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Haynesworth takes another day off to rest knee, no end in sight

With his knee still sore, Albert Haynesworth and the Redskins decided he should take more time before making yet another attempt to pass his conditioning test, two people familiar with the situation said early Tuesday morning.

The Redskins did not schedule a test Tuesday for Haynesworth because on Monday he failed to complete the first leg of the two, timed 300-yard shuttle runs. Haynesworth appeared to jog lightly Monday while testing his knee before the morning session at Redskins Park.

He quickly determined he could not complete the running test because of his knee pain. It is highly unlikely Haynesworth would attempt to run even if his knee feels better later in the day, but that's always a possibility, sources said.

Coach Mike Shanahan, who runs the Redskins' football operation, has said Haynesworth must pass the test to participate in full practice with his teammates. After failing to complete the process on Monday, Haynesworth continued to work on the side with defensive coordinator Jim Haslett and defensive line coach Jacob Burney. He rode a stationary bike in an effort to improve his cardiovascular conditioning and watched the team work in 11-on-11 drills.

Some team sources have privately suggested Haynesworth may not be capable of passing the test that only he has been required to take because he attended fewer than 50 percent of the offseason workouts. As long as his knee cooperates, Haynesworth will continue to receive treatment, complete exercises to increase his endurance, work on the side and watch the team practice. It is a schedule Haynesworth knows well after following it since training camp began.

Although Shanahan on Monday said he may consider letting Haynesworth practice at some point if he continues to fail the test, he is nowhere close to changing his stance on what Haynesworth _ who skipped all but one day of Shanahan's first offseason program _ must do to return to work on a full-time basis, people familiar with Shanahan's thinking said. Shanahan is confident he is taking the correct stance with Haynesworth in an effort to help the two-time all-pro maximize his ability and production for the team.

But Haynesworth never has fared well in these types of conditioning tests, he told friends recently. Unless Haynesworth's knee heals soon and he quickly passes the test, it appears the process could drag on for some time.

By Jason Reid  |  August 3, 2010; 2:26 AM ET
 
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First to say no end in sight to these Haynesworth Posts

And first to say phock scampbell1975

Posted by: OG_Barno | August 3, 2010 3:42 AM | Report abuse

Second to say no end in sight to these Haynesworth Posts

And second to say phuk scampbell1975

Posted by: GOmellyDOTcom | August 3, 2010 4:11 AM | Report abuse

Guess AH's pr team was up late/early to make sure their boy at the post got their message on the street.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | August 3, 2010 4:20 AM | Report abuse

I would love to get something back for AH in a trade, but I'm more interested in just getting his fat ass off the roster. I don't even care if they simple cut him at this point. End the drama...get him outta here.

And AH defenders need come at me with the "but...but we need him!" bit...we don't. By my count, 44 teams have won Super Bowls without Haynesworth and I'd be willing to bet that another 44 will win them without him. F Haynesworth, F his lack of fitness, and F the drama surrounding him. Move on...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 3, 2010 5:42 AM | Report abuse

Um, that should be "need NOT come at me"...

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 3, 2010 5:44 AM | Report abuse

On a more pleasant note, looks like Lo Alexander could be a serious player this year:

http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Alexander_s_Coming_On_At_Outside_Linebacker_135721.jsp

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 3, 2010 5:58 AM | Report abuse

Fat Al is so far gone in his own world that he doesn't even realize, or most likely doesn't care, how much most Redskins fans and probably a lot of his teammates despise him. If Fat Al wants to act like a biatch, don't cut him, don't trade him, put him on the practice squad and be done with him. Don't even let him dress for a game for the remainder of his contract. For the type of jack he cashed in, I would back-paddle and pass that test. But he wants to pout and stand on the sidelines and tug on the bib of his baseball cap like a little child while his teammates bang bodies in the heat. No one owes Fat Al ANYTHING. He took the check. So what they changed scheme. New boss in town, deal with it. Give the money back and go about your business if you don't like it. He won't do that though. That's too much like the right thing to do.

Posted by: hbu_dog | August 3, 2010 5:59 AM | Report abuse

Out of shape, sedentary, 47-year old, long-retired D. Lineman Mike Golic of Mike and Mike in the Morning tried the shuttle test that Fat Al has been (not) taking and passed it on his FIRST TRY yesterday.

Thanks for the memories Vinny & Danny, one of the all-time worst player personnel acquiring duos in sports history.

Posted by: TheCork | August 3, 2010 6:17 AM | Report abuse

If Fat Al wants to act like a biatch, don't cut him, don't trade him, put him on the practice squad and be done with him...

