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You make the call on LJ

By Cindy Boren  |  November 9, 2009; 3:41 PM ET
 
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You almost got me there Cindy. I almost voted no, but refuse to vote on these dumb polls.

Stop them already.

Posted by: Curzon417 | November 9, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Adding LJ is like wearing sunglasses at Chernobyl.

Posted by: Rypien11 | November 9, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

DHall on the ATL sidelines looked like a MS-13 Gang Intiation.

You saw how they slowly surronded him so he had no escape and the Strength dude grabbed him so he couldn't escape. Then they waited for the gang leader (Smith) to throw the 1st blow.......

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 9, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Long lost video of 4thFloor from his playing days....he's number 52 in "maroon"....

http://www.mahalo.com/football-player-tackles-teammate

Posted by: 4-12 | November 9, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

If he clears waivers and he's cheap then yes, if he has to be claimed or if anybody else wants him and he costs more than a vet min. contract then no. I think I would prefer the re-signing of Mason and Alridge though and letting them actually touch the ball a few times each.

Posted by: zjfr2 | November 9, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

ladell has earned a decent chance after yesterday's effort.

Posted by: mikeysuperdons | November 9, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Ladell Betts ran hard. We don't need LJ. We DO need some corners/safeties that can tackle.

Posted by: moo21 | November 9, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

"PFT has learned that Roger Goodell is incensed by the punch that Atlanta Falcons Head Coach Mike Smith threw at Deangelo Hall over the weekend. The fine that Smith is facing, rumored to be in the area of 100K is nothing compared to Smith having to listen to 4th talk about his glory day's, and the 'alleged block' that he claims he put on Darnell Dockett. Stay tuned.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 9, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

LJ = Oh good Lord No.

Posted by: will_ga | November 9, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Need a third possible answer --
No forking way ever!!!

Posted by: Vic1 | November 9, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

I've already seen the video....NEva me...More motivation to get me to post some pics.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 9, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

4-12 - I'm not sure it's even math, more like a zen koan a la "if a tree falls in the forest. . ."
It is something to cry . . . er. . . meditate on. . .for example

"If the Skins score 21 points but lose the game do I still get my Papa John's pizza deal?"

"If the Skins win a game and there is no one there to see it does it count?"

"If the Skins lose a game and no one is there to see it is that really a win?"

"Is it possible for two black hole football franchises to play on the same field without causing a rip in the space time continum?" (to find out watch Skins v. Raiders)


Posted by: sfskin | November 9, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

LJ on offense and Haynesworth on defense? Are we trying to build and anger management all-star team?

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 9, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

What's the argument for getting LJ here, because I don't see any that make sense.

If you think we're making a playoff run you're delusional, so that leaves us in a situation where we want to rebuild and try out young players. If we spend any money at all it should be on young players that might turn into something usable.

What is LJ going to do that Betts and Rock can't do, behind out line? What the heck is anyone voting yes thinking?

Posted by: REXskins | November 9, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

LJ on offense and Haynesworth on defense? Are we trying to build and anger management all-star team?

Posted by: Original_etrod | November 9, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Dude, we're so winning the 2005 super bowl!!!

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 9, 2009 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone get sacked more than Aaron Rogers? Sacked sex times by the Bucs yesterday and had been sacked 10 more times than JC going into yesterdays games.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/11/09/mccarthy-pass-protection-problems-are-correctable/

Posted by: Curzon417 | November 9, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

sfskin- I see. I was taking the literal question of "What point differntial are the Skins capable of coming back from," and realizing it has no answer.

Unless it's a negative number.

But a negative number would imply the Skins coming from ahead to lose, which would mean they actually had a lead.

Aha! Now I see what you meant by "existential."

Posted by: 4-12 | November 9, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone get sacked more than Aaron Rogers? Sacked sex times by the Bucs yesterday and had been sacked 10 more times than JC going into yesterdays games.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/11/09/mccarthy-pass-protection-problems-are-correctable/

Posted by: Curzon417 | November 9, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Freudian slip there?

Posted by: alex35332 | November 9, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

No, I think Ladell can be better anway and should be the starter.

Of course if bringing in LJ is an absolutely no-win, lousy, team destroying move, Snyer will have him here in no time!

Posted by: Redskinrex | November 9, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone get sacked more than Aaron Rogers? Sacked sex times by the Bucs yesterday and had been sacked 10 more times than JC going into yesterdays games.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/11/09/mccarthy-pass-protection-problems-are-correctable/

Posted by: Curzon417 | November 9, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

lol, you wouldn't be looking at porn in your other window would you?

Posted by: zjfr2 | November 9, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

thanks alex, nothing like being exposed on RI...er...nevermind...

Posted by: Curzon417 | November 9, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone get sacked more than Aaron Rogers? Sacked sex times by the Bucs yesterday and had been sacked 10 more times than JC going into yesterdays games.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/11/09/mccarthy-pass-protection-problems-are-correctable/

Posted by: Curzon417 | November 9, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Ha, you should check out the Packers fans. They're slamming Rodgers. They're saying it's his fault for holding onto the ball too long. They also accuse him of locking onto his receivers. They've suggested that his high QB rating is because he doesn't throw the ball and just dumps it off on checkdown passes. Sound familiar?

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 9, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

The 20% of people who voted yes should be rounded up and shipped to Dallas.

Posted by: Salinas1 | November 9, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Curzon ... thanks for the relief ... however unintentional, maybe.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 9, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

This just in from Redskins Park:

Laron Landry was so upset after they arrived back at the park last night about the scuffle in Atlanta that he got in his Hummer and attempted to drive back to Atlanta to confront Head coach mike smith. He was pulled over in Pennsylvania this morning for speeding.

I guess Laron is staying true to himself he took the wrong angle to get to Atlanta and ended up in Pennsylvania trying to deliver a late hit.

Posted by: GreatOne1 | November 9, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

the sad thing is i don't think Larry Johnson would want to come to us. I really don't want him either.

Posted by: TBADOW | November 9, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

I almost voted no, but refuse to vote on these dumb polls.

Sacked sex times

thanks alex, nothing like being exposed on RI...er...nevermind...

Posted by: Curzon417 | November 9, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Funny collection Curzon, you almost touched them all, but you forgot.....

PANTIES!

Posted by: ksquare | November 9, 2009 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Are we really even considering this? What would be the upside, besides less research needed for national sports pundits' lazy one-liners.

Posted by: OffseasonChamps | November 9, 2009 4:15 PM | Report abuse

This just in from Redskins Park:

Laron Landry was so upset after they arrived back at the park last night about the scuffle in Atlanta that he got in his Hummer and attempted to drive back to Atlanta to confront Head coach mike smith. He was pulled over in Pennsylvania this morning for speeding.

I guess Laron is staying true to himself he took the wrong angle to get to Atlanta and ended up in Pennsylvania trying to deliver a late hit.

Posted by: GreatOne1 | November 9, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Best post I've read in weeks

Posted by: zjfr2 | November 9, 2009 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Now way the team should sign Larry Johnson but I would be delighted to hear that they are working out every offensive tackle available to find one that can help them. I mean, Heyer was bad before he was gimpy and now he is gimpy. Mike Williams was slow defending against those speed rushers and now he has an ankle injury to slow him down further. LJ hasn't played but the knock against him in Cincy was injury-prone. I am talking insurance here. I don't want to know how bad an offensive line can get and I certainly don't want the Redskins to demonstrate it. Come on, Vinny, get off you lazy a$s and sign an offensive tackle.

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 9, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

The 20% of people who voted yes should be rounded up and shipped to Dallas.

Posted by: Salinas1
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Posted by: REXskins | November 9, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Just came over ESPN. LJ has been signed by the Redskins. Given a contract extention, 5 years 83 million. We're going to the Superbowl!

