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Woodson a Mole? Not Really, Zorn Says

After Monday's practice, Coach Jim Zorn responded to a suggestion that the Redskins had signed a former Giants quarterback solely to help game-plan for Sunday's season opener at New York, saying the Redskins have plans for Andre Woodson well beyond this weekend. He did add, however, that Woodson could be of service to Redskins coaches as they prepare for Sunday's game.

"I would say initially that wasn't the reason to have Andre Woodson here," Zorn said. "We looked at him a year ago. We drafted Colt [Brennan], they drafted Andre. With him getting released, we had the chance to take a look at him.... We have a chance with Andre now to develop him a little bit."

Woodson, a second-year quarterback back out of Kentucky, was released by the Giants on Saturday and signed to the Redskins' practice squad Sunday. Giants Coach Tom Coughlin told New York reporters Monday morning that he thought Woodson was wearing burgundy and gold to help the Redskins prepare for their Week 1 opponent.

"You mean, 'Why is he in Washington right now?'" Coughlin said, reportedly with a laugh. "It's pretty obvious why he's in Washington. There's no question that's what's going on."

Coughlin, whose team signed former Redskin Nehemiah Broughton to its practice squad out of Minnesota, went on to suggest - again, reportedly with a smile - that "the guy doesn't get in the door two seconds and he's in a classroom getting grilled." Told of Coughlin's remarks, Zorn said: "That's something that I'd be frustrated with, too. So I do understand that it makes it look like we're jumping on that. But that wasn't the major issue with the find."

Zorn said that while the Redskins won't "put him under the microscope," Woodson's familiarity with the Giants' offense certainly won't hurt.

"He might be able to help us a little bit. He knows their stuff. He certainly knew their snap count, just the obvious things." Zorn said.

Speaking for the first time about the Redskins' new quarterback, Zorn said he likes Woodson's size, presence and his ability to escape. The coach thinks Woodson "throws a pretty good deep ball."

Players were in shorts and shells for Monday's practice, as the team began installing its game plan for Sunday.

All 53 players practiced at full-speed Monday, including a handful who missed practices and the final preseason game at Jacksonville last week because of injury or illness, including defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth, cornerback Carlos Rogers, linebacker London Fletcher and safety Kareem Moore.

Zorn said he wasn't ready to name the starting receivers for Sunday's game. There's a chance that Malcolm Kelly - or maybe Devin Thomas - could start as flanker, opposite Santana Moss, which would allow Zorn to use Antwaan Randle El more out of the slot.

By Rick Maese  |  September 7, 2009; 3:30 PM ET
 
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I just noticed something really messed up about our schedule. We play Dallas on Sunday Dec. 27, on 6 days rest (we play the Giants on MNF the previous week). Dallas, on the other hand, is coming off a long week after playing the previous saturday and will have 8 days rest.

Now there are no doubt a lot of people out there that will surely say this means nothing...but they are simply wrong. At the end of a long season, having a couple extra days to rest and prepare for a team can mean everything. There's a reason that teams coming off the Thursday night game have a higher winning percentage the following week. There's a reason teams coming off a bye have a much higher winning percentage the following week. It's not a coincidence.

I've never in 30 years of watching football seen an example of a team playing a short week vs a team playing a long week. And this game could have major playoff implications on the line.

Anyone up for email-protesting the NFL to fix this?

Posted by: Barno1 | September 7, 2009 3:34 PM | Report abuse

First you get him in that classroom. Before he forgets everything that he knew.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | September 7, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse


Gints defensive plan for passing downs..

Double Moss, block down Cooley, stack Portis and see if JC has improved since last year.
If not, it will be the same as 08, Double Pump and Dump.. short or incomplete.

However, if JC has improved, (and the OLine allows him) he will make it to the 2nd Read and burn the Gints with Marko.

we can only hope..

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | September 7, 2009 3:42 PM | Report abuse

That was funny. Obvious things like snap count and etc.. Well, one thing's for certain, the Giants will be spreading the ball around.

Posted by: RedCherokee | September 7, 2009 3:46 PM | Report abuse

you may have a chance, at a change, since the NFL has "flex scheduling" in effect during December... This is where Teams with depth have an edge in the late part of the season...

Maybe change the Dallas game to a Monday night game.. At least Skins will be on a regular 7 day schedule but Dallas will then have 9 days rest...
good luck.
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I just noticed something really messed up about our schedule. We play Dallas on Sunday Dec. 27, on 6 days rest (we play the Giants on MNF the previous week). Dallas, on the other hand, is coming off a long week after playing the previous saturday and will have 8 days rest.

