Network News

X My Profile
View More Activity
On Twitter: RedskinsInsider and PostSports  |  Facebook  |  E-mail alerts: Redskins and Sports  |  RSS

A city feeds off Saints' magical run

Few NFL teams and their cities don't have a strong bond, but the relationship between New Orleans and the Saints is unique and particularly important as the city recovers from Hurricane Katrina, Mark Maske writes.

[Saints QB Drew] Brees was asked how the feeling inside the building Monday [after the team improved to 11-0 with a victory over New England] compared to the feeling on Sept. 25, 2006, when the Saints beat the Atlanta Falcons in their return to the Superdome. "That night will always be special, kind of unto itself," Brees said, but added: "I'd like to think every time we win it continues to bring our city together and unites us all. That's what's special about the bond between our team and our fans."
"There's always been a unique relationship between the fans of the New Orleans Saints and their team," [Saints GM Mickey] Loomis said before kickoff Monday. "There's a connection between the team and the city that's unusual. I suspect it's that way in Green Bay, but I've never lived there. It's unique to any place I've ever been. We come back from a regular-season game, and there will be thousands of people there at the airport waiting to greet us. It's one thing when that happens after an event like Katrina, but that's four years ago and it's still going on. And it happened before Katrina.
"When you go through an event like that and people feel beaten down, you're prideful when something like this happens. I'm prideful about this. I'm also prideful about Mardi Gras and Jazz Fest, what they're doing and how they're helping the city bounce back."


The view from New Orleans

This link is a little old but still valid: how is Saints Coach Sean Payton keeping his players motivated and focused? Jeff Duncan in the New Orleans Times-Picayune had the story. ... With injuries in the Saints' defensive backfield, two veterans -- Chris McAlister and Mike McKenzie -- have gotten new life, Nakia Hogan writes in the Times-Picayune.

By Cindy Boren  |  December 4, 2009; 10:00 AM ET
 
Save & Share:  Send E-mail   Facebook   Twitter   Digg   Yahoo Buzz   Del.icio.us   StumbleUpon   Technorati   Google Buzz   Previous: Zorn knows a hot QB when he sees one
Next: Jerry Gray remembers Brees in high school

Comments

"And if you watch the Oklahoma-Texas game last year, Orakpo owned Loadholt. Loadholt couldn't stop Orakpo to save his life."


And he couldn't stop Carlos Dunlap in the National Championship game either.

Thing is, taking a college left tackle and turning him into a pro right tackle is what makes sense.

That's what the vikes did.

Your left tackle has to be that elite guy who has the speed and flexibility to stop smaller safeties, linebackers, or defensive ends.

That's what Oher has, you could see it in him during his drills at the Senior Bowl.

Again: the skins FO determined they needed strong tackles more than pass rushing linebackers.

Which is why out of cluelessness they drafted a linebacker.

A now, folks ape the team should take two picks to take tackle prospects that weren't as good as the guys they say they don't want.

Sheeeeezzzzz.....

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 4, 2009 10:13 AM | Report abuse

That connection between team and city/fans existed in DC.

Despite the presence of other sports franchises, the Skins were always first, second and third when it came to ranking the top 3 sports teams in DC.

I recall taking the metro on Sundays down to the Stadium/Armory station and walking through the neighborhood to RFK.

It was like a train of pilgrims uniting on a journey. People of all socio-economic and racial backgrounds just enjoying the moment - eating food, playing instruments on the street corners, high-fiving random people on the sidewalks, the expectation that the team was going to play their hearts out and you'd be proud of them even in a loss.

Those were the days...

Posted by: p1funk | December 4, 2009 10:17 AM | Report abuse

If you've seen any of the recent Colts games (I've watched them all), you would know that they've played from behind and won miraculously. That can't pull off miracles forever, and the Titans are as hot as lava right now.

Compare that to our situation where the best passing offense is marching in, and our best corner probably won't even play. Plus the Saints defense is one of the best we've faced this year. I don't think it's impossible to beat the Saints on Sunday, but I do think it is overwhelmingly more likely that the Titans beat the Colts.

Posted by: REXskins | December 4, 2009 10:19 AM | Report abuse

If I'm playing GM, I'd trade Fred Davis or Chris Cooley for a couple 2nd rounders in 2010, since both have shown that they can be gamers. I'd do whatever I could to get 3 second rounders, and I'd go:

1st round- LT
2nd round- CB (Trevard Lindley could be a steal)
2nd round- RT (Ciron Black could be had)
2nd round- RG (dude from Idaho is incredible)

After all, remember that with drafting that the 2nd round statistically yields the most long-standing NFL-tenured players, I read last draft.

Posted by: TDawg1 | December 4, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

http://www.fanhouse.com/2009/12/03/several-ufl-players-inked-by-nfl-teams/

10 players from the UFL are signing with NFL teams, including some RBs and a OL to the Bills.