Posted by: hackeynut | November 9, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

There is a lot that Rodgers has in common with Campbell, though Rodgers is clearly the better player. They both have awful OL's, so-so RBs, coaches reluctant to keep guys in for pass pro and yes, they both hold onto the ball too long.

Rodgers has primo receivers, especially Donald Driver, an ageless wonder.

WR Greg Jennings is a lot like Moss, including the drops. Yesterday, one pass slipped through his hands on a deep play near the goal line, ricocheted off a defenders pads and got picked.

Rodgers and Campbell are both good runners -- that is an important part of both players games.

Perhaps the biggest difference is that Rodgers seems to have a better ability once a play breaks down -- a lot of sandlot looking stuff.

Rodgers is QB on both my FF teams, I have Jennings on both and Driver on one -- so I've been watching the Packers out of the corner of my eye.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 9, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

"Does anyone get sacked more than Aaron Rogers? Sacked sex times by the Bucs yesterday"

Sex times? I don't even want to think about that.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 9, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

i heard the skins offered a third round pick for LJ. the chiefs politely turned it down, pointing out that since they had released LJ, no compensation is required. vinnie told them to keep it since he doesnt see any good punters on the draft board for next year.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | November 9, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

The league should fine ATL's HC - for being a bonehead.

1. It were LL who laid the wood on Matt Ryan, not Hall.

2. Punching a player is ridiculous. They wear a helmet and pads. How are you going to hurt them? Didn't Smith learn anything from the Oregon/Noisy State incident?

I hear that after the game Smith sent Hall flowers - not to make up with him but as a token of appreciation for letting Turner run right by him. LMAO.

Posted by: MrPink | November 9, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

I'm pretty sure somebody will sign Larry if only because of an injury. Frankly, I can't tell if the guy can still play. Maybe he's Cedric Benson II.

Maybe not. Big power backs that accumulate a massive amount of carries over a few seasons often blow a tire and are never the same again.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 9, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

The all important April standings are in

#1 Tampa Bay
#2 St. Louis
#3 Kansas City
#4 Detroit
#5 Cleveland
#6 your own Washington Redskins

If KC wins another game we could jump to #5, they beat us head to head

Posted by: noonefromtampa | November 9, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Everyone needs to stop all the criticizing and negativity of Daniel Snyder before he puts the Sheeny Curse on everyone. Although he essentially put the Sheeny Curse on everyone the day he bought the team and hired Vinnie "Greaseball" Cerrato to run the operations.

Posted by: ElBigChroizo | November 9, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

The all important April standings are in

#1 Tampa Bay
#2 St. Louis
#3 Kansas City
#4 Detroit
#5 Cleveland
#6 your own Washington Redskins

If KC wins another game we could jump to #5, they beat us head to head

Posted by: noonefromtampa | November 9, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

If you're too fragile to practice, you're too fragile to play. CP should be on the bus out of town while there's value in his contract.

He has begun the downside of his career. He's been a great running back for the 'SKINS and his backfield blocking has become legendary, but all those hits take their toll.

Give the man respect and a break by putting him on a team with a first-class o-line and let him finish his career with a flourish.

Posted by: glawrence007 | November 9, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

I'm with the "Give Betts the ball and spell him with McIntosh" crowd. The last thing our 'Skins need is another malcontent in the locker room. Do they ever learn? No. :o

Posted by: blackjack65 | November 9, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

anyone want tickets to the broncos game? in the upper section. Just think you will also get to see our new RB make his debut, and I have Saints tickets too.

Posted by: connskins | November 9, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

funny how things work:

That weak a$$ Zorn is too stubborn to give other players a chance to play so injuries is forcing his hand.

**Portis is injured= Betts/Cartwright plays
**M. Williams is injured= Levi Jones plays
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Here's who needs to become injured:
**Campbell= Collins plays
**M. Kelly or D. Thomas = Marko Mitchell plays
**Andre Carter= Orakpo play full-time DE
**Randle El= anyone else returning punts
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Not wishing player become injured but it seems like the only way that other players will get a change to play, which is ridiculous

Posted by: kingpenn1 | November 9, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

I'm with the "Give Betts the ball and spell him with McIntosh" crowd. The last thing our 'Skins need is another malcontent in the locker room. Do they ever learn? No. :o

Posted by: blackjack65 | November 9, 2009 4:40 PM |

You is in a crowd of one, meatball. McI is a LB, not a RB.

Posted by: MrPink | November 9, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Rodgers looks to me like a scrambler, one of those guys that likes to hold the ball and run around in the backfield in hopes that somebody will come open. Jason isn't much of a scrambler -- his strength is taking off for the first down when the opportunity presents.

Both guys take too many sacks. It's not a fatal disease, as Ben Roethlisberger has demonstrated. Long as you avoid INTs...

Posted by: Samson151 | November 9, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

**Andre Carter=

Carters playing great....fyi...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 9, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

If you're too fragile to practice, you're too fragile to play. CP should be on the bus out of town while there's value in his contract.

He has begun the downside of his career. He's been a great running back for the 'SKINS and his backfield blocking has become legendary, but all those hits take their toll.

Give the man respect and a break by putting him on a team with a first-class o-line and let him finish his career with a flourish.

Posted by: glawrence007 | November 9, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse


CP26 is unmoveable.

His contract is untradeable.

It goes beyond whether or not a team could use him or whether he's got something left in the tank. No team out there is going to go to the trouble of trying to fit his contract into their cap situation.

The best we can do is find a young talented back and create a committee backfield.

Maybe in that situation CP will experience a small rennaissance a-la Fred Taylor when MJD came into the picture.

Posted by: p1funk | November 9, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Hellified No!

Posted by: Predator48 | November 9, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

#1 Tampa Bay
#2 St. Louis
#3 Kansas City
#4 Detroit
#5 Cleveland
#6 your own Washington Redskins

If KC wins another game we could jump to #5, they beat us head to head

Posted by: noonefromtampa | November 9, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Cleveland still has to play the Chiefs and the Lions.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | November 9, 2009 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Both guys take too many sacks. It's not a fatal disease, as Ben Roethlisberger has demonstrated. Long as you avoid INTs...

Posted by: Samson151 | November 9, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Ben throws a ton of INTs but he throws them deep and has a great defense. Ben plays a high risk high reward style of ball. It tends to work in his favor since he'll just get the ball back in 3 downs anyway.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 9, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

If KC wins another game we could jump to #5, they beat us head to head

Posted by: noonefromtampa | November 9, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

And KC plays the Raiders still.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | November 9, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Both guys take too many sacks. It's not a fatal disease, as Ben Roethlisberger has demonstrated. Long as you avoid INTs...

Posted by: Samson151 | November 9, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Ben throws a ton of INTs but he throws them deep and has a great defense. Ben plays a high risk high reward style of ball. It tends to work in his favor since he'll just get the ball back in 3 downs anyway.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 9, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse


Ben also plays well in the clutch. He can stand in and deliver when the game is close.

Our guy, on the other hand, plays his best when we're down by 20 and he goes on a stat-padding TD drive to boost his passer rating.

Like I said before, few offenses in the league are as solid as ours playing against half-arsed defenses that are protecting a huge lead.

Posted by: p1funk | November 9, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Very interesting comments -- From FootballOutsiders (Free contect)
"Nov 2009
JASON CAMPBELL'S SACK RATE
The guys at Turf Show Times are wondering whether Jason Campbell might be a good fit for them next year as a free agent.

They raised several concerns about Campbell in the piece.

Concerns I have about Campbell: 1) How does the high sack rate impact his future, 2) He'll turns 29 next season, a year younger than Kyle Boller, is that too old for a rebuilding team, and 3) Is he enough?

I'm not sure about points two or three, but point one is pretty easy to look at. I went to the wonderful Play Index at pro-football-reference.com to create a list of similar players to Campbell.

