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Zorn: Team's Health 'Not to My Liking'

With just a couple of days left to prepare for their first preseason game against the Ravens in Baltimore, the Redskins are trying to figure which players belong on the field and which deserve a spot on the injured list.

On Monday, Redskins Coach Jim Zorn said the current state of the team's health is "not to my liking."

"We still have little nicks. The nicks are with some of the key guys," Zorn said. "I am talking about Devin Thomas, Santana [Moss]."

Moss and Thomas both attended practice without pads on Monday, and neither is a certainty for Thursday night's game. A third receiver, Malcolm Kelly, has also been slowed at times during camp, as coaches have been wary of overworking him and aggravating his hamstring. Both Kelly and Thomas are vying for the team's No. 2 receiver position, opposite Moss, and their progress in preseason games will be closely
monitored.

"They have to play in games," Zorn said Monday. "We're still trying to get Devin's hamstring up to speed, and we'll see how it goes. They need a lot of work."

Cornerback Carlos Rogers, who had been nursing a sore hamstring, was back in pads Monday morning, for the first time since the second day of camp, as was guard Randy Thomas, who has been hampered by a sore knee.

"He wants to be with his teammates," Zorn said of Randy Thomas. "We are trying to pull the reigns on him. We are trying to crack the whip on a few others. It is all custom-made when you are talking about rehabilitation."

On Sunday, Zorn had said that rookie cornerback Kevin Barnes was slowed by a sore knee, hurt in Saturday's scrimmage, and was questionable for Thursday's preseason opener. But Barnes was in pads Monday said following the afternoon's special team's practice that he'll go full-speed Tuesday morning.

"I can't waste any time not being out there playing," Barnes said. "So I'm definitely planning on being ready for Thursday."

At the morning practice, quarterback Colt Brennan spent some time getting stretched by a trainer. He explained that he was simply sore from a tough practice and weightlifting session the previous day.

"Nothing serious," Brennan said. "Just got real sore, just because kind of coming toward the end of the hump. At the tail end of it when you're still pushing through two-a-days the arm's going to get a little sore."

By Cindy Boren  |  August 10, 2009; 3:33 PM ET
 
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Comments

First!

Posted by: sjw1 | August 10, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Fuhrst

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 10, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Arrrgh! lol.

not first >:-|

yeh. not diggin' the injuries. At least we're not Philly.

Posted by: DikShuttle | August 10, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Somthingth!

Posted by: alex35332 | August 10, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

and second . . . we are in trouble. 6-10 this season. yikes. HAIL.

Posted by: sjw1 | August 10, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone else realize we could have had DeSean Jackson and Eddie Royal instead of these to injury prone workaholics

Posted by: hehateme | August 10, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

I'm a little sore. Got a few tweaks. But I'm going to be ready by Thursday night.

Planning to watch at Shuckers in Onancock, Va. Don't know whether it will be a Redskins bar or a Ravens bar.

But I'll be ready. Planning to be a starter and hoping to go all the way.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 10, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Prediction: Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly combine to produce less than ARE again this year

Posted by: hehateme | August 10, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Good piece about CRino, I'd like to see this guy get some first team reps, good stuff from Barnes as well....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 10, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

I'm hoping we win just enough to make playoffs this year - and keep JC and Zorn around. Trim more fat (especially if uncapped year). 1st round pick - RT, 2nd - C. Big FA pickup is best RG out there. Use the rest on LBs and playmakers. We could have a shot at a serious run next year.

Realistically, Im just hoping that we can keep those guys around so we don't have to rebuild AGAIN.

Posted by: Rypien11 | August 10, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Prediction: No, Jason it won't be "Snyderato" ravamping the OL in the draft next year. It will be another wunderkind coach that Snidely has a man-crush for.

Posted by: periculum | August 10, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone else realize we could have had DeSean Jackson and Eddie Royal instead of these to injury prone workaholics

Posted by: hehateme | August 10, 2009 3:47 PM

Yeah, there's some guy named Cork posts up here from time to time. Just like you he can always pick a winner after he knows who won.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 10, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Methinks the NFL would be better served extending training camp by a week, while significantly limiting the number of two-a-days (i.e. never allowing back-to-back two-a-days, put a maximum limit on the number allowed, etc.). Fatigue plays a major factor in most injuries. Seems like a number of these injuries could be avoided if you spread out the practice schedule a bit.

Posted by: psps23 | August 10, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

butt burgalar? Tracee needs to forward that one to Nyjer Morgan.

Posted by: periculum | August 10, 2009 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Theme from year to year...

could it be that our training staff, coaches, etc...just aren't up to par.

