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Zorn Pleased with Effort, Energy

Coming off the embarrassing loss at Detroit, Coach Jim Zorn said he has been pleased with his team's effort and energy level at practice the past two days.

"I'm struggling to find words to be disappointed about different things," he said following Thursday's practice. "Our players are all together. They're committed to getting the job done, and that's what we're trying to do."

Good news out of Thursday's practice: Cornerback Carlos Rogers was back in pads and fully participated. He'd been slowed by an ankle sprain. Unfortunately for the Redskins, several other players were not in pads.

Running back Clinton Portis, who suffered a calf contusion Sunday, missed practice for a second day in a row. "He's coming along," said Zorn.

Defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth, who has a sore hip, was not in pads but did some work off to the side. Zorn said Haynesworth "had a really good workout and probably will participate more and more as we go along tomorrow."

Fullback Mike Sellers has a thigh bruise, but he did some running. Cornerback DeAngelo Hall tweaked his ankle, but Zorn said trainers iced it, and Hall should be back at practice tomorrow. Cornelius Griffin had a thigh bruise, but Zorn didn't seem too concerned.

The only player Zorn said might miss Sunday's game is defensive tackle Anthony Montgomery, who has a sore knee. Even when he was healthy, Montgomery has not been active for a game this year.

At the conclusion of Thursday afternoon's practice, players and coaches met for an extended period of time on the practice field.

"We talk about taking care of the details," Zorn said. "Basically, that's what I was talking about. And then we re-commit to taking care of the details. Then we re-commit to re-commit to taking care of the details. The whole idea I wanted to convey to these guys, it's really concentration. Some of the stuff is concentrating."

By Rick Maese  |  October 1, 2009; 4:17 PM ET
 
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"And then we re-commit to taking care of the details. Then we re-commit to re-commit to taking care of the details"

Sounds like someone should just be committed in the first place.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 1, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

If Stephon Heyer is getting crushed in every game, how come we have not looked at anyone else to bring in, especially if we have cap room. I really dont think we need Alridge, Mason, Rock, Betts and Portis for RB depth.

I hate to say it, but it was pointed out over the summer, maybe they dont build on the OL, cuz they dont want JC to succeed...would seem crazy to me, but Snyder is Snyder.

Posted by: mhartz1 | October 1, 2009 9:42 AM |

Hey, if we hadn't blown our 2nd rounder on Jason Taylor we could have picked massive RT Phil Loadholt. At 6'8", 350 lbs ain't no one crushing that dude. When I was looking at ESPN's tape of the Favre heroics I noticed this mountain next to him and I said "damn, didn't know the Alps was that close to Minn". I looked again and it turns out it was PLoad. LMAO!

Posted by: BlackBagOps | October 1, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Who cares what Zorn thinks anymore?

Posted by: RedDMV | October 1, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

"And then we re-commit to taking care of the details. Then we re-commit to re-commit to taking care of the details"

Sounds like someone should just be committed in the first place.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 1, 2009 4:24 PM |

Committed, yes. To an asylum.

Posted by: BlackBagOps | October 1, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Yeah BlackBag, but they probably would have just used that pick on another receiver if they had it.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 1, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

If Campbell succeeds then Snyder is proven wrong. You might be on to something mhartz1.

Posted by: NYSkinsFan1 | October 1, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

How many times must J Reid (a.k.a. Uncle Phil from the Fresh Pronce) refer to the loss as embarrassing.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 1, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

all details and no fundamentals--

the way of the Zorn

Posted by: pgugino | October 1, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

I second RedDMV.

Who cares? Unless Snyder or Vinny come out and endorse Zorn and Blache . . . then rooting for Zorn is rooting for a lame duck.

With the fanbase at full roar, their silence says they ain't sold on Zorn, so why should we be?

Posted by: kmag1 | October 1, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Hey, if we hadn't blown our 2nd rounder on Jason Taylor we could have picked massive RT Phil Loadholt. At 6'8", 350 lbs ain't no one crushing that dude. When I was looking at ESPN's tape of the Favre heroics I noticed this mountain next to him and I said "damn, didn't know the Alps was that close to Minn". I looked again and it turns out it was PLoad. LMAO!

Posted by: BlackBagOps | October 1, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, nobody is crushing that guy....except for Jason Hunter who crushed him the week before he crushed Heyer.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 1, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

From the Times:

Add DeAngelo Hall, Cornelius Griffin and Anthony Montgomery to the injury list.

Hall, the Redskins' top cornerback, and Griffin, their longtime mainstay at defensive tackle, were both injured during practice. Coach Jim Zorn said that Hall "tweaked" an ankle and Griffin bruised a thigh.

Montgomery, a starting defensive tackle in 2007, has been inactive each game so far. Zorn said that the roughness in Montgomery's knee flared up again today.

The coach added that Montgomery is the least likely of the ailing Redskins, a list that also includes defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth (hip), running back Clinton Portis (calf) and fullback Mike Sellers (quadricep), to be available for Sunday's game with Tampa Bay.

With Haynesworth, Griffin and Montgomery all sidelined, it's no wonder that Kedric Golston and Lorenzo Alexander came off the field involved in a lengthy conversation. They're the only two healthy defensive tackles although ends Phillip Daniels and Renaldo Wynn can play tackle.


I really wish they put Monty on IR, and picked up Turk McBride.....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 1, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

I decided to trip balls when I am at the game on Sunday. Hopefully that will enhance the game. Here is to trails and visions!!!! Go skinnnnnnnnnnns. They just need to keep feeding the ball to Gary Clark, he has been unstoppable this year!!

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | October 1, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

A newbie coach does newbie things. But he's got a good point- taking care of the details. Progress is progress.

Posted by: RedCherokee | October 1, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

oh and everyone can forget about o line in the front part of the draft next year. If any of that George Michael interview is legit--and i think the bad stuff about Snyder certainly is--then Snyder will want a QB or a RB to sell more jerseys. You can't do that with o linemen. They'll only take you to the championship.

Posted by: pgugino | October 1, 2009 4:35 PM | Report abuse


Who cares what Zorn thinks anymore?