Posted by: hbu_dog | August 3, 2010 5:59 AM


First of all, a guy who has extensive playing experience can't be on the practice squad, let alone a Pro-Bowler. Lo Alexander couldn't get back on the p-squad if we wanted him there, so you know AH can't. P squad is a means to stash young players you're trying to develop (Byron Westbrook-type players). AH ain't that.

I get your mindset of letting him rot on the bench and 10 years ago, I would have agreed. But in today's media-driven NFL, in a world where TO made headlines for NOT having a job, AH will still be a distraction whether he's playing or not. The ONLY way to get him out of the headlines (at least from the Redskins perspective) is to get him outta town. I didn't even want his fat ass in camp, so to me the sooner it happens the better.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 3, 2010 6:17 AM | Report abuse

Out of shape, sedentary, 47-year old, long-retired D. Lineman Mike Golic of Mike and Mike in the Morning tried the shuttle test that Fat Al has been (not) taking and passed it on his FIRST TRY yesterday.

Posted by: TheCork | August 3, 2010 6:17 AM


I saw that on NFL Live yesterday...to be fair, Golic NEVER bent down to touch the line, as is part of the drill. So even though he met the marks EXACTLY (70 secs the first leg, 73 the 2nd leg), I'm certain he doesn't make those times if he has to do the drill precisely.

That said, if an out of shape, sedentary, 47-year old, long-retired D-lineman Mike Golic can even come within shouting distance of completing the test successfully, then a "well-conditioned athlete" like AH should be able to nail it in one shot.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 3, 2010 6:24 AM | Report abuse

Before administering the next test, I would recommend that the team consult with a cardiologist to determine if AH, in fact, has a heart.

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | August 3, 2010 6:46 AM | Report abuse

Brownwood - for the 300 shuttle, you don't have to touch the line with your hand. Only agility tests really make you touch the line. Like the pro agility for example.

It's easier if you touch the line because it gets your hips lower and you have more power to push off...but when you get tired, your hips don't come down anyways for the 300, so it becomes more of a detriment than anything.

Posted by: gbaby | August 3, 2010 7:02 AM | Report abuse

In fairness, all of that work on the stationary bike is probably ripping his knees up worse than any 300 yard shuttle would ever do.

And all that watching from the sidelines must be hurting his eyes something fierce.

And that doesn't even count the headaches he must be suffering from "studying the playbook."

Or the additional strain on his butt muscles from just sitting around and doing as little as possible.

And I gotta figure his vocal cords are a bit stressed out from talking to the coaches.

And his hands and wrists must be sore from his near constant jerking off back at the team hotal, since they probably don't allow strippers and lap dancers into the player's suites.

All in all, they should just put him on the Physically Unable to Perform list, followed shortly thereafter by the IR. Enough of this pussified distraction.

Posted by: Vic1 | August 3, 2010 7:30 AM | Report abuse

I would love to get something back for AH in a trade, but I'm more interested in just getting his fat ass off the roster. I don't even care if they simple cut him at this point. End the drama...get him outta here.

Posted by: brownwood26 | August 3, 2010 5:42 AM | Report abuse

Well that's what the Redskins have done in the recent past with a lot of expensive free agents they brought on board: pay 'em big bucks and then cut them loose after one season, which is mostly what these overpaid free agents wanted in the first place, to get paid but not to have to play here.

Posted by: Pepper5 | August 3, 2010 7:44 AM | Report abuse

Maybe we're discovering what his coaches have always known: the guy doesn't play himself into condition. He's never in condition, before, during, or after the season.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 3, 2010 8:31 AM | Report abuse

Who cares at this point. Even if the guy plays for us this year, its clear hes not going to be a factor for us. Its going to be the same as last year - milking injuries, coming off the field for extended breathers, no dedication to the team. Who needs him.

Posted by: Rypien11 | August 3, 2010 8:34 AM | Report abuse

Mike Golic did not pass the tests. They lowered both of the times, and as has been admitted by ESPN, his times did not qualify: 71 and 76 seconds. Nice try.

This is getting utterly silly. I suggest that Shanahan stop playing high school disciplinarian coach, which is wildly inappropriate for NFL players, and get on with it. Note that if the Redskins cut Haynesworth while hurt, they are on the hook for the entire salary, and if the salary cap is reinstated, would have it count against their cap. Even if he signs elsewhere--the Giants and Jets would each happily pick up Haynesworth in a second if the Redskins were fool enough to cut him.

Posted by: Nemo24601 | August 3, 2010 8:46 AM | Report abuse

I'm sorry, but if 47 year old Mike Golic can pass this test with one day's notice and without training for it, there's no reason that Haynesworth can't do it. This make drag on for half of training camp, but unfortunately, no matter what happens with this test drama, I predict that AH will be starting week one against the cowgirls.