Posted by: carsonspence | August 10, 2009 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Methinks the NFL would be better served to bring back the old "cab squads" stashing players, while increasing the salary cap particularly since they plan on extending the season. Teams are going to need more players ... especially lineman I suspect.

Posted by: periculum | August 10, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, there's some guy named Cork posts up here from time to time. Just like you he can always pick a winner after he knows who won.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 10, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

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I agree. Let's all give Cerrato an "A" for effort. That's what he's paid for, after all.

Posted by: psps23 | August 10, 2009 3:55 PM | Report abuse

could it be that our training staff, coaches, etc...just aren't up to par.

Posted by: carsonspence

Why don't you give us your power ratings for the 32 teams in the league and tell us which are the best trainers and what you base your ratings on?

Posted by: talent_evaluator | August 10, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

could it be that our training staff, coaches, etc...just aren't up to par.

Posted by: carsonspence

I believe Snidely ascribes to the "trickle-down theory" of economics..

Posted by: frak | August 10, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

" A third receiver, Malcolm Kelly, has also been slowed at times during camp, as coaches have been wary of overworking him and aggravating his hamstring.

By JReid"

Malcom Kelly has only been slowed by the medical staff. He will also supplant DT11 for the #2 spot....

Rinehart will be fine @ RG. I envision RThomas will get a month's worth of rest in September....

Posted by: 4thFloor | August 10, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

What me worry? Who should be concerned becuase the FIFTH STRING right tackle finished up the scrimmage today?

Heyer..to Williams...to Bridges...to Scott BURLEY?...to Guard turned tackle Chad Rinehart...to utter despeation.

And yeah, Samulels gets his knee drained and everyoene xcept Dockery has been dinged....

I don't worry about the OL on AUG 8. I worry about QBs and RBs on August 13... when they get murdered behind a line that hasn't worked as a unit.

Posted by: TheCork | August 8, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

You people need to relax. Seriously. EVERY team in the NFL is having injury issues at this time of year. Year in, year out, there are more injuries in the first 10 days of training camp than at any other point in the 365 day calendar--that's a fact. And every year at this time, the fans with the shortest memories on the face of the earth--the Washington Redskins fan base--have nervous breakdowns about the implications of sore hamstrings and knees drained of fluids.

It's just comical reading these comments from the doomsday'ers. Unless Samuels, Dockery, or Thomas breaks a bone or tears a ligament before the opener in September, this O-line will be fine this year.

Stop the needless worrying folks.

Posted by: Barno1 | August 10, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

"Just like you he can always pick a winner after he knows who won."


You mean there is a better system?

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 10, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

all of you suck ape balls with y'all non-beep beepin' asses.

Posted by: RedDMV | August 10, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

peri

"...Teams are going to need more players ... especially lineman I suspect...."

I'd rather get rid of the practice squad, take the roster to 60 players, and allow a coach to dress all players for game day.

And as for offensive linemen, you will always need what you don't draft or develop.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 10, 2009 4:15 PM | Report abuse

You wanna know how to cure our Oline woes??

Sign Vick.

Posted by: p1funk | August 10, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Red, beep beep from the last post....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 10, 2009 4:22 PM | Report abuse

red

non-beep, non-beep

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 10, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

It's just comical reading these comments from the doomsday'ers. Unless Samuels, Dockery, or Thomas breaks a bone or tears a ligament before the opener in September, this O-line will be fine this year.

Stop the needless worrying folks.

Posted by: Barno1 | August 10, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse


That's right. All you fools worrying about the O-line.

It'll be fine...just like last year...

Posted by: p1funk | August 10, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

p1funk

You've been steady and consistent about signing Vick.

In twenty-five words or less, explain why.

You can complete your essay response below:

________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 10, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

It's nice to hear a positive snippet about Rhino from the CBS guy.

I also read a good snippet about Burley on CBS.com

Does Snyder have some kind of tentacle-like influence at CBS, or can I feel genuinely good about those assessments?

Posted by: p1funk | August 10, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

unless there's another "butt burglar"...

Posted by: pgugino | August 10, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

I'm not so worried about injuries because so far, we're not talking about season ending injuries. Most of these guys would be playing if it were the regular season. I do worry about those guys who are allegedly potential starters not getting the reps. At least half of offensive line play has got to be chemistry and team work. That half is not being worked on right now because of the injuries.

In Spanish Cerrato means, "Right tackles - we don't need no stinkin' right tackles."

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 10, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

"Does anyone else realize we could have had DeSean Jackson and Eddie Royal instead of these to injury prone workaholics"

Do you realize how tall those guys are and what we were looking for in a WCO receiver?