Now there are no doubt a lot of people out there that will surely say this means nothing...but they are simply wrong. At the end of a long season, having a couple extra days to rest and prepare for a team can mean everything. There's a reason that teams coming off the Thursday night game have a higher winning percentage the following week. There's a reason teams coming off a bye have a much higher winning percentage the following week. It's not a coincidence.

I've never in 30 years of watching football seen an example of a team playing a short week vs a team playing a long week. And this game could have major playoff implications on the line.

Anyone up for email-protesting the NFL to fix this?

Posted by: Barno1 | September 7, 2009 3:34 PM |

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | September 7, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

This is how they told the story on PFT:

Woodson struggled badly in New York during the preseason, but has size and a great track record in college. Conspiracy theorists will wonder if Woodson is only being signed to see what he knows about the Giants, Washington's Week One opponent.

Then again, former Associated Press-now-Fanhouse writer Dave Goldberg pointed out on Twitter that "the way [Woodson] played in exhibitions, he didn't seem to know much about the offense."

Posted by: talent_evaluator | September 7, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

JReid.. You missed it.. Couglin was sticking it to Woodson...

"You mean, 'Why is he in Washington right now?' " the coach said with a laugh. "It's pretty obvious why he's in Washington. There's no question that's what's going on. We'll see what transpires. It works both ways a little bit."

When Coughlin says "It works both ways a little bit." He was implying that Skins obtaining Woodson may work to the Giants advantage..

Word out of NYC is that Woodson never had a grasp of the offense... And the chatter now on the NYPost and blogs is he may only confuse the Skins more than assist them.

In the old NFL, a coach like George Allen would now start Woodson at QB, who one would expect to be "blood boiling" motivated after Coughlin's comments.... haha.. "North Dallas Forty" stuff..

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | September 7, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

It wasn't bad enough that the Gints cut him. Coughlin had to pile on and say we only want to pump Woodson for info.

Posted by: freakzilla | September 7, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Andre Woodson looks like a poor man's Jason Campbell. The INT that he threw against NE was just plain wretched. Great passing lane, safety very visible but he just locked down on the receiver and never saw the safety just waiting there.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 7, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

LeChiffe: You are a foolish man...
Woodson: OK OK, they go on one...

Posted by: ElYeah | September 7, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Cartwright miffed with role
By: JOHN KEIM
Examiner Staff Writer
09/07/09 3:41 PM EDT
Rock Cartwright is used to the role. Once again, though, that doesn’t mean he’s happy about it.
When the Redskins kept Marcus Mason, it left Cartwright as the No. 4 running back. It also leaves him as strictly a special teams player.
“He’s on all the special teams and that’s what he’s going to do,” Redskins running backs coach Stump Mitchell said of Cartwright.
That’s not what Cartwright wants to hear.
“I’ve been getting pushed back for the last four years now,” he said. “Marcus had a great preseason; he always has a great preseason. Now he takes my reps and I’m the fourth guy that’s just labeled as a special teams guy.
“[But] I saw it coming. When you see me in the third quarter of a preseason game – and I’m an eight-year vet and special teams captain – what does that tell you? Apparently I’m not a good running back. That’s how I feel. When I’ve gotten the opportunity I’ve shown what I’ve done. I’ll just do my thing on special teams.”
This is similar to 2006 when the Redskins traded for T.J. Duckett after Clinton Portis was hurt in the preseason. Last season, when Ladell Betts was hurt, the Redskins signed veteran Shaun Alexander. Both moved ahead of Cartwright.
“As far as getting toyed with, I think I have," Cartwright said. "You guys have seen it. Who hasn't seen it? There hasn’t been another place where … when the No. 1 guy goes down and the two guys behind him, one guy gets bumped up and the other gets bumped down. I’d rather just be with the special teams coach because I know I won’t get any carries."
Cartwright has carried the ball 12 times from scrimmage in the past three years combined. In 2005, he carried 27 times for 199 yards. But he’s also been the primary kick returner for three straight seasons.
“Rock is labeled as a special teams guy, that’s all he is,” Cartwright said. “That’s what they want to label me as, that’s fine. That’s how I butter my bread and that’s what I’ll continue to do. … My loyalty is to the team.”

Posted by: TWISI | September 7, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

So, who's funnier to watch when he's frustrated: Tom Coughlin, or the Ol' Ball Coach?

Gaping maw, or thrown visor?

Posted by: freakzilla | September 7, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

I think there's an obvious reason why Mason is ahead of Rock on the RB depth chart.

Mason is a better running back.