Posted by: RedDMV | October 1, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully no one.

Would rather have CP as player/coach right now.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | October 1, 2009 4:35 PM | Report abuse

I really wish they put Monty on IR, and picked up Turk McBride.....


Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 1, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Lions just signed him.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | October 1, 2009 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Really don't get all the hate for the Baltimore Ravens.

I guess it's jealousy and envy, them just moving to Baltimore in '96, a SB win, their contenders on the regular, their front office, their draft, their defense...

I get it.

But that doesn't make me hate them. Hell, I'm not going to lie, when they aren't playing the Redskins, I root for the Ravens to win.

The Steelers too.

I can appreciate and respect good football. Those mf'n teams knock the piss out of people all the time. They play hard all the time. How can you not appreciate that?

Posted by: RedDMV | October 1, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Zorn could use a little humility -- at least Blache is taking some blame. Zorn thinks we're all morons and will buy his "we're improving...we're not that far off...just need to get better at a few details" speech. Gross.

Posted by: mattylight | October 1, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: RedDMV | October 1, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Red,

I dont really like the Steelers or the Ravens.

However, i respect their style of play, they are aggressive and they try to hurt someone. They dont try to contain, they try to intimidate and inflict pain. Clubber Lane style.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | October 1, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

I hear that HBO is working on a sequel to its popular series, "Pornucopia: Going Down in the Valley". They are going to call it "Zornucopia: Going down in Assburn".

Posted by: BlackBagOps | October 1, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

"More Zorn, honey?"

"No thanks, dear, I've lost my appetite for it."

In other news, says here the Redskins are 7-8 all time versus Tampa. Including Norv's first season when we had to play them twice because we were both so awful the season before (back when the scheduling was susceptible to fluky stuff like that). Played them twice in three weeks and lost both games. Ugh.

Sometimes I still wake up screaming the name "Errict Rhett."

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 1, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: RedDMV | October 1, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

I don't mind the Ravens as a team. It's cool to watch Ed Reed ball. Ravens fans are another story.

I can't stand Ravens fans.

It might be the years of hearing them talk about how good Kyle Boller was. It might be the Purple camo. It might be the bandwagon fans that they picked up around me on their SB run.

Posted by: PortisPocketsStr8 | October 1, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

"I decided to trip balls"

People always talkin about "hood speak".

But "middle America" speak is just as wild and funny.

Trip balls? Maybe one's nadsack can use a hemming? Chafed nads much?

In the Prince of Zamunda voice: What does "trip balls" mean?

Posted by: RedDMV | October 1, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Who cares what Zorn thinks anymore?

Posted by: RedDMV

I hope to God the players do! Fans dont need to care for the coach, but if the players follow suit all is lost.

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 1, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

That's a good line up. And have #37 blitzing.

Posted by: RedCherokee | October 1, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

See I think with that kind of cover scheme you now have a classic umbrella with 5 in coverage you can roll a blitz and coverage from any of the 3 safeties and do the same with filling gaps between the holes on the line. You could blitz corners and have a SS cover the sides wide receivers. Back in the day I used to put that scheme into Madden and create a whole playbook based on a similar coverage.

The Run stopping is a concern for such a scheme, 2 LB's means you need the SS's to be good tacklers.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 1, 2009 4:35 PM | Report abuse

It requires a lot of speed. I think that formation doesn't bode well for the likes of Fletcher and Doughty.

Maybe have Landry and Doughty switch sides, and play Landry at some sort of safety/LB position.

It might work.

Posted by: RedDMV

See I was thinking just about anyone in the secondary could be moved around depending on what is going on the other side of the field. But we have basically 3 SS's and Horton is really the best in coverage of the three IMHO. But by all means I would expect that we would move guys around from side to side to confuse the QB and stuff.

As a avid maddener I used to love designing my own D more then my own O.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 1, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: alex35332 | October 1, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Tripping around 90k people. All I can say is good luck man.

I have no beef with the Ravens or Steelers. They play and build the right way. Plus they are in the AFC and don't have any direct impact on the Skins.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | October 1, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

I'm shocked. I never expected to see TO throwing his coach and team under the bus after not getting enough balls thrown his way.

Bwaaaaaahahahahahahaha.

It really could be worse folks.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 1, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

trip balls means using LSD

disclaimer: THE FACT THAT I KNOW THAT MEANS ONLY THAT I HAVE RECENTLY WATCHED "INTERVENTION" BUT HAVE NO ACTUAL KNOWLEDGE OF ANY ILLEGAL SUBSTANCE TO INCLUDE LSD

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 1, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

HA alex, only a gamer would mention the 5-2 defense.

In Madden I roll with the playbook that has all the defenses. I only really have 4 or 5 defensive plays that I call. I mostly do a lot of shifting.

Love playing with the FS or MLB.

Posted by: RedDMV | October 1, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Sometimes I still wake up screaming the name "Errict Rhett."

Posted by: NateinthePDX | October 1, 2009 4:38 PM

Funny, sometimes HE wakes up screaming YOUR name. Weird. May some sort of dream travel thing.

Since the first Gibbs year, the Buccs have, to me anyway, seemed like the stalking horse rival to the Skins ... always with the "drats, foiled again" by the Buccs (except the Wild Card game when we ADVANCED on the LOWEST offensive yardage in a post-season win ... I remember thinking, wow, Brunell DID really pull that out).

I love to not love Tampa Bay, Chucky or no Chucky.

Posted by: dcsween | October 1, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

I'm shocked. I never expected to see TO throwing his coach and team under the bus after not getting enough balls thrown his way.

Bwaaaaaahahahahahahaha.

It really could be worse folks.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe


Did TO finally lose it?

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 1, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Trip balls? Maybe one's nadsack can use a hemming? Chafed nads much?

Posted by: RedDMV

Reminds me of the late George Carlins riff on sportcasters and 'two-way words'. Went something like this ...

"It OK for the announcer to say, 'the batter has two balls on him'. .... But he can't say, 'I think he hurt his balls on that play ........ yup, he holing them, he must have hurt em.'

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 1, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

What about Chucky as a coach.