We already have a clone of those guys in Moss and he is way better than either.

Posted by: McMetal | August 10, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Barno, I'm not sure how you figure first ten days of training camp is when the preponderance of injuries occur. That is not even close to true, not serious injuries anyhow. I'm not in full panic mode, but this is not a good start by any measure. That said, the Eagles clearly have had a worse camp than us...

Posted by: Notorious_LMG | August 10, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Wow, moe and bean, thanks.

sort of like being told happy birthday five days later.

never understood that happy belated crap...

Posted by: RedDMV | August 10, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

We have enough issues here without Vick, we dont need freaking PETA and their loonies out picketing every game.

He has been out for 2 years, Vick is not a quick fix right now for anyone.

Posted by: gatorskinz2000 | August 10, 2009 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Interesting Skins depth chart -- I thought Bridges is a backup RG and Rinehart is a backup LG -- although the position battles will shake out after the four pre-season games are played...

Posted by: siris | August 10, 2009 4:31 PM | Report abuse

red, happy birthday too....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 10, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

I believe the Skins could put Randy Thomas on the PUP list; if his injuries keep him from playing...

Posted by: siris | August 10, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Moe,

It's true that I pulled an "Arlen Specter", and have gone 180 with my take on Vick.

In fact, not too long ago when they had a picture of the "Sign Vick" guy up on the blog, I put a bounty out on him for $10 to anyone out there at the camp that would coldcock him.

But here's the deal in 25 words:

Crappy injured Oline = Need QB to improvise/make plays on run = Vick

Vick throw to TE not WR. Skins = Good TEs, bum WRs.

Make sense?

Posted by: p1funk | August 10, 2009 4:35 PM | Report abuse

where's flound at?? wasn't he supposed to be back today?

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 10, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

P.S. Sign Vick

Posted by: p1funk | August 10, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

I think the NFL should work on developing a farm system along the lines of professional baseball and allow teams to call up players throughout the season. To me, this seems logical. Hasn't the NFL tried to expand the visibility of the NFL through things like the World League of American Football and other failed entities? Weren't these informal farm systems? Why don't they just develop a network of farm teams in the smaller markets?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 10, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Assuming the Skins could sign Vick for the veteran minimum -- which is highly unlikely + the Skins have no salary cap space left after cutting Jansen and signing Orakpo/Jarmon -- which min salary player would you cut now so Vick could join the team after the 6th game?

Posted by: siris | August 10, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I would sign Vick if we could trade ARE for the 3rd rounder we gave up for Jarmon. Seriously.

"Vick, you aren't going to sniff QB any more than ARE did. But if you can return punts and play the slot, maybe run the wildcat, do that end around pass to Cooley, STFU, and not drown anything, then sign the dotted line and welcome to DC." - Matt as fantasy GM in place of Snidely

Posted by: mattsoundworld | August 10, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

red, happy birthday too....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 10, 2009 4:32 PM

That's belated BDay. BE-lated.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | August 10, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Vick could've fixed the O-line if Mike Williams had decided to get liposuction, that way Vick could've just inherited his fat and got the procedure opposite of lipo...

What's that called anyway? Instead of a boob job, it's more like an a** job, a butt filler if you will. It's becoming popular with women wanting to enhance their derriere.

Posted by: RedDMV | August 10, 2009 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Skins have pulled hamstrings more often than offensive linemen go for seconds at all you can eat buffet.

Posted by: rizaman | August 10, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

No one in the organization has told me they envision Tryon becoming a starter, but next season he could fill the spot Smoot currently occupies, one team official told me.

By Jason Reid | August 10, 2009

Some may have thought that Jason La Canfora left this blog...but ah, he taught his sidekick Jason Reid well.

Rule Number One: always try to stir controversy, even where none exists (see above comment about Tryon replacing fan-favorite Smoot next year).

Rule Number Two: when you are trying to stir controversy, it's best to use anonymous comments so that they cannot be verified (see above comment from one "team official")

Rule Number Three: Make inexplicable comments that simply make no sense, such as above comment that "No one in the organization has told me they envision Tryon becoming a starter." Why would the team envision Tryon as a starter when they have just spent tens of millions of dollars signing D'Angelo Hall as their 2nd starting cornerback along side their top corner, Carlos Rogers, who they plan on signing to a new contract after his current one expires? Would it not be a total slap in the face to Rogers if someone in the organization said they plan on Tryon eventually becoming the starter?

My God, it's becoming really hard to tell Jason Reid apart from Jason La Canfora these days.

Posted by: Barno1 | August 10, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Vick could've fixed the O-line if Mike Williams had decided to get liposuction, that way Vick could've just inherited his fat and got the procedure opposite of lipo...