Posted by: freakzilla | September 7, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

yeah.. keep the furnace face and make him wear knee high white socks and rayon hot pants that are tight enough for a Physical without having to remove them.
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So, who's funnier to watch when he's frustrated: Tom Coughlin, or the Ol' Ball Coach?

Gaping maw, or thrown visor?

Posted by: freakzilla | September 7, 2009 4:13 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | September 7, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Andre Woodson looks like a poor man's Jason Campbell. The INT that he threw against NE was just plain wretched. Great passing lane, safety very visible but he just locked down on the receiver and never saw the safety just waiting there.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 7, 2009 4:11 PM

It's interesting because of the blind spots in which may have been created by being under pressure to throw. Either Woodson or his angry coach caused that pressure, I don't know. Maybe he needs to have his eyesight checked.

Posted by: RedCherokee | September 7, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Woodson had something like a 38 passer rating in the preseason. Which sucks. Is Daniel worse than this guy?

The Skins got Woodson for the same reason the jints got hasselback off of our roster a few years back. Info. Though with a 38 rating, the guy might not have much info ~~

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 7, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Hey Coughlin you hore, Redskins don't need your gameplan you useless punk!

You'll be Coughin up

Posted by: peaceful2008 | September 7, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Hey Coughlin you hore, Redskins don't need your gameplan you useless punk!

You'll be Coughin up blood by half time

Posted by: peaceful2008 | September 7, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

"Andre Woodson looks like a poor man's Jason Campbell."


And Campbell is a poor man's Doug Williams....

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 7, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

"Andre Woodson looks like a poor man's Jason Campbell."


And Campbell is a poor man's Doug Williams....

Posted by: MistaMoe

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And MistaMoe is a poor man's talent-evaluator

Posted by: peaceful2008 | September 7, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

and talent-evaluator is a poor man's RedDMV!

and Coughlin is a poor man's Fuselage (Fasel)?

Posted by: peaceful2008 | September 7, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

CRogers was practicing today, apparently running very well. Hope the calf injury is a thing ofthe past.

Posted by: frediefritz | September 7, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

For our Skins D:

How many sacks this year? 18

How many interceptions? 12 Any for TD's? 2 (pick six)

For our Skins O:

How many sacks allowed? 15

How many interceptions thrown? 14 How many TD's thrown? 20

Record I see is still 9-7, wait and see about a wildcard berth.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | September 7, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

ahhh.. the miracle injury recovery of Vets after preseason and the 2-a-days have concluded...
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CRogers was practicing today, apparently running very well. Hope the calf injury is a thing ofthe past.

Posted by: frediefritz | September 7, 2009 5:01 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | September 7, 2009 5:16 PM | Report abuse

ahhh.. the miracle injury recovery of Vets after preseason and the 2-a-days have concluded...

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | September 7, 2009 5:16 PM


On a related note, the Little Red Hen's neighbors all seem to be keenly interested in eating her bread.

Posted by: freakzilla | September 7, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

This is a little different...But i remember the giants signing antonio pierce and ever since then, Pierce has pointed out every running play to his defense. I'm sure he knows a little bit about the skin's defense as well. It's mostly a holdover from the Gregggugh Williams era...

It's all about operation "revenge at the meadow lands" this sunday. I've been waiting for this since last years emabarrassing beat down in front of a national audience.

Plus, i think this might be the skin's last game in the new jersey swamps. Too many bad memories...

Posted by: boricuabopper | September 7, 2009 5:50 PM | Report abuse

This is a little different...But i remember the giants signing antonio pierce and ever since then, Pierce has pointed out every running play to his defense. I'm sure he knows a little bit about the skin's defense as well. It's mostly a holdover from the Gregggugh Williams era...

It's all about operation "revenge at the meadow lands" this sunday. I've been waiting for this since last years emabarrassing beat down in front of a national audience.

Plus, i think this might be the skin's last game in the new jersey swamps. Too many bad memories...

Posted by: boricuabopper | September 7, 2009 5:51 PM | Report abuse

ahhh.. the miracle injury recovery of Vets after preseason and the 2-a-days have concluded...
++++++++++++++++++++++++++

CRogers was practicing today, apparently running very well. Hope the calf injury is a thing ofthe past.

Posted by: frediefritz | September 7, 2009 5:01 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | September 7, 2009 5:16 PM

Contract year!

Posted by: talent_evaluator | September 7, 2009 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Hey Barno, Mason runs a 4.67 40.
If this were an SAT answer it could be:
Mason is to blazing fast as peaceful2008 is to thoughtful intelligence.

