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Zorn to give up play-calling (updated)

After yet another poor offensive performance on Sunday afternoon in a 14-6 loss to the Kansas City Chiefs at FedEx Field, the Washington Redskins made a coaching change - but not the one many were expecting.

The Redskins' public relations team announced late Sunday night that Vinny Cerrato, the executive vice president of football operations, had met with Coach Jim Zorn after the game Sunday and told him he thought Zorn had too much on his plate. Cerrato said that someone else should call the plays and Zorn did not disagree, according to Zack Bolno, the Redskins' executive director of communications.

Cerrato and Zorn, who declined to comment when reached at his home Sunday night, will meet Monday to decide who will call the plays.

According to Bolno, Redskins owner Daniel Snyder is aware of the decision.

Reached Sunday night, Sherman Lewis, hired as an offensive consultant on Oct. 6 -- before losses to Carolina and Kansas City -- said he had not yet heard about the move. "I'm just sitting here watching the game film, trying to correct it," Lewis said. "I haven't heard anything."

By Paul Tenorio and Barry Svrluga  |  October 18, 2009; 8:44 PM ET
 
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1 foot out the door...

Posted by: jschildk1 | October 18, 2009 8:48 PM | Report abuse

IT'S ROCK BOTTOM. WE SUCK!!

Posted by: VegasJim | October 18, 2009 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Can't hurt.

Posted by: boothintexas | October 18, 2009 8:48 PM | Report abuse

first

Posted by: wopper | October 18, 2009 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Great move, Laurel (Vinny) Is Hardy (Danny) going to call the plays??

Posted by: Riddler1 | October 18, 2009 8:49 PM | Report abuse

One of the Sherms will call the plays -- oh, that'll fix everything!

Posted by: mknight1 | October 18, 2009 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Eagles better watch out now....this is huge and may turn around the season!

Posted by: leevi98 | October 18, 2009 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Bingo!

Posted by: edvar | October 18, 2009 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Genius! We'll pay him not to coach! Miami here we come!

Posted by: LarryBud | October 18, 2009 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Can I get a... hip hip... HOORAY!?

Posted by: massiveBrains | October 18, 2009 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Wow. Next they'll meet and decide to let someone else coach..........

Posted by: T-ROB | October 18, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

So will Sherm Lewis started calling bingo numbers...err I mean offensive plays next week?

Posted by: dc43_wiz_fan | October 18, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Genius! We'll pay him not to coach!

Posted by: LarryBud | October 18, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Hip hip...it's over.

Posted by: mack1 | October 18, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Have Zorn tell Vinny he wants him to succeed and for Vinny to stop calling drafts

Posted by: ocskins | October 18, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

i hope snyder will call the plays

Posted by: snydercash4clunkers | October 18, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Johnny,

Zorn doesn't have the locker room. Imagine in your line of work, your boss giving you specific direction, however, you know he won't be your boss soon. How likely are you to run through the proverbial wall for the lame duck?

Not likely.

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | October 18, 2009 8:20 PM | Report abuse

I would have thought so too, except that there *haven't* been any anonymous players complaining to the local media.

I'm still getting the impression that the players are behind Zorn (for whatever reason)... Of course, this week will be ugly and that may change...

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | October 18, 2009 8:48 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | October 18, 2009 8:52 PM | Report abuse

Cerato's idea? Oh my...another brilliant idea!

Posted by: MPNangle | October 18, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse

yay! lets still not fix the real f-ing problem. Vinny Cerdoucho is still the makeshift GM. Danny still wants to effect football decisions. And apparently they both dont think keeping their fan base should be a priority.

Posted by: wopper | October 18, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Sherm Lewis hasn't heard anything. I'm not surprised. He is here to be an extra pair of eyes, not an extra pair of ears.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 18, 2009 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Sorry for the double post; just trying to fake out Carlos Rogers.

Posted by: LarryBud | October 18, 2009 8:54 PM | Report abuse

I heard Flip Saunders had the Wizards throwing footballs around in practice. Maybe he has some plays he could lend to the Redskins.

On a serious note, who do you all think is going to be the coach and QB next year. I think the combo will be Mike Shannahan and Colt McCoy.

Posted by: dc43_wiz_fan | October 18, 2009 8:54 PM | Report abuse

I am glad "management" burned the midnight oil tonight so they could come up with this perceptive decision to help solve the problems with the Redskins.

Posted by: cannontl | October 18, 2009 8:54 PM | Report abuse

This is laughable at best!! I will agree that Zorn is a joke of a coach, but Vinny is going to make a coaching suggestion?!?!?! Give me a break!! Vinny doesn't know his arse (can I say that?) from a hole in the ground, and he thinks he has a clue about football?? This team should be dismantled from the top down. Period.

Posted by: Ireland2 | October 18, 2009 8:54 PM | Report abuse

YES!! My day just got a little better! I pray we will see a new offense next week. No more predictable run, run, pass!! I'm excited! Oh wait, Jason Campbell is still our quarterback.

Posted by: rachel216 | October 18, 2009 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Poor Zorn, I really feel for the guy, but hes been handed a pretty awful offensive line. Stephon Heyer is an awful RT, look what happened when he switched to LT, a total mess. Remember that it was Snyder the one who said "I think Zorn could be a good HC". And Zorny was hired to be a OC, and since no one wanted the HC job, he took it in stride.

Posted by: arbano1 | October 18, 2009 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Oh yeah, I just BET Zorn "agreed."

Posted by: fan-o-matic | October 18, 2009 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Great move, Laurel (Vinny) Is Hardy (Danny) going to call the plays??

Posted by: Riddler1 | October 18, 2009 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Comment of the week.

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | October 18, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Sherm Lewis hasn't heard anything. I'm not surprised. He is here to be an extra pair of eyes, not an extra pair of ears.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 18, 2009 8:54 PM |

That's some funny sht

Posted by: amcg | October 18, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Enough beating up on Campbell and Zorn. How do we make management hurt. Not like in their pocket books, like physically hurt, anyone have any ideas?

Posted by: massiveBrains | October 18, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Ahhhhh. 1 Newsflash true so far. Change was made as coach medium missed the 5 pin for a spare to give him a 49 total pins.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | October 18, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Ireland2- Yes Vinny is retarded but he's got it right here. Zorn is the worst playcaller in the NFL and if he keeps calling plays we may never reach 20 points in any game this year. We have to try something new.

Posted by: rachel216 | October 18, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse

So, in essence, Zorn is back to being a QB coach without actually being demoted?

If he's not calling plays, and he's not coaching the defense, what exactly will he be doing?

Posted by: acoberst1 | October 18, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Another stupid act...So, who's gonna call the plays? Zorn is the offensive coordinator too. Who's left in the offense to call? Campbell? Or wait, it's PORTIS!!!

Posted by: fnralch | October 18, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Well they do have an offensive coordinator in sherm smith right????

Posted by: pennstate1 | October 18, 2009 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Snyder can be turned from the dark side if fans get mad enough and start making decisions that affect his pocket book.

Posted by: cannontl | October 18, 2009 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Jesus H Christ...fire Cerrato and get on with fixing what is damaged. F you Snyder.

Posted by: Goss1 | October 18, 2009 8:58 PM | Report abuse

This is the solution after another sorry performance??? thank you Vinny for finding this great coach who you are not going to let call any plays anymore.

My cousin could do better

Posted by: jocool_19 | October 18, 2009 8:59 PM | Report abuse

I'm getting sick of the "players are behind zorn" bs. If they REALLY were worried about their coach, they would play better!! Win a d@mn game and quit worrying about the front office giving zorn an endorsement. Winning is giving your coach an endorsement.

As far as play calling, something has needed to change!! You have a 79 yd run to the 10 and your next play is 5 wides???? Makes NO sense. A "patch work" o-line can run block easier than pass block!!

Posted by: Lacantwrite | October 18, 2009 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like the loser just got another week. How sad -- as it only prelongs the inevitable. Just pull the trigger and let him go already!

Posted by: Vic1 | October 18, 2009 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Can we also have Cerrato stop making personnel decisions? Then this team might get somewhere.

Posted by: chasgiffen | October 18, 2009 8:59 PM | Report abuse

IMO they are trying to humiliate him into quitting. If they fire him, they have to pay him. If he quits, they don't.

Posted by: hubcap | October 18, 2009 9:00 PM | Report abuse

This is just so, so sad. I feel horrible for Zorn. He's a good dude thrust into a bad situation by inept management. I agree that he's in over his head, but I hope at some point that Snyder and Cerrato hold themselves accountable for putting him in this position. God save the Skins.

Posted by: rucks35 | October 18, 2009 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Hey Zorn, tell Vinny that "OK I'll stop calling plays, you stop calling Draft Picks... deal?"

Posted by: job22 | October 18, 2009 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Why would ANY coach of ANY stature (Shannahan, Cowher, Gruden, etc.) ever want to get mixed up with Snyderato? They've ruined the good name of one of the great NFL franchises. What a freakin mess!

Posted by: mknight1 | October 18, 2009 9:00 PM | Report abuse

They've taken Mike Wise's advice and are going to use the 'Ask the Coach' function on Madden 2009...

