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Analysis: Why Zorn offers no comfort to Campbell

It was definitely worth asking Jim Zorn on Monday about Jason Campbell's postgame comments to Comcast SportsNet's Kelli Johnson. And the coach's response was especially interesting.

Zorn apparently didn't hear Campbell's comments -- "I'm very worried about the situation I've been put in. I've been hit so much, it's not even fair" -- but he still didn't need much time to consider his response. In short: He's not shedding a lot of tears over Campbell's plight in the pocket.

"It's a tough game, played by tough men," Zorn said. "Nobody in the NFL, a player, is guaranteed comfort of anything. It's a hard game."

Now, no one expected Zorn to lament the offensive line or praise Campbell for mustering the courage to put on his helmet each Sunday. After all, Campbell is being compensated handsomely for this very task. Still, Zorn's complete lack of sympathy for the situation was interesting, and I wonder if it doesn't have a bit to do with Zorn's personal history as a quarterback.

What Zorn is watching Campbell go through each week is pretty similar to some of his own seasons playing quarterback in Seattle.

Campbell has been sacked 41 teams this season. Only three quarterbacks have been sacked more often -- Aaron Rodgers (50), Ben Roethlisberger (47) and Matt Cassel (42).

Zorn played two seasons in which he was sacked 44 times, leading the league in the ominous category in 1978 (though in no other season was he sacked more than 25 times). Playing for the expansion Seattle Seahawks, behind a terrible line, Zorn knows what it's like to be knocked around a bit -- and he knows how tough it is find your feet, get behind center and do it again.

It's likely that Zorn reviews game film and notices some situations in which Campbell holds on to the ball too long, instances in which Campbell makes a bad read or doesn't step up in the pocket. (Or course, there are plenty of other times when the linemen lie down in front of him or his running back fails to pick up the blitz.) That's why Zorn took a question about the pain and suffering his quarterback is enduring and turned it into a discussion about how Campbell can better help himself.

"I think he concentrates through things. It is part of the nature of the game. He's got to move in the pocket and throw the ball," Zorn said. "He's got a tough job, he really does.

"I would bet if you went and interviewed him, he would not want it any other way. He would want to be the starting quarterback here regardless of it being fair or not fair; he would want to be the starting quarterback here. I think it's a real privilege, and it's a treat to be the quarterback of the Washington Redskins."

Sounds like the kind of statement that a man who played the position and endured similar trials might say.

By Rick Maese  |  December 29, 2009; 6:58 AM ET
 
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Man who cares what Zorn thinks at this point. In 5 days we won't have to hear his mindless ramblings anymore..."its a tough game played by tough men"..BLAH BLAH BLAH!! You know what Zorn, its also a tough game that supposed to be coached by tough competent coaches, who know how to lead men!
Just cash Snyder's last check and shut up already!

Posted by: Predator48 | December 29, 2009 7:46 AM | Report abuse

Campbell should stop whining FIRST and concentrate on reading defenses and getting rid of the ball.

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | December 29, 2009 7:46 AM | Report abuse

Just cash Snyder's last check and shut up already!

Posted by: Predator48 | December 29, 2009 7:46 AM

Zorn won't get Snyder's last check until the end of next season.

Posted by: League-Source | December 29, 2009 7:55 AM | Report abuse

He shouldn't offer comfort to JC, JC gets paid to play so if he can't hack it then he should be cut.

So he's been sacked a bunch so have other QB's and they actually still lead there teams to wins. AR has been sacked more then anyone, yet his team is in the playoffs because he can move around and still throw the ball down the field.

JC is done he was never that good in the first place, and now he's scared not a good combination for a pro QB.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 29, 2009 7:58 AM | Report abuse

it seems to me when campbell gets sacked, its usually caused by a guy who was not blocked at all, running full steam and completely destroys jason. But with ben and aaron, a lot of their sacks are by the d-line just pulling them down after being blocked for several seconds.

Posted by: REDneckSKINhead | December 29, 2009 8:03 AM | Report abuse

Listening to Campbell play his sad fiddle every game is hard to stomach. Jason isn't the most sacked QB in the league, and two of the QBs sacked more are still in playoff contention.

Campbell shut up, man up, and get up. No one cries for you.

Posted by: MadeRED | December 29, 2009 8:07 AM | Report abuse

"AR has been sacked more then anyone, yet his team is in the playoffs because he can move around and still throw the ball down the field."

