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Zorn Gets First Win (Updated)

From Jason La Canfora:

Wow. Huge comeback. Two late TDs to pull out the win. Tremendous defnesive stand with rookie 7th round pick Chris Horton grabbing his second INT, to go with a fumble recovery (can't recall a Skins having three turnovers like that in a game for a long time).

Jason Campbell changed his protection and moved Betts to pick up a blitz on the bomb. They were in the I formation and he moved Betts to his right. Then threw the heck out of the ball.

The Skins beat up this team and got the W to go with it in wild fashion. What a game. Moss finishes 7 for 164 with a TD.

Okay, gotta get running to the locker room.

Cheers.

By Cindy Boren  |  September 14, 2008; 4:12 PM ET
 
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HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!
HAIL VICTORY!!
BRAVES ON THE WARPATH!!
FIGHT FOR OLD DC!!

Posted by: skinsfaninsanfran | September 14, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Hurricane Moss punished the New Orleans. March on back Saints!!!

Posted by: Horny for Zorny | September 14, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Zorn and Skins play whale of a last 7 minutes!

Congratulations, way to fight your guts out

I couldn't resist [laughter]

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 14, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Was not watching the game, but was going for it on 4th and 2 a smart play...in particular running a pass play?

At least a run play would have kept the clock running or used a timeout.

Not hatin' on the Skins, just concerned our inexperienced coaching staff doesn't understand Xs and Os.

Great win today.

Posted by: isnadd | September 14, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Luckily for Washington, Aaron Glenn went out with the injury. The second-string corner (Porter?) was devoured by every receiver he checked.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

"We had to make a play and we made the play w/ JC to SM"

Norv Turner

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 14, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

By the way, JC had a 104.1 QB rating in this game.

Just so you know.

Posted by: Alan | September 14, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Gutsy, gutsy, gutsy call on 4th and 2, to go for the win. GOOOOO SKIIIIIIIINS!!!

Posted by: dragon2eden | September 14, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Looking at the stats I'm left a bit weak kneed.

300+ yds passing
100+ yds running
25 first downs
AND
WE SCORED 29 POINTS! I mean I realize that is like an average number of points for many teams but we'r not those teams.
: )

WEEEEEEEE

Posted by: sfskin | September 14, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

14 pts in q-4

Hey checkout the Redskins Website, they have the game as a loss 24-15.

Talk about confidence-- LOL

Posted by: skinsfaninsanfran | September 14, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Where are all the Campbell naysayers now?

He looked great. Portis ran with authority. Great effort all around outside of special teams' play. HAIL

Posted by: Gibbskins | September 14, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Awesome. Sell high, 'Skins fans. These days will be few and far between.

Posted by: Tony Romo | September 14, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

14 pts in q-4

Hey checkout the Redskins Website, they have the game as a loss 24-15.

Talk about confidence-- LOL

Posted by: skinsfaninsanfran | September 14, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

For those of you making hurricane jokes about New Orleans, let's show a little more class than that. After all we're Washington Redskins fans, not Philadelphia Eagles fans.

What happened to that city was no fault of their own and frankly our government (in D.C.) deserves a ton of blame for botching up the recovery...

Stay classy Alexandria!

Posted by: isnadd | September 14, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Hello Isnad,
Actually you are incorrect.

On 4th down a running play only keeps the clock running if you actually make the necessary yardage for a first down.

If they had run and not gotten the first down, NO would have gotten the ball w/ a stopped clock.

Just trying to help...

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 14, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

They were lucky to eke out a win here. Suishan's missed FG's were unacceptable, as well as the punter's horrible punting. Zorn needs to really work the special teams out hard this upcoming week. The next team won't be as incompetent as the NO Saints were today.

But on the other hand the offense played well. JC, CB, CC, and SM played very well. The game ball, however, should go to #48 on the defense. His two interceptions were crucial in winning the game.

Posted by: NW DC | September 14, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Awesome. Sell high, 'Skins fans. These days will be few and far between.

Posted by: Tony Romo | September 14, 2008 4:21 PM

Thanks for the advice Tony, now if you guys could just win a playoff game this century.

smooches

Posted by: skinsfaninsanfran | September 14, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

2/3 of the world is covered by water...the other 1/3 is covered by chris horton

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse


4th and two run play
Zorn's lack of faith in punter
Way to go Vinnie!

Posted by: HaikuMan | September 14, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Luckily for Washington, Aaron Glenn went out with the injury. The second-string corner (Porter?) was devoured by every receiver he checked.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 4:20 PM

Injuries are part of the game. The Skins have had their share, so to me this means nothing.

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 14, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

wow great win wow is all I have to say

Posted by: Chris larry | September 14, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

That will shut up the Campbell haters! HTTFR baby!

Posted by: Paul | September 14, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Was not watching the game, but was going for it on 4th and 2 a smart play...in particular running a pass play?

At least a run play would have kept the clock running or used a timeout.

Not hatin' on the Skins, just concerned our inexperienced coaching staff doesn't understand Xs and Os.

Posted by: isnadd | September 14, 2008 4:20 PM

Clock stops either way, isnadd. If a run play fails to get the first, the clock stops on the chaegover .

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

REDSKINS WIN!
REDSKINS WIN!
REDSKINS WIN!

F all you non-believers!

Posted by: The F Guy | September 14, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

At least a run play would have kept the clock running or used a timeout.

Not hatin' on the Skins, just concerned our inexperienced coaching staff doesn't understand Xs and Os.

Great win today.


Posted by: isnadd | September 14, 2008 4:20 PM

Isnadd, you don't even understand the rules of the game. The clock would stop on change of possession. Pitiful. Skins win and you're up here rewriting the rules to be a pr1ck.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 14, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Ray, thanks for the reminder of the rules. That was why I asked.

Posted by: isnadd | September 14, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

They were lucky to eke out a win here. Suishan's missed FG's were unacceptable, as well as the punter's horrible punting. Zorn needs to really work the special teams out hard this upcoming week. The next team won't be as incompetent as the NO Saints were today.

But on the other hand the offense played well. JC, CB, CC, and SM played very well. The game ball, however, should go to #48 on the defense. His two interceptions were crucial in winning the game.

You know it's funny, Frost is over at Green Bay averaging 45 yrds/punt. Brooks is only at 33.

Suishum did a good job with the KO's & the touchbacks, limit the touches, etc.

The next team is AZ at home...so we will see.

Posted by: skinsfaninsanfran | September 14, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Updated the top with Jason La Canfora's analysis of the fourth quarter.

Posted by: Cindy | September 14, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

I will man-up, no problem.

JC frustrated me so much last year.
I posted on here of how I thought he chocked in those close red zone int. last season to lose the games.

Then TC accelerated the offense tremendously and we made our playoff run.

JC stunk in preseason and week one.
I was all over JC.

Today? JC moved the team up and down the field in the first half but still missed reads and throws according to Sonny forcing us to kick FGs.

But in the 4th quarter several good throws, and of course the TD long pass to Moss!
Way to come through in the clutch, JC!
You deserve our praise today!

And hey, JC, way to fight your guts out!

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 14, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Since when did Brandon Lloyd become a special teams force??? Blocked punt in the preseason, returned a blocked punt for a TD today; is this real or am I dreaming?

Posted by: Shocked | September 14, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Was not watching the game, but was going for it on 4th and 2 a smart play...in particular running a pass play?

At least a run play would have kept the clock running or used a timeout.

Not hatin' on the Skins, just concerned our inexperienced coaching staff doesn't understand Xs and Os.

Great win today.


Posted by: isnadd | September 14, 2008 4:20 PM
Run will keep the clock going only if we ake a first down. NO was really bunching up the line, so it is much easier to throw a quick slant. Throw...catch! Game over!

Posted by: frediefritz | September 14, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Chris Horton Hears a Who?!? Fantastic!!!

Posted by: 4 skinz | September 14, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Thank God they played up to their God Given abilities and hustled; however Soupy still stared down Moss on the winner. Hold on... the acorn pie is ready.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

f u anon......injuries hurt all over what's pathetic comment hail skins

Posted by: chris larry | September 14, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

GREAT WIN PERIOD! I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYS, FAN OR NOT! GREAT WIN...THE ENTIRE TEAM STEPPED UP PERIOD!! GREAT WIN!!

Posted by: TEJR3575 | September 14, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Chris Horton Hears a Who?!? Fantastic!!!

Posted by: 4 skinz | September 14, 2008 4:30 PM

Horton heard three who's. Guy's second NFL game and he's already had a career day. How's he ever going to top this. You've got to wonder why Vinnie ever picked him when we needed an O lineman so badly.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 14, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Brooks did struggle but Frost also was safetied today which cost GB and let Detroit back in the game even tho GB did get the win. Portis did everything he could to get us that win, Campbell and Moss made the big plays but CP chugged and put us on his back in between

Posted by: JD | September 14, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Just a nice, nice victory - maybe can carry some momentum into the next two/three games with that...And - let's think about two tipped balls for interceptions - For two solid years, the 'Skins have had NO breaks when it comes to turnovers - it's about TIME that happened

Posted by: John D in Houston | September 14, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Updated the top with Jason La Canfora's analysis of the fourth quarter.

Posted by: Cindy | September 14, 2008 4:28 PM


Cindy, you are very gracious with the use of the word analysis and Jason LaCantreporta in the same sentence.

Posted by: isnadd | September 14, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

well done!!! all things considered...

Posted by: deadskin | September 14, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

JC did stare him down on the last play but i think he knew it was 1-1 coverage there and moss was beating him no matter what

Posted by: PJ | September 14, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

All I can say is: Whew!

Posted by: stumped | September 14, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

What we have come to expect around here:

:::Wow - just wow! With a series of desperate moves, the Redskins managed to come back and squeak out a narrow victory, in spite of the meddling and incompetent front office team of Vinny and Dan. Zorn's efforts to assert himself by ignoring the "red phone to Danny" paid massive dividends today. But will it do any good next week, when the Redskins are sure to be seriously overmatched again?:::

Guess that will be in tomorrow's headline story.

Posted by: The Real Analysis | September 14, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

The outcome is probably a greater surprise to JLC than it is to the Saints.

He consistently dogs this team and gives them no breaks possible.

All the rookies are busts. The coaching is suspect. The veterans are overrated.

Meanwhile, the opposition is always 'so' good.

I can't wait to see JLC have to eat some crow and give these guys credit for the next couple of days in his paper.

Posted by: Roy Hobbs | September 14, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

The 4th down play was pure genius. The defense is stacked for the run completely thinking it's going to be a hard count. The rookie corner had no chance. The only way that play doesn't work is if the qb misses or the wr drops it.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 14, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

You gotta figure a game like this goes a long way to boosting Soups' confidence. You could see it on the field I thought.

He took a couple sacks instead of forcing the ball although tried a couple forces in there.

In those 2 drives for TDs in the 4th he seemed to sense the rush and moved forward in the pocket and ducked a couple tackles. Seeing that makes you feel like given more chances he is what we want him to be.

Posted by: sfskin | September 14, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

JC had a great game. The shotgun is working for him.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

The 4th down play was pure genius. The defense is stacked for the run completely thinking it's going to be a hard count. The rookie corner had no chance. The only way that play doesn't work is if the qb misses or the wr drops it.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 14, 2008 4:36 PM

I'm wondering why we didn't get a TD out of it.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 14, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Talent, I asked a question.

I also said I was not hatin.
I also said the team had a great win today.

Go kick your dog, a-hole.

Posted by: isnadd | September 14, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Records of rookie Redskins Head Coaches.

Joe Gibbs: 0-5

Jim Zorn: 1-1

Posted by: The Peanut Gallery | September 14, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Since when did Brandon Lloyd become a special teams force??? Blocked punt in the preseason, returned a blocked punt for a TD today; is this real or am I dreaming?

Posted by: Shocked | September 14, 2008 4:29 PM

You're dreaming. Ball bounced 20 feet in the air. BL could have made a fair catch under it. No one around him except the guy who blocked the punt. BL walked about 10 yds. into endzone.

He's hardly a force. Probably was dogging it on the play, so no one was anywhere around him.

Posted by: frediefritz | September 14, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

sfskin,

That's exactly right - JC's movement in the pocket. We saw it last year before the injury but not this season - it's reason to believe he can make this happen.

Posted by: bangkokben | September 14, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

I'm wondering why we didn't get a TD out of it.
Posted by: talent evaluator


How can you wonder? You know everything.