Posted by: blueinva | October 18, 2009 9:01 PM | Report abuse

What a load. It's not going to matter who's calling plays. This team cannot execute this particular playbook. Not that they could necessarily execute at all -- that's all speculation. But unless you completely gut the offensive scheme in one week, there will be exactly zero marked difference next week.

Posted by: fan-o-matic | October 18, 2009 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Zorn is like Obozo. He got to go for non-performance.

Posted by: charlietuna666 | October 18, 2009 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Was at the game and I know Collins wasn't too much better and I've actually been a JC advocate for a while...I do believe it's time to play Toddball for a little while. Neither will be the starter next season but Todd will be there as a backup or an early starter for the new rookie. JC won't be resigned.

Zorn not calling plays is just a way not to fire him before the bye week and for Dan and Vinny to find the next victim...er..coach.

Posted by: svxcountry1 | October 18, 2009 9:01 PM | Report abuse


Genius! We'll pay him not to coach!

Posted by: LarryBud | October 18, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

From The Marx Brothers "Animal Crackers":

(Groucho is Captain Spaulding who is talking to Chico as Ravelli who is the party's musical entertainment.)

Spaulding: What do you fellas get an hour?
Ravelli: For playing, we get-a ten dollars an hour.
Spaulding: I see. What do you get for not playing?
Ravelli: Twelve dollars an hour.
Spaulding: Well, clip me off a piece of that.
Ravelli: Now for rehearsing, we make special rate. That's-a fifteen dollars an hour...That's-a for rehearsing.
Spaulding: And what do you get for not rehearsing?
Ravelli: You couldn't afford it. You see, if we don't rehearse, we a-don't play, and if we don't play (he snaps his finger) - that runs into money.
Spaulding: How much would you want to run into an open manhole?
Ravelli: Just-a the cover charge! Ha, ha, ha.
Spaulding: Well, drop in some time.
Ravelli: Sewer.
Spaulding: Well, we cleaned that up pretty well.

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | October 18, 2009 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Cerrato = Wormtounge. Pray for Snyder. Vinny on O-Line:

Read this exchange between Larry Michael and Vinny.... ( Hard to believe he was really asking his boss these hard questions )

"Vinny you catch a lot [of heat] over the weeks in terms of the roster, where this team is," Michael began. "But take a look at the offensive line, this has your stamp on it today. You've got Mike Williams, a project that YOU picked up as the guy making the decisions on the team, he's the right tackle. Stephon Heyer is to the left. Will Montgomery, another Vinny Cerrato guy. Derrick Dockery, you brought him in this year. So this offensive line today has your stamp on it, doesn't it?"

"Yeah," Cerrato agreed, his voice literally cracking. "Well, it did with Chris Samuels in it, too. I mean, the same, you know, last week, Mike Williams was playing right guard, and Heyer was playing right tackle, and Samuels was playing left tackle, so that did too. So, you know, I don't see what that really matters, Larry."

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | October 18, 2009 8:32 PM

Wow. That's to be dealt w/ in 2010.

Hope for '09 Today! Collins (does read progressions), 60.1 rating: Soup, 46.1. Each played a half. Play the best player.... Practice with the starters. Zorn calls enough good plays; however the execution has been sorely lacking. God Willing 15-4 this season. Win the next game!

HTTR, HV!

Posted by: Realness1 | October 18, 2009 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like the loser just got another week. How sad -- as it only prolongs the inevitable -- and delays his firing. Just pull the trigger and let him go already! In the interest of compassion, call it a mercy killing if you must.

Posted by: Vic1 | October 18, 2009 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Zorn presumably would be a major force in creating the game plan, just not calling the plays available for the game, acoberst1.

Posted by: cannontl | October 18, 2009 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Sherm Lewis hasn't heard anything. I'm not surprised. He is here to be an extra pair of eyes, not an extra pair of ears.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 18, 2009 8:54 PM |
_________________

Time to hire some ears Danny! Spare no expense!

Posted by: chasgiffen | October 18, 2009 9:02 PM | Report abuse

This is a good move. It frees Zorn up to help the defense.

Posted by: mack1 | October 18, 2009 9:03 PM | Report abuse

"Cerrato said that someone else should call the plays and Zorn did not disagree..."

Just like Zorn agreed he needed "another set of eyes." Hah, hah, hah!!!

Good news for you Zorny is that you can have all the unprotected sex you want w/o fear of getting anybody pregnant, since $nyder and Cerrato have clipped your boys off.

Posted by: nojunk4me | October 18, 2009 9:03 PM | Report abuse

The uncapped year is an opportunity, IF Snyder is smart enough to make major personal changes in the way he chooses to run the football side of the front office. I have my doubts.

Blowing out the ARE, CP etc etc etc salaries is only a good thing if he brings in a quality GM and a Coach who have the vision to rebuild the team. Two OT, a G and a SS LB would be moves 1-4 and go a long way toward moving this team in a positive direction. Let Colt take the abuse until the line is in order before bringing in a franchise QB in year 2 or 3. Who knows, with time, Colt may just surprise.

I think we fans all know that a major restructuring is needed, unfortunately all we can do is hope that Snyder a) realizes this as well, and b) has the discipline to make the requisite moves and stay the hell out of the kitchen while the project unfolds.

Again, I have my doubts.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 18, 2009 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Wow, Danny and Vinny just keep embarrassing themselves and the team over and over and over... this is SO stupid.

Zorn is in over his head and that's Danny and Vinny's fault. Zorn should never have been made HC in the first place and now they come up with THIS brilliant solution? Unreal. This is a sideshow...

Posted by: luvtheskins428 | October 18, 2009 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Rachel,

You would think after seeing TC, that you can't pin this on JC. He didn't have a great game, but he's got the David Carr syndrome... Shell shocked... just look at his feet in the pocket. Rarely sets, steps and throws.. he is throwing on the run quite a bit. Look at Games 1-8 last year with a healthy line... He is an accurate passer. ( usually )

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | October 18, 2009 9:05 PM | Report abuse

"My cousin could do better"--LMAO!!!

That should be the new anti-Snyder/Vinny slogan: "My cousin could do better". Start making the t-shirts and bumper stickers now!

Posted by: gringoinmiami | October 18, 2009 9:05 PM | Report abuse

By the way, Tennessee had -7 yards passing today. Anyone know if a team has ever ended a game with negative passing yards?

Posted by: fan-o-matic | October 18, 2009 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Another bandaid on the sinking ship !!!...obviously danny's call...maybe Vinny will call the plays when he's not otherwise servicing Danny in the box...a bunch of losers !....Please SELL the F'ing Team

Posted by: dl51 | October 18, 2009 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Why don't they get Hainsworth to play O-Line instead. This way he only has to play three downs and he won't wear a path out running to the bench every third down to rest...

Posted by: jfk10 | October 18, 2009 9:06 PM | Report abuse


Spaulding: What do you fellas get an hour?
Ravelli: For playing, we get-a ten dollars an hour.
Spaulding: I see. What do you get for not playing?
Ravelli: Twelve dollars an hour.
Spaulding: Well, clip me off a piece of that.
Ravelli: Now for rehearsing, we make special rate. That's-a fifteen dollars an hour...That's-a for rehearsing.
Spaulding: And what do you get for not rehearsing?
Ravelli: You couldn't afford it. You see, if we don't rehearse, we a-don't play, and if we don't play (he snaps his finger) - that runs into money.
Spaulding: How much would you want to run into an open manhole?
Ravelli: Just-a the cover charge! Ha, ha, ha.
Spaulding: Well, drop in some time.
Ravelli: Sewer.
Spaulding: Well, we cleaned that up pretty well.

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | October 18, 2009 9:01 PM |

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhaDA7TneL4

Posted by: JohnnyRyde | October 18, 2009 9:07 PM | Report abuse

What do we have in the playbook that doesn't rely on offensive line play?

Oh...

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 18, 2009 9:07 PM | Report abuse

who is calling plays Snyder or his butt boy cerrato?

So glad we gave up our tickets last after he failed to hire Williams but hired deer in the headlights Zorn

More empty days at the stadium to follow!!!!

Posted by: kathymac1 | October 18, 2009 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Wow, I mean, for the team its no big deal, Zorn stopped calling good plays about this time a year ago, but for Zorn I mean, wow, why would you agree to this? I tell Vinny to stuff, it you had gotten me some oline help we'd be fine and if you don't want me to call my offense my way then fire me. I can't believe he would agree to this, just another example of why he doesn't have what it takes to be a leader of men, no spine.

Posted by: zjfr2 | October 18, 2009 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Why don't they get Hainsworth to play O-Line instead. This way he only has to play three downs and he won't wear a path out running to the bench every third down to rest...

Posted by: jfk10 | October 18, 2009 9:06 PM

Nice!

Posted by: fan-o-matic | October 18, 2009 9:08 PM | Report abuse

We found out today that is is not the quarterback. Next week, will we find out if it is the head coach calling the plays. If we keep eliminating the suspects, one day we will get to Snyder.