Campbell has 228 attempts and 25 sacks through eight games, yielding a sack rate of 9.9 percent. If we double those totals, he'd be at 456 attempts and 50 sacks for a full season. To find similar quarterbacks to Campbell, I instructed the Play Index to find every quarterback since 1980 who had been sacked between 45 and 55 times in a season while throwing between 430 and 480 attempts.

The resulting list includes a few scrubs (David Carr, Tim Couch) and a LOT of good quarterbacks.

It's a list that Campbell's numbers, so far this year, belong in. He has a 66.2 completion percentage, higher than any of the quarterbacks on the list, while his 7.36 yards per attempt place him eighth out of 18. If you prefer to use p-f-r's Adjusted Net Yards per Attempt, he ranks ninth. (On the other hand, his adjusted yards per attempt, which doesn't include the effects of sacks, would be 15th.)

Looking at comparable seasons suggests that Campbell's performance this year is a positive indicator of his ability to play a successful quarterback going forward, perception be damned.

Posted by: Bill Barnwell on 09 Nov 2009

Posted by: Samson151 | November 9, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Signing Larry Johnson would be really, really DUMB (which means they'll probably do it).

Give Betts the ball, Cartwright as a change of pace.

And please, PLEASE get #84 in the game more! He WILL make a difference. The guy is big, physical receiver with great hands... isn't that what they've been looking for?

Posted by: JBuss | November 9, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

**Andre Carter=

Carters playing great....fyi...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 9, 2009 4:47 PM
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He plays great for 1-2 plays a game, but he is too often stopped at the LOS by a single blocker

Posted by: kingpenn1 | November 9, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

p1funk: "Our guy, on the other hand, plays his best when we're down by 20 and he goes on a stat-padding TD drive to boost his passer rating."

Recommend you read the post from footballoutsiders directly above.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 9, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

#1 Tampa Bay
#2 St. Louis
#3 Kansas City
#4 Detroit
#5 Cleveland
#6 your own Washington Redskins

If KC wins another game we could jump to #5, they beat us head to head

Posted by: noonefromtampa | November 9, 2009 4:36 PM |

Tenn could be in the mix if they finish 2-14. Of the 5 teams, only 2 figure to be QB looking - StL and Cleve. Cleve actually has 2 starting QBs and both have been sucking wind. On the other hand, since Bradford got injured the QBs in the draft look pretty ordinary.

Posted by: MrPink | November 9, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Ben also plays well in the clutch. He can stand in and deliver when the game is close.

Our guy, on the other hand, plays his best when we're down by 20 and he goes on a stat-padding TD drive to boost his passer rating.

Like I said before, few offenses in the league are as solid as ours playing against half-arsed defenses that are protecting a huge lead.

Posted by: p1funk | November 9, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, and that's usually his only good drive of the game. He'll win the game!!...with a stat line of 186 yards 1 TD and 1 INT. Nobody cares what he did in the first 3 quarters.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | November 9, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

I assume that if next season plays out with no CBA and is considered an "uncapped" year, the Redskins could hypothetically cut their whole roster and take the would be "cap hit" on everyone in one year- next season. The team could be out of salary cap hell and have a clean slate before next season! If this can truly happen, it is exactly what every Redskins fan should be pulling for right now. NO CBA! While I'm dreaming, maybe The Danny can come to his senses and hire a real team president for next season to set up the whole operation- Tony Dungy comes to mind. Dungy then hires a true GM for this very attractive job- all draft choices including a top 5 pick, a completely clean salary cap slate, best division in football in the nations capital with rich football tradition, a super rich owner that will spend the dough, and the best fans in the NFL!. Mr. Reid- can you tell us how an uncapped year would work with regard to getting rid of bad contracts? Most believe the redskins would overspend for a quick fix in an uncapped year and I'm hoping for the opposite- CUT EVERY BAD CONTRACT and take the hit! Is this possible?

Posted by: Chris2172 | November 9, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Chris, but the NFC East is no longer the best division in football.

Posted by: Curzon417 | November 9, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Who do we play next week?

Not that I care or anything.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | November 9, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Recommend you read the post from footballoutsiders directly above.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 9, 2009 4:59 PM |

Thought we had moved on from the Campbell stat BS but I guess there are a few diehards left. Didn't Boswell trot out his own set of stats to demonstrate what a piker the dude is?

Posted by: MrPink | November 9, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

REDSKINS SUCK! REDSKINS SUCK! REDSKINS SUCK!
Oh great JC and the gang played inspired football in the 2nd half! We are moving in the right direction!!!! It was garbage time! The offensive stats were padded once the Falcons had the game in hand and went into prevent defense. REDSKINS SUCK! REDSKINS SUCK! REDSKINS SUCK! How dreadful is Chad Rhinehart that he can't get activated on game day when we got Stephon Heyer and Mike "The Human Turnstile" Williams as our book end tackles and something called Anthony Baptiste playing meaningful minutes. D. Hall is a punk that deserves to get punched in the mouth. He's nothing more than a loud mouthed punk that got pwned by a 50 year old man. Landry is a coward that can't take getting run over by a diesel truck and like to fly all over the field whiffing away. I'm glad that the Club Med Training Camp put these guys in the right mind set. Hail To The Redskins!

Posted by: natsfan007 | November 9, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

People up here want Danny to eat a ton of money associated with bad contracts (Zorn, Portis, etc).

While I appreciate the thought, I'm guessing Danny is going to be more financially challenged than he has been in a long while, and that a new fiscal discipline might be in the offing. He's got some major commitments on his books right now and a few more in the near future, a likely high draft pick + an expensive coach + an expensive GM + Hall + Albert + + +

Demand for his product is less than I can ever recall, and he has lots of seats to fill since he has the biggest capacity venue in the league.

I suspect Danny is feeling a squeeze right now, unrelated to Aaron Rodgers and his sex sacks.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 9, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

It's a tremendous indictment of the state of the league that there are five teams that might be ranked below the Redskins right now.

If I were a power ranker kind of a person, I would not rank the Skins above a team that beat them. That would imply that if the teams played again, the Skins would win, which I do not believe. Hell, I think the Skins would lose a rematch against the Bucs right now.

So I'd have the Skins ranked just below the Bucs, Lions and Cheeves -- which is making my tummy hurt because I just reminded myself that we lost to the friggin' Lions and Cheeves -- in a group with the Browns and Raiders. I wouldn't have the Skins ranked better than fourth-worst team.

In related news, I am glad I'm not a fan of the Rams. Ha ha ha! Those guys are awful!

Posted by: NateinthePDX | November 9, 2009 5:15 PM | Report abuse

Why are we even having this discussion right now!!!! Can we first worry about our line, or maybe even getting a win...Betts looked more impressive than CP has all year.This organization should really be ashamed of themselves.

Oh, and Landry is a P**SY!!!!!

Posted by: beigebandit | November 9, 2009 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Our run to APRIL #1 couldn't have come at a better time. No cap next year. On defense:

We need a SEAN TAYLOR replacement at FS, if that is at all possible, a CARLOS ROGERS and FRED SMOOT replacement at CB, a BRIAN ORAKPO OLB replacement, and unless we can light a fire under ANTHONY MONTGOMERY, a DT replacement.

Assuming VINNIE "The bag-man" is still in the organization - a BIG if, I might add - the draft will once again be tilted toward the defense, so with a top five pick in every round but the third, we should be able to get four guys that will make our D air-tight. Then we will be able to draft top five again in 2011 for the offense because doing the same as the past two drafts, namely ignoring the o-line, will assure us of another group of top five picks in each round.

Offense in 2010:

Ignore the o-line in the draft - again, and bring in LEVI JONES to replace CHRIS SAMUELS. Oh, they already did that. Great, LT problem now solved. As VINNIE said last week, "we did something for the o-line." Go get the top FA left and right tackles in '10 and kiss MIKE WILLIAMS goodbye, LEVI JONES to back-up LT. Move STEPHON HEYER back to RT back-up. Put D'ANTHONY BATISTE back at LG where he belongs behind DOCKERY. WIL MONTGOMERY continues to develop at RG and back-up C. RINEHART is cut, EDWIN WILLIAMS takes his place. The savior RANDY THOMAS returns to ALL-PRO stature again. And voila, the o-line is now dominant.

