolences.

Posted by: edvar | November 1, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone noticed that DM5 tends to throw a bomb at the most improper time? It seems like in every game this season when we've been down, but within striking distance at the end of the game...we have a scenario where it's 3rd and 10 or 4th and 12 and he's chucking the ball 50 yards down field. I get (and like) his tendancy to push the ball down the field, but time and place man! For a while I thought that was "the plan," but now, I think that is what MS is referring to when he says that McNabb doesn't get the 2 minute drill. Look dude, perfectly fine in the second quarter. Not perfectly fine down three points with 90 seconds left and ten yards to convert a first down. Particularly when the receiver you're trying to hit is double covered, and the receiver you need to hit is wide friggin open.

Posted by: brianearman | November 1, 2010 10:03 PM | Report abuse

How about we recall Jim Lachey, Russ Grimm, Jeff Bostic, Mark May, and Joe Jacoby out of retirement? I've had enough with the current OL on our roster! Trade or cut them all! With the shocking movement from the Vikings cutting Randy Moss, it wouldn't surprise me if the Redskins cut McNabb. You know the saying: "You can't teach a old dog new tricks." McNabb has a huge ego, he can't see past his nose to learn the new offense. Bruce Allen has some serious rebuilding to do.

Posted by: RedCherokee | November 1, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Time to deal with reality instead of tooting your faggity little horn. A better "I told you so" would be to tell us all how you would fix the situation and then be right about that. I swear to God you little pissant doomsayers just LOOOOVE to be right about our team failing. I wonder why you're even fans at all sometimes. Phuk you and your "I told you so."

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 1, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

!!! You want short term fixes or real fixes? Personally I'm not interested in short term fixes 'cause they aren't real fixes.

The possibility for real fixes won't begin as usual until the off season. Simply put -- we've been exposed now. The Skins don't have the horses this year. Play Doc, sign Moss, run bootlegs...whatever. It won't make any real difference.

I like 7-9 and I'm good with that. You just gotta hope Snyder is too.

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 1, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Schaub makes Jason Campbell look like Peyton Manning.

Gosh. Seems like a guy can look better when he's not being smashed in the face repeatedly.

Hmmmm.

O Line?

Oh really?

Wow.

When will the hamsters catch on?

Never?

Oh, I wouldn't say that.

It's coming.

But O Line earns Zero points in Fantasy Football.

True.

Maybe you're right.

Maybe never.

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 1, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Shanny hasn't pulled his pants down or punched a co-worker.

Posted by: scampbell1975

That was sooo 2008 and 2009. I'm talking 2010 here.

Posted by: Lisa_R | November 1, 2010 9:58 PM |

Oh, so a year or 2 and they're healed huh? And as a matter of consequence, you didn't specify a certain year. You said dysfunctional. Can't change the argument midway through.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 1, 2010 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Coach can start Rexy for all I care. As far as McNabb is concerned, the only interesting question is how do you optimize the situation for next year. How do you sign him for less or trade him for more? What's the plan, Stan?

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 1, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Moss is expensive , the Skins are rich..Few teams outside of us have got the doe-ray-mee to take on that contract, particularly if its just to the end of the year and your team has just an outside chance at the playoffs, like most of the lower 15 do...SIGN HIM, DANNO!!!

Posted by: frak | November 1, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Oh, so a year or 2 and they're healed huh? And as a matter of consequence, you didn't specify a certain year. You said dysfunctional. Can't change the argument midway through.

Posted by: scampbell1975

I can say whatever I darn well please. It was quite evident that I was referring to this season as Shanahan did not even coach last season and Childress was not so crazy this time last year.

Posted by: Lisa_R | November 1, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Good time for a bye week.

Now make these changes..

Bench Rabach and put Lichensucks at C and put Doc back at LG.

Cut Galloway and bring up Austin.

Remind KS that we don't have Schuab and Johnson and that we need a more balanced approach and never go into a game with 2 active RBs.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 1, 2010 7:34 PM

I agree with benching Rabach and moving Doc back to LG. The running game will suffer some, but since KS is a pass first OC, then having the better pass pro "games the team the best possible chance to win."

Not sure how much help Austin will be. At least if he's up he'd get experience, but I can't see how he'd improve the pass game.

Posted by: TWISI | November 1, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

I loved it when Jawz went on and on regarding Randy Moss about how "team" is the important thing and if you're not about "team" nobody in the league wants you.

Gruden told him he's still with Minnesota.

Jawz is a F'king Tool. He knows a lot about football, but he's still a goofy F'king tool with a giant F'king head.

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 1, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Wow you know I can't think of stupider moves than signing Randy Moss. This team desperately needs to rebuild and get younger. There aren't going to be playoffs this year with one of the worst O-lines in NFL. King Kong couldn't help at wide receiver, why bring a doosh like Moss here?

Posted by: Pepper5 | November 1, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Houston, we have a problem.

