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Willie Parker not concerned about depth chart

Redskins running back Willie Parker was not aware that running back Ryan Torain had leapfrogged him into the No. 3 slot on Washington's most recent, and first public depth chart. But the veteran said he was not worried about the move.

"I really don't even pay no attention to it, or whatever," Parker said. "They have my name at four? Yeah, I don't really even pay no attention to it really."

Parker is one of three Pro Bowl running backs on the roster, along with Clinton Portis and Larry Johnson, but the former Pittsburgh Steelers standout has not shown as much as the other two in the early days at camp.

Parker said he has not practiced in recent days due to being "kind of nicked up," and that Shanahan had given him days off. The move is not needed to motivate him, he said, and this early in training camp he feels he has plenty of time to prove himself.

"It's too early for that," Parker said, when asked if he felt it was more important now to take advantage of his limited reps. "I've been in this league for a little bit and I know what I got to do, just [got] to keep doing it and just be a part of this ballclub."

Asked if he was disappointed to hear of the change, Parker again said he wasn't bothered.

"Ain't no disappointment, I'm not even worried about it," he said. "I just know what I can do and I know how I'm going to do it and when I'm going to do it."

Torain, too, was unaware of the recent change in the depth chart. A favorite of Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan when the two were in Denver, the second-year back has shown some of the skills that once had Shanahan comparing him to former All-Pro Terrell Davis - who coincidentally has worked at Redskins camp this year as a coaching intern.

"It's preseason and got a lot of games coming up," Torain said. "Just got to keep working hard and coaches are evaluating us, so we're just going to go out there and do our best."

By Paul Tenorio  |  August 9, 2010; 6:32 PM ET
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FIRST to say Parker shouldn't be concerned with the depth chart...he's already gone.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 9, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

srobert, nobody's taking anything away from Ray Lewis. But if some up here can place caveats on Jerry Rice--think about that a minute...Jerry f-ing Rice--surely the same can be done for Ray Lewis. Dude almost always had mammoth D-lineman or two in front of him. At his best, Ray had Sam Adams and Tony Siragusa in front of him. Now he's got Ngata and Pryce.

Again...Lewis has earned everything he's gotten. But I think some people deify him a bit because he's so intense (to the point of insane) and he's a tremendous leader.

Compare the stats for yourself. I'm fully aware that it's not all about stats, but both guys are leaders, both guys have tremendous work ethic. The only thing that separates the two is media attention and perception.

http://www.nfl.com/players/londonfletcher/profile?id=FLE665780

http://www.nfl.com/players/raylewis/profile?id=LEW562347

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 9, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

The only thing that separates the two is media attention and perception.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 9, 2010 6:59 PM |

And a body. Don't forget that.

Posted by: BirnamWood | August 9, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

not sure if someone caught this earlier ... from Peter King, one of the HOF voters

When the five-man Seniors Committee meets later this month to determine the two other candidates to be considered by the 44 voters next February, the names with the most traction would appear to be one at linebacker -- Chris Hanburger, Chuck Howley or Maxie Baughan (did you know Baughan was voted to the Pro Bowl eight more times than Ray Nitschke?) -- and an offensive lineman ... maybe Jerry Kramer or Dick Stanfel. I hear lots of sentiment for Hanburger.

**************

about time for Hanburger. Baughan and Hanburger were both 9 time Pro Bowlers, with Hanburger being 1st team All Pro 4 times.

Also, fwiw, saw a dallas paper complaining about the Hall voters having an anti-cowboy bias. If that's not enough to make you want to throw up, I'm not sure what would. drew pearson? about 15th in receiving yards when he retired? Try Gary Clark who was 8th in all time receiving yds when he retired (oh yeah, irvin was 10th when he retired). And pearson had 12 fewer TDs than our TE Jerry Smith, for crying out loud. anti-cowboy bias, my a$$. I gotta go vomit.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 9, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

brownwood, why then all the tweets about Parker bustin' loose for touchdowns when he's at practice?? Parker is very similar to Westbrook and could seriously create havoc as a safety valve (like Westbrook) for McNabb?? These older backs can all help each other out by giving each other a breather..Chess Records/ Otis B. Driftwood, out..

Posted by: frak | August 9, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

nonefromtampa

"Did Mista Moe go on vacation or get a job?"


What, you're not happy that he and his massively unfunny inaccurate posts are, like him, a goner?

This place is better off without that retard.