MARKO MITCHELL takes RANDLE EL's place on the roster and in the line-up. EL becomes back-up because 'SKINS can't move his contract. FRED DAVIS is cut for missing catchable passes which are routinely returned for touchdowns. MALCOLM KELLY finally puts DEVIN THOMAS out of his misery and the line-up. CHRIS COOLEY reclaims his starting TE slot. TODD YODER becomes #2, and LORENZO ALEXANDER becomes #3 TE. SANTANA MOSS has an ALL-PRO year.

JASON CAMPBELL survives JIM ZORN who does not and leads the REDSKINS on the warpath with a franchise busting scoring season in his new seventh offense-season in nine years. CP runs for another 1300 yards and LADELL BETTS gets older. ROCK CARTWRIGHT comes back for a ninth season, and a FA kicker gives the boot to SUISHAM. MEANWHILE, HUNTER SMITH heals up and finally gives the field position advantage to the REDSKINS. ETHAN ALBRIGHT rolls on as the 'red-snapper." Ah, I can't wait for nirvana to arrive in the form of the 2010 season.

Posted by: glawrence007 | November 9, 2009 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Just came over ESPN. LJ has been signed by the Redskins. Given a contract extention, 5 years 83 million. We're going to the Superbowl!

Posted by: hackeynut | November 9, 2009 4:21 PM

hackeynut - shipped to Dallas. Hasta la vista, baby.

Posted by: RedCherokee | November 9, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

I suspect Danny is feeling a squeeze right now, unrelated to Aaron Rodgers and his sex sacks.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 9, 2009 5:12 PM |

Given his ten years of failures, he has one more chance to make something work and if that fizzles then for economic reasons he has to sell the team because the Nation will vote him off the team with their feets.

Posted by: MrPink | November 9, 2009 5:27 PM | Report abuse

He couldn’t do anything behind a crappy o-line in KC, no reason that would change in DC. Go for fresh young legs with Mason or Ganther instead.

Posted by: skinswest | November 9, 2009 5:35 PM | Report abuse

six, I meant SIX!

Posted by: Curzon417 | November 9, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of Yoder, has his hair always been cut and colored like that? Or did he do it in honor of Cooley being out hurt?

Posted by: Veretax | November 9, 2009 2:47 PM

Both Cooley and Yoder had dyed their hair for the Philly game. Didn't work out so well (without the mohawk) for Cooley though ... Yoder has the Yohawk ... and Cooley dyed his back.

YOOOOOOOOOOOODER!

Posted by: dcsween | November 9, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

A long time fan writes about how the 'skins have lost what made them Classy--as shown in Atlanta Sunday...

http://www.nfldraftdog.com/nfl-team-columns/washington-redskins.html

EXCERPT: "Safety LaRon Landry hit Falcon QB Matt Ryan with a classic form tackle. Unfortunately it was formed well out of bounds, causing a flag and sideline riot. Landry had enough class to leave the scene of his offense, but DeAngelo Hall chose that moment to drop by the Falcon sideline to say “hi” to his old team. That caused usually classy Falcon coach Mike Smith to get in Hall’s grill and perhaps elbow him. Unconvinced his two earlier offside offenses had done enough damage, Haynesworth came by and shoved an Atlanta player, earning a 15-yard penalty."

Posted by: TheCork | November 9, 2009 5:49 PM | Report abuse

The thing with the runing game is, if you have a threat back there, which Betts showed he can be, it slows down the pass rush.

Maybe thats why JC17 didnt get sacked the 2nd half.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | November 9, 2009 5:50 PM | Report abuse

I think LJ would be dying to show KC what they missed out on.

Give him a shot, whats the difference at this point.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | November 9, 2009 5:52 PM | Report abuse

The fate of the DC NFL fandom has been usurped by The Owner, and there isn't much that can be recovered for as long as he is here. The Collinsworth request to Riggo for clarification (bad owner or bad guy?) and Riggo's response (dark heart) have distracted attention away from Riggo's two valid and uncontested points: (1) its all about The Owner and his ego; a child cannot be trusted with a grownup's wallet and (2) The Owner knows nothing, absolutely nothing, about football. Its almost like its the Revenge of the Last Kid Picked for Kickball.

On principle, its wrong to ever wish a bad thing to befall anyone. So I can only wish for the next best thing ... that The Owner takes the team to Los Angeles where getting paid too much is normal, style takes precedence over substance, celebrity is borne of stupidity, and The Owner can grow his multi-media empire.

Sure, it will sting ... and it will sting for a while. Unlike the past decade, where it has burned like no amount of Preparation H can ever salve. On the other hand, the greatness of Burgundy and Gold (Lombardi, Allen, or Gibbs) has been tarnished by The Owner's Cult of One -- himself. How many head coaches during His Ownership? How many QBs?

Someday, the Washington [inserts] will again be a proud NFL franchise with whom fans can enjoy a non-abusive, non-toxic relationship ... someday, after The Owner leaves.

Posted by: dcsween | November 9, 2009 5:53 PM | Report abuse

No, no, one thousand times no.

Let Ladell play. We don't need to be subjected to both losses AND thugs.

Posted by: drischord | November 9, 2009 5:53 PM | Report abuse

We already played the Chiefs ... so Vinny will not be interested. Question: Has Andre Woodson been activated off the practice squad yet?

Posted by: dcsween | November 9, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

I hope a fight breaks out on our sideline during the Dallas game. I'd love to see Danny Smith pick Tony Romo up over his head and hurl him onto the mid-field Dallas star. Then it would be great to see him spit out his gum and replace it with Romo's detached pinky finger

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | November 9, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Question: Has Andre Woodson been activated off the practice squad yet?

Posted by: dcsween

Great question, with JC17 having problems with the ankle and the season all but over. Lets see if this guy can be part of the future.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | November 9, 2009 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Question: Has Andre Woodson been activated off the practice squad yet?

Posted by: dcsween

Great question, with JC17 having problems with the ankle and the season all but over. Lets see if this guy can be part of the future.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | November 9, 2009 6:01 PM | Report abuse

I don't disagree, but getting his first professional playing time from behind our line would be a baptism by fire indeed...

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | November 9, 2009 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Synderato will sign LJ just to lead the anger management/public relation classes apparently being implemented down in Ashburn. Synderato also announced LJ is in charge of teaching the secondary how to hit, lesson #1 imagine the opposition are women. Synderato threw in a 1st and 2nd rounder to the Chiefs to seal the deal for LJ because Synderato already got his TE and WR's of the future and that's what the draft is for in Synderato Land.

Posted by: regis429 | November 9, 2009 6:06 PM | Report abuse

"It's a tremendous indictment of the state of the league that there are five teams that might be ranked below the Redskins right now."

POSTED BY: NATE IN THE PDX

The current recession has further separated the "Haves and Have Nots" of sports. It's worse than ever

In baseball, less than a half dozen franchises have a realistic chance of winning it all, and the richest team won.

In hoop. There are some pathetic franchises and at the other end of the spectrum the elites, Boston, the Lakers and a few others. The rest is mediocrity. Because there are only five on the court at once, it's sometimes easier to turn it around.

Pro Football. Never have there been so many great teams and so many gawd-awful ones.

You need money AND smarts in the boardroom and on the sideline to be an elite.

Money alone, as Dan has proven, doesn't get you out of the basement when the smarts aren't there and the coaching is atrocious.

Posted by: TheCork | November 9, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Someday, the Washington [inserts] will again be a proud NFL franchise with whom fans can enjoy a non-abusive, non-toxic relationship ... someday, after The Owner leaves.