Of course I mean in 5years when Zorn retires peacefully after 4 SBs and 4 consecutive playoff appearances

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 1, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Really, Cheyenne?

Acid? No thanks.

Posted by: RedDMV | October 1, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

"Some of the stuff is concentrating."

Must be some kind of Zen thing....Zorn's offense is so brilliant, if our guys just concentrate a little more, just a little more focusing, squint the eyes a little harder, we'll score TD's in the red zone...

Posted by: mattylight | October 1, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

“yoicks” to let you know I’m white.

Uh, dude. I checked the handbook and yoicks was not listed as representative of any regional white dialect in the country. Not even as a local colloquialism. I think you were thinking of old English circa 8th - 13th centuries. See quotations Hood, Robin; Men, Merry, et al.

Posted by: will_ga | October 1, 2009 4:58 PM | Report abuse

From the Times:

... Hall, the Redskins' top cornerback, ...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 1, 2009 4:33 PM

For the record, I disagree with the Times on this. Hall is the top PAID corner, but Rogers is a better corner. Picks, schmicks. Hall has only one, which really was Landry's hard work anyway. Hall has been out of position and been burned more than Rogers. What Rogers lacks in holding onto picks, he more than makes up for in busted passes, hermetically sealed coverage, and low low low YAC. SHOMER SHABBOS!

Posted by: dcsween | October 1, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

And, once again, NOT FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE! Going to a Redskins game while "tripping balls" does have its positive aspects - watching the logo in the middle of the field breath is entertaining if the game is boring.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 1, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Heard that Carlin before.

Dude was a beast with the stand-up, no doubt.

Wish him and Pryor did a show together, but not on the stage at the same time.

Posted by: RedDMV | October 1, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

I just caught this from a post article. Its the old stripper turned police spokewoman story. Heard it once, you head it a thousand times

"Detectives are still investigating the incident, said Capt. Misty Mints, a police spokeswoman. She said they had no suspects in the case."

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 1, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

trip balls - Taken from the SouthPark episode Sexy Action School News, when they go into the pharmacy to buy some cough syrup to "have some ideas". The pharmacist tells them "if you really want to trip balls" and suggests a certain brand of cough syrup to them. The episode later demonstrates said tripping of balls.

Posted by: BlackBagOps | October 1, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Red/Alex - Do you guys happen to play online wit the PS3?

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 1, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Cheyenne,
He acted the fool after their game last week (no catches) and has had a running tweet battle with Rodney Harrison all this week.

Dungy basically called him a coach's nightmare with a me first attitude.

It only took 3 weeks to get to full bloom.

SFO, Philly, Dallas, and now Buffalo. What a tool.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 1, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Yoicks? Never heard of it.

Zoinks? Vintage Shaggy from Scooby Doo.

[Back to that balls reference, ever notice that mysterious smoke that came out of the van when Scobby and Shaggy stepped out? Also, where did they come up with the name 'H.R. Puffinstuf'?]

Posted by: dcsween | October 1, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

I ask you, look under his eyes and tell me about the stuff he was puffin.

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTk4MDM1ODI2NF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwODIwMTQ2._V1._SX360_SY354_.jpg

Posted by: dcsween | October 1, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

... watching the logo in the middle of the field breathe is entertaining if the game is boring.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 1, 2009 4:59 PM

Watching the breathing is fine, but once you get into a dialogue, that's when the trouble starts.

Posted by: dcsween | October 1, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

No way shaggy and scooby were doing the sticky icky.

Next thing you'll tell me is that Velma was gay and Fred was "beating it up" with Daphne.

oh...nevermind

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 1, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 1, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Cheyenne, Fred wore an ascot ... not that there's anything WRONG with that.

Posted by: dcsween | October 1, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse

I think at his final press conference Zorn should give his best impression of Kramer when he got fired from a job and he didnt really work there in the first place...

"Im just tryin to get ahead"

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 1, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse

ESPN Zone restaurant closes it ATL. Local reporter tries to interview staff on camera and is surprised no one would talk to him. Sometimes the media are just clueless.

Posted by: will_ga | October 1, 2009 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Really, Cheyenne?

Acid? No thanks.

Posted by: RedDMV | October 1, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Tripping balls is doing anything that will take you on a "trip". That being acid, shrooms, etc. Generally speaking it is acid. I was joking, however, it would be one hell of a ride.

Posted by: ToddStinkston | October 1, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abus

Never would do it around that many people, that would be nuckin futs.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | October 1, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

PENALTY flag on 4th ... linking to an article about POWER RANKINGS ... AND its about power rankings after Week Three.

Loss of yards. Loss of down.

Posted by: dcsween | October 1, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

And what's his nose - Dock Ellis - claimed to have been "trippin' balls" when he threw a no-hitter. Apparently, he wasn't scheduled to start, and decided to kick back in the bullpen and enjoy the show with some chemical enhancement.

The regular starter got ill, and Dock was called upon. He walked like 9 batters, but no one got a hit.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | October 1, 2009 5:19 PM | Report abuse

I have a staff meeting in ten minutes and over the past few weeks I have been testing the threshhold of my new boss. I bring random items to the meeting to see where the do-not-cross line is.

Just to see if he pays attention I am going to challenge my co-worker to a good old fashioned game of paper football on the conference table.

I predict a 63 - 13 beating. stay tuned

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 1, 2009 5:21 PM | Report abuse

From JReid's previous post:

""Jim Zorn and defensive coordinator Greg Blache have shouldered responsibility for the repeated breakdowns of a group expected to be the strength of the team, and the staff is doing what it can to effect positive change.""

!?!?!??!??!

I have yet to hear Zorn shoulder responsibility for anything. He continues to stand by many of the shady decisions/play calls he's made that have backfired on him.

And how is Blache diving under the bus??? More like he's throwing Horton under the bus. The move reeks of cowardice. Blache wants to "send a signal" so he picks on the starter who isn't making a bunch of money b/c he's a 7th round pick.

Haynesworth, Hall, Orakpo, Landry and Rogers are just as at fault for the defensive breakdowns (if not moreso) as Horton...funny that none of those guys are getting benched.