Posted by: gimmesummoe | August 9, 2010 7:20 PM | Report abuse

The Cowboys are our No. 1 rivals, but I didn't appreciate the fans booing Emmitt at the Induction..Emmitt was never a loud mouthed hater or bulletin board material, he was always just a hard nosed running back with the quicks going back to his college days..Hell, we mighta drafted hin, what then??? WTF, Redskins fans, there are times to hate and there are times to rant, hahaha, jus' sayin'...But Emmitt's okay in my book...borborygmy/Reality 6, out...

Posted by: frak | August 9, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

What, you're not happy that he and his massively unfunny inaccurate posts are, like him, a goner?

This place is better off without that retard.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | August 9, 2010 7:20 PM

Look, stranger, I think you're confusing mistamoe with Chia_Pet.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 9, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

If that's not enough to make you want to throw up ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 9, 2010 7:13 PM |

When you do it at the top of the 120 ft inversion loop of the Bizarro at Six Flaggs Great Adventure then you can catch up with it at the bottom of the loop so you are not out a meal, if you know what I mean.

Posted by: BirnamWood | August 9, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

"Look, stranger, I think you're confusing mistamoe with Chia_Pet."

I'm rockin' two handles:

mistamoe: work

gimmesummoe: home


I'm trying to 'blend in' with the crowd and be anonymous.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | August 9, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

The Cowboys are our No. 1 rivals, but I didn't appreciate the fans booing Emmitt at the Induction..Emmitt was never a loud mouthed hater or bulletin board material, he was always just a hard nosed running back with the quicks going back to his college days..Hell, we mighta drafted hin, what then??? WTF, Redskins fans, there are times to hate and there are times to rant, hahaha, jus' sayin'...But Emmitt's okay in my book...borborygmy/Reality 6, out...

Posted by: frak | August 9, 2010 7:25 PM |


You're aware that taking off your helmet getting you a personal foul is essentiall the "Emmit Smith Rule" right? Every touchdown he scored culminated in a seemingly enraged Emmit stomping toward the nearest camera having ripped off his helmet and discarded it like a banged-out hooker from Michael Irvin's hotel room.

Emmit cheated you too dude. He didn't write that speech and he was essentially audiioning for another chance at an analyst gig.

Book that.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 9, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

It doesn't matter who wrote E. Smith's speech. He gave it and that's all that matters.

Posted by: and_1 | August 9, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Ricky Jackson had the best speech of the weekend......

He used no notes......

Posted by: 4thFloor | August 9, 2010 4:52 PM |


He used no brain-cells either.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 9, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

This place is better off without that retard.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | August 9, 2010 7:20 PM |

Dude - if all the retards were removed from RI there would be hardly anything left - and that includes the "Mayor".

Posted by: BirnamWood | August 9, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Herm Edwards almost slipped and called AH the n word. Edwards' General Patton, Bobby Knight, Denny Green rants stopped being funny after "You play....to win....the game......hello?"

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 9, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

I'm rockin' two handles:

mistamoe: work

gimmesummoe: home

Posted by: gimmesummoe | August 9, 2010 7:37 PM

Yeah, that's what we all do -- separate identities for home and work:

work: you_bet_right_away
home: whatever_you_say_dear

Posted by: beep-beep | August 9, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

got respect for emmitt. Not enough to want to watch his speech mind you ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 9, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

brownwood, why then all the tweets about Parker bustin' loose for touchdowns when he's at practice?? Parker is very similar to Westbrook and could seriously create havoc as a safety valve (like Westbrook) for McNabb?? These older backs can all help each other out by giving each other a breather..Chess Records/ Otis B. Driftwood, out..

Posted by: frak | August 9, 2010 7:15 PM

Hope that's a joke...living in PA, I've seen my fair share of Steeler football over the last few years and I can tell you that if Mewelde f-ing Moore is taking you off the field on 3rd down, you ain't sh*t. Parker can't catch, can't block. He's fast and runs tough between the tackles for a guy his size. He was the product of speed and having a good line. It's no coincidence that his game fell off around the same time the Steelers O-line did. Dude wasn't undrafted for nothing.

Portis is a lock to start. LJ is having the best camp of any RB here and Torain is a young prospect. Injury is the only way he stays here.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 9, 2010 7:57 PM | Report abuse

For bw26 and all the other Madden heads ou there..