Posted by: golfwise | October 18, 2009 9:08 PM | Report abuse

SELL THE TEAM.. SELL THE TEAM ..SELL THE TEAM

Posted by: dl51 | October 18, 2009 9:09 PM | Report abuse

With this year's O-Line (thanks Vinny) - the number one play is "duck Jason". Today we showed that "watch out, Todd" doesn't work any better. So.... what does it matter who calls the plays? Feels really good to know that Vinny is so deeply involved. You Vinny, how about calling "I resign, my conscience won't let me take Mr. Snyder's money any more" (even if the players don't have that problem). Maybe next year, with a salary cap-less year and a new GM, we can bite the bullet, pay everyone the bonuses they signed up for without taking a cap hit, and start the rebuilding process. (If Vinny's around, we'll end up trading 2nd and 3rd round picks for 39 year old D-Ends again - I hear Jason Taylor's going to be available.)

Posted by: jburnetti | October 18, 2009 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: drum__head | October 18, 2009 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Why is everybody so mad? Everyone hated Zorn for his playcalling. Now he's giving them up and everyone is mad?

Posted by: rachel216 | October 18, 2009 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Sherm Lewis hasn't heard anything. I'm not surprised. He is here to be an extra pair of eyes, not an extra pair of ears.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | October 18, 2009 8:54 PM |

LMAO!!!

Posted by: nojunk4me | October 18, 2009 9:10 PM | Report abuse

As I started the day with the Tampa Bay Bucs 1976 HC, John McKay was asked a question after another embarrasing loss...

"John, how do you feel about the execution of your offense"

Johns's reply "I'm in favor of it"

Priceless, 33 yrs later. Boy does that fit us right now.

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | October 18, 2009 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Zorn shouldn't have to take this crap...just save your dignity and quit...

Posted by: mattylight | October 18, 2009 9:10 PM | Report abuse

what a joke. typical micromanagement by Snyderratto.

Tom Cruise is calling the plays now

Posted by: jpfterps | October 18, 2009 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Danny & Vinny have more than just a business relationship... Could this be what's clouding Dan's judgement about this buffoon? Hmmm

Posted by: chasgiffen | October 18, 2009 9:11 PM | Report abuse

they had greg williams, defensive guru and previous head coach.
He would have had the locker room or else.
Each off season they pick up highpriced free agents, who were let go for a reason,
and field the same apathetic losers again and again. did i mention snyder chose zorn over williams? Expect another desperation move and the same results.

Posted by: mugsaway05 | October 18, 2009 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Let's have Sonny Call in the Plays !!!

Posted by: dl51 | October 18, 2009 9:12 PM | Report abuse

The emasculation continues.

Posted by: leetee1955 | October 18, 2009 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Too much on Zorn's plate? And Vinny has too much on his plate. It's time for a big thanksgiving dinner at grandma's house. And then a game of bingo.

Posted by: kls1 | October 18, 2009 9:13 PM | Report abuse

I don't get the haynesworth bashing? He absolutely dominated today! He's made a HUGE impact with Carter and orakpo getting sacks. Granted he should for the $ he's being paid.

Posted by: Lacantwrite | October 18, 2009 9:13 PM | Report abuse

I miss the time when we beat the Cowboys and Eagles on the road and Jim Zorn was the best coach ever... those were some good satisfying times... it seem so long ago. ;(

Posted by: rachel216 | October 18, 2009 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Zorn shouldn't have to take this crap...just save your dignity and quit...

Posted by: mattylight

Tony Dungy said tonight on Football Night in America that the same thing happened to him in Tampa - and he agreed to give up the playcalling. Dungy said it was a big mistake - and that Zorn should not agree - Zorn should tell the Skins either stick with me and my playcalling or fire me.

Posted by: Lisa_R | October 18, 2009 9:14 PM | Report abuse

"I'm just sitting here watching the game film, trying to correct it," Lewis said.

BTW, it's FILM. You can't correct it. Only watch it.

And cry.

"B-27?"

Posted by: nojunk4me | October 18, 2009 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Zorn is in over his head and that's Danny and Vinny's fault. Zorn should never have been made HC in the first place and now they come up with THIS brilliant solution? Unreal. This is a sideshow...

Posted by: luvtheskins428 | October 18, 2009 9:05 PM

Danny and Vinny are over their heads. The fault must be genetic.

Posted by: cannontl | October 18, 2009 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, assume the team does rebuild starting now. What players on offense can be legitimate NFL starters in 2011?
Chris Cooley
Marko Mitchel
?
And they have how many draft 2010 picks?

Posted by: bajadas | October 18, 2009 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Yeah Zorn don't take this shi$, hold your head high and quit...just don't trip over little dan as you keep that head up.

Posted by: pennstate1 | October 18, 2009 9:14 PM | Report abuse

I just crushed the Eagles 44-10 on MNF in Madden '10 on All-Madden difficulty. Moss had 9/162/2TD, and Portis had 13 carries for 88 yds and 2 TDs.
Todd was 22/31 for 363 and 3 TDs, 1 INT
can i please call plays?

Posted by: kman2 | October 18, 2009 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Agree re AH dominating. He was great today...and that roughing penalty was more of the National Tuna League officiating.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 18, 2009 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Danny & Vinny have more than just a business relationship... Could this be what's clouding Dan's judgement about this buffoon? Hmmm

Posted by: chasgiffen | October 18, 2009 9:11 PM | Report abuse

You don't mean Master & BUTT BOY !!

Posted by: dl51 | October 18, 2009 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Zorn presumably would be a major force in creating the game plan, just not calling the plays available for the game, acoberst1.

Posted by: cannontl | October 18, 2009 9:02 PM

That makes sense. Of course, "game planning" for this bunch probably resembles triage more than anything else.

Posted by: acoberst1 | October 18, 2009 9:16 PM | Report abuse

why is everyone on Marko Mitchell's shlong? get off of his shlong everyone, if he were THAT good, he'd be playing. He's obviously not better than DT and MK during practice, and he played well in preseason against UPS drivers. GET OFF HIS SHLONG!

Posted by: kman2 | October 18, 2009 9:17 PM | Report abuse

How sad. Not only are we putrid, but there is absolutely no class left in the organization. Whether or not Zorn is in over his head is beside the point, he still deserves to be treated with respect and class. Either fire him so he can go on with his career/life or let him coach as he is being paid to do. Now they are just trying to embarrass the guy. Classless!

Posted by: rphilli721 | October 18, 2009 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, this will fix it! Maybe in return, Zorn can get Vinny to leave town during all future drafts, and have Snyder stop signing over-the-hill former pro bowlers.

Posted by: Pearl77 | October 18, 2009 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Football is complicated but if your not grounded in common sense you get these type of results. I dont know how much control Zorn has but someone is a f'n idiot. Common sense says that if someone is not performing PUT HIM ON THE BENCH. And Zorn your almighty scheme is some garbage, evident in the fact that we've won 4 of our last 14 games. F your goddamn scheme!!! This is the NFC East so why are we trying to run the West coast anyway. JC no were close to Joe Montana or even McNabb status. It's rediculous. Campbell throws a nice midrange ball but for all the talk about him having a great arm whats the point if his deep ball is mostly inaccurate? His footwork is terrible which I find odd considering he played college basketball. Awkward, no rhythem I've seen white boys dance better. And running out the stadium like a punk when they benched him shows he's a spoild brat. He should be grateful for his chance here. Any other coach(including Gibbs) would of benched him along time ago. Go hard or go home. Put up our shut up. Stuff like that. Collins isn't the answer either but at least he's not a complete spaz.
The rest of the retardation I see is (1)the fact that ARE is still returning punts. If Moss doesnt want to do it put D Hall back there(who in my opinion is only worth his contract when he has the ball in his hand, as he cant consistantly cover) let him earn some of his money. (2)They wont play Marco Mitchell. Why because Clark, Monk, and Sanders are all on a 1000 yard pace again? I have no beef with ARE(his a good possession reciever even thow his legs are gone) or Moss(when he decides to show up) but if Kelly or Thomas cant get open or catch or if JC just doesnt like throwing to them(whatever the problem is) TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT. What do we have to lose?
(3)Keeping Cooley(your #1 reciever) in to block last week was retarded. Yoder could of played that role.
(4) Of course the play calling sucks but so does our time managment. JC always wastes time outs in the 3rd quarter because he to confused or retarded toget the right play in and then we look stupid after the two minute warning. If its not JC its freaking Zorn trying to challenge plays that anyone could see would clearly not be overturned (and yeah he almost did it today when we definatly needed all three time outs).
I respect Portis(even though he is a brown nosing, not practicing, backstabbing punk). If it wasn't for him we wouldn,t of made the playoffs those last two times, but we nedd some speed or at least a double threat third down back.
My last thought is what no one else is saying: Cerrato is not completly worthless(I dont think). If he had anything to do with recruiting our defensive coaches and players since he's been here I would have to say he's done an overall good job on that side of the ball

Posted by: DCBadBoy1 | October 18, 2009 9:19 PM | Report abuse

As fans lets embrace the change since we did not like the play calling from the gate. If this produces better results on offense then we should be happy. Why do we want another high priced coach that might not get the results we want. Give the FO some credit for trying to do something that might help the team. Lets not forget the defense is still top notch, if we could get something from the o then you never know what can happen. I STILL LOVE THE REDSKINS. HAIL

Posted by: wattsicon | October 18, 2009 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Why is everybody so mad? Everyone hated Zorn for his playcalling. Now he's giving them up and everyone is mad?