Posted by: mack1 | September 7, 2009 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Cartwright miffed with role
By: JOHN KEIM
. . .

Posted by: TWISI | September 7, 2009

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Rock's got a better career rushing average with the Skins than Betts (4.4 to 4.1).

Heck, he's got a better career average than Portis's years in the red and yellow (also 4.1; Portis in Denver was 5.5).

From where Rock sits, I'd be just a tad pissed too.

Posted by: farstriker | September 7, 2009 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Hey Barno, Mason runs a 4.67 40.
If this were an SAT answer it could be:
Mason is to blazing fast as peaceful2008 is to thoughtful intelligence.

Posted by: mack1 |

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hey smack1, "thoughtful intelligence" as opposed to what other kinda intelligence?

Posted by: peaceful2008 | September 7, 2009 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Nonexistent intelligence.

Posted by: JesusFreakKaren | September 7, 2009 6:23 PM | Report abuse


fart-striker,

I think Redskin need to start passing more too. Not a half-arse attempt to pass and submit to a run on 3rd and 7. just let JC attempt to get a first down by passing on all three downs as needed. Once he gets into a rhythm, hopefully, and the defense begins to adjust, then running will be easier. I know I am sounding amateurish, but I see OTHER teams do that to us. As good as Redskins D is against the run, the teams, just pass and pass until we get tired or adjust to the passing games, then.....we lose.


Jesus Freakaren, here, I am turning the other (but)cheek for your freakness

Posted by: peaceful2008 | September 7, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

For our Skins D:

How many sacks this year? 18

How many interceptions? 12 Any for TD's? 2 (pick six)

For our Skins O:

How many sacks allowed? 15

How many interceptions thrown? 14 How many TD's thrown? 20

Record I see is still 9-7, wait and see about a wildcard berth.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan

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unfortunately, in the NFC 9-7 will only get you a bus ticket home. We need to win the division at 11-5 or 12-4, maybe a wildcard berth with 10-6, maybe

Posted by: peaceful2008 | September 7, 2009 6:28 PM | Report abuse

JesusFreakKaren, if Jesus saves, how come you cannot comment worth a penny?

Posted by: peaceful2008 | September 7, 2009 6:30 PM | Report abuse

peace-dude:

Woody Hayes: only three things can happen when you pass, and two of them are bad.


No, seriously, I like your hopeful game plan. Clearly Portis has been run into the ground here.

Posted by: farstriker | September 7, 2009 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Stupid college football overtime rules. If there's no way Miami and FSU can both lose tonight, it would at least be nice if there were a way that neither of them could win.

But noooo. We can't have ties in college, because then the world would end, or something.

Posted by: freakzilla | September 7, 2009 6:38 PM | Report abuse

farstriker,

I just think the old run, run then open up is some how game-planned for by the defenses these days. Also, my grammar is not fooling anyone no longer!?

Peace out and hail to the Redskins

weally, weally would like to see Giants' arse get crushed next week, weally!

Posted by: peaceful2008 | September 7, 2009 6:42 PM | Report abuse

my prediction with JC at QB:
3 and out
3 and out
3 and out
long bomb caught
punt
3 and out
3 and out
3 and out
long bomb and questionable interference
missed field goal
3 and out
3 and out ...

Post game. It wasn't JC's fault as much as the OL, Receivers, RBs, and the lady selling lemonade outside FedEx.

Posted by: hock1

my prediction of hock1's reaction to the game, regardless of the outcome or what transpires between the whistles...

wah, wah, wah, wah ,wah, wah, i should be the GM, wah , wah

Posted by: pabrian2003 | September 7, 2009 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Peace - you've seen the 'Skins pass more and more effectively in the preseason against first team defenses, partly because the pass protection is better allowing JC more time to scan the field, in addition to JC himself being better this year by far. He also has more weapons in that we have a minimum of 2 WR that can catch anything in their vicinity. Your pessimism of the passing game isn't appropriate, but we'll see on Sunday.

Posted by: JesusFreakKaren | September 7, 2009 6:51 PM | Report abuse

"There's a chance that Malcolm Kelly - or maybe Devin Thomas - could start as flanker, opposite Santana Moss, which would allow Zorn to use Antwaan Randle El more out of the slot."

I'd say that chance is 100%

Posted by: BC1963 | September 7, 2009 6:52 PM | Report abuse

"There's a chance that Malcolm Kelly - or maybe Devin Thomas - could start as flanker, opposite Santana Moss, which would allow Zorn to use Antwaan Randle El more out of the slot."

