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Your Take on Jansen's Release

By Cindy Boren  |  May 29, 2009; 2:27 PM ET
 
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First vote.

Posted by: jgr007 | May 29, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

"Anonymous sources that are familiar with the situation like to speak on a condition of anonymity", said an anonymous source familiar with the situation.

Posted by: jmicrodoc | May 29, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Everybody in the Redskins FO and coaching staff wants to give Jansen what he wants: to play and not retire.

Now, Jansen is on the block and there will be a team in need of veteran depth as mini camps and ota's begin to sting teams with injuries across the Oline.

There is no way Danny pays Jansen millions to be a backup. Jansen doesn't want that, either.

Also, there is no way that Buges & Zorn use Jansen as camp fodder; the dude commands more respect than that.

Posted by: AllThatSkins | May 29, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse


I vote both.

YES, it was time because he was hurt and YES, too, they are thin at right tackle, altho I might use a different adjective for a position manned by Mike WIlliams.

Great survey question tho.

Posted by: TheCork | May 29, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

I will be on the record for this one, jmicrodoc your a dull one note bore with the creativity, humor and brains of sea sponge.

Posted by: chrislarry | May 29, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

I vote both as well....

Posted by: chrislarry | May 29, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Anyone worried about Jansen signing with the Giants or Eagles and busting up Orakpo real bad? (I'm not).

Posted by: talent_evaluator


Me either. See, these are NFC East teams who make sure they have a top notch OLine, and don’t need a broken down Warrior as a replacement.

Posted by: TheCork | May 29, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Obviously HEYOR, M. WILLIAMS and BRIDGES are in, JANSEN is out. Now both he and WASHINGTON can look for new horizons. Good luck JAKE.

Posted by: glawrence007 | May 29, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Your lack of a response on the last post is the only answer I needed, jmicrodoc.
The only thing more unfunny than a one trick pony is an unfunny one trick pony.

Posted by: 4-12 | May 29, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

This was a bad, weak move. I dont care if he starts. I dont care if he is lining the bench and making over 6 mil for the years on his contract. He was the longest tenured skin, and this is a reflection on the accepted rate of turnover this organization is going through that keeps it running like a restaurant. The food isnt good. The service is horrible, but people have been eating there for years and they cant stop. Samuels is next!

If williams see's the field and plays well, thats all good. If he allows 10 sacks against the NFC East, then we shall be wishing we had Jansen around.

No "this is a business" excuses. You dont run a business like this!

Posted by: Skinalicious | May 29, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Dammit...beaten to the punch by cL

Posted by: 4-12 | May 29, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Jansen was under contract through 2011. He was due to earn a base salary of $1.35 million this season. He was scheduled to receive base salaries of $4.35 million in each of the final two years of his contract.


So how much of this counts towards this years cap? Just the 1.35? They must be counting on no cap next year. I hope so.

Posted by: will_ga | May 29, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

As I read the chart, the release fee for JJ is $6,188,000. I believe that is the cap hit.

Posted by: frediefritz | May 29, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

My mother was a sea sponge... Chris Larry. Your a raciest... or whatever you call a person who is bigoted to other species.

Posted by: alex35332 | May 29, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

I have a different take ... obviously Williams is in and is looking pretty good to Bugel and company. NOT HEYER and BRIDGES.

Still, taking the salary cap hit is going to hurt!!!

All a huge, huge risk ... and its why SI ranks them 24th.

Posted by: periculum | May 29, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Dammit...beaten to the punch by cL

Posted by: 4-12

You and cL are missing the point. Truthfully...the comedy is not meant for you or other Insider trolls.

Posted by: jmicrodoc | May 29, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

$6,188,000: affects the rookie pool and the ability to sign guys like Orapko and possibly Barnes.

Some others will have to go.


Posted by: periculum | May 29, 2009 2:51 PM | Report abuse

a 24th ranking is a compliment after this move!