Madden 2011 Review

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/111/1111139p1.html

Posted by: Diesel44 | August 9, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Fast Willie won't even be here long enough to get on the next Eastern Motors commercial where he can look stoned and dance around like a 5 year old retard like the dude with the straight pockets does.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 9, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Fast Willie won't even be here long enough to get on the next Eastern Motors commercial where he can look stoned and dance around like a 5 year old retard like the dude with the straight pockets does.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 9, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Fast Willie won't even be here long enough to get on the next Eastern Motors commercial where he can look stoned and dance around like a 5 year old retard like the dude with the straight pockets does.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 9, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

My bad, sorry forum.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 9, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

No, brownwood, the tweets were saying he ran some long runs and screen passes back for TDs with the first team..I'm going to leave this go now because I don't trust sh*t, and you might be setting off a smoke grenade fer all I know, peaceout Mordred Von Frakenstein...

Posted by: frak | August 9, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Studs, duds and notes
By: John Keim

OK, because the Redskins didn’t work in full pads and because we had to watch the action from about five miles away (they were on the far field), hard to do a full list of Studs and Duds. So we included them in the notes instead.

Studs: QB Donovan McNabb. Had his best day of camp; he was much more accurate and delivered a couple passes in tight spots. McNabb hit Santana Moss in the left seam for a long gain. Another time he ran a bootleg to the right and threw back to Moss. And perhaps his best throw came when he hit fullback Darrel Young (at least I think it was Young; hard to tell) on a wheel route down the right sideline. The pass fell just over LaRon Landry’s arms. Perfect.

…LB Andre Carter, working with the starters, had a strong day. He beat right tackle Stephon Heyer a couple times on a rush. Make your own comments and draw your own conclusions. As for Carter, it was one of his better days rushing in a while. Last year, he was quite visible up front; this summer, he had been quiet as he adapts to rushing from a two-point stance. It’s an adjustment.

…RG Artis Hicks had a better day. Looked like he stayed a little lower, though there is a tendency for D-lineman to get into his pads quicker. Hard for him to get his hands as tight as they need to be immediately. Still, there was improvement today.

Posted by: Diesel44 | August 9, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Dud: WR Terrence Austin struggled, even though he did catch a long ball from McNabb. But he dropped at least two others. Also, I continue to wonder about his ability to block. This offense must have receivers who can block. Austin whiffed on a block attempt of Justin Tryon. Just wasn’t quick enough to get in front of him nor strong enough to bump him off stride. Still like him.

…Funny how good Richard Bartel looked last week when facing off vs. Colt Brennan last week. Bartel is now the forgotten guy with John Beck around. Beck continues to show a little more each practice. He can throw from different angles, which isn’t bad. But it’s his ability to know when to throw that helps. He has a good feel for the rhythm of a play. Don’t know what this will mean, but I’ve seen things I like.

…Don’t know what this means, but noticed today that Adam Carriker gets much lower when he is about to go straight at his man – he’s almost squatting; allows him to get under his pads immediately. When he stunts, or when he’s going to go at an angle, he tends to have his butt higher in the air at the snap.

…LB London Fletcher did not work during the full-team drills. H.B. Blades replaced him and caused a fumble of Chris Cooley. Blades did as the defensive players have been instructed when coming from behind; he punched at the ball. Blades also recovered about 10 yards downfield.

…OK, now to Albert Haynesworth. He indeed worked with the No. 2 defense as a nose guard, though he also moved around. At times he appeared to line up as a tackle in a two-man set. Looked like he also played a snap or two at end. He was classic Albert; at times disruptive in the backfield – he excels at pursuit along the line and he destroyed Kory Lichtensteiger with a swim move to pressure on a bootleg. But he also took some plays off and simply danced in the middle. Another time he dropped into coverage. But the big fella did a good job staying low and exploding (when he wanted). I’ll also say, Edwin Williams, playing guard, did a decent job against him.

…But the offense ran one play in which they allowed Haynesworth to penetrate upfield and then hit the defense with a screen pass on that side to Cooley. It worked big time.

…It wouldn’t be surprising if Haynesworth does not play in Friday’s preseason opener vs. Buffalo. Coach Mike Shanahan said he wants to make sure Haynesworth is in good football shape first.

…Shay Hodge caught a couple passes today. For all you Shay Hodge fans.

…WR Malcolm Kelly could not practice again and only did light jogging before practice. Can’t imagine there’s any way he’ll play Friday vs. Buffalo.