Dallas, you're done.

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 1, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

HaHa.

Texas Sucks.

Couldn't have happened to a nicer state full of rednecks.

Oh, and thanks for the Presidents, too.

They were great. Really. Just great.

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 1, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse

put Lichensucks at C

+++

What makes you think he'll be any better at Center? He's 6-2 290ish and getting crushed without adding snapping responsibilities. Maybe he can play TE.

Eric Cooke is 6-6 315/320. Give him a shot. He might not get to "the second level", but he holds his ground. At least the QB will have four more yards in front of him to step up.

Posted by: edvar | November 1, 2010 10:36 PM | Report abuse

McNabb needs to play better in the second half of the season or he'll be looking at only one or two choices and they won't be for big bucks.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 1, 2010 9:46 PM

Beeps. I don't think you really thought that one all the way through. You don't think The Browns would go after McNabb? Buffalo? Seriously?

Posted by: edvar | November 1, 2010 9:57 PM

What I said is he won't have many choices and they won't be for much money.

Not only am I sticking by what I wrote, it looks like you agree with me. Buffalo? Browns?

The whole league had a shot at McNabb last spring. Philly shopped him for two months. Only the Redskins made a serious offer for the guy.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 1, 2010 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Not sure how much help Austin will be. At least if he's up he'd get experience, but I can't see how he'd improve the pass game.

Posted by: TWISI | November 1, 2010 10:25 PM

I thought Austin showed a lot of polish at WR in the preseason. He's too small to play on teams coverage but JG doesn't contribute on teams either.

Either way they need to focus on the OL and McNabb in the next two weeks. Both have been a huge disappointment.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 1, 2010 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Both Gruden and Jaws are tools.

Gruden was such a tough guy with his Chucky-face, until he started yucking it up with Ron "The Human Cartoon" Jaworski.

Ever notice how both those guys always address each other with their comments?

I wonder if Mike Tirico is ever thinking to himself - "It's a 3-man booth, guys".

Posted by: p1funk | November 1, 2010 10:36 PM | Report abuse

McNabb needs to play better in the second half of the season or he'll be looking at only one or two choices and they won't be for big bucks.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 1, 2010 9:46 PM

Beeps. I don't think you really thought that one all the way through. You don't think The Browns would go after McNabb? Buffalo? Seriously?

Posted by: edvar | November 1, 2010 9:57 PM

What I said is he won't have many choices and they won't be for much money.

Not only am I sticking by what I wrote, it looks like you agree with me. Buffalo? Browns?

The whole league had a shot at McNabb last spring. Philly shopped him for two months. Only the Redskins made a serious offer for the guy.

Posted by: beep-beep | November 1, 2010 10:36 PM

You make a valid point, but I think there's a BIG difference between giving up draft picks and signing a FA. If McNabb hits the market, he'll have bidders.

Let's finish this conversation in March when we know more. We both know we'll still be here, even if McNabb isn't.

Posted by: edvar | November 1, 2010 10:43 PM | Report abuse

I can say whatever I darn well please. It was quite evident that I was referring to this season as Shanahan did not even coach last season and Childress was not so crazy this time last year.


Posted by: Lisa_R | November 1, 2010 10:19 PM |

Same ol' dumbass Lisa. Somethings never change up here. Later Nerds.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | November 1, 2010 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: edvar | November 1, 2010 10:36 PM |

Why? Because he's a center playing OG.

This was his resume in college at C.

2x Second-team All-MAC (2004-2005)
2x First-team All-MAC (2006-2007)
Rimington Trophy finalist (2007)

Pretty sure he couldn't be worse. 2 weeks to teach him the line calls and I'd like to never see Rabach again.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 1, 2010 10:46 PM | Report abuse

new kerz, same as the old curz. Good to see the poopy treatment didn't take.

I think there may be a kernel of truth to what Shanny said at his presser, but it's still thinly veiled BS. I agree with whoever said Shanny is entitled to make this kind of decision and doesn't have to care if everyone disagrees.

It was a dumb move.

However, both are def pros. They spoke this morning, and since they're both supposedly adults I think they hash this out.

Kerz, I think it was you this morning that brought up K-Shan on the sideline before that stupid draw acting like he had no idea what the team was running and was like "WTF?!". I think there's a lot we don't know. For all we know, McNabb started changing plays to suit his comfort zone, or some other such power struggle with his OC. (just throwin stuff at the wall here)

Whatevs, #5 will play well or watch from the bench. The whole team was just given notice yesterday.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | November 1, 2010 11:02 PM | Report abuse

JR - I think you meant Moss expressed his affection for the Patriots' organization.

And yeah, we should pick him up... if you're going to run a circus anyway, you may as well add more clowns.

Posted by: KellyInBC | November 1, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

And not sure if this has brought up yet, but for all those saying McNabb kept us in the game with his legs:

If he made his reads and got the ball out quickly, wouldn't he not need to scramble as much?

