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Posted at 12:05 AM ET, 12/22/2010

For the record, Nina Totenberg loves Christmas; Blogs portray NPR commentator as combatant in War on Christmas

By The Reliable Source




Nina Totenberg, 2005. (Alex Wong/Getty Images for Meet the Press)/ Kris Kringle in 'Miracle on 34th Street.' (20th Century Fox)

Breaking news: Nina Totenberg does not hate Christmas!

The NPR legal correspondent created a web frenzy with a seemingly dismissive reference to the holiday on "Inside Washington" last weekend. During a debate about tax cuts and the omnibus bill, Totenberg threw in an off-hand anecdote:

"I was at -- forgive the expression - a Christmas party at the Department of Justice," she said, going on to explain how guests there were worried about the impact of spending cuts.

"Forgive the expression"? Another salvo in the War on Christmas! Conservative bloggers jumped all over Totenberg, accusing her of a liberal, politically-correct agenda: "Totenberg and her ilk. . .are making a conscious and deliberate effort to scrub the religious meaning from the winter holidays, because Christmas instills confidence in a particular religious movement they fear and despise," opined John Hayward on the Human Events blog. Many noted suspiciously that her comment aired during Friday's broadcast of the show on public television -- but disappeared by Sunday's rebroadcast on WJLA.

Let's go to the video tape: Totenberg's quote comes in the midst of a complex examination of the federal deficit with fellow panelists and moderator/executive producer Gordon Peterson. "I didn't even notice it," he told us Tuesday. The reason her remark didn't appear on Sunday's show? Panelists tape additional commentary for the public television version that is routinely edited out to make room for commercials on Sunday. Happens every week; no conspiracy here.

Plus, added a puzzled Peterson: Nina adores this season. Years ago, when they taped the show in a studio with a piano, she and Carl Rowan would belt out carols every December. "I know she loves Christmas," Peterson said. "I've seen her at Christmas parties -- if you'll pardon the expression."

Then we reached Totenberg herself during her "Christmas vacation" (her term) in Jamaica. Turns out her critics got it completely wrong: She was, she says, defending Christmas. The DOJ celebration was officially dubbed a "holiday" party, and she was gently mocking that generic designation. "I think that's kind of silly because it's obviously a Christmas party," she told us. "I was tweaking the Department of Justice. It was a touch of irony at the expense of the Justice department, not at the expense of Christmas."

As for the bloggers who were so quick to judge -- without bothering to ask her what she meant: "Jeesh, these folks need a life -- and perhaps a touch of the Christmas spirit, as well."



More: Hear Totenberg's controversy-starting comment... or watch it.

By The Reliable Source  | December 22, 2010; 12:05 AM ET
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Conservatives rushed to condemn something without getting all the facts and turned out to have been completely wrong? Wow, how can that be.

Posted by: sarahabc | December 22, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Nina is a total hypocrite and a Grinch as well. Another NPR person who is totally out of touch!

Posted by: liberalview21 | December 22, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

It's this special time of the year that I always love to curl up on the couch next to a beautifully decorated Christmas tree, sip a mug of delicious egg nog and crank up Spinal Tap's Christmas With the Devil on the stereo.

Posted by: Candressuhmoose | December 22, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Listen, you can't have it both ways. Either you want Christmas to be an American holiday that everyone celebrates, or a Christian holiday that Christians celebrate. If it's the former, lighten up, if it's the latter, you can't expect everyone to care so much about Christmas and want it in their face all the time because.....gasp!.....not all Americans are Christians!

Posted by: maurban | December 22, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Republicans have nothing to offer America except silly distractions.
Fox Noise pundits bashed Janet Napolitano this week for her misspeak citing Homeland Security is monitoring "24/7, 364 days a year."
Fox spent lots of airtime discussing her goof - omitting the 365th day.
Fox Buffoons!

Posted by: angie12106 | December 22, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

". . . the bloggers who were so quick to judge -- without bothering to ask her what she meant."

Well, now she knows how it feels to be Sarah Palin, who gets treated that way on a regular basis. And not just by bloggers.

Posted by: gdalfonzo | December 22, 2010 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Conservatives like to think of themselves as a combination of John Wayne (the most successful draft dodger in WWII) and the Marlboro Man (dead from pimping his own product) but in truth, they have become a gaggle of whining snot nosed punks who grasp at the mantle of victimization at every opportunity. Their phony “war on Christmas” is just one example and there are countless others. They like to use issues that cause intense gut reactions among their ignorant fellows, so religion and phony patriotism are good ones to flog. If they would get off their sorry butts and do something positive instead of look under rocks for things to complain about everybody would be a good deal happier. Of course, they could just go away, and then everybody else would be ecstatic.

Posted by: ElectricBill | December 22, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

What's the big deal? She is Jewish is she not? It's not an assault on christmas, she just doesn't celebrate it! Are we really having a discussion about this, SERIOUSLY? Conservatives need to get over themselves!

Posted by: Angryman | December 22, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Righties are indoctrinated to respond negatively to certain trigger words. Forget the content - Righties bash NPR simply by hearing or seeing the acronym because their masters tell them what to think.

Posted by: angie12106 | December 22, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Just one more reason to re-up at my NPR station and get a "Nina Totin' Bag" - an actual piece of merchandise promoted on air in underwriting announcements.

