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Will Bush (Or Someone Else) Burn the Redskins?

It's video time -- see below for Jason Reid talking about the Saints and Reggie Bush.

Speaking of Reggie and the New Orleans offense, we have two questions for you this afternoon:

By Jon DeNunzio  |  September 12, 2008; 12:36 PM ET
 
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That is the sad state of polly ticks in our country... whatever suits the person at that time will become the 'truth'...thats why i voting based upon hottness. Ms Palin or Ms Obama.... this must be the reason Hillary didnt win the nomination ;)

Posted by: Zebra | September 12, 2008 12:38 PM

Posted by: Zebra | September 12, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

crotchless edible thongs!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Oooohh, I guess I should have said

PRIMERO!!

Posted by: Zebra | September 12, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

The Skins have got to score 24pts in order to win.

Posted by: joeblazin | September 12, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

McPalin?

Posted by: stumped | September 12, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

psp,

Maybe ur right about the improving part...

But as for his stats, they don't accurately reflect his performance. He couldn't hit open receivers, that in turn led to failed drives.
His "success" last week was the result of good field position off a special teams play.

I was drunk, but seems like remember the skins having Moss run a drag route from right to left, the very play before the TD drag route from L to R. If I'm wrong, burn me. But that to me says that Cambell has a lllooooooooooonnnnnggggggg way to go before he improves in this offense. They just flipped the play and hoped the D played the same D.

And Zorn does need some time to adjust to new responsibilities like playcalling, clock management, etc. He's had 6 games to practice. He needs to turn the corner pretty damn soon.

Posted by: gimmydatpot | September 12, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

blaz,
23 won't do?

Posted by: stumped | September 12, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Oooohh, I guess I should have said

PRIMERO!!

Posted by: Zebra | September 12, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Good article on Portis,

Question: Really what has Portis done for us besides take up touches on the football? For all the mouth, I have not seen any game breaking ability in 4 years. O-line or no-online. He is like the saying the checks in the mail. I keep on waiting for pro-bowl form and it has never come.

Posted by: ynotcaruso | September 12, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Zeke is about to become older and wiser. Well, mostly just older ... feel free to post your best wishes.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | September 12, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

I was drunk, but seems like remember the skins having Moss run a drag route from right to left, the very play before the TD drag route from L to R. If I'm wrong, burn me. But that to me says that Cambell has a lllooooooooooonnnnnggggggg way to go before he improves in this offense. They just flipped the play and hoped the D played the same D.

And Zorn does need some time to adjust to new responsibilities like playcalling, clock management, etc. He's had 6 games to practice. He needs to turn the corner pretty damn soon.

Posted by: gimmydatpot | September 12, 2008 12:42 PM

gimmy, maybe thats the point.. stop being real complicated and just run stuff we know JC and JZ can call and execute. Wait til the D stops you then open it up a little more.

The Gmen forced us into some stuff, but from what I could see, we shot ourselves in the foot with more than vanilla play calls.

Having cooley crack back on Kiwanuka was just plain dumb...

Posted by: Zebra | September 12, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Why don't you find me an O-line? I am the best pass blocker we have. How about that fool?

Posted by: Clinton Portis | September 12, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Happy day al..

Posted by: Greg | September 12, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

happy birthday dear HAMSTER!, here's to another keyboard slammin year.

Posted by: stumped | September 12, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

What was that site from last year where the guys broke down every play and every player etc...

Posted by: Zebra | September 12, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Marty had this team going in the right direction at 8-8. And got fired for Spurrier, an 'out of the box' hire. Gibbs had this team going in the right direction at 9-7 when he left. In his place, Snyder hired Zorn, an 'out of the box' hire.

I think a lot of the angst here is about the possibility that Zorn is another Spurrier. Game 1 is a slim sample, but it had that 'Spurrier' feel to it.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | September 12, 2008 12:40 PM

Al,

Disagree whith you again, all the players you guys are complaining about were left here by Gibbs, old O-Line Gibbs old D-Line Gibbs, small wideouts Gibbs, Terrible QB according to most Gibbs, shall I go on.

And to say Zorn is like Spurrier is showing your hater status the guy has coached one real game atleast wait until the end of the year to say that, JC was only sacked once how many times was Spurrier QB sacked in his first game.

