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Zorn, Portis on the RB issue and other matters

Clinton Portis addressed his health and the Redskins' running back situation on ESPN980's "John Thompson Show" this afternoon and, as usual, Dan Steinberg was listening.

He has the whole report at DC SportsBog, but here's a recap. Portis said he doesn't find the situation at all awkward and thinks the ideal solution would be for him and Ladell Betts to supply a 1-2 punch.

"It don't put me in an awkward situation at all," Portis said, when asked about Betts's breakout week, "Because I think I'll put myself up against anybody in the NFL [on] any day of the week. I think Ladell is a great guy, I think he's a great player, I think he's a great teammate for what he gives on the field. You never hear anything from him, he just goes out and [plays] hard and gives you everything he's got, so he deserves an opportunity. But at the same time, I don't think that takes away because he's playing good. I mean, we've been both capable of making plays. I think to be able to use us together would be even better. You know, I'm not a selfish guy, I'm not being selfish---oh, give me the ball, give me the ball, give me the ball. If Ladell is gonna help us win, it don't matter to me man, I'm all for it. But as far as me losing my starting position, I doubt that. ..."
"I think we're a great 1-2 combination. I mean, I've been saying that for years. The only thing about it, we haven't seen us as a 1-2 combination. It's either been me or him. I think they could use us both together."

Earlier in the day, Redskins Coach Jim Zorn talked about a number of things, including the whole Portis practice situation. As usual, Steinberg has the full report, but here's an excerpt:

"Well, I've been here a year and a half, and the things that I've been frustrated with is just that Clinton's been injured a bunch and hasn't been able to practice," Zorn said. "And for me, practice helps a guy, and Clinton's been held back because of the lack of being able to practice. So that's the only thing I see right now that is frustrating for all of us. And yet last week, [before] the game that he got his concussion, he did practice all week. But it was one of the first weeks he had done that..."

By Cindy Boren  |  November 17, 2009; 4:44 PM ET
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Me thinks everyone has been waiting for CP and Betts to be a 1-2 punch. Why it hasn't happened before would be interesting to know. Most of us have an idea...

Once CP is healthy, lets see this two headed monster.

Posted by: Curzon417 | November 17, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Also, time to hold all players to the same standard, no practice, no play.

And while were at it, how about we play the best players on the roster, not the most expensive ones.


Posted by: Curzon417 | November 17, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: kreitmaster | November 17, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse

if only Portis' legs could run as well and as fast as his mouth there wouldn't be any discussion about this would there?

legs = done
mouth = still going strong
contract = priceless

Posted by: greatteamdan | November 17, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Dudes, that was Redskins football on Sunday. "What's that? You tied with us? Welcome to the 4th quarter m!@#%kers."

I really, really enjoyed watching them run the ball down Denver's throat. A very efficient, clock-eating, dominating performance.

And while I agree Orton is better than Simms, I didn't see Denver ripping off 5+ yard runs on the defense. And it seemed that they'd fixed the problems in the secondary, with the exception of Moore biting on one deep move.

All in all, a very satisfying win.

F Dallas! After the game behind SECT 110 we started up "We Want Dallas", just for old times' sake.

As for coaching, it would seem that Sherm squared > Zorn

Posted by: dpc2003 | November 17, 2009 5:16 PM | Report abuse

This is all interesting, but its also all academic. Portis is right, its only been one or the other of them ... and that was because of injury ... which is where things are right now.

A concussion with an 8-day blur is real serious. The guy is barely 30 (is he 30 yet?) and he's got a lot of life left in him. His pockets are well straightened and his bankroll SHOULD be able to keep him going into whatever comes next, including a retired life of luxury. Probably tough to keep that in perspective when the alternative is the big lights, fame, and glory of being a lead RB in the NFL, but bright lights and loud noises didn't work so well for Trent Green after his concussion. Brains are serious things.

Posted by: dcsween | November 17, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Portis should sit out until December (3 games) at the earliest. That was quite a shot he took, and it's his second concussion.

As long as Betts keeps delivering like he has been for the last 6 quarters, he should continue to be the feature back. If we're out of the hunt by early December, why risk Portis at all?

What is so complicated about this?

Posted by: edvar | November 17, 2009 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Oh yeah...F DALLAS!

Posted by: edvar | November 17, 2009 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Personally, I would like Leslie Frazier from the Vikings but no way is Snyder going to hire a coach again who does not have head coaching experience.

Posted by: Lisa_R | November 17, 2009 4:51 PM

I suspect that he could still figure out that the best new coaches have been coordinators first, rather than re-built former head coaches (see Fassel).

Posted by: dcsween | November 17, 2009 5:23 PM | Report abuse

to repeat ... blah blah blah Leslie Frazer blah blah blah Jim Fassel blah blah blah F DALLAS!