Posted by: mattintx | December 22, 2010 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: angie12106

Republicans have nothing to offer America except silly distractions.
Fox Noise pundits bashed Janet Napolitano this week for her misspeak citing Homeland Security is monitoring "24/7, 364 days a year."
Fox spent lots of airtime discussing her goof - omitting the 365th day.
Fox Buffoons!
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But when Sarah Palin refered to our North Korean ally, Fox just laughed it off as a goof. Fair and balanced indeed!


Posted by: mencik | December 22, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

We have a vast budget deficit. This is an easy call. Time to shut the funding down for NPR. Merry Christmas Totenberg.

Posted by: Desertdiva1 | December 22, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Funding cuts coming next year, for this biased nonsense.

Posted by: moebius22 | December 22, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Wow, isn't the idea to read the article before you comment? Or can many of you just not read consecutive words in a way that they have some kind of meaning? Because it's the Justice Dept. that hates Christmas, not her!

Posted by: mike8 | December 22, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Typically inane explosion from typically inane faux Christians who have an axe to grind with NPR. Welcome to the faux culture wars.

Posted by: bloommarko4 | December 22, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

sarahabc wrote: "Conservatives rushed to condemn something without getting all the facts and turned out to have been completely wrong? Wow, how can that be."

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Oh BS! Liberals would be raising Hell about such a thing if the shoe was on the other foot. Liberals have an equal tendency to be just as reactionary without finding out the facts as well.

Posted by: liberalsareblind | December 22, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

We started having holiday parties at my office when we hired a Jewish person. It's not a big deal to us, but it is to her. She doesn't seem to mind that I go over to my sister's house for Christmas. Didn't the Christians move the celebration of Christ's birthday so that it coincided with the traditional, read heathen, Winter solstice celebrations anyway? One other thing is that I would like to thank the people of Jewish heritage for all of the great Christmas carols they have written over the years; we could do it without them but it sure does enhance the experience with them.

Posted by: ThomasFiore | December 22, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

What kind of "Christians" are the various commentors:

Cultural Christians: Those who want to maintain their Christian heritage even though they may not hold any Christian beliefs.

Political Christians: Those who think that an unwritten requirement for public office is to profess deeply held Christian beliefs.

Posted by: rbsher | December 22, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

sarahabc wrote: " Conservatives rushed to condemn something without getting all the facts and turned out to have been completely wrong? Wow, how can that be."

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Oh BS! You liberals would be raising Hell about such a thing if the shoe was on the other foot. Liberals have a strong tendency to be just as reactionary without finding out the facts as well, especially when it's an accusation involving a conservative.

Posted by: liberalsareblind | December 22, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

When you've got all the conservative whiners and manipulators crying the blues and fabricating a falsehood, then you've done well.

They're just upset they can't control it like they do Fox. Whine, whine away. Love it.

Posted by: ScottChallenger | December 22, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Some so called "Christians"should heed the Bible: judge not, lest ye be judged.

Posted by: jp1943 | December 22, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Conservatives that make up the American Taliban need to get a life. Mullah Omar couldn't be prouder.

Posted by: mjwies11 | December 22, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

The holidays truce is so fragile that anything can set the belligerents to warring again.

Posted by: blasmaic | December 22, 2010 10:38 AM | Report abuse

'Posted by the Reliable Source'? Why don't you get a backbone, ladies, and post this with your name? Or was it you, Roxanne? Maybe it was, and you just were too lazy to put the Full Disclosure note that you participate in "Wait, Wait" as a panelist? The sooner the Post wises up and cuts the position you chuckleheads have by half, the better. And to think Lloyd Grove covered such a tremendously challenging beat ALL BY HIMSELF- the guy was obviously some kind of superman.

Posted by: steelers_rule123 | December 22, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Really? Seriously? Are Christian conservatives that sensitive to any and every comment about their religion, no matter how insignificant? Are they that worried that even the slightest slight will undo their religion? These displays are actually just affections of faith.

Posted by: wireknob | December 22, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

We have a vast budget deficit. This is an easy call. Time to shut the funding down for NPR. Merry Christmas Totenberg.

Posted by: Desertdiva1
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NPR is the most trusted and the most reliable news service in this country and if you do not know that then you are a complete moron. GOT IT? I am a taxpayer too and I have had to spend a trillion dollars invading a country that did not need to be invaded. At least with the money spent on NPR I know what I am getting. Ignorant little twits like you disgust me and I am no longer going to read your posts and not respond.

MORON.

Posted by: nyrunner101 | December 22, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Nina is the best SCOTUS reporter there is. Conservatives are idiots. Get over it. There will be Xmas this year.

Posted by: jckdoors | December 22, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Typical leftist NPR - the fact that America's Taxpayer are supporting this socialist, anti-western, anti-democracy station is desgraceful. They are free to broadcast, but on their own funds.....I'm sure Soros, MOveon.org and the Democratic Party would be more than happy to fund this leftist/socialist station.

The GOP has already made clear the de-funding of NPR is at the top of their list come January - Good Riddance!