Posted by: Flounder | September 12, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Spurrier's offensive line troubles resulted in quarterback Patrick Ramsey being one of the most sacked and hurried quarterbacks in the league. Spurrier would often bench him mid-game during a bad performance in favor of Danny Wuerffel or Shane Matthews, who both played under Spurrier at Florida. Both combined for 14 touchdowns and 12 interceptions in 15 games played. (TD/INT Wuerffel 3-6 with 7 games, Matthews 11-6 with 8 games).

Does not sound like Zorn to me.

Posted by: Flounder | September 12, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

zeb, was it postgameheroes, or something like that?

Posted by: Greg | September 12, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Strong words calling some one a fool Clinton. Want to blame the o-line that is fine. Real team mates don't point the finger. Suck it up and make plays. It is easier to point the finger at others rather than yourself. If it was not for his blocking may be he would have been replaced by now.

Posted by: ynotcaruso | September 12, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Spurrier was 7-9 his first year I think Zorn will past that.

Posted by: Flounder | September 12, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, Portis is another over rated player. All he has done is been average....a lot. I would throw my body around like him too, cuz i would feel guilty as F if I was him. In Denver he averaged what?...like 5.5 a carry? Here 4.3 has been the best year, with 3 sub 4.0 seasons.

We cant blame him though...the FO at the time failed to see that he was a SYSTEM player. I recall him not even having the 4.3 yds/carry season untill the team started using more zone blocking/stretch plays. Having to change your schemes to fit a player's strengths is a sign of bad FO scouting. Plain and simple.

Posted by: gimmydatpot | September 12, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

I was drunk, but seems like remember the skins having Moss run a drag route from right to left, the very play before the TD drag route from L to R. If I'm wrong, burn me. But that to me says that Cambell has a lllooooooooooonnnnnggggggg way to go before he improves in this offense. They just flipped the play and hoped the D played the same D.

And Zorn does need some time to adjust to new responsibilities like playcalling, clock management, etc. He's had 6 games to practice. He needs to turn the corner pretty damn soon.

Posted by: gimmydatpot | September 12, 2008 12:38 PM

That's my point. Most of the time Moss and Randle El were running these short slants or drag routes, and everybody blames JC for not stretching the field. Zorn needs to put Campbell in a position to make plays before Campbell can actually make them. That's why you heard Portis criticizing the passing game (not in today's article, but a different one), saying that from time to time Campbell should just essentially say "F the coaches on this play, I'm calling a go route."

I know Zorn is still learning, and I can only hope he adapts his gameplan and play-calling to what the game dictates. And I know Campbell still has a lot of room to improve on, but to me, it all starts with Zorn.

Posted by: psps23 | September 12, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Portis has done well here.

No, he hasn't busted off as many long runs as he did in two seasons with Denver, but then again this is the NFC East, not the AFC West.

The defenses in the NFC East play the run much better than the no-account Raiders, Chiefs and Chargers do.

(and before someone jumps up to defend the Chargers, keep in mind they let Adrian Peterson rip them for 296 yards and 3 TDs last season)

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | September 12, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

We cant blame him though...the FO at the time failed to see that he was a SYSTEM player. I recall him not even having the 4.3 yds/carry season untill the team started using more zone blocking/stretch plays. Having to change your schemes to fit a player's strengths is a sign of bad FO scouting. Plain and simple.

Posted by: gimmydatpot | September 12, 2008 12:53 PM

You are correct sir, I still say that was the move Gibbs made that was very troubling and led to all the other bad choices he made as a GM.

Posted by: Flounder | September 12, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

DOC is talking about CP right now, he says he loves how hard CP plays but still thinks is practice habbits and offseason work is terrible and said if he did these things he would even be better.

Posted by: Flounder | September 12, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Hey Skinz
Billick is not in Ashburn because Danny got an itch.

He did the Saints game last week, so Fox just figured put him w/ the Saints again.
It's his first year doing this, and it will help him this week, having done the Saints last week.

That's all it is, friend.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 12, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

That was it, thanks greg

Posted by: Zebra | September 12, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Zebra | September 12, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Portis will probably end up as the franchise's all-time leading rusher.

He was far from a mistake.

Posted by: psps23 | September 12, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Strong words calling some one a fool Clinton. Want to blame the o-line that is fine. Real team mates don't point the finger. Suck it up and make plays. It is easier to point the finger at others rather than yourself. If it was not for his blocking may be he would have been replaced by now.