Posted by: p1funk | October 1, 2009 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Hip Hip Horray!

Posted by: dmorgan6617 | October 1, 2009 5:31 PM | Report abuse

And what's his nose - Dock Ellis - claimed to have been "trippin' balls" when he threw a no-hitter. Apparently, he wasn't scheduled to start, and decided to kick back in the bullpen and enjoy the show with some chemical enhancement.

The regular starter got ill, and Dock was called upon. He walked like 9 batters, but no one got a hit.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston

I remember that, though Ellis doesn't recall it.

Reminds me of the story about when Koufax would pitch, the night before the bullpen guys would get hammered because Koufax pitched complete games.

So Koufax is struggling one game and the manager comes out to talk with him.

"How you feeling Sandy?"

"A lot better than the guys in the bullpen ..."

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 1, 2009 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Hey Barno1 - Tony Dungy is even saying the Redskins have an organizational problem. But there is no way Tony Dungy knows more about football than you; right Barno1?

BTW - Organizational means the entire organization, which starts at the very tippy top, as in the owner, Daniel Dysfunctional Synder.

Posted by: SkinsKen | October 1, 2009 2:43 PM


hahahahhahahahahahahahaha. post of the year.

take that barno.

Hey SkinsKen, ask barno about Terps football or basketball. He'll tell you everything is PERFECT in Fridge's and Gary's world, and that both coaches are Gods among men.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 1, 2009 5:54 PM | Report abuse

trip balls - Taken from the SouthPark episode Sexy Action School News, when they go into the pharmacy to buy some cough syrup to "have some ideas". The pharmacist tells them "if you really want to trip balls" and suggests a certain brand of cough syrup to them. The episode later demonstrates said tripping of balls.

Posted by: BlackBagOps

Term was around waaaaay before South Park...

Re: Acid. Red man, don't knock it till you tried it! Good times good times....wait what are we talking about b/c a giant crow was pecking my at my cerebellum....huh....no thank you I don't need to ride the unicorn now maybe next time....strange Zorn is starting to make sense...can someone pass me the slinky?

Posted by: chrislarry | October 1, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Anyone going to watch the Capitals tonight?

Posted by: CheyenneWY | October 1, 2009 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Hey ChrisLarry, we can't stop here, this is bat country.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 1, 2009 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Zorn…....play Marko Mitchell and Anthony Aldridge, have the QB actually throw MM the ball and give AA some carries. For some reason, you will activate players and sit them on the bench. We're talking about a 6'4 receiver and a RB with 4.3 speed. Give MM & AA a chance to make plays…what do you have to lose besides your job?

Posted by: pennstate1 | October 1, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse

John Lopez at SI

Washington Redskins (1-2) -- You're kidding, right? You don't already know the answer to whether the Redskins can rise from a 1-2 record and make a playoff run? You probably also believe in Jim Zorn and the Arbor Day Fairy.

Like Zorn, it's all over but the exit interview for this team. Turmoil rules the day, there is a severe disconnect between players and Zorn, who clearly is in over his head. At its core, this team has severe personnel and talent issues.

This was supposed to be a breakthrough year. Instead, this team was the Detroit Lions' slump-buster on Sunday afternoon. The Redskins' only win was over the horrible St. Louis Rams and that came without scoring a touchdown. No team has given up more third-down conversions than the Redskins, which is an indictment of defensive play-calling.

Quarterback Jason Campbell has thrown just three TD passes. The offensive line is a patchwork, overmatched group. And the two big-ticket items, defensive tackle Haynesworth and cornerback DeAngelo Hall, have not nearly brought the return expected on $64 million worth of guaranteed money.

From where the Redskins are now, it would take the most miraculous comeback since Mount Calvary for this team to make the playoffs.


Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 1, 2009 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Zeke,
That sums up things rather nicely.

If they get beat on Sunday, we go from bottom feeder to rock bottom.

Posted by: _Stumped_ | October 1, 2009 6:30 PM | Report abuse

I missed work today, stayed home, had a hangnail. But I was taking mental reps. Tomorrow will be a gametime decision.

Posted by: VegasJim | October 1, 2009 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Ugh sports host who uses a lot of humor rather than bombast just did his monologue about how the word "zorn" now means bad and incompotent. Then it was all ny zorns instead of mets etc etc...,

laughing stock status reached

Posted by: chrislarry | October 1, 2009 6:54 PM | Report abuse

I agree with about 1/2 of what Lopez said.

Zorn is over his head, the OL is patchwork -- in 2 spots, not 5, and the big ticket items are underachieving -- Hall being the bigger problem.

Don't agree that the team has severe personnel issues, the OL is the only place where talent is lacking. I'm not sure how big the disconnect is, or that things can't be improved upon, a lot.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 1, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

"Zorn Pleased with Effort, Energy"

Ain't that just precious? Mr. Clueless is satisfied with how his guys are looking during practice.

Yo - Mr Clueless - Effort and Energy don't mean jack Monday through Saturday. It is on Sunday that your guys need to show the effort and energy to win and settle for nothing but complete and utter domination of their opponent! Until you can move yourself off the medium setting and start lighting fires under these overpaid jewelry carriers, the Redskins will continue to lanquish in their complete state of "medium".

And, please, Mr. Clueless, stop jumping up and down on the sidelines like a little girl. After seeing your level of un-medium after an obvious Redskin penalty against a receiver, we don't need to be more humiliated!

Posted by: laserwizard | October 1, 2009 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Vinny was on Redskins Nation today (he makes an appearance every Thursday) and Larry Michael mentioned how horrific it was that "some person who doesn't even live in DC" tried to crucify Snyder and Vinny. Of course, he was talking about that evil woman Sally Jenkins. Vinny said "Perhaps she would like to come on the radio show" (Inside the Red Zone).

I actually think that would be a great idea. Evil Sally mentioned that Snyder would not agree to an interview (obviously she was really smoking something if she thought Snyder would give the hated WaPo an interview) so why not call into Vinny's show? Could be good.

Posted by: Lisa_R | October 1, 2009 7:12 PM | Report abuse

"Anyone going to watch the Capitals tonight?