Posted by: Realist201 | December 22, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

nyrunner101 wrote: NPR is the most trusted and the most reliable news service in this country and if you do not know that then you are a complete moron. GOT IT? I am a taxpayer too and I have had to spend a trillion dollars invading a country that did not need to be invaded. At least with the money spent on NPR I know what I am getting. Ignorant little twits like you disgust me and I am no longer going to read your posts and not respond. MORON.
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Pout, pout, stamp stamp. Feel better now? I've already written both my Senators after the Juan Williams incident and requested that the new Congress defund NPR. Nina's little goof only adds to the amusement. I'm not a conservative and I'm not in favor of the war. So please don't consider that I want my tax dollars spent on Iraq and Afghanistan. Yet I also don't care for my tax money being spent on NPR either.

Posted by: Desertdiva1 | December 22, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Christians are quite the egotists. They complain of a war on Christmas, when Christmas was originally a war on pagan celebrations of the winter solstice. Its no coincidence that Christmas is celebrated at this time.

Ever wondered about where the 12 days of Christmas came from? In Scandinavia, the Norse celebrated Yule from December 21, the winter solstice, through January. In recognition of the return of the sun, fathers and sons would bring home large logs, which they would set on fire. The people would feast until the log burned out, which could take as many as 12 days.

I could go on but you get the point, right? Everyone should just go and enjoy themselves this time of year, whichever holiday they choose to celebrate.

Posted by: Frazil | December 22, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Hmm, let's see ...

Juan Williams, NPR personality, makes an off-the-cuff comment about people dressed in "Muslim attire" on a cable TV show and he is fired, excoriated, and publicly ridiculed.

Nina Totenberg, another NPR personality, makes an off-the-cuff comment about a Christian holiday on another TV show and she is .... wait for it! ... praised, defended, and her accusers ridiculed.

Nah, no double standard there! Of course, double standards are what the clueless Miz Snottenberg and the left-wing NPR specialize in.

Posted by: braunt | December 22, 2010 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Conservatives of all stripes merely want to discredit NPR and all independent, rational thinkers - whether supported by private contributors, corporate benefactors or the government. Conservatives' sheep mentality is anathema to the American spirit and certainly not in keeping with "the Season of joy and love". As usual, the Conservatives have shown us yet another example of their hypocrisy. Please,, Conservatives, be quiet for a moment and engage in some introspection. You're outbursts over anything slightly different from your world view are becoming nothing more than noise, and it's very annoying to those of us doing our best to be respectful of you and to live our lives as productively and peacefully as possible...but I, for one, have just run out of patience. Hell hath no fury like a Liberal out of patience.

Posted by: eal1 | December 22, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Totenberg is vile.

Posted by: thebump | December 22, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

I don't think conservative are jumping to conclusions/over reacting at all. I think it is just conservatives pointing out exactly what liberals are. Christmas will come next year and she say the same thing next year. Why should anyone ever ask for forgiveness prior to saying "Christmas Party"? Not a war on Christmas, a war on Christianity. Merry Christmas everyone..

""I was at -- forgive the expression - a Christmas party at the Department of Justice," "

Posted by: vatownsend | December 22, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Ooops - typo corrected: Your outbursts over anything slightly different from your world view are becoming nothing more than noise, and it's very annoying to those of us doing our best to be respectful of you and to live our lives as productively and peacefully as possible...but I, for one, have just run out of patience. Hell hath no fury like a Liberal out of patience.

Just want to add that name calling and belittling one's opponent on a personal basis is a great indicator of the lack of merit of one's argument - you go, Conservatives!

Posted by: eal1 | December 22, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

HOW THE GRINCHES REPUBLICANS ARE TRYING TO STEAL CHRISTMAS - YOU ALL SHOULD BE ASHAME OF YOURSELVES!

I find it very interesting that Senator John Kyl (R-AZ) had the galls to criticize the Democratic Senate for "Proposing START Treaty debates just before Christmas." Oh, I am so sorry Senator that the urgent business of the nation is taking too long for you -- I know you have so many Christmas stockings waiting for you in Arizona stuffed with goodies from Big Oil, large Corporations, and Banks. This is just a THANK YOU for the good work you are doing holding up important pieces of legislation for the average blue collar-middle class Americans.

So, Senators Kyl, Coburn (R-OK), Alexander (R-TN), DeMint (R-SC), all are trying to KILL THE BILL (Sounds like something from a movie) that will provide medical and financial assistance to the First Responders. Their argument is that it costs too much money and will add to the debt -- which is a bogus lie I might add. Do your fact checking Senators -- this bill pays for itself and the price tag is pale in comparison to the recent $800 billion your boy McConnel (R-OK) negotiated with the president and it passed and was signed into law. I didn't hear any Republicans complaining about how much this run-away bill would add to the defict? I didn't hear tou Republicans complain that $800 billion Stimulus Bill does nothing to create jobs and is looked upon as a tax cut Christmas present to billionaires and millionaires, some of your favorite Grinches I might add.

REPUBLICANS - PASS THE RESPONDERS BILL TODAY!

Every New Yorker and concerned American should call their respective senators and jammed their phone lines and tell these Grinches to pass the Responders Bill Today. The hypocrisy being committed by these Grinches is an afront to what the true meaning of Chritmas is all about. May I remind these hypocritical Republicans what the Bible teaches about Compassion and Servitude:

Matthew 25:41-45 (King James Version)

41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

42For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

43I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

44Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

45Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.