Posted by: ynotcaruso | September 12, 2008 12:52 PM

I see so I can't blame others for the running game but you can blame me? Got it thanks.

Posted by: You know I'm not really Clinton Portis right? | September 12, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Psp,

I'll be the first to say I think Zorn is gonna be a good coach for us, but I want to win now. And I think JC is like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. I know it's gonna take time, but how much time?

Mr. Redskins,

Was Portis around in Denver b4 the divisional restructuring? If so that gives him at least 1 season against 4 div. teams. Thats only half the season. The Chargers still had a good defense while he was in Denver, and one game doesnt make ur season...plus...it's Adrian Fing Peterson! But if he was there after the NFL went to 8 dvisions, thats only 6 division games. Face it, he played good for them cuz he was a system player. At the time, Denver kept getting burned in the secondary, so MS traded away a problem RB who was replaceable for the best CB in the last decade.


Posted by: gimmydatpot | September 12, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Portis will probably end up as the franchise's all-time leading rusher.

He was far from a mistake.

Posted by: psps23 | September 12, 2008 1:04 PM

PSP,

He was a mistake given what we gave up for him.

Posted by: Flounder | September 12, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Ray,

I figured as much I always just like the confirmation.

Posted by: Skinz | September 12, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

PSP,

Running backs in this league can be found anywhere,

Shut down CB can not.

Posted by: Flounder | September 12, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Dont miss the link to the defensive breakdown on the left.

I love these guys. I wish i had the time to sit down and break down film. Hopefully our team saw it the same way. how many good plays were killed by penalties?

Posted by: Zebra | September 12, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

The callers on DOC's show are ripping Portis for that colum this morning.

Posted by: Flounder | September 12, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

He was a mistake given what we gave up for him.

Posted by: Flounder | September 12, 2008 1:07 PM

here we go again. champ wanted out, wasn't going to sign on to stay here. he was gone G O N E! yes, they gave up 2nd round pick as well which was dumb, but that was when we gave up picks like Palin's daughter gives up her stuff.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

ugh, reading that was almost as bad as re-watching the game. The only good part was:

Holy crap Portis just KILLED Kiwanuka

Other than that, don't bother....

Posted by: Greg | September 12, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Portis will probably end up as the franchise's all-time leading rusher.

He was far from a mistake.

Posted by: psps23 | September 12, 2008 1:04 PM

Doubt he can last long enuf after 4+ seasons of 325+ carries a season....hes a little guy. Granted, a tough-a@! little guy who selfishly (stupidly) throws his body around to make a good block.
I mean, the year he F'd up his shoulder chasing down a Def. player with the ball was retarded. I dont give a SJK if you play 100 miles an hour if ur just gonna run str8 into a brick wall! Ur not gonna do us any good on the bench.

Posted by: gimmydatpot | September 12, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

He was a mistake given what we gave up for him.

Posted by: Flounder | September 12, 2008 1:07 PM

here we go again. champ wanted out, wasn't going to sign on to stay here. he was gone G O N E! yes, they gave up 2nd round pick as well which was dumb, but that was when we gave up picks like Palin's daughter gives up her stuff.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 1:11 PM

Lots of players want out, you tell him to bad and go play, and if he ever wants another contract from us or another team he will play hard trust me.

Gibbs could have easly talked him into staying.

Posted by: Flounder | September 12, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

I'm voting for Obama.

Posted by: C. Portis | September 12, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

...plus...it's Adrian Fing Peterson!

Posted by: gimmydatpot | September 12, 2008 1:06 PM
_____________________________

Yeah? What did "Adrian Fing Peterson" do against the Redskins last season?

9 carries, 27 yards.

Against the Cowboys?

12 carries, 63 yards.

Against the Giants?

He didn't play.

But against the Chargers, he rushed 30 times for 296 yards and 3 TDs.

Sorry, the run D among NFC East teams is superior to that of the AFC West.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | September 12, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

PSP,

He was a mistake given what we gave up for him.

Posted by: Flounder | September 12, 2008 1:07 PM

Did Denver get the best of the deal? Absolutely. Did we give up too much? I don't think so.

Bailey was already on his way out. We made that decision before Gibbs came by using all our cap space to give Lavar the massive contract extension. Denver definitely got the best of the deal, but we got great value in return for someone that was not a part of our long-term future. The second round pick is hit or miss, and we got a sure thing.