Posted by: skinsfan713 | August 3, 2010 8:48 AM | Report abuse


All in all, they should just put [Haynesworth] on the Physically Unable to Perform list, followed shortly thereafter by the IR. Enough of this pussified distraction.

Posted by: Vic1 | August 3, 2010 7:30 AM

Not on your life. No paid vacation for Haynesgirth. Make him get that lardass outta bed everyday, go to meetings, sweat on the practice field and play in games. He might only play 30% of the defensive plays, but his pride will keep him from getting whipped on the field. We have on our team the highest paid sub in the entire league. Thank you, Daniel Snyder!!

Posted by: Skinz4Lyfe | August 3, 2010 8:54 AM | Report abuse

I say drop him at sea. He'll get in shape swimming back. Anyway,... doesn't sh..t float?

Posted by: adrian7 | August 3, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

If Haynesworth was placed on the Physically Unable to Perform list, that would be challenged in a second by the NFLPA, you can't put someone who has sustained an injury in a team activity on that list. IR is doubtful as well and rather pointless, since there is no salary cap to get credit against. They would have to pay Haynesworth, and I really don't think that the Redskin's insurer is going to pick up the tab very readily.

Posted by: Nemo24601 | August 3, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Listen up, you sniveling nitwits!

My client signed his modest contract with the Redskins to help you all win football games. He's not here to be the anchor leg on some 4x400 relay team!

Get off his back and realize that he's doing YOU a favor as there is no shortage of suitors for his unique talents. I assure you that if the Redskins cut him, he'll be in a Patriot or Viking uniform approximately 2.3 seconds after he clears waivers.

There are special rules for special players. You think Lawrence Taylor had to pass some candyass conditioning test before he stepped on the field to terrorize offensive linemen and QBs alike? Get real!

Posted by: HaynesworthsAgent | August 3, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

His Overpaidness showed up out of condition and injured himself..Any excoriations need to be leveled at The Danny as well- let's hear NFL Live furnace blast Our Eager To Overspend Owner as well..Otherwise, shut the f*** up, he is injured now, let him heal..

Posted by: frak | August 3, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

It's time for pay-back. He isn't going to play for the Redskins. So just make him train as hard as possible. It will be good for his body and perhaps for his brain. He will fake an injury but it doesn't manner. One way or another make him train.

Posted by: adrian7 | August 3, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

WHO CARES????? Make him the highest paid water boy ever! Enough with this guy.

Posted by: lylewimbledon | August 3, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Do you think Lawrence Tayler, coke and all, would ever NOT come into camp in the best shape of his life? Do you think he wouldn't savor the thought of crushing competition in a workout like this?

In Haynesworth you've got a guy who was paid 100 million to be the best he could be, and all last year did not contribute up to his potential because he was out of shape.
If you allow that from your best player, what does that say about the culture of your team?
This team's going nowhere ever unless the culture of the team is changed. People who watched the last ten years (and the ten before that, and the ten before that) who don't understand that will never get it.
On a team with an incredibly strong character, with engrained leadership in the locker room, like the Skins in the 80's, or the Colts or Patriots nowadays, could probably get away with making an exception for an exceptional player. But not with this team if they are going to shake off the culture of mediocrity that has surrounded them for 15+ years.
The Titans, the team that knew Haynesworth best, felt so strongly about him they let him go. He isn't indispensable. The problem, as everyone sees, is that we're on the hook for a salary and Haynesworth can "hurt his knee" all season to get out of the test/practice (you really want this guy on your team?)
The VD team of Cerrato/Snyder is the gift that keeps on giving.

Posted by: minorthread | August 3, 2010 9:50 AM | Report abuse

They won four games with Haynesworth last year. Every time you turned around he was getting carried off the field. Let's not confuse the guy with Reggie White. If he had a decent attitude, he could be a major factor. But he doesn't have a decent attitude. If he can hurt his kneee after doing nothing more than taking a couple of conditioning drills, he's not in shape to be what the Redskins would like for him to be this season. If he didn't really hurt his knee and is just stonewalling, he's still not what the Redskins would like for him to be this year. I wouldn't let my fear of the media keep me from doing what I need to do. Pass the drill or you won't be playing this year. One man will not be the key to the Redskins success, and I don't care what the media says.

Posted by: sonny2 | August 3, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse


There are special rules for special players. You think Lawrence Taylor had to pass some candyass conditioning test before he stepped on the field to terrorize offensive linemen and QBs alike?

Posted by: HaynesworthsAgent | August 3, 2010 9:22 AM

Yes, I do (Parcells was old school). At any rate, Haynesworth's not special, something you and your client both know.