Posted by: rachel216 | October 18, 2009 9:10 PM

Because the problems with the Redskins go beyond Zorn's play calling and they are not recognizing it.

Well actually for Vinny it may be self preservation, because if he can convince anyone that the problems are largely due to Zorn, then he can feel safer and not own up to all his bad decisions that have helped create the current mess.

Posted by: cannontl | October 18, 2009 9:20 PM | Report abuse

What happened to JC17 is the best possible scenario for him personally, I guarantee you he will say that 5 years from now, when he is on another team and away from the circus at Redskins Park...

Posted by: mattylight | October 18, 2009 9:20 PM | Report abuse

As fans lets embrace the change since we did not like the play calling from the gate. If this produces better results on offense then we should be happy. Why do we want another high priced coach that might not get the results we want. Give the FO some credit for trying to do something that might help the team. Lets not forget the defense is still top notch, if we could get something from the o then you never know what can happen. I STILL LOVE THE REDSKINS. HAIL

Posted by: wattsicon | October 18, 2009 9:20 PM | Report abuse

While Zorn is over his head as a HC right now, and that has been proven, this decision sets a very bad precedent. Zorn, as the HC, should not agree to something that essentially emasculates his authority in the locker room. Better for him to honorably resign. He'll work again in the NFL; he just needs experience.

The point is well taken that the talent on the field is mediocre. And the coaching problems extend beyond Zorn. Bugel bears responsibility, too.

I grew up in Philadelphia. I'm trying to imagine Buddy Ryan reacting to a Norman Braman telling him he could not run his own defense. Guess he would have wound up like Kevin Gilbride...

Posted by: dsda3731 | October 18, 2009 9:20 PM | Report abuse

How sad. Not only are we putrid, but there is absolutely no class left in the organization. Whether or not Zorn is in over his head is beside the point, he still deserves to be treated with respect and class. Either fire him so he can go on with his career/life or let him coach as he is being paid to do. Now they are just trying to embarrass the guy. Classless!

Master & BUTT BOY have no limits !!!

Posted by: dl51 | October 18, 2009 9:20 PM | Report abuse

IMO they are trying to humiliate him into quitting. If they fire him, they have to pay him. If he quits, they don't.

Posted by: hubcap
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Posted by: sugarstreet | October 18, 2009 9:21 PM | Report abuse

I've never seen an NFL O so inept. Maybe one that makes more mistakes qualifying them just as sorry but not this weak. Geez, I bet you could start making comparisons between this O and the 1976 Bucs. The tripped out thing is i've seen more consistent pressure against other O's but somehow they still move the ball or at least present a threat. I know the O line scks and JC holds on to the ball too much but...Dmn Even though I like Zorn, something tells me there's something fundamentally wrong with this scheme besides the players. Could be the square peg players being shoved into a round hole I guess. Opposing D's learned something mid last year and its been all downhill. I guess it needs to be blown up.

Posted by: outsourced_in_va | October 18, 2009 9:21 PM | Report abuse

If Zorn has a droplet of self-respect, he should quit. Alas, there's not much chance for that -- the last year story with Portis and the whole situation with Lewis and today's announcement do not leave much hope. I'd prefer to be wrong here though...

Posted by: fnralch | October 18, 2009 9:21 PM | Report abuse

This suggests that Zorn has been calling plays. It's the first I've heard that the Skins' even have plays.

Posted by: isnadd | October 18, 2009 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Dear God Danny, let Vinny go NOW, and let Zorn go tommorow, next week or yesterday. Doesn't really matter because we are stuck with this bunch of lousy players(at least on Off.). Please Mr. danny, if you read this, by firing the Vin you will be letting the fans know that you finally get it and a real professional personel man is on his way. Getting someone else to call the plays ,as bad as we need it,is like getting a new Bingo caller on the deck of the Titanic! Hmmm could there be a connection there? The season is lost. The chickens have arrived. Time to pay the Piper. You want to hire a new set of eyes? Try Charley Casserly, you remember him. He would be a great set of "new eyes" to help your blind self to find a real football man to head the Skins. You do that and you will be at least heading in the right direction. We the fans love the Redskins and want to support them in every way. Just help us out by making a right choice or two. Would you please?

Posted by: prknguy | October 18, 2009 9:22 PM | Report abuse

IMO they are trying to humiliate him into quitting. If they fire him, they have to pay him. If he quits, they don't.

Posted by: hubcap

Master & Butt Boy ...Geniuses after-all !!

Posted by: dl51 | October 18, 2009 9:25 PM | Report abuse

From the Redskins website:
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The new play-caller will be identified after a Monday morning meeting.

Among the candidates are offensive coordinator Sherman Smith, offensive consultant Sherman Lewis and assistant head coach-running backs Stump Mitchell.
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So Sherm Lewis is in the loop for playcalling after 5 years off? This team is a F*CK*NG joke. It truly is.

Posted by: fnralch | October 18, 2009 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Ahahahahaha. Bugeyes is f_ckin brilliant, a master illusionist I tell ya.

All of us sheep will now divert our attention from the gaping holes in the O-line and put it back on the play-caller that you hired as HC.

Whatta POS.

Posted by: tomfoley1 | October 18, 2009 9:25 PM | Report abuse

kman2- So what if it were 3rd stringers? Marko showed a lot of playmaking ability. The reason why he isn't playing is because this organization is dumb and doesn't know anything. You actually think this organization makes the right decisions?

Give Marko a chance! With this crappy offense, it can't be any worse!! I know Marko will be a starter for us in a few years, yes, I think he is that good and has that much potential!!

Posted by: rachel216 | October 18, 2009 9:26 PM | Report abuse

At this point I think you focus on evaluating the young talent on the team - getting people experience - and evaluating needs for the offseason restructuring.

1) Start Colt Brennan
- Campbell is gone and Collins is too old at this point, we need to know what we have with Brennan in real games.

2) Give ARE the season off - Mitchell should start opposite Moss and Thomas and Kelly should rotate heavily - find out what we have there.

3) Need to make a decision to lose 1-4 running backs in the offseason - possibly all of them except maybe Portis.

4) Clearly we are finding out what we have on the OL youth-wise regardless

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Do that and at least we get some useful information and maybe something that's more fun to watch than 3 hrs of CSPAN...II...

Posted by: mac2j | October 18, 2009 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Telling Zorn he can't calls plays anymore is like telling Balloon Boy he can't play with his balloon anymore.

Yeah, that kinda' makes sense if you think about it.

Posted by: SteveMG | October 18, 2009 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Just heard that Barack Obama will call the plays.

Posted by: AWWNats | October 18, 2009 9:27 PM | Report abuse

BTW, it's FILM. You can't correct it. Only watch it.

And cry.

"B-27?"
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Posted by: nojunk4me

Laughing my arse off!!!! BINGO!

Posted by: gringoinmiami | October 18, 2009 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Cerrato said to Zorn: "I believe you have too much on your plate

Yeah too much on his plate like the captain of the Titanic had.

Posted by: noups | October 18, 2009 9:28 PM | Report abuse

The fans do not deserve to have this classless shill as an owner. He has turned a once proud organization to the laughing stock of the NFL, possibley of major league sports. After soliciting the cheerleaders to washing cars, what kind of nickel and dime crap will Snyder try next? When will it end? What a putz.

Posted by: ratsmoker | October 18, 2009 9:29 PM | Report abuse

1) Start Colt Brennan

Brennan's on the IR and out for the year.


Posted by: SteveMG | October 18, 2009 9:29 PM | Report abuse

Ummm, love the start Colt Brennan idea. Too bad he is on season ending IR and is recuperating from hip joint surgery.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 18, 2009 9:29 PM | Report abuse

How 'bout having a telemarketer phone in the plays?

Posted by: sasquatchbigfoot | October 18, 2009 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Mac2j,

Colt is on IR..... that's like coming back from the dead... it ain't happening!

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | October 18, 2009 9:30 PM | Report abuse

With moves like this, can double digit scoring be far behind????

Posted by: jmeaicp | October 18, 2009 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Tony Dungy said tonight on Football Night in America that the same thing happened to him in Tampa - and he agreed to give up the playcalling. Dungy said it was a big mistake - and that Zorn should not agree - Zorn should tell the Skins either stick with me and my playcalling or fire me.

Posted by: Lisa_R | October 18, 2009 9:14 PM

May have been a mistake for Dungy, but Zorn is no Dungy. Getting Zorn off playcalling will help, assuming his replacement is half-way competent.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 18, 2009 9:31 PM | Report abuse

This suggests that Zorn has been calling plays. It's the first I've heard that the Skins' even have plays.

Posted by: isnadd | October 18, 2009 9:22 PM

Ba-dump! LOL

It's not that this is necessarily a bad move. It just seems rather inadequate in light of the Redskins' dismal circumstances.

I don't believe the Redskins are capable of executing the playbook, regardless of who is calling the plays.

Posted by: acoberst1 | October 18, 2009 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: mac2j | October 18, 2009 9:26 PM | Report abuse

ummm, anybody ever explain to you the IR rules? Colt is done for the year, not an option...