If we had to do it all over again, I'd probably lessen the draft pick. But if we were forced to either say yes or no to that exact deal, I'd say yes in a heartbeat.

Posted by: psps23 | September 12, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: dlhaze | September 12, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Does anybody actually watch these video things? I wish they'd just write down what they see at practice since, you know, they're writers... who work for a newspaper.

Posted by: Joe in Raleigh | September 12, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse


Portis will probably end up as the franchise's all-time leading rusher.

He was far from a mistake.

Posted by: psps23 | September 12, 2008 1:04 PM

I think you may be right on this, he may even end up being one of the NFL's top RB's of all time. I posted this in the past. He is less than 1700 yards from being in the top 25 RB's in terms of yards gained. If he averages 85 yards a game this season and next season he should break 10,000 yards overall and would still be under 30.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 12, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Good comment from the author on the comment section...

"Our D gave up only 16 points and they were on the field a whole lot. A lot of credit goes to Landry for protecting against the big play, Doughty for playing way better than he did in pre-season, and our front 7 for coming through in the red zone when called upon. This was a critical post, but some of what they did are correctable mistakes and overall I think we should be excited about our defense…especially against less physical offensive lines like the Saints."

Posted by: Zebra | September 12, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs could have easly talked him into staying.

Posted by: Flounder | September 12, 2008 1:13 PM

How so? He was a FA following that year, and was adamant that he wanted to be the highest paid CB in the league (one of the highest paid positions overall). We didn't have the room possible to sign him.

Posted by: psps23 | September 12, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

In order to accept the "trading for Portis was a mistake" meme, you must not believe that Champ was unhappy and unlikely to sign an extension or new deal with the Skins at the end of his rookie contract. And I think a few people have noted up here, quite convincingly, that such was the case with Champ.

I think if you set aside the draft pick that we stupidly threw in, you gotta admit getting Portis for Champ was better than getting nothing for Champ. Right?

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Heh. Does this count as ironic?

http://www.nbc10.com/news/17456070/detail.html?dl=mainclick

Posted by: dlhaze | September 12, 2008 1:17 PM

Not so much Ironic.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 12, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

"Does anybody actually watch these video things? I wish they'd just write down what they see at practice since, you know, they're writers... who work for a newspaper.

Posted by: Joe in Raleigh | September 12, 2008 1:17 PM "


Never watched one of 'em

Posted by: The Truth | September 12, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Zeb, was that from post game heroes?

I didn't see that.

Posted by: Greg | September 12, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

DL;

i didnt know you could have a 'broken knee'... you know, since techncially the knee is an area comprised of the knee cap, ligaments and caritlage...

Posted by: Zebra | September 12, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if Portis can change his first name like Chad J changed his last. With a name like Clinton, he'll never be good. And Portis' change would not affect his jersey so the league and Reebok would not have a problem with it.

If I had to wear Obama on my jersey, I'd just retire from the league and hope to get into some witness protection program.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Since the deal was made, Denver has had two playoff appearances, and the Redskins have had two playoff appearances.

So I don't see how that equates to Denver "getting the best of the deal."

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | September 12, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Heh. Does this count as ironic?

http://www.nbc10.com/news/17456070/detail.html?dl=mainclick

Posted by: dlhaze | September 12, 2008 1:17 PM

I think it's Ironic. Like a traffic jam when yo uare already late.

Posted by: Alanis Morrisette | September 12, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, comments of the defensive breakdown (bottom of the links on the left of the page i sent)

i am going back to check outany comments on the O.

Dagger and Dillweed are their handles.

Posted by: Zebra | September 12, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Shut-down corners don't carry their team into the playoffs. A true shutdown cb is rarer then ever and even then good offenses have solid 2nd and 3rd options inviting Bailey to lock in man coverage.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 12, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

A no smo o ooooking sign on your cigarette plate.

Posted by: Alanis Morrisette | September 12, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Doubt he can last long enuf after 4+ seasons of 325+ carries a season....hes a little guy. Granted, a tough-a@! little guy who selfishly (stupidly) throws his body around to make a good block.

Posted by: gimmydatpot | September 12, 2008 1:12 PM

Shouldn't that be "selflessly" instead of "selfishly"? He doesn't need 4+ seasons to break Riggins' mark. He needs 2-3 good ones (I believe he's around 3,000 yards away right now). He'll be 29 at the start of his 3rd season from now. As long as he stays relatively healthy (knock on wood), he'll break the mark.