Posted by: djoh1226 | December 22, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Good reason to defund NPR. Let these weasel's like her be supported by the left wing kooks. Who cares what she says. We, the rest of the nation that is sane, don't want to pay for lunatics like her anymore. And btw, get used to it Nina, this is who kooks like you have treated Palin and we conservatives are going to bash you and bash the liberals and demand defunding, by twisting and turning everything you kooks say into another reason to defund your a@@. Get a real job Nina, or write a book if you can. I don't care the proceeds of your worthless book won't be enough to live on.
How about cleaning floors at the Socialist party headquarters?

Posted by: rickshawjim | December 22, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Conservatives. Bah, humbug.

Posted by: COLEBRACKETT | December 22, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

It is pretty sad when your mindset is such that you have to apologize for using the expression "Christmas party".

Posted by: Benson | December 22, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

It really is too bad that conservatives, posting here and blogging elsewhere, try and demean Nina Totenberg based on incorrect information and bad assumptions.

Of course, that seems to be the general manner in which they operate. I've yet to see Fox and conservative bloggers admit their many errors in pushing the fake ACORN story. They got caught in the Shirley Sherrod escapade....but remained unrepentant.

Nina Totenberg is one of the very best reporters in the business. She makes Charles Krauthammer (who some give credit for being a smart man, but I find more than a little prickly) look like a schoolboy.

One poster here says "now she [Totenberg] knows how it feels to be Sarah Palin, who gets treated that way on a regular basis."
Oh please!

Totenberg is smart. She does her homework. Her reporting on the Supreme Court has won her numerous, numerous awards. But conservatives don't like her because she reports the truth, she does it well, and she is consistently honored for it.

Palin, on the other hand, may be manipulative and hypocritical, but won't get an invite to Mensa anytime soon. She doesn't work hard, and she bailed out of the governorship of Alaska halfway through her term. Her whole life, it seems, is based on illusion; it's a charade.

Once again, the conservative character -- if it can be called that -- is exposed for what it really is.

Posted by: mcrockett1 | December 22, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

I don't get it.

Posted by: ozpunk | December 22, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

The fact that this misguided criticism of an innocent offhand comment even happened, and that we are all discussing it online, shows the dark underbelly of both the internet and of the American psyche.

Posted by: NCDem1 | December 22, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

I hope NPR does an expose on all of the $$$'s federal agencies spend on religious events-like X-mas parties.The teabagers should be up in arms about all of that tax money going down the tubes!- but no, let's all believe in mythology and things that are scientifically impossible- like a 'virgin birth'!! LOL!!!

Posted by: 10bestfan | December 22, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

I can't help but wonder if the Washington Post would work this hard to clear a Conservative's name in a similar situation.

Regardless of how ridiculous this "controversy" may be (after all, we're facing a massive deficit that gets less airtime than Nina Totenberg's holiday preferences), I'm glad that the Post has cleared the air.

Posted by: diehardlib | December 22, 2010 11:17 AM | Report abuse

So this is what conservatism has been reduced to. What once was a rational intelligent argument on the desirability of a smaller, more efficient government that jealously guards public funds against the corrupt power lusting of entrenched bureaucracies, now sits around at their computer screens scanning for salvos in the culture wars.

How utterly silly the right has become. They seem so focused on the trivialities of the culture war, that they don't seem to realize that right under their nose they are losing the initiative the election victory gave them. While they obsess on such silliness, Obama grows stronger by the day. Indeed, the conservatives seem to be borrowing a page from the liberal democratic playbook and are deeply involved in the chapter on snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Posted by: jaxas70 | December 22, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

I think rickshawjim has become unhinged from overindulging in Fox fear and hate;

Don't worry brother, open your mind, you can still be helped, it's not too late.

Trade in Limbaugh and Beck and Levin, give up the Fox, and fast seal the gate;

Slide on over to PBS and NPR, where you'll soon find their news is really first-rate.

Happy Holidays. And Merry Christmas.

Posted by: mcrockett1 | December 22, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

"I was at -- forgive the expression - a Christmas party at the Department of Justice."

For those of you too stupid to read, this is what is known as irony or sarcasm. See, the author means the opposite, and in this case is mocking people who get bent out of shape over hearing the word "Christmas." Totenberg was defending the right to say Christmas. The knee-jerk wrath of the right-wing is not only predictable, but usually misplaced.

Posted by: SageThrasher | December 22, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Not one penny of "public money" should be expended paying Totenberg's salary or benefits.

Posted by: gun313 | December 22, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

ChickaBOOMer: I Saw Nina Kissing Santa Claus
http://chickaboomer.blogspot.com/2010/12/i-saw-nina-kissing-santa-claus.html

Posted by: StewartIII | December 22, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Conservative Republicans have become the "party of umbrage". Remember when liberals used to be accused of "whining" about every minor verbal offense uttered by the other side? That has now turned 180 degrees.

Posted by: jksesq1 | December 22, 2010 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Have you heard? The same people who criticized Totenberg (and even I-- far from a genius-- saw her meaning as soon as I read the article) are now criticizing stores and other businesses that try to profit from Christmas, saying it commercializes (and dimishes the true meaning of) a religious holiday. They pointed out that Wal-Mart is not the only store that sells Christmas decorations from Communist China! Oh, didn't that happen? I wish more people would be worried about who has the true Christmas spirit.