Posted by: isnadd | September 14, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Oh Man this feels so sweet. Who cares if we barely squeeked out a win against a mediocre Saints team, we won didn't we. This could be the start of something big, something real big. We want Dallas. We want Dallas.

Posted by: Bud Jackson | September 14, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

You know it wasn't just JLC that's been riding the team. That Fox broadcast today was vile. Brian Billick practically came out and said Zorn was not qualified for the job (remember his friend Fassell lost out to Zorn). And Jimmy Johnson actually did, on the pregame show, wizz all over Snyder, Cerrato, Zorn, and Campbell.

Lot of love up there for Sean Payton, none for Zorn and the 'Skins. Screw Fox. I'm voting Democrat.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 14, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Still think we can improve by finishing drives, truth is we dominated that game, but I still retract everything I said bad about JC this week, he played a hell of a game and took a big time step this week, I hope we just say his ascension to a legit NFL QB this week and not a Philly blip on the radar, but he played great, and I got nothing bad to say about it. And what a performance by our defense, and doughty will never start again.

Posted by: zjfr2 | September 14, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

How can you wonder? You know everything.


Posted by: isnadd | September 14, 2008 4:40 PM

I don't know everything but I know trash when I see it posted up here because it's signed isnaddd.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 14, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

reed doughty, your services are no longer needed. best of luck in the AFL.

Posted by: horton = starter | September 14, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Talent, you're boring.

...and your wife says hi.

Posted by: isnadd | September 14, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Colt would have put this thing away early in the 3rd. Check back in a few weeks after we play another tough team or two before you spread too much jelly on this roll.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Blache interview on Comcast right now. He is hilarious and taking blame for some bad defensive calls.

Comcast guys are all over the place with analysis. Saying it was a squeak out win and lots of problems then saying wow Skins put up some big numbers. . . . sounds like some of us hamsters up here . . I'm pointing fingers at myself.

Posted by: sfskin | September 14, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

I'm thinking that little room Jason Taylor disappeared into is where they keep the magic syringe. . .

Horton did make a huge argument for being a starter but he's still a rookie folks so sending Reed packing is foolish at best. We need all our swingin' souls up in here.

Posted by: sfskin | September 14, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

This was exactly the type of game the Redskins lost last year when Gibbs was running the show. Who wants to go back to those days (besides Leevi)?

Posted by: Calling All Morons | September 14, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Funny how all the fans who respond to JLC's columns screamed to get Campbell out and put Colt Brennan in. What a bunch of idiots. I saw this same Jason Campbell last year on the road, against the Cowboys. Skins lost by 5, but Campbell was drivin' the skins down the field at the end of that game. Campbell threw a interception, but a first year starter is supposed to do that. I expected Campbell to have a much better year this season. Zorn listened to Campbell, and the Skins offense is the best it's looked in years. Go Skins!! Oh yeah if Campbell has 300 passing yards next week like he did today, Skins will beat da Cardinals!!

Posted by: redskins fan | September 14, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

"Injuries are part of the game. The Skins have had their share, so to me this means nothing.

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 14, 2008 4:25 PM "

Actually it means a lot. The gashing pass plays that set up the Portis TDs, not to mention Santana Moss' Back-breaker were all at Porter's expense; when Moss wasn't eating him up, Randle-El was. I understand that Skins fans are happy, but when a corner goes down in the third qtr., and the most successful plays are thrown directly at the backup throughout the last qtr., it sure as hell means something.

That being said, any team that doesn't exploit an obvious mismatch shouldn't be playing checkers, let alone NFL football. Jim Zorn did what he was supposed to do.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Horton did make a huge argument for being a starter but he's still a rookie folks so sending Reed packing is foolish at best. We need all our swingin' souls up in here.

Posted by: sfskin | September 14, 2008 4:47 PM

We're not going to send him packing. Mercy, no. He'll have a good seat right next to Jon Jansen and he'll be ready when we need him.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 14, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Yes, on the Fox pregame today
Jimmy Johnson was very tough on Zorn saying he and the coaching staff are in over their head [paraphrase]

Johnson also said the NFC has three good QBs.
And then there is Jason Campbell
[again paraphrase]

Hopefully today will get some of the media off of their backs; after all it worked getting us off of their backs [laughter]

Congrats Zorn and Skins! 1-1

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 14, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

I had to do a double take when I saw positive comments on RI... but I see Jason was reporting when we were losing but Cindy had to step in at the end since there was nothing negative to say.

Posted by: junki | September 14, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Great win for a team learning a new system. Moved the ball well, stalled in the red zone some, need work on the STs, but the D had a great game.

With this win the offense will gain confidence. Does not look like the CP article did any harm.

And most importantly, got through without losing anyone to injuries.

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 14, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

No, I stepped in briefly because that was the first bulletin I got. Then, when Jason L sent his piece, I put it up there. I just wanted the final, since it was in doubt until the end.

Posted by: cindy | September 14, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

And most importantly, got through without losing anyone to injuries.

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 14, 2008 4:51 PM

This is HUGE, and will be every week a starter doesn't get injured.

Posted by: stumped | September 14, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Will also say that I think overall they had 2 1/2 solid quarters of play on both sides of the ball.

Last year I remember we'd play 1-2 good quarters and fall apart in the rest so either we started slow and never could catch up or we blew a lead and couldn't hold on.

I'm going to spend next few days looking at the Skins the way I'm trying to look at prez election - slow steady improvement that will result in wins but anticipate some really eye gouging moments along the way.

Just put a keg of Kool Aid on ice.

Posted by: sfskin | September 14, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Still think we can improve by finishing drives, truth is we dominated that game, but I still retract everything I said bad about JC this week, he played a hell of a game and took a big time step this week, I hope we just say his ascension to a legit NFL QB this week and not a Philly blip on the radar, but he played great, and I got nothing bad to say about it. And what a performance by our defense, and doughty will never start again.

Posted by: zjfr2 | September 14, 2008 4:42 PM

You're taking it all back after one game? I was against your bashing of him all week, (I say let's get the complete picture after week 8) but this was one game, and it was the saints defense. I hope this will build his confidence and he can get rolling. If I am not mistaken, this qualifies as his first comeback. So HAIL!

Posted by: dlhaze | September 14, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

And most importantly, got through without losing anyone to injuries.

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 14, 2008 4:51 PM

I think we lost some haters to injuries. Looks like the 'Skins just knocked them off their game. They'll be out until the next time the 'Skins lose. Now I know it's wrong to wish injuries on anyone, but I hope the 'Skins keep these guys out of action.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 14, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

The sky is bluer

The grass is greener

Zorn is smarter

Campbell is betterer

The vets are veteranier

The Danny is Dannier

Even Vinnny is Vinnier

God's in his heaven and all's right with the world.

A win will change your perspective.

And my sig.


Posted by: Corkczar, Non-Crotchety Blog Peep | September 14, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

I did not see the game today. Would appreciate a few answers:

1. How did the offense look? Anything original going on? Did it look like a different Skins offense than we have seen in the last few years?

2. Was the o-line solid? Heyer seems like he has had two pretty good weeks of pass protection.

3. Did our defensive line get any pressure on the QB?

Thanks.

Posted by: isnadd | September 14, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Trying to recall if JC ever made any big plays in crunch time to win games last year?

Suisham on the other hand had to nail some nail-biting FG's last year.

So, this was a big deal for JC to lead that long drive and then thrown the TD pass to SM.

Way to go, JC.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 14, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

After this game, I like our chances at home against Arizona. I think our strong defense and offense that is still a work-in-progress match up well against teams like N.O. and AZ that have decent to good offenses but mediocre defenses. It's the teams with excellent D's that I think still present a big challenge--at least until our offense hits its stride.

Posted by: jakeweed | September 14, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Proves once again that we need to let these guys play and then evaluate them after at least 8 games. And also, drafting Horton in the 7th round was good was it not? But I guess it's easier to bash than give props. I appreciate Zorn going for it on 4th and 2 instead of punting and hoping the defense holds them. And maybe, just maybe, our draft was not as bad as many have made it seem. Only time and not us will tell.

Posted by: Dolemite | September 14, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Solid game all around, except for Durant Brooks. Solid win over a good team.

Folks, that didn't look like a typical WCO to me. Zorn did the smart thing and played to the strengths of his talent.

CONGRATS TO JASON CAMPBELL ON HIS FIRST 4TH QUARTER COMEBACK W.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | September 14, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

btw, I know how the Saints fans feel. Up by two points in the fourth quarter, only need to put together a time-consuming drive to put the game away, and you go 3-and-out. Seems like that was the story for the Skins for most of Gibbs 2.0. That, and no ability to make adjustments at the half. So, I'm really freakin' glad to see us come from behind and grab the win.

Posted by: jakeweed | September 14, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Solid game all around, except for Durant Brooks.

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | September 14, 2008 5:07 PM

I am a big fan, but Brooks was a major liability today. And ARE really put us in a hole on that fumble. I don't understand why we can't find a better punt returner than ARE.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 14, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

I think we lost some haters to injuries. Looks like the 'Skins just knocked them off their game. They'll be out until the next time the 'Skins lose. Now I know it's wrong to wish injuries on anyone, but I hope the 'Skins keep these guys out of action.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 14, 2008 5:04 PM

Lost to injuries or worse as the choke on their words.

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 14, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

@ Jakeweed:
NO only has a decent to good offense? all we heard all week was how stopping the Bush and Shockey show would be impossible. I love how a team isn't really that good if the skins beat them. to some I guess the glass is is always half empty.

Posted by: Dolemite | September 14, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Great win. But red zone stunk in the first half, and would have been a loss against a quality opponent like the cowboys or eagles. Bring back Frost.

Posted by: #44 | September 14, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

WHAT I LIKED:

Campbell..quicker and more decisive.

Zorn..better play calling. Got in a rhythm.

Actually saw some different running plays.

When Portis won't shut up, he puts up.

The Oline, which hasn't played as a unit for long in more than started to show that cohesion Olines get when they work together for a while.

Meet the new Moss, same as the Old Moss.

Landry, playing lijke he did at the end of last year, pre-Hammy

McIntosh, playing like he did at the end of last year, pre-knee

H.B. Blades, looking like the steal he was in the sixth round last year.

Posted by: Corkczar, Non-Crotchety Blog Peep | September 14, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Gotta like Zorn going for it on 4th and 2 at the end; good play call too. Loved Gibbs, but had it been him, they would have given the ball back either by punting, missing a FG, or by running a predictable run up the gut to the left. And we would have been biting our nails for a few minutes more. Nice to see us come out on top, with our offense closing out the game. VERY nice.

Posted by: dlhaze | September 14, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Why is Rock not returning punts? ARE (aka Mr. left right left) sucks at punt returns.

Posted by: Dolemite | September 14, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

I did not see the game today. Would appreciate a few answers:
Posted by: isnadd | September 14, 2008 5:04 PM

I am sorry, but questioning play calls. Not knowing the rules, and NOT watching the game!??? Why are you here?? Must be a lonely, lonely. Person. BTW, before you list all of your debutante activities that precluded you from being a fan, and what a loser I am, I just got back from the game. I am a season tix holder...

Posted by: Onepersonsopinion | September 14, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Brooks has not looked good, but I think he needs to be given a chance. He is after all a rookie. His holding will get better and I know his punting will improve.

Many of us were/are saying be patient with JC, Zorn and now it's time to be patient with Brooks. He may have made it tough, but we did win the game.

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 14, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Dolemite,

OK, fair enough. But my main point is the same: our strength is still the defense, especially playing at a pretty high level consistently. Our offense is still spotty: looks great at times, but really struggles at other times. So I think we match up better with teams that have very good offenses and mediocre-to-good defenses than the other way around. So after AZ, I see us 2-1.

Posted by: jakeweed | September 14, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

1. How did the offense look? Anything original going on? Did it look like a different Skins offense than we have seen in the last few years?

Had its ups and downs. Couldn't finish drives in the first half. Jason was good today, but he still locks in on receivers. It was a major improvement over last week and it clicked at the end when it had to.

2. Was the o-line solid? Heyer seems like he has had two pretty good weeks of pass protection.

O-line was good, particularly running to the left. No major gaffs.

3. Did our defensive line get any pressure on the QB?

Good, not great. Taylor had a sack and Cornelius Griffin had a sack. The safeties were beasts and Rocky Mac looked better today. The D really shut them down in the first half.