Posted by: Diesel44 | August 9, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

srobert, nobody's taking anything away from Ray Lewis. But if some up here can place caveats on Jerry Rice--think about that a minute...Jerry f-ing Rice--surely the same can be done for Ray Lewis. Dude almost always had mammoth D-lineman or two in front of him. At his best, Ray had Sam Adams and Tony Siragusa in front of him. Now he's got Ngata and Pryce.

Again...Lewis has earned everything he's gotten. But I think some people deify him a bit because he's so intense (to the point of insane) and he's a tremendous leader.

Compare the stats for yourself. I'm fully aware that it's not all about stats, but both guys are leaders, both guys have tremendous work ethic. The only thing that separates the two is media attention and perception.

http://www.nfl.com/players/londonfletcher/profile?id=FLE665780

http://www.nfl.com/players/raylewis/profile?id=LEW562347

Posted by: brownwood26

Did not see the Jerry Rice caveat. I don't look at stats for certain positions like Oline, Interior Dline and ILB. Those positions have to be judged on how dominant the player is playing the game. Its not like wr, rb and QB where stats are more indicative of their success.

"Again...Lewis has earned everything he's gotten. But I think some people deify him a bit because he's so intense (to the point of insane) and he's a tremendous leader."

That paragraph that you typed is exactly why he is considered one of the best of all times. If you look at the other guys listed among the best that paragraph also describes them. Singletary looked insane with those eyes. Butkus was crazy. Taylor was coked up and insane.

Lewis did win DPOY in the 3-4 defense without Siragusa, Adams or Ngata. Anthony weaver, Kelly Gregg and Marques Douglas were in front of him.

Posted by: srobert1117 | August 9, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

…I like watching Josh Bidwell try to punt inside the 50-yard line. Does it the Australian Football way with his drops; his punts go end over end and you can see how it would bounce back.

…The Redskins say they’re not concerned that Jammal Brown hasn’t practiced since Tuesday. They’d never say it anyway, but it has to be a concern. The hip causing problems is the same one that required surgery.

Posted by: Diesel44 | August 9, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

By: John Keim

The dud should be writing lyrics for Ludicris. If you took the word "low" out of his vocabulary it would render him just about speechless.

Posted by: BirnamWood | August 9, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

funny comment on sfgate.com, following an article on their new backup QB -- it requires a login to post, so the guy's online name really is ...

CultofColt 1:16 AM on August 9, 2010
Welcome to Oakland Colt. I was a UH fan and I was a redskins fan since 1983. Cutting you was the last straw and I will be rooting for you this year. Oakland is lucky to have picked you up. GO GET EM BRAH!

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 9, 2010 8:24 PM | Report abuse

BirnamWood-

I guess you've never had a coach use the phrase...Low Man Wins (LMW)

Posted by: Diesel44 | August 9, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

I bet you right now, at this moment, Colt Brennan is smoking weed with Jamarcus.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 9, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Zeke-

Now we know what happened to KurtShanaham.

Posted by: Diesel44 | August 9, 2010 8:29 PM | Report abuse

"Coach Mike Shanahan said he wants to make sure Haynesworth is in good football shape first."

Warren Sapp ripped into AH's conditioning on tonite's NFL All Access, and his analysis shows it's extremely important for #92 to get into complete shape.

Sapp showed how over the course of the opening series against the 'boys, AH essentially faded out due to exhaustion.

That scoring drive was just 8-9 plays and AH was dead tired.

And that drive was the metaphor for AH's play all season as it seemed every five plays, he was running off the field for air.

I'm sure Shanny is aware of this as he exploited the lack of cardiovascular conditioning in big tackles in the Packers v. Broncos Super Bowl where the constant use of T Davis running the 'zone-stretch' wore down Gilbert Brown, the big nose tackle/run stopper.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | August 9, 2010 8:29 PM | Report abuse

They’d never say it anyway, but it has to be a concern. The hip causing problems is the same one that required surgery.

Posted by: Diesel44 | August 9, 2010 8:14 PM |

Them getting him for a song - like the Bellamy Bros song, "There's a reason ..."

Posted by: BirnamWood | August 9, 2010 8:32 PM | Report abuse

BirnamWood-

I guess you've never had a coach use the phrase...Low Man Wins (LMW)

Posted by: Diesel44 | August 9, 2010 8:26 PM |

And I guess you never had a rapper use the phrase ... Low Girl Wins (LGW)

Posted by: BirnamWood | August 9, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

My bad, sorry forum.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 9, 2010 8:06 PM |

You might impress Shanny. He likes repetition.

