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Zorn says Portis 'very doubtful' to play

Coach Jim Zorn stopped short of ruling Clinton Portis out for Sunday's game at Dallas, but he said the Redskins' star running back is "very doubtful" to play.

"But I don't want to count him out," Zorn said Wednesday after practice.

Portis wasn't present at practice and is at risk of missing his second game since suffering a concussion - the second of his career -- on Nov. 8 in Atlanta.

Zorn said Portis worked out early Wednesday morning -- to get "a little sweat going," Zorn said -- and Portis experienced some blurriness. Portis attended the weekly team meeting but left Redskins Park to visit a Washington doctor and missed the running backs' position meeting.

Zorn laid out a timeline that makes it seem very doubtful Portis will be ready for action against the Cowboys. Even if he stops experiencing symptoms, coaches want to wait a full 24 hours and retest him before allowing him to practice. "I would be very cautious," even after Portis received medical clearance to play, Zorn said.

Zorn said he definitely wants Portis to take part in practice before Sunday's game.
"Him not practicing is also very key for me because I want to see him go," Zorn said.

The team began installing its gameplan Wednesday for this weekend's Dallas game without a couple of other key players.

Albert Haynesworth is nursing an ankle sprain he suffered in Sunday's win against the Broncos. Zorn said he probably wouldn't know whether the defensive tackle could play against the Cowboys until this weekend.

"He will work as hard as he possibly can to get to this game and to play 100 percent in it," Zorn said.

Tight end Chris Cooley also wasn't present. He was at the facility Wednesday, visiting with coaches and teammates. Cooley will visit with a doctor next Monday.

Cornerback Carlos Rogers, who was benched after one series against the Broncos, practiced and saw plenty of time with the starters Wednesday. But coaches say Fred Smoot, Justin Tryon and even safety Lendy Holmes also spent time at corner with the ones.

Defensive backs coach Jerry Gray says no decision has been made about whether Rogers will start in Dallas but coaches were pleased with Rogers effort and attitude at practice. Zorn said Rogers "responded like a real professional."

"He didn't skip a beat. He wasn't pouting at all," Zorn said.

As for Portis, coaches will see how he feels Thursday. If Zorn sticks to his timeline, it's unlikely that Portis will be a gametime decision.

Receiver Santana Moss is as close to Portis as anyone in the locker room, and he echoes what coaches keep saying: There's no sense in rushing Portis back from such a serious injury.

"To me, when you look at him, he's the same," said Moss. "But when it comes down to what he dealt with two weeks ago, you just know that he's part of the team, we'll take our time with it and not take it for granted. When he's ready, I think he'll be all right."

By Rick Maese  |  November 18, 2009; 3:43 PM ET
 
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First......and F DALLAS!

Posted by: dcwun | November 18, 2009 3:55 PM | Report abuse

RedSkinHead

You really just need to come out and say you don't like JC. To sit there and pick apart and look for negative things to say when we win and he completed over half his passes. You really just need to let it go man.

Posted by: jm220 | November 18, 2009 3:39 PM
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One game does not a pro-bowl QB make, quoth RedSkinHead.

As for not liking him, I don't know the guy. I don't think he is a great quarterback but that has nothing to do with who he is as a person. He has some flaws, that I think, can be minimized but will occasionally be exposed.

I remember watching Aaron Brooks play a few years ago thinking this guy was the greatest thing since sliced bread, but then teams learned how to play him, learned he couldn't handle man coverage very well because of his accuracy, and then he faded away. Aaron Brooks = Jason Campbell

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 18, 2009 3:53 PM

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 18, 2009 3:55 PM | Report abuse

oh yeah - right - F Dallas

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | November 18, 2009 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Carlos has graduated from "F Washington" mode to "F Washington, but I'm in a contract year" mode.

Expect him to play well this week.

Posted by: psps23 | November 18, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

He didn't skip a beat. He wasn't pouting at all

So we're all in agreement that he's not a 12 year old girl...good...can he please start to act like a Professional Cornerback??

JZ's lack of decision making again on display....so CP comes in to work out, and gets blurriness, but this clown can't make a decision to save his life...

Portis will not play this sunday...there, is it that hard to say??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 18, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Don't play him this week. Dollar Bill health is more important than the game.

Posted by: jm220 | November 18, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

psp, would it be too much to ask for him to play well every week??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 18, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

weak.....sauce?