But doesn't this all go back to why Joe Gibbs drafted Campbell?

Gibbs envisioned Campbell standing tall behind a wall of protection.

He looked at Campbell and thought Doug Williams/Mark Rypien, 2.0.

He designed 'max protection' schemes with two man routes featuring undersized receivers in Moss and Randle El.

Scrambling and throwing on the run weren't apart of St Joe's back to the future dreams when he considered drafting Soup.

And drafting the linemen to block for it all wasn't either.

And now, the team has a Patrick Ramsey clone who's too gun shy to play the position right.

Maybe we should stop calling Campbell Soup and give him a new nickname.

From the way he complains, "Duck" and "Look out" would both suffice.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 29, 2009 8:21 AM | Report abuse

I agree totally with Jason Campbell.

I don't think the position he's been put in is fair at all.

There's no way someone can justify giving this loser start after start and giving him a paycheck only to have him turn around and whine about it.

The fair solution would be to bench him and show him the door at season's end.

Posted by: p1funk | December 29, 2009 8:24 AM | Report abuse

how come there's so many reds up here?

redcoat (the OG)
red mv
made red
red neck

i'm pretty sure i left some out...

Posted by: dealer1 | December 29, 2009 8:27 AM | Report abuse

"But with ben and aaron, a lot of their sacks are by the d-line just pulling them down after being blocked for several seconds."


They both have wide receivers who are play makers, too.

When was the last time you saw a redskin receiver make the kind of catch Mike Wallace made to win the game against the packers?

There is no Hines Ward or Santonio Holmes or Heath Miller or Donald Driver or Greg Jennings making plays on the ball, either

The redskin receivers are either developing players or undersized, easy to mug used-to-be speed guys.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 29, 2009 8:29 AM | Report abuse

"The fair solution would be to bench him and show him the door at season's end."

The smart solution would be to re-sign him, draft/trade for linemen, draft his replacement, and let him start at q-back up until the line shows it can block.

You can complain about Campbell all day, but the fact is, dude gets hit a lot.

Why expose another young quarterback to that?

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 29, 2009 8:34 AM | Report abuse

When was the last time you saw a redskin receiver make the kind of catch Mike Wallace made to win the game against the packers?

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 29, 2009 8:29 AM |

JC would have never made that throw because the guy was not wide open, JC only throws to guys that are wide open or he dumps off.

Posted by: Flounder21 | December 29, 2009 8:36 AM | Report abuse

Dealer, I hope thats sarcasem, why are there so many reds up here? maybe we should have them change their names to Skinscoat or something, that make it better?

Posted by: alex35332 | December 29, 2009 8:38 AM | Report abuse

MistaMoe that's the point. This offense is a mis-match of philosophies. he wrong type of players running the offense. It's what happens when you change OCs so often. It's also why it equally important to stick with a particular style for the next 5 years. If it's Shanny's WCO with mobile Olmen then draft that way. One cut backs, get me three of them please. A mobile QB that's accurate on the run,let's get him and let him.

Posted by: TWISI | December 29, 2009 8:39 AM | Report abuse

Charlie Sheen Allegedly Threatened to Kill Wife


According to the affidavit of an Aspen, Colo., police officer, Brooke Mueller said that husband Charlie Sheen held her at knifepoint and threatened to kill her during a dispute between the couple on Christmas morning. The argument escalated after Mueller threatened to divorce Sheen, and she said that Sheen has threatened her before. According to Mueller, Sheen held her by the throat on the bed and said, "You better be in fear. If you tell anybody, I'll kill you."


How many chances does C Sheen get?

Sheeeeezzzzzzz....

He and Tiger should go on a How To Be A Better Husband Tour.

Woods would have the clubs and cell phones.

Sheen would have the escorts and knives.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 29, 2009 8:41 AM | Report abuse

and i actually like zorn's response here...paraphrasing "if you don't like it have a seat and i'll put someone else in" and by someone else he means hunter the punter.

Posted by: dealer1 | December 29, 2009 8:41 AM | Report abuse

flounder makes a point, as Collinsworth pointed out, JC still doesn't get the 3-step drop, still doesn't lead recievers enough, but moe has a point, draft ol, and lets see how this works out.