Posted by: Skinalicious | May 29, 2009 2:51 PM | Report abuse

This is where change for change's sake might work - get Heyer ready - Let Williams know there is a light at the end of the tunnel (in his case it's a straw) and see if Bridges really can move outside. No more status quo. Adios Jon. Vaya con dios.

Posted by: ElYeah | May 29, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

If MWash isn't signed ... I rather doubt that Jansen will be. But you never know.

Posted by: periculum | May 29, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

If i was on the skins roster, I would NEVER restructure my deal, cuz this is what they do. They get you to take that lower base salary, load up the end of the contract with an extension, then poop on your face. Who recalls how many times Jansen has restructured to save this organization some money to pursue expensive bust free agents?

Posted by: Skinalicious | May 29, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Maybe I am alone in feeling this way, but I'm truly ticked off by Jansen's release! He is our longest tenured Redskin and we are thin, thin, thin on the O line. Vinny did not draft O line and we did not sign any real threat free agents (other than Dockery - who is not really a threat).

So, we have no solid O line and Jason Campbell will be on his back most games. We will lose and who will the Skins FO blame? Jason Campbell of course!

Posted by: Lisa_R | May 29, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Jansen was under contract through 2011. He was due to earn a base salary of $1.35 million this season. He was scheduled to receive base salaries of $4.35 million in each of the final two years of his contract.


So how much of this counts towards this years cap? Just the 1.35? They must be counting on no cap next year. I hope so.

Posted by: will_ga | May 29, 2009 1:34 PM | Report abuse

As I read the chart, the release fee for JJ is $6,188,000. I believe that is the cap hit.

Posted by: frediefritz | May 29, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

As further explanation, the $1.35 in 09, $4.35 in '10, and $4.35 in '11 are what JJ would have made in salary if he made the team.

But our cap is reduced by $6.188 for 2009. This is basically previous salaries and bonuses paid in prior years that have been delayed by applying over the longer years of the contract. Since he is no longer on the team, they all hit against the cap this year.

Posted by: frediefritz | May 29, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

"You and cL are missing the point. Truthfully...the comedy is not meant for you or other Insider trolls.

Posted by: jmicrodoc"

You must have been the kid that prank called the same person 20 times a day, then thought it was even funnier on the 21st try.

Whatever makes you happy...

Posted by: psps23 | May 29, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

LEt's see. The Redskins have at RT the following:

1. Heyer
2. MWilliams
3. Bridges

Someone tell me how we are thin at that position again? Bridges looks like an up and comer....

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 29, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Plus a 6 mill cap hit means orakpo is skipping camp unsigned!

Posted by: Skinalicious | May 29, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Redskins beat writer Jason La Canfora of the Washington Post is heading to NFL Network, a source with knowledge of the situation tells us. La Canfora will join a stable of NFL reporters that has been filling the shoes previously occupied by Adam Schefter. Schefter, though still technically employed by NFLN, will be moving to ESPN after his contract expires in August.

Posted by: periculum | May 29, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

No, they're thin at right tackle.

By Cindy Boren | May 29, 2009; 2:27 PM ET

Got me, Cindy B. How can they be "thin at right tackle" when they have a 385 pounder out there?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 29, 2009 2:56 PM | Report abuse

"and we are thin, thin, thin on the O line."

We're not really "thin" on the o-line. We're just missing front-line talent. And Jansen wasn't that. He didn't add anything that Heyer, Williams, and Bridges won't have.

Posted by: psps23 | May 29, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Couldn't the Skins have atleast waited til the (June 1?) date to release Jansen where the cap hit gets pushed to the following year?

Posted by: dupsilon | May 29, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Jansen was a great modern day skin, who played hard, tough and good. Sorry to see him go, although from a football perspective in 2009, it makes sense.

Good luck Jansen!

Posted by: chrislarry | May 29, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Just wanna bandwagon hop here...agree entirely agree chrislarry.