Posted by: dcsween | November 17, 2009 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Portis still has a couple years before he's 30. Isn't he 28?

But he also came into the league at 20. So he's probably got the wear of a 30 year old. Especially running behind the lines he's had here.

Posted by: dfbovey | November 17, 2009 5:26 PM | Report abuse

"but bright lights and loud noises didn't work so well for Trent Green after his concussion"

Good point sween. I read an article a while back about the lingering effects of multiple concussions.

Al Toon had to retire after 9 concussions in 8 years. Of course, that was playing on the old "fuzzy concrete" artifical turf they used to use.

Toon was forced to sit in dark rooms for days at a time, due to intense migranes.

Also, he had a hard time distinguishing the doorbell from the phone.....truth.

Posted by: ksquare | November 17, 2009 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Forgot......F Dallas.....and panties!

Posted by: ksquare | November 17, 2009 5:28 PM | Report abuse

I just saw some TV with John Mackey (the guy for whom the Top College Tight End is named after) and his wife. The guy suffers from some serious brain injury ... and the NFLPA had denied him benefit because there was supposedly no connection between brain injuries and football or something like that. The guy is not that old.

Posted by: dcsween | November 17, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Another guy is Ted Johnson, former MLB for the Pats. He quit the game due to the lingering effects of a concussion.

Johnson indicated that Belichooch was not too sympathetic to head injuries and made it clear: play or lose your job.

Johnson and some other players have now pledged the brains to science, after death, so that the concussions can be studied more in depth.

Posted by: ksquare | November 17, 2009 5:41 PM | Report abuse

FF Update

SPLATTTTTTT. Road Kill. Carnage.

That's what you were if you were either at the top of the Hamsters league or at the top of the AFC West.

League leader Suzanne saw her Trippin' Billies (7-3) crumble in Sunday Night at the hands of Tom Brady and the Kookaid Kids (3-7), 87-67.

Tied for the league lead with the Billies, my Cal Salmon (7-3) team laid an egg. While the Realskins (6-4) weren't very good either, they got a key win to pull within a game of first. In Realskins 74-66 win, all but one of his players had between 7 and 11 points.

Zornskins (6-4), all alone in 3rd place and just one game behind the leaders going into the weekend, completed the trio of roadkill. His 3 game win streak was snapped by Dealer (5-5) who snapped his 4 game losing streak in the 72-68 win. Dealer had no kicker or defense playing this week (and how hard is it to pick up a kicker?), but his defense still was better than Zornskins Falcon's, who had -2 points.

The F Bombers (5-5) dominated the Stweengs (4-6), behind big games from Steven Jackson, Jamaal Charles and Reggie Wayne. 118-50 was the final. Of note, Stweengs bench had a stunning 82 points.

Copro (6-4), the leagues highest scoring team, looked vulnerable late into Sunday afternoon, even with 37 from Chris Johnson. But when Kurt Warner played well late and then Randy Moss cleaned up on Sunday night, a close match turned into a blowout. Alpa Chino (3-7) was simply overmatched, 105-81.

E Funk (6-4) rode 25 points from Peyton to a 74-52 win over Butz (2-8). The loss likely eliminated Butz from a shot at the playoffs.

With 6 playoff slots, however, most teams are still very much alive, with this week's collapse of the league leaders opening the door. 8 teams are within 2 games of the lead. The Billies and Cal Salmon still lead with 7-3 records. At 6-4, Zornskins, CoPro, Realskins and E Funk are close behind. The group at 5-5 includes the F Bombers and Dealer. At 4-6, Stweengs needs to win 2 of 3 to have shot, while 3 straight wins to close the regular season likely gets him into the playoffs.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 17, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Over in the Peeps league, sanity prevailed for the most part.

The biggest upset came in a battle of league leaders, with the Jackalopes (7-3) win over the high scoring Fins (6-4). Leading the Jackalopes to the 85-68 win was Steven Jackson, whose 24 points neutralized another big game from Adrian Peterson.

In another key matchup, Tampa (6-4) crushed the Zombie Hord (5-5). Sidney Rice's 24 and Frank Gore's 19 led Tampa in the 110-51 victory.

The two other league leaders both won, with the Buffaloes (7-3) topping the Skulls (3-7). Randy Moss led the 113-78 win.

My Futaleufu Swimmers (7-3) squad topped the Shaft (4-6), with Chris Johnson's 37 points leading the way, 133-54.

In a game with 2 teams fighting to get to the playoffs, Future Winners (5-5) topped the Steers (4-6). The game was low scoring, as many good players had shockingly poor games. Aaron Rodgers led the Winners in the 55-38 win.

The highest scoring game took place between two teams at the bottom of the the tightly packed league, with 4-12 (4-6) topping Nate (3-7) with a 116-99 victory. 4-12 had 4 players with over 20 points, led by Brandon Marshall's 28. It was enough to hold off the the Sunday night rally by Nate's trio of Manning, Wayne and Addai, who combined for 69 points.