Posted by: BirnamWood | August 9, 2010 8:44 PM | Report abuse

"FIRST to say Parker shouldn't be concerned with the depth chart...he's already gone."

Yeah, was thinking the same thing.

- Ray

Posted by: rmcazz | August 9, 2010 8:46 PM | Report abuse

You're aware that taking off your helmet getting you a personal foul is essentiall the "Emmit Smith Rule" right? Every touchdown he scored culminated in a seemingly enraged Emmit stomping toward the nearest camera having ripped off his helmet and discarded it like a banged-out hooker from Michael Irvin's hotel room.

Emmit cheated you too dude. He didn't write that speech and he was essentially audiioning for another chance at an analyst gig.

Book that.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 9, 2010 7:40 PM

Uhh....Dexter manly had as much to do with that as anybody. His agent advised him to take off his helmet and stand there so the cameras could get a good shot of him - to help improve his recognition to get more endorsements.

Just saying...

Posted by: edvar | August 9, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

I bet behind closed doors with his closest friends or maybe just his son....coach Shannahan laughs his balls off about breaking Haynes-girth and by default, getting him in shape and pissed for game 1 v. the Cowpies.

Shanny is way more of an evil genius that I imagined. I like it.

Still though, I want more depth on the O-line becasue I do believe we'll be running a lot of double-TE formations and Davis and Cooley will probably be releasing and keeping safties honest and LB's from just keying run.

I am totally serious about this but Fat Albert could extend the hell out of his career by moving to guard. You could entice him to that position by offering to let him pull all the time and layeth the smack on LB's and CB's.

Is that totally retarded?

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 9, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Agree to disagree, srobert...at the end of the day, the only meaningful difference between Lewis and Fletcher is that Lewis played on more good teams (and in more playoff games) and Fletch played mostly on bad to mediocre teams. That seems to be what people pay the most attention to so I guess we'll have to live with that. I'd be very interested to see if people start to change that perception of Fletch if he's capable of squeezing out an MVP-type season and leading the team to a SB before he calls it quits...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 9, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Is that totally retarded?

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 9, 2010 8:50 PM |

Semi. It is somewhat of a contradiction to say that MS won the mano a mano contest with AH and have his balls rolling around on the floor just because he laughed about it.

Posted by: BirnamWood | August 9, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Did we sorta just hear a rapper say Low Girl Wins? Are you a rapper BirnamWood?

Posted by: mack1 | August 9, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

The Skins will probably keep four RBs:

Portis
Johnson
Westbrook
Torain

Posted by: siris | August 9, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

I'm down with Tim Tebow..We live in the dream state, non-violent at heart and with no fear, Praise The Lord..

Posted by: frak | August 9, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

I'm down with Tim Tebow..We live in the dream state, non-violent at heart and with no fear, Praise The Lord..

Posted by: frak | August 9, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

The Skins will probably keep four RBs:

Portis
Johnson
Westbrook
Torain

Posted by: siris | August 9, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

I'm down with Tim Tebow..We live in the dream state, non-violent at heart and with no fear, Praise The Lord..

Posted by: frak | August 9, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Agree to disagree, srobert...at the end of the day, the only meaningful difference between Lewis and Fletcher is that Lewis played on more good teams (and in more playoff games) and Fletch played mostly on bad to mediocre teams. That seems to be what people pay the most attention to so I guess we'll have to live with that. I'd be very interested to see if people start to change that perception of Fletch if he's capable of squeezing out an MVP-type season and leading the team to a SB before he calls it quits...

Posted by: brownwood26

Fletch did win a SB with St. Louis. The problem is that he only has 1 pro bowl and never gets mentioned among the top LBs.

It is a little late in his career for him to start collecting the accolades. He is a very good player but nowhere near HOF caliber. The Pro Bowl voting is not a popularity contest like MLB. 2/3 of the criteria is based on player and coach voting.

Posted by: srobert1117 | August 9, 2010 9:27 PM | Report abuse

I'm surprised Morris is the #5 TE; although Paulsen looked pretty good at the OTAs...

Posted by: siris | August 9, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

I just checked and the Skins updated the depth chart since this morning. Morris is now listed as the #3 FB... He's more of an H-back vs. a TE or FB.

Posted by: siris | August 9, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Fletch did win a SB with St. Louis. The problem is that he only has 1 pro bowl and never gets mentioned among the top LBs.

