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Zorn Discusses Busy Day

From Jason: On his weekly radio appearance on ESPN980, Jim Zorn said that Shaun Alexander had been in for his workout, that the team had put safety Reed Doughty on injured reserve and was preparing to sign safety Michael Green.

Zorn said Alexander's workout went well. "He looked fit," Zorn said.

He also went over the injury to Reed Doughty.

"His back has not responded well," Zorn said. "He still has numbness in his feet from his back. We're going to figure out what that is, and we just needed more time."

Announcements on all the moves are expected within the hour.

By Emilio Garcia-Ruiz  |  October 14, 2008; 4:22 PM ET
 
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Ed Werder's piece on espn dot com is pretty funny. Says they are talking "multiple picks, but not a first rounder". He also goes on to say that the boys might be hesitant to bring Williams in because they are "concerned about how Owens would react to the addition of another prominent receiver and the possibility it would diminish his role rather than provide him occasional single coverage. The potential negative effect on the overall offensive chemistry is also a concern and some in the organization prefer to wait until the offseason to make such a move."
Can you imagine having to consider how your your prima -donna, team imploding WR will react before you make any roster moves? Wow.....

Posted by: dlhaze1 | October 14, 2008 4:24 PM |

Posted by: dlhaze1 | October 14, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

pointless

Posted by: connskins | October 14, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Thirst!

Posted by: mikeysuperdons | October 14, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

At least pacman was suspended indefinately.

Posted by: Gweez | October 14, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Back numbness sounds scary. I would not want that.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 14, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Oh yeah, it could get real fun in BIG D!

Posted by: craig2 | October 14, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Just wanted to let everyone know that I am willing to come out of the radio booth to hold a clipboard for Brad Johnson. Too bad I can't punt, or I'd be at Redskins Park right now.

Posted by: BabeLaufenberg | October 14, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

someone mentioned how bad it would be having to okay any roster moves with your primadonna player before doing them

but an addendum, imagine having to do that with a sick WR at the level of Roy Williams that will obviously increase the talent level of your whole offense.


TO gets a bad rap sometimes and reporters do go overboard, but the dude is just incredibly selfish. Someone should make him work at the Department of Motor Vehicles with Red to eat some humble pie.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | October 14, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Sorry for Reed for sure, he has been such a feel good story.

Reportedly, the Lions also are sending a 7th round pick to Dallas along with RW for the 'Boys' 1st, 3rd, and 6th round picks.

Ryan Plackemeier is gonna be the new punter, I know that was already posted here (not by the "reporter" that works here mind you), they still haven't decided what to do with Brooks.

It's funny to me that none of this news was broken by the "Redskins Insider" himself, aint' that what he is for?

Posted by: craig2 | October 14, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

I wonder who it is in Detroit that made that trade, they don't have a GM?

Posted by: craig2 | October 14, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

+++… how about some credit for Horton he was passed over several times by all the great GM's.
Posted by: Flounder21+++

Absolutely Flounder.I particularly liked the way Vinny threw all those other great GMs off the scent by passing on Horton and y’know, picking Tryon and Brooks ahead of him, then snatching him at the ol’ 249th position. Is that genius, or what!

Posted by: TheCork | October 14, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

To quote hank hill, that boy ain't right.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 14, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

there was a post right before this guys:

News:
Ryan Plackemeier is the new punter!!!

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/10/ryan_plackemeier_is_the_skins.html

Posted by: dealer1 | October 14, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

and apparently Shaun Alexandar has *OFFICIALLY* signed with the Washington Redskins.


breaking news?

Posted by: TheTruth11 | October 14, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Lol! "Are you Chinese or Japanese?"!

Posted by: mikeysuperdons | October 14, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

I wonder who it is in Detroit that made that trade, they don't have a GM?

Posted by: craig2 | October 14, 2008 4:32 PM
10 bonus points says it's drew rosenhaus.....

Posted by: dlhaze1 | October 14, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

I wonder who it is in Detroit that made that trade, they don't have a GM?

I believe it's none other than former 'Skin Martin Mayhew.

Posted by: EpsteinsMothersDoctor | October 14, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Detroit's interim GM used to play in the Skins secondary ... Mayhew?

What exactly was Plackenmeier's injury? I hope it wasn't back spasms and tingly toes ... the scourge of Hasselbeck and not Doughty. If so, I hope its not contagious.

Posted by: dcsween | October 14, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

... the scourge of Hasselbeck and NOW Doughty.