Shocker the Skins, despite being completely dinged up in those spots have yet to sign anyone from that league.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 4, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

This is the second post about "feeding" in as many days. A disturbing trend from Jason -the skins zombie- Reid.

Posted by: REXskins | December 4, 2009 10:28 AM | Report abuse

"That connection between team and city/fans existed in DC."

Move the team back to DC?

Or: use the Nationals' home stadium for a late season home game to show some 'love' to the city and the fans.

It would mend a lot of broken fences.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 4, 2009 10:28 AM | Report abuse

I hate headlines like this. They make you feel like an a-hole for not rooting for the Saints.

It might as well read "If you beat the Saints, you hate Jesus."

Posted by: Original_etrod | December 4, 2009 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Moe,
I like the idea but there would be 50,000 upset ticket holders if they were to play at Nats park.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 4, 2009 10:33 AM | Report abuse

I hate headlines like this. They make you feel like an a-hole for not rooting for the Saints.

It might as well read "If you beat the Saints, you hate Jesus."

Posted by: Original_etrod | December 4, 2009 10:30 AM


Haha, good one etrod. You're on a roll, dude.

I remember Brian Billick said something similar to that when the Ravens had to play the Saints the year NO got displaced by Hurricane Katrina.

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 4, 2009 10:39 AM | Report abuse

It might as well read "If you beat the Saints, you hate Jesus."


Lost in the analysis is how the saints went from the failures of Jim Haslett to the success of Sean Peyton.

Somebody in Nawlins is doing a good job with finding guys like the excellent center and guards who play for the saints.

Some crafty talent evaluator decided to let Duece McCalister go, bring in Pierre Thomas, find Devery Henderson, and give Marques Colston space to grow into a threat.

Some guy drafted Reggie Bush, knew his limitations, and doesn't hate on him in the media for them.

I want to read about that guy.

Then, I want that guy working in DC next Fall.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 4, 2009 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Remember that year that Daunte Culpepper and Drew Bress were both FAs?

Culpepper was the hotter commodity on the market and Miami and NO were the 2 teams in the market for QBs.

Culpepper was being heavily wooed by both teams and essentially had the right of first choice. He took the deal to go with Miami, which left NO going with Brees...

Now look at them...

Posted by: p1funk | December 4, 2009 10:53 AM | Report abuse

"find Devery Henderson, and give Marques Colston space to grow into a threat"


insert Marko for Devery, and DT/MK, for Colston, and hopefully that is what is happening here....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 4, 2009 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Moe,
I like the idea but there would be 50,000 upset ticket holders if they were to play at Nats park.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 4, 2009 10:33 AM | Report abuse


That's still better than the 90,000 upset ticket holders that sit in FedEx 8 times a year...

Posted by: p1funk | December 4, 2009 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Zorn should be fired after this game if he plays scared like he always does. We have nothing to lose.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/dec/04/turnoverbattle-key-for-redskins-to-beat-the-saints/

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 4, 2009 10:57 AM | Report abuse

4th, agreed, gotta play balls out, no fear, I mean, what is there to lose...stop punting, start going for it on 4th down...and for the love of God stop saying things about progress....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 4, 2009 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Here's a crazy idea that may work....

Zorn was hired as the Head Coach/OC/QB Coach.

We already fired him as an OC.

So...Can we fire him as a Head Coach and just relegate him to his last job as QB Coach?

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 4, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

I just was surfing the web and found this cool thing from USA today, shows where every player in the NFL went to College and High School in cool graph form

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/draft-history-graphic.htm

Posted by: alex35332 | December 4, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

and for the love of God stop saying things about progress....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 4, 2009 11:07 AM

Amen.

Progress only means something if you're actually working towards something. Not if you're playing out the string while waiting to be fired.

Truth is, Zorn should have been playing loose and free since the KC loss. No chance he'll be back, so if you go out you might as well do it your way.

Not like he'll get another HC job.

Of course, I said the same thing about Norv...

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 4, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

At least One person is picking the 'skins this Sunday....

"Will the redskins take advantage of all the potential favorables aligning Sunday? Depends. As an aviation buff I’ve read enough accident reports to know that in almost every significant crash, not just one thing goes wrong, but a number of things go wrong. The same is true in reverse. If everything goes right, Sunday, be ready for the shocker of the year."

To see how it will be done, link here:

http://www.nfldraftdog.com/nfl-team-columns/washington-redskins.html


Posted by: TheCork | December 4, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

No chance he'll be back, so if you go out you might as well do it your way.

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 4, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Maybe this is his way. which is why he's being fired.

Posted by: Original_etrod | December 4, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Here's a bit from a Yahoo Fantasy Sports article predicting that Brees will have a "bad" day against the Skins.