It is a little late in his career for him to start collecting the accolades. He is a very good player but nowhere near HOF caliber. The Pro Bowl voting is not a popularity contest like MLB. 2/3 of the criteria is based on player and coach voting.

Posted by: srobert1117 | August 9, 2010 9:27 PM


Fletch is collecting accolades late in his career AND has collected them early in his career. The fact that he IS still playing at such a high level, ESPECIALLY on sub-par teams after his SB victory w/the Rams, is why he continues to get dap and is in the discuaaion at all. Oh yeah......

...just like right now.

HOF for fletch? Let's put it this way, 2 more years of 100+ tackle seasons (should be doable in a 3-4) and he is really in the discussion.

My final reason for Fletch? Two words...

Harry Carson.

What.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 9, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

I just checked and the Skins updated the depth chart since this morning. Morris is now listed as the #3 FB... He's more of an H-back vs. a TE or FB.

Posted by: siris

really would like a DeMo update. With Yoder gone and Sellers aging, it'd be nice to know if we've got the next generation of blocking back in house. Wouldn't mind seeing some update on Sellers as well. Cuz that blocking role is a big deal this year.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 9, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Fletcher stepped into the middle of the Redskins’ defense in 07 and has led the team in tackles each of the last three years. He has played in all 192 games of his 12-year career, starting 177. Fletcher has logged 100+ tackles for 11 consecutive seasons.He started for St. Louis in Super Bowl XXXIV in 1999 and helped the Rams defeat the Tennessee Titans 23-16 to win the championship.

On top of all that, how can you keep a man like Fletch out of the Hall. The hall was created to preserve the memory of a player you'd like your kid to look up to along with amassing statistics atop their position measured throughout the history of the League.

Today we all like to judge and project. Let the man finish his career. you have to admit, if Fletch finishes out his career injury free....he's got a hell of a shot.

Posted by: No_Punt_Intended | August 9, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

really would like a DeMo update.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 9, 2010 9:44 PM |

DeMo you post,
DeLess we guess.

Posted by: BirnamWood | August 9, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

That doesn't rhyme BirnamWood.

Posted by: mack1 | August 9, 2010 10:14 PM | Report abuse

"I really don't even pay no attention to it, or whatever," Parker said. "They have my name at four? Yeah, I don't really even pay no attention to it really."

Poor Willie.

That was one of the funniest transcripts I've read in a while.

Posted by: 88mph | August 9, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Actually, the HoF was created to recognize the very best players at their given position. Fletcher's not one of them. I don't think he's ever been considered, for example, one of the top 2-3 LBs in the game. I think he's only made one Pro Bowl.

I would think a guy like Zach Thomas would get in before him. Thomas was an undersized tackling machine who was named All Pro multiple times and made numerous Pro Bowls.

Posted by: and_1 | August 9, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

I guess DeMo has replaced Colt as the fan favorite.

Nobody knew him until we drafted him (even myself who watches way more college football than I care to admit), all they know is a YouTube highlight reel and a cool nickname.

I'm rooting for the guy, but he may end up on the practice squad being a hybrid TE/FB. I've been critical of Sellers for the last 2 years, he does a lot of things but nothing (blocking, catching, short yardage, special teams) well, so I'd like to see him replaced.

Also shocked to see people put any credence into a depth chart release on Aug 9th when there is 79 guys on it. When they cut down to 53, then you can worry about a depth chart.

Posted by: Diesel44 | August 9, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

"I really don't even pay no attention to it, or whatever," Parker said. "They have my name at four? Yeah, I don't really even pay no attention to it really."

Poor Willie.

That was one of the funniest transcripts I've read in a while.

Posted by: 88mph


Unfortunately, after Iraq, Afghanistan, 9-11 and, oh yeah, the Haynesworth Scapegoat Job, nobody really takes the Post's comments seriously..But , some of the ones here are interesting..

Posted by: frak | August 9, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

When will America end its futile war on drugs?

aRe drug dealers the real humanitarians of the world?

Posted by: Debaitor | August 9, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

My bad...climates bad, blame it on global warming..

Posted by: frak | August 9, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

I love LFB and I'm proud of him on and off the field. This argument of comparing him to Ray Lewis has been done before.