Posted by: isnadd | September 14, 2008 5:04 PM

At least, that's my take.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 14, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

"H.B. Blades, looking like the steal he was in the sixth round last year"

Wait, you mean the front office made a good draft pick? He's not a high priced free agent bust like Chris Cooley?

Posted by: Dolemite | September 14, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Why I'm NOT Euphoric

Saints were a team made for the 'skins, with a mediocre Oline and injured DBs, adn no Colston.

Don't expect the Oline to stay healthy all season, as they are still old and small.

Dodged a bullet with back seven, with no injuries, despite thinness.

Taylor's health

Top five picks in draft did nothing.

Did team keep the wrong punter?

Two ofnext three games are @ NFC powerhouses.


Posted by: Corkczar, Non-Crotchety Blog Peep | September 14, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Gotta like Zorn going for it on 4th and 2 at the end; good play call too. Loved Gibbs, but had it been him, they would have given the ball back either by punting, missing a FG, or by running a predictable run up the gut to the left. And we would have been biting our nails for a few minutes more. Nice to see us come out on top, with our offense closing out the game. VERY nice.
-dlhaze
____________________________________________

Spot on comment!

Posted by: jakeweed | September 14, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Didja happen to notice how many of the O Line came over to congratulate CP on each of his TDs? One, and it was Heyer, the new guy. Thought that spoke volumes. Also, Randle-El is NOT a punt returner. Way to much North-South and then he dives for the ground before contact. We gotta have somebody who at least poses somewhat of a threat back there.

Posted by: Lee | September 14, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

As a frequent Vinny hater, gotta credit him for Horton... guy has a knack for being around the ball... showed a lot in preseason and now comes through in regular season. I'm excited about him.

Good call on 4th & 2, but would have thrown on 3rd down there bc clock stopped anyway on 2-minute warning. But on 33 yard line, punting doesn't get you much, so why not go for it.

Special teams, special teams... sigh. Needs work. Time to find a new punt returner. Can Rock do it? Maybe Leigh Torrence...

Posted by: beat kal | September 14, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

WHAT I ALSO LIKED BUT FORGOT TO MENTION

CC stopped blogging and started playing fubbal like the old CC

Chris Horton

Posted by: Corkczar, Non-Crotchety Blog Peep | September 14, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Big numbers on offense and defense, period. West coast offense typically takes a while to get going but once it goes it is hard to stop. Add to that a good defense and you have the makings of a very tough team to beat. NYG's throttled St. Louis today and while we were out of synch we still had a chance in that game.

Wake up folks! The SKINS ARE FOR REAL!!!

Posted by: Exhuberance | September 14, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

But on 33 yard line, punting doesn't get you much, so why not go for it.

Posted by: beat kal | September 14, 2008 5:18 PM

Hey this was right up Brooks' wheelhouse. A short, low punt would have been perfect. Unless it rolled into the end zone, of course.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 14, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Talent, I swear you have a dual-personality.

Posted by: isnadd | September 14, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Not sure if it's been said, but the play Campbell made on 2nd and 22 on the 5 yrd line to Cooley seemed to really turn the momentum. It looks like if the line can give Campbell time, he can be very effective.....GO SKINS!

Posted by: Lenniedr | September 14, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

More randoms... why not go to Malcolm Kelly in the red zone? The failures of the past 3 years in the red zone were the whole reason we drafted 2 big receivers this year.

Looks like Rocky is getting back in shape. He'll never look quite as bad as he did getting beaten 1 on 1 against Eli Manning. Good strip vs Shockey.

Few QBs throw as nice a deep ball as JC. He needs to get through his reads faster, as he generally gets flustered as soon as he comes off his primary receiver. Great game, but more work to do there.

Running left was the way to go again... It's weird to see after so much running behind Jansen all these years. Credit to Chris Samuels and Pete Kendall... hope Heyer can pick it up.

A few booming kickoffs from Suisham... is the guy juicing this year? Last year he didn't get them past the 10...

Posted by: beat kal | September 14, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Big numbers on offense and defense, period.

Posted by: Exhuberance | September 14, 2008 5:21 PM

Big numbers on offense and LITTLE numbers on defense -- just the way we like it.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 14, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

@ Jakeweed:
No argument there. The offense is inconsistent, but what do we expect from it when we are constantly changing it? JC may not be the ultimate west coast qb, but if Zorn can grow as a coach, he will tailor his version of the WC to Campbell's strengths. Give Zorn time, just like most other franchises do, they give things time to see if they work. The defense seems to have no dropoff from Gregg, so maybe continuity does count for something.

Posted by: Dolemite | September 14, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

But on 33 yard line, punting doesn't get you much, so why not go for it.

Posted by: beat kal | September 14, 2008 5:18 PM

Hey this was right up Brooks' wheelhouse. A short, low punt would have been perfect. Unless it rolled into the end zone, of course.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 14, 2008 5:21 PM


Yeah, maybe, but the 20-25 yards you get (optimistically) matter less than keeping possession. Saints can make that up on one crossing pattern over the middle (how many of those did we give up?).

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

+++"H.B. Blades, looking like the steal he was in the sixth round last year"

Wait, you mean the front office made a good draft pick? He's not a high priced free agent bust like Chris Cooley?

Posted by: Dolemite | September 14, 2008 5:16 PM+++

Cooley was drafted, not an FA. He is one of the few really good high round picks the Front office has made in ages.

I have frequently credited Cerrato for his late round selections, of which Blades (and Horton, and Golston and Monty, etc) are part of.

Posted by: Corkczar, Non-Crotchety Blog Peep | September 14, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Not sure if it's been said, but the play Campbell made on 2nd and 22 on the 5 yrd line to Cooley seemed to really turn the momentum. It looks like if the line can give Campbell time, he can be very effective.....GO SKINS!

Posted by: Lenniedr | September 14, 2008 5:23 PM

Great point. This was a HUGE play, and I was shocked that Zorn had the nerve to call a pass. I think the Saints were surprised, too. We ran on 2nd and long 7 of the first 9 times, I think. It was getting annoying.

Posted by: beat kal | September 14, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Anon,

I meant it as a criticism of Brooks' punting today, not Zorn's playcalling. I couldn't believe Zorn did it. I've been watching Gibbs way too long. I had thought the NFL required you to punt on fourth and two.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 14, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

even corky had to like that win

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

@ Corkczar:
You must not have had your sarcacism meter on when you read my comment about Cooley(3rd rnd pick, Gibbs made a move to get him). But I wonder why we get the late rounds so great but blow the early rounds. Go figure.

Posted by: Dolemite | September 14, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Talent, I swear you have a dual-personality.

Posted by: isnadd | September 14, 2008 5:22 PM

If you think he only has dual-personality, then you don't know TE.

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 14, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Throw all the offensive stats out the window. The key to this victory was Reed Doughty not being able to play. As I stated unequivocally last week, he's not a NFL starter quality player. Chris Horton came in and did what he was supposed to do. Score one for Vinny. This guy is a player. He flies around and always seems to be around the ball.
Another observation: Randle El should not be returning punts. He is not the same guy that e saw in Pittsburgh. I'd rather take my chances with Moss.
Finally, do you think Frost is loving this? Brooks muffed a hold and had several horrible punts. Frost is right in that he's better than Brooks right now. Hopefully, Durant will get it together and work out. Otherwise, we're gonna be fighting against bad field position all year.

Posted by: mark | September 14, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

But I wonder why we get the late rounds so great but blow the early rounds. Go figure.

Posted by: Dolemite | September 14, 2008 5:29 PM

I'm not buying it. Sean Taylor? Laron Landry? Carlos Rogers? Jason Campbell? I think they were all pretty solid first round picks.

Where we blow is trading picks for trash, and even there, they haven't all been trash.

Chris Cooley was a third round pick and we traded two thirds to move up and grab him.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 14, 2008 5:32 PM | Report abuse

I have frequently credited Cerrato for his late round selections, of which Blades (and Horton, and Golston and Monty, etc) are part of.

Posted by: Corkczar, Non-Crotchety Blog Peep | September 14, 2008 5:26 PM

I wouldn't go overboard complimenting the Vinny for drafting a backup LB (Blades) and couple of mediocre DTs (Goldston/Monty) out of the dozens of picks he's fired off. It's not like he's pulling pro-bowlers out of the 2nd day of the draft. Somebody has to play DT.

That said, I'm excited about Horton... maybe he'll be the first one to do it.

Posted by: viognier | September 14, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Talent, I swear you have a dual-personality.

Posted by: isnadd | September 14, 2008 5:22 PM

Hey, I didn't realize my wife was over there with you. If you're the guy she's been with, then you're alright in my books.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 14, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Anon,

I meant it as a criticism of Brooks' punting today, not Zorn's playcalling. I couldn't believe Zorn did it. I've been watching Gibbs way too long. I had thought the NFL required you to punt on fourth and two.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 14, 2008 5:28 PM


Ah, gotcha. Agreed.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

HA! Champ Bailey just got BURNED on a 48 yd TD. Actually the coverage was pretty decent, but he GOT BEAT! CP 2 TD's today. Yeeaaahhhhhh.

Posted by: dlhaze | September 14, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

I am a big fan, but Brooks was a major liability today. And ARE really put us in a hole on that fumble. I don't understand why we can't find a better punt returner than ARE.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 14, 2008 5:10 PM

I didn't see the game, but the announcers said a defender put a helmet right on the ball.

I think ARE is our returner because he has great hands. I agree he hasn't done much back there, but he is pretty dependable at catching it. Every once in a while everyone will fumble. The key is that it doesn't happen too often.

Posted by: frediefritz | September 14, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

All I can say is I'm here for my beatdown. I didn't think in my wildest dreams I'd live to see 29 points, 300+ yards passing, and 100+ yards rushing and a dominating defensive performance from a Redskins team! Obviously my head was squarely between my cheeks. All hail the Redskins and I'll not doubt the team again this half of the season (can't make promises about the 2nd half yet) ;)

Posted by: 4th in the East | September 14, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

HA! Champ Bailey just got BURNED on a 48 yd TD. Actually the coverage was pretty decent, but he GOT BEAT! CP 2 TD's today. Yeeaaahhhhhh.

Posted by: dlhaze | September 14, 2008 5:39 PM

And what about the second round pick we threw in to seal the deal? I hope he's out of the league.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 14, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Love it.

Love it, love it, love it.

HAIL TO 'EM!

Posted by: Nate in the PDX | September 14, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

I didn't see the game, but the announcers said a defender put a helmet right on the ball.

I think ARE is our returner because he has great hands. I agree he hasn't done much back there, but he is pretty dependable at catching it. Every once in a while everyone will fumble. The key is that it doesn't happen too often.

Posted by: frediefritz | September 14, 2008 5:40 PM

That's what happened. But ARE only had one hand on the ball. My problem with him is that he runs East to West, not North to South. He's waiting for all the defenders to run past him and they just aren't that stupid.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 14, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

only have one thing to add to the fray...

F the skeptics (with apologies to CL)

Posted by: CBT | September 14, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Give thanks for the win indeed! Unfortunately, Campbell still stared down Moss @ the end. #17's #'s:

104.1 rating today; but 3-11 on 3rd down; keep improving! God Bless DC.

Posted by: Realness | September 14, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

OK, JC haters and Zorn haters!--how's that wet sock taste stuffed in your mouth? Still think JC can't play in the NFL?? I guess Drew Freaking Brees can't play in the NFL then either! GO SKINS!! HTTR!!!!

Posted by: We Won! | September 14, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Awesome. Sell high, 'Skins fans. These days will be few and far between.

Posted by: Tony Romo | September 14, 2008 4:21 PM

Thanks for the advice Tony, now if you guys could just win a playoff game this century.

Atleast they are in the playoffs !
smooches

Posted by: skinsfaninsanfran | September 14, 2008 4:24 PM

Posted by: slapshot46 | September 14, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Was not watching the game, but was going for it on 4th and 2 a smart play...in particular running a pass play?

At least a run play would have kept the clock running or used a timeout.

Not hatin' on the Skins, just concerned our inexperienced coaching staff doesn't understand Xs and Os.

Great win today.
Posted by: isnadd | September 14, 2008 4:20 PM
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Actually, a run play wouldnt run out the clock on 4th down because time stops for change of possession

Posted by: D | September 14, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

"Trying to recall if JC ever made any big plays in crunch time to win games last year?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 14, 2008 5:05 PM"

Depends on what you mean with your first question. Did Campbell have any comebacks of this nature last season? No.