What's that called anyway? Instead of a boob job, it's more like an a** job, a butt filler if you will. It's becoming popular with women wanting to enhance their derriere.

Posted by: RedDMV | August 10, 2009 4:39 PM | Report abuse
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Instead of the 'butt burglar', that's more of the 'butt Robin Hood', right? And they are - technically - men in tights...

Posted by: mattsoundworld | August 10, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

gatorskinz2000,

See my essay to Moe for a thoughtful explanation as to why Vick would be a great fix for us.

He's been out for 2 years, which means no wear-and-tear on his body.

Our D will carry this team, and if Vick's got something left in those legs to move the chains every once in a while, it would be a heck of alot better than the massacre that JC will endure behind this line.

I'm not concerned about the PETA; just bring some hummus.

Besides we are called the freakin' "Redskins". If our overtly racist name doesn't bug us, let's not get high-and-holy over the animal issue.

Posted by: p1funk | August 10, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

"Does anyone else realize we could have had DeSean Jackson and Eddie Royal instead of these to injury prone workaholics"

Are you serious? Those two receivers are both under six feet tall. Did we really need to draft two more receivers like that last year? We already have plenty of short speedy guys. Give us all a break and show a bit of patience. Good lord! I hope I don't ever have the displeasure of working for someone like you...

Posted by: Burg_gold_blood | August 10, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

We need to run more bootleg plays to keep Jason from being a tackling dummy. Using the wildcat couldn't hurt either, but you never know how it's going to play out. The O-line should have extra incentive to keep JC's jersey clean.

Posted by: iH8dallas | August 10, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

We need to run more bootleg plays to keep Jason from being a tackling dummy. Using the wildcat couldn't hurt either, but you never know how it's going to play out. The O-line should have extra incentive to keep JC's jersey clean.

Posted by: iH8dallas | August 10, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse


Or we could just sign Vick.

Posted by: p1funk | August 10, 2009 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Zorn: ... 'Not to My Liking'

Those words, they sound kind of "piratey" to me. "Yar, them injries be not to me liking."

Posted by: dcsween | August 10, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

I'm one of those guys that want to stay as far away from Vick as possible....no matter what he can do on the field.

Posted by: iH8dallas | August 10, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

And I am one of those that would welcome Vick with two open arms to the Redskins.

Posted by: psps23 | August 10, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

p1funk

"Crappy injured Oline = Need QB to improvise/make plays on run = Vick. Vick throw to TE not WR. Skins = Good TEs, bum WRs. Make sense?"


"Make sense"...?

To me, no.

I mean, who loses a roster spot while your team experiments with just how to use Vick?

And if you make such a personnel and time investment, how do you respond in the event of Vick getting injured?

The redskins' offensive line can ease it's issues by returning to a 'run-first' style as pass protection just isn't it's strenght.

The best scenario is for Vick to sit out the season, be a model citizen, and join an NFL team during the next off-season so he can be integrated into an offense during OTAs.

I know that's more than 25 words, but I spent the day watching powerpoints and getting motivated to do my job when the signature on the lower right-hand side of my check is all I need.

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 10, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

My God, it's becoming really hard to tell Jason Reid apart from Jason La Canfora these days.

Posted by: Barno1 | August 10, 2009 4:40 PM

Both named Jason.
Both work for WAPO.
And both never gave you an autographed DVD.
Am I missing anything?

Posted by: mack1 | August 10, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Rule Number One: always try to stir controversy, even where none exists (see above comment about Tryon replacing fan-favorite Smoot next year).

Hoping your draft picks play better than the guys you got is not 'starting controversy'. It's called reality.

Rule Number Two: when you are trying to stir controversy, it's best to use anonymous comments so that they cannot be verified (see above comment from one "team official")

Cleary their strategy of drafting DBs (Horton, Tryon, Moore, & Barnes) was a public testament of faith in Springs, Smoot, & Rogers, and these 'team sources' are speaking out their rears ...

Rule Number Three: Make inexplicable comments that simply make no sense, such as above comment that "No one in the organization has told me they envision Tryon becoming a starter." Why would the team envision Tryon as a starter when they have just spent tens of millions of dollars signing D'Angelo Hall as their 2nd starting cornerback along side their top corner, Carlos Rogers, who they plan on signing to a new contract after his current one expires? Would it not be a total slap in the face to Rogers if someone in the organization said they plan on Tryon eventually becoming the starter?

You just ranted a minute ago about Tryon possibly replacing Smoot, who is 2 spots away from Rogers. Why on earth would Rogers be offended by the battle for the #3 spot?