I'd also like to point out that the triplets went from 21 combined catches their rookie year, with no touchdowns, to 87 combined catches, and 9 touchdowns...for those who think they're busts....

Also, Cutler looked pretty good last night, and had guys in his grille all night.....just sayin....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 29, 2009 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Why expose another young quarterback to that?

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 29, 2009 8:34 AM | Report abuse

Hey it worked so well with Ramsey and Campbell, 3rd times a charm.

I cant wait to go to the EagleBank Bowl this afternoon and watch my OWLS play football the mans way, with a big Fing O line and a fastynasty RB!

Posted by: alex35332 | December 29, 2009 8:42 AM | Report abuse

"JC would have never made that throw because the guy was not wide open, JC only throws to guys that are wide open or he dumps off."

And that, sir, is the most legit complaint about Campbell.

Even when he has blocking, he doesn't put the ball in a place where a receiver can make a play on it.

But to me, he's just a guy keeping things warm until the next q-back is drafted and groomed.

Rogers sat on the bench behind Favre 2-3 years before getting his shot.

I think that should be the redskin plan with the next q-back.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 29, 2009 8:47 AM | Report abuse

Bg the Redskins WRs lead the lead in YAC, so I'm not sure about JC not leading them correctly. His issue IMO is tha t he doesn't have enough trust in his supporting cast. He doesn't believe he will have enough time in the pocket, so he bails. He doesn't believe that his WRs will make a play, so he hesitates. What BA and Shanny need to determine is if JC can rebuild trust in his teammates and build trust in the new scheme to be a viable starter here going forward.

Posted by: TWISI | December 29, 2009 8:54 AM | Report abuse

dealer, its 'RedDMV', not "red mv"

Spell his name right...

My guess is because there are so many because of the, you know, fans of REDskins that post here.

I really don't have the will to do another Campbell debate on back to back days, but I'll say this:

For all the people that are saying the dude sucks, explain to me the games he has when he lights it up or just plays fairly well.

Most of the Campbell knockers don't even admit that the offensive line SUCKS! There is no running game or passing game right now because the offensive line SUCKS!

I mean, you all are seeing the sucktitude of the line, right?

And, what about idiot assclown, Jim Zorn calling plays and coaching?

I'm really hoping the only change made on offense next year is Campbell, I even want them to retain Zorn now just so everyone can see that it wasn't just all on Campbell.

Good grief, some of you just one-tracked minds... there is always an underlining... both sides to a coin, or what have you.

Posted by: RedDMV | December 29, 2009 8:58 AM | Report abuse

What a miserable week...first my dad dies, then George Michael, and then the Cowdungs shut us out. F 2009...2010 can't come fast enough!

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 29, 2009 9:01 AM | Report abuse

alex, red is a dolphins fan.

but i wish it was burgandy and not red (of ***skins). :) what can i say, i have a soft spot for the natives...i just love their casinos and their locations. if the white man wasn't around i wouldn't have to drive 3 hours to go to a casino. it'd be like 7-11...casino on every corner! not to mention legal, homegrown, organic pot. we'd be one with nature a la AVATAR. world/america would just be better.

Posted by: dealer1 | December 29, 2009 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Dealer, I meant that most the reds are called that because of the REDskins, Redcoat is called that because of his Brittness

Posted by: alex35332 | December 29, 2009 9:05 AM | Report abuse

"Campbell has been sacked 41 teams this season."
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41 teams??? WOW, that's a lot of games! You hang in there JC.

Posted by: hbu_dog | December 29, 2009 9:06 AM | Report abuse

Bg the Redskins WRs lead the lead in YAC, so I'm not sure about JC not leading them correctly

I'd venture to guess that based on what I've seen twis, that its more to do with the athletic wr/te that we have versus jc's pinpoint accuracy. When was the last time FD caught a pass, and didn't break a tackle or two??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 29, 2009 9:08 AM | Report abuse

Sorry to hear about your dad, brownwood.

Posted by: Original_etrod | December 29, 2009 9:08 AM | Report abuse

"I can't wait to go to the EagleBank Bowl this afternoon and watch my OWLS play football the mans way, with a big Fing O line and a fastynasty RB!"


I'm on player watch this bowl season.

Tony Pike v. the used-to-be mighty gators is the one game I've penciled in.

If Pike plays well against them, he moves up on my draft board.

Is Pike or Bradford or Clausen going to be the object of future RI insult and praise.