Posted by: CheyenneWY

u know it! rock the red!!!!

Posted by: chrislarry | October 1, 2009 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Talking after practice today, coach Jim Zorn would not let his defensive coordinator take full responsibility for the difficulties the team is experiencing on defense.

"I wouldn't even give it to Greg [Blache]. It's my responsibility. I mean, I'm in charge of offense, defense, and special teams. So Greg doesn't have to do that, that's my responsibility. That's why ... we want to continually improve. We want to continually get better in all phases. I think we're ... it's hard to say we're on our way, because it's my responsibility and we had a big 'L', which stands for loser, in the game. So we're taking care of that, and I appreciate Greg for saying that."

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | October 1, 2009 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Replacing C. Horton with Doughty is like replacing cold fries with flat soda.

I know, I know, this was the focus in an earlier thread. A move that would actually make a difference would be to bench that phony L. Landry. Mr., I make the prettiest air tackles in the league. Just watch my intensity as I fly past the ball carrier I'm supposed to be tackling.

Posted by: all_star_0013 | October 1, 2009 7:15 PM | Report abuse

"Larry Michael mentioned how horrific it was that "some person who doesn't even live in DC" tried to crucify Snyder and Vinny. "


Like zip code means sqaut for a TV sport in the age of the internet.

Larry Michaels is a fool...

is there anything more puke worthy than vinny and michaels smugly yucking it while the team is a national joke?

Posted by: chrislarry | October 1, 2009 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Here're are a couple of thoughts re our Redskins;
1. Snyder makes his money by taking it from people who aren'tas smart as he is. I mean he markets to the genreal public, you and me, John Q. Citizen. He has no experience beating or competing with people who are as smart as he is or smarter. Consequently, he thinks it is too easy to compete in the NFL. He has no idea haow smart his competition is or how to be as smart as they are. When he gets that part, if he gets that part, then we'll have our team back because Snyder will have hired someone to deliver it to us. Which brings me to point #
2. So now all the talk is that we don't operate as a team. We can go on and on about how free agency kills our Redskins, and it does. We can go on and on about the need to build a winner from the lines first. There's more than the obvious in that. Players fear and respect (In the NFL respect comes from fear.) linemen more than any other positions. Linemen are big and strong and they are the street fighters in the game. Linemen wear facemasks to keep them from biting people not to protect there visages. When a team is built from the lines to the backfield, the backfield players come to understand that they play for the linemen. So called skill players do anything they can to curry favor from linemen when the team is built from the line. Skill players know better than to miss an assignment or a route. They fear their own linemen when that team is built from the line.
Dear, Mr. Snyder, the above is written to you. I hope one of your boys will bring these points to your sorry as attention.
Neil in Durango, aka, Mr Chili

Posted by: MrChili | October 1, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

I decided to trip balls when I am at the game on Sunday. Hopefully that will enhance the game. Here is to trails and visions!!!! Go skinnnnnnnnnnns. They just need to keep feeding the ball to Gary Clark, he has been unstoppable this year!!

Posted by: gatorskinz2000


Wouldn't recommend it, you would probably end up wiggin out on the sorry ass fans who tell you to sit down when you're trying to fire up the team. Hate Fed EX, long for the RFK days.

Posted by: bhoang888 | October 1, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

live in cleveland and the jersey I see the most is LT joe thomas, so lineman can sell jerseys. however, their line was sopposed to be their strong point but they are still terrible. it helped 2 years ago but that was because anderson was having a career year and lewis had something to prove.

Posted by: hcic55 | October 1, 2009 7:49 PM | Report abuse

PENALTY flag on 4th ... linking to an article about POWER RANKINGS ... AND its about power rankings after Week Three.

Loss of yards. Loss of down.

Posted by: dcsween | October 1, 2009 5:11 PM

That's what that thing was?

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 1, 2009 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Blah, blah, blah Vinny. Blah, blah, blah Danny. Blah, blah, blah Danny. Blah, blah, blah sucks. Blah, blah, blah JC. Blah, blah, blah Zorn.

I've had enough og this teams blah's...
this will hopefully make y'all forget about the blah's for a minute:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WxYSNvEZfM&feature=related

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 1, 2009 7:55 PM | Report abuse

"I've had enough og this teams blah's..."

great throwaway line, with a shocking amount of layers....

caps 1-0!

Posted by: chrislarry | October 1, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

I do not hate Dan Snyder.

I do not hate Vinny Cerrato.

I do not like Dan Snyder.

I do not like Vinny Cerrato.

Posted by: rickyroge | October 1, 2009 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Where's the hate for Abe Pollin?

30 years since the last championship.

Talk about bad personnel decisions...

Kevin Duckworth
Rip Hamilton
Rasheed Wallace
Ben Wallace

shall I go on?

Posted by: rickyroge | October 1, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Jason Campbell is ranked ninth in the league in passing. His numbers are better than T. Brady's, Big Ben's, P. Rivers', T. Romo's and 23 other starting quarterbacks.

He has only 48 less passing than D. Brees, who is highest in the league. His completion percentage is third best in the league. His yards per attempt is eighth in the league.

There should be a significant uptick in his numbers over the next three games. He could easily be in the top three in passing by week six.

Who will the naysayers blame when they can't attribute the team's woes to Soup?

Posted by: all_star_0013 | October 1, 2009 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Duckworth...ha...nice pull...

But who cares about the Wizards....

That said I LOVE that Abe Pollin no longer owns my beloved CAPS!

Also I don't hate Vinny/Danny either...thats to strong. But deep dislike...perhaps.

Posted by: chrislarry | October 1, 2009 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like the repeat of the story that ran across the newswires yesterday talking about how too many hits to the head have left certain football players demented and delusional.

Am wondering how many hits to the head Zoron the Moron took in that he now believes several named starters are demonstrating sufficient effort and energy -- despite the fact they are only chilling out and telling jokes on the sidelines.

So lets just talk about some these details. The team continues to suffer from lack of teamwork, effort and execution -- the overall timing and synchronization are off, the dufus quarterback can neither see nor throw down field, the run game is virtually non-existent, the receivers can't seem to run their patterns effectively, the defensive line is as pourous as a sieve, and the defensive backs can't seem to find or cover their assigned receivers.