Posted by: ArmChairQB | August 3, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

First to say no end in sight to these Haynesworth Posts

And first to say phock scampbell1975

Posted by: OG_Barno | August 3, 2010 3:42 AM | Report abuse

Well if it ain't Poopy McPoop. Hey ole buddy

Posted by: Barno1 | August 3, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

What amazes me are the people who want Haynesworth treated like a sullen sixteen year old boy. Guess what. He's a grown man, not a boy, and neither he or his union will tolerate punishment in such a manner. He missed a day of mandatory workout, and he paid the fine for that, and that is the end of that. He cannot be made to train while he is hurt. He cannot be required to run laps until the sun sets. Shanahan has placed his authority as coach into question, and it is now a test of leadership for him, he's the coach, to come out of this in a way that saves face for him, and for Haynesworth.

Posted by: Nemo24601 | August 3, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, cut Haynesworth and build the defense around Lo Alexander.

Posted by: coparker5 | August 3, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Can the WaPo please clear up if Big Al will be able to practice before he passes the conditioning test???

Oh wait... the WaPo has only said the following about 12,000 times in the past week... "Haynesworth must pass the test to participate in full practice with his teammates."

Thanks... we get it... rolling eyes...

For the record, MIKE GOLIC DID NOT PASS THE STAGED CONDITIONING TEST, and ESPN has now admitted and acknowledged that fact. ESPN put an independent clock on Golic and he failed both legs of the test. Granted, he did get close, but he failed and missed the times nonetheless. Big Al is much bigger, both in height and weight, and Mike Greenberg isn't holding the stopwatch for Big Al.

But... WHO CARES if it takes Al 2 weeks to pass the test? He isn't really missing all that much.

Fact #1... Big Al is in camp and is part of the team. He's a d-lineman. It's not like his job responsibilities are that diverse or complicated. He's still getting the instruction that he needs, both on the field and in classroom meetings.

Fact #2... Big Al has dropped a considerable amount of weight, which will, in it of itself, help his stamina this coming season. No linemen in the NFL has to run 300 yards in a game all at once. And even though some in the media and some fans like to criticize Al for his alleged lack of conditioning last year, Big Al STILL took the 2nd most snaps of any defensive lineman on the team last year.

Fact #3... Even if it takes Big All 2 weeks to pass the conditioning test, come September, he'll still be on the field wreaking havoc all over the NFL. The fact remains that our defense is significantly better with Big Al and he'll be out there come game day.

I'm not worried in the least. The WaPo just needs something to write and complain about. If it wasn't for Big Al, what would they have to write about? They'd probably be beating the dead horse of Colt being cut for the next 3 weeks. Of course, they'll probably still do that anyway... rolling eyes.

Posted by: SkinsFreak | August 3, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

I hope that Coach S. doesn't cave in to A.H. As a fan I am getting tired of all the Divas in sports, including or 300+ lb diva. If he is allowed to practice he wins, didn't have to come to offseason, didn't have to pass conditioning and still gets to play. Coach loses the rest of the team's respect if he gives in to him. Pure B.S.!! He missed both Dallass games last year, he is useless to me. Bite the bullet and cut him regardless of the money. He has been allowed to have his way throughout his career or he wouldn't still be pulling this crap. Coach Fisher should have cut him with the Titans for his actions there.

Posted by: DIEUDALLASDOGSDIE | August 3, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

@Posted by: Nemo24601 | August 3, 2010 8:46 AM |

i could care less that golic did or did not pass the test by a few seconds. after watching him attempt it, it is obvious that the test is not that hard.

utterly silly? high school disciplinarian? i guess it's too much to ask a star player to report to camp in shape.

we should look forward to haynesworth taking himself out of the game every other play because he's gassed. or his knee hurts whenever he runs.

Posted by: zatoichi77 | August 3, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

The comments from AH mouth piece were funny and you should be on comedy central. LT wasnt paid a 100million to perform so I guess that you were right to say there are special rules for special players. When you are paid this kind of money you are expected to perform and perform AH has not. this is also why LT is in the NFL hall of fame and AH will only get there if he goes on a tour. Also if NE or the vikings want AH please ask them to call Mr. Synder and buy him out I am sure they will not turn them down. You call this conditioning test Candyass if this is the case what does this say for your client since he cant seem to pass this candyass conditioning test....I will let your dumbass figure it out

Posted by: browneyes1 | August 3, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan has put himself in a situation where he will look rediculous if he allows Haynesworth to play if he doesn't pass this test.

Posted by: bobilly2 | August 3, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

What did the coach use to keep Haynesworth's time in the 300-yard shuttle run? A Sundial!

Posted by: richs91 | August 3, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

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