I disagree wholeheartedly with the assessment, but the best part of the bit is Carlos Rogers getting called out on the double-moves:


""We're extremely hesitant recommending arguably the most explosive passer in the NFC as a lame. Frankly, it's the equivalent of including Megan Fox on a list of Hollywood Medusas. But due the stringent rules of this little game, Brees is absurdly designated as such. There is an argument to be made. Washington boasts the best pass defense in the NFL. Over the past five weeks, the ‘Skins have allowed a mere 189.5 passing yards per game and five touchdowns to passers, equal to the fifth-fewest fantasy points allowed. Brees isn't immune from putrid performances. Earlier this season he logged back-to-back sub-200-yard, zero touchdown games against Buffalo and the New York Jets. If Washington doesn't bite on ball fakes and double moves (Carlos Rogers(notes)!) it could defy the odds. As Jim Zorn said earlier this week, the defense "absolutely must be disciplined" to prevent a blowout. You're still starting him, but a third dud effort isn't out of the question.""

Posted by: p1funk | December 4, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

p1, thats funny....what would be funnier would be how Los's agent is gonna try and get him a contract next year....

"no see, what the problem is is those dreaded double moves...my client can't do anything about em..."

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 4, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

"Here's a crazy idea that may work..."


Sometimes crazy ideas are the best ideas.

Consider:

a. "Let's put a man on the moon..."

b. "Dude, if you could talk to people over the internet, think of how cool that could be..."

c. "So, let me get this straight, you want to carry six beers home in a cardboard container of some kind?"

d. "You should be able to order your food from the seat of your car just like you can do your banking."

e. "I put this thin rubbery balloon-like thing on, get a feeling, but not a disease or a baby? Cool!"

f. "F getting up off the couch. Why isn't there a thing I just point at the tv to change the channels?"

Like I said......

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 4, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

No cap next year right? O.K. here goes......

DRAFT 2010:

Eric BERRY FS #1
RT #2 and #3
LG #5
Best available #7

Move LaRON LANDRY back to SS.

Put KAREEM MOORE on special teams solely.

Let rookies and HEYER/WILLIAMS scrap it out for starting RT.

Keep JONES as LT back-up.

Run #5 LG at BATISTE for back-up.

Keep MONTGOMERY at back-up C.

Let THOMAS, RINEHART and WILLIAMS vie for starting RG and back-up.

FA 2010:

Best LT
" K
" CB
" OLB

Move ORAKPO back to down DE.

Non-renew:

ROB JACKSON
PHILLIP DANIELS
RENALDO WYNN

Give LORENZO ALEXANDER a BIG raise, and infect ANTHONY MONTGOMERY with his motor.

Hail to the REDSKINS.

Posted by: glawrence007 | December 4, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

To see how it will be done, link here:

http://www.nfldraftdog.com/nfl-team-columns/washington-redskins.html


Posted by: TheCork | December 4, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

The whole "New-Orleans-is-setup-for-a-letdown" factor is trumped by 3 things:

1) Not only Greggggggggg Williams, but also a number of ex-Skins - Brunnell, Torrence, Prioleau - are going to make sure their teammates don't sleep on this game.

2) Sean Payton and Drew Brees are not shallow soap-opera nincompoops. If we were talking about Wade Phillips and Tony Romo, I would agree that a letdown is in order since those imbeciles can't ever seem to appreciate what it means to get up for a potentially big/tough game. I just don't see Payton/Brees letting this one slip by. They are real-deal leaders and will have the guys ready.

3) We still have Jim Zorn.

Posted by: p1funk | December 4, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

p1, thats funny....what would be funnier would be how Los's agent is gonna try and get him a contract next year....

"no see, what the problem is is those dreaded double moves...my client can't do anything about em..."

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 4, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse


Yes.

I just had to chuckle.

The infamy of Rogers vs. The Dreaded Double-Move doesn't even get by some nobody fantasy football pundit.

Posted by: p1funk | December 4, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

1) Not only Greggggggggg Williams, but also a number of ex-Skins - Brunnell, Torrence, Prioleau - are going to make sure their teammates don't sleep on this game.

Did you really use Brunell/Torrence and Priouleau as points of reference??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 4, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

"The infamy of Rogers vs. The Dreaded Double-Move doesn't even get by some nobody fantasy football pundit."

I bet LaRon Landry gets juked for a long run touchdown before Rogers does.

And really, Landry's failures to snuff guys out are what are so sad.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 4, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Drew Breeze's Jurgensen-esque quick release and rapier-quick brain reading defenses makes an okay O-line look a whole lot better..

Posted by: frak | December 4, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Most mock drafts have us at 5 I think that could be high enough to get Okung, but the mocks say we will draft Bradford.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 4, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

And really, Landry's failures to snuff guys out are what are so sad.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 4, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Yes. The term "safety" applies loosely to Laron Landry.