Posted by: Sutter | December 22, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

perhaps Nina enjoys christmas but is probable aware like millions of others that the religions behind it is a scam a total fraud a major hokus/pokus game!

Posted by: willemkraal | December 22, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Just more GOP pandering to the ... forgive the expression .... religious right (aka the hypocritical wrong).

Posted by: 809212876 | December 22, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

She can try to walk back the comment all she wants. We all know what she meant. It is sure handy to have the WP vouch for you and explain away the gaffe. At the same time a bunch of WP reporters are distorting Haley Barbour's innocent comment and then going berserk over the false characterization they fabricated in their attempts at trying to fabricate another maccaca controversy. So why are we reading this useless fishwrapper? Good thing it is free. It still isn't worth the money, though.

Posted by: beachbum09 | December 22, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

The simple fact is most conservatives aren't very bright.

Posted by: rcasero | December 22, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

First and foremost, this particular issue the so-called "war" is such a freaking stupid thing.

Maybe you guys will get this if you listen very carefully. I'll try to use words of no more than two syllables.

You see, folks, there are lots and lots and LOTS of cities and towns in this country that, GASP!, have significant portions of their populations that are (and I know this will also surprise you) not Christians! Who knew, who knew?

So if you are like me, who grew up in a county that counts among its population a significant number of people of the Jewish faith, and so you grow up and are taught that there are other religions that people practice. So, at an early age, you learn that there are folks that celebrate different religions from you and your family.

That being said, saying "Happy Holidays" is just a matter of politeness. It's never meant to disparage any one.

My my, you guys are touch
As to you two clownshoes:

We have a vast budget deficit. This is an easy call. Time to shut the funding down for NPR. Merry Christmas Totenberg

Posted by: Desertdiva1 | December 22, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Funding cuts coming next year, for this biased nonsense.

Posted by: moebius22 | December 22, 2010 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Oh OK, I forgot. Because you're conservatives, you apprently feel that anything that you don't like should be gotten rid of.

First and foremost, any subsidy to NPR will make a negligble imapct on any deficit that we are running. That being said, and presuming that you are intelligent folks, your motivation is not completely honest. Admit it, you just don't like NPR. Could it be that organizations such as NPR report pure news, and you're afraid of people having access to facts that aren't directly derived from Fox news.

All of that being said, give it a rest. Please. It's becoming more and more apparent to a lot of folks that those that call themselves conservatives have nothing to offer this country to move it forward.

Why don't you start trying to solve problems, instead of holding your breath and turning blue whenever you don't like - oh wow, I guess you all don't turn blue, do you? I'll have to check into that.

Posted by: JohnDinHouston | December 22, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

I choose to think she explained the intent of her comment truthfully. Right now it seems to be open season on NPR although I tend to agree with many of the critics. I feel many of those that are not friends of NPR are being unfair and critical for the sake of being critical.

Posted by: jjlewis1 | December 22, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Isn't the tradition at NPR to fire people without asking them for explanation? Jeesh I wonder why she still has a job.

Posted by: krush01 | December 22, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Why can't conservatives get upset about real issues, rather than contrive one?

Posted by: jckdoors | December 22, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Basically, this is a case of conservative over-reaction to a witty, ironic comment. If you understand irony, which apparently many of us do not, then you know that the comment she made was a reference to the fact that the Justice Dept. calls their party a "holiday" party, not a "Christmas" party, and she was defending the notion that is was actually a Christmas party despite the PC label. I'm surprised at the over-reaction, and just amazed that some folks cannot get over their "outrage" at this perceived slight. Get over it people! You don't understand irony? I don't know who can help you. But don't express misguided outrage at the reporter or NPR because you are clearly just looking for a reason to bash both. Try to see the real point here: She was making a nuanced comment pointing out the surreality of political correctness. That's it. She wasn't anti-christmas in the least - just the opposite! Nuance. Irony. Dig it...

Posted by: dug2008 | December 22, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Waa? Did I just read John Hayward refer to Christmas as "the winter holidays"?

Better yet comments like these;

"Funding cuts coming next year, for this biased nonsense." Posted by: moebius22


Typical leftist NPR - the fact that America's Taxpayer are supporting this socialist, anti-western, anti-democracy station is desgraceful. They are free to broadcast, but on their own funds.....I'm sure Soros, MOveon.org and the Democratic Party would be more than happy to fund this leftist/socialist station.

The GOP has already made clear the de-funding of NPR is at the top of their list come January - Good Riddance!" Posted by: Realist201about


LOL All about a show that also has Charles Krauthammer on it.

Posted by: timothy2me | December 22, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse


I do not for one moment believe that my personal savior Christ Jesus would attend a "Holiday Party." But he would be the life of the party if it were called a "Christmas Party."

Posted by: motorfriend | December 22, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

FWIW, I've invited Jews to my Christmas celebratons and Christmas dinners and they seemed to enjoy them. I've never been invited to a Hannukah celebration. Why is that?

Posted by: Baltimore11 | December 22, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand what generated the uproar. She didn't slam Christmas with her comment. But even if she had, so what? People are entitled to their opinions. And isn't she Jewish?

Posted by: CAmira5 | December 22, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

JohnDinHouston wrote: All of that being said, give it a rest. Please. It's becoming more and more apparent to a lot of folks that those that call themselves conservatives have nothing to offer this country to move it forward.
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I'm a moderate not a conservative. Democrats see Conservatives and Tea Party members behind every bush and around every corner. I do give thanks to that end of my party for their service. You guys have angered America not just conservatives.