(The early money is on S Bradford. Clausen, though, can come in and run a pro system on day one: that's a plus and a half.)

We'll see.

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 29, 2009 9:09 AM | Report abuse

beeps

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 29, 2009 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Thanks, o_e. I was hoping I could at least get a Redskin win to perk things up and that went the complete opposite way. Probably irrational of me, but it makes me hate Zorn even more.

Posted by: brownwood26 | December 29, 2009 9:10 AM | Report abuse

I said this in a previous post: the Mike Wallace or Hines Ward Super Bowl catch are throws JC would never even attempt because he does not have receivers who can go get the ball like that. How many folks up in here actually WATCHED Terry Bradshaw with those great Steeler teams? Bradshaw would just fling it CLOSE to Swann, Stallworth, Jim Smith, etc., and those guys would GO UP AND GET THE BALL. Art Monk, Gary Clark, Ricky Sanders: PLAYMAKERS.
JC needs a new team so as to re-build his pocket presence, which right now is shaky. Think about it: a 5-7 step drop qb who has NONE OF THOSE PLAYS in the playbook. WTF? I've said before: you have a big-armed qb who fits the Coryell-Zampeeze-Gibbs style of offense, yet you hire a West Coast offensive coordinator. Stupid, but that was (again) the Snyderrato at work. If you had stuck with Williams and Al Saunders you might have developed JC better even though the o-line issues would still be there.
I will concede that JC may not be an 'elite' qb, but he can win in this league. JC is not the 'poster-boy' qb that Snyder wants, (Sanchez, Cutler) which really makes Snyder no better than these ignorant college AD's/Presidents who cherish facade and soothing the alumni vs. hiring and supporting the best man for a job or truly building from within to make a champion.
Pathetic.

Posted by: pdfordiii | December 29, 2009 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Steve Spurrier expressed basically the same feeling for his QB's when they were being tormented by defenses. Maybe it has to do with the fact they were both QB's.themselves. By that being, one would think they should be a little more sensitive.

Posted by: MHEDRLT | December 29, 2009 9:15 AM | Report abuse

When was the last time FD caught a pass, and didn't break a tackle or two??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | December 29, 2009 9:08 AM | Report abuse

The point is that the WR/TE (like Davis) are able to catch, then turn up field to get the YAC. It's not as if they are diving to the ground, picking themselves up, then running. I just disagree with your analysis. But I don't think that issue(his accuracy) will sway a decision on JC. He's accurate enough.

Posted by: TWISI | December 29, 2009 9:17 AM | Report abuse

I'm glad Zorn finally spoke up and told Campbell to suck it up.. He gets hit so what did he expect??? Besides QB's back in Zorn's day didn't nearly get the protection from the rules that Campbell gets today.. Besides as is pointed out Aaron Roggers and Ben Roethlisberger get hit more and they aren't whinning about it. Campbell is a cry baby.. most of the hits on him is HIS FAULT anyway. JC can't read a blitz to save his life and can't get rid of the ball fast enough so of course he gets hit. I can't wait until Campbell is gone.. One more game with this LOSER.. hope the door doesn't hit JC on his vigina on the way out..

Posted by: sovine08 | December 29, 2009 9:29 AM | Report abuse

First, brownwood has my condolences. I think that the manner in which Jason has been treated is down right criminal. The o-line was so neglected during the off season that players are going down and being replaced every week. The skins just get ANYBODY to play on the line. And for Zorn to act like getting battered and bruised the way Jason has year after year is just a part of the game is absolutely insane. I will be glad when Zorn is gone, and I hope that the new coach has enough clout to fix the o-line regardless of who the QB will be. No starting QB should be subjected to the type of punishment Jason has received. Randy Thomas, Chris Samuels, Mike Williams, and Stephon Heyer should be released.

Posted by: postwell1 | December 29, 2009 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Jim Zorn has a permanent smirk on his face and has a habit of remaining "medium" no matter what. Jason Campbell has a permanent clueless look on his face and has a habit of not exhibiting any sort of emotions whatsoever.
A marriage made in heaven if you ask me.
I don't think many in town will miss any of them if they both leave town no matter how nice they are as characters.

Posted by: JeanJak | December 29, 2009 9:53 AM | Report abuse

What a WussyPuss JC is...Sam Bradford, where r u?