But he did put this team in position a couple of times to make plays last year. In particular, vs. Giants and @ Cowboys. If Betts were to score vs. the Giants (week 2) last season (like Portis did today), that would have been comeback #1. And Campbell carried the team @Dallas last season, only to come up just short by throwing a costly INT. Last year, he showed he had the ability to do it, he just couldn't seal the deal.

Today was Campbell taking the next step. He has all the ability to be an elite QB in this league, and he showed it today by coming through in the clutch. And the scary thing is that I think he actually could have been better today. Simply put, Campbell is legit.

Posted by: psps23 | September 14, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

I think ARE is our returner because he has great hands. I agree he hasn't done much back there, but he is pretty dependable at catching it. Every once in a while everyone will fumble. The key is that it doesn't happen too often.

Posted by: frediefritz | September 14, 2008 5:40 PM

That's what happened. But ARE only had one hand on the ball. My problem with him is that he runs East to West, not North to South. He's waiting for all the defenders to run past him and they just aren't that stupid.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 14, 2008 5:45 PM

Yeah, he was holding the ball way out from his body and it wasn't a big hit that jarred the ball loose. More importantly, when he's not fumbling he's not really doing anything good either, and as is painfully obvious, he dances and doesn't get the easy yards by trying (unsuccessfully) to hit the home run each time.

Posted by: beat kal | September 14, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

104.1 rating today; but 3-11 on 3rd down;

Posted by: Realness | September 14, 2008 5:50 PM

Every silver lining has a cloud!

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 14, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

They have had a loss, they've had a victory.

They'll come out swingin' next week.

Posted by: stumped | September 14, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Hello psps23,

And it was two INT in the red zone against Tampa and then another late @ Cowboys.

But for today, I give him props, no problem with that long drive!
Did I get on JC last year?
Most certainly did, and I thought he was a big choker and stated so.

TC clearly got the team's offense moving where JC just couldn't get it done.

Certainly hoping of the two games this year, today's fourth quarter will be more of what we see.

I am not a JC hater.
Just know what we all saw last year and that TC was the better QB.

HTTR!

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 14, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

104.1 rating today; but 3-11 on 3rd down;

Posted by: Realness | September 14, 2008 5:50 PM

Every silver lining has a cloud!

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 14, 2008 5:57 PM

If he improves each game we will all celebrate!

Posted by: Realness | September 14, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Defense = A

good job Skins!

Posted by: Gus | September 14, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Hail to the Skins !! Now lets go burn some purple herb for the Burgundy & Gold. This is the life !!

Posted by: Slippery Richard | September 14, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

"I'm not buying it. Sean Taylor? Laron Landry? Carlos Rogers? Jason Campbell? I think they were all pretty solid first round picks.
Where we blow is trading picks for trash, and even there, they haven't all been trash."
You got me there. Our 1st rounders have been good. Good team build thru the draft, maybe the FO has finally figured that out. Let us pray.

"I wouldn't go overboard complimenting the Vinny for drafting a backup LB (Blades) and couple of mediocre DTs (Goldston/Monty) out of the dozens of picks he's fired off. It's not like he's pulling pro-bowlers out of the 2nd day of the draft. Somebody has to play DT. That said, I'm excited about Horton... maybe he'll be the first one to do it.- viognier

One measure of how good a draft pick was/is is whether or not the player is still on the team, and does he have any starts. Golston and Mont have done a decent job, and Heyer is a starting rt tackle. He needs to get his run blocking up, but he can pass block well.

Posted by: Dolemite | September 14, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Great win.

Chris Horton deserves some TCCLs for his performance today. Great job by JC under pressure on the winning throw.

But the failure to score TDs from inside the red zone will kill us if we don't fix it and fast. If I counted correctly, we had four trips inside the 20 during the first half, netting only 9 points. If we score TDs on even three of those trips, FG on one, we're rolling at halftime.

Frustrating.


Also, I love ARE as a receiver, but he drives me up the wall returning punts, because he won't just make a move and then run. NO's first TD is squarely on him.

How much do you think Frostie will laugh at this game if he watches it later? Brooks definitely looked like a rookie today.

As for Suisham, I followed the game today through an amalgam of NFL game tracker, Redskins Radio online, and a temperamental video stream, so I didn't get to see the first miss or the botched snap on the second miss, but it sounded like the second miss wasn't really his fault.

Tons of room for improvement, but still, way to hang in this one and keep gutting it out.


Hail, Skins!

Posted by: freakzilla | September 14, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

They have had a loss, they've had a victory.

They'll come out swingin' next week.

Posted by: stumped | September 14, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Overall, I'd give them a B+.

Posted by: Cindy | September 14, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

I'll bring the Zig Zag's !!

Posted by: Earl Sugarloaf III | September 14, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

For all those who weren't able to watch the game, the scoreline doesn't reflect how dominant the skins were on offense and defense. The skins were moving up and down the field at ease, while the Saints couldn't get anything done offensively. We could have been better in the red zone, especially in the first half, but still an excellent game on both sides of the ball.

Unfortunately for the skins, we forgot that special teams are 1/3 of the game. Randle El's punt return fumble led to the Saints 1st TD, Reggie Bush's punt return gave the Saints another TD, and a botched hold and 2 missed FGs left points off the board for the Redskins. The skins need to shore up those special teams. If they do, the rest of the NFC East needs to watch out. Everybody is counting out the skins, but today we showed it's very unwise to do so.

Posted by: psps23 | September 14, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Horton will start... Just not this year or maybe later in the season. I can't just send Reed packing. He's been there and did some things for the team. But Horton made a heck of a case for starting minutes.

JC looked good and the offense stopped being offensive. 300+ yrds? Not a bad outing from a guy many fly-by-nighters where calling out and screaming for his head. Give JC time to adjust, jeez remember this guy has had changed more than any QB in the league. Not to mention coming out of college.

Good win 'Skins

Posted by: Capone1911 | September 14, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Right on, Zilla.

The stats indicate a much larger margin of victory was possible.

I'd have Devin pulling in the punts.

Posted by: stumped | September 14, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Turnovers 3:1

That never hurts. It'll pad those stats, too.

Posted by: stumped | September 14, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

horton is starter from here on out, has to be...

ARE needs to be benched on punts, we kept Tyron...get him in there...

great great win...if your hatin today i dont understand why your a fan...

Posted by: chrIS lArry | September 14, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Well will ya lookie there, danged if Wershington didn't go and get themselves a win. Liv er up boys cause you gonna need a whole lot bigger horse when you head south to Texas. Y'all know what I mean. Merica's team is just a chompin at the bit to see the whites of yer eyes. A he he he he, oh yeah we'll cook a lidle somechin up for ya. HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa Hawwwwwww Shizaaam

Posted by: Slim Pickins | September 14, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Nice to see the return of the quick-screen to Moss. By hitting the deep ball a few times, that play will be more and more open.

Posted by: beat kal | September 14, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Awesome. Sell high, 'Skins fans. These days will be few and far between.

Posted by: Tony Romo | September 14, 2008 4:21 PM

Thanks for the advice Tony, now if you guys could just win a playoff game this century.

Atleast they are in the playoffs !
smooches

Posted by: skinsfaninsanfran | September 14, 2008 4:24 PM


Posted by: slapshot46 | September 14, 2008 5:53 PM

Thats funny because if I recall correctly,you played the same amount of play-off games that we did last year,did you not?

Posted by: dawglbs | September 14, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

I put on the halftime show for the Jets and NE and heard we came back in the fourth quarter. I was amazed, and extremely happy. Not to mention the 29 points. Super nice. I couldn't watch it because it wasn't on TV here and I didn't have time to get to my computer to see it until it was over (church, seeing a friend who has no unsecured wireless networks in his place, my AS support group meeting, etc.). It sounds like Doughty and Horton should share time at SS. YIPEEEEEEEEE, JC won us a game. The JC to SM pass was gorgeous (the one highlight they showed). ARE should be packing his bags if either of our two WR rookies work out. He's horrific at returning anything. Suisham is a Sissy, pathetic. So happy to hear of Zorn's improved play calling including the 4th and 2. Our offense is starting to click, and we can pray that it will continue into the NFC East matchups. Good stuff; I can wear my 'skins shirt with pride.

Posted by: Karen | September 14, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

First of all, HTTR!!!!

I was only able to see the first half, went to the beach for the second half with my sons. The settling for FG attempts, two missed, are frustrating. Still, good to see a victory. I include this piece of an article, only to keep all fans a bit grounded. Feels so good to win!!

The Saints were short-handed defensively, playing without three injured starters. Strong safety Roman Harper and cornerback Randall Gay were sidelined because of hamstring injuries. Linebacker Scott Fujita was out after bruising his right knee in last week's victory over Tampa Bay, and reserve linebacker Mark Simoneau, who missed the season opener because of a lingering back injury, recently was placed on the season-ending injured reserve list.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | September 14, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Awesome. Sell high, 'Skins fans. These days will be few and far between.

Posted by: Tony Romo | September 14, 2008 4:21 PM

Thanks for the advice Tony, now if you guys could just win a playoff game this century.

Atleast they are in the playoffs !
smooches

Posted by: skinsfaninsanfran | September 14, 2008 4:24 PM


Posted by: slapshot46 | September 14, 2008 5:53 PM

Thats funny,because if I recall correctly,they played the same amount of play-off games that we did last year,did they not?

Posted by: dawglbs | September 14, 2008 6:33 PM | Report abuse

Hey Everybody, I listened to the entire game on the radio.

Was there an injury of is HB Blades simply earning more playing time?
He had 4 tackles and 2 assists as well.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 14, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Am I the only one that witnessed the blatant block in the back on Bush's kick return? It's also time for Randle-El to give up on punt returns. Use the rookies for returns or Rock needs to learn the punt return game.

Posted by: steely185 | September 14, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Sorry for the dp

Posted by: dawglbs | September 14, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Hey Everybody, I listened to the entire game on the radio.

Was there an injury of is HB Blades simply earning more playing time?
He had 4 tackles and 2 assists as well.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 14, 2008 6:34 PM

Washington out. See earlier blog update...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

But I wonder why we get the late rounds so great but blow the early rounds. Go figure.

Posted by: Dolemite | September 14, 2008 5:29 PM

Maybe that's we always insisted on unburdening ourselves of them.

Great win today.

HAIL

Posted by: RMilot | September 14, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

who are these fans who dont watch the game??????????

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

who are these fans who dont watch the game??????????

Posted by: Anonymous

fans who live near a beach and have kids, and realize you need to be peaking at the end of the season, not now.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | September 14, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

And what about the second round pick we threw in to seal the deal? I hope he's out of the league.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 14, 2008 5:42 PM


I think it was Tatum Bell wasn't it?

Posted by: kost52 | September 14, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Hey Everybody, I listened to the entire game on the radio.

Was there an injury of is HB Blades simply earning more playing time?
He had 4 tackles and 2 assists as well.

Posted by: RedskinRay1

washington was out I think, not sure who else besides Doughty at safety

Posted by: lsskinsfan | September 14, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

wow clueless fans....

doughty had stomach flu, Washington out with the bad hip.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

who are these fans who dont watch the game??????????

Posted by: Anonymous

fans who live near a beach and have kids, and realize you need to be peaking at the end of the season, not now.


Posted by: lsskinsfan | September 14, 2008 6:40 PM

Guess you heard that,huh Anon?

Posted by: dawglbs | September 14, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

wow clueless fans....

doughty had stomach flu, Washington out with the bad hip.

Posted by: Anonymous

f u buddy, i got the two right. get out and get some fresh air for the first time this year. some of us love the skins, but have many other things going on too, perhaps unlike u.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | September 14, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

fans who don't watch the game? you ask?

Some are not as die hard fans who after the fiasco vs. the Giants didn't want to watch so they did other things.

Then there are some of us who grew up watching Skins from DC stations while listening on the Radio to Skins broadcasts.

Our careers have meant we had to move elsewhere. We don't have each game broadcast on TV in our areas.
So, I listen to Sonny, Sam and Larry each game, and follow each play on NFL.com when the games are not broadcast in my area.

I read the Post each day, and check Redskins.com as well?

Who are these fans?
True, diehard; Skins fans until we DIE!
That's who we are!!