But other than that, all appears to be well in Ashburn.

Yet, you might call me somewhat skeptical. I don't know how they could fixed much of that on the practice field -- especially and again since so many starters were on the sideliness, wearing icepacks and telling jokes -- but any way it goes down, Sunday should be really amusing.

Posted by: Vic1 | October 1, 2009 8:19 PM | Report abuse

it was still gibb's team that started 6-2 last year, then, once zorn's medium philosophy became fully infused, his team is 3-8.

Posted by: mohawk44 | October 1, 2009 8:28 PM | Report abuse

I hear ya' Chris...

For all those that are piling on...

If you hate Snyder, don't stop there.


Let me really air it out...

Jason Campbell- Don't give Campbell a pass. This guy has not led us to a come from behind victory on the road...he locks in on receivers...he has a slow release...and you know good and well he is nowhere near one of the best QB's in the league no matter what his stats say. He is mediocre at best yet we make every excuse in the world for him...it's the owner, coach, system, WR's...

Jim Zorn...He may be a good coach someday, but he sucks at utilizing personnel. You put ARE back there for punts with no nuts to put someone back there who is hungry and will fight for every yard. We rip Cerrato for Thomas, Kelly and Davis but Zorn won't play him

Joe Gibbs 2.0...Mr "we don't need no stinkking draft picks"...Kevin Duckworth!!!! Gibbs coddled Portis, played Brunell even when he was hurt....overcommitted to veterans...brought in Al Saunders to confuse us more...

Steve Spurrier...Snyder's worst hire!

Marty Schottenheimer...All ya'll johnny come latelies..."He shoulda never been fired"...same ones calling for his head

Posted by: rickyroge | October 1, 2009 8:36 PM | Report abuse

"Larry Michael mentioned how horrific it was that "some person who doesn't even live in DC" tried to crucify Snyder and Vinny. "


Like zip code means sqaut for a TV sport in the age of the internet.

Larry Michaels is a fool...

is there anything more puke worthy than vinny and michaels smugly yucking it while the team is a national joke?

Posted by: chrislarry

If anything, its stuff like this that kills the fan base.

Even marginal fans know there is something very wrong with losing to a team that has lost 19 straight, the week after barely beating a team that had lost about 10 straight.

Larry Michaels reminds me of that character (played if I recall, by a very young Kevin Bacon), who, during the riot at the end of Animal House (hope I didn't ruin the ending for any of you), yells "All is well. All is well" ... when all was, ummmm, not well.

Vinny and Michaels putting down their critics has that same 'clueness denial' quality to it.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 1, 2009 8:37 PM | Report abuse

i think portis needs glasses.

Posted by: mohawk44 | October 1, 2009 8:41 PM | Report abuse

whoops

Posted by: chrislarry | October 1, 2009 9:05 PM | Report abuse

throwback footage in NFL network - skins vs bucs

Posted by: kdofour2000 | October 1, 2009 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Re: Where's the hate for Abe Pollin?

a) Pollin took _tons_ of criticism during the Wizards' long no-playoff run. Too cheap, going for gimmicks (Minute Boll?), and more.

b) Plenty of people are happy he sold the Caps to Leonsis.

c) He's never faced the vitriol heaped on Snyder because Pollin isn't a jerk who sucks every dime he can out of his fans or sues them when they're overextended.

Posted by: asdf5 | October 1, 2009 9:09 PM | Report abuse

We scored 35 points

Posted by: kdofour2000 | October 1, 2009 9:10 PM | Report abuse

I hear ya' Chris...

For all those that are piling on...

If you hate Snyder, don't stop there.


Let me really air it out...

Jason Campbell- Don't give Campbell a pass. This guy has not led us to a come from behind victory on the road...he locks in on receivers...he has a slow release...and you know good and well he is nowhere near one of the best QB's in the league no matter what his stats say. He is mediocre at best yet we make every excuse in the world for him...it's the owner, coach, system, WR's...

Jim Zorn...He may be a good coach someday, but he sucks at utilizing personnel. You put ARE back there for punts with no nuts to put someone back there who is hungry and will fight for every yard. We rip Cerrato for Thomas, Kelly and Davis but Zorn won't play him

Joe Gibbs 2.0...Mr "we don't need no stinkking draft picks"...Kevin Duckworth!!!! Gibbs coddled Portis, played Brunell even when he was hurt....overcommitted to veterans...brought in Al Saunders to confuse us more...

Steve Spurrier...Snyder's worst hire!

Marty Schottenheimer...All ya'll johnny come latelies..."He shoulda never been fired"...same ones calling for his head

Posted by: rickyroge | October 1, 2009 8:36 PM | Report abuse
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Dude, didn't you say last week the Skins would be the crap out of the Lions?

Posted by: clark202 | October 1, 2009 9:12 PM | Report abuse

is there anything more puke worthy than vinny and michaels smugly yucking it while the team is a national joke?

Posted by: chrislarry | October 1, 2009 7:18 PM |

Probably not. But your dreary, boring repetitive posting might come in a close second. I know it is hard, but try coming up with an original thought every now and then.

Posted by: TalkToTheHand | October 1, 2009 9:48 PM | Report abuse

...but try coming up with an original thought every now and then.

My god, man, what's with all the rules? The last original thought Up Here involved Periculum lobbying for us to pick up Priest Holmes!

Posted by: daggar | October 1, 2009 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: rickyroge | October 1, 2009 8:36 PM | Report abuse
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Dude, didn't you say last week the Skins would be the crap out of the Lions?

Posted by: clark202 | October 1, 2009 9:12 PM |

Cut him a little slack. He is having one of his senior moments.

Posted by: TalkToTheHand | October 1, 2009 9:54 PM | Report abuse

My god, man, what's with all the rules? The last original thought Up Here involved Periculum lobbying for us to pick up Priest Holmes!

Posted by: daggar | October 1, 2009 9:53 PM |

Touche.