Posted by: Lipty | December 29, 2009 10:03 AM | Report abuse

When was the last time you saw a redskin receiver make the kind of catch Mike Wallace made to win the game against the packers?

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 29, 2009 8:29 AM |

You make a good point. The only one I can think of is Yoder's catch in the back of the end zone. Can't even remember what game it was.

Posted by: MColeman51 | December 29, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

I have no sympothy for JC at all , he is horrible HOLDS onto the ball way toooooo long and has no clue how to read a defense. Now im not comparing the 2 in anyway but if Peyton Manning, Romo, Brady or Brees are back there they dont get sacked half of what JC does.
JC is afraid to throw the ball....let your WR try to make a play and some worrying about things. As much as I hate Brett Farve one thing he is not.....AFRAID TO THROW THE FOOTBALL. Oh well 1 more game to watch JC and his PUPPY DOG style....If it were me I would have put Collins a long time ago even he throws the ball quick and finds the hot read....JC sorry to say you will never be anything better then an above average BACK UP

Posted by: obxneric | December 29, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

This whole thing is like looking for tits on a chicken. Tough love is one thing, but no empathy is another. I just want this season to slip into a distant memory

Posted by: erthdog | December 29, 2009 10:24 AM | Report abuse

This is the first glimpse of honesty we've gotten out of JC EVER, and now people are telling him to shut up? We apparently have a lot of fans that hate just for the sake of hating. He can't win with some of you people.

It's obvious that when Campbell gets protection, he has solid performances. But when your RB is named Quinton Ganther, what defense is going to fear the run game? Of course JC is getting lit up, we have practice squad players in multiple positions, so why wouldn't defenses try to tee off every chance they get?

Comparing Campbell to Rodgers & Roethlisberger is unfair because they have better players at the skill positions and different skill sets themselves. Their receivers make the Pro Bowl. Our receivers? Cooley is the only one anybody really worries about.

I'll be glad when Sunday gets here, it will signal the end of off base comments from delusional fans that have spent more time rooting against their "favorite" team than rooting for it.

Posted by: KellRawLive | December 29, 2009 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Hey brownwood26... regards about your dad. Hopefully the Redskins will pull it together next year. My vote is for 3 offensive linemen.

Posted by: thorhero | December 29, 2009 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Get real, Redskins' fans!

Campbell will never be a Manning or a Brady, but the guy has shown courage and class all year in the face of an impossible situation. His fool of an owner disrespected him and then failed to sign the offensive linemen the team desperately needed to protect him(any 12-year-old fan could see that). The line he has managed to protect him for 1.5 seconds against a three-man rush by the Kansas City Chiefs, of all teams. Stephen Heyer routinely whiffs on his blocks. The offensive scheme leaves linebackers untouched on the way to the QB. Meanwhile, his receivers can't get open.

The question for Skins' fans is this: Who are your going to get for next year who will be better than Campbell? The team needs a quality left tackle more than it needs another QB.

Get some offensive lineman and let's see what Campbell can do. Pick up a couple of free agent receivers and hope we get lucky and one of them becomes a Steve Smith or Miles Austin.

Posted by: InTheMiddle | December 29, 2009 10:37 AM | Report abuse

campbell DOES NOT WIN! PERIOD. he didn't win when the o line was healthy. look at his record, look at how many times he's lead late 4th quarter winning drives. who cares about his improving stats, HE DOES NOT WIN! journalists need to STOP making excuses for him.

Posted by: criscila | December 29, 2009 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell just found out what it's like to play against teams hungry to make the playoffs and taking on third-string blockers.
And it isn't a unique problem: many good QBs are playing behind lines that are giving up plenty of sacks (Rodgers, Big Ben R.).
What Campbell lacks that these guys have is the ability to read defenses, to get rid of the ball sooner rather than later, to step up in the pocket (when there is one)and to recognize that sometimes you just have to toss the ball up there and see if your receiver can make a play.
JC should look at film of Tim Hasselbeck playing during Spurrier's last year. TH didn't possess the arm strength of JC, but he moved around in the pocket well, knew when to step forward, and quickly found the receiver in single coverage and often just lobbed the ball up there and hoped that his receiver could make a play.
All with the same lousy blocking schemes that left poor Ramsey shell-shocked.
It's okay to complain about really poor blocking--like we've seen the last two games--even Peyton Manning has done that.
But JC just hasn't grown. He's almost certainly in the wrong system, where accuracy is paramount. Having small receivers doesn't help either. Still, Moss shined a lot more with Brunell and Collins then he ever has with JC.
He reminds me of Mark Rypien--strong arm, but no sense of touch with the football.