Big Jon is an all time Redskin Warrior, who has grown (as they all do) too long in the tooth. Best wishes to him and his family in all their future endeavors. I hope he catches on somewehre if that is what he truly desires to do. Thanks for ten great years.

Good leadership and management requires making sometimes difficult and unpopular yet correct decisions. This is one of them. Well done Redskins management.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | May 29, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Someone tell me how we are thin at that position again? Bridges looks like an up and comer....

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 29, 2009

1. Samuels. (Serious injuries I/R last year)
2. Heyer. (Not considered a starter, decent backup)
3. M. Williams. (Not played in 2-3 years.)
4. Bridges. (Considered a high risk gamble.)

Yup, they be very, very short.

Posted by: periculum | May 29, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

I can't say that I have a problem with JJ's release, perhaps 1 to 2 years over due. Best of luck to him, but perhaps its time to hang them up....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 29, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

periculum
News flash thats 24 hours old.

Posted by: alex35332 | May 29, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Couldn't the Skins have atleast waited til the (June 1?) date to release Jansen where the cap hit gets pushed to the following year?

Posted by: dupsilon | May 29, 2009 2:57 PM

No. There was a roster bonus involved and, anyway, because of the uncapped year they're not postponing cap hits like in the past.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 29, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Jason LaCanfora leaving the Post for NFL Network

By Spence | May 29, 2009
That's right, Jason LaCanfora, the combative Redskins beat reporter for the Washington Post, is leaving his job at the newspaper and going to work for the NFL Network, where the man who loathed him the most -- Redskins owner Dan Snyder -- will be obliged to pay 1/32nd of his salary. [The NFL Network is owned by NFL owners.] LaCanfora is doing the right thing for himself, since talking about sports and news is currently a lot more financially rewarding that writing about it.

LaCanfora had a disputatious relationship with the Redskins management for years. GM/Butler Vinny Cerrato refused to talk to Cerrato and blasted him constantly on that godawful radio show he had on WTEM. Witless Redskins mouthpiece Larry Michaels had a brain-dead segment on his Redskins cable TV show devoted to mocking LaCanfora. However, LaCanfora frequently broke important stories and remained a tenacious chronicler of the Redskins doings and mis-doings. Perhaps LaCanfora should have been the bigger man and not responded to the insults from Redskins management, but he did -- often -- and it led some Redskins fans to regard LaCanfora as hostile to the team. [He wasn't, only hostile to the incompetent and hyper-sensitive team management.]

No doubt the Redskins and Post hope they can re-start their relationship and make it less antagonistic from now on. We'll see how long that lasts. Any person or media outlet that is properly critical of the dismal way the Redskins are run is going to earn the enmity of Dan Snyder and his various cronies. I hope Mr LaCanfora's replacement will be as probing and combative as he was.

Posted by: periculum | May 29, 2009 3:01 PM | Report abuse

As I read the chart, the release fee for JJ is $6,188,000. I believe that is the cap hit.
Posted by: frediefritz | May 29, 2009 2:47


Thanks, wow that's a steep price to pay. So we're riding the ragged edge of disaster with the cap. Nice strategy if it works. Chafing that Gold Bond can't fix if it doesn't.

Posted by: will_ga | May 29, 2009 3:01 PM | Report abuse

2. Heyer. (Not considered a starter,

Who was the Redskins starting right tackle in their first game last year??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 29, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

The Washington Post, that bastion of accurate sports information, has the following definitive information listed on its Skins roster:

77 Mike Williams T 6-6 370 1/11/1980 Dallas, TX Texas

Perhaps JaLaCan is taking a few lbs with him?

Posted by: ElYeah | May 29, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse

This was a bad, weak move. I dont care if he starts. I dont care if he is lining the bench and making over 6 mil for the years on his contract. He was the longest tenured skin, and this is a reflection on the accepted rate of turnover this organization is going through that keeps it running like a restaurant. The food isnt good. The service is horrible, but people have been eating there for years and they cant stop. Samuels is next!