I'd say that chance is 100%

Posted by: BC1963

AND Zorn shoulda been running that lineup out there to get fully synched up beginning in the 3rd preseason game ... instead of waiting until the last week before the seasons starts.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | September 7, 2009 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Peace was hard at work between 6:25 and 6:30 fine-tuning his "retort" to JesusFreakKaren. And it still sucks.

Posted by: mack1 | September 7, 2009 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Peace - you've seen the 'Skins pass more and more effectively in the preseason against first team defenses, partly because the pass protection is better allowing JC more time to scan the field, in addition to JC himself being better this year by far. He also has more weapons in that we have a minimum of 2 WR that can catch anything in their vicinity. Your pessimism of the passing game isn't appropriate, but we'll see on Sunday.

Posted by: JesusFreakKaren |

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Karen, I am actually one of the optimists around here. I am just saying the Redskins need to pass more to establish a rhythm in the passing game before calling 1-2 yard run plays.

HTTR

smack1, I think Karen can defend herself, stop sucking up

Posted by: peaceful2008 | September 7, 2009 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Thank you mack1.

Posted by: JesusFreakKaren | September 7, 2009 7:31 PM | Report abuse

smack1, I think Karen can defend herself, stop sucking up

Posted by: peaceful2008 | September 7, 2009 7:26 PM

No one's worried about JFK around here. I thought what he was saying was that you can't defend yourself. But, you can learn.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | September 7, 2009 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Random Thoughts....

I hope the other Devin--Clark, the back up lineman--isn't on the field as much as the wide receiver Devin Thomas this season.

I hope Jason Campbell tosses for 3,800-4,100 yards this season. Okay, those numbers aren't even a stretch if the offense is opened up.

Once the jints move into their new stadium next season, the redskins will have the oldest venue in the NFC East.

Is anyone alarmed by the fact that Todd Collins played so little this preseason?

There was a time when NFL scouts would crowd about for an FSU v. Miami football game. Tonite's game will prove that time has long past.

The stillers v. titans will get the NFL season going right along with more talk of the AFC's media and on-field dominance.

Quick: which conference has more stars? AFC or NFC?

AFC, dummy.

Will someone please call and tell Shawne Merriman that there is nothing between a woman's legs worth ruining his career?

Tell Shawne that Tequila is a shot you take, not take shots at.

Rich Rodriguez's Michigan Wolverines looked very good on offense the other night.

If you changed the school color's from maize n' blue to orange and blue, you would've sworn they looked a lot like the mighty gators....

...almost.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 7, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse

I think Kelly is the guy. Randle e li nthe slot...and Marko Mitchell should get on the field...period. Red zone receiving corps between the 10 and 25 i really really want to see: Kelly, Mitchell, Thomas. Go up and Get it!!

I dropped Tory Holt and picked up MK12 in FF yesterday.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | September 7, 2009 7:37 PM | Report abuse

zzzzz, zzz, zzzzzz,

Posted by: peaceful2008 | September 7, 2009 7:45 PM | Report abuse

"....I really really want to see: Kelly, Mitchell, Thomas. Go up and Get it!!"


Agreed.

I think the 'triplets' are worth more as a unit than individual parts.

If they become a solid, game-changing receiving corp, then it doesn't really matter if Portis is ineffective as much as it would if they were not.

Get'em on the field and throw them the ball!

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 7, 2009 7:47 PM | Report abuse

mack and t-e, just make sure you are wearing protection, that's all I am sayin

Posted by: peaceful2008 | September 7, 2009 7:47 PM | Report abuse

For our Skins D:

How many sacks this year? 18

How many interceptions? 12 Any for TD's? 2 (pick six)

For our Skins O:

How many sacks allowed? 15

How many interceptions thrown? 14 How many TD's thrown? 20

Record I see is still 9-7, wait and see about a wildcard berth.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | September 7, 2009 5:11 PM

Hey man, I might be late getting to this, but this looks like a statistical nightmare that would land us at around 5-11 (not very goood).

Our defense gets 6 less sacks than last year? Dallas had almost 60. Lets try to be super ambitious and double our 2008 total and shoot for 48.

Now our offense giving up around 22 less sacks would be great, but where do you think Haynesworth plays, offensive tackle?! If we have only a modestly improved line and JC has a quicker release, lets shoot for giving up 30.

Did I somehow misinterpret your post?

Posted by: RomoLongballs | September 7, 2009 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Not sure what this is all about? They got a great LB from us and I'm sure he spilt his guts! I mean keep him if he knows so much!!! Kind of a stupid statement...