I don't know what was called or if the WRs were getting any separation, but I find it hard to believe that we don't call routes for a hot read with the pass rush we've been getting while running a frickin WCO. Nor do I believe the receivers aren't getting open on all of these scrambles.

I'm still saying McNabb is the best QB we have and I'm def still rooting for the guy, I'm just saying there's a good chance he's not blameless here.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | November 1, 2010 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Really WaPo? You're going to make me corroborate your BS?! fkucking edit your shti before you post it up here.

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 1, 2010 11:13 PM | Report abuse

"HaHa.

Texas Sucks.

Couldn't have happened to a nicer state full of rednecks.

Oh, and thanks for the Presidents, too.

They were great. Really. Just great.

Posted by: Thinker"

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean, said Buckaroo Bonzai..Most of those people CAN'T HELP that their country, I mean, state has been hijacked by a pack of oil-company-Warmachine d*cks (like Warshington, D.C.)...Some of the best bands alive come from Texas, even Dallas (Butthole Surfers, Ministry, Rob Zombie, etc.- which is why I don't slam the Cowboys too hard) But, if you're gonna be "white trash", be "Texas White Trash"!!..Its INDUSTRIAL STRENGTH!!..(Hail Gary Panter!!)..

Posted by: frak | November 1, 2010 11:14 PM | Report abuse

MD white trah rules all!

Redneck Zombies!!

Rob wishes he was that f'n cool.
c'mon man, we had (have?) black rednecks! don't get no badder'n that.

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 1, 2010 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Why? Because he's a center playing OG.

This was his resume in college at C.

2x Second-team All-MAC (2004-2005)
2x First-team All-MAC (2006-2007)
Rimington Trophy finalist (2007)

Pretty sure he couldn't be worse. 2 weeks to teach him the line calls and I'd like to never see Rabach again.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 1, 2010 10:46 PM

He ain't big enough or strong enough. Why would getting blown off the line at G be any different than getting blown off the line at C?

Posted by: edvar | November 1, 2010 11:24 PM | Report abuse

MIKE WILLIAMS - CLEAR THOSE ARTERIES MAN, WE NEED YOU..........BAD!

Posted by: glawrence007 | November 1, 2010 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: RomoLongballs | November 1, 2010 11:11 PM

McNabb has made plays with his legs even though he's obviously injured. McNabb has had the advantage of playing in the same scheme for the last 10 years and I said, MS, KS said it would be an adjustment for McNabb to learn a new O.

He's been bad and to your point we don't know all the behind the scene stuff.

Bottom-line: the OL is problem #1 thru #4 but McNabb has to be #5.

So to be clear here it was galactically stupid to bench McNabb with a QB that is less moble and who's name is Rex Grossman. McNabb did lead the Skins in the 2 min drill in the first half to a FG.

Dhall has won 2 games for us and Banks should have won this game for us. McNabb has 2 weeks to get his act together and MS and KS have to do their best with the OL and improve their play calling.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 1, 2010 11:29 PM | Report abuse


In reading todays comments from posters I noticed Brandon Banks name was missing. Fans are quick to forget the positives in a loss. Banks should be special teams player of the week after his performance yesterday:)

Posted by: Flip_Flop | November 1, 2010 11:30 PM | Report abuse

"c'mon man, we had (have?) black rednecks! don't get no badder'n that.."

Which is why we gotta git that ol' West Virginia redneck Moss into the camp!! He'd love it here and could go race his groun' hogs durin' summer!!

Posted by: frak | November 1, 2010 11:31 PM | Report abuse

So to be clear here it was galactically stupid to bench McNabb with a QB that is less moble and who's name is Rex Grossman. McNabb did lead the Skins in the 2 min drill in the first half to a FG.

Dhall has won 2 games for us and Banks should have won this game for us. McNabb has 2 weeks to get his act together and MS and KS have to do their best with the OL and improve their play calling.

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 1, 2010 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Roger that.

Frickin love Banks. Chalk him up as one of the wins for Shanny the GM and Shanny the HC/motivator.

Night peeps.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | November 1, 2010 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Hey frak:

Shouldn't that be 'book him DANNO.'

BTW DANNO died this past week, and I no hit must ha've bean tru' 'cause I seed it in the newspaper.

Posted by: glawrence007 | November 1, 2010 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Ha Ha.

Schaub sucks.

He'd be a F'king basket case if he'd been on the Redskins the last two years.

Oh, well.

Not fair that our O Line only demoralizes and ruins OUR QB's careers.

Here's another poorly kept secret in the league: Shanny is a maniac.

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 1, 2010 11:43 PM | Report abuse

You mean the red-haired dude from all the Disney and beach movies?? Damn, too bad...Haven't seen the new "Hawaii-Five-O", but the old one made good Balto-trash antenna TV..That and "Streets of San Francisco" truly rawked..