If williams see's the field and plays well, thats all good. If he allows 10 sacks against the NFC East, then we shall be wishing we had Jansen around.

No "this is a business" excuses. You dont run a business like this!

Posted by: Skinalicious

You're right, we should sign him to a 10 year extension, just cause hes been here a long time. Who cares how he performs?

I wanted him gone, but next year when it would actually save us money. But I guess if were set as far as what moves were making, it doesnt matter.

Posted by: Rypien11 | May 29, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse

More fun with JLa!


Cheap Seats Daily:Will Dan Snyder Sign La Canfora’s Paychecks? Is Joe Biden the Anti-Arnold?

Posted by Dave McKenna on May. 29, 2009

Jason La Canfora goes to work for Dan Snyder?

That’s essentially what Pro Football Talk is saying. According to the site, La Canfora has been hired away from the Washington Post by the NFL Network, the future cable powerhouse owned by the NFL, which is run by the NFL owners, none brasher than Snyder.

On some levels, the departure was inevitable. La Canfora was good enough at his job, as the Post’s Skins beat writer and the force behind Redskins Insider, the paper’s most popular sports blog, to cause the Skins organization to launch a campaign against him. Snyder’s message board, extremeskins.com, his media mouthpiece, Larry Michael, and his, well, everything else, Vinny Cerrato, all went crazy trying to attack La Canfora.

Michael had “The Sourcerer,” a silly feature used on a Skins cable TV show to belittle everything La Canfora wrote. And then things got really ugly when Snyder gave Cerrato, who would “no comment” every question from La Canfora for his Post stories, a radio show on the sports station he owns, WTEM. Cerrato railed against the beat writer as soon as he got on the air.

The lowpoint of the feud came with Cerrato and Michael accusing La Canfora of tattling to the NFL in hopes of getting the league to launch a tampering investigation of the Redskins. (Tampering? Snyder?)

La Canfora fought ugliness with ugliness, calling Cerrato a liar and mocking the organization in emails to detractors. As predicted in this space many times, the beat wasn’t big enough for both Cerrato and La Canfora to stay on another season.

Cerrato kept his football job, though the radio gig was such a disaster it can’t come back. So it’s La Canfora heading off, leaving writing for talking, as all typists aspire to do.

But, working for Snyder?

Aw, what the heck? That’s the eventual fate of us all.

Posted by: periculum | May 29, 2009 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Got me, Cindy B. How can they be "thin at right tackle" when they have a 385 pounder out there?

Posted by: talent_evaluator

Good Point...Mike Williams eviscerates any notion of "thin"...

Posted by: jmicrodoc | May 29, 2009 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Maybe I am alone in feeling this way, but I'm truly ticked off by Jansen's release! He is our longest tenured Redskin and we are thin, thin, thin on the O line. Vinny did not draft O line and we did not sign any real threat free agents (other than Dockery - who is not really a threat).

So, we have no solid O line and Jason Campbell will be on his back most games. We will lose and who will the Skins FO blame? Jason Campbell of course!

Posted by: Lisa_R | May 29, 2009 2:53 PM


Lisa - Zorn cut him, not Vinny. He wanted him cut before last season began. Buges is losing his power.

RT isn't a problem. We have depth. We may need a back up center and an aqdditional back up gaurd, but we are set as far as out starter and imediate back ups.

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 29, 2009 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Hey we're the most popular Sports Blog!

Must be the cast of characters? ... ~wicked smiles~

Posted by: periculum | May 29, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Williams is so big that he takes up 3 roster spots. and can play tackel and center at the same time (don't want to see where the guard plays)

Posted by: alex35332 | May 29, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

RT isn't a problem. We have depth. We may need a back up center and an aqdditional back up gaurd, but we are set as far as out starter and imediate back ups.

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 29, 2009

Au contraire ... Its guard where they may not have a problem. Williams can play guard more easily than tackle, as can Bridges, plus they do have Rhinehart. Burley can also play guard. There is always Kendall.