Posted by: dcsween | October 14, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Mayhew and Millen were teammates on the 1991 World hampion Washington Redskins. Small world.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | October 14, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

DOH!
World Champion, that is

Posted by: dlhaze1 | October 14, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

So Schefter says the boys gave up a 1st, 3rd, and 6th round pick. They also lose their 4th rounder for Pacman - HA! Good for you Jerry, good for you.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | October 14, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Hey, while all this to-ing and fro-ing is going on, please, spare a thought for the poor guy who does the contracts for the Redskins.

He probably thought he was done for the year when Jason Taylor soaked up about 98.4% of your available cap room back in August....

And with that, I bid you all good bye.

Posted by: Redcoat | October 14, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Way to go Mayhew!

I don't know how I didn't know that, bad for me!

Plackemeier is another Ray Guy award winner, had decent numbers in his two years, better than Brooks anyway.

Alexander gets an opportunity to show he can still play, he won't likely make it past our bye week, but he better come in here and make good things happen when he gets the chance.

If there was any question how much say in personnel Zorn really has, I would guess that today has answered that pretty well. Vinny wouldn't have gone after Alexander on his own I don't think. That's Zorn saying, hey let's talk to Shaun.

Maybe even the same goes for the punter too.

Posted by: craig2 | October 14, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Interesting article today from SI I was reading earlier but am too lazy to go find the link.

Guy was talking about the difference between the Giants organization and the Cowgirls organization right now. Plaxico misses practice and doesn't apologize and he is benched and they go out and dominate.

Pacman fights his bodyguard late at night in a hotel at a party and we get Jerruh Jones doing damage control saying "Nothing is wrong."


What a pitiful organization. It is on the way to Oakland Raiders level and I'll love every minute of it!

Posted by: TheTruth11 | October 14, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

From the Seattle paper (Sept. 9th), sounds like the punter move was destined to happen to complete the whole carousel of "these things happen in threes" ...

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/football/378450_hawk10.html

While the move on Plackemeier might seem like a surprise, the club set the signing of [Jon] Ryan in motion Monday by having him in for a workout.

Ryan, who was born in Regina, Saskatchewan, averaged 44.5 yards the past two seasons for the Packers. He was released last week when the Packers signed former Redskins punter Derrick Frost. This summer, Ryan averaged 54.8 yards (with a net of 44.5) in the final two preseason games, but his averages were 37.0 and 31.3 in the opener.

"Jon is a great guy. He's done a great job here," Packers general manager Ted Thompson told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. "I think consistency might have been the overriding factor."

It was with Plackemeier. He had a 56-yarder and a 52-yarder among his 11 punts against the Bills, but also a pair of 22-yarders and a 31-yarder -- not to mention a 46-yarder that was returned for a touchdown.

Plackemeier missed most of training camp after tearing a pectoral muscle lifting weights at the final minicamp in June, and had struggled with his consistency since returning -- in practice, as well as in the opener.

Posted by: dcsween | October 14, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Do the Lions have some weird letter M hiring requirement? Matt Millen...Martin Mayhew...Marty Mornhinweg... Marinelli...Mariucci...

Posted by: EpsteinsMothersDoctor | October 14, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

TO gets a bad rap sometimes and reporters do go overboard, but the dude is just incredibly selfish. Someone should make him work at the Department of Motor Vehicles with Red to eat some humble pie.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | October 14, 2008 4:30 PM

Wow imagine that--you're able to relate to Terrell Owens. Damn! Really? I wonder why?

Maybe it because both you you come off as whiney needy little biatches, who have serious issues with bipolar.

Well truth, I'm in front of my monitor right now, and I see that your '86 yugo that you have listed as being garaged at your double wide trailer that you share with your daddy Cletus, your mama BillyJoe, and your brother Dante, isn't correctly listed in our systems.

We'd appreciate if you get those documents over to us as soon as you can. No, your picture at Chuckie Cheese for your 16th birthday will not count. And tell your retarded mother that we don't have your dental records, so your baby teeth won't suffice. We'll gladly take a food stamp statement, and the last annual inspection you had on your double wide.


Good day everyone. Like it or not I'll be back tomorrow. Minus this ratfucc hopefully.

Posted by: RedDMV | October 14, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is essentially a game of musical chairs with punters between the Skins, Packers and Seahawks.

Plackenmeir goes down in Seattle and they sign Green Bay's punter (name escapes me). Frost released from Skins and goes to GB, and now Plackenmeir is here.

Did I get that right?

Posted by: RambleOn | October 14, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

The next (obvious) question is whether Brooks travels up to Green Bay to beat out Frost ... again.

[Or whether Dallas picks him up to replace injured McBriar ... Brooks is a country music fan ... he might like it there ...]

Posted by: dcsween | October 14, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

++LIONS TRADE ROY WILLIAMS TO COWBOYS_+++
See... THIS is what a REAL GM does.