Posted by: dzukijason | December 29, 2009 11:03 AM | Report abuse

JC is not an elite quarterback who can carry a team on his back, but there are very few quarterbacks who can do that. Those of you who believe that getting rid of JC will solve the Redskin's problems need a reality check. The Redskins need to build an offensive line and hire a coach with a defensive scheme that fits the skills of its players.

P.S. I believe that the Redskins should let JC go because both JC and the team need to make a fresh start.

Posted by: stephenaltobelli | December 29, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

JC has been set up for failure. We assume he can't read the defense/blitz, but as CP confirmed he is not allowed to audible/change the play upon the read. Only has time for three step drops and has Jim Zorn minus Vinny back calling the games. Do you really think that SL is calling these last three games? JZ has consistently lied this season TRIED along with VC to get rid of Campbell and they ALL JZ, VC, and DS povide him with the worst line in the league. Todd Collins went in a game for one series got crushed and said WOW JC can have this BS. JC will not be a Skin next year, but will just like everyone else with untapped/misused talent go to another team and succeed. Don't be surprised if he is leading a team to beat us next year

Posted by: Skins21-4everSmashmouth | December 29, 2009 11:13 AM | Report abuse

The sad part is that JC has to play for such a Sorry Azz Disfunctional organzation that hasnt quite realized in 10 years you start building a foundation with your Offensive line! Get rid of JC and you still have to same results with no line protecting him! Maybe one day reality will sink in! All Hail Skins SUXXXX!

Posted by: rlomax67 | December 29, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Redskins won two too many games to get either Okung or Bradford. Both will be gone by the time we picke at number 5. Detroit will take Okung and the Rams will take Bradford. If Suh some how fell to 5 would you take him or reach for a QB like Clausen.

Brady Quinn is not tearing it up in Cleveland and Clausen was not as successful as Quinn at ND.

Why not tender Campbell, see if we could sign another veteran like Carr and if nobody wants Campbell let them compete for the starting job with Colt Brennan.

Posted by: m_p_holmes | December 29, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Guys you have to look at film not just listen to the talking head. The film showed why Jason gets sacked so often not that it is his fault. There is not sight adjustment in the play by the back or the receiver therefore he would have thrown a pick if he was to throw the ball.

Posted by: jtrob_1 | December 29, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Football is an emotional game, and JC has the emotion of a doorknob. Men follow leaders, and just becuase you play QB doesn't mean you're a natural leader. JC needs to go to management class, learn how to motivate those around him, then he may becoma a leader. Until then, the doorknob at QB has the charisma of a blade of grass.

Posted by: ScottChallenger | December 29, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

I don't want to hear this BS about the O line not being good. We all know it's not NFL calibre. Let me summarize everything wrong with Jason Campbell: He's not smart enough to recognize defenses, period. Look at Brees, Romo, Ben, Brady, Manning, all barking out signals, all managing their offenses, all calling audibles for what the defense is giving you, all moving up and down the line ensuring that all 10 players on offense get the call and are lined up right. Campbell signals for a runner to go in motion,and that's it. When a play fails, he's got his head down, the body language of someone who just cannot lead and project himself outward as the guy in charge. The Skins need to say bye ot Campbell, get a guy in the draft or free agancy and see if Colt progresses. need

Posted by: getitritegov | December 29, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

I agree totally with Jason Campbell.

I don't think the position he's been put in is fair at all.

There's no way someone can justify giving this loser start after start and giving him a paycheck only to have him turn around and whine about it.

The fair solution would be to bench him and show him the door at season's end.

Posted by: p1funk | December 29, 2009 8:24 AM

AND I agree with p1funk.

Posted by: hock1 | December 29, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

When was the last time you saw a redskin receiver make the kind of catch Mike Wallace made to win the game against the packers?

Posted by: MistaMoe | December 29, 2009 8:29 AM |

You make a good point. The only one I can think of is Yoder's catch in the back of the end zone. Can't even remember what game it was.