Posted by: zjfr2 | October 18, 2009 9:31 PM | Report abuse

1) Start Colt Brennan
- Campbell is gone and Collins is too old at this point, we need to know what we have with Brennan in real games

Exactly. But he's not on the roster. Maybe we should try Andre Woodson? :)

Posted by: rachel216 | October 18, 2009 9:32 PM | Report abuse

1. Vinnie should never have never been allowed to do more than play racketball....and make coffee and pizza runs.

2. Zorn, like Acta...had ZERO business with ZERO experience being hired as Manager/ Head Coach of a DYSFUNCTIONAL team.

3. Campbell should never have been handed back the QB job after he flushed the 2007 season into the toilet......to then get hurt...... and watch Collins lead them to the playoffs.

Posted by: FletcherChristian1 | October 18, 2009 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Besides relieving Zorn of play calling duties, which will likely be taken over by Sherman Lewis, we're in desperate need of someone to take over as punt return. Besides not having any positive punt returns today, ARE made another poor decision by not faircatching at the 10 that was downed at the Redskins 3 yard line. He muffed another punt which he recovered and nearly dropped a fair catch.

Risking Moss as our punt return on every return may not be the way to go, but D. Hall has returned kicks in the past and others could be given a shot. Our special teams have made at least one big mistake in each of our last 3 games which can't be afforded considering our putrid offense.

Regard QB's, it's painfully obvious that both Campbell and Collins are not going to be effective behind the pathetic offensive line in front of them. Even an elite QB like Brady, Manning, or Brees would have trouble finding an open receiver without a pocket on most plays.

Posted by: wizfan89 | October 18, 2009 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Brennan on I.R. and that means he can't start for this team?

Posted by: kls1 | October 18, 2009 9:33 PM | Report abuse

How sad. Not only are we putrid, but there is absolutely no class left in the organization. Whether or not Zorn is in over his head is beside the point, he still deserves to be treated with respect and class. Either fire him so he can go on with his career/life or let him coach as he is being paid to do. Now they are just trying to embarrass the guy. Classless!

Master & BUTT BOY have no limits !!!

Posted by: dl51 | October 18, 2009 9:20 PM

I agree with you. This organization has no class. It was Danny and Vinny that hired a rookie coach with no OC or HC experience. They should treat him better than this.

Posted by: cannontl | October 18, 2009 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Yes...that's the answer ....A BINGO Strategy !! ...maybe we can market Sherm alternating calling Bingo numbers live and calling plays from the sidelines during the games ..if he mixes up no-one will notice !!.imagine the possibilities !! ..a new revenue stream while the sip is sinking !! awesome !!!

Posted by: dl51 | October 18, 2009 9:34 PM | Report abuse

I don't believe the Redskins are capable of executing the playbook, regardless of who is calling the plays.

Posted by: acoberst1 | October 18, 2009 9:31 PM | Report abuse

EXECUTING Zorn's playbook is exactly what they need to do.... start drawing up plays in the dirt..

CLEGG

Posted by: michael_b_clegg | October 18, 2009 9:34 PM | Report abuse

kls1- Brennan is on IR and not on the 53 man roster so he cannot start for us. But I wish he could.

Posted by: rachel216 | October 18, 2009 9:35 PM | Report abuse

What play to do you call to get a better o-line?

This move is just more proof that skins leadership doesn't get the problem, what next, change the uniforms?

Posted by: cabraman | October 18, 2009 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Brennan on I.R. and that means he can't start for this team?

Posted by: kls1 | October 18, 2009 9:33 PM | Report abuse
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It means he's done for the year. Once you're on IR you can't come off of it.

Posted by: dfbovey | October 18, 2009 9:37 PM | Report abuse

They could sign a relative unknown QB called 'Bolt Crennan'.

Posted by: daggar | October 18, 2009 9:37 PM | Report abuse

I KNOW! Brennan's hurt. He could still play at this team's level even though he's hurt, do you get it?

Posted by: kls1 | October 18, 2009 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Zorn knows that this is his last coaching job in the league. He is over 50 and getting paid (15 million for his contract). That is why he accepting these insults. Like most of the skins players, he likes taking overpaid money from the owner. If he had any self-respect like most head coaches, he should have told Vinny to take this job and shove it after this recommendation. But he won't do that because he wants that money.

Posted by: japark89 | October 18, 2009 9:38 PM | Report abuse

I am waiting for the announcement that Cerrato has agreed to give up making personnel decisions.

Posted by: cabraman | October 18, 2009 9:38 PM | Report abuse

So Sherm Lewis is in the loop for playcalling after 5 years off? This team is a F*CK*NG joke. It truly is.

Posted by: fnralch | October 18, 2009 9:25 PM

Why not? It's par for the course. Snyder thought Pepper Johnson was the perfect guy to teach him the ropes in the NFL.

Posted by: acoberst1 | October 18, 2009 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Why don't they just get it over with and demote Zorn to be the QB coach, or fire him for that matter.

What's the next genious move by Vinnie:
not to handle the offense anymore? I don't care if you resurrected Vince Lombardi and Tom Landry to coach together, the team is done for this year and probably the next.

Posted by: wizard5 | October 18, 2009 9:38 PM | Report abuse

The boy-in-the-balloon is available to call plays.

Posted by: djorl | October 18, 2009 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Since Sonny's retired maybe we could get Norm Snead back from the Eagles !

Posted by: dl51 | October 18, 2009 9:39 PM | Report abuse

From the updated post from Jason, it sounds like Cerrato did not even draw on his "other set of eyes" for his opinion before making this move.

I wonder if his "other set of eyes" would have the guts to say that a large part of the problem is not having the proper personnel to effectively run the offense. Or does Lewis even have the permission to speak in that area?

Posted by: cannontl | October 18, 2009 9:39 PM | Report abuse

LoL. What a freakin' joke.

Posted by: sknyluv | October 18, 2009 9:39 PM | Report abuse

1st of all I apologize to those who took any stock in my guaranteed win. I did not foresee this.

Mostly I just feel for Zorn. I am an obvious sympathizer, but even those who are not cannot feel good about a guy who got his balls cut off in public 1 by 1.

Testicle #1 removed when a bingo calling consultant was called in.

Testicle #2 removed when football genius Cerrato forces him to give up the play sheet.

The thing that really, really bothers me is not that Zorn shouldn't be calling plays, but that Cerrato was so desperate to assert his importance / prove he is doing something that he couldn't wait until mid week and let Jim make an announcement - e.g., my guy that I hired as OC should be play calling, etc. The first late night post game PR of the season, for this? Was it really that urgent?

More proof that this is about Snyderrato saving their butts and winning the PR war. God those two are so pathetic.

Posted by: zornskins2 | October 18, 2009 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Why hasn't Sherm Smith been calling plays? Has he got laryngitis? After 6-2 start in 2008 JZ went through his whole play book and ability to come up with new wrinkles. As HC he might not be completely lost, as OC he has looked lost since 2008. As HC he can worry about time outs and challenges and when to kick FG's. Maybe that is all that he can handle.
I for one applaud this move, it can't get any worse.
And maybe with Lewis, he can play MM and others to see what we have. JZ as OC evidently was never going to try new peeps by his having 4 RB's suit up and try 1 play and done, then back to normal.

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | October 18, 2009 9:41 PM | Report abuse

www.firethedanny.com

Posted by: nigt | October 18, 2009 9:41 PM | Report abuse

I'll call the plays. You can pay me half. I can't do worse and Snyder can save some money.

Posted by: kevnet | October 18, 2009 9:41 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if his "other set of eyes" would have the guts to say that a large part of the problem is not having the proper personnel to effectively run the offense.
Or does Lewis even have the permission to speak in that area?

Posted by: cannontl | October 18, 2009 9:39 PM

Might be a good question for Jason to ask.

Posted by: cannontl | October 18, 2009 9:41 PM | Report abuse

So, now Zorn is gonna be responsible for coaching the QB he just benched AND mismanaging game decisions? Sweet.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 18, 2009 9:43 PM | Report abuse

This latest move begs the question, Is Bugeyes the Midget's bottom or the other way around. Seriously, these two guys must be bangin.

Posted by: tomfoley1 | October 18, 2009 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Testicle #1 removed when a bingo calling consultant was called in.

Testicle #2 removed when football genius Cerrato forces him to give up the play sheet.

Posted by: zornskins2 | October 18, 2009 9:41 PM

Good thing he's only got two of them or this could go on forever.

Posted by: talent_evaluator | October 18, 2009 9:45 PM | Report abuse

I remember attending a Giants - Skins game in NY years ago...they had a plane fly over the field with a banner "15 years of lousy football ..we've had enough" ..and the entire stadium took up the chant ...maybe OBAMA could do a fly-over and promise a bail-out !!