Posted by: frak | November 1, 2010 11:46 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I'd have to say Randy Moss is one Black Redneck dude.

Never really thought about it, but, yeah, definitely.

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 1, 2010 11:48 PM | Report abuse

"Not fair that our O Line only demoralizes and ruins OUR QB's careers"

NFC Post Of The Week!!

Posted by: frak | November 1, 2010 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Love me some Banks, too.

Not the bailed out ones... you know what I mean.

'Night Skins fans. Sleep tight. Don't let Shanny bench your ass before mornin'

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 1, 2010 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Yeh, if you can get Stompy to ball (finally), TallMoss should be a piece o' cake. Hey, he qualifies OTH. Brang it!

I'm witcha, Frak~!

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 1, 2010 11:52 PM | Report abuse

I guess am still traumatized about lions fans dancing in front of me saying my team sucks.

Posted by: Jmel1 | November 1, 2010 9:53 PM

Yeah, condolences. That's tough. Watch the Skins from your couch. At least for the remainder of this year. It's not safe to venture out yet.

Lions fans? Are you sure?

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 1, 2010 11:54 PM | Report abuse

So the Patriots are the top rated BCS team and last in line for Moss..That is an organization with its serious sh*t together..

Posted by: frak | November 1, 2010 11:59 PM | Report abuse

I'll play Devol's advocate here & back Shanny on the decision.

It wasn't made in the scope of the game. All his posturing is BS, as he's been all season. He doesn't want you to know his reasoning. But it's not too hard to guess.

The decision was made for the long haul & had two purposes 1) Show Kyle what happens when you knee jerk. I don't see Mike calling these games - I see Kyle doing that. And 2) Let Mc'Lovin' know he needs to play intelligently when his back is against the wall.

McNabb has been a talent for a long time & has relied upon his raw talent for most of that. Well, now his line is so incredibly bad, and he's got so few reliable resources at his disposal, he needs to perform properly, not just well.

I see all this as a positive. Like running a fever to get better afterwords. If we come out of this with Moss-medicine, all the better.

HAIL to 'em

& Banks is crazy. Teh fact that he isn't hamburger yet is AMAZING.

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 2, 2010 12:02 AM | Report abuse

From Shutdown Corner.

"Had Shanahan made the decision early in the fourth quarter, then maybe I could understand. But with 110 seconds left? On a last-ditch effort to win? There's no defense for that.

Not that McNabb is a victim in all of this. He's been a mediocre quarterback this season and was even worse than that in Detroit. McNabb was underthrowing receivers, holding onto the ball for too long and getting intercepted in the fourth quarter on a pass that was carelessly heaved into triple coverage. (It eventually led to the game-winning score.) Every ball felt like it was coming out of his hands a little too late. The timing was completely off.

Even McNabb's big completions came on bad throws. Twice he hit Redskins receivers for gains over 40 yards, but each time the ball was severely mistimed or underthrown. The receivers had to break their route and slow down to get the ball, which turned easy touchdowns into mere big gains. He was playing poorly enough to get pulled. He was also proving that his comfort with the two-minute offense was uneasy, at best.

On the drive before his benching, McNabb and the Redskins faced second and 10 from their own 28-yard line. It was the natural time to run the hurry-up offense. But McNabb called a huddle. If there was any urgency, the quarterback didn't outwardly show it. The first-down play (a 10-yard pass to Santana Moss(notes) that came after a holding call) had come with 3:00 left in the game. The next snap went off with 2:29. Thirty-one seconds to run one play. That suggests Shanahan is right when he says McNabb isn't good with the two-minute offense. He's strolling when he should be sprinting.

That's not exactly breaking news, though. McNabb has never been great with the two-minute drill. Shanahan knew that when he brought him in, knew that when he started the season and knew that every other time he's had McNabb run the two-minute offense this season."

Posted by: Diesel44 | November 2, 2010 12:03 AM | Report abuse

What's up Dik..Did you already own "Crash Landing" by Hendrix?? 'Fraid standard issue bootleggage all I could think of...I've found some bizarre sh*t searching through Amazon in foreign countries , for example Amazon Japan...

Posted by: frak | November 2, 2010 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Wow - blowing my mind there. No, but I will put that on the list for Xmas!

I've been busy w/ little Shuttlette! 5 mo. old now! Real smart, happy and healthy. Mrs. Shuttle & I can't figure out how she got that way! lol.

Haven't been playin' much geetar at all. :(

Mebbe soon, tho - I need a gig for extra $$!

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 2, 2010 12:12 AM | Report abuse

curz/kerz...did your old handle really get banned? your a pussy cat, what did you do?

Posted by: chrislarry | November 2, 2010 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Mebbe soon, tho - I need a gig for extra $$!

Posted by: DikShuttle


The holidays always seem to vomit forth coinage for musicians in some way, shape, or foam..Good Luck!!