Posted by: superpaqman | November 18, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

JZ's lack of decision making again on display....so CP comes in to work out, and gets blurriness, but this clown can't make a decision to save his life...
Portis will not play this sunday...there, is it that hard to say??
Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 18, 2009 3:59 PM

Maybe he’s pulling a Belicheat…..just trying to give the cowboys more to think about/plan for……

Posted by: dlhaze1 | November 18, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

IMO, Levi Jones is now the best lineman on our roster. I think the only knock on him is past injuries, and I think the only reason the Bengals let him go was contract size with missing games, just the same as the Skins letting Shawn Springs go. If he stays healty, is should be a very nice pickup. Better than the Deangelo mid season pickup last year, but we’ll see.

Posted by: dlhaze1

I think you're pretty much right on this. Jones was highly paid, injured too often and from what I recall, too inconsistent. Not sure if there was an attitude issue with him or not. Talent-wise, he's up there.

So, there are some 'ifs' that come with Jones.

What made no sense to me was that the front office didn't talk seriously to this guy until late October after Samuels went down. The guy can play and its not like we were looking very good at RT.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 18, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

I think everyone in the football world except for zorn knows that CP is not playing this Sunday.

Posted by: Curzon417 | November 18, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Portis will not play this sunday...there, is it that hard to say??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 18, 2009 3:59 PM

No, but it's the wrong thing to say. Zorn is trying to confuse the hell out of Dallas. They're down there practicing for Portis. They see Betts on Sunday and they won't know what to do.

They're the Cobwoys, and they're easily confused. "Where's Portis? Are we playing the right team? Is today Sunday?" That confusion is probably good for two TD's.

Posted by: League-Source | November 18, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

dl, they did better without him, so how does that work??

with everything that happened with westbrook in philly, and the talk on PFT last night was regarding the 'end' of his career from this...I mean, how hard is it to say, he's not playing this year...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 18, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

I remember watching Aaron Brooks play a few years ago thinking this guy was the greatest thing since sliced bread, but then teams learned how to play him, learned he couldn't handle man coverage very well because of his accuracy, and then he faded away. Aaron Brooks = Jason Campbell

Posted by: RedSkinHead

You keep referring to his accuracy. I didn't know having a completion % in the mid 60s was considered inaccurate. Yes he misses a few but so does every other QB.

Posted by: dcwun | November 18, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

JZ's lack of decision making again on display....so CP comes in to work out, and gets blurriness, but this clown can't make a decision to save his life...
Portis will not play this sunday...there, is it that hard to say??
Posted by: BeantownGreg1

seriously, exactly!!!

Portis works out, which makes some sense as long as there isn't too much stress and obviously no contact. But if he's got blurry vision -- I'm no doc, but even I can figure that one out.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 18, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Aaron Brooks was a career 56%, 76.5 QB rating passer. He, unlike Campbell, actually was inaccurate and had trouble reading defenses. But he was athletic, had a gun, and could make big plays when needed. He's almost the exact opposite of Campbell.

Campbell, on the other hand, is a game manager. Always has been, always will be. He converts more first downs than any QB in the league, he moves the chains, when he's not mindf*cked into thinking he needs to "make a play" he doesn't turn the ball over, and he makes very good decisions with the ball, despite what two isolated snapshots per game make you think. A team with the running game like the Titans or Carolina would thrive with Campbell under center. He can get you up and down the field, but isn't going to punch it in alone.

Posted by: psps23 | November 18, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

"psp, would it be too much to ask for him to play well every week??

Posted by: BeantownGreg1"

No, it wouldn't, but I'll take what I can get.

Posted by: psps23 | November 18, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

repost
I'm not really interested in shanny coming here...if the Zorn/Lewis combo can get this thing right, then go with what you know, dance with who you brung...

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 18, 2009 3:44 PM

You mean into next season? I don't see Zorn staying regardless. Now if all the big names are gone do they stay in house with Lewis, Danny Smith or Jerry Gray? If the Lewis/Zorn combo works for this season I wouldn't be shocked to see Zorn go and Lewis become the HC.

Otherwise they clean house - Leslie Frazier was spoken highly of last go round, as was the former D-coordinator at Indy, Maybe Billick?