Posted by: dl51 | October 18, 2009 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Calling Obe One Kanobe

Posted by: wizard5 | October 18, 2009 9:45 PM | Report abuse

dickdog tries to figure out what's wrong with the skins: http://www.adventuresofdickdog.com/?p=276

Posted by: ewww | October 18, 2009 9:47 PM | Report abuse

More Steinberg posted confirmation that Cerrato is an abolute tool :

"And so he'll design the game plan, coach the quarterbacks, but Cerrato told me, 'Look, we're just not scoring points, our coach has too much on his plate, and I want him to concentrate on head coaching stuff, not all this other stuff like playcalling.' "

Again: "Just head coaching stuff, not all this other stuff like play calling."

You really cant believably make this kind of stuff up.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 18, 2009 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Hope for '09 Today! Collins (does read progressions), 60.1 rating: Soup, 46.1. Each played a half. Play the best player.... Practice with the starters. Zorn calls enough good plays; however the execution has been sorely lacking. God Willing 15-4 this season. Win the next game!

HTTR, HV!

Posted by: Realness1 | October 18, 2009 9:01 PM |
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Please. Stop. Now. You. Are. An. Idiot.

Posted by: hithere1 | October 18, 2009 9:48 PM | Report abuse

I doubt this will fix anything but I don't see this as I problem. I believe CBS showed a stat that indicated only a handful of teams HC call plays. I believe most are called by the OC who is up in the booth and has a better read on how the plays are developing. However, if the team doesn't block, catch or throw accurate passes it doesn't matter what play is called.

Posted by: lifelongfan | October 18, 2009 9:48 PM | Report abuse

My 8 year old nephew can call plays.

Posted by: wizard5 | October 18, 2009 9:50 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if this means that Zorn also will no longer have decision authority on when or when not to go for it, when or when not to accept a penalty, when or when not to kick a field goal, when or when not to challenge, and when or when not to call timeouts. He's wearing too many hats for all that stuff too. I wonder where our boy pabrian is now?

Posted by: zjfr2 | October 18, 2009 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Sonny Jurgensen will be calling the plays. And maybe playing QB.

Posted by: pundito | October 18, 2009 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Let Tom Cruise call the plays...

Posted by: wizard5 | October 18, 2009 9:51 PM | Report abuse

is it me, or did dude just get fired!

Posted by: bigherb | October 18, 2009 9:51 PM | Report abuse

The point is that Zorn was brought in to mastermind this offense and call plays.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 18, 2009 9:52 PM | Report abuse

"Zorn had too much on his plate."
Indeed. Zorn has a massive cow manure sandwich on his plate.

And Vinny expects Zorn to eat it.

Zack Bolno?!?!?!

Even Raymond Chandler couldn't invent a better name for a "communications director."

"So...uhhh...what we have here is a failure to communicate, uh? I'm tired o' talking' and you not understandin', uh? Next time, I'm gonna have Rocco come over and break both yer thumbs. Capiche??"


Posted by: sasquatchbigfoot | October 18, 2009 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Fire the Vinster

Promote Morrocco Brown to GM

Keep Zorn through the end of the season. Announce it.

Raid other teams practice squads for young talent (it's like starting the draft early!)

Play Marko. Play Aldridge. Play Mason Find out what they have.

You already know what you have with JC, so give Collins a week or two to make his case. He'll never be a permanent starter but maybe he can spread the ball around better and get other players involved in the O (like Marko, DT, Kelly and Davis for example...)

Let Moss return more punts. Let DT return the rest. Let ARE watch punts from the sidelines.

Trade Carlos and Montgomery for what you can get. They are gone anyway.


At the end of the season:

Say goodbye to Zorn. Let the GM hire the next coach.

Say goodbye to Rino, Sellers, Smoot, Daniels, Colt, Samuels, Betts, Rock, and El

See if you can keep Campbell with incentive laden deal but no big money, otherwise say goodbye


Draft for:

O line dominance and depth

Speed at RB

Save first round pick for best available game changing type talent.

Be very selective for FA values

and most of all, BE PATIENT. this will not be fixed in one year


Now get busy.

Posted by: edvar | October 18, 2009 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Rosie O'Donnel can also call plays.

Posted by: wizard5 | October 18, 2009 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Two questions -- 1) does the new OC get to give the OL a map so they can find the end zone? and -- 2) when will advertisers stop describing themselves as "proud sponsors" or "proud partners" of the Redskins?

Posted by: miseaujeu | October 18, 2009 9:53 PM | Report abuse

I am waiting for the announcement that Cerrato has agreed to give up making personnel decisions.

Posted by: cabraman | October 18, 2009 9:38 PM | Report abuse
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They circulated that when Snydely hired him as his lapdog. Vinny just organizes lists of guys who are available and the Danny pins the contract on the donkey.

Posted by: mattsoundworld | October 18, 2009 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Just after another sorry game involving two sorry teams - Redskins and KC Chiefs; CBS switched its viewers to a thriller in Minneapolis between the Vikings and the Ravens. I did a quick mental comparison between the playbooks of Brad Childress, Vickings' head coach and Jim Zorn's and they were night and day. Whereas that of Childress was wide, full and colorful, that of Zorn was small, scant and ugly. That tells me that the Redskins from Snyder down to the players are all a complete joke. How in the world can anybody with any intuition hire Jim Zorn to be an head coach? Only an erratic person like Snyder and his man Vinny could. Zorn is an amiable and a good man but the job of an head coach of a professional football team takes a lot of experience and courage. Z-Man does not have either.

By the way, all those who cried for Collins to be inserted got their wish. The result was still the same. The problem is not with the QB. The problem is that of absence of morale, right personnel and discipline.

Posted by: midas20874 | October 18, 2009 9:54 PM | Report abuse

I agree with an earlier poster. It's bad enough that they are embarrassing Zorn the way they are, but they rush to the media to announce it. Cerato calling Peter King, Public Relations guys talking to this Insider kid. etc. They can't at least allow Zorn to announce that it was his decision? Jeeze. They simply can't do anything right. This is getting so ridiculous it has become almost surreal.

Posted by: themantoyou | October 18, 2009 9:56 PM | Report abuse

To Edvar:

That sounds good, but how many picks are there? Maybe 4 or 5 middle to low rounds?

Posted by: wizard5 | October 18, 2009 9:56 PM | Report abuse

If Zorn has any more of his authority removed, his responsibilities will consist of watering the plants at Redskins Park, addressing Christmas card envelopes and shining Snyder's shoes and the lifts that he sticks in them...

Posted by: randysbailin | October 18, 2009 9:57 PM | Report abuse

We've got a bingo player, a RB coach, and an offensive coordinator who apparently hasn't done anything for the last 18 months to choose from. I can't wait to find out which one will be calling plays next week.

Posted by: james808d | October 18, 2009 9:57 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if this means that Zorn also will no longer have decision authority on when or when not to go for it, when or when not to accept a penalty, when or when not to kick a field goal, when or when not to challenge, and when or when not to call timeouts. He's wearing too many hats for all that stuff too. I wonder where our boy pabrian is now?

Posted by: zjfr2 | October 18, 2009 9:50 PM

The items you mention above would be typical HC functions. Some teams do have OC's for play calling while the HC handles the above.

Posted by: cannontl | October 18, 2009 9:57 PM | Report abuse

So, next week, whoever is wearing the headset is Head Coach?

This is so exciting!

It's gonna be like a cross between Where's Waldo and Titanic!

Hail!

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 18, 2009 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Considering Collins came off the bench w/o prep, I'd say he did O.K.

The true test will be to see how well he does against the Eagles with a full week of prep.

Posted by: wizard5 | October 18, 2009 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Have we not already seen this movie before? It's a Snyder/Cerrato re-run and we know the ending, the HC gets fired.

If I was Zorn I'd have just told Vinny no and made them fire me. Zorn would be out of his misery and they'd have to probably pay him to go away.

This is going to lead to disaster even if Sherman Smith (the alleged OC) calls better plays than Zorn. Until the OL gets fixed, Vince Lombardi in his prime couldn't win with this team.

Posted by: CJMARTIN04 | October 18, 2009 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Well, I'll say it once again. This smells like my name!

Posted by: pharrrrtt | October 18, 2009 10:00 PM | Report abuse

To Edvar:

That sounds good, but how many picks are there? Maybe 4 or 5 middle to low rounds?

Posted by: wizard5 | October 18, 2009 9:56 PM

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So far they have 1,2 4,5 and 7

That's why this is gonna take some time, and why they should be looking to trade guys that are leaving anyway for picks next year. Gotta keep the powder dry.

Posted by: edvar | October 18, 2009 10:00 PM | Report abuse

We are the best, most awesome-est 2-4 team in the league!

HTTR! Win the next 11 to go 12-4! Yeah! Alright! Gonna happen!

Posted by: hithere1 | October 18, 2009 10:00 PM | Report abuse

www.firetheVinster.com

Posted by: wizard5 | October 18, 2009 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Or, maybe, Zorn can continue talking to Campbell's head and "The New Guy" can talk to Collins' head..

And depending upon which one is on the field, you've got your current Offensive Coordinator!

If this works out to be as fun as it sounds, we could try this kinda thing down the road, maybe with one of the remaining fans calling the plays from his seat...

And the camera can pan around until we discover who it is...

And then, we can boo him/her. But it wont matter, because we would have lost anyway, and the fan will have the time of his/her life calling plays.

This could get the attendance back up, too.
If I win the "Magic Headset," I'm going Wildcat!