Posted by: MColeman51 | December 29, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse
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You both bring up good points! Also, in order for the receiver to be allowed the chance to make a "catch" the ball has to be thrown with the right speed and to the right area of the receiver. In other words, Campbell does not have the touch nor the accuracy for those type of passes. That is why when Jason was out momentarily in the last Giant game, right away Collins was given the option to throw deep and Santana had his longest (46 yards) catch on the fly for the game. To me, Jason has been given more than enough chances to prove himself, however, I blame Zorn for not having the "Balls" to put the better quarterback for this offense and this situation at the beginning of the season. If the Redskins would have game plan for Collins more and let him start several games, I am sure the team would have won most of those earlier games. Anyway, the point is moot! Vinnie is gone and the world is good!

Posted by: JohnWWW | December 29, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Once again all of you Landover Loser fans that are still stuck in the 1980's, as long as that midget "The Danny" owns the team, it will fail. Furthermore, "The Danny" is only 44 years old so you have at least 30 more years of this train wreck to watch. Enjoy!!!

Posted by: redsoxnation | December 29, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Maybe we should stop calling Campbell Soup and give him a new nickname.

From the way he complains, "Duck" and "Look out" would both suffice.

Posted by: MistaMoe

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Given the comedic Marx Brothers-esque way the organization is run, "Duck Soup" would seem appropriate.

So I've read a lot of these posts and comments over the course of the season and opinions on the problems vary from it's Campbell, to it's Zorn, to it's the O-line, to it's the Front Office, and the correct answer is......yes.

Zorn clearly doesn't call a good game (when he was calling them), and I don't think does a good job of game planning for the talent he has or the opponent he's facing.

Even without the injuries, the O-line was suspect, but certainly ever since then, their play has sucked. Some of that is on them, more of it is on...

...The Front Office, which obviously did not do enough in the short term or the long term to build a good o-line.

And then there's JC. He's an average NFL QB. If he were playing on a better team, he would play better, but I think there's a cap on how well. Certainly the multiple offensive schemes haven't helped, but he has never struck me as an instinctive decision-maker and obviously he's no master of reading defenses, etc. His accuracy is ok, but he doesn't seem to have the kind of accuracy or touch to throw the fade in the end zone or make the kind of 'back-shoulder' throws that you see the better qb's make. How much of that is him, and how much of that is coaching, we'll never know.

There's no question JC is tough and has heart. But I often compare him to Jim Everett in that, while he is capable of doing great things, he seems to have happy feet in the pocket. I completely understand why he does, but I think he sometimes causes problems for himself by bailing on the pocket too early.

The other QB I compare him to is Vinny Testaverde. Vinny had a big arm, but playing on bad teams in Tampa Bay hurt his development. He then spent several years as a backup, where I think he learned better how to play the position. I think there is hope for JC in that path. I think as he gets older and his understanding of the game grows, I think he will be a more effective QB. Meaning he could be a better QB at 35-40 than he is now. Time will tell. He definitely has the talent to hang around the league for a long time. Hopefully he will stumble into the right situation, whether it is here or somewhere else.

Posted by: ts35 | December 29, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Loyal Fans,
It is a tough game played by tough men, and we also need tough fans to get us through the lower ROI that we've been experiencing. Please, do your part and buy new shirts/hats/socks and other items so we can boost our bottom line.
Thanks,
Mr. Dan Snyder

Posted by: DannyMSnyder | December 29, 2009 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Joe Theismann was sacked on average, 45 times per 16-game season in the early HOGS years ('81 to '85) during which time he led the Skins to 2 Super Bowls and 4 winning seasons.

I too have very little sympathy for Campbell.

Posted by: dc1020008 | December 29, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

It's funny how our offensive line and WR's turn into all-pro performers when Todd Collins enters the game.

Too bad the Campbell lovers in here can't get past the fact that he holds onto the ball waaaaaayyyy toooooooo loooonnnnggg!!!! and can't read blitzes or defenses like a normal QB with a normal or above-normal IQ can.

Let's just say I won't be too unhappy when he's gone after this season.

Posted by: dc1020008 | December 29, 2009 12:38 PM | Report abuse

I don't blame Campbell for one minute for anything he's said about being sacked.

-- Roethlisberger and Rogers have thrown 65 more combined passes than Campbell. The statistics also don't show that Campbell has been hit almost every time he throws the ball.