If you did any research on NPR you will learn that a funding ban would do very little to NPR itself. What will hit NPR hard is individual donors refusing to give which has already been started. The independent stations are a different story. They will die without govt funding as their budgets are dependent on federal funding. So a ban directive from both directions was necessary.

Posted by: Desertdiva1 | December 22, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

JOYEUX NOEL!

In 1914, French and German soldiers put aside their guns, left their trenches and celebrated Christmas together, exchanging gifts and singing carols.

The attitude of "live and let live" caught on to such an extent that the officers had to foment the will to fight by leading the cannon fodder troops on raiding parties.

Eventually, the troops fought to the bitter end, even though they didn't know what they were fighting for.

The phony "War on Christmas" conservatives are just like those commanding officers, trying to cause a fight where there is no cause to fight.

Posted by: motorfriend | December 22, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

I hate Christmas.

Posted by: elbuzz1 | December 22, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse


The NPR, ACLU, MSNBC and other far-left radical groups have but one simple goal... destroy all that is good.

Posted by: fury60 | December 22, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

OK - Wait, so you people advocating cutting Nina Totenberg's funding don't actually know that she's an avid Christmas fan, and was actually tweaking the DoJ because they DON'T call their party a "Christmas Party?"

You would rather cut funding for someone who supports your own stated views about Christmas than actually think about what she was trying to say?

Haven't we all learned by now that we need to THINK MORE and COMPLAIN LESS about every perceived sleight that "That Lame-Stream Liberal Media" inflicts upon us? Haven't we learned that the "Lame-Stream Conservative Media" is just there trying to piss you off so you'll watch more TV and get brainwashed into doing what they tell you to do?

FREE YOUR MINDS! THINK FOR YOURSELVES! STOP LETTING OTHER PEOPLE TELL YOU TO GET PISSED ABOUT SOMETHING STUPID!

For the love of Christ - It's the Christmas Season - Why don't YOU on the RIGHT start ACTING like it's Christmas.

"You know, Santa Claus, and ho-ho-ho, and mistletoe… and presents to pretty girls…"

Posted by: Ebeneezer_Goode | December 22, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Make someone happy today. Tell them Merry Anti-christ...mas.

Posted by: danw1 | December 22, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Our conservative friends really need to take their heads out of their butts. Now THAT would really be a Christmas miracle!

Posted by: Bushwhacked1 | December 22, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Some people need to get a life. There is unemployment, homelessness, hunger, war, things Jesus might have worried about and these, excuse the expression, Christians, have their panties in a wad over made up slight.

Posted by: zorro2 | December 22, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

What's the big deal? She is Jewish is she not? It's not an assault on christmas, she just doesn't celebrate it! Are we really having a discussion about this, SERIOUSLY? Conservatives need to get over themselves!

Posted by: Angryman | December 22, 2010 10:11 AM
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Did you even READ the story?

Posted by: DCinND | December 22, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

If she had said "I was at a Kwanzaa party - forgive the expression" how would people react?

Posted by: Georgetowner1 | December 22, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

It really is too bad that conservatives, posting here and blogging elsewhere, try and demean Nina Totenberg based on incorrect information and bad assumptions.
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Posted by: mcrockett1

Oh you mean like you lefties have demeaned, distorted and used incorrect information to demonize Palin and Bush? We learned from you lefties how character assasination worked so well in 2008.
The blogosphere is full of demeaning comments on Nina..as she so rightfully deserves.
We are just getting started. Wait until that one term Obama is done, we will blame him and the Dems for everything bad from thereon.
Nina is an evil crazy stupid Barbie doll, who can't even get elected to any office or write a decent book, and the only reason she has an audience is because the rest of us have to pay for this corrupt NPR we don't even listen to.
Who could? It is full of idiotic left bias that is outrageous.

Posted by: rickshawjim | December 22, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Righties are indoctrinated to respond negatively to certain trigger words. Forget the content - Righties bash NPR simply by hearing or seeing the acronym because their masters tell them what to think.

Posted by: angie12106
Typical Palin salivating remark from troll angie, who gets paid to post on here.
Great.

Posted by: rickshawjim | December 22, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

That a Jew would celebrate a Xmas Party is as absurd as a right-wing idiot having brains. She doesn't have to apologize or explain her remarks to anybody, much less to a bunch of stupid nazis.

Posted by: analyst72 | December 22, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

I am Jewish. When someone wishes me a "Merry Christmas" I simply say you too. I don't cause a ruckus. However, I do get annoyed by those who claim saying "Happy Holidays" is offensive.

Why so much anger over people wishing you well?

Posted by: AutumnBanter | December 22, 2010 12:55 PM | Report abuse

time for this lady joker to go... enough is enough... childish beyond description.

Posted by: robinhood2 | December 22, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

What's really funny is when the Post publishes an article about some inane nonsense like this, and CREATES a controversy.

I do think saying "pardon the expression" in order to say "Christmas party" is a bit weird, even when the Post writes a few paragraphs explaining how it's OK.


Posted by: Benson | December 22, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

"I think he ought to be worried about what's going on in the good Lord's mind, because if there's retributive justice, he'll get AIDS from a transfusion, or one of his grandchildren will get it."