Posted by: psps23 | September 12, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Bangkokben, you're exactly right.

The rules have been so skewed in favor of WRs that there are no more "shut-down corners."

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | September 12, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

The lack of running game is combination of both line and the running back as well as the scheme. I don't like the fact that Portis is never accountable for his poor play. The line talks about playing better, the coaches talk about scheming better, but Portis never comes out and says he has to run better, make holes or find holes. That is why I'm down on Portis. No really I thought you were Clinton Portis. You really got one over on me buddy.

Posted by: ynotcaruso | September 12, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

We're not talking about Champ being a shutdown corner again are we?

That horse is LONG since dead.....I used to own his @ss whenever we played against you guys. Don't you remember his, 'help me I just fell down' routine when I burned him?

Posted by: Amani Toomer | September 12, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Jeez, I gotta keep up... 0 TCCLs to me for not being able to keep up with the conversation on these ratatat threads the past few days...

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Bailey's contract would have ended after the 04 season, we signed some of the biggest FA contracts in history, in that offseason, they would have had plenty of money to sign bailey and maybe would have not made all the other mistakes they made.

Posted by: Flounder | September 12, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

In order to accept the "trading for Portis was a mistake" meme, you must not believe that Champ was unhappy and unlikely to sign an extension or new deal with the Skins at the end of his rookie contract.

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 12, 2008 1:20 PM

And, the other part of it was that the Redskins didn't have enough money to pay the big bucks both to Champ and to LaVar. They went with LaVar.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 12, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully Blache queued up the video from the Saints first few games last year when Brees stunk up the joint. If we can get some knowledge about how to make that happen again we'll be in good shape.

Bush is gonna get some nice runs/catches in but shadowing him with Landry might stop the home run potential. And a couple of big hits from Landry might keep Reggie from going off.

Deuce can't possibly be 100% after knee surgery, right? Clog the LOS and make him bounce it outside where he won't have the speed to turn the corner.

Springs and Smoot can take care of Patten and whoever the other WR is. I'm not worried about the WRs unless Brees has all day to throw.

Someone needs to account for Shockey because if we're gonna get beat, it's gonna be because of the Ex-Jint. If Landry is covering RB then it's Doughty. I think Shockey is the X-factor this week, not Bush. Bush will be the decoy to take Landry away and Doughty will have to step up and stop the blond redneck.

Posted by: [cc] | September 12, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Riggo's record is 7472 yards for the skins.
Portis is at: 4700 yards, means he needs 2772 yards to get to Riggo

If he averages 1285 yards a season (his average) he will hit it in 3 years, just around the time he turns 30 years old.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 12, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Watch me make a big cheerio with my lips...gaze at you with big lost eyes!

Gotta run: cash my payroll check from Snyder FreeMoney, LLC.

Saints 42 Redskins 10

Posted by: Jason Campbell | September 12, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

And, the other part of it was that the Redskins didn't have enough money to pay the big bucks both to Champ and to LaVar. They went with LaVar.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 12, 2008 1:28 PM

That did not work out to well either.

Posted by: Flounder | September 12, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

People are so wrong on this blog.


Someone said Portis is selfish because he blocks hard and doesn't give up on plays. He wasn't selfish when he went after the guy in preseason and got injured, he was stupid, though. But selfish? No.


Either a guy doesn't work hard enough or he works too hard, yall seriously complain about EVERYTHING. At least think before you speak (type).

Posted by: The Truth | September 12, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if Portis can change his first name like Chad J changed his last. With a name like Clinton, he'll never be good. And Portis' change would not affect his jersey so the league and Reebok would not have a problem with it.

If I had to wear Obama on my jersey, I'd just retire from the league and hope to get into some witness protection program.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 1:23 PM

=========

It's too bad your mom didn't change her name to "I Should've Had An Abortion."

Posted by: | September 12, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Too much negativity. I'm saying let by a couple clutch third down catches by Kelly and runs by Campbell to keep the drives alive and allows the offense to get in stride.

Skins roll 24-10.

Posted by: Skinz | September 12, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

let/led

Posted by: Skinz | September 12, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Redskins 31, Saints 20.... and by this time next week, everyone will be talking about how great Zorn's WCO is working out.