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 14, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

I will say that last week, I was one of the Zorn haters. The turnaround was great, but we need to show improvment next week too. I'm relieved and satisfied we're not 0-2. AZ looks real strong, but they're also playing the Fins...

GO SKINS!!!

Posted by: rich20ssu | September 14, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Who are these fans?


My daughter will only be 3 years old once...as a guy who works 60 hours a week, was traveling half of last week, and still have to find time to entertain Talent Evaluators wife....I decided not to get NFL ticket this season.

I guarantee you I had a better time at Chuck E. Cheese with my little girl today than you did watching the Skins game.

Posted by: isnadd | September 14, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Who are these fans?


My daughter will only be 3 years old once...as a guy who works 60 hours a week, was traveling half of last week, and still have to find time to entertain Talent Evaluators wife....I decided not to get NFL ticket this season.

I guarantee you I had a better time at Chuck E. Cheese with my little girl today than you did watching the Skins game.

Posted by: isnadd

My sons are 7 and 5, daughter is 2, but she stayed home, You can't make time stand still and since it was beautiful here,(myrtle beach) we enjoyed it together.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | September 14, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

i am sure your kids wished you had watched the game...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

and still have to find time to entertain Talent Evaluators wife....

Posted by: isnadd | September 14, 2008 6:52 PM

It takes almost forever, doesn't it?

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 14, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Hey Isnadd,
You took your 3 year old daughter to Chuck E Cheese today even when the Skins were broadcast in your area?

Wow!
You are a better dad than the rest of us.
Hats off to you, Isnadd.

Perhaps you should be called IsDadd.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 14, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Those of you with a life do not need to explain yourselves to idiots. And since I live in Charlotte, NC, if Sunday ticket goes up again next year then I won't be able to watch my Skins either.

Posted by: Dolemite | September 14, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

I took my 6 year old to his first bike race.

(now i'm checkin out the highlights on the net.)

I'd pay to watch the stream tonight. Anybody know if that's possible?

Posted by: stumped | September 14, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

anon,

I'm sure late at night, a thousand separate times, your mother laid there, awake, wishing she had made a different choice..............
I think how lucky we all are to have you here with us. Thank you Anon's mom!

Posted by: lsskinsfan | September 14, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

"You took your 3 year old daughter to Chuck E Cheese today even when the Skins were broadcast in your area?"


Skins were not on TV in my area, I live in Atlanta. Now I'm not saying I didn't check my Blackberry ocassionaly for a score....

Posted by: isnadd | September 14, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

isnadd = 0
T E =1

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Billy McMullen has 3 catches for 50 yards for the Seahawks....but, also a fumble.


I thought Devin Thomas was a bad pick, the guy had one decent season in college. But if Malcom Kelly can play ball at this level what a difference it will make for our deep game (opening up Moss).

Posted by: isnadd | September 14, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

wow, that guy Sproles on San Diego is fast.

Posted by: isnadd | September 14, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

On offense it was like night & day between last week & this week. If you put the 2nd half of last weeks defensive performance with this weeks game, they have done well. We may have the makings of something good on defense.

Unlike with GG, there's no smoke & mirrors. Just line up, man up & kick azz!

Posted by: will_ga | September 14, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Got home today went to Skins radio broadcast about 3 minutes before Kickoff.

So noticed HB Blades was playing
And after awhile realized I was not hearing Marcus Washington's name....

So moments ago I noticed Marcus was inactive today. Ok,he's got years of wear and tear on that hip...
Is this guy nearing the end or something?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 14, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

I have liked Chris Horton from day one. Think he should start over Doughty....good thing he got that stomach bug!

Posted by: candy | September 14, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Plenty to like from today's game. Even when we were down 9 in the 4th, I thought this team played hard, which was a change from week 1. The offense was good, also a change from week 1 (less of a WCO look... fwiw). I noted we had problems in the red zone on both sides of the ball. And Durant Brooks had hurt us a lot. But it wasn't ugly like week 1. It was competitive.

And then came the comeback. A terrific drive that Campbell led, followed by the bif play pass to Moss inside 4 minutes (remind anyone of Moss's big plays in the 4Q vs Dallas a few years back ...?)

All the Campbell haters will find little rocks to crawl under.

Major kudos to Zorn for seeing what works with his guys

Posted by: AL Zeke etc | September 14, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Am I the only one that witnessed the blatant block in the back on Bush's kick return? Posted by: steely185 | September 14, 2008 6:34 PM

Yer not the only one, steely. but no matter how loud i hollered and cussed and damn near spilled my beer, i couldn't get the zebras to call it.

that play sure looked like the difference maker for a while din't it? whoever said special teams need more attention is absolutely right.

me? i'd have brooks practicing catching the the snap and getting the ball down about an hour a day between now and then.

this one felt crummy until late. but it sure feels good now.

HTTR!!!

Posted by: Redskin Willie | September 14, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

You know it wasn't just JLC that's been riding the team. That Fox broadcast today was vile. Brian Billick practically came out and said Zorn was not qualified for the job (remember his friend Fassell lost out to Zorn). And Jimmy Johnson actually did, on the pregame show, wizz all over Snyder, Cerrato, Zorn, and Campbell.

Lot of love up there for Sean Payton, none for Zorn and the 'Skins. Screw Fox. I'm voting Democrat.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 14, 2008 4:40 PM


Amen to that, if I had to listen that fat idot baldinger and that loud mouth ego maniacal billick blather on about how inept Zorn was for any longer I was going to drive up to Fedex and shove my rice krispy treat statue of Don Breaux up each of their arses, Billick First.

Posted by: buke | September 14, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Yay! We Dont Suck!

Needed this win, hopefully it'll be a nice confidence boost for Campbell and the boys.

Positives: D and O looked solid, Campbell was more assertive, Springs came back, got a bit of a pass rush.

Negatives: Special teams. Punter was Sarah Palin bad. ARE terrible on returns. Suisham missed two FGs. Lots of our fellow fans seem to be dbags (go listen to larry michael if cant handle criticism).

Posted by: pindar | September 14, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Billick is hoping that if he is smug enough & he slams zorn enough then maybe his fantasies will come true and Snyder will hire him next year!

Posted by: will_ga | September 14, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Great win. Now I can call Papa John and order a real pizza!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Billick is hoping that if he is smug enough & he slams zorn enough then maybe his fantasies will come true and Snyder will hire him next year!

Posted by: will_ga | September 14, 2008 8:12 PM

I don't think it was that. I think that Billick is pumping Fassell's case to be head coach. They didn't even talk to Billick, but Fassell came close and those two go way back.

Whatever, I don't think much of Billick as a person or as a commentator after today. I hope we don't see him again, but until we've got a good record, this is the type of jerks we'll have to listen to.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 14, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Billick is hoping that if he is smug enough & he slams zorn enough then maybe his fantasies will come true and Snyder will hire him next year!

Posted by: will_ga | September 14, 2008 8:12 PM


I don't think I could stomach that. That's the day I stop following the NFL and focus all of my free time Sculpting rice krispy treats. For those of you that are interested the next one is of Bill Musgrave.

Posted by: buke | September 14, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

this was a GREAT win!!! 9 points down in the 4th quarter. awesome! let's hope the QB and the coach can learn from this and build their relationship. btw...i didn't see much west coast offense today. more like last year.

and they got arizona. no need to get "league sources" jasno. kurt warner will be mince meat with this D.

Posted by: dealer | September 14, 2008 8:27 PM | Report abuse

man i am still basking in the glow of that game!

Posted by: chrIS lArry | September 14, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

yeah...i didn't understand the zorn bashing during the game. i thought he called the perfect game. even with the 2 point conversion.

Posted by: dealer | September 14, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

cL, it's been a long long time man!

Posted by: dealer | September 14, 2008 8:30 PM | Report abuse

If you're Zorn and Danny Smith, how do you deal with Brooks? He's a rookie, and he really came up small today and weak last week, so how many chances do you give him? He really cost the 'Skins.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 14, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

As bad as Billick is, Baldinger is worse. I just kept waiting for him to say to Billick "You know coach, I just think you are such a pretty man."

Posted by: will_ga | September 14, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

God, it is just so good to have football again. And, a 'Skins win makes it so much sweeter.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 14, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

isnadd = myrtlebeachmike

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse

"yeah...i didn't understand the zorn bashing during the game. i thought he called the perfect game. even with the 2 point conversion."

Posted by: dealer | September 14, 2008 8:29 PM

I know if Zorn had kicked the extra point they would have slammed him for not going for two.

Posted by: will_ga | September 14, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

"We don't have a general manager; everything goes through the owner. That sets up a difficult situation at times. Knowing who the owner is, you know from Day 1 there's no job security."

Who said it? About whom?

Posted by: Redskin Willie | September 14, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Someone posted with our D, AZ will be mince meat next week.

How quickly we forget, Skins fans.
Last year we played AZ @ home in DC and should have lost, being at their mercy but they missed a very makable FG.

Warner knows how to drop back, get rid of the ball, and his quick decisions could spell trouble for us, as they are talented on offense.

D must be ready, Sunday.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 14, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

man i am still basking in the glow of that game!
Posted by: chrIS lArry

yer a f'in' poet, cL. pplus i couldn't agree more.

hail to 'em. they showed me something today. hope and pray it carries over. confidence can, but it doesn't always. wherever he is, i know joe is proud today.

Posted by: Redskin Willie | September 14, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

thanks again Anons' mom. So glad you chose life with this one.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | September 14, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Where is that ultimate tool who calls himself "SportsGuru" in here? You gonna come out and show your face you idiot? yes, I called you an idiot, self professed guru.
What was that you told us about Jason Campbell? Friggin moron. Have the guts to come here now idiot tool loser d'bag know-nothing.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Not 'skins related, but it was good to see Issac Bruce have such a huge day with 150+ yards. I would have never thought Seattle would be two games behind arizona after 2 weeks.

WTF was with the Cutler fumble being blown dead??? San Diego was robbed.

Posted by: will_ga | September 14, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

will_ga, that's a norv turner team for you. they will find a way to lose.

Posted by: dealer | September 14, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

There is a strange irony in a guy who posts as "anonymous" calling some other a guy a "friggin moron" and telling him to "have the guts..."

ironic you know?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 14, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

I think Tim Donaghy was refereeing the SD/Den game. Clear fumble.

We gotta beat AZ to get to 2-1 next week. Road games against Cowsh*ts and Iggles to follow.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

who isnt anonymous on here. and if you get offended you got no self esteem. people hide behind a message board and that is their tyler durden side.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

WTF was with the Cutler fumble being blown dead??? San Diego was robbed.

Posted by: will_ga

i thought the 15 yard unsportsman-like penalty early against the Skins was bogus too, it happened right at the sideline. there is absolutely no home-cooking at FedEx.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | September 14, 2008 8:58 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand the critism of Suishan. The muffed hold basically gave him no chance on that FG so he was therefore 3 for 4 and the miss was from 49 yards. That is a makeable field goal but not a high percentage kick. It was also his first attempt of the year. I also have been impressed with the length of his kickoffs. It is nice to finally see touchbacks or returns from the goal line instead of the 10.

Posted by: Lifelong Fan | September 14, 2008 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Dog Dials 911 When Owner Has Seizure
Sunday, September 14, 2008
Associated Press

Wow, now that's a good dog.

Posted by: will_ga | September 14, 2008 8:58 PM | Report abuse

From Jason La Canfora:

Wow. Huge comeback. Two late TDs to pull out the win. Tremendous defnesive stand with rookie 7th round pick Chris Horton grabbing his second INT, to go with a fumble recovery (can't recall a Skins having three turnovers like that in a game for a long time).

Jason Campbell changed his protection and moved Betts to pick up a blitz on the bomb. They were in the I formation and he moved Betts to his right. Then threw the heck out of the ball.

The Skins beat up this team and got the W to go with it in wild fashion. What a game. Moss finishes 7 for 164 with a TD.

Okay, gotta get running to the locker room.

Cheers.

-------------

Did Jasno get stuck in the locker room? Did they even let him in? Some news on the Skins emotions/thoughts after the game would be nice.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

lifelong,

i agree, seeing those touchbacks was cool, finally!

Posted by: lsskinsfan | September 14, 2008 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Some bully probably stole jason la hacks credentials and he was thrown out of fed ex

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

no self esteem, tyler durden, bully, feeling little again Anon?
continue to stuff your face with that pizza and go away!