Posted by: dcsween | November 9, 2009 5:53 PM |

It will be the Washington Psyops. Just like them dudes that stare down goats the Psyops will beat the other teams with their mental powers. Every team that plays them will be a fearful, anixety ridden, quavering bowl of Jello.

Posted by: MrPink | November 9, 2009 6:10 PM | Report abuse

It seemed like they slightly altered their running plays for Ladel Betts.

Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't know too much about the intricacies of running plays & couldn't find many clips on NFL.com (&, hey, it was a pretty boring game), but - compared to what they do w/Portis - it seemed like they used Sellers less in their off-tackles and power-runs, and set things up so that Betts had an extra couple steps before he got the ball.

If so, then I wonder if in the past, they haven't got much out of Betts b/c they've been hit to run too much like Portis, but maybe this is just me(?).

Posted by: Josh7 | November 9, 2009 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Is Larry Johnson a guard or a tackle? No you say??? Then it really doesn't matter...

Posted by: cedric_lockhart | November 9, 2009 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Please add an option for "Hell No" That would make the poll more accurate.

Posted by: MadeRED | November 9, 2009 6:50 PM | Report abuse

We should pursue Larry Johnson only because him and Redskins deserve each other.

Posted by: DesiHungama | November 9, 2009 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Skins say they are not interested in LJ. Apparently, LJ would practice during the week, off-season, pre-season and attend all mini-camps. The front office was turned off by this dedication and will continue with Portis until he is 85-yrs old using nanotechnology to keep him on the field.

Seriously though, why even entertain getting LJ…Thought those RB’s on the practice squad could be used if needed.

Posted by: rb_rivers | November 9, 2009 7:08 PM | Report abuse

p1funk: "Our guy, on the other hand, plays his best when we're down by 20 and he goes on a stat-padding TD drive to boost his passer rating."

Recommend you read the post from footballoutsiders directly above.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 9, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse


I understand that the stat-mongers like to throw numbers around to make JC look good. Folks up here have been doing that for a while.

My wager is that JC's best numbers within the game are being generated at times when the Redskins are already down by a bunch and the defenses are letting up or dropping into prevent.

When that happens, JC starts getting into a rhythm and finding guys.

I don't want to have to shuffle through NFL.com to prove my conjecture...but so help me, I will...

Posted by: p1funk | November 9, 2009 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Landry's hit on Ryan was such a Dirty Pirate Hooker move.

Stay classy Redskin Nation.

Oh and FYI - Vick ain't happy in Philly so hey there's an option . . .ppphhhppttt

Posted by: sfskin | November 9, 2009 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Falcons say they feed off Smith's enthusiasm

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gTcnGJyRO5hx2dTQiubN7NgesYagD9BSAHDO0

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How do you feed off Medium? Would be nice if zorn would show a little enthusiasm or some kind of emotion.

Heck, it would be nice to see him throw an elbow or two...Dan Snyder's way would be best...

Posted by: Curzon417 | November 9, 2009 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Just noticing a column in the Wall Street Journal today, by Jason Gay:

"The 2-6 Redskins might actually be the best football team of the group [referring to the "bounteous year for abysmal NFL teams"]. They didn't play half bad Sunday in losing 31-17 to the Atlanta Falcoms. But with a Midas-like payroll, a concussed star running back (Clinton Portis, hurt Sunday) and a head coach (Jim Zorn) with as much clout as a vegetarian at The Capital Grille, they're easily the saddest soap opera in football."

Posted by: Xlnt | November 9, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse

"I understand that the stat-mongers like to throw numbers around to make JC look good. Folks up here have been doing that for a while."Posted by: p1funk

I doubt Bill Barnwell of profootballoutsiders.com has any need to make Jason Campbell 'look good' in the eyes of a bunch of strangers on a WaPo blog. He's just interested in accuracy, and the numbers don't support your view of Campbell.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 9, 2009 7:25 PM | Report abuse

"Boy," the bloggas all cried in late September. "It would be nice to have young quarterbacks like Joe Flacco, Matt Ryan, Mark Sanchez, Jay Cutler, Matt Stafford, Aaron Rodgers, and Eli Manning."

Well, how are the 'kids' doing?:


New York Jets 4-4

Baltimore Ravens 4-4

New York Giants 5-4

Green Bay Packers 4-4

Chicago Bears 4-4

Detroit Lions 1-7

Atlanta Falcons 5-3


That's 22 wins and 30 losses.

Hardly impressive when you think about the chatta these guys generate from fatmouthing football pundits.

Do you still want any of the young'ns listed above, all things considered?

Yeah and hell yeah!

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 9, 2009 7:32 PM | Report abuse

My Conjecture:

JC's best passing #s are generated when the team is already down by a couple of scores and the game is getting out of reach.

Case Study #1: The Atlanta game

JC's stat line: 15/22 196yds 1TD 1Int

ATL (7) Was (0)
0-2 Int(returned for TD) 2sacks

ATL (14) Was (0)
4-5 73yds 2sacks FG

ATL (14) Was (3)
sack

ATL (24) Was (3)
4-5 49yds

ATL (24) Was (10)
4-5 42yds TD

ATL (31) Was (17)
2-4 32 yds


JC's best drives came when the Skins were down by 14+ points throughout the game. I've not looked into any of the other games yet, but my speculation is that we'll see this same trend play out.

JC ends up with decent looking numbers when it is all said and done, but it's misleading, b/c he plays worse when the game is competitive and better when the game is pulling out of reach - not the kind of QB you can count on.


Posted by: p1funk | November 9, 2009 7:32 PM | Report abuse

doubt Bill Barnwell of profootballoutsiders.com has any need to make Jason Campbell 'look good' in the eyes of a bunch of strangers on a WaPo blog. He's just interested in accuracy, and the numbers don't support your view of Campbell.

Posted by: Samson151 | November 9, 2009 7:25 PM | Report abuse


See my "article" posted directly above.

Posted by: p1funk | November 9, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse

#1 Tampa Bay
#2 St. Louis
#3 Kansas City
#4 Detroit
#5 Cleveland
#6 your own Washington Redskins

If KC wins another game, we could jump to #5. They beat us head to head.

And from that list, only the browns will be on a quarterback hunt.

Too, each team has been addressing its offensive line, suggesting the skins go into the draft from a 'win-win' position.

The skins could draft a speedy back, right/left tackle, or quarterback, and still get another guy the need in the second round.

The question is, is there a way to get a 3rd rounder back?

The other question is, will a new guy be doing the picking?

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 9, 2009 7:40 PM | Report abuse

It's not only the question Moe, it's also the hope.

Posted by: Curzon417 | November 9, 2009 7:48 PM | Report abuse

The way the contracts are structured, do you think the Skins players get paid more per game if they are injured and not playing than if they are playing butlose the game?

Something doesn't seem like it's quite right with the injuries racking up.

Posted by: Xlnt | November 9, 2009 7:51 PM | Report abuse

#1 Tampa Bay
#2 St. Louis
#3 Kansas City
#4 Detroit
#5 Cleveland
#6 your own Washington Redskins

If KC wins another game, we could jump to #5. They beat us head to head.
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as did detroit so that will help out too and only TB IMO will be looking at LT

Posted by: hcic55 | November 9, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse

I hate to pop all our bubble of hope that come next season we have a new fo and coach but I cant see that happening for they tried to get our current coach to quit.He did not so on less they want to pay him the money that he would be owed for not coaching .They will just have to keep him through next season when his contract is up .

An no good front office person would come here so it looks like we are stuck at least through 2010

Sorry

Posted by: joevick | November 9, 2009 7:57 PM | Report abuse

sure bring in another guy with an attitude problem... you can never have too many of those players if you wanna win

Posted by: joek443 | November 9, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse

"Something doesn't seem like it's quite right with the injuries racking up."


It all adds up to me.