Its TACKLE!!! Not JUST right tackle BUT left tackle. Samuel's still has not completely recovered from last year's season ending injury. Chances are he may suffer more injuries!

Tackle is the harder position to manage.

But I agree they do need a backup center ... somehow somewhere.

Posted by: periculum | May 29, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Can I get a link to that Priest Holmes?

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 29, 2009 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Lisa, I agree with your conclusion about Jason Campbell as the eventual likely scapegoat... but you didn't think Jon Jansen would really have made much of a contribution to a "solid O line" this season, did you? Or that, for the service he would have provided, he would have been worth retaining at his price tag?

Tough to lose a player like this, but in this case I would say it should have happened after his injury, but the team was hamstrung by that ridiculous contract extension.

Posted by: NateinthePDX | May 29, 2009 3:10 PM | Report abuse

We're not really "thin" on the o-line. We're just missing front-line talent. And Jansen wasn't that. He didn't add anything that Heyer, Williams, and Bridges won't have.

Posted by: psps23 | May 29, 2009 2:57 PM

Agreed. Jansen adds no more additional value than Heyer or Bridges. Embrace the dead money now and get it over with. I hope we can walk into next year's draft with all of our early draft picks and select a bunch of fattys.

Posted by: jmicrodoc | May 29, 2009 3:10 PM | Report abuse

We will lose and who will the Skins FO blame? Jason Campbell of course!

Posted by: Lisa_R | May 29, 2009

Concisely stated as always. That is the next season in a nutshell.

Posted by: periculum | May 29, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Last year, 4th and 1 vs the jints. Key play. Skins hand the ball to Portis, who gets nailed the moment he gets the ball. The play loses a couple yards and we turn over the ball.

I watch the replay. Two guys line up outside Jansen. Both head towards the backfield with the snap. Jansen can block either of them. Jansen blocks neither of them. The first guy past Jansen is the one that makes the play.

It was a failure that you'd expect from a raw rookie, not a 10 year vet who's 'strength' is run blocking.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | May 29, 2009 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Open letter to Snidely Owl of Woodward high and his Stooge Vinny "the cut" Cerrato ... (well Cerrato does mean "cut" ... kind of fitting for the job dontcha know?):

I am still here even if Jason isn't ...

~really wicked smiles~

Posted by: periculum | May 29, 2009 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Who was the Redskins starting right tackle in their first game last year??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 29, 2009

He easily ranks 4th in the division among starting right tackles. That's a backup on most good teams.

Posted by: periculum | May 29, 2009 3:16 PM | Report abuse

RT isn't a problem.

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 29, 2009 3:04 PM

And, even if RT were a problem, Jon Jansen isn't a solution.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 29, 2009 3:18 PM | Report abuse

periculum
News flash thats 24 hours old.

Posted by: alex35332 | May 29, 2009

I know, just catching up on my Snidely Owl baiting.

Posted by: periculum | May 29, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

And, even if RT were a problem, Jon Jansen isn't a solution.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 29, 2009 3:18 PM

This could be another move to get "younger" across the board. I anticipate Randy Thomas to be next...and then Samuels.

Posted by: jmicrodoc | May 29, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

I will not cry for Jansen.

Muti-million dollar dude...
Carved out a great career for himself...
Fan favorite.

Why so somber?

I don't think that he would've contributed that much anyway. So to say that his release diminishes the line some how, well, I just don't see it.

He should be thanked by those who are a part of the Redskins organization and the fans, then, he should be shown the door.

Posted by: RedDMV | May 29, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

2. Heyer. (Not considered a starter

peric, I wasn't talking about other teams, don't get off topic. You stated he wasn't considered a starter. Just that he started the 2008 season, as the STARTING RT for the Redskins.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 29, 2009 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Can I get a link to that Priest Holmes?