Posted by: thewayiseeit | September 14, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

You guys are right, it was good to see us have some touchbacks today for kickoffs.
Eliminates hitting, eliminates any possibilities of a good / long return.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 14, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Anyone watch the comcast post game show? It was nice to get to watch the hotness that is Kelli Johnson but man, the post game interviewing needs some work just to get up to lame much less interesting!

Posted by: will_ga | September 14, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

INJURIES DRAG DOWN SAINTS
Posted by Mike Florio on September 14, 2008, 4:59 p.m. EDT
Though the New Orleans Saints continue to be a trendy pick to make it to Super Bowl XLIII, they played on Sunday like a team that will only get there by purchasing a block of 53 tickets.

But while injuries never are an excuse, it was obvious that Sunday’s struggles related to the absence of receiver Marques Colston and of several defensive starters.

The Saints gained only 250 yards against the Redskins. In contrast, they gave up 455.

It’s amazing that New Orleans lost by only five points.

On offense, Reggie Bush continues to be, well, Reggie Bush. His contributions primarily came in the passing game (seven catches for 63 yards). As a rusher, he struggled once again, gaining only 28 yards on ten carries.

But at least the Saints have finally gotten a return on their first-round pick from 2007. Receiver Robert Meachem had been inactive for the first 17 regular-season games of his career. On Sunday, he played for the first time, catching one pass for 19 yards and a touchdown.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Am I wrong or were we down two starters on D and starting a 7th rd rookie in place of one? And by all accounts, we were the weaker team coming into the game.

No love for the skins.

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 14, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

will_ga, that is always the case. if the skins win, the interviews aren't that good and neither are the ratings but if they lose that is great for ratings and material.

btw...you guys know that lane kiffin is about to get fired? according to espn...

Posted by: dealer | September 14, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

btw...you guys know that lane kiffin is about to get fired? according to espn...

Posted by: dealer | September 14, 2008 9:08 PM

Heard that on NFLN too

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 14, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

I will start this comment by saying that I was and still am a big Gibbs and Williams fan. However, I was shocked and quite pleased that Zorn played to win instead of not to lose by going for it on 4th and 2 and passing the ball. Also, after the Redskins took the lead late in the game it was great to see the defense not only stop NO but get the turnover. I have been so disappointed the last 4 years seeing the team take a lead only to watch the other team march down the field and score.

However, just as I did not get overly down when they lost to the Giants I don't plan to get overly excited about the win. It is still a long season but it was great to see improvement, I hope that continues.

Posted by: Lifelong Fan | September 14, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

F Mike Florio

Posted by: chrIS lArry | September 14, 2008 9:11 PM | Report abuse

I have been so disappointed the last 4 years seeing the team take a lead only to watch the other team march down the field and score.

like the Aints did today just before halftime? yeah, i hate the prevent D, the patriots went after farve when they had the lead late, no prevent there.

Posted by: lsskinsfan | September 14, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Why ar all these people posting on here that didn't even have time to watch the game? How many posts are starting " I didnt see the game". I saw the game and though I am generally happy with the improvement from last week, and extatic about the win, I also have these observations.
1. Get off the Horton pipe. Two balls were batted into the air, and because he was around nobody in coverage he was open to go for the ball. Damn glad he did, but give the INT to the lineman batting it around. And the fumble laid on the ground for like 5 minutes before anyone got to it. It almost stopped rolling.

2. The offensive line absolutely did not look good run blocking. Portis had to run though his offenseive line before even getting to the defense except on about 4 carries. Portis is a great back and the best pass blocker on the team, but even he cant run throug 12 guys too often.

3. Special teams were horrible except The Rock who was his normal great self. I don't blame Suisham too much. He missed a longish kick and Brooks screwed the other miss and his KO were very nice. We need to let thr Tryon kid earn his keep returning punts since he cant cover me, and ARE thinks he is Deion Sanders who was the only PR I have ever seen to consistantly run East West and escape to big returns.

On the positive side, we ran past the first down marker before breaking off the routes this week, and JC seemed to start to be able to help himself by stepping around the rush on two big plays. We saw flashes of what Jason Taylor might do if healthy, and also watched him go in for "treatment".

The biggest difference between this week and last week Springs. he lets the reast of the defense do their thing. Without him we can't rush the extra guy. With him he is 1-1 with the top receiver and we can afforsd to put pressure on. It helps not playing Plaxico Burress too. The guy is great. Did you see him torch StL today?

Posted by: Realfan | September 14, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

As much as people love bashing Snyder, he's still nothing like Al Davis. I would hate to be a Raider's fan these days!

Posted by: will_ga | September 14, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Anyone catch the SD-Denver game; man Norv Turner must have killed puppies in a a former life....have never seen a coach so snake bit by questionable refs and bad luck.

Oh yeah, sorry, we lived it for several years....

Posted by: P-Rock | September 14, 2008 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Kiffin?
They dominated KC in KC today and Al Davis already wants to get rid of Kiffin?

Davis is hiws own worst enemy, isn't he?
He is old and has lost it.
Years ago he needed someone younger at his side, but Davis is so insecure he can't handle anyone around him that will interact w/ him regarding his decisions.

Davis equals out of control tyrant.

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 14, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

LOL! anyone see hines ward celebaration after td? LMAO!

Posted by: dealer | September 14, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Realfan,
Comments on your observations:
1. Agree the Horton plays were more being in the right position then making a great player. However, that is part of the game. I guess his true play will be seen when the coaches review the tape.
2. Need to disagree, I though the Oline did well. In the first half NO was stacking the box and the Oline was still able to make some room for Portis. When JC began connecting the holes got bigger. I could have scored on the draw play running with a walker.
3. Agree ST need work and the PR needs to be someone else. However, not sure Tyron is answer. He is the 5th CB and is probably not going to be active too much. Better solution would either be Rock, Thrash (at least he runs N-S) or one of the new WRs.

Posted by: Lifelong Fan | September 14, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

And what about the second round pick we threw in to seal the deal? I hope he's out of the league.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 14, 2008 5:42 PM

He was last seen robbing Rudi Johnson's bags on the way out of Detroit. Now unemployed.

Posted by: Gfunk | September 14, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand the critism of Suishan. The muffed hold basically gave him no chance on that FG so he was therefore 3 for 4 and the miss was from 49 yards. That is a makeable field goal but not a high percentage kick. It was also his first attempt of the year. I also have been impressed with the length of his kickoffs. It is nice to finally see touchbacks or returns from the goal line instead of the 10.

Posted by: Lifelong Fan | September 14, 2008 8:58 PM

Your point about the hold is valid, but I think giving him credit for making it is not... I'd say 2/3 is more accurate.

But yes, our boy hitting some deep kickoffs is a major improvement over last year...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Kurt Warner today:
19/24 361 yards 3 TD O Int.

Wow; the guy can still get it done...
Very effective game; what was his rating?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 14, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

He was last seen robbing Rudi Johnson's bags on the way out of Detroit. Now unemployed.

Posted by: Gfunk | September 14, 2008 9:36 PM

Wow, Gfunk! We gave up Champ and Tatum Bell for Clinton. I feel a lot better about that trade when I realize it was Tatum Bell that they picked in the second round -- #41 overall.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 14, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse

My son and i now jokingly call the man wno jukes himself out and falls before contact . . . Antwan Randall FELL. For years I've been reminding myself how I held my breath everytime we actually risked punting to him when he was a Steeler. He was scary. What happened?

Posted by: Cookie | September 14, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Your point about the hold is valid, but I think giving him credit for making it is not... I'd say 2/3 is more accurate.

I didn't give him credit for making it. Statiscally he was 3 for 5. What I was saying is the one miss on the hold problem is not on Suisham. Therefore 3/4 is more accurate of his performance.

Posted by: Lifelong Fan | September 14, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Suisham seems to be kicking a lot more deep balls on kickoffs and making them unreterurnable. He seems to be developing greater range but losing accuracy. I agree that he can't be accountable for a poor hold. He has been shaky this entire season stretching back to preseason with some easy misses that had us all a bit worried.

Posted by: Cookie | September 14, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

What happened to ARE?

He used to risk, run hard, because returns was his main way to make a big impact.

Came here, got a starting job, huge salary
and ARE feels he has no need to risk, to run hard. He has no intention of laying it on the line as a returner.

When is coaching staff going to realize this?
Put Thrash, or Rock back there!

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 14, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

If any of you watched the Hurricanes back in late 90's he is the answer at PR. I think he is smart enough to fair catch so he doesn't get hurt. ARE is awful back there.

http://hurricanesports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/moss_santana00.html

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

No, no, no.
Not Santana Moss.
Folks you can't risk injury to him doing extra duty.

It has to be someone like
Leigh Torrence or Justin Tryon or James Thrash

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 14, 2008 10:01 PM | Report abuse

(can't recall a Skins having three turnovers like that in a game for a long time)

If memory serves, it was rookie CB Champ Bailey against AZ in 1999 with 3 ints.

Posted by: Rudes | September 14, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Was annoyed with the game till the 4th quarter, but it sure was nice to see it end like that.

Observations:
1) Love my man JC, but he has to stop staring down his WR's; my wife predicted his throws before he threw them.
2) Horton continues to impress.
3) Play calling was much improved and more suited to the personel.
4) I don't think getting Cooley more involved in the game could be overstated. That offense is night and day different with passes in his direction.
5) Special team was.... yeah..you know
6) Malcolm Kelly: thank you for demonstrating that some rookies are capable of running complete routes
7) And lastly, CP.... my favorite 'Skin had a beautiful day...

Posted by: AppleScience | September 14, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

And as many probably reaall, the late great Sean Taylor came pretty close to having 5 ints against Brett Favre and the Pack last year (he dropped 3).

Posted by: Rudes | September 14, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Why is everyone hating on Suisham? He only really missed 1 FG (Brooks botched the hold on the 2nd miss and Suisham did a great job just to get it close), and was ripping kickoffs for touchbacks which really helped the field position game.

Posted by: Shaun Suisham's Mom | September 14, 2008 10:22 PM | Report abuse

As I said earlier in the week, the Skins were going to beat the Saints!!!!!!!

HTTR!!!!

Posted by: JoeyV | September 14, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else notice that very few of the offensive lineman congratulated Portis after his two touchdown runs today?

I thought Clinton's comments during the week were uncharacteristic for a guy who has shown strong leadership for the Skins.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 10:44 PM | Report abuse

who are these fans who dont watch the game??????????

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 6:39 PM

fans who grew up being skins fans and then moved to the other side of the country for career purposes and who now don't have access to the southern sky...that's who

Posted by: skinsfaninsanfran | September 14, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Why ar all these people posting on here that didn't even have time to watch the game? How many posts are starting " I didnt see the game". I saw the game and though I am generally happy with the improvement from last week, and extatic about the win, I also have these observations.
1. Get off the Horton pipe. Two balls were batted into the air, and because he was around nobody in coverage he was open to go for the ball. Damn glad he did, but give the INT to the lineman batting it around. And the fumble laid on the ground for like 5 minutes before anyone got to it. It almost stopped rolling.

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Half the battle is being in the right place at the right time. The other half is being able to make the play. Say what you want, but very few NFL players have had that type of performance, EVER.


2. The offensive line absolutely did not look good run blocking. Portis had to run though his offenseive line before even getting to the defense except on about 4 carries. Portis is a great back and the best pass blocker on the team, but even he cant run throug 12 guys too often.

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The left side of the line looked all-pro to me in the second half especially. Did we watch the same game?

3. Special teams were horrible except The Rock who was his normal great self. I don't blame Suisham too much. He missed a longish kick and Brooks screwed the other miss and his KO were very nice. We need to let thr Tryon kid earn his keep returning punts since he cant cover me, and ARE thinks he is Deion Sanders who was the only PR I have ever seen to consistantly run East West and escape to big returns.

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Dude, You want Tryon returning punts!!?? Give me a break. Agree that ARE needs to be replaced, but I'll settle for a sure handed, north/south style runner who is not Santana Moss. Notice how many times R Bush was back returning punts? Very dangerous spot for a guy you need big things from. Remember how many times D Green was back for us? Situational only. I remember a back breaking return vs Chicago in in the playoffs by Green.

On the positive side, we ran past the first down marker before breaking off the routes this week, and JC seemed to start to be able to help himself by stepping around the rush on two big plays. We saw flashes of what Jason Taylor might do if healthy, and also watched him go in for "treatment".