Posted by: frak | November 2, 2010 12:28 AM | Report abuse

MIKE WILLIAMS - CLEAR THOSE ARTERIES MAN, WE NEED YOU..........BAD!

Posted by: glawrence007 | November 1, 2010 11:28 PM

The BEST & lovable post of the day!

Praying for you, Mike.

Posted by: RedCherokee | November 2, 2010 12:54 AM | Report abuse

That's what I thought cL, usually mind my own business. responded to a comment that got pulled on fri. my post never showed, but have not been able to use that handle.

Posted by: kerzon417 | November 2, 2010 1:06 AM | Report abuse

Still can't get my head around this shabingus during the endgame Sunday...

I can't shake the feeling that Shanahan thought it was better for the team that he send a message to Macca by benching him than to give them team a realistic shot to win the game. And that's pissing me off.

But then... but then... the team is 4-4 in a season I predicted would be 8-8. And they don't have an O line. So all things considered, I'm having trouble getting too worked up.

So what I'm saying is, I dunno, F it. It's bye week, and thank goodness for that.

Hail to 'em anyway.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | November 2, 2010 1:14 AM | Report abuse

That's what I'm sayin', Nate. This is about the qB play & the season. Screw the ego bs. Play right or sit.

Now...that line...

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 2, 2010 1:22 AM | Report abuse

I hear ya, Dik, and part of me agrees with you that Shanny made the right call.

But most of me is dealing with the realization that my faith in the Ultimate Leader has been significantly diminished over the past few months, and this Macca benching feels like a watershed moment.

Golly, coming off the bye and beating Philly two nights hence sure would make us all feel better, wouldn't it?

Posted by: NateinthePDX | November 2, 2010 1:36 AM | Report abuse

All I can say is you know things are going crazy around here when there's a whole thread with no mention of Fat Albert. Wonder what he's thinking about this?

Posted by: bones21 | November 2, 2010 1:38 AM | Report abuse

Signing Moss would really fill a need. After all we had the early season Shanahan-Haynesworth controversy, now we have the mid season Shanahan-McNabb controversy and we could all look forward to a late season Shanahan-Moss controversy if we manage to land him.

Posted by: ExPatYankee | November 2, 2010 1:52 AM | Report abuse

Well, I AM a Redskins fan, and I say McNabb-YES, R. Moss-YES, M.Shanahan-YES, Kyle Shanahan-YES, O-Line-NO, Haynesworth-YES, D. Hall-YES, Brandon Banks-YES, Warmachine Banks-NO, WAR-NO, Electric Car-YES, Nitro Car-YES, Steam Power-YES, Building From The Ground Up-YES, Artificial fixes-NO, Individual rights-YES, Corporate rights as an Individual-NO, Old European/Animal Struggle For Imperial Power-NO, Inner Peace-YES,Cancerous Constipation-NO, Activia Sh*t-Inducing Smoothies-YES

Posted by: frak | November 2, 2010 2:06 AM | Report abuse

Signing McNabb would really fill a need, too...

Posted by: frak | November 2, 2010 2:11 AM | Report abuse

"Two nights hence" er... two weeks hence... but you already knew that.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | November 2, 2010 2:17 AM | Report abuse

That's what I'm sayin', Nate. This is about the qB play & the season. Screw the ego bs. Play right or sit.

Now...that line...

Posted by: DikShuttle | November 2, 2010 1:22 AM

Hmmmm. Play "right?"

As in play RIGHT, Campbell, you're holding the ball too long, now go deep and don't checkdown, and by the way, run for your life?

Yeah. Play right.

NOBODY can play right behind that joke of a line. For even suggesting you can measure a QB behind that thing is idiocy.

By the way, the only thing we know about Shanahan's decision so far is that he has lied at least twice to cover up the real reason. He's come out with three stories so far.

The guy is a liar.

He didn't say, "Play right." He said, "I'm going with Rex because he gives us the best chance to win"

And he told us 3 stories, too.

He's a liar and if you buy it, DikShuttle, more power to him. If he could find 52 gullible fools like yourself and a handful of reporters with no critical thinking skills... well, it would really suck.

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 2, 2010 4:47 AM | Report abuse

Yes, I definitely put Shanahan and Childress on a higher level of dysfunctionalism than Cable or Singletary.

Posted by: Lisa_R | November 1, 2010 9:42 PM


Wade Phillips, Norv Turner, and Mike Singletary all send their regards.