To make sure we don't offend anyone this holiday season, we're wishing NPR's Nina Totenberg a very Merry Christmas, a Happy Hanukkah, or whatever she celebrates.....with AIDS. Funny how that gets a pass at NPR, but they fire Juan Williams. Maybe it was because he's black!

What is going on in this country?

Posted by: rickshawjim | December 22, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

@rickshawjim

Yes, exactly like that.

We are just getting started also, gonna be a fun couple of years.

Posted by: elbuzz1 | December 22, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

You people have way too much time on your hands.

Posted by: scottguthrie | December 22, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Nice wig, Nina. Is it from the Zsa Zsa Gabor Collection?

Posted by: Nghbrhdwatch | December 22, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Poor old Jesus. He can't even have a birthday without theocons exploiting it for another Atwater/Rove political wedge issue in their endless culture war against the rest of us.

Posted by: areyousaying | December 22, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Wow. All this about nothing. I'll bet every one of you that Xmas will happen this year.

Posted by: jckdoors | December 22, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

We have a vast budget deficit. This is an easy call. Time to shut the funding down for NPR. Merry Christmas Totenberg.

Posted by: Desertdiva1
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NPR is the most trusted and the most reliable news service in this country and if you do not know that then you are a complete moron. GOT IT? I am a taxpayer too and I have had to spend a trillion dollars invading a country that did not need to be invaded. At least with the money spent on NPR I know what I am getting. Ignorant little twits like you disgust me and I am no longer going to read your posts and not respond.
MORON.
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+1

Posted by: overed | December 22, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

I hate Christmas after it was hijacked by Palin's inbred theocon cousins of Fred Phelps.

Happy Holidays aho!es.

Posted by: areyousaying | December 22, 2010 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Scott, you are right!

Waaay too much time on their hands.

And really, do people even read what they are commenting on?

Posted by: summerandwinter | December 22, 2010 1:14 PM | Report abuse

the truth sometimes slips in before you can cover it up with a lie. the truth is so valuble its guarded by bodyguards of lies. amen ?

Posted by: arturor44 | December 22, 2010 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Well, what did you expect from a hebe whose name means "dead mountain?"

Posted by: bigisle | December 22, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

So, I was sitting in a Starbucks in early December, reading while my son was in his tae kwon do class. It was a fairly quiet evening, only a few patrons. A man came in and began going around to everyone "wishing" them a Merry Christmas -- he was quite insistent, reiterating his greeting until he wrested a response. When he got to me, I meekly offered a "Merry Christmas" in return. He said: "You're the only one who responded! C'mon, 'tis the season!"

And I thought:Perhaps if you actually meant it as a greeting, rather than as a bludgeon, you would get a better response. This man was using his "Merry Christmas" as a verbal assault, a way of passing judgment on people.

Whether you are Christian or not, surely we can all agree with the angels in this respect: "Peace on earth to all people of good will."

Posted by: patcopp59 | December 22, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

This is even DUMBER than yesterday's article about the food feud between Michelle Obama and Sarah Palin. And you people getting your panties in a bunch over it? Wow... just, wow.

Posted by: Jumpy66 | December 22, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Conservatives rushed to condemn something without getting all the facts and turned out to have been completely wrong? Wow, how can that be.

Posted by: sarahabc | December 22, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Gee, I don't know. Her long history of anti-christian remarks maybe?

You fool.

Posted by: johnfchick1 | December 22, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Vicious lunatics.

Posted by: jimsteinberg1 | December 22, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

I think Nina Totenberg is a good reporter, she seems like a really nice person, and I perfectly accept her explanation. Her comment doesn't offend me in any way. However, I also believe that if a FOX commentator had made the same remark, substituting Hannukkah for Christmas, the ADL would be all over this. It goes both ways.

Posted by: redhotCAPSaicin | December 22, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Given the chance, Totenberg would destroy a conservative for saying the very same thing.

Posted by: JAH3 | December 22, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

It's her pedigree, she can't help it. Had she lived 2000 years ago she undoubtedly would have told King Herod where the baby Jesus could be found. I suspect she views Christianity much the same way Louis Farrakhan views Judaism.

Posted by: slim21 | December 22, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Oh BS! Liberals would be raising Hell about such a thing if the shoe was on the other foot. Liberals have an equal tendency to be just as reactionary without finding out the facts as well.

Posted by: liberalsareblind
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That does not excuse either behavior.

Posted by: scooper1976 | December 22, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

"They got caught in the Shirley Sherrod escapade....but remained unrepentant."

Hmm I believe during the Sherrod incident Pres Obama was in office, and a member of his cabinet asked Ms Sherrod to resign.

And you want to talk about conservatives jumping to conclusions w/o all of the facts?

Posted by: BEEPEE | December 22, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Oh ye commenters, what happened to: "a soft answer turneth away wrath?"

Posted by: aoscruggs | December 22, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

"They got caught in the Shirley Sherrod escapade....but remained unrepentant."

Hmm I believe during the Sherrod incident Pres Obama was in office, and a member of his cabinet asked Ms Sherrod to resign.

And you want to talk about conservatives jumping to conclusions w/o all of the facts?