The great thing about the NFL is that one week can change everything from bad to good - or vice-versa.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | September 12, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Funny you say that.....I saw a t-shirt today for you that said, "My mom and dad went to the abortion clinic, and all I got was this lousy lobotomy!"

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who thinks Portis is selfish doesn't know football. The dude is a beast. Does whatever you ask him to do. Destroys anyone who comes in the backfield. And in all honesty, the line doesn't really give him that many holes to run through so his statements are warranted. Imagine if we had a system where he could get 5, 6, 7 yards a touch (consistently). If Soup can get some good games in, we might have it already.

Posted by: [cc] | September 12, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

That did not work out to well either.

Posted by: Flounder | September 12, 2008 1:31 PM

Yeah, Flounder, your 20-20 hindsight is right on! Amazing! What a guy! And what do you see in the past for Patrick Ramsey? That also "did not work out to well."

At the time LaVar was "the face of the Redskins" and had already gone to a Pro Bowl. I suppose you, though, expected that he would blow out his knee?

Posted by: d-bag | September 12, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Marty had this team going in the right direction at 8-8. And got fired for Spurrier, an 'out of the box' hire. Gibbs had this team going in the right direction at 9-7 when he left. In his place, Snyder hired Zorn, an 'out of the box' hire.

I think a lot of the angst here is about the possibility that Zorn is another Spurrier. Game 1 is a slim sample, but it had that 'Spurrier' feel to it.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | September 12, 2008 12:40 PM

Al,

Disagree whith you again, all the players you guys are complaining about were left here by Gibbs, old O-Line Gibbs old D-Line Gibbs, small wideouts Gibbs, Terrible QB according to most Gibbs, shall I go on.

And to say Zorn is like Spurrier is showing your hater status the guy has coached one real game atleast wait until the end of the year to say that, JC was only sacked once how many times was Spurrier QB sacked in his first game.

Posted by: Flounder | September 12, 2008 12:50 PM

Reread it Flounder ... I didn't go 'hater'. I said 1 game was a 'slim sample' and my goodness, no analogy is ever perfect. If Spurrier was anything, it was disorganized and lacking in intensity. Game 1 of the Zorn era was similar. Both Zorn and Spurrier took over teams that were moving in the right direction.

So is some of the angst on this board due to the potential for history to repeat itself? I said its possible.

If nothing else, this should be help you with your reading comprehension. Glad to have helped.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | September 12, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Uh, isn't this REDSKINS insider? Why would I want to vote on which Saint will "burn" the Redskins?

Posted by: narf | September 12, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Uh, isn't this REDSKINS insider? Why would I want to vote on which Saint will "burn" the Redskins?

Posted by: narf | September 12, 2008 1:41 PM

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It's because JLC hates the Redskins with every single bone in his body. JLC just hates the Redskins and wants to see them go 0-16 so he can rip Synder, Vinny, the organization, etc.

Gosh I hate this liberal rag of a blog and newspaper.

Posted by: Reality | September 12, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Reread it Flounder ... I didn't go 'hater'. I said 1 game was a 'slim sample' and my goodness, no analogy is ever perfect. If Spurrier was anything, it was disorganized and lacking in intensity. Game 1 of the Zorn era was similar. Both Zorn and Spurrier took over teams that were moving in the right direction.

So is some of the angst on this board due to the potential for history to repeat itself? I said its possible.

If nothing else, this should be help you with your reading comprehension. Glad to have helped.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | September 12, 2008 1:41 PM

You do not have to go hater you are always a hater,

You said Gibbs left this team going in the right direction and I am saying he did not.

Posted by: Flounder | September 12, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Only a fool would think the Post is liberal

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Only a fool would think the Post is liberal

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 1:45 PM

To only "think" a known fact is just plain negligent.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Jasno posts some of this stuff just to get the crybabies riled up. It apparently works.

Posted by: dlhaze | September 12, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Flounder | September 12, 2008 1:31 PM

Yeah, Flounder, your 20-20 hindsight is right on! Amazing! What a guy! And what do you see in the past for Patrick Ramsey? That also "did not work out to well."

At the time LaVar was "the face of the Redskins" and had already gone to a Pro Bowl. I suppose you, though, expected that he would blow out his knee?