Seriously...how you could put Shanahan (who has about as many wins this season as the 3 I mentioned combined) in the same sentence as those guys is beyond dumb. We've had more than our fair share of drama here, but it doesn't compare to the insane levels of dysfunction those other 4 cities are seeing right now. It's not even close.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 2, 2010 5:00 AM | Report abuse

What We’ve Learned 11/2/10
By: John Keim
Examiner Staff Writer
11/01/10 11:57 PM EDT

1. The offensive line will need a major overhaul in the offseason » That’s not a surprise considering that was the feeling even after victories. But the Redskins need to find a couple good young interior linemen and possibly even a right tackle, especially if they don’t think Jammal Brown will fully recover from his hip issues. Though Kory Lichtensteiger has not played well, it’s not as if Derrick Dockery’s return to the lineup will solve the problems. Dockery is an average guard who struggled to pick up stunts this summer. But he would add power. Regardless, it wouldn’t be stunning if the Redskins ended up with four new linemen next season (as they have this year). Years of neglect up front in the past have caused problems for this regime.

2. The offense is no better than it was at season’s start » A lot of that stems from the offensive line issues, but that’s not the only problem. Washington only has two viable options at receiver, Santana Moss and Anthony Armstrong. The other two wideouts contribute very little. Joey Galloway has shown no signs that he has anything left, as many had predicted. Donovan McNabb’s play in the red zone and on third downs suggests he has a long ways to go, both in terms of grasping the offense and trusting his protection.

3. Clinton Portis is missed — mostly in pass protection » The Redskins lack anyone who is consistent in this area and, with a shaky offensive line, it’s imperative to have someone experienced to pick up blitzers. Ask McNabb if he misses Portis. Rookie Keiland Williams is a willing blocker and isn’t bad, but the Lions took advantage of his inexperience. One time, Williams helped double team Ndamukong Suh and ignored a blitzer, leading to a hit on McNabb.

4. The defense is playing better as players have figured out their roles and have adapted to the new system » They’ve also been fairly solid when teams start drives in their territory. However, that wasn’t the case Sunday. Of the five drives the Lions began inside the 50-yard line, they scored 24 points. Another drive ended with a DeAngelo Hall interception. Before this game, opponents had started eight drives in Redskins territory, scoring 17 points. Of course, allowing a team to start so many times in your territory is a big issue.

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sports/blogs/redskins-confidential/What-Weve-Learned-11210-106496363.html#ixzz1477r5oxe

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 2, 2010 5:04 AM | Report abuse

The more I think about it, the less I like the idea of getting Randy Moss...if at the first sign of trouble or the first time McNabb skips a pass at his feet, Randy heads for the podium to give verbal fellatio to Belichick and the Pats, then that's an added distraction we don't need. Apparently, we already have our hands full with a full blown QB controversy.

This McNabb thing is depressing...burning two picks on a guy that you weren't sure about is crazy. All we heard about was how he was a perfect fit in this scheme and that he was their guy. Now they don't like how he practices. UFB...

It wasn't a secret that McNabb is a playful character and doesn't possess the kind of burning intensity you'll see in guys like Tom Brady. If that was an issue with Shanahan, then he should have drafted a QB or gone the cheap route with The Human Turnover for a year to bridge the gap to this year's draft (which is supposed to be paydirt for teams looking for a QB). Blowing two picks for a one year stopgap is wasteful at best.

Geez...amazing how things can go from hopeful to train wreck in the space of a couple days...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 2, 2010 5:29 AM | Report abuse

And P F'king S -

Shanahan wasn't "sending a message" or putting anybody "on notice"

You all need to stop reading the tea leaves and look at it for what it is... A pile of F'king tea leaves.

I think he REALLY thought Rex would lead them down to a TD. Because HIS offense is perfect. If only McNabb would quit "freelancing" and "dancing around back there" and just "run the offense," everything would be great.

What he failed to appreciate was that without McNabb's dancing skills, you can take your offense and shove it up Casey RockBack's ass. It doesn't work without blocking.

Of course, I'm only guessing, based upon his set of three lies.

Somebody needs to show this freak that we KNOW he's lying and to cut it the F out!

Reid, tell him people think he's lying since he has come out with three stories. Ask him what does he say to the fans who can smell BS a mile a way.

And then, explain to him that this is not Denver F'king Colorado. We don't care that he won 2 SBs there with John F'king Elway. Anybody could do that. Explain to him that here, in D.C., his poo poo still smells bad and his BS smells even worse.

Thanks.

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 2, 2010 5:29 AM | Report abuse

We don't care that he won 2 SBs there with John F'king Elway. Anybody could do that.

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 2, 2010 5:29 AM


Right...which is why every other coach Elway had failed to do so.

I'm pissed about Shanahan too, but don't get ridiculous with revisionist history.

And Shanahan doesn't owe us an explanation, as much as we'd all like one. All he owes us is an honest effort at turning around the fortunes of the Redskins and I don't care HOW he does it so long as he does it.

So if we go into next year with another QB not named McNabb, I'm fine with it...so long as that QB gets the job done and wins us games in the process. I don't give a sh*t about the scheme if we're winning. Hopefully, Shanahan feels the same way.

Although this brouhaha is making me question that...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 2, 2010 5:39 AM | Report abuse

at the first sign of trouble or the first time McNabb skips a pass at his feet, Randy heads for the podium to give verbal fellatio to Belichick and the Pats

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 2, 2010 5:29 AM

Brownwood, I really like you, man. Sometimes I feel it's just you and me, man. Honestly.