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 18, 2009 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Greg Williams is looking pretty good right now.

Posted by: cmueller1 | October 18, 2009 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Hope for '09 Today! Collins (does read progressions), 60.1 rating: Soup, 46.1. Each played a half. Play the best player....

HTTR, HV!

Posted by: Realness1 | October 18, 2009 9:01 PM |
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Please. Stop. Now. You. Are. An. Idiot.

Posted by: hithere1 | October 18, 2009 9:48 PM

Posted by: Realness1 | October 18, 2009 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Zorn, Cerrato's fates apparently are intertwined
Posted by Mike Florio on October 18, 2009 9:58 PM ET
Redskins fans, there might be signs of hope in D.C., after all.

We're hearing that there's a strong belief within the Redskins organization that the fates of coach Jim Zorn and V.P. of football operations Vinny Cerrato are tied together.

So if/when Zorn goes, Cerrato could be dumped, too. (There's a chance Zorn would go after the Eagles game next Monday, and that Cerrato wouldn't be fired until after the season ends.)

That might help explain why Zorn and Cerrato will decide tomorrow who'll call the plays for the rest of the year. And why Zorn didn't simply refuse to give up his play-calling function.

The next question becomes who'll call the plays?

If it's not Sherm Lewis, we're not sure who it will be. Mike Holmgren? Joe Gibbs? Dan Snyder?

That said, Zorn should have refused to give up his play-calling duties and forced his termination. Instead, he has now allowed himself to be systematically neutered over the past two weeks, with the addition of Lewis and now the surrender of one of Zorn's core functions.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Thank GOD!!!!!

beeps btw

Posted by: zjfr2 | October 18, 2009 10:03 PM | Report abuse

So I took the under on 12 hours for Zorn to be fired.

I need a ruling... do i win, lose, push or no bet?

Guessing i lose on a technicality.

Posted by: SkinsfaninKaneohe | October 18, 2009 10:03 PM | Report abuse

It will be interesting to see what happens next week if the Eagle blow out Skins anyway (and if it is due mainly to poor O line play).

Posted by: cannontl | October 18, 2009 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Thinker, you are killing me.

Posted by: edvar | October 18, 2009 10:04 PM | Report abuse

So what football team allows the GM to dictate to the head coach who calls plays? Seriously? I hope Zorn takes his dignity and quits.

Posted by: BrokenClipboard | October 18, 2009 10:05 PM | Report abuse

maybe they should also decide who is going to evaluate talent and draft players. vinny is as good at doing that as zorn is at play calling.

Posted by: Phillip258 | October 18, 2009 10:05 PM | Report abuse

I don't quite get this. If they feel this man is not doing his job why don't they just fire him. Eventually they are going to do it anyway. Now his authority is being lessen even more. Next year Daniel Snyder should wise up and clean house from top to bottom and find a coach and general manager and get out of the way and let them bill this team.

Posted by: jjohnblack53 | October 18, 2009 10:05 PM | Report abuse

We've got a bingo player, a RB coach, and an offensive coordinator who apparently hasn't done anything for the last 18 months to choose from. I can't wait to find out which one will be calling plays next week.

Posted by: james808d | October 18, 2009 9:57 PM

or

d) Dan Snyder?

Posted by: acoberst1 | October 18, 2009 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Greg Williams is looking pretty good right now.


Posted by: cmueller1 | October 18, 2009 10:01 PM

Anyone looks good compared to the Danny and Vinny show.

Posted by: cannontl | October 18, 2009 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Sadly, the once proud Redskins organization has become a joke. Anyone who has even casually followed this organization since Snyder took over realizes that he doesn't have a clue how to put a winning team on the field. I don't fault Zorn, who should still be a QB coach. The coaching search that landed Zorn in this position in the first place was like a Three Stooges movie. Remember when Greg Williams was promised the head coaching slot to stay on as Defensive Coordinatory? How'd that work out? The owner's a joke. His organization's a joke. We're stuck w/ this until he sells the team or gets the hell out of the way...

Posted by: randysbailin | October 18, 2009 10:07 PM | Report abuse

I can hear Larry Michaels now...

"Hey, Redskins fans!
How would YOU like to call plays for the Redskins next home game?!

Think you can do a better job, well, prove it!

The first 1,000 fans in their seats this Monday Night will be automatically entered into a raffle to see who gets to be our next "Fan/Play Caller".

That's right, Redskins fans! Tired of the West Coast Offense? Wanna see Randle El run the Wild Cat? Or maybe you just think we could use the element of surprise by punting on 2nd down.

Well, now's your chance. So, remember, come early. We'll all be rootin' for ya

I'm Larry Michaels, thank you for watching the Redskins Nightly News, presented by Geico."

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 18, 2009 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Dead man coaching.

Sean Penn's a great actor but otherwise...well....just read the lines Sean.

Posted by: SteveMG | October 18, 2009 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Hire Dick Chaney as the GM and George W. Bush as the Head coach and let Condi Rice call the plays these three are good a fu***ing up but thay may do better that who's their now. Hay is Coach Mule still around from Anacostia High from the 70's at least he won 2 interhigh championships.

Posted by: mlhkfh | October 18, 2009 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Better darned well be Buges or this is just spitting into the wind.

Posted by: WorstSeat | October 18, 2009 10:09 PM | Report abuse

when it's all said and done, Zorn will be $9 Million richer than he was 2 years ago. so lets stop feeling bad for him right now. If Spurrier, Marty, and Norv's tenures/exits werent a good enough warning for Zorn to anticipate all of this, then shame on him. He'd be an idiot to resign. If i'm Zorn, i'd take anything Snyder/Cerrato give me for the next 2 months, because I know i'm gonna get fired, and get my salary for next season too. After that, he'll probably get a chance to work under Mike Holmgren next season, and maybe even get to be a coordinator on his staff. There, he'll learn how to call plays for real, cause he'll be much more involved in the game plan. Then he'll have another chance as an OC/play-caller in the NFL. He's 55 years old and made $9 Million in 2 calendar years. stop feelin sorry for him.

Posted by: kman2 | October 18, 2009 10:10 PM | Report abuse

New terminology will include a halfback option entitled I24 and a flanker screen called O15.

Let's go Sherm, which ever one of you it is.

Posted by: jnsbear | October 18, 2009 10:13 PM | Report abuse

I'm voting Chief Z for playcaller!

Either that or my buddy Jim Keller, a 48 year old plumber from Bowie, MD. He's got decent seats near the 50 yard line so he'll be able to see the whole field. His seats are basically as good as a coaching booth.

Plus, he agrees with me that we really ought to have gone "WildCat" a couple weeks ago.

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 18, 2009 10:14 PM | Report abuse

skinsfaninkanoehe....which zorn did you bet on?
HC ZORN = lost
OC ZORN = win
QBC ZORN = lost

Posted by: HPYTRKR1 | October 18, 2009 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Or leave it up to Collins.

Vinnie:

"Look, you can either call plays or you can Quarterback. It's up to you. But, you can't do both."

Collins:

"OK, so I'll call plays. Am I allowed to go WildCat?"

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 18, 2009 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Or maybe their will be a Mystery Playcaller...

A guy in Snyder's booth with a Nixon mask on and a headset.

It would at least add some intrigue.

The Post would have a field day, "Who Is This Masked Man?"

And

"Why The Mystery Behind Playcalling For Skins?"

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 18, 2009 10:20 PM | Report abuse

It's gonna be one of the Deactivated Players, Obviously.

They may finally turn to Marko Mitchell.

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 18, 2009 10:21 PM | Report abuse

So what's Zorn going to do, throw bouncy balls at Jason Fumbell and Collins part time?

If I were Andy Reid, I'd run up the score so freaking high on the Skins as payback for past years. And he should - and I hope it does as a big F-U to Dan Snyder and his little grubby man arrogant egotism that's behind this full blown collapse.

Posted by: BrooklynSkins | October 18, 2009 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Marko Mitchell's first playcall...

First down and 10. Redskins on their own 23 yard line after another luke warm return by Rock Cartwright.

Collins drops back... and Punts.

Ball sails about 22 yards before going out of bounds.

High fives all around on O Line.

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 18, 2009 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Marko Mitchell in Post Game Comments...

claims that he would have called a better game, but he couldn't see as well as he'd hoped through the eye holes of the Nixon mask that Danny and Vinnie made him wear.

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 18, 2009 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Zorn way over his head, by gosh.

Campbell...why have we stuck with this guy for so many years, always making excuses for him? He'll never deliver. Nice guy.

With the exception of the DL/LBs, and a couple of other players (TE, maybe SS), blow the team up. They are poisoned. Need a complete change.

Cerrato..nuff said.

Wishful thinking: a lawsuit to bust the NFL monopoly. That is what condemns towns like DC to a generation worth of disgust once an owner like Snyder comes along.

Posted by: sament | October 18, 2009 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Basically,

we've officially gone "Full Retard."

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 18, 2009 10:26 PM | Report abuse

The Three Stooges are back. Danny "Moe" Snyder, Jim "Curly" Zorn, and Vinny "Larry" Ceratto. I can see play calling in the Philly game now. Hey Moe, hey Larry, what do I do on second down and seven from our own 15?