Posted by: LongTimeSkinsFan | September 7, 2009 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Also, last year we had 13 picks, albeit with no TDs. Maybe we shoot for 15 and 2 there, hoping our improved D-line get us more pics this year, rather than 1 less.

Posted by: RomoLongballs | September 7, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Funny thing about Cough's comments...like they have never done that to the skins? Signing a 3rd string QB and two LBs right after being released? I recall a LB and 3rd string QB being picked up and then they trounced us the first meeting of 05.....

Oh well it happens and it's part of the game so be it... :)

Posted by: leevi98 | September 7, 2009 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Funny thing about Cough's comments...like they have never done that to the skins?

Posted by: leevi98 | September 7, 2009 8:11 PM |

Yeah, today. They signed Nemo to their practice squad.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | September 7, 2009 8:17 PM | Report abuse

I want a pair of those Erik Estrada sunglasses.

Those are sweet.

Posted by: freakzilla | September 7, 2009 8:17 PM | Report abuse

I don't have any statistical goals for the D this year, but I do want them to hit Romo so hard he thinks he's doing the motorboat on Jessica Simpson.
Or should that be to Jessica Simpson? Strunk & White has no guidance for that particular usage of 'motorboating'.

Anywy, that's not a bad thing to wish on someone, right? Warm, soft, close your eyes and enjoy the feeling...

Posted by: daggar | September 7, 2009 8:18 PM | Report abuse

I've never understood the pros and cons of free agency...

Take Albert Haynesworth for example. He was the Defensive Player of the Year. He disrutped offensive lines, and runners feared him, but some say we paid too much.

I look at it like this...our starting D-tackle would have been Kedric Golston with a heavy dose of Anthony Montgomery. God bless em, but if I'm Adrian Perterson, I'm running at those guys.

I think free agency boils down to...if they work out you're a genius, if they bust, you're an idiot.

Posted by: rickyroge | September 7, 2009 8:19 PM | Report abuse

I don't have any statistical goals for the D this year

Posted by: daggar | September 7, 2009 8:18 PM

What are your statistical goals for yourself -- as a fan -- this year, daggar?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | September 7, 2009 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Two funny posts a day.

Yes, it counts if I'm the only one laughing -- why do you ask?

Posted by: daggar | September 7, 2009 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Anywy, that's not a bad thing to wish on someone, right? Warm, soft, close your eyes and enjoy the feeling...

Posted by: daggar | September 7, 2009 8:18 PM

It is when it's Haynesworth he's really motorboating. ugh, mental images be damned!

Posted by: RomoLongballs | September 7, 2009 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Who's been gone into hibernation since the beginning of this thread? Totally..

Posted by: RedCherokee | September 7, 2009 8:33 PM | Report abuse

It was just a WAG Romo. I do think we'll have more short passes to MK and MM and our opposition will throw to their backs and TE's as that seems to be a weakness of our LB's. The numbers are probably way off, just a conversation starter really.

Posted by: 1965skinsfan | September 7, 2009 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Two funny posts a day.

Yes, it counts if I'm the only one laughing -- why do you ask?

Posted by: daggar | September 7, 2009 8:24 PM

As an evaluator, I have to judge how well you achieve your goals. You set the bar pretty low. You're dogging it. You're capable of more than that. That's 15 minutes work for dcsween. It would be a lifetime struggle for barno or zjfr, but you could do better than that just by showing up.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | September 7, 2009 8:37 PM | Report abuse

dag and Romo,

excuse the innocence, but what is warm and soft, Jessica or Albert? or both?

Posted by: peaceful2008 | September 7, 2009 8:37 PM | Report abuse

peaceful2008:

Because JESUS wasn't into money. Remember, he threw the money-changers out of the temple on the Sabbath. So a penny analogy is not good in this circumstance. Peace, peaceful.

Posted by: glawrence007 | September 7, 2009 8:41 PM | Report abuse

MistaMoe, you funny.

But I think that you are right on target about the value of the triplets as a unit. Zorn showed a little of this potential with the formations he used in the preseason, particularly in the New England game.

The way last year went, it was inconceivable to think that we might ever be deep at WR. Now it appears to be possible.

Posted by: rgj21 | September 7, 2009 8:48 PM | Report abuse

It comes to mind a certain LaVar Arrington talking about taking the playbook to NY. No sympathy for the G-men. The shoe is on the other foot.

Posted by: captmrgn03 | September 7, 2009 8:52 PM | Report abuse

peace,
your homework assignment is to watch Wedding Crashers, for two reasons:
1) It'll explain Motorboating
$) It's a decent waste of an hour and a half
C) You won't have much innocence left afterwards

See, underpromise and overdeliver -- that's three reasons!