Posted by: Barno1 | August 10, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse
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Ease off the Monday's yo...

Posted by: mattsoundworld | August 10, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

The comment that we go with Vick because we're loaded at TE's to throw to, but constantly struggling at WR with their injuries, is interesting..But hopefully he'd never end up on the PUP list (drums, cymbals)..

Posted by: frak | August 10, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

I think the NFL should work on developing a farm system along the lines of professional baseball and allow teams to call up players throughout the season. To me, this seems logical. Hasn't the NFL tried to expand the visibility of the NFL through things like the World League of American Football and other failed entities? Weren't these informal farm systems? Why don't they just develop a network of farm teams in the smaller markets?

Posted by: RedSkinHead | August 10, 2009 4:36 PM

There already is a farm system and it outcompetes every fakey wannabe league that has come since. Its called college football.

Posted by: dcsween | August 10, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

--He's been out for 2 years, which means no wear-and-tear on his body.
_Being inside an 8x12 cell 20+hours a day isnt exactly what you want for a guy outside the league 2 years from a conditioning standpoint.
--I'm not concerned about the PETA; just bring some hummus.
_ Im not worried about PETA either, but the ASPCA has non space cadet status unlike PETA and has a very large and dedicated support system.
Point is drop the Vick talk!!

Posted by: Stu27 | August 10, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, the Eagles are having a really tough camp - I heard Don Henley has a hammy and Glenn Frey tore an ACL

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | August 10, 2009 4:58 PM | Report abuse

"inexplicable comments that simply make no sense..."

hmmm. is this from the DoRD?

Posted by: chasgiffen | August 10, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

And I am one of those that would welcome Vick with two open arms to the Redskins.

Posted by: psps23 | August 10, 2009 4:53 PM

And at the bottom of the sea, there is an octopus that would welcome him with eight open arms. The point is that he won't be welcomed to any park unless and until the starter gets injured for the season or is a proven failure (and Kyle Orton in Denver appears to be the front runner in that competition). Until then, no owner has the cover to avoid the media fall out (manufactured or otherwise) that would follow the welcoming ... and it won't be with open arms, it will be with open wallet.

Posted by: dcsween | August 10, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

p1funk

"Crappy injured Oline = Need QB to improvise/make plays on run = Vick. Vick throw to TE not WR. Skins = Good TEs, bum WRs. Make sense?"


"Make sense"...?

To me, no.

I mean, who loses a roster spot while your team experiments with just how to use Vick?

-MistaMoe, PHD, as in 'Phudd'
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That's why I said trade ARE for a 3rd rounder and simply have Vick in El's spot. If Vick would swallow his pride and give up the QB gig, he could totally out perform El.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | August 10, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

PS, that was a 'LadyKillers' ref, MistaMoe, not a political statement of any sort.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | August 10, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, the Eagles are having a really tough camp - I heard Don Henley has a hammy and Glenn Frey tore an ACL

Posted by: JohnDinHouston
___________________________

And in the immortal words of the Dude... "I hate the f%&kin eagles!"

Posted by: chasgiffen | August 10, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, the Eagles are having a really tough camp - I heard Don Henley has a hammy and Glenn Frey tore an ACL

Posted by: JohnDinHouston
___________________________

And in the immortal words of the Dude... "I hate the f%&kin eagles!"

Posted by: chasgiffen | August 10, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone else realize we could have had DeSean Jackson and Eddie Royal instead of these to injury prone workaholics


Posted by: hehateme

I understand both Eddie Royal and Desean Jackson are dinged up right now (and not practicing).

Also, as has been stated many times on here, Vinny chose to draft Kelly and Thomas so that we would have some TALL WRs - Royal and Jackson are not TALL.

Posted by: Lisa_R | August 10, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

mattsoundworld

It's all good, bro'.

I'm in a good mood today.

And whenever I do get upset, I look at the AL East, see who's in 1st place by 6 games the second week in August, and say to myself, "And just think: football is back, too!"

It can't get no bedda than this...

Posted by: MistaMoe | August 10, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse

My God, it's becoming really hard to tell Jason Reid apart from Jason La Canfora these days.

Posted by: Barno1 | August 10, 2009 4:40 PM

Both named Jason.
Both work for WAPO.
And both never gave you an autographed DVD.
Am I missing anything?