LFB's resume
Super Bowl XXXIV Champion
1× Pro Bowl selection (2009)
Most tackles from 2000-2009 (1244)

Ray Ray's resume
11× Pro Bowl selection; (1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009)
9× All-Pro selection (1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2008, 2009)
Super Bowl champion (XXXV)
Super Bowl XXXV MVP
2× AP NFL Defensive Player of Year (2000, 2003)
3× AFC Defensive Player Of The Year (2000, 2001, 2003)
2× NFL Alumni Linebacker Of The Year (1999, 2003)
2× All-American (1994, 1995)
Record 11 Pro Bowls for an Inside/Middle Linebacker[1]
Shares Record of 9 All-Pro selections for Inside/Middle Linebacker with Joe Schmidt[2]
NFL 2000s All-Decade Team
20 sack/20 interception Club- Quickest to reach (113 games)

You are out of your F'in mind bw26, RR, and anyone else calling their careers comparable. Ray is a first ballot HOF and in the discussion of GOAT at MLB while LFB is a really good player.

It's called the Hall Of Fame, not the Hall of Good.

Posted by: Diesel44 | August 9, 2010 10:52 PM | Report abuse

From Schefter's visit to Redskins camp:

During the season he spent out of football, Haslett spent time with Shanahan. The two men studied film together in Denver. They discussed the principles and details of the 3-4 defense. Their time together turned into an unintentional job interview. And the more it went on, the more Shanahan knew he had the man he wanted to lead his defense.

• Shanahan is conducting an interesting experiment with some of his former players. In the past couple weeks, Shanahan has turned to his former standouts to help teach these Redskins his system. Former Broncos star Terrell Davis spent more than a week with the Redskins, helping pass along the lessons that he learned in Shanahan's offense.

Former Buccaneers and Broncos running back Michael Pittman has done the same. Former Raiders, Panthers and Broncos quarterback Steve Beuerlein has been brought in to work with Redskins quarterbacks. And even former Broncos and Jets safety Steve Atwater is now in Washington, working with Redskins defensive backs. The former players have enjoyed getting a taste of the coaching life.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp10/columns/story?columnist=schefter_adam&id=5450534

Posted by: Curzon417 | August 9, 2010 11:26 PM | Report abuse

The Cowboys are our No. 1 rivals, but I didn't appreciate the fans booing Emmitt at the Induction..Emmitt was never a loud mouthed hater or bulletin board material, he was always just a hard nosed running back with the quicks going back to his college days..Hell, we mighta drafted hin, what then??? WTF, Redskins fans, there are times to hate and there are times to rant, hahaha, jus' sayin'...But Emmitt's okay in my book...borborygmy/Reality 6, out...

Posted by: frak | August 9, 2010 7:25 PM |

That was not booing sound you heard, it was a normal chant for Daryl Johnston AKA Moose Johnson, the chant you heard was mooooose and not boooooooo!

Posted by: abxinc | August 9, 2010 11:33 PM | Report abuse

"...Low Man Wins."

This comment reminds me of the old Richard Pryor joke about two old men on a bridge suspended over a river who stopped haggling to take a pee in the middle of a argument over whose 'thing' was longer:

Moe: Man, this water is cold.

Colt Brennan: Yeah, and it's deep, too.

Posted by: gimmesummoe | August 9, 2010 11:40 PM | Report abuse

The Cowboys are our No. 1 rivals, but I didn't appreciate the fans booing Emmitt at the Induction..Emmitt was never a loud mouthed hater or bulletin board material, he was always just a hard nosed running back with the quicks going back to his college days..Hell, we mighta drafted hin, what then??? WTF, Redskins fans, there are times to hate and there are times to rant, hahaha, jus' sayin'...But Emmitt's okay in my book...borborygmy/Reality 6, out...

Posted by: frak | August 9, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse


Cram it, Brokeback Cowboy-lover.

Don't bring this crap to the blog.

Posted by: p1funk | August 9, 2010 11:42 PM | Report abuse

"Emmitt was never a loud mouthed hater or bulletin board material, he was always just a hard nosed running back with the quicks going back to his college days..Hell, we mighta drafted hin, what then??? WTF,"

frak-

And if my aunt had a crank she would be my uncle. F Emmitt and his ghost written speach and you just went down a few notches my punk rock fiend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVfbLWfVYfY

Posted by: Diesel44 | August 10, 2010 12:05 AM | Report abuse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7m8kCQV77M&feature=player_embedded#!

If this doesn't get you pumped up for the season opener than you should check your pulse.......

Posted by: Diesel44 | August 10, 2010 1:01 AM | Report abuse

That was not booing sound you heard, it was a normal chant for Daryl Johnston AKA Moose Johnson, the chant you heard was mooooose and not boooooooo!