TE - I'd promise more, but I wanna emphasize quality over quantity. Still working my way through that sprained pinky from the first few minutes of training camp.

Posted by: daggar | September 7, 2009 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Of course Washington would like to benefit from querying Woodson on the Giants' game plan. Who wouldn't? Football teams do this all of the time. Why is this even news these days?

Now, as to how the Redskins' defense should play the Giants, it is obvious the Giants will try to run the ball down their throats. Maybe putting eight guys in the box and daring the Giants to beat them with their young receivers would be a good strategy to use. It wouldn't hurt to blitz early and try to rattle Manning - especially with Haynesworth and Orakpo on the line.

When the Redskins have the ball they need to hit a few deep passes. The Giants will be expecting plenty of Clinton Portis and Campbell can break that stuff up early by getting off some deep passes. I like starting with three receivers: Moss, Thomas and ARE. These are the fast guys who can get deep quick. Bring in Kelly on short yardage and goal line situations. The Giants' secondary is suspect. Their deficiencies have been masked well by a good, deep defensive line that frequently substitutes players. If the Redskins' offensive line can give Campbell time, the secondary can be exploited. The way to wear them down is with a no-huddle offense so the Giants cannot make substitutions.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | September 7, 2009 8:55 PM | Report abuse

The only reason foreskins signed Woodson is so they can pump him for info about jints. Woodson couldn't learn the play book in two years so how can he help now.Giants will kick foreskin butt.GO BIG BLUE.

Posted by: unkork | September 7, 2009 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Hey, where's haikuman--don't he know it's showtime this week?

Posted by: farstriker | September 7, 2009 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Daggar, you old sailor you! I have literally watched that stairway motorboat scene in wedding crashers about 378 times. Vince VAughn goes from angry to giddy in half a facial expression. Brilliant.

Posted by: chrislarry | September 7, 2009 9:20 PM | Report abuse

I want a pair of those Erik Estrada sunglasses.

Those are sweet.

Posted by: freakzilla | September 7, 2009 8:17 PM |

Sweeter than apple pie?

Posted by: JesusFreakzilla | September 7, 2009 9:26 PM | Report abuse

The Yanks are winning....

...again.

I'm a man serving two masters.

The pinstriped Girardi led gang has abused the AL East for the past month.

I'm hoping the burgandy 'n gold works some of the same kind of magic on the NFC East.

October will be the cruelest month: if you're not a Yankee fan.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 7, 2009 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JesusFreakzilla

Funny!

Posted by: talent_evaluator | September 7, 2009 9:31 PM | Report abuse

October will be the cruelest month: if you're not a Yankee fan.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 7, 2009 9:29 PM |

Fraid not friendo.

APRIL is the cruellest month, breeding
Lilacs out of the dead land, mixing
Memory and desire, stirring
Dull roots with spring rain.

Posted by: JesusFreakzilla | September 7, 2009 9:36 PM | Report abuse

Erin Andrews is working the sidelines at the FSU v. Miami game.

And it's my understanding the good people at ESPN made sure the field was so neatly trimmed that not even a camel would stub its toe.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 7, 2009 9:40 PM | Report abuse

RedSkinHeadKKK,

Agree with both strategies. It seems to me that there is a temporal asymmetry in the game to be taken advantaged of.

Early in the game the offensive line has more energy to pass-protect. The defense has more energy early on to play the run. So pass early and run late makes sense.

Somehow the Gibbs-style has worked to Redskins' disadvantage this past decade or so. We seem to feel indifferent to wasting plays just to have an even pass/run ratio. You can keep the total game pass/run close to even over the ENTIRE game by more passes early and more runs late.

Posted by: peaceful2008 | September 7, 2009 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Interesting...me, I'm just happy that the game is on FOX this week.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | September 7, 2009 9:45 PM | Report abuse

"The way last year went, it was inconceivable to think that we might ever be deep at WR."


The other inconceivable thing is that the FO's has added some youth (they jettisoned Jansen, Kendell) to what was a creaky offensive line:

Edwin Williams
Devin Clark
Wil Montegomery
Anthony Baptiste

All young guys who can play multiple positions.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 7, 2009 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Good point Moe, and one that is probably widely overlooked....those sturdy O-lines don't come out of nowhere.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | September 7, 2009 9:49 PM | Report abuse

All young guys who can play multiple positions.

Posted by: MistaMoe
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We seem to have enough people on the offensive line to cover the entire Sumakatra positions...

Since we r on the topic of Erin Andrews.....