-- Roethlisberger and Rogers also average a full yard (Rogers) to a yard and a half (Roethlisberger) per completion more than Campbell. This should tell you that, unlike Campbell, they're holding the ball longer and have the resources and opportunities to throw downfield. Sacks are the consequence of more attempts at long gains.

-- Campbell's QB rating is higher than that of Matt Ryan, David Garrard, and Matt Hasselbeck. It's also 13 points and 22 point higher than the two guys Dan Snyder almost gave up the future of the franchise to acquire ... Jay Cutler and Mark Sanchez, respectively.

None of this is to say Campbell's an all-pro waiting to happen, but it does fairly and squarely point to a guy who's done a reasonable job in very trying circumstances. As for me, I say let no who hasn't been pounded to a pulp time and time again -- and gotten up time and time again -- be critical of anything JC has to say in this regard.

Posted by: semicolonpowell1 | December 29, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

This topics seems to comfirm some of the previous blogs suggesting your reporting is weak. The headline actually assumes anywone cares what Zorn thinks about Jason Campbell. Have you looked at Zorn's career record as a QB? W-L Record 44-62; 53% Completion rate; 111 TD’s vs. 141 Int’s; 2 winning seasons in 11 years (9-7 in '78 & '79). This does't excatly qualify him to give advice to JC. By the look on JC's face when Zorn runs over to give me comments - it seems JC knows it too. This record didn't even qualify Zorn for the OC position let alone HC.

Posted by: ssmoots | December 29, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

It's funny how our offensive line and WR's turn into all-pro performers when Todd Collins enters the game.

Posted by: dc1020008

Ok, I like Todd Collins, he's obviously better at reading the defenses than JC, but let's not get carried away. Against KC, KC mind you, Collins was 6 for 14 for 75 yds, 0 TDs and was sacked twice. Maybe they just didn't feel like raising their games to all-pro level for Todd that day?

JC does obviously hold the ball too long some times, and some times he also gets buried by lousy protection.

The question becomes if not Campbell, then who? And dealing with the expectations of potentially another down year if it's a rookie.

Posted by: ts35 | December 29, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry to hear your Dad passed away brownwood. Hang in there and always remember the good times.

Posted by: hessone | December 29, 2009 1:14 PM | Report abuse

I don't blame Campbell for one minute for anything he's said about being sacked.

-- Roethlisberger and Rogers have thrown 65 more combined passes than Campbell. The statistics also don't show that Campbell has been hit almost every time he throws the ball.

-- Roethlisberger and Rogers also average a full yard (Rogers) to a yard and a half (Roethlisberger) per completion more than Campbell. This should tell you that, unlike Campbell, they're holding the ball longer and have the resources and opportunities to throw downfield. Sacks are the consequence of more attempts at long gains.

-- Campbell's QB rating is higher than that of Matt Ryan, David Garrard, and Matt Hasselbeck. It's also 13 points and 22 point higher than the two guys Dan Snyder almost gave up the future of the franchise to acquire ... Jay Cutler and Mark Sanchez, respectively.

Posted by: semicolonpowell1

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I don't blame JC either, but I don't agree 100% with your conclusions. Big Ben does definitely hold the ball a long time. But I think both Ben and Rodgers are just flat-out better passers and better at finding WRs downfield and connecting with them. Some of that is probably scheme and probably some talent at WR. But some of it is definitely that Jason tends to check to the dump-off a little faster than those guys, in part (imo) because he was coached by Gibbs to avoid turnovers at all costs.

QB rating is a useful but incomplete stat, and JC's style of play lends to a higher QB rating. He's a low INT QB, which helps. And his completion percentage is usually good because of the aforementioned dump-off penchant. But QB rating doesn't take into account things like completing a 8 yard pass on 3rd and 10, which helps your rating, but doesn't do much for the team.

And I'm not going to defend Cutler per se, because I'm not a fan, but who exactly is he throwing to? All of his WRs are inexperienced. Granted he could help himself greatly by checking down a bit more...especially with a guy like Forte out there. He's also definitely more of a high-risk, high-reward passer, which does not lend itself to a good QB rating when things aren't going well.

Posted by: ts35 | December 29, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

JC is right, and Zorn is an even bigger idiot than I previously thought. Hit the road Jim, you just don't have the "essentials".

Posted by: Trout1 | December 29, 2009 2:23 PM | Report abuse

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