Posted by: 4thFloor | May 29, 2009

You know me I post the whole article ... :)

rade: 59 | Key
Alert: None

Comment: He was a rookie free agent last year who has very good size with adequate athletic ability. He was thrown into the fire quickly in the first game after Jon Jansen was lost for the season against Miami. He struggled early, but then showed improvement as he gained experience during the season. He did not take over as the starting RT until Week 12 and at this time is better suited to be a backup. In the run game, he lacks explosion on contact. He will get overextended and not bring his feet. He had adequate success sealing angles with his size and will be wide with his hands. He is a wall-off blocker rather than a road grater. He is inconsistent on mesh combo's and struggles to adjust when attempting to climb. He shows limited knee bend and tends to be a catcher. In pass pro, he will be upright in his set and slide. He has adequate foot quickness, but lacks good knee bend. Low rushers can walk him back when he's upright and he will struggle to sink weight and recover. He shows limited foot quickness when reacting to counters. He has size and is young enough to improve with experience. He has certain athletic limitations, but he can be an adequate young backup for the future.

Posted by: periculum | May 29, 2009 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Red, agreed....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 29, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

For what it's worth - Randy Thomas was on Redskins Nation 2 weeks ago and he said Chad Rinehart is looking good (well as good as anyone can look in a Tshirt and shorts). And he can play both Tackle and Guard.

Posted by: Lisa_R | May 29, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Just that he started the 2008 season, as the STARTING RT for the Redskins.

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 29, 2009

He has started at LEFT TACKLE. Last year and the year before. Do you consider him an adequate replacement for Samuels?

Posted by: periculum | May 29, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

... obviously Williams is in and is looking pretty good to Bugel and company. NOT HEYER and BRIDGES. ...

Posted by: periculum | May 29, 2009 2:49 PM

Yes, its obvious. Obvious based on ... um ... er ... nothing. Scratch that. Not obvious.

Posted by: dcsween | May 29, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Vinny and Danny are out!!! oh, sorry... jumped the gun on that one....

Posted by: 1of9000 | May 29, 2009 3:32 PM | Report abuse

He easily ranks 4th in the division among starting right tackles. That's a backup on most good teams.

Posted by: periculum | May 29, 2009 3:16 PM

Ranking 4th out of 4 in in one of the better division's in football doesn't automatically make you a backup on most good teams. Look at his improvement over his short career (like people do with JC). With the coaching he's been getting, he will wind up being among the better RTs in the league. I think the coaching staff sees that now and are ready to move on and don't need a disgruntled former starter around.

Posted by: learnedhand1 | May 29, 2009 3:32 PM | Report abuse

This could be another move to get "younger" across the board. I anticipate Randy Thomas to be next...and then Samuels.

Posted by: jmicrodoc | May 29, 2009 3:20 PM

More likely, it's a move to get "better" across the board. Thomas and Samuels will be next if the Skins can find someone "better."

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 29, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

I don't get releasing JJ. I can just see it, late October/early November, the skins scrambling around looking for a guard or a tackle off the street because everyone's hurt. It'll probably happen against Philly, during the 4th quarter. They'll have to put Haynesworth in at tackle and have Cooley chipping to help out.

Then the following week everyone will be wondering if JJ is still in shape. But he won't be, retired, he became a huge fan of the Williams diet and blew up to 400 lbs in three months of sitting on his butt. I can just see Vinny standing at the podium wide eyed (he always looks as though people are yelling SURPRISE! at him), saying the usual, "These things happen... We just have to find someone on the team who can step up..." You wouldn't have to find someone if you drafted them moron, or released people that you need.

OK, breathe in... breathe out... I feel better now.

Posted by: clark202 | May 29, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

More likely, it's a move to get "better" across the board. Thomas and Samuels will be next if the Skins can find someone "better."

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 29, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

How is having a greenhorn backing up Heyer "better"?

Only one way -- if Jansen was pissy about going second string. As far as I can tell, nobody's reporting that the move saves the Skins money. It only opens up the roster spot.