What do a lot of the injured redskins players have in common?:


Randy Thomas
Chris Samuels
Clinton Portis
Mike Williams
Chris Cooley
Chris Horton


Age, milage, futility, twinkies, blonde hair, pain from watching LaRon miss another tackle.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 9, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Curzon417 | November 9, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Ha, you should check out the Packers fans. They're slamming Rodgers. They're saying it's his fault for holding onto the ball too long. They also accuse him of locking onto his receivers. They've suggested that his high QB rating is because he doesn't throw the ball and just dumps it off on checkdown passes. Sound familiar?

Yes it does, and that's the way mccarthy wants it remember? He and brett having it out a couple years ago?

Posted by: Veretax | November 9, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse

as did detroit so that will help out too and only TB IMO will be looking at LT

Posted by: hcic55 | November 9, 2009 7:52 PM |

If that's the case, I'd happily welcome Penn (the Bucs starting LT) to the skins. He'll be a mid level OT and assuming L Jones has a couple of years left, Penn would fill in nicely at RT.
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MistaMoe the Rams will be looking for a QB as well. So they'd get the first crack if all things stay the same.

Posted by: TWISI | November 9, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

F Dan Snyder.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | November 9, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Case Study #2 - Philly Game

JC stat line: 29/43 284yds 2TD 1Int

P(7) W(0)
3-6 29yd Int (returned for TD)

p(14) W(0)
sack/fumble turnover

P(17) W(0)
4-4 22yd TD

P(20) W(7)
0-1 sack

P(27) W(7)
5-8 49yds FG

P(27) W(10)
17-24 184yds 4sacks fumble/turnover 1TD


Once again, JC plays like crap at the start of the game when it is competitive.

The team is already down 17-0 when he finally strings together a half-way decent drive (4-4 22 yds TD).

In the second half, with the game stalling on both sides, JC is a mixed bag, leading a couple of decent drives, but also contributing to another turnover.

His second TD pass comes when there is 2:18 left in the game and the Skins are down 27-10.

Posted by: p1funk | November 9, 2009 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Pfunk,

Maybe it is more of an indictment that our "bend don't break" D isn't very good. I would be willing to bet that this D isn't in the top 15 by year end.

Did Jason drop the pick 6 that was in Sleepy Fred's hands?

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | November 9, 2009 8:08 PM | Report abuse

I don't want anyone in this front office signing any player.

We don't need no stinking Larry Johnson

Posted by: rickyroge | November 9, 2009 8:16 PM | Report abuse

am i the only one that sees that hit that gave clinton the concussion as a helmit to helmit hit warranting a penalty?

potentially a subsequent fine?

its like 2 years ago against rutgers when jordan steffy got hit in the jaw by a vicious helmit to helmit hit and the announcers talked to it like it was a bad break for him...no mention of the guy visciously leading with his crown...brutal!!!


Posted by: deadskin | November 9, 2009 8:16 PM | Report abuse

This just in from the NFL High Speed SportsWire:

A source from within the Redskins Front Office, who wanted to remain anonymous; for fear of being placed on sign duty at the next home game. Has confirmed that Daniel (My Heart Ain't Dark) Snyder, and Vinney (My Butt Hurts) Cerrato plan on offering Larry Johnson a contract for the remainder of the season.

Plus as a condition for Larry Johnson coming to the Redskins, will offer him a 25 million 5 year contract with 15 million guaranteed, at the end of the 2009 season

Posted by: ccwbambam | November 9, 2009 8:17 PM | Report abuse

p1funk what is the point of your exercise. This offense has scored one TD in the first quarter all year, so it goes to say that everyone on offense, including JC, doesn't really play well until they are down. How many yards has CP had to start games? What about Moss? How has the blocking been on offense? It's pointless to single one player out isn't it?

Posted by: TWISI | November 9, 2009 8:21 PM | Report abuse

Of all the reasons to fire Jim Zorn, I point to ONE:

Antwaan Randle El

Posted by: rickyroge | November 9, 2009 8:23 PM | Report abuse

I don't want anyone in this front office signing any player.

We don't need no stinking Larry Johnson

Posted by: rickyroge | November 9, 2009 8:16 PM

http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/redskins/2009/nov/09/no-interest-in-johnson/

The Times has reported that the Skins have no interest in Johnson per an inside
source.

Posted by: TWISI | November 9, 2009 8:28 PM | Report abuse

According to Adam Schefter, Johnson hopes to be a Steeler.

Posted by: Curzon417 | November 9, 2009 8:41 PM | Report abuse

At this point all I can say is, "Lord, please help our poor pitiful Washington Redskins".

Posted by: 72Redskins | November 9, 2009 8:44 PM | Report abuse

twisi

"...the Rams will be looking for a QB as well. So they'd get the first crack if all things stay the same."


So who do you think they pick?

Is Marc Bulger that bad or does he need a change of scenery?

I say they pick a defensive player and take a quarterback later on.

We still are the team with options.

But first, we need to change the dudes doing the picking.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 9, 2009 8:49 PM | Report abuse

The broncos look very good.

They play excellent pass defense and we can't pass anything but gas, gallstones, and time.

Next Sunday is going to be painful.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 9, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

I voted yes for picking up LJ.

I like Betts and Rock to much to see them get hurt running behind our horrible line.

Posted by: caps512 | November 9, 2009 8:52 PM | Report abuse

New York Jets 4-4

Baltimore Ravens 4-4

New York Giants 5-4

Green Bay Packers 4-4

Chicago Bears 4-4

Detroit Lions 1-7

Atlanta Falcons 5-3

That's 22 wins and 30 losses.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 9, 2009 7:32 PM |

You dumb tool. You can't even add. Get you azz back to develpmental ed, sweat hog.

Posted by: MrPink | November 9, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse

I haven't posted here in a while-Our boys are having the kind of year you wish we could skip. But I have been reading a lot of comments and heres my take.
We have a bad owner (a tool)
We have a bad GM (the tool boy)
We have a bad head coach
We have a mediocre QB
We have a horrible O line
We have three decent recievers (Cooley, Moss and the rookie)
We have, at best, mediocre running backs

Our defense is medium, at best-Good D line, average LB's and an over-rated secondary.

We are pretty lucky to have two wins.

We might go 4-12 (Raiders and an upset along the way)

They need to scrap the entire organization and start over.

Posted by: jandlml | November 9, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse

How many yards has CP had to start games? What about Moss?

Posted by: TWISI | November 9, 2009 8:21 PM |

It hard for anyone to get anything going when you QB start game DOA.

Posted by: MrPink | November 9, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse

You almost got me there Cindy. I almost voted no, but refuse to vote on these dumb polls.

Stop them already.

Posted by: Curzon417 | November 9, 2009 3:43 PM


Curzon, You probably don't get the print edition. The polls become part of the print edition, trying to direct traffic to RI. "Go vote in this poll. You could make the difference. Right now it's 71% for and 28% against." For some reason, the percentages never add up to a hundred.

Posted by: League-Source | November 9, 2009 9:07 PM | Report abuse

According to Adam Schefter, Johnson hopes to be a Steeler.


Posted by: Curzon417 | November 9, 2009 8:41 PM | Report abuse


sure, he's exactly the type of a player that the steelers have been known to go after

speaking of the steelers Dick LeBeau must be the youngest looking 72-year old man on earth

Posted by: joek443 | November 9, 2009 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Correct. I, like you, do not get the print edition. But just for laughs, I voted no, which did not change the #s you just posted.

Posted by: Curzon417 | November 9, 2009 9:15 PM | Report abuse

But with a Midas-like payroll, a concussed star running back (Clinton Portis, hurt Sunday) ...

Posted by: Xlnt | November 9, 2009 7:23 PM |

Concussed on the field, cussed on the blog. Sheesh. It a good thing that CP have those $nyder $$$ to keep wolf from door.

Posted by: MrPink | November 9, 2009 9:16 PM | Report abuse

things change constantly in football or any other sport but one thing that never seems to change is that the pittsburgh steelers will always have great defense no matter who they have playing for them

Posted by: joek443 | November 9, 2009 9:17 PM | Report abuse

mr.vaginacolor(aka)pink

"Get you azz back to develpmental ed, sweat hog." (unaltered)

If you can read that quote, blame your English teacher.