Posted by: TalkToTheHand | October 1, 2009 9:56 PM | Report abuse

If this coach is please with anything he's a moron.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 1, 2009 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Probably not. But your dreary, boring repetitive posting might come in a close second. I know it is hard, but try coming up with an original thought every now and then.

Posted by: TalkToTheHand | October 1, 2009 9:48 PM |

Just scrolled through the thread and I must have missed where you had an original thought. Could you point it out for me? Pot, meet kettle.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 1, 2009 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Just scrolled through the thread and I must have missed where you had an original thought. Could you point it out for me? Pot, meet kettle.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 1, 2009 9:58 PM |

Right. I didn't have one and didn't post it, sucker. Thanks for talking to the hand!

Posted by: TalkToTheHand | October 1, 2009 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Right. I didn't have one and didn't post it, sucker. Thanks for talking to the hand!

Posted by: TalkToTheHand | October 1, 2009 10:00 PM |

Ah, nice one. I hope I can recover. I love your dead early 2000's catch phrase handle. How about you talk to my nuts.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 1, 2009 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Are your nuts in a talking mood?
Probably need to have that looked at.

Posted by: daggar | October 1, 2009 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Are your nuts in a talking mood?
Probably need to have that looked at.

Posted by: daggar | October 1, 2009 10:07 PM

lol

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 1, 2009 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Nothing like being called boring and repetitive by a dude who's handle is a tired cliche from the Ricki Lake show!

(who then follows it up with a 'senior moment' joke)

Posted by: chrislarry | October 1, 2009 10:19 PM | Report abuse

How about you talk to my nuts.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 1, 2009 10:05 PM |

Ooooh. Just like crislarry. Not original. RedDMV has posted many times on RI about his nads and what he thinks his perceived detracturds should do with them. But I will humor your request anyway.

"Hi almonds. Whassup!"

That's about it. Unfortunately those almonds in that bowl on your coffee table are the only nuts you have. Heh, heh.

Posted by: TalkToTheHand | October 1, 2009 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Pretty weak hand. And your joke sucked too.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | October 1, 2009 10:27 PM | Report abuse

I am just going to let Talktothehand's jokes and insults speak for themselves. Keep'em coming Rupert Pumpkin.

Posted by: chrislarry | October 1, 2009 10:31 PM | Report abuse

I must say it's a sad day when RI degrades into a "talk to my hand or my nuts" conversation. Considering how the 'Skins are playing without nuts, or hands in the case of some players, it's not surprising however.

Posted by: JesusFreakKaren | October 1, 2009 10:52 PM | Report abuse

What annoyed me about B'More fans

was how quickly they seemed to 'flock' to the whole "Raven" symbol and their weird colors and lame logo, etc.

It was like, it didn't ever seem genuine, because it COULDN'T have been. If we got Cleveland tomorrow, who would be at the stadium dressed in their brown shades and dog masks?

B'More fans would, that's who.

I really found it disingenuous and lame.

And then, Ray Lewis goes all 'Blood Crazy' after in Atlanta. They're just weird. They win more games, but still weird.

Why aren't they the crows?

And all those years with Billick? He's like Marty Shottenheimer Light.

Whatever, I'd rather lose with the Redskins than try to jump on THAT bandwagon. And that's probably what will happen.

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 1, 2009 11:06 PM | Report abuse

"Hey, Ho" "Talk to my nuts."

Hey, it's better than "Hail to the Redskins"

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 1, 2009 11:09 PM | Report abuse

would zorn be better if he were just the offensive coordinator. has a coach ever been demoted would it even work. I vote for Joe Bugel

Posted by: Rvf0509 | October 1, 2009 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Caps rule!!! 4-1 !! 2 goals by Ovie!! What a night!

Posted by: RedCherokee | October 2, 2009 12:30 AM | Report abuse

rickyroge, how can any serious analysis of the Skins problem neglect to mention the atrocious defense? The offense is crappy but this team's identity is DEFENSE. Much like the Steelers, whose offense is nothing to brag about.

Skins defense #4 last year, #17 this year after Lions & Rams.

The Lions entered the game ranked No. 29 in the NFL on third-down conversions; in one half against the Redskins, they converted 9 of 12 attempts.

DEAD LAST in the NFL in third-down-conversion defense.

DEAD LAST.

Posted by: Alan4 | October 2, 2009 12:39 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Copious1 | October 2, 2009 12:48 AM | Report abuse

I must say it's a sad day when RI degrades into a "talk to my hand or my nuts" conversation. Considering how the 'Skins are playing without nuts, or hands in the case of some players, it's not surprising however.

Posted by: JesusFreakKaren | October 1, 2009 10:52 PM |

I hear what you're saying, but actually we're not degrading into this light-hearted repartee (which is sort of teen-age guy talk) but rising up to it from our Sunday afternoon low. We're shaking off the blues, looking around at our fellow fans and saying "Hey, buddy, it's almost Sunday" in our own peculiar way.

We have hope because Sunday is the day when we will prove to the world that the worst team in the NFL is not the Redskins, but the Tampa Bay Bugs. At least, that's my call. My friend, Mr. Brownwood, will be along shortly to talk to my nuts (and all the other nuts who post here) and explain why this Sunday will be worse than last Sunday.

By the way, is having your nuts talked to a good thing? I need to ask RedDMV and scamp why they like that. And, is it the same when you talk to your own nuts?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 2, 2009 5:48 AM | Report abuse

Some say one should not pick on small children however;
The Redskins practice was delayed on Wednesday for nearly two hours. When on his way from the locker room, one of the players happened to look down and noticed a suspicious-looking, unknown white powdery substance on the practice field. Jim Zorn immediately suspended practice while the FBI was called in to investigate. After a complete field analysis, the FBI determined that the white substance unknown to the players was the goal line. Practice was resumed when the FBI decided the team would not be likely to encounter the substance again.