I can hardly wait.

Posted by: Bob22003 | October 18, 2009 10:29 PM | Report abuse

I can just see Vinnie, disguised on the sidelines, donning the coach's headset...

"Hey, Vinnie! You're not fooling ANYONE with the Groucho Marx glasses and mustache! We know it's you, buddy!"

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 18, 2009 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: minorthread | October 18, 2009 10:30 PM | Report abuse

And all on National TV. In front of the Whole World.

Against a Division Rival.

"This is gonna hurt a bit."

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 18, 2009 10:31 PM | Report abuse

lol @ "full retard"

great reference to Tropic Thunder, which IMHO was the funniest movie of '08

Posted by: kman2 | October 18, 2009 10:31 PM | Report abuse

I can see a resemblance between Robert Downey, Jr and Sherman Lewis, if Downey trims his beard a bit and lightens his skin shade a bit.

RD,Jr:

"Wait a minute. What do you mean by 'lightens his skin shade a bit?'"

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 18, 2009 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Gotta Go!

This is the funniest team in the NFL - gotta admit.

Never a dull moment... I mean, unless you include the actual games.

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 18, 2009 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Please stop referring to Zorn, Cerrato, and Snyder as the Three Stooges. The Three Stooges had talent.

Posted by: GABinOdenton | October 18, 2009 10:36 PM | Report abuse

for everyone saying Sherm Lewis could call plays.. He was an OC but, by his own admission, he has never called plays...
They have to find someone from the outside..

pathetic. Vinny should of made this announcement AFTER he found an OC with experience.

Posted by: SkinsneedaGM | October 18, 2009 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Might as well get Jerry Lewis to call the plays.....it doesn't matter anymore.

Posted by: CJakubin | October 18, 2009 10:46 PM | Report abuse

I turned 38 today and have been a Skins fans since being born in PG, growing up in NoVa, and now living in the District. I have decided to STOP watching/supporting this mess, until SNYDER gets a clue. DANNY BOY: please learn how to LEAD as an OWNER. If you are a REAL FAN, you will leave the business and SELL the team, as you have no clue. Go Les Boulez!

Posted by: dcgovtruth | October 18, 2009 10:47 PM | Report abuse


How demeaning. Jim Zorn should have refused and offered to resign. Think about it. Whoever is making the offensive play calls will be the de facto coach.
What difference will any of this make if Campbell and Collins remain the Redskins' quarterbacks?
I feel sorry for Jim Zorn. I think that he is too nice a person to be associated with Dan Snyder.

Posted by: JohnRice | October 18, 2009 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Please stop referring to Zorn, Cerrato, and Snyder as the Three Stooges. The Three Stooges had talent.

Posted by: GABinOdenton | October 18, 2009 10:36 PM
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A very good point.

Posted by: Bob22003 | October 18, 2009 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone catch Zorn's press conference? He sounds like a buffoon, no wonder the players aren't motivated to go out there and play their hearts out.

Posted by: rryan007 | October 18, 2009 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Somebody on here made a GREAT point... Putting aside for a moment the fact that Vinny Cerrato has no business running football operations... the guy they should have hired to coach the team was Gregg Williams. I STILL think they should go get him again and make him head coach next year.

From what I understand, he was GIBBS CHOICE to succeed Gibbs! And if Gibbs can do one think, it would be scouting coaching talent!!

Yes, he didn't do well in Buffalo. But Belichick didn't do well in his coaching career before the Pats.

The reason they let Williams go was that he had the football resume and credibility to actually challenge Van Snyrroto on its BS. In other words, these guys are so insecure and such control freaks that they would NEVER hire someone like Williams who would stand up to them.

But getting back to the GM question, same thing. Specifically, Dan would never hire a general manager with a track record because he does not want to give up control - and any good GM will insist upon control.

In other words, Dan purposefully seeks out smart, talented but inexperienced people he can push around and manipulate (Vinny Goombats, Zorn, etc.). In other words, it's not that he's accidentally putting together a crappy football organization... it's that he's doing it on purpose! Just so he can maintain complete control and never feel uncomfortable - like when Marty used to stand up to him!

And that's what makes his ownership of the team evil in nature up to this point.

It's completely ignorant. Hopefully it'll change. I ain't holding my breath.

Posted by: riggosmohawk | October 18, 2009 11:19 PM | Report abuse

Jason you gotta get on the ball man. You just got scooped.

Lindsay Czarniak of NBC4 says via her Twitter that Sherman Lewis will call plays for the Skins next week.

Posted by: CJMARTIN04 | October 18, 2009 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Zorn really is not the number one problem. Maybe he would be the number one reason that they could not win a championship, but he is far from being the number one problem for why they are 0-4 against previously winless teams.

That said, what with Zorn getting up there and blaming himself and saying that it is his fault -- even though it clearly is not -- maybe he is the problem after all. If he can't find it in himself to kick the players in the a**, like they need to be, and is kicking himself instead, then he really is clueless.

Besides, there is NO ONE ELSE who is willing to come here to coach, except maybe some moron "ball coach" or some high school coach. Even when Marty was hired, at that time, 90 percent of the coaches out there would not come here for anything. After Marty was fired, the percentage of coaches who absolutely, positively would NEVER come here increased to about 99.99 percent. NO ONE WANTS TO WORK FOR SNYDER.

Even if you fire Zorn, you're not going to find any better coaches. Hell, Zorn is the coach only because no one else wanted the job.

Posted by: ooyah32 | October 18, 2009 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Just give the headset to Dan Snyder already and let him call the plays.

Posted by: wiz_fan | October 18, 2009 11:37 PM | Report abuse

Can someone else be in charge of calling timeouts and making challenges?

How about blocking? Or while we're at it, returning punts?

Posted by: jctichen | October 18, 2009 11:38 PM | Report abuse

I beat the Chiefs 48-7 on Madden. Let me call the plays. Yea, that's the ticket!

Posted by: VegasJim | October 18, 2009 11:43 PM | Report abuse

New play caller, how bout some different players to actual execute the plays?

Posted by: VegasJim | October 18, 2009 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Well, J-Z is done. The HOVA of NOVA is toast! H to the izzo, V to the izzay, will never cizall another plizay!

Posted by: 20yrskinfan | October 18, 2009 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Maybe they could have a different celebrity call the plays each week. Next week could be say, Brooklyn Decker or somebody.

Posted by: josettes | October 19, 2009 2:22 AM | Report abuse

Do Snyder and Vinny realize this classless move in conjunction with all their other classless moves makes getting someone of high quality as coach or GM nearly impossible?????

They don't want to fire him bc they don't want to have to honor his three year contract. A-holes. Snyder makes enough money from parking to cover his salary and still is playing these games. Just pathetic!

Has anyone ever seen Snyder in public in DC? I sure as hell wouldn't want to be his security detail...lol. I know I would heckle the hell out of him.

Posted by: rphilli721 | October 19, 2009 3:10 AM | Report abuse

That's It!

Marketing Genius at Work!

Celebrity playcalling! Like the Hollywood Squares!

Zorn picks one of the celebrities in Snyder's booth and whatever play they have already pre-selected, we run.

Zorn, Monday night:
"Oh Gosh, Red Zone. Well, you know what I'm gonna do? Since Tom Cruise got us down here with that great call, I'm gonna go with Ovechkin - he's a scorer. Whatcha got for us, Ovy?"

Posted by: Thinker_ | October 19, 2009 4:59 AM | Report abuse

Zorn is a complete moron and to say he is not the problem is really not understanding the dynamic of the Skins. Yes, Snyder is the problem as well, but it is not like the whole world does not know how Snyder handles the team and coaches. Zorn makes awful decisions, his play calling is the laughing stock of the league, and he stands on the sideline with the same puzzled stupid look every week when he gets the team in the same scenerios and fails miserably. How about the press conferences and how much of a complete idiot he makes himself out to be. Sometimes I have to play back the video about a dozen times to get it thru my head that he actually said what I heard him say. "The offense is getting better", "the special teams were great and we held onto the ball". This after ARE fumbled a punt out of bounds and we had a punt blocked? Maybe he blacks out during the game and has dreams that these things are true and when he wakes up, he believes it to be reality? How many times have we not had time outs at the end of the game or end of the half? How many times do we run the same play, the same damn stretch play, knowing we have no offensive line and our running backs are mediocre? I can give at least 20 examples of his horrible play calling, but just google Zorn and his play calling and you can read the thousands of articles making fun of him. He should have never accepted the position in the first place, because now he has ruined his career. If he would have taken the O coordinator position first for a few years and worked directly under a good head coach, (not as Holmgren's QB Coach where he is not part of the game planning), than he could have risen thru the ranks as it should be done. Zorn is to blame for taking the job in the first place and not realizing what he was getting himself into. He decided to take a job as a head coach under a domineering owner and he had no experience on being a head coach, plus no experience with dealing with tough ownership. Even the greatest of head coaches will have a tough time dealing with Snyder, and everyone including Zorn has known this for ten years, so he made his bed and now has to sleep in it. So long Zorn, don't let the door hit ya in the rear!

Posted by: cbage5 | October 20, 2009 10:41 PM | Report abuse

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