Posted by: mack1 | August 10, 2009 4:55 PM

Hah! Yes, a couple more:

Both short/pudgy
Both have that south park smug episode look on their faces
http://media.southparkstudios.com/img/content/season10/1002.jpg

Posted by: Barno1 | August 10, 2009 5:09 PM | Report abuse

In the immortal words of Mojo Nixon:

"Don Henley Must die, don't let him get back to gether with Glen Frey...Don Henley must Die"

Not the same song but some more Mojo Nixon mayhem "Burn Down the Malls"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAoh_yteKkc

Posted by: chrislarry | August 10, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

In the immortal words of Miss South Carolina, "such as"

Posted by: dcsween | August 10, 2009 5:15 PM | Report abuse

In the immortal words of St. Joe Gibbs, "super smart ... guts out ... up here ..."

Posted by: dcsween | August 10, 2009 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Methinks the NFL would be better served to bring back the old "cab squads" stashing players, while increasing the salary cap particularly since they plan on extending the season. Teams are going to need more players ... especially lineman I suspect.

Posted by: periculum | August 10, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Ok I recall two a days in high school and D2 college. Injuries happened but verrrry rare. We normally went 110% during practice because that's football. No we dont't play 16 games but does it seem odd the number of injuries the NFL sees in 'practice' during training camp? I mean what's really going on? And hamstrings? jeesh

Posted by: overzealous08 | August 10, 2009 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Everyone who hates on D Jackson and Royal because they aren't taller is missing the whole point. Half the players in the HOF were either too slow or too small when they got into the league. You draft football players that produce. A year from now we may not even be running the WCO and then what will it matter. Furthermore, who cares how tall anyone is if they can't learn the playbook or are injury prone? You can say whatever you want but passing on two playmakers just because they're too small makes no sense. All of you jock Moss, and he's smaller than both of them. If one of those two turn out to be 75% of S. Smith, what will you say then.
Talent Evaluator--It's not my profession to project players, but it certainly is Cerrato's...agree?

Posted by: hehateme | August 10, 2009 5:17 PM | Report abuse

In the immortal words of Barno, "Whah whah whah"

Posted by: 4-12 | August 10, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

"I mean, who loses a roster spot while your team experiments with just how to use Vick?

-MistaMoe, PHD, as in 'Phudd'"

Who needs to be cut?? F*** THE NFL AND ITS RULES!! oh, geez, I sound just like the US Government..love always, Bugs

Posted by: frak | August 10, 2009 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Again!! with the hamstring issues who in the name of Charley Taylor are monitoring KID&PLAY(Thomas/Kelly) in the off season anyone take notes during the OTA'S this is ridiculous, "health issues" be dammed this was the same bull sh!t last year when neither one of them could get through their individual drills during training camp, PLEASE!! they should know by now what is expected of them if i was Zorn i'd fine em both especially Thomas who always has an excuse about one thing or the other.They are both full of krap.

Posted by: dargregmag | August 10, 2009 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Again!! with the hamstring issues who in the name of Charley Taylor are monitoring KID&PLAY(Thomas/Kelly) in the off season anyone take notes during the OTA'S this is ridiculous, "health issues" be dammed ...

Posted by: dargregmag | August 10, 2009 5:22 PM

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Walter Sobchak: [looking at his hero writer Digby Sellers in an iron lung] Does he still write?

Pilar, Sellers' Housekeeper: Oh no no, he has health problems.

Posted by: dcsween | August 10, 2009 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Similarities between Barno and Barno1:

They both waste too much time caring what's typed at the top of this page, or who is typing it.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | August 10, 2009 5:29 PM | Report abuse

"And a good day to you, sir!!"

Posted by: chasgiffen | August 10, 2009 5:33 PM | Report abuse

I love the fact that the hype team of 2010 is having all these injuries. Check out the beast blog on espn if you want to hear them cry. Weren't the Eagles the first tram to go "live" with contact this year? Paid off for every other tram in the beast except them.

Posted by: murphyz | August 10, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

He wants to be with his teammates," Zorn said of Randy Thomas. "We are trying to pull the reigns on him. We are trying to crack the whip on a few others. It is all custom-made when you are talking about rehabilitation."

If you read between the lines here you can tell that Zorn isn't happy with some of the guys who are "injured" and not practicing. Portis perhaps? Devin maybe? What do you have to pay a guy to be professional and practice? maybe they need to watch the news and see how bad it is out there these days and start taking advantage of the opportunities before them.

Posted by: scottmando | August 10, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

I could had sworn I apprehended Zorn on a search and seizure boarding in the gulf of Oman when i was on deployment in 2007.

Posted by: murphyz | August 10, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

I could had sworn I apprehended Zorn on a search and seizure boarding in the gulf of Oman when i was on deployment in 2007.

Posted by: murphyz | August 10, 2009 5:46 PM

That would explain why he talks like a pirate ... and why all of his kids look semi-Somali.