Posted by: KBlit | October 2, 2009 6:47 AM | Report abuse

Once, twice, three times committed... I wish Zorn would knock off all of these 70's songs references... Really, how did he make the guys committed? When they walked off of the field on Sunday they were hanging their heads and slumping their shoulders. So, how did Zorn get them to commit? Did he stand on the sidelines making them run drills again and again yelling, "Do you want to win, or do you just want to run sprints?" Did he keep them in the film room to midnight each night? I mean, how did he get this bunch of uncommitted guys to suddenly become committed? Did he "stay medium" them into submission? This guy is all sound bites and politico-speak. When someone tells me they have induced change, I want to see evidence that there was a change in tactics made to induce that change. I don't see it. I guarantee the defense will play better in Tampa Bay because Blache made a change in tactics. He benched Horton and took the blame for the defense's miseries. Zorn didn't deviate at all. "Stay medium" guys. That strategy has worked so well this far...

Posted by: RedSkinHead | October 2, 2009 6:57 AM | Report abuse

wow... just...wow

When I glanced at this title I saw:

ZORN BURNED IN EFFIGY

....wow.

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 2, 2009 7:34 AM | Report abuse

It took a loss to the lions for these guys to practice hard??? Is that what this article means??? Wow, heartless, desperate, and soon to be unemployed. They should've been working hard not to lose to begin with.

Posted by: Burrasta1 | October 2, 2009 7:34 AM | Report abuse

details?! it's about details?!

Here's a detail: You guys are sucking.

Posted by: DikShuttle | October 2, 2009 7:50 AM | Report abuse

SIX FLAGS TEAMS WITH REDSKINS TO OFFER OCTOBER FRIGHT FEST PROMOTION

In a clever cross-marketing initiative designed to celebrate the Halloween season throughout the month of October, the Washington Redskins are teaming up with the Washington area Six Flags amusement park franchise to offer a month-long Fright Fest for Washington area football fans, friends and families.

Everyone attending the Redskin home games at FEDEX Field this October will be invited to enter the spirit of the Halloween season by shouting out loud, rousing and offensive BOOS and catcalls every time a Redskin player makes another boneheaded play. The most obnoxious fans will then be given an opportunity to text and tweet their sentiments to selected members of the Washington inactive player bench and practice squads – and earn free tickets to the nearby Six Flags amusement park to enjoy the park’s ongoing Fright Fest celebration.

The fun begins on October 4 when the Washington Redskins host the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in a battle for burial in the graveyard of the National Football League standings.

In keeping with the spirit of the season, the Redskins will dress several players in Halloween-themed costumes, including a dim candlelit pumpkin head of a quarterback (Jack O’Lantern Campbell), several zombies awkwardly shuffling their way through the final years of their contracts, a mere skeleton of a functional offensive line, and a defensive secondary that is said to be even more porous and wispy than the Ghostly Trio. Also scheduled to appear (subject to availability) are Invisible Man Clinton Portis and Big Blobby Albert Haynesworth.

Posted by: Vic1 | October 2, 2009 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Zorn said Wednesday he feels the team's ground game -- ranked No. 24 in the league -- has been successful thus far. He says the game plan for the Bucs will again call for the Redskins "to run the ball and mix it up."

You don't need any more proof that Zorn is completely delusional. How exactly has our run game been successful? If getting stoned on 4th and 1 twice by the goal line is successful than we are overachieving.

Posted by: dwninit71 | October 2, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Hey Barno1 - Tony Dungy is even saying the Redskins have an organizational problem. But there is no way Tony Dungy knows more about football than you; right Barno1?

BTW - Organizational means the entire organization, which starts at the very tippy top, as in the owner, Daniel Dysfunctional Synder.

Posted by: SkinsKen | October 1, 2009 2:43 PM


hahahahhahahahahahahahaha. post of the year.

take that barno.

Hey SkinsKen, ask barno about Terps football or basketball. He'll tell you everything is PERFECT in Fridge's and Gary's world, and that both coaches are Gods among men.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | October 1, 2009 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Anything BUT the post of the year. Pointing to others who agree with you as proof that the other side is wrong is the oldest and lamest form of trying to prove a point. Intelligent people can disagree, that's a fact.

I could point to Troy Aikman who believes just as I do that Jason Campbell is on the verge of becoming a star QB. Does that mean I am right about Campbell and all those who think he will never be a star are wrong? Of course not.

Yahoo! Sports lists Dan Snyder as one of the top 10 owners in the NFL, as do I, does that make me right and all those that think he's not a top 10 owner wrong? Of course not.

Bottom line is Poop is an infant who doesn't know any better, so I tend to give him a pass. But SkinsKen, you've got to come up with something more than the lame "Tony Dungy agrees with me, therefore you are wrong" defense of your argument. That's just intellectually lazy.

Posted by: Barno1 | October 2, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

How can Snyder not know after 10 years his investment on the field is not working. Could it be because that same investment has made him millions of dollars off of the field? Doesn't making money ease his pain?

What I don't understand is with all the tradition , glory , and a plethora of outstanding and knowledgable players why he has not tapped into any of them to get insight on how to assemble a team and run an organization from a football standpoint.

It just doesn't make any sense

Posted by: TheBeatDontStop | October 2, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

If Stephon Heyer is getting crushed in every game, how come we have not looked at anyone else to bring in, especially if we have cap room. I really dont think we need Alridge, Mason, Rock, Betts and Portis for RB depth.

I hate to say it, but it was pointed out over the summer, maybe they dont build on the OL, cuz they dont want JC to succeed...would seem crazy to me, but Snyder is Snyder.

Posted by: mhartz1 | October 1, 2009 9:42 AM |

Hey, if we hadn't blown our 2nd rounder on Jason Taylor we could have picked massive RT Phil Loadholt. At 6'8", 350 lbs ain't no one crushing that dude. When I was looking at ESPN's tape of the Favre heroics I noticed this mountain next to him and I said "damn, didn't know the Alps was that close to Minn". I looked again and it turns out it was PLoad. LMAO!

Posted by: BlackBagOps | October 1, 2009 4:26 PM
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This is the real problem. Our OL picks were taken away by Jason Taylor, TJ Duckett, and Brandon Lloyd (3rd and 4th) none of which were on the team for more than 2 years.

Posted by: ProfessorWrightBSU | October 2, 2009 1:33 PM | Report abuse

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