Posted by: skinswest | November 18, 2009 3:59 PM

Posted by: skinswest | November 18, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

dl, they did better without him, so how does that work??
with everything that happened with westbrook in philly, and the talk on PFT last night was regarding the 'end' of his career from this...I mean, how hard is it to say, he's not playing this year...
Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | November 18, 2009 4:05 PM

It’s not hard to say, but if doesn’t say for sure, Dallas can’t rule him out either and has to plan for him. Coaches do this all the time…. He’s probably met with Portis and told him he’s not playing, but wants to F with the Cowboys a little…..

Posted by: dlhaze1 | November 18, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Is there even a point in saying the term "very doubtful"...?

With that fatazz sitting out again, I like the chances of us having a good day on the ground, and therefore a better chance at winning the game against F Dallas...

Posted by: mattylight | November 18, 2009 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Portis is eeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhh a little Meh on playing

Posted by: alex35332 | November 18, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

If you want to know the long term consequences of a concussion, just look at the decision making abilities of Jim Zorn.

Posted by: JohnWWW | November 18, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

No way any team doctor is going to clear Portis to play until he's a 100% healthy for at least a week and has practiced with out issues. With the focus on concussions and then Westbrook suffering a 2nd one after sitting out 3 weeks, I think its a given the Portis will miss at least the Dallas game. I would be very surprised if Portis was even back by the Philly game, maybe New Orleans. His long-term health should be the biggest concern of the franchise, not whether he can play in an extra game or two this season.

Posted by: wizfan89 | November 18, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

If you want to know the long term consequences of a concussion, just look at the decision making abilities of Jim Zorn.

Posted by: JohnWWW | November 18, 2009 4:18 PM |
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LOL

Post o' the day.

Posted by: MrRedskin21 | November 18, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

beep

Posted by: Curzon417 | November 18, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

If you never practice - you will suck in pro football - he used to be ok - now he sucks.

Posted by: lylewimbledon | November 18, 2009 4:31 PM | Report abuse

HC openings will abound in the offseason. Betting there might be some surprises, too. Its possible all 4 NFC East coaches are gone this offseason. It wouldn't surprise me if reid is burnt out, if coughlin finally takes the prune juice so he can go to the bathroom and jerruh finally gets tired of wade. We all know Zorn is gone.

Some others not totally comfortable at this moment include Norv, John Fox, Mike McCarthy, Jim Mora (the putz), Jack Del Rio and Lovie Smith. Wouldn't totally shock me if Belichick retired. Not many HC stay than 10 years in a job, even if successful.

Buffalo, Cle, Oak are all likely to be getting a new HC.

Not saying all, or even most of the HC jobs I mentioned will open up, but seems a lot of teams/coaches might turn the page.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | November 18, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Everyone needs to chill on the Zorn/Portis playing decision..... what was it 2 or 3 weeks ago when Pittsburgh went into Denver and Ryan Clark was in the play vs not playing situation. Every analyst commenting on the situation said that everybody in football knew Clark was NOT going to play. Yet, Tomlin did not declare Clark out until the last possible minute. They said it was something along the lines of not letting Denver know exactly what they were in store for so that they had to prepare for everything....

Fast forward to this week. I'm pretty sure Zorn knows damn well enough that CP wont be playing. (Not sure if he knows anything else about the Skins though, but thats another topic all together...) He is not going to put someone's health/career in danger.

Think of it like this: If Zorn comes out and says CP is out this week, Dallas has one less thing to prepare for. But if Zorn doesn't, maybe Dallas has to put some effort into being ready for him just in case he does play. It makes perfect sense. JZ is Not showing his hand. Keeps Dallas guessing. Kudos to that....


oh and one more thing, F DALLAS

Posted by: sweetsweetlou | November 18, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Sure wish that they could unload Portis and get rid of his cap hit also! Am I asking to much? BTW FIRE VINNY! Also Dallas SUCKS!!!

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | November 18, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Worst trade ever, Champ for Clinton.

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet | November 18, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Worst trade ever, Champ for Clinton.

Posted by: vexed50verizonnet

Really? How so?

Posted by: dcwun | November 18, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

I just thought about Dallas for 30 seconds and got angry.

Posted by: ArtMonkToTheSticks | November 18, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

That play that Devin Thomas made to set up Betts game winning TD - that play was given up by Champ Bailey. Champ hasn't been a shut down corner in Denver. Teams throw on him all the time. Both teams got what they wanted from the Portis-Bailey trade. It was a pretty equal trade (except for the 2nd round pick)

Posted by: coparker5 | November 18, 2009 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Aaron Brooks was a career 56%, 76.5 QB rating passer. He, unlike Campbell, actually was inaccurate and had trouble reading defenses. But he was athletic, had a gun, and could make big plays when needed. He's almost the exact opposite of Campbell.