Posted by: WorstSeat | May 29, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

how is either williams, or bridges a green-horn, or did your thought process not get that far....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 29, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

How is having a greenhorn backing up Heyer "better"?

Posted by: WorstSeat | May 29, 2009 3:43 PM |

I'd put it the other way: How is having a greenhorn worse than Jansen?

You may not have watched Jansen last year? He can't play in the league anymore. Stick a fork in him -- he's done.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 29, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | May 29, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

As far as I can tell, nobody's reporting that the move saves the Skins money. It only opens up the roster spot.

Posted by: WorstSeat | May 29, 2009 3:43 PM |

You didn't even read the reporting. Jansen would be due a roster bonus, plus a workout bonus. That's the money it's saving the 'Skins.

What it's not saving is cap space.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 29, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

... at this time is better suited to be a backup. In the run game, he lacks explosion on contact. He will get overextended and not bring his feet. He had adequate success sealing angles with his size and will be wide with his hands. ... He is inconsistent on mesh combo's and struggles to adjust when attempting to climb. He shows limited knee bend and tends to be a catcher. In pass pro, he will be upright in his set and slide. He has adequate foot quickness, but lacks good knee bend. ... He shows limited foot quickness when reacting to counters. ...

Posted by: periculum | May 29, 2009 3:23 PM

Yeah, none of this can be improved with coaching and training.

Posted by: dcsween | May 29, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

You didn't even read the reporting. Jansen would be due a roster bonus, plus a workout bonus. That's the money it's saving the 'Skins.

What it's not saving is cap space.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | May 29, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Man, you're a real logician, talent.

From the Examiner:
"He’ll count approximately $4.6 million against the salary cap this season and next, about the same amount that he would have had he remained a Redskin."

He counts the same gone as here. All that's gained is a roster spot if the Examiner's right.

Get off the roids. It'll calm you down.

Posted by: WorstSeat | May 29, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

sorry, but from the last thread :

"The Redskins management is a joke. They draft zero lineman in this draft, and then release an experienced lineman while keeping a 400lb. lineman who has not played in three years. It is very hard to root for this team.

Posted by: skinsflorida"

MORON POST OF THE DAY ALERT

no crap it comes from someone who would put the disgusting word/state 'florida' in their screenname


NEWSFLASH you imply that you wanted us to draft OL in the draft, which I can probably say is because a guy like Jansen SUCKS.

Now you're mad because a guy that SUCKS was cut from the team.


MORON POST OF THE DAY ALERT

Posted by: TheTruth11 | May 29, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

and what happened to JLC?

did someone say he moved to the NFL Network?

lol?

Posted by: TheTruth11 | May 29, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

And yes, when I say money, I mean cap space. What's real money to Neon Danny? If you're going to bore that distinction into the ground, and think saving a million cash is the difference maker in a Snyder-run organization, well, you're done here.

Posted by: WorstSeat | May 29, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

They get you to take that lower base salary, load up the end of the contract with an extension, then poop on your face. Who recalls how many times Jansen has restructured to save this organization some money to pursue expensive bust free agents?

Posted by: Skinalicious

Dude, don't get bent out of shape about Jansen 'cause: 1. He'll be picked up by another team and 2. He made more money in his ten years here than you and everyone else here will probably made in their LIVES!

Posted by: tripz | May 29, 2009 4:58 PM | Report abuse

The .500 DEADskins are going nowhere in the post season this year so why keep around some over $$$$$..... too old..... and nicked up....... back up OT.

LOSE with a younger guy.... maybe with an upside...than LOSE with an over the hill guy with zero upside.

Posted by: unc1dmo | May 29, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Sadly, it was time to go....and judging by the oozing puss that passes for "fan" comments in RI, he won't miss the joint

Posted by: mdrockjock | May 29, 2009 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Don't be sad. Now when the Skin's pathetic excuse for a QB plays like crap all his idiotic fans can whine about how much better he would be if he had a good o-line.

Posted by: theBozyn | May 29, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse

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