If you can't, thank one.

I have to go now.

Mr. Pink has ordered me to go back to special education classes.

I guess his mother is lonely.

I'll take some kneepads, she might need to earn $20.

But all I have is $15.79.

She'll take it--she did before.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 9, 2009 9:20 PM | Report abuse

How many yards has CP had to start games? What about Moss?

Posted by: TWISI | November 9, 2009 8:21 PM |

It hard for anyone to get anything going when you QB start game DOA.

Posted by: MrPink | November 9, 2009 8:57 PM

Very one sided point of view, but very much expected from most on this blog. Don't get me wrong, JC is a part of the problem as well. It's just really difficult to single one person as the source of all the offense's problem. There are many issues with the offense, not the least of which how poorly they are prepared to start games after a week (or two) of preparation.

Posted by: TWISI | November 9, 2009 9:23 PM | Report abuse

mr.vaginacolor(aka)pink

"It a good thing that CP have those $nyder $$$ to keep wolf from door."

Bro', this reads like you been smoking a grammar rock.

There are three serious grammatical errors related to making nouns plural and contraction use in this cluelessly administered 'cool-talk' you're trying to impress bloggas with.

I can't count and you can't read.

But I own a calculator.

Perhaps you're just hooked on chronic.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 9, 2009 9:24 PM | Report abuse

In the past 5 years Big Ben has been sacked 214 times over the past 5 years, the most in the league... Steelers qb = balls, Skins qb = uterus.

Johnson is a very bad idea.

Posted by: AnthonyMix | November 9, 2009 9:30 PM | Report abuse

mr.vaginacolor(aka)pink

"It hard for anyone to get anything going when you QB start game DOA." (again, unaltered)


This reads like it's hard for you to get hard.

The contraction "It is" and possessive pronoun "your" are both dying due to your DOA English skills.

You say, Mr. Forrest Gump Pink, that I can't count.

Well, I've counted three posts you've written that read like they were written by a dude who went to school only on the days they served pizza at lunch.

And that may have been once a month.

Or, from the way you write, never.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 9, 2009 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Mo I think getting the OT is the best move in the first round.

Watching the game our offense stands no chance against the Broncos. Lets hope our D gets some turnovers to score this week.

Posted by: TWISI | November 9, 2009 9:43 PM | Report abuse

My thoughts on the roster next year....

Trade Landry (very avg.no leadership skills)
cut Rabach please!(tired of the penalties)
Randy Thomas retires (thank god)
Samuels retires (not great anymore)
Heyer sucks and shouldnt be in the league as well as M. Williams and Rhinehart
Campbell,Portis gone
Cornelius Griffin needs to go now as well
Andre Carter can go too.
Carlos no hands Rogers needs to go

Seems like a good start in the overhaul direction to me anyway.

Posted by: stevearenowe | November 9, 2009 9:44 PM | Report abuse

PANTIES

A word which apparently does not exist in Hebrew ... however in Italian its:

Mutande da donna
Mutadine

Kind of reflecting the mutinous mood we all seem to be in ...

Posted by: periculum | November 9, 2009 9:46 PM | Report abuse

quick halftime FF update ... Suzanne's trying to come back, down 16 in her game with Marshall, Ward and Prater.

Steers are up 2 over John D and both have guys going, Skulls leading the Shaft by 8 since Big Ben has -1 for the Shaft. 4-12 leads Future Winners by 5, both teams have guys going here as well.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 9, 2009 10:10 PM | Report abuse

This all feels weird, but liberating in a way. New horizons. Sundays free of anxiety and dread. A life without the deadskins. What a relief. On Sunday, I was on the bus from Boston to NY and could only follow along on my phone. The only shock was when the Skins were driving in the first half, and I was waiting for the delayed update on ESPN mobile, then I saw the Falcon's score increase, not the Redskins' score, the Falcons' score . . . even though I was starting to feel a little optimism with the Skins almost in the redzone - waiting for the progress bar on my phone to reveal more good news . . . but the Falcons' points had increased.

[one some teams, the response would be, well, we will have to score even more points now - laughable]

And it didn't hurt, I didn't frighten my seat mate, this girl sitting next to me studying her class notes with no such hang ups about the Skins who probably is only vaguely aware they are a team at all. How nice that is, how nice it would be, could be . . .

Did you happen to catch Wilbon's comments on the chat today?

Someone asked what he thinks Snyder will do at the end of the season and he's right.

Snyder will toss money at a big name coach, but keep everything else in place. There was no talk about QB in this particular question, nor was there in the answer and it's beside the point.

The point, my friends, fellow sufferers, is that it will take a full one year more of this for Danny to make substantive change.

What was not mentioned in Wilbon's answer - is what happens if this new big name coach gets us back to 8 - 8 . . . then we may be looking at endless mediocre disappointment and weak kneed competitiveness, loads of hype, loads of BS, playing up, playing down to competition - never grounded, never strong, always sick, and as delusional as the cult of scientology.

Your Skins, taken over by a . . . this little F-er somehow hijacked the Skins and is running it from his eighth grade mentality and needy ego - through his (Kindergarden Ninja proxy) bug-eyed ex-wide receiver Vinny Cerrato.

Dan wanting the Redskins to win is an afterthought for him - it's not even close to what motivates this boy usurper.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | November 9, 2009 10:13 PM | Report abuse

I VOTED BOTH WAYS BECAUSE THIS ? IS STOOPID. JC17 SHOULD JC 39..IF THE SKINS SIGN HIM . I AM A RA...FN.. I CAN'T SAY IT....DAN SYNDER AIN'T GOOD.

Posted by: dmlopez1 | November 9, 2009 10:57 PM | Report abuse

I VOTED BOTH WAYS BECAUSE THIS ? IS STOOPID. JC17 SHOULD JC 39..IF THE SKINS SIGN HIM . I AM A RA...FN.. I CAN'T SAY IT....DAN SYNDER AIN'T GOOD.

Posted by: dmlopez1 | November 9, 2009 10:57 PM | Report abuse

We've already got to "Johnsons" running this team, I don't think we need to sign any more...

Posted by: edvar | November 10, 2009 12:11 AM | Report abuse

What about all this talk about Daniel Snyder putting the Sheeny Curse on all the Haters? I think he's already given the Haters the Sheeny Curse its Vinnie Cerrato!

Posted by: ElBigChroizo | November 10, 2009 1:22 AM | Report abuse

from Sportingnews:

"While the offense struggled in the first half, the defense held up quite nicely. The only Pittsburgh points in the first half came when free safety Tyrone Carter intercepted a Kyle Orton pass and returned it 48 yards for a touchdown. It was one of two interceptions for Carter."

I thought I'd see stories like this about the Skins after all the D upgrades in the offseason (H-worth, Jarmon, Orkpo). Very disappointed in our defense.

Posted by: Alan4 | November 10, 2009 2:45 AM | Report abuse

Well, I've counted three posts you've written that read like they were written by a dude who went to school only on the days they served pizza at lunch.

And that may have been once a month.

Or, from the way you write, never.

Posted by: MistaMoe | November 9, 2009 9:32 PM |

Dude - you mackin for a crackin. Internet place where dudes don't need no grammar like they do at WaPo.

Posted by: MrPink | November 10, 2009 3:34 AM | Report abuse

What about all this talk about Daniel Snyder putting the Sheeny Curse on all the Haters? I think he's already given the Haters the Sheeny Curse its Vinnie Cerrato!

Posted by: ElBigChroizo | November 10, 2009 1:22 AM |

"Sheeny Curse"? Take you "big chrozio" and go somewhere else to blog. RI semi-respectable. No perjorative ethnic phrasing allowed.