Campbell, on the other hand, is a game manager. Always has been, always will be. He converts more first downs than any QB in the league, he moves the chains, when he's not mindf*cked into thinking he needs to "make a play" he doesn't turn the ball over, and he makes very good decisions with the ball, despite what two isolated snapshots per game make you think. A team with the running game like the Titans or Carolina would thrive with Campbell under center. He can get you up and down the field, but isn't going to punch it in alone.

Posted by: psps23 | November 18, 2009 4:07 PM
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You seem to remember only Brooks' later years. When he started he was tearing it up. If you looked at his stats for his first three years in the league you would see that he and Campbell are very similar. When Campbell's career is over, I bet his stats are much similar to Brooks.

Game manager? Ha! You call wasted time outs and passes short of third down being a game manager? A game manager is someone who meticulously disects the defense while creeping his team down the field. With the exception of last week, that is not Campbell this year at all. Game mis-manager is more like it. I stand by my earlier comment: Jason Campbell = Aaron Brooks

Posted by: RedSkinHead | November 18, 2009 7:38 PM | Report abuse

simple....Snyder sit in your box and reap the benefits. Give Cowher total control and the $$$.

Posted by: kdowney3 | November 18, 2009 7:42 PM | Report abuse

does anyone notice that the list of potential coaches for the skins is shrinking ? i sure as you know what hope that zorn and vinny will not be back

Posted by: miked4 | November 18, 2009 7:54 PM | Report abuse

I just read the article on the supreme court not hearing the name change lawsuit. I'm a die hard skins fan, to the point of drunken fist fights with other east team fans. I've grown up with the name redskins meaning something more to me than a race of people. The skins are my church and Gibbs is my jesus. But, if Native Americans, even one feels that the term or name is offensive to them then it needs to be changed. If any group of people deserves anything from anyone it is the native Americans. It's beyond rediculous that it's completely acceptable to make billions off of a people who the majority of are way below the poverty line and 65% alcohollics (I don't know the exact stat but I know it's high). I do believe not too long ago the "N" word was completely acceptable, so denying it because someone waited to long to be offended shows that our legal system is not color blind.

Posted by: AnthonyMix | November 18, 2009 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Portis isn't playing because the Skins don't want him to play. This is an opportunity for the Redskins to sit Portis but the Redskins management doesn't want to say this publicly. Come on people out there, Portis is a tough guy! This is a plan. You heard it here.

Redskins management has a history with favorites and then... turns their backs on the one-time favorite, especially when the player's popularity drops. See La Var Arrington... examples of special treatment and then the sidelines.

Lastly, it is the team's fault for not running Portis correctly. They try to run him outside. The play takes too long to develop. He should have had plays between the tackles.

Posted by: Truth23 | November 18, 2009 11:43 PM | Report abuse

Portis was not at practice this week?! I'm shocked! Absolutely shocked! Okay not really.

Posted by: unclelonghair | November 19, 2009 7:31 AM | Report abuse

If Tortis is doubtful them I am hopeful. We might actually win.

Posted by: TRACIETHEDOLPHIN | November 19, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Think of it like this: If Zorn comes out and says CP is out this week, Dallas has one less thing to prepare for. But if Zorn doesn't, maybe Dallas has to put some effort into being ready for him just in case he does play. It makes perfect sense. JZ is Not showing his hand. Keeps Dallas guessing. Kudos to that....


oh and one more thing, F DALLAS

Posted by: sweetsweetlou | November 18, 2009 4:42 PM

One less thing to prepare for. What does a defensive coordinator have to prepare for as concerns Portis: Men, today we need to run the "let the out of shape prima-donna softly run into the back of his o-linemen" drill?! This brilliant misdirection is going to cost the Bovine Cartel defense upwards of 3 or 4 minutes of precious practice time.

Posted by: MColeman51 | November 19, 2009 2:40 PM | Report abuse

F Dallas! I hope Orakpo knocks Tony Homo down for the count.

anyway, concussion is a serious injury I think CP needs to think loooooong and hard on this (exhibit A: Brian Westbrook ).

Betts runs better this season because his well rested, has a better burst and vision right now plus Rock compliments him well.

F Dallas! Orakpo will have 2.5 sacks this Sunday.

Posted by: datruth21 | November 20, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

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