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IMHO, JC needs lots of work, and may not have what it takes to be a top notch QB in this league( he just doesn't seem to see the field very well and his instincts seem average at best. He misses little things like feeling pressure and stepping up, or moving to the left or right to give himself that extra split second to get the ball off(like how he avoided the sack on td pass to Moss). I'm hoping that with time and more reps he'll reach the next level, but my gut says he doesn't have it. Hope I'm wrong.

The biggest difference between this week and last week Springs. he lets the reast of the defense do their thing. Without him we can't rush the extra guy. With him he is 1-1 with the top receiver and we can afforsd to put pressure on. It helps not playing Plaxico Burress too. The guy is great. Did you see him torch StL today?

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Unless we put pressure on the qb, any qb, we're in deep doo doo. Hate to say it, but K warner torched us last time we played the Cards and I look for more of the same. have to get pressure and limit his time to get the ball off. Clearly, Springs is a superior corner.


Hail Skins!!!!!
Posted by: Realfan | September 14, 2008 9:14 PM

Posted by: cosmofla | September 14, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

hail

Posted by: Brutus | September 14, 2008 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Chris Horton simply has a nose for the ball. The plays he made should have been made, but let's not take anything away from the guy...he made nice plays on the fumble pickup as well as the 2nd interception on the deflected pass.

Pretty amazing the guy is a 6th round draft pick, more likely to make the practice squad than the team, and he is part of the post-game press conference.

Keep it up Chris.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

THE GOOD
1.JC’s pocket presence and his quicker decision making. Finally got a deep ball to moss.
2. Balanced play calling with lots of players getting touches.
2. Horton should start next week, end of story.!!!!
3. Taylor looked better
4. Defense played great. Using westbrook (Byron) in practice to mimic Bush payed off.
5. Team looked to be very supportive of Zorn and Portis. Clinton has defenitley become the leader of this team, and the players respect Zorn for not ripping him for telling the truth.

THE BAD
1.Special Teams in general
2.With Taylor’s side drawing attention, why hasn’t carter stepped up.
3. Red zone offence. (Run the damn ball inside the 20), especially when it had been working up to that point.
4. JC needs to learn when to scramble and when not to, he should have on the 2 point conversion and several other times but he just kept looking down field, and the times he did scramble he allowed the defense to close on him because he never tucked the ball and sprinted, he just kept looking down field.
5. Saints d sucks, but at least we put up big numbers.
6.Carlos Rogers is not a good corner. Period.
THE UGLY
1. Take ARE OFF of the PR position. How bout #11, or rock.
2.Brooks was terrible. 2 more games like that and I say we cut him.


Posted by: Brutus | September 14, 2008 11:21 PM | Report abuse

I wonder what Sally will have to say this week? Probably a whole lot of nothing. Why does she only write after a loss?

Posted by: Matt | September 14, 2008 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Zorn needs to work on the press conferences. Anyone at Redskins park reading this can we send Jimmy to a Presentation 101 class?

He comes across more like a herbal remedy salesman than the head coach of an NFL team.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

I am a middle of the pack punter at best. I dropped the ball today and caused a safety for my new team. I suck!!!!

Posted by: D. Frost from Green Bay | September 14, 2008 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Wow, Gfunk! We gave up Champ and Tatum Bell for Clinton. I feel a lot better about that trade when I realize it was Tatum Bell that they picked in the second round -- #41 overall.
Posted by: talent evaluator

TE, I'm not one of the people who constantly rag on you, but... Who Denver got with that pick and what happened to him is not nearly as relevant as:
1. The fact that Snidely got his pocket picked. That deal shoulda been straight up player for player.
2. Who the Skins could have drafted with that pick. 2nd rounders are just as valuable, sometimes more so, as late round first rounders, and don't cost as much.
I'm just sayin...

God it feels good to see the Skins win a game they trailed in the 4th quarter. Real, real good.

Posted by: Redskin Willie | September 14, 2008 11:45 PM | Report abuse

"We've been a pretty decent running football team the last four years here," center Casey Rabach said, "and things haven't really changed personnel-wise and play-wise in the run game. It's nice to see Coach Zorn sticking to it when it's working, and obviously the West Coast offense isn't fit exactly for that, but he's evolving with us, and we're evolving with him."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/14/AR2008091402429.html

By mid season, if this offense continues to evolve, we may be heading to the playoffs. What we need to do is split games in division and we should be fine.

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 14, 2008 11:45 PM | Report abuse

COOLEY SHOWS HIMSELF
Posted by Mike Florio on September 14, 2008, 10:31 p.m. EDT
Redskins tight end Chris Cooley has endeared himself to the blogosphere by operating his own blog. Unlike many athletes who have their own web sites and aspire to fill them up with informative content on a regular basis only to do neither, Cooley has generally delivered.

Most recently, he delivered a little too much.

Though the post has been deleted from Cooley’s blog, the fine folks at Deadspin were able to capture the video evidence.

Cooley intended to take a photo of a page from his playbook revealing the “Tight End Test” for Sunday’s game against the Saints. The only problem? He was naked at the time, the playbook was in his lap, and so the picture included an image of Cooley’s penis.

Earlier in the evening, Deadspin’s post included the, um, full Cooley. The appendage was covered by a Redskins helmet (mini-size, apparently), after Cooley’s brother contacted Deadspin and objected to the presence of his brother’s junk on the Internet.

The bigger question, as we see it, is what in the hell was Cooley doing taking a picture of his playbook and putting it on the Internet? Though not as obviously wrong as, say, having sex with the maid on your desk, we can’t imagine how or why Cooley believed it would be appropriate, in light of the ultra-secretive world of the NFL, to put anything on the Internet regarding team strategy and preparation.

But, then again, a guy who didn’t realize he posted a picture of his d–k on his blog likely doesn’t have the best judgment.

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Which is the bigger OOPS? Showing your junk or part of the playbook?

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 14, 2008 11:50 PM | Report abuse


THE GOOD
1.JC’s pocket presence and his quicker decision making.

Posted by: Brutus | September 14, 2008 11:21 PM

JC had a good game but credit the O-Line. I didn't see a lot of quick decision making and I only remember him completing one throw when he really had to move outside of the pocket. He did what he does well -- accurate mid to deep passes. He still locked onto his primary receiver and struggled when he had to move off of him (he's good at hitting the saftey valve, but picking up 5 yards on 3rd and 8 doesn't do that much for me). But when he gets time, he's deadly.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Very nice come from behind win! The best offense we have seen in some time. If all of those field goals had been touchdowns it would not have been close.

. ARE needs to be relived from punt return duty. D. Thomas would be a good replacement. It seems it's the young dynamic players in the league that do well in this roll. ARE is not young any more, and has been bad for two years in this roll.
. Get rid of Cerratto. Durant Brook almost cost us the game. We can pin 13 points for the Saints on him directly...
.Clinton Portis was right, our O Line sucks!!! The 09 draft better be all about offensive line men...

Posted by: redskin | September 14, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Afterward he admitted that one of the most important plays of the day -- a fourth-down completion from Campbell to Moss that preserved the victory, was suggested by offensive assistant Chris Meidt shouting in his headset.

Meidt had spent the last six years coaching St. Olaf College in Minnesota, not in the NFL.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/14/AR2008091402459_2.html

This guy is going to help Zorn grow as a head coach more than anyone. Great suggestion by Mr. Statistic!

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 15, 2008 12:03 AM | Report abuse

Anyone else notice that very few of the offensive lineman congratulated Portis after his two touchdown runs today?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 10:44 PM
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The only o-lineman I saw congratulate Portis after both TDs was Stephon Heyer, who's new to the starting lineup. Now, maybe the other offensive linemen congratulated him on the sideline, I don't know. But Heyer was the only one I saw who did it on the field.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | September 15, 2008 12:03 AM | Report abuse

Kurt Warner today:
19/24 361 yards 3 TD O Int.

Wow; the guy can still get it done...
Very effective game; what was his rating?

Posted by: RedskinRay1

good point but it was against Miami; our defense should be able to reign him in

Posted by: skinsfaninsanfran | September 15, 2008 12:06 AM | Report abuse

i was first, by the way, from all the way out here in the CA.

hugs and kisses to all

Posted by: skinsfaninsanfran | September 15, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

BONG!

Posted by: Cheech | September 15, 2008 12:09 AM | Report abuse

BONG
BONG BONG BONG

BONG!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 15, 2008 12:09 AM | Report abuse

redskins.com is running a story on Taylor using the "skills" he learned on dancing with the stars during the gasmes. I like Taylor but this is the kind of crap I was afraid would happen when we traded for him. Its football season! give me a break

Posted by: Brutus | September 15, 2008 12:11 AM | Report abuse

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/14/AR2008091402428.html

Might be a kool-aid article, but kudos to Wise. Nice job.

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 15, 2008 12:11 AM | Report abuse

Welcome to Redskins Outsider...the game ended about 8 hours ago and no updated posts...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 15, 2008 12:21 AM | Report abuse


THE GOOD
1.JC’s pocket presence and his quicker decision making.

Posted by: Brutus | September 14, 2008 11:21 PM

JC had a good game but credit the O-Line. I didn't see a lot of quick decision making and I only remember him completing one throw when he really had to move outside of the pocket. He did what he does well -- accurate mid to deep passes. He still locked onto his primary receiver and struggled when he had to move off of him (he's good at hitting the saftey valve, but picking up 5 yards on 3rd and 8 doesn't do that much for me). But when he gets time, he's deadly.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 14, 2008 11:51 PM

Good point Anon, you are right the O-line played better but the saints d-line is much worse than the giants. However,Cambell did move well in the pocket and his pre snap desicion making was better.I.E. 67 yard bomb to moss in wich he caled a protection audible.

Posted by: Brutus | September 15, 2008 12:36 AM | Report abuse

Kurt Warner today:
19/24 361 yards 3 TD O Int.

Wow; the guy can still get it done...
Very effective game; what was his rating?

Posted by: RedskinRay1 | September 14, 2008 9:42 PM


I saw where he had a perfect 158.3, his third career perfect game (ties the record). It was against Miami, though...

Posted by: Hombre Secreto | September 15, 2008 12:36 AM | Report abuse

Not sure why Matt is picking on Carlos Rogers. Did they complete a pass on him today? Smoot is the one that plays way too far off as if he is afraid of getting beat deep all the time. I thought Carlos did pretty well today.

Posted by: oly46 | September 15, 2008 12:53 AM | Report abuse

THE GOOD
1. Chris Horton. Along with the rest of Redskins nation, I couldn't get off his jock during the preseason and I am FIRMLY attached now. The kid has a serious nose for the ball and folks, it's NOT a fluke when he's always nearby making a play. Doughty's fate is sealed as a special teamer and backup safety--like Prioleau in 05 (he was good back then).
2. Jason Campbell. The return of Jason "SOUP" Campbell was triumphant and brought back memories of Week 2 last season, when he tore it up on primetime TV. This time, he didn't overthrow Moss on the play when Moss was streaking miles ahead of the defense, and the offensive line didn't suffer any freakish season-ending injuries. If the O-line stays healthy, they will only continue to gel and look better, and the Skins will contend. Best of all, he came through in the clutch while protecting the ball. In fact, he lasted the whole game without a fumble or interception.
3. The Defense. All-around backbreaking performance stopping the run, which was superb given that Reggie Bush was held to 28 yards on 10 carries. Shawn Springs' decision to sit out game 1 may have been a smart one, because he was dominant today. Rocky Mac looks like he recovered from his knee injury, as he had some great plays. Missing Marcus Washington was unfortunate, but Blades has always been a solid backup and is a very versatile linebacker. Chris Horton locked up the starting SS role, no doubt in my mind.
4. Jason Taylor. WHAT A WARRIOR. He comes back from pain time and time again, and produced like his Pro Bowler self in this game. I saw him in on numerous plays, and he had that sack on Brees where he breezed by the lineman.

THE BAD
1. Special Teams. Allowed a TD return, although that was mostly Brooks' fault. Missed THREE field goals.
2. The Red Zone Offense. This is a normal issue with the Redskins, because they lack big targets. It was nice to get two TD's from Portis in the second half (especially on that beautiful draw play), but the passing game was limited in the Red Zone, and the Redskins often were resigned to kicking field goals. Five of them, in fact, 3 of which they made. Which brings us to...
3. Shaun Suisham. It's NEVER good when your kicker misses some close attempts. It's also VERY BAD when you cannot rely on him. He's not in "the ugly" because he had some great kickoffs for touchbacks, and his FG% was above 50.
4. The First-Half O Line. Campbell got sacked, rushed, had little protection at times. Portis had little to no running room on many plays, simply hitting a brick wall. Thank god they pulled it together in the 2nd half.