But not in THAT kinda way. In a normal way.

I was ready to jump on the Randy Wagon until I watched his "press conference." The guy is a beast downfield. I love that about him.

But the press conference was so disturbing... Pass.

Randy is obviously still on the rebound. I don't think Childress is that crazy after all.

And Brownwood... Is it just me, or is Shanahan lying an awful lot already? Seems he needs his mouth washed out with soap.

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 2, 2010 5:45 AM | Report abuse

Elway had Dan "What Day Is It?" Reeves before Shanahan!!

I take back what I said.

It's me against the world.

Shanahan's a maniac. Period. Even crazy ass Gruden is looking good right about now!

At least we don't have Wade Phillips poutin' ass. I might just start watching the Cowboys so I can enjoy my Sundays again.

Shanny is F'king things up. If I was McNabb, I'd fake an injury so quick. "You want Rexy? You got him. My hammies are acting up, Coach"

Maybe TanMan and Son would appreciate his "stance" a little more after watching their "system" get tossed on it's head about 12 times with 11 fumbles.

These ego maniacs really think their scheme is why they win games! It's incredible. Elway? Scheme? Are you crazy?!

Talent, oh Tan Ones!

The thing you never had? That's what wins games.

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 2, 2010 5:51 AM | Report abuse

PS - Elway went to three Super Bowls BEFORE Shanahan came in and decided a run game might help.

THREE!

Brownwood, you could have taken Elway to a Super Bowl, man.

John Freaking Elway. Are you kidding? Three! Before "The Self Announced Genius" showed up.

That's gotta mean something.

Posted by: Thinker_ | November 2, 2010 5:56 AM | Report abuse

Thinker, ALL good coaches lie. The only possible exception is Tony Dungy. The rest do what they have to to get the job done. So I don't hate on Shanahan for lying...I hate on him for being so damn bad at it.

If you're gonna pull a boneheaded move like benching McNabb, you don't show your face at the podium until you've got a good lie already lined up. And if he did that and that "Rex gives us the best chance" crap was all he could come up with, then this ain't the guy we thought he was.

I'm starting to think that Shanahan's two SB rings are more of a liability than help. Seems like he thinks he can do whatever he wants and that his sh*t don't stink because of those rings and now lacks the hunger or consistency that guys like Mike Tomlin and John Harbaugh have.

I know it's still early and there's still time to turn things around, but I'm thinking this franchise might be better off not going the "proven coach" route and getting a younger, hungry coach looking to establish himself rather than the established coach looking to line his pockets or set his kid up with a HC job. The more I think about it, the more I want a guy like Russ Grimm here...

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 2, 2010 6:06 AM | Report abuse

The play this week will go down in infamy and will commonly be known as the "Irish Car Bomb":

"QB Sub - Sack - Fumble - TD - Lose game"

The Irish Car Bomb, you heard it here first!

Posted by: 20yrskinfan | November 2, 2010 7:38 AM | Report abuse

A big name player cast off by 2 teams in the past month. This has all the makings of a signature Snyder move. Expect Moss to be on the roster by sundown tomorrow.

Posted by: randysbailin | November 2, 2010 8:33 AM | Report abuse

Why is everyone saying, "We don't need a receiver, we need O-line help?" Yes, we need O-linemen more than a wide receiver but the fact is there is no guard and/or center with freakish ability about to become available. But there is a wide receiver that meets that criteria. So should we not try to get him just because we need O-line more? That reasoning makes no sense.

Posted by: largetony86 | November 2, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, right! He benches McNabb, because he's not happy with tempo in practice, but he'll look at a receiver who is reknowned for loafing it in games. Sounds like a Shanahan guy all of the way.

Posted by: Redskinrex | November 2, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

wow is this team falling fast. close to being a contender for the division, now there's no hope. sign randy moss? why? he didn't work in new england this year and didn't work in minnesota. what possible reason is there to even hint that he would work here? so much for this season, the hope now is to get a high level pick so the snyde can waste it away on another disappointment.

Posted by: elm05 | November 2, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

A big name player cast off by 2 teams in the past month. This has all the makings of a signature Snyder move. Expect Moss to be on the roster by sundown tomorrow.

Posted by: randysbailin | November 2, 2010 8:33 AM | Report abuse

My thoughts, exactly, sir!!!

If the Skins sign Randy Moss, it will raise the question of whether Shanahan and Allen truly have autonomous control of personnel management.

The Skins offensive line isn't going to allow Moss enough time to get open, anyway.

Posted by: jboogie1 | November 2, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

A big name player cast off by 2 teams in the past month. This has all the makings of a signature Snyder move. Expect Moss to be on the roster by sundown tomorrow.

Posted by: randysbailin | November 2, 2010 8:33 AM | Report abuse

My thoughts, exactly, sir!!!