Posted by: BEEPEE | December 22, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Conservative bloggers should be thanking Nina Totenberg for giving them an excuse to get their bowels in an uproar.

Posted by: sasquatchbigfoot | December 22, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Nina is a total hypocrite and a Grinch as well. Another NPR person who is totally out of touch!

Posted by: liberalview21
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Didn't read the whole article did you? Funny how the people jumped all over someone who was defending their POV and they won't back away from their statements. Seems "political correctness" is moving to the right.

Posted by: RealConservative | December 22, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

This Christmas Wars is brought up every year by the GOP as part of their Divide and Conquer "Culture War".

Its ironic because Xmas was originally a celebration of Rome that was devoted to Bachanalia of Orgies and wine.

REAL DEVOUT Christians like the 7th Day Adventists and many other denominations forbid the celebration of Xmas.

Posted by: EB5000 | December 22, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

sarahabc wrote: "Conservatives rushed to condemn something without getting all the facts and turned out to have been completely wrong? Wow, how can that be."
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Oh BS! Liberals would be raising Hell about such a thing if the shoe was on the other foot. Liberals have an equal tendency to be just as reactionary without finding out the facts as well.

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Libs...Cons...Yep , no doubt about it....stupid is as stupid does...sheesh!!!

Posted by: RealConservative | December 22, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Any Conservative who has an issue with anyone or anything about Christmas I respectfully request to stop employing images and references to Santa Claus and his entire community of elves, reindeer and Mrs. Claus, the Christmas tree, the trauma and stress surrounding gift-buying/giving, weather-related Christmas stuff ("White"? - Jesus was born in late spring!) and any reference to anything about Jesus NOT mentioned in that wonderful piece of historical fiction they blindly follow - The Bible. Otherwise, I've had enough of your hypocrisy, Conservatives. Happy Holidays to you!

Posted by: eal1 | December 22, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

These conservatives are like bottom-feeders. They go after non-issues like this to drum up support from their ignorant extremes. They nit-pick well-respected people the way children do when they are threatened by someone more capable than themselves. Losers.

Posted by: Susan9 | December 22, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

IF Nina can afford a vacation home in Jamaica, it is obviously NPR correspondents are being overpaid and should receive no public money.

Given her pro-liberal bias, it is little wonder she didn't jump out of the DOJ Christmas Cake during the party. Her lack of reporting on the New Black Panther and the lack of coverage the politicization of the DOJ is just what the lefties want for Christmas!

Posted by: Cornell1984 | December 22, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Change "why do the heathen rage" to "why do the Christians rage." Totenberg was, in a manner too subtle for these dullards, telling PC "Happy Holidays" type people "hey, it was a Christmas party, so I'm calling it a Christmas party, get over yourselves." She was DEFENDING the inclusion of Christian language into the season, against the trend of scrubbing it of religious references.

Posted by: hitpoints | December 22, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Let's see: Sarah Palin mispronounces a word and the Compost jumps all over her, making it a headline story for 3 weeks (hey, gotta sell this piece of crap somehow; make sure we run her picture-those ones of Hillary Clinton, Janet Napolitano and Nina Totenberg make everyone throw up).

This witch Nina Totenberg blurts out her true feelings and tries to cover it up because she can't take the heat when people find out what she really believes, like all liberals, and not only does the Compost try to cover it up, it's our fault that she is getting hammered.

I say hammer away. By the way, TLC wants to renew "Sarah Palin's Alaska"; the only way Nina Totenberg's show gets renewed is if Americans that hate her guts pay more tax dollars to keep her on the air.

Not even the creeps at the Compost watch her crap!

Posted by: cbtole2 | December 22, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Forgive the expression, but I hate liberals and Kwanzaa.

Posted by: tulsa_dave | December 22, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

The GOP needs to take a page from Rush Limbaugh. Excuse the expression -- for God's sake -- lighten up already!

Posted by: rlampe | December 22, 2010 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Conservatives, ignorance and shopping...It must be Christmas... poor Conservatives... you all are such victims aren't you.

Posted by: dwdave67 | December 22, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Xmas was originally a celbration for Baccanalia the God of pleasure. Thats why the most serious Chritians dont celebrate Christmas.
This Xmas thing is just another Culture War GOP attempt to divide and conquer.

Posted by: EB5000 | December 22, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

NPR is the most trusted and the most reliable news service in this country and if you do not know that then you are a complete moron. GOT IT? I am a taxpayer too and I have had to spend a trillion dollars invading a country that did not need to be invaded. At least with the money spent on NPR I know what I am getting. Ignorant little twits like you disgust me and I am no longer going to read your posts and not respond.

MORON.
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Another liberal elevating the debate. No wonder you guys took such a pounding at the ballot box last month.

Posted by: skeneogden | December 22, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Please. Conservatives want the country to fail while Obama is President. They want to destroy the middle class. They want to screw the poor. They want to kick the unhealthy to the curb and just kick gays period. How 'bout them conservative Christian values?

Posted by: thomgr | December 22, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Earth is a Christian planet. Love it or leave it.

Posted by: djmolter | December 22, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

For the record, Jesus was not born on the 25th of December.....Christians in Europe choose that day to coincide with the pagan solstice celebrations.

Posted by: maurban | December 22, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Come now - Should we be surprised by the Conservative Right's denunciation of Nina’s harmless comment? Right Wingers are