Posted by: abxinc | August 9, 2010 11:33 PM
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I thought they were saying Boo-urns.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | August 10, 2010 1:06 AM | Report abuse

How come Ryan Torain isn't in Madden?

Posted by: RedskinsXXVI | August 10, 2010 1:17 AM | Report abuse

Fletch did win a SB with St. Louis. The problem is that he only has 1 pro bowl and never gets mentioned among the top LBs.

It is a little late in his career for him to start collecting the accolades. He is a very good player but nowhere near HOF caliber. The Pro Bowl voting is not a popularity contest like MLB. 2/3 of the criteria is based on player and coach voting.

Posted by: srobert1117 | August 9, 2010 9:27 PM


Just to gain a little perspective here, check out John Riggins' career:

http://www.nfl.com/players/johnriggins/profile?id=RIG207644

Love the Diesel, but if he's not the character that he is, he's not in the HoF without paying at the door. He's got a grand total of ONE Pro Bowl. As a Redskin, he got over 4 yards per rush a whopping TWICE. Save for his record-setting '83 season where he ran for 24 TDs, he's got only two seasons in which he rushed for double-digit TDs.

So Pro-Bowl voting and HoF voting IS a popularity contest. So is any award, if you think about it. Did either of the Mannings deserve SB MVP? Hell no. Has someone ever won MVP with a losing record? Rarely if ever...it's usually the best player on the best team. Over the last 10 years, only two players have won DPOY without making the playoffs and they both (Jason Taylor and Michael Strahan) happen to already be big name players. And in a league where Rich Gannon can seemingly come from nowhere and win MVP in his late 30s (38, I think), I wouldn't say that "it's a little late in Fletcher's career for him to start collecting accolades". I'm not saying it'll happen or even that it's in any way likely...just saying that Fletcher shouldn't just be dismissed because Lewis is more popular.

Trust this: if Fletcher plays on those Baltimore teams instead of the crappy Buffalo and Washington teams, we're talking about him as a HoFer. Guaranteed.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 10, 2010 5:27 AM | Report abuse

I know Sally Jenkins doesn't have many fans up here, but she's making me feel good about Kyle Shanahan and this offense:

"Mike's signature in winning two Super Bowls with the Denver Broncos was a superb offense, especially with John Elway at quarterback, but in designing the new Redskins scheme it was the father who took instruction from the son. Mike listened to his son's chattering intensity for a while and then picked up a pencil and started taking notes. "I had never sat down and showed my dad my offense, and some of it he has never done," Kyle says. "He said, 'That makes sense,' and he started getting excited."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/09/AR2010080902329.html

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 10, 2010 5:31 AM | Report abuse

So Pro-Bowl voting and HoF voting IS a popularity contest. So is any award, if you think about it.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 10, 2010 5:27 AM

Not all of them. Redskins Ring of Honor is still based on merit. If it had actually been a popularity contest, Colt Brennan's #5 would be up there.

Posted by: beep-beep | August 10, 2010 6:18 AM | Report abuse

I say this with all due respect:

beep beep

Posted by: beep-beep | August 10, 2010 6:26 AM | Report abuse

I wouldn't call any "Ring of Honor" an award per se...especially since there's no voting process involved.

I find Adam Schefter to be a pretentious little weasel f*ck, but I thought his take on our LBs was interesting:

"Washington's linebackers are as good, if not better than, the unit that Haslett fielded in Pittsburgh from 1997 to 1999, when he was the Steelers' defensive coordinator. His linebackers were Jason Gildon, Levon Kirkland, Earl Holmes and Greg Lloyd.

Washington can line up outside linebackers Brian Orakpo and Andre Carter, and inside linebackers Rocky McIntosh and London Fletcher. Few teams can match this type of potential and production at linebacker."

Really? The only two guys I have even a little bit of confidence in playing this defense is Orakpo and Fletcher. Beyond that, it's all question marks IMO...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 10, 2010 6:28 AM | Report abuse

wow, there is not a starting NFL back on the entire roster. Portis can't break 5.0 in the 40 and the other three are arena backs at best. shut it down and wait for hockey because this is going to get ugly once McChicken gets rocked behind Mickey and Minnie on the OL. And to those wombat's kicking Emmitt, you are not even smart enough to be called Son's of Palin.

Posted by: doyouktt | August 11, 2010 7:17 AM | Report abuse

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