With 3 games left in the 13 game season, the trio at the top includes the Futaleufu Swimmers, the Buffaloes and the Jackalopes, all at 7-3. Closely behind are the Florida duo, the Fins and Tampa's at 6-4. With 6 playoff slots, the teams at 5-5, Future and the Zombie Hord, are in the think of the playoff race, with the 4-6 teams, Steers, the Shaft and 4-12, just one game out of a playoff slot. Nate and the Skulls, both at 3-7, have a chance to make the playoffs, if they can win out.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 17, 2009 5:47 PM | Report abuse

I'd advocated for a Portis to be the lead back 75% of games and for Betts to be the lead back 25% of games specifically to deal with the wear and tear of a season and to keep Portis stronger for December.

The concussion makes it a bit of a moot point, since Portis is out until the docs say so. A concussion is always serious stuff and nothing to mess with.

Still, can't help but wonder if Portis might have been able to practice more and be more effective if he had a few weeks where he was only touching the ball 5 times or so. Given what we saw on Sunday, pretty easy to see how the idea of dividing up games for the lead RB would have helped this team.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 17, 2009 5:55 PM | Report abuse

I just saw some TV with John Mackey (the guy for whom the Top College Tight End is named after) and his wife. The guy suffers from some serious brain injury ... and the NFLPA had denied him benefit because there was supposedly no connection between brain injuries and football or something like that. The guy is not that old.

Opens the NFL up to massive, and I mean massive liability and they know it ... all the way to the pop warner league level where they 'emulate' pro football equipment like helmets.

Posted by: periculum | November 17, 2009 5:56 PM | Report abuse

I think Zorn has finally gotten his way with the p-brained owner and henchman. Portis plays if he practices. If he doesn't practice he doesn't play. If they stick to that ... and he proves he can do the job in practice then okay ... otherwise ...

Posted by: periculum | November 17, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Clinton we are saving you for the playoffs Buddy.
So we will just keep running Ladell, until that happens.

So just kickback until then,,,,OK

Posted by: dashriprock | November 17, 2009 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Here we go with the ol' CP again... we stuck with the run more in this game because we were getting more than 1 yd a pop...I dont know about everyone else but with L and Rock running the ball there were an awful lot of 3rd and 3s and 2nd and shorts...when clinton is in the game he just doesn't pick up the correct yardage to help our qb...thats why we had to throw more when CP was in the game...we were committed to the run in the Denver game because HELLO!!! IT WAS WORKING!!

Posted by: kickass10101 | November 17, 2009 6:10 PM | Report abuse


This just makes me wonder even more if we're not as well suited to the Wildcat as any other team in the league. ARE a 6'5" QB, Clinton, Rock, Ladell, Mason. If Miami can pull it off with their people... yeah I know, if a pig had wings.

Then again it seems more suited to our talent than whatever it is we've been running the last year and a half.

Posted by: Redskinrex | November 17, 2009 6:14 PM | Report abuse

I would agree with Zorn's decision to get Portis back in there if we were 6-3, but we're 3-6 and climbing back from the bottom...let Portis and Carwright carry the load...

Posted by: rickyroge | November 17, 2009 6:36 PM | Report abuse

The wildcat makes no sense for most teams.

It works in Miami is because they have dedicated a huge amount of time to studying it and making sure it fits their players ...

and ...

most teams that play against Miami are seeing a wildcat offense for the first time.

Miami practices the wildcat every week for the last 2 years. Most teams that play Miami prepare for it for one week.

I liken it to a guy facing a left handed boxer for the first time. The lefty may not be that great, but the other guy has never seen anything quite like it, so it takes a while to adapt.

Should the Skins go wildcat? No.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 17, 2009 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Would Portis start for the:



Those teams have two or three backs...they don't need no stinking Portis

Posted by: rickyroge | November 17, 2009 6:43 PM | Report abuse


Test your Skins trivia...fill in the blanks of the missing RB tandem...

Example: John Riggins Joe Washington

Bobby Mitchell and_______

Earnest Byner and _________

Reggie Brooks and ___________

Stephen Davis and _____________

Posted by: rickyroge | November 17, 2009 6:47 PM | Report abuse

beep beep

Posted by: Curzon417 | November 17, 2009 6:53 PM | Report abuse


Test your Skins trivia...fill in the blanks of the missing RB tandem...

Example: John Riggins Joe Washington

Bobby Mitchell and_______ larry brown

Earnest Byner and _______ gerald riggs and ricky ervins

Reggie Brooks and _______ bmitch, ricky, ervins, earnst byner

Stephen Davis and _______ terry allen (sd48) was originally a fullback)

Posted by: jimmy_the_crickett | November 18, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse

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