Posted by: dcsween | August 10, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

It's just comical reading these comments from the doomsday'ers. Unless Samuels, Dockery, or Thomas breaks a bone or tears a ligament before the opener in September, this O-line will be fine this year.

Stop the needless worrying folks.

Posted by: Barno1 | August 10, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse
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Yeah, because our o-line last year with pretty much the same cast of jokers was so reliable.

what a mar-oon.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | August 10, 2009 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Maybe all these guys would already be 100% healthy under Barack "The Chosen One" Obama's new healthcare system.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | August 10, 2009 6:01 PM | Report abuse

He wants to be with his teammates," Zorn said of Randy Thomas. "We are trying to pull the reigns on him. We are trying to crack the whip on a few others. It is all custom-made when you are talking about rehabilitation."


just a little grammar stuff:

reign -- what a ruler of a nation does
rein -- what you use to slow a horse, or a Skins OL's rehab, apparently
rain -- what it does on the Redskins fans' annual parade
Rayne -- maker of water conditioning products
Rainn -- first name of actor on 'The Office'

rane -- how all of the above should be spelt

Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 10, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Ok I recall two a days in high school and D2 college. Injuries happened but verrrry rare. We normally went 110% during practice because that's football. No we don't play 16 games but does it seem odd the number of injuries the NFL sees in 'practice' during training camp? I mean what's really going on? And hamstrings? jeesh

Posted by: overzealous08 | August 10, 2009

Motivation:
Hmmm, for starters there are people competing for high paying jobs ... even the special teamers make pretty good change.
Physics:
NFL players **are all** a whole heck of a lot bigger and faster than any HS or college team could muster. Force equals mass times acceleration. So, when you get hit by one of them you definitely feel it in places you never thought you could feel it. Speed inevitably leads to twisted ankles, knees, etc.
Competition:
You are going up against the best of the best, every single practice, every single play. It can be wearing for some, a nightmare for others. Like say a Geisinger?

Posted by: periculum | August 10, 2009 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Is it me, or are Jason LaC's glasses always crooked on NFL network? Or maybe his glasses are straight and his head is crooked.
Bring back the Hamburgrlar! ( Butt B's sidekick )

Posted by: bostskin | August 10, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Maybe all these guys would already be 100% healthy under Barack "The Chosen One" Obama's new healthcare system.

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop

Have you been to a freakin' emergency room lately?? Its like, "Which person screaming in pain has the health insurance"?? And they closed DC General, jeeziz, those downtown poor people must be feelin' it..

Posted by: frak | August 10, 2009 6:17 PM | Report abuse

I'm convinced the NWO is trying to rid DC of poor black people, closing DC General just another aspect (pouring in drugs, guns, etc.)..Poser black bourgeousie to parade around like world is normal, etc...

Posted by: frak | August 10, 2009 6:26 PM | Report abuse

JaLa definately has a nerd head. His head and Jamie Dukes sweat make for an unbelievable broadcasting tandem. If only Rich Eisen had some sort of oddity...

Posted by: murphyz | August 10, 2009 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Rayne -- Really smokin' hot android that Kirk did in one of the old star trek episodes.

Posted by: periculum | August 10, 2009 6:48 PM | Report abuse

You wanna know how to cure our Oline woes??

Sign Vick.

Posted by: p1funk | August 10, 2009

See signing Jeff George, Snidely singin' put 'em in coach he's ready to play, he can be ... quarterback ... or else. Redskins get crushed like a an Arena League team. Snidely wrings his hands ... oh what to do, what to do, I've already used my silver bullet (Joe Gibbs)?

I've seen Vick on "Ghost Radar" on my iPhone ...

Posted by: periculum | August 10, 2009 6:53 PM | Report abuse

At least Barack Obama healthcare system isn't full of sh%t like Poopy Poop's handle and rhetoric.

Vick will be playing for an NFL team this year and won't be waiting until next year or going to Canada or showing extra amounts of contrition and apologizing and holding his head down and shuffling his feet and not looking anyone in the eye and.....

Posted by: 72Redskins | August 10, 2009 6:55 PM | Report abuse

red, happy birthday too....

Posted by: BeantownGreg1 | August 10, 2009 4:32 PM

That's belated BDay. BE-lated.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | August 10, 2009 4:38 PM |

Didn't notice any of you nobs wishing the big guy a happy B-day, even belated. See below:

Belated happy 48th B-day, President Obama.

I was going to post this yesterday and forgot. Sorry.

Posted by: CottonEyeJoe | August 5, 2009 2:20 AM | Report abuse

Don't worry, Joe. The teleprompter doesn't carry this blog, so Obie never reads it.