THE UGLY
1. Durant Brooks. I know he's a rookie and it will take him some time to get used to the NFL, but what the hell was that? Give the kid a chance for a few more games...but this is definitely cause for concern.
2. Antwaan Randle "Fell" (thanks RI poster) at punt returner. He JUKES HIMSELF OUT on returns and falls over--he tackles HIMSELF! He gives up costly fumbles (although it was a great strip by the Saints) that turn into points after the D already forced a demoralizing 3-and-out. He dances around with little forward progress. Put someone else back there, because ARE is a liability. That's my rhyme and I'm sticking by it. He's a great wideout but the dancing in the backfield isn't doing it for me.

Posted by: Crunkenstein | September 15, 2008 12:59 AM | Report abuse

On my honeymoon in Hawaii. Found a local Sports bar and was pleasantly surprised to find 6 or so skins fans watching the game.

Great win! Does anyone else think JC is more comfortable in the 2:00 offense???

Hail SKINS!!!

Posted by: Sig | September 15, 2008 1:03 AM | Report abuse

so jason campbell had one long pass completed against a third string back, whoopiieee!!! He still sucks, and is not a quality QB nor will he ever be one.
Enjoy the victory this team had against a team so decimated by injuries they were down to second and third stringers.

Posted by: jasonsucks | September 15, 2008 1:33 AM | Report abuse

Football is football, a win is a win.

Enjoy!

Posted by: stumped | September 15, 2008 1:45 AM | Report abuse

Hey jason,

just wanted to say YOUR STILL AN IDIOT.
No amount of sucking up to zorn or not giving the skins enough credit can change that.

Posted by: Alex | September 15, 2008 4:37 AM | Report abuse

Awesome win. Campbell looks a lot more comfortable with the Offense and the running game looked great. The one bad note: Shaun Suisham is absolutely terrible. I have no faith in the guy and am never surprised when he misses.

Posted by: vze2bnyf | September 15, 2008 5:52 AM | Report abuse

Did they let Jasno in the locker room? I can't say i see any evidence of it here.

Posted by: will_ga | September 15, 2008 6:05 AM | Report abuse

TE, I'm not one of the people who constantly rag on you, but... Who Denver got with that pick and what happened to him is not nearly as relevant as:
1. The fact that Snidely got his pocket picked. That deal shoulda been straight up player for player.
2. Who the Skins could have drafted with that pick. 2nd rounders are just as valuable, sometimes more so, as late round first rounders, and don't cost as much.
I'm just sayin...

Posted by: Redskin Willie | September 14, 2008 11:45 PM

Willie,

And thanks for that, but you've got it wrong. It was Gibbs who gave the second rounder and Bailey for Portis. I didn't understand the value then, and I don't understand it now.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 15, 2008 6:13 AM | Report abuse

Did they let Jasno in the locker room? I can't say i see any evidence of it here.

Posted by: will_ga | September 15, 2008 6:05 AM

Will,

You're tough, man. Jasno has plenty in the print edition, and there's lots of locker room stuff.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 15, 2008 6:14 AM | Report abuse

The one bad note: Shaun Suisham is absolutely terrible. I have no faith in the guy and am never surprised when he misses.

Posted by: vze2bnyf | September 15, 2008 5:52 AM

Suisham was strong yesterday. He missed one from 49 yards, not exactly a chip shot. The other miss was on the holder, Brooks. Brooks was looking away when the ball was snapped and didn't get it down cleanly. This is generally considered "bad technique."

The big plus for Suisham yesterday was that he put all his kickoffs in the end zone. I can't find fault with his game yesterday. What were you expecting?

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 15, 2008 6:19 AM | Report abuse

All i can say is I picked the wrong weekend to go to a funeral. watched the highlights. Did Horton get 3 turnovers, or 2.5 depending on how one counts a fumble, amazing work by the man who hears a who. Moss looked great and in 1 game covered more yards than he did 1/4 of last year.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 15, 2008 6:25 AM | Report abuse

Cant read thru all the comments from yesterday, but all you need to know about JC and where he is, was on that TD bomb.

he saw the blitz, picked it out, moved the player, audibled the play, avoided the rush and stepped up and threw a STRIKE!

Then his reaction was most telling, he swung around swinging his first and looked to the sideline with a 'I knew it!' kinda look.

He trusted himself and executed probably for the first time in his carrer... hopefully that growth continues.

Posted by: Zebra | September 15, 2008 6:30 AM | Report abuse

I echo a couple of comments here that I'm not at all excited about this. We've seen it many times before and the Saints were obviously down a couple of key DB's. Finally taking advantage of what they were giving you ALL DAY LONG, is not that impressive. Just like many of you want to use the excuse about Springs, et al being out last week (and that was a factor), don't get all gaga that the Skins and JC finally get it, because they don't. There will be many many more bumps in the road - count on it. Just keep it real!

Posted by: NoMore | September 15, 2008 6:45 AM | Report abuse

I echo a couple of comments here that I'm not at all excited about this. We've seen it many times before and the Saints were obviously down a couple of key DB's. Finally taking advantage of what they were giving you ALL DAY LONG, is not that impressive. Just like many of you want to use the excuse about Springs, et al being out last week (and that was a factor), don't get all gaga that the Skins and JC finally get it, because they don't. There will be many many more bumps in the road - count on it. Just keep it real!

Posted by: NoMore | September 15, 2008 6:45 AM

NoMore,

Why dont you go crawl in your hole and cry about your incredibly bad life. Every team has injuries and we get beat last week with Springs, so if you do not want injuries to be a factor get better backups.

They played a great game, do they still have things to work on sure but I will take the win.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 15, 2008 6:50 AM | Report abuse

I echo a couple of comments here that I'm not at all excited about this. We've seen it many times before and the Saints were obviously down a couple of key DB's. Finally taking advantage of what they were giving you ALL DAY LONG, is not that impressive. Just like many of you want to use the excuse about Springs, et al being out last week (and that was a factor), don't get all gaga that the Skins and JC finally get it, because they don't. There will be many many more bumps in the road - count on it. Just keep it real!

Posted by: NoMore | September 15, 2008 6:45 AM

Skins were down two defensive starters yesterday and I didn't see the Saints exploit it. Yeah there will be more bumps in the road. I think we all understand that.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 15, 2008 7:21 AM | Report abuse

Super Bowl here we come. Danny Boy Snyder is the greatest owner in the NFL. And all bow to the greatness of Vinny "The Gerbil"
Cerrato.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 15, 2008 7:22 AM | Report abuse

17 did 2 things he needed to do this year he needs 2-3 300+ yard games, and 1-2 4th qt. comebacks, to show he is a worthy starter.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 15, 2008 7:24 AM | Report abuse

Also the poster known as Alex is not me. Sir you give your name no dignity insulting people like that. The name Alex is a name of honor that means protector of men, and you sully it by behaving so.

Posted by: Alex35332 | September 15, 2008 7:25 AM | Report abuse

The bigger question, as we see it, is what in the hell was Cooley doing taking a picture of his playbook and putting it on the Internet? Though not as obviously wrong as, say, having sex with the maid on your desk, we can’t imagine how or why Cooley believed it would be appropriate, in light of the ultra-secretive world of the NFL, to put anything on the Internet regarding team strategy and preparation.

But, then again, a guy who didn’t realize he posted a picture of his d–k on his blog likely doesn’t have the best judgment.

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Which is the bigger OOPS? Showing your junk or part of the playbook?

Posted by: Curzon417 | September 14, 2008 11:50 PM

What about having sex with a cheerleader on your desk?

Did you see Cooley's "Get to Know Me" profile during the game. It was a quick-hit interview in between plays. Let me paraphrase what Cooley said (seriously):

"My name is Chris Cooley. I was an art major in college. I pretty much picked the easiest major I could think of. I'm not very good, I didn't really work real hard. But now I make sketches and put them on Ebay sometimes."

Posted by: p1funk | September 15, 2008 7:26 AM | Report abuse

THE GOOD
1.JC’s pocket presence and his quicker decision making. Finally got a deep ball to moss.
2. Balanced play calling with lots of players getting touches.
2. Horton should start next week, end of story.!!!!
3. Taylor looked better
4. Defense played great. Using westbrook (Byron) in practice to mimic Bush payed off.
5. Team looked to be very supportive of Zorn and Portis. Clinton has defenitley become the leader of this team, and the players respect Zorn for not ripping him for telling the truth.

THE BAD
1.Special Teams in general
2.With Taylor’s side drawing attention, why hasn’t carter stepped up.
3. Red zone offence. (Run the damn ball inside the 20), especially when it had been working up to that point.
4. JC needs to learn when to scramble and when not to, he should have on the 2 point conversion and several other times but he just kept looking down field, and the times he did scramble he allowed the defense to close on him because he never tucked the ball and sprinted, he just kept looking down field.
5. Saints d sucks, but at least we put up big numbers.
6.Carlos Rogers is not a good corner. Period.
THE UGLY
1. Take ARE OFF of the PR position. How bout #11, or rock.
2.Brooks was terrible. 2 more games like that and I say we cut him.


Posted by: Brutus | September 14, 2008 11:21 PM

Good post. With a few additions.

On the bomb to Moss, Campbell showed EXCELLENT pocket presence. He had a rusher come and instead of pulling down the ball and hitting the panic button (which we've seen so often), he shifted to avoid the rush, reset, and made the throw on the money.

THE GOOD - Actually got Cooley involved. Cooley is seriously open on every play and never gets taken down on the first hit/tackler.

ARE - Does any one remember the last time ARE actually ran forward on a punt return? He runs sideways and gets tackled every time.

Posted by: p1funk | September 15, 2008 7:34 AM | Report abuse

Slim you Dallas CowgilZ troll. Why don't you find you a nice Cowgilz chat room next to the trailer park, get you sister/wife to cook you some nice fatback on your belt buckel and ride you jackass out of Skin territory? And if you can't figure out which way south is it's the direction Jerry is reaching in to your back pocket to get every last dime you have left for the honor of being a Girlz fan. I'd like to see your toothless gums flapping on Tues. if the Egales doo what birds do to your GirlZ tonight. What kind of idiot talks smack in another teams neighborhood before his own team wins it's game, oh yeah! one from Texass!

Posted by: sbrtennis | September 15, 2008 7:43 AM | Report abuse

Did they let Jasno in the locker room? I can't say i see any evidence of it here.

Posted by: will_ga | September 15, 2008 6:05 AM

Will,

You're tough, man. Jasno has plenty in the print edition, and there's lots of locker room stuff.

Posted by: talent evaluator | September 15, 2008 6:14 AM

hmmm... guess i could have looked there first but at 6am coherent rational thinking isn't one of my big skills.

Posted by: will_ga | September 15, 2008 7:49 AM | Report abuse

Agree on ARE as a punt returner. Horrible. How about putting Rock back there? Brian Mitchell 2.0?

Nice to see JC finally pull off a comeback after falling short so many times last season. He was still late on a lot of throws missed a few as well, but the comeback is a sign of growth.

Durant Brooks - OMFG. But hey, Frosty gave up a saftey yesterday by botching a snap for GB.

I'm not so sure that Reed will be starting strong saftey anymore.

Enjoy this win, because I still don't see too many coming this season.

Posted by: etrod | September 15, 2008 8:00 AM | Report abuse

I nominate Anon's contribution to this blog as the best comment EVER. LMAO.

Posted by: Splitbill | September 15, 2008 8:07 AM | Report abuse

Good win yesterday for Zorn and the team. Seems like Z made the necessary adjustments at the half, Campbell had a good game, Moss, and Portis did as well.

Good to see Horton play well, and sometimes its a matter of right place, right time, and nothing more. I'm not sure this elevates him to the starting position, but its good to have him in the wings.

I'm INCREDIBLY glad they won, I cannot imagine what this place would have been like had they not pulled it out....

Posted by: Greg | September 15, 2008 8:14 AM | Report abuse

Beep Beep

Posted by: Greg | September 15, 2008 8:20 AM | Report abuse

beep beep....and good morning.

Posted by: Cindy | September 15, 2008 8:22 AM | Report abuse

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