And by that, I mean the Cowboys, who just bought themselves a championship. Remember, before making his three non-playing picks at receiver, Vinny tried to trade TWO NUMBER ONE PICKS for Chad Johnson.

The brilliant thing is, Dallas did it as Pacman was suspended-so Goodell won't DARE investigate the swindle Dallas perpetrated on th GM-free Detroits.

Posted by: TheCork | October 14, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, Sween, you beat me to it.

Posted by: RambleOn | October 14, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

I loved Martin Mayhew back in the day...

Posted by: chrislarry | October 14, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

And by that, I mean the Cowboys, who just bought themselves a championship. Remember, before making his three non-playing picks at receiver, Vinny tried to trade TWO NUMBER ONE PICKS for Chad Johnson.

The brilliant thing is, Dallas did it as Pacman was suspended-so Goodell won't DARE investigate the swindle Dallas perpetrated on th GM-free Detroits.

Posted by: TheCork | October 14, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse


Cork, you don't think you're being a bit dramatic here. No one has won anything yet.

Posted by: Gweez | October 14, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Get his name right--it is Martin "Toast" Mayhew, for those who remember his time here at corner

Posted by: docjohnson | October 14, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

RW = picks down the khazi. I would be doing my conkers if we'd sold our picks down the river.

Posted by: mikeysuperdons | October 14, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

TheCork, you do realize this is the beginning of the end for Dallas right?

You think TO likes having a player just as good as him on the team? No way! This team is destined to fail. Brad Johnson will throw more balls to Williams in the second game, TO complains and a meltdown ensues. BOOK IT!

Posted by: TheTruth11 | October 14, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

This seems like an awful lot of roster moves, seems like an awful lot of something like panic... all of sudden we're 4-2 and have glaring issues at punter, RB depth and safety depth... better situation than many teams, to be sure, but I hate all this nonsense...

Wonder how Vinny's radio show affected his ability to deal with these issues... I'm half joking...

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 14, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

And by that, I mean the Cowboys, who just bought themselves a championship.

Really Cork? You're crowning them? Please. Williams is good, but certainly doesn't guarantee them anything. So now if they are lucky, they get 14 pro bowlers this year. I still think we can knock em off at home, if our secondary is healthy. Dallas is really banged up, an also due to implode. TO is gonna be mighty cranky with another stud WR on the roster.

Posted by: dlhaze1 | October 14, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Funny how someone mentioned that why would we want S. Alexander when teams like Cincy and Detroit passed on them. Well you have your answer right there, because a successful franchise should do exactly the OPPOSITE of what these 2 teams do, amirite.

And face it truth you’re a regular, get over it…you’re here everyday carrying on your flirting man love…gimme a break it’s obvious to everyone BUT you apparently.

Posted by: bms46and2 | October 14, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Is Brooks officially released yet? Or IR'd? Still in limbo?

Posted by: 4-12 | October 14, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

RambleOn, you got it man, it's kinda funny to me.

Very interesting stuff here. Zorn is having an impact on the roster for sure. This front office hasn't done any kind of business with Seattle people for ever, Zorn comes in, and he obviously has some say in the personnel.

I hope it works out obviously, but I also like it. Vinny and Snyder are NOT calling all the shots.

Very good.

Posted by: craig2 | October 14, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Didn't every team that's won the Super Bowl "buy" themselves a championship? Or did someone once win it all with a bunch of guys playing for free?

Posted by: EpsteinsMothersDoctor | October 14, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

and I know I've already said it, but news of Shaun Alexander officially signing has already broken. He's a Redskin now.

Hrm.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | October 14, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

"And face it truth you’re a regular, get over it…you’re here everyday carrying on your flirting man love…gimme a break it’s obvious to everyone BUT you apparently.


Posted by: bms46and2 | October 14, 2008 4:53 PM"

don't know what I ever said to you

but I'll let you take cheap shots at me cause if I say anything to you I'm being bitter and "carrying on flirting man love", whatever that means. Good day, sir.

Posted by: TheTruth11 | October 14, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Cork, go root for them then, if you think they're so well run.

Posted by: BeantownGreg | October 14, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Is Brooks officially released yet? Or IR'd? Still in limbo?

Posted by: 4-12 | October 14, 2008 4:53 PM

Funny you mention that. That's actually the test they do to determine the extent of a quad injury ... calypso music and a decreasingly lower bamboo pole.

Nate, just seemed that way ... Betts is probably hurt worse than they are saying, plus with the trade deadline today at 4pm Eastern, Alexander might be some teams post-trade-deadline first thought ... plus other RBs (Addai, McGahee) this weekend. And this Brooks thing has been in the front of the minds of coaches (and EVPs of FO) for a few weeks.