Posted by: MrPink | November 10, 2009 3:40 AM | Report abuse

"I haven't posted here in a while-Our boys are having the kind of year you wish we could skip. But I have been reading a lot of comments and heres my take.
We have a bad owner (a tool)
We have a bad GM (the tool boy)
We have a bad head coach
We have a mediocre QB
We have a horrible O line
We have three decent recievers (Cooley, Moss and the rookie)
We have, at best, mediocre running backs
Our defense is medium, at best-Good D line, average LB's and an over-rated secondary.
We are pretty lucky to have two wins.
We might go 4-12 (Raiders and an upset along the way)
They need to scrap the entire organization and start over."

That's what I was hoping for -- a fresh perspective. Never heard those opinions here before.

Keep up the insights.

Posted by: jandlml

Posted by: Samson151 | November 10, 2009 4:23 AM | Report abuse

Amazing what passes for journalism these days -- a boring poll question.

LJ is a washed-up, overpriced, past-his-prime locker room cancer. No thanks. As you were...

Posted by: cali_snowboarder | November 10, 2009 4:57 AM | Report abuse

Steelers 28
Doncos 10

Pittsburgh gave us the blueprint for whipping these guys. Now all we gotta do is follow the plan. Piece of cake. 3-6 here we come!

Posted by: League-Source | November 10, 2009 6:42 AM | Report abuse

Another Great Secondary toasted by a great QB. If Fact Big Ben's first half play opened up the running game.

Any1 else notice how well Big Ben moves within the pocket? And as he does it, he keeps his eyes down field.

Posted by: Vicc | November 10, 2009 7:13 AM | Report abuse

Steelers 28
Doncos 10

Pittsburgh gave us the blueprint for whipping these guys. Now all we gotta do is follow the plan. Piece of cake. 3-6 here we come!

Posted by: League-Source | November 10, 2009 6:42 AM

Baltimore did the same. This game is going to be on the skins defense. They need to step up and play like a top 5 defense. If the defense can force Orton to make plays, he will turn the ball over. If the defense can limit the Broncos drives (it's a ball control offense), the Broncos defense will falter down the stretch. It's time for the skins defense to step up, and not give all those big plays up.

Posted by: TWISI | November 10, 2009 7:18 AM | Report abuse

If you gamble on NFL games, just pick the team that has a better QB. You will win 70+% of the time

Posted by: Vicc


If you are a college student, you can pay your tuition using this gambling method.
*trust me*

Posted by: Vicc | November 7, 2009 7:12 PM | Report abuse

`
I sincerely doubt that you do well in Vegas because you clearly do not know football or least today's version.


Posted by: periculum | November 7, 2009 7:58 PM | Report abuse


`
Hey Peri,

Why don't you test my theory and see?

Look at this past weeks games and look at the two QB's that play against each other.

Big Ben beat Kyle Orton(check)

Romo beat D. McNabb(check)(they're almost even)

P.Rivers beat Eli Manning(check)

V.Young beat Alex Smith(check)

Matt Hasselbeck beat Stafford(check)

Tom Brady beat Chad Henne(check)

Drew Brees beat Jake Delhomme(check)

Josh Freeman beat Aaron Rogers(Miss)

D. Garrard beat Matt Cassel(toss-up)

Matt Ryan beat Jason Campbell(check)

Kurt Warner beat Jay Cutler(check)

Carson Palmer beat Joe Flacco(check)

Peyton Manning beat Matt Schwab(check)

You see that Perineum? Using my formula to pick games works and I called that sh!t before the games were played. J@CK@SS!

Posted by: Vicc | November 10, 2009 7:27 AM | Report abuse

Steelers 28
Doncos 10

Pittsburgh gave us the blueprint for whipping these guys. Now all we gotta do is follow the plan. Piece of cake. 3-6 here we come!

Posted by: League-Source | November 10, 2009 6:42 AM


Hate to ruin the party (oh, who am I kidding...I don't mind), but the Skins don't have the horses (no pun intended) to stop the Broncos. The Steelers and Ravens have a couple of things the Skins don't:

-A quarterback
-A steady ground game
-An offensive line
-A playcaller not yet on AARP whose head is on the OUTSIDE of his ass
-A defense/special teams capable of not only taking the ball away, but taking it back for 6.

So unless the Redskins pass on LJ and acquire those things between now and Sunday, don't count on anything less than a 24-17 loss. Because, you know, 17 points is where this offense draws the line.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 10, 2009 7:39 AM | Report abuse

Piece of cake. 3-6 here we come!

All we need is a team that's willing to make the effort during the week.
If you think the current assemblage of talent is incapable of ever winning, then the second half Sunday proved you wrong. The team had every reason to quit, but they did not. ATL took their foot off the pedal a bit, and suddenly we looked effective.
But then bad tackling took back over. Losers find a way to lose.
The one time in recent memory that this team played well was in the aftermath of ST's death. Nothing like that kind of slap in the face to wake you up, commit you to doing the work necessary to win. I don't know how to rekindle that kind of commitment, but the right coach probably does.

Posted by: daggar | November 10, 2009 8:00 AM | Report abuse

OOOOOOOH yes! Sure to be the greatest savior since D.J. Duckett!!! Pleeeeease, by all means, get Johnson.
This team is set to be in the toilet for at least the next 5 years.
Thanks Dan and Vinnie

Posted by: pd2710 | November 10, 2009 8:27 AM | Report abuse

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please stop this nonsense! What, we wanna be the Raiders East now? Already a bunch of misfits and the frickin laughing-stock of the league.

Can we PLEASE start-over and build something we (including Danny) can all be proud of...again?!?!?!?!

Posted by: kone | November 10, 2009 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Please stop this nonsense! What, we wanna be the Raiders East now? Already a bunch of misfits and the frickin laughing-stock of the league.

Posted by: kone | November 10, 2009 9:14 AM


That's already done. Time to start wrapping our minds around that.

Posted by: brownwood26 | November 10, 2009 9:43 AM | Report abuse

"Listen, it's an emotional game. I get that. Guys are going to do stupid things. I get that. But stupid penalties and cheap shots and posing -- posing?? -- on a team that will struggle to win two more games really is beyond belief. These are veteran guys, doing silly things in Week 8 of what may be one of the worst seasons in memory. Brian Orakpo had two sacks Sunday; he has 5 1/2 for the season and is having a great year. I didn't see any dancing or posing from him."

From Tracee Hamilton's column.

If the 'Skins DON'T turn it around Orakpo's going to be on the first FA bus out of town that he can catch.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | November 10, 2009 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Who cares?

Posted by: lylewimbledon | November 10, 2009 10:56 AM | Report abuse

So LJ is a head-case chump. So...? He's better than what we got, plus, he at least practices with his team.

Posted by: scmonty1 | November 10, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Boy," the bloggas all cried in late September. "It would be nice to have young quarterbacks like Joe Flacco, Matt Ryan, Mark Sanchez, Jay Cutler, Matt Stafford, Aaron Rodgers, and Eli Manning."

Well, how are the 'kids' doing?:


New York Jets 4-4

Baltimore Ravens 4-4

New York Giants 5-4

Green Bay Packers 4-4

Chicago Bears 4-4

Detroit Lions 1-7

Atlanta Falcons 5-3

That's 22 wins and 30 losses.

Hardly impressive when you think about the chatta these guys generate from fatmouthing football pundits.

Do you still want any of the young'ns listed above, all things considered?

Yeah and hell yeah!

If one uses the calculator on your computer that would be 27 wins and not 22. You could throw out the Lions record and the totals are 26 wins and 23 losses. Statistics suck. It's all about wins and losses.

Posted by: hessone | November 11, 2009 8:37 AM | Report abuse

They should not pursue Larry Johnson, but Cerrato and Snyder probably will. He is a problem guy. The Redskins will come out this week after overpaying to get him and say they worked out his problems. This is how Snyder puts together his fantasy team.

Posted by: sruppert | November 11, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

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