Yes, Bean.

Brunnell, Torrence and Prioleau are going to show up at FedEx Field, find Snerratto in the stadium and say "Hey guys! Our team is 11-0. How are you guys doing this year!"

All they need to do is find a roster spot for Derrick Frost and the LaCanfora Redskins-Castoff Team will be fulfilled through the undefeated Saints.

Posted by: p1funk | December 4, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Drew Breeze's Jurgensen-esque quick release and rapier-quick brain reading defenses makes an okay O-line look a whole lot better..

Posted by: frak

That's true. Just think, they weren't saying that a few years ago when he was in San Diego. They used to say he was to short, didn't make good decisions, and not an NFL QB. Sounds familiar?

Posted by: dcwun | December 4, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Most mock drafts have us at 5 I think that could be high enough to get Okung, but the mocks say we will draft Bradford.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 4, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse


Depends on who ends up in front of us.

Rams and Browns don't need a left tackle.

Lions, Bucs, Chiefs don't need a QB.

Bills and Raiders need everything.

Posted by: p1funk | December 4, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Drew Breeze's Jurgensen-esque quick release and rapier-quick brain reading defenses makes an okay O-line look a whole lot better..

Posted by: frak | December 4, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Maybe it's the 2 4ths, 5th, and second round draft choices they put into it? Those are just the starters. Their first round tackle is on IR.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 4, 2009 12:03 PM | Report abuse

glawrence - we don't have a #3.

Posted by: Rypien11 | December 4, 2009 12:08 PM | Report abuse

http://www.fanhouse.com/2009/12/03/several-ufl-players-inked-by-nfl-teams/

10 players from the UFL are signing with NFL teams, including some RBs and a OL to the Bills.

Shocker the Skins, despite being completely dinged up in those spots have yet to sign anyone from that league.

Posted by: alex35332 | December 4, 2009 10:23 AM
===========================================

2 former skins were mentioned in this article... grant and richarson...

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | December 4, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

glawrence - we don't have a #3.

Posted by: Rypien11 | December 4, 2009 12:08 PM | Report abuse

We will once we trade Ladell Betts!!

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 4, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

"Drew Breeze's Jurgensen-esque quick release and rapier-quick brain reading defenses makes an okay O-line look a whole lot better."

True.

He also throws a great deep ball and places the ball to the right spot on short throws.

Troy Aikman was the last quarterback in the NFL to be so accurate.

Did I say that?

Yes I did.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 4, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Our #3 was used on Jarmon I think he is better then anything in the draft we could take at 3. Plus he already has a year experience.

The injury hurts but he will heal from that.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 4, 2009 12:11 PM | Report abuse

I'll take Bradford.

The future bum I call Clausen is moving past Bradford on most peoples board.....

I would rather wait for MAllet to come out, but he'll be the top pick next year.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 4, 2009 12:14 PM | Report abuse

NExt year meaning the year after the next draft.......

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 4, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse

I would rather wait for MAllet to come out, but he'll be the top pick next year.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | December 4, 2009 12:14 PM | Report abuse

I actually like Ponder. He makes quick accurate throws. I'd have him on the bench and weight training for a couple of years. I think he could be really good here.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | December 4, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Little slow on here today.

Beepers.

Posted by: Curzon417 | December 4, 2009 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Of course the Titans have a better chance of defeating the Colts than the Redskins have defeating the Saints.

Ignoring the the fact that the Colts have almost lost each week of the the past five weeks, the Titans have played well on BOTH sides of the ball for each of their five consecutive victories.

The Redskins have only put together one complete game this season, and that was against the Broncos. The Saints, on the other hand, have simply looked flawless. Statistically, the Saints' defense is worse than the Redskins', but Gregg Williams is simply a guru, and the Redskins' patch-work offensive line will not be able to handle Williams' complex blitz packages.

Posted by: MyPostIDisAfake | December 4, 2009 12:33 PM | Report abuse

MUST READING:

"Talk of Ending a Running Style Raises Concern"

Vikings running back Adrian Peterson is not afraid to put his head down and deliver a blow. “I think it’s insane to tell a runner you can’t lower your head,” he said.
But early this season, when Peterson ran around left end against the Detroit Lions, and saw safety Louis Delmas poised to go low to tackle him near the sideline, Peterson lowered his shoulder and head a little more than a foot off the ground. It produced a brutal hit on Delmas’s helmet and showed Peterson’s willingness to deliver a blow. Looking dangerous even to the naked eye, the collision may also have provided celluloid rationale for the N.F.L.’s preliminary conversations about whether to prohibit running backs from lowering their helmets into defenders.


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/04/sports/football/04hits.html?_r=1&ref=sports


Posted by: MistaMoe | December 4, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

The comments to this entry are closed.

 
 
RSS Feed
Subscribe to The Post

© 2010 The Washington Post Company