Posted by: d-bag | September 12, 2008 1:39 PM

I did not say that Lavar should not have gotten paid.

But if he is the face of your franshise and you just gave him all that money why then do you let your over egoed DC bench him. Lavar had issues no doubt but the guy made plays, you guys are saying Zorn should change his system to the players maybe GG should have changed a little for Lavar.

Posted by: Flounder | September 12, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

You do not have to go hater you are always a hater,

You said Gibbs left this team going in the right direction and I am saying he did not.
Posted by: Flounder | September 12, 2008 1:45 PM

So how can I always be a hater if I felt this team was going in the right direction last year?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

redskins Blog Info:

Other injury updates from Coach Zorn: Malcolm Kelly is “on his way,” but Zorn seemed skeptical that he would actually get on the field this week (although he noted that he would certainly like to keep five receivers active). He fully expects Chris Cooley to play, and seemed to doubt that Khary Campbell would be available. Kareem Moore was back at practice today.


Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 12, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

No, I post this stuff because in case you're blind, I hate this team, and use every opportunity I have to shiv them.....

Posted by: Jla | September 12, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

You said Gibbs left this team going in the right direction and I am saying he did not.

Posted by: Flounder | September 12, 2008 1:45 PM

Gibbs definitely left this organization headed in the right direction. He took a a largely untalented team with a recent history of losing, and turned them into a talented team and perennial playoff contender. He was also the guy that left all the draft picks Vinny played around with this offseason (and almost gave away for CJ).

Gibbs had this team in the right direction. It just happens to be in a different direction than Vinny wants to head.

Posted by: psps23 | September 12, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

How come whenever JLC is on ESPN, it's always by phone?

Is he camera-shy?

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | September 12, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Lavar had issues no doubt but the guy made plays, you guys are saying Zorn should change his system to the players maybe GG should have changed a little for Lavar.

Posted by: Flounder | September 12, 2008 1:50 PM

He did. That's why our defense helped carry us to the playoffs in '05, with Lavar playing under control. Then he messed up his knee and had problems with surgery. Nothing anybody can do about that (other than the medical staff).

Posted by: psps23 | September 12, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

wonder if Portis can change his first name like Chad J changed his last. With a name like Clinton, he'll never be good. And Portis' change would not affect his jersey so the league and Reebok would not have a problem with it.

If I had to wear Obama on my jersey, I'd just retire from the league and hope to get into some witness protection program.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 1:23 PM

This guy badly wants you to believe in what his daddy forced upon him as a young boy.


Posted by: Earl Sugarloaf III posting as Johnny Fatsack | September 12, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Beepers....

Posted by: Zebra | September 12, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

My dad was right. Everyone should know the truth.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

How about they have a poll:

Do you watch Jason Reid on "Unrestricted"

Yes ?

No ?

How about that?

Posted by: joeblazin | September 12, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

If we lose we can blame BUSH....

Posted by: JBo | September 12, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

why not...he's been erroneously blamed for everything else

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Is Duece hurt?
If not, he'll have over 100 yards combined as will Bush.

The Danoskins best hope is to pray that Ike (a republican hurricane, and thus totally out of touch - gets lost trying to find Dallas). And comes to Jack Kent Cooke Stadium in the slum-pit of the DC area, beautiful downtown Landover!

Posted by: bongaloid | September 12, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Bongaloid, they saints say McCallister is healthy, but Pierre Thomas looked real good last week against the Bucs. I'd expect him to be splitting the carries with Bush against us this week.

It's all for naught though. We're shutting them down.

Posted by: Rep. Heath Shuler (D-NC) | September 12, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Well, as bad as the 'Skins pass defense is, and believe me, IT'S BAD!!!!! the run defense is little better. If the Saints watch the film, they'll see that Blache expects his front four to win - their respective battles, straight up. No stunts, little packaging in the secondary before the snap too.

If Taylor plays again, they'll run at him, which ever side he's on. He's a (second round) liability! Wonderful dancer, however.

If the Saints don't score 30 points and have 150 yards rushing and at least that passing, I'll be very surprised.

And, as far as the folks expressing the desire to see and hear ONLY good things about a team, that frankly, has little good about it, look to other media sources - owned and operated by your favorite little midget-owner, GM, Dano Snyder.

He owns basically all the local sports media, with few exceptions. Thankfully, this is still one of them!

Posted by: bongaloid | September 12, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

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