Posted by: freakzilla | August 5, 2009 2:52 AM |

Posted by: BlackBagOps | August 10, 2009 6:58 PM | Report abuse

At least Barack Obama healthcare system isn't full of sh%t like Poopy Poop's handle and rhetoric.

Posted by: 72Redskins | August 10, 2009 6:55 PM |

That's right, we don't know what it's full of.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 10, 2009 6:58 PM | Report abuse

At least Barack Obama healthcare system isn't full of sh%t like Poopy Poop's handle and rhetoric.

Posted by: 72Redskins | August 10, 2009 6:55 PM |

That's right, we don't know what it's full of.

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 10, 2009 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Lifelong Redskins fan now living in California. Old enough to remember Jurgensen and Kilmer in their prime.

Many of U of Hawaii's games were on TV out here and I saw Colt Brennan play about a half dozen times. Don't let that lousy bowl appearance fool you, the Hawaii team was outmatched and one guy can't do it alone.

I hope Brennan gets a chance to play. Some will hold his size against him, but he's roughly the same size as Fran Tarkenton who had a pretty decent career.

If he gets on the field for some significant playing time, he could surprise a lot of people.

Posted by: anthony002 | August 10, 2009 6:59 PM | Report abuse

just a little grammar stuff:
reign -- what a ruler of a nation does
rein -- what you use to slow a horse, or a Skins OL's rehab, apparently
rain -- what it does on the Redskins fans' annual parade
Rayne -- maker of water conditioning products
Rainn -- first name of actor on 'The Office'
rane -- how all of the above should be spelt
Posted by: zcezcest1 | August 10, 2009 6:08 PM |

Dude - this is a blog. Misspelling is de rigueur hear. lamo!

(lamo=lmao for this post; or not)

Posted by: BlackBagOps | August 10, 2009 7:00 PM | Report abuse

beeps...

Posted by: scampbell1975 | August 10, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Anthony002, I'm looking forward to seeing Colt play this preseason more than just about anything else. I don't like Campbells indecisiveness and slow motion delivery. He takes too long to decide what to do when things break down or nothings there: Should I run or should I throw it away, what should I do?

I don't think Colt wastes any time asking himself that question, and his delivery is quicker. Colt this is your time to shine.

Posted by: 72Redskins | August 10, 2009 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Why is it the Skins are so injured even before any game or live action has taken place? Its just not a good sign.

Posted by: agupta1 | August 10, 2009 7:14 PM | Report abuse

That's okay I'm not 100% healthy either, so I might miss watching the game even if it is on TV here ;)

Posted by: Veretax | August 10, 2009 7:38 PM | Report abuse

I was stationed in Hawaii while Colt was there and my brother in law was a WR for UH as well. He was used to say Colt was for real and had nothing but fun when he played. I think the dude is going to have a solid career. He should definately get the back up role this year. My dog has a stronger arm than Todd

Posted by: murphyz | August 10, 2009 8:11 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait until the regular season starts so that the beat writers can have something substantive to report, other than so-and-so was "carted off the field" because of a sore hammy. Geezus Christ, people--it's two a days, in the summer heat. I get the OL concerns, but at the same time, it's a bit insane to slit your wrists over every single report of a player with "soreness." It never fails--every single year fans around the league drive themselves nuts because blogs like this one report every single cut, scratch, etc., then all of the fans who apparently have never followed a two-a-day training camp treat every injury as if the player has torn an ACL.

Stop the madness. Please. What in the hell do people expect when massive players are practicing two times a day in 90 degree heat and hitting for the first time in several months?

:banging head against the wall like Gus.

Posted by: redskins459 | August 10, 2009 8:27 PM | Report abuse

thomas and kelly are pure wussies. they haven't played ball in 2 years and their hstrings are already tweaked? they will be out of the league in 1.5 years. for lessons on playing ask gary clark

Posted by: heightofhypocrisy | August 10, 2009 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Thomas and Kelley are a joke. How the heck can they have tweaked hammies if they haven't been on the field. This whole wr situation just smells fowl. Vinnie's prized picks are a frigin'joke! Get someone that wants to play the damn game!

Posted by: joeboggs | August 10, 2009 9:15 PM | Report abuse

"Does anyone else realize we could have had DeSean Jackson and Eddie Royal instead of these to injury prone workaholicsPosted by: hehateme"

And Donnie Avery. But I see Avery went down with an injury yesterday.

Posted by: Samson151 | August 11, 2009 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Devin Thomas, Malcolm Kelly, and Fred Davis are all going to be busts. Its unfortunate, and its the truth.

Posted by: RedskinAddict | August 11, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

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