Its just the Roy Williams/Pacman situation that looks like alot of activity ... and it is ... in Dallas ... where THEY are panicking ...

Posted by: dcsween | October 14, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

The brilliant thing is, Dallas did it as Pacman was suspended-so Goodell won't DARE investigate the swindle Dallas perpetrated on th GM-free Detroits.

Posted by: TheCork | October 14, 2008 4:48 PM

My hope is that you mean this in jest: Roy Williams isn't going to help them that much unless he's 1) going to play CB, 2) keeping T.O. from popping off when Roy gets more balls thrown his way, and 3) throwing to himself while Romo's out. He still has yet to learn the offense, so he MIGHT be ready to go by the time the Cowpies limp into FedEx. This move was made for next season once they cut ties with T.O.

Enough about Satan's Team...solid moves by the Skins today. I still think it's a mistake to sign Alexander, but the move does make sense. He's been in the system before and makes a good change of pace for Portis if he's got anything left in the tank. Plakemeier can play and is a definite upgrade at punter; at 24 he could be the long-term answer to the position. And Michael Green is a former starter in this league that provides some quality depth. I hope they still make a play for Stoutmire; we can barely count on Springs to play corner on a weekly basis, I wouldn't put too much faith in him being there as a safety either.

Posted by: brownwood26 | October 14, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

If nothing else, today's trade ensures that the Cowgirls will lead the league in guys named Roy Williams.

Posted by: BabeLaufenberg | October 14, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: countystyle | October 14, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: craig2 | October 14, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Can someone with more knowledge of the rules than me explain why we can't put Brooks on IR? He's got an injury, seems like a good way to lock him up in case we want to bring him back to try out next pre-season. Is it just $?

In other news, the R. Williams deal seems silly and desperate. Cowboys are bailing water out of a ship that wasn't sinking, and consequently ignoring the fire on the front of the hull.

Posted by: AlexBerger1 | October 14, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

The brilliant thing is, Dallas did it as Pacman was suspended-so Goodell won't DARE investigate the swindle Dallas perpetrated on th GM-free Detroits.

Posted by: TheCork | October 14, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

"Swindle?" Really? I think Detroit came out of this smelling like a rose. They get a first, a third and a sixth, which is a lot, for a guy that no one else appeared to be bidding on, and who, in all likelihood, would have left as a free agent in the off-season anyway. The Lions weren't going anywhere with Williams, and now they have some extra picks to speed the rebuilding process for whomever the next Lions' GM turns out to be.

Posted by: rbpalmer | October 14, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Wow, Dallas gave up their 2009 1st, 3rd and 6th round choices for Williams. That a pretty high price.

Posted by: cmecyclist | October 14, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

+++The brilliant thing is, Dallas did it as Pacman was suspended-so Goodell won't DARE investigate the swindle Dallas perpetrated on th GM-free Detroits.

Posted by: TheCork | October 14, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

"Swindle?" Really? I think Detroit came out of this smelling like a rose. They get a first, a third and a sixth, which is a lot, for a guy that no one else appeared to be bidding on, and who, in all likelihood, would have left as a free agent in the off-season anyway. The Lions weren't going anywhere with Williams, and now they have some extra picks to speed the rebuilding process for whomever the next Lions' GM turns out to be.--RB PALMER+++

My post was based on earlier reports the 'pokes had not given up a FIRST rounder.

Of course, WITH Williams, Dallas picks will essentially be worth
a round below their value, especially when you consider who is doing the "picking."

If TO doesn't implode and take the team with him, I still think they are in the driver's seat for the SB.

Let's hear it for a major implosion,

Posted by: TheCork | October 14, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Cork is on crack Dallas defense has been bad all year Philly went up and down the field against them If Mcnabb/Westbrooke could have executed a hand off dallas looses that game.... so now the have 3/4ths of thier secondary gone and sub par linebacking corp...so they get another head case wr???? Jerry Jones is defintely panicking

Posted by: dallassux | October 14, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

This was a great trade for the Lions. The cowpies gave up way too much for Williams.

Plus, they're paying him bazillions to lock him in until 2013.

Plus plus, TeamObliterator is gonna melt down when they have someone on the team who is as big of a big shot as he is and makes the same kind of money as he does.

People have slammed Dan Snyder for making panicky personnel moves, but Jerrahjones is much worse.

BTW, watch out for Brad Johnson. He maybe can't sling it around the field like Romo can, but he is much less likely than Romo to make the Big Boneheaded Boo-boo that loses the game.

Posted by: SkinsfaninNebraska | October 14, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

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