If the Skins sign Randy Moss, it will raise the question of whether Shanahan and Allen truly have autonomous control of personnel management.

The Skins offensive line isn't going to allow Moss enough time to get open, anyway.

Posted by: jboogie1 | November 2, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

it is like this..hamm-o-KLAN fearless leader of the imperial wizards(or lizards)of the... had 3 chances to upgrade WR position with s. holmes, t. owens, and tj houzmazadeh this goat did not bring any of them in said he was satisfied with galloway and r. williams cut d. thomas then we find out that he did not like thomas going to salon's or making videos e. williams was with thomas at the salon(I saw the pictures on nfl.com) he was also cut but the leader has the weakist interior line that I have ever witnessed (center and left guard) won't adjust scheme to talent that he has (only haslett was smart enough to do that to some degree) has his son running offensive a dude that has won nothing does not appear to be adequate at play calling and seems to want mcnabb to be a stiff non mobile so-called white qb(like this schaub character) again instead of adjusting to what you have. keep drinking the kool-aid.

Posted by: wathu19 | November 2, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

OKAY EVERYBODY STOP!!!

First, why in the hell would Moss want to come to Washington anyway for what?
Second, he is not in any bad financial desperation, he loves football and no way he will go to the Redskins, trust me I know him personally, so let that go please. Continue with your Redskin dialogue please... Sorry to intervene

Posted by: StandingSoldier | November 2, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

As for now, the Redskins need to cut Joey Galloway and add Randy Moss. What do they have to loss? We got McNabb, now if we have Randy Moss, he'll have that big target he needs to get the ball downfield. With him, the Redskins can get back to the 80's Redskin's Football of pounding the ball, and play action. Whether we got Portis or Torrain back there, it would not matter, the safeties would cover Moss and Moss, and open up the running game. McNabb needs that big target and if we don't have to give up a draft pick, lets get him for 2010, only.

Posted by: roallenc | November 2, 2010 12:31 PM | Report abuse

so StandingSoldier -- are you for real? You are friends w randy? Pls consult w him and advise on the following:

1--does he know his ranting press conf after game sunday further enforced his image as highly immature and not really concerned about his current team? His mannerisms, language, body language, etc--very surly-I-know-everything-teenager-esq........

2--why have 4 different coaching staffs felt the need to purge him from the team w little-to-ZERO compensation? is it all them or is it possible he has areas needing maturation and reformation--and is he man enough to admit it and do it?

3--why would a team just now starting out and trying to get players to commit themselves 150% to the program for the sake of the team dare risk diluting these efforts by bringing Moss in? Make no mistake--the whole Mcnabb hubbub is about the same thing: play within our program, practice hard, be focused and open to improvement or pls step aside. Look at Haneworth's last 2 games.......working hard, shutting up, getting better

4--ask randy to provide us tangible reasons why he'd be good for the 'skins now, and the enxt few years--note, we already know he is fast and can outjump most db's and make freakishly amazing catches when he is in position. Looking for more. FOr example, will he "only play when he wants to" or stop going all out on patterns?

pls advise--we look frwd to it! If it can be worked out we'd love it, but alas, many of us are quite dubious

Posted by: tabtool | November 2, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Maybe we should bring back Sherman Williams to help with the play calling?

Posted by: edvar | November 1, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

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Kinda kills your point when you don't even know who you're talking about.. SHERMAN LEWIS.

Posted by: skins91r | November 1, 2010 8:28 PM


Perfect example of why bloggers should always be anonymous. Most of them are stupid and this is their only forum to express their stupidity. Do you idiots just surf the internet blogs looking to try out dumb negative things to say? Give a person a mask to hide behind and they will show you how big of an idiot they can be.

Posted by: ged0386 | November 2, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

A big name player cast off by 2 teams in the past month. This has all the makings of a signature Snyder move. Expect Moss to be on the roster by sundown tomorrow.

Posted by: randysbailin | November 2, 2010 8:33 AM | Report abuse

My thoughts, exactly, sir!!!

If the Skins sign Randy Moss, it will raise the question of whether Shanahan and Allen truly have autonomous control of personnel management.

The Skins offensive line isn't going to allow Moss enough time to get open, anyway.

Posted by: jboogie1 | November 2, 2010 11:45 A


Skins fans, or those who claim to be are a bunch of fickle, cynical know it all's who could not organize a basic drill on a pee wee league team but think because they can type an opinion on a keyboard and submit a blog that they actually are smarter than the guys who have been doing this for years. At the same time would be insulted if Mike Shanahan, Kyle Shanahan or Dan Snyder every tried to tell them how to do their jobs even if they were delivering pizzas.

Posted by: ged0386 | November 2, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

I say we sign Jamarcus Russell and play him at Offensive Tackle or Guard, he couldn't do much worse.

Posted by: mv0237 | November 3, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

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