Posted by: peaceful2008 | September 7, 2009 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Why would anyone want to be a mole on the NY Giants?

Me, I'd rather be a mole on Erin....

Posted by: peaceful2008 | September 7, 2009 9:55 PM | Report abuse

"...those sturdy O-lines don't come out of nowhere."


Let's hope they don't have to play anytime soon.

And let's hope next year's draft adds some stud level left tackle talent to that group.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 7, 2009 9:58 PM | Report abuse

My first ever comment - -
HTTR !

Posted by: mussdd | September 7, 2009 10:07 PM | Report abuse

In the immortal words of nate, mussdd--

welcome!

Posted by: farstriker | September 7, 2009 10:14 PM | Report abuse

My first ever comment - -
HTTR !

Posted by: mussdd | September 7, 2009 10:07 PM |

Aye Matie, and it be a good one.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | September 7, 2009 10:40 PM | Report abuse

u funny mr moe..lmao..thks..
++++++

Erin Andrews is working the sidelines at the FSU v. Miami game.

And it's my understanding the good people at ESPN made sure the field was so neatly trimmed that not even a camel would stub its toe.

Posted by: MistaMoe | September 7, 2009 9:40 PM

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | September 7, 2009 10:51 PM | Report abuse

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/09/07/nflpa-chief-smith-on-goodell-i-was-at-last-meeting-he-was-not/

Lockout info any1?

I heard on the radio that the NFL will blackout 30% of their games and that eventually NFL games will only be seen via Pay-Per View.

Then again I once heard a self-appointed politician--*cough* Mayor Reid--say that Marcus Mason will not make the team.

Posted by: Vicc | September 7, 2009 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Edwin Williams
Devin Clark
Wil Montegomery
Anthony Baptiste

All young guys who can play multiple positions.

Posted by: MistaMoe

Currently Devin Clarke is playing resume roulette.

Montgomery and Williams can play multiple OLine positions as long as they aren't OT.

Formerly Fat Mike Williams and D'Anthony are being depended upon as backup OTs....

Which reminds me...John Corcoran, in a column considerably less enthusiastic than last weeks, refers to the Redskins "Final 53" as "Unbalanced."

http://www.nfldraftdog.com/nfl-team-columns/washington-redskins.html

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Posted by: TheCork | September 7, 2009 11:22 PM | Report abuse

hey smack1, "thoughtful intelligence" as opposed to what other kinda intelligence?

Posted by: peaceful2008

"Military Intelligence?"

With a salute to George Carlin, RIP

Posted by: TheCork | September 7, 2009 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Congrats you w@nker skins fans, ya got yourselves a great 3rd string QB! Your great OZ of an owner Mr Snycker really knows what he's doing. LOL if he has to play. And your saviour Chase is NO enjoying the Latin Quarter. It's going to be a long season. Love Big Jim's hair cut though!

Posted by: help4mac | September 8, 2009 3:05 AM | Report abuse

Never did get why dipsh*t fans of other teams post on here...I don't wanna be on this board half the time and I'm a Skins fan, why loiter on one that belongs to a team you don't like? You really can't find something else to do?

Anyway, good stuff Cork. Pashos came off the market quickly, but hopefully the Skins find another upgrade at tackle.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 8, 2009 5:37 AM | Report abuse

Pashos came off the market quickly, but hopefully the Skins find another upgrade at tackle.

Posted by: brownwood26 | September 8, 2009 5:37 AM

I take them at their word: that they're satisfied with what they got. I don't think they'll look outside unless the Giants prove them wrong. If they can get by the Giants, then they'll stick with what they got until they get an injury to Samuels or Heyer or someone drops into their lap like Hall did last year.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | September 8, 2009 6:01 AM | Report abuse

Honk, honk!

Posted by: talent_evaluator | September 8, 2009 6:10 AM | Report abuse

Rock needs to quit crying and suit up and do what the team needs him to do! You are not losing any money on your paycheck don't become a distraction. Marcus Mason has earned his way on this team with his play, period! Betts would be cut, but it would cost 3 million on the cap right now and we couldn't sign anyone during the season if we needed. The Woodson thing is all head games that teams do with each other, the Skins are not the 1st or will they be the last.

Posted by: BeltwayBoy | September 8, 2009 9:39 AM | Report abuse

If teams are allowed to sign any practice squad players from any other team on any given week, then why don't teams just keep an open squad slot available and keep signing players from teams that they will play on their schedule for the following week with the hope of gaining "valuable" information each time? Is there a restriction against continuously signing other team's practice squad players each week when you have a spot available?

Posted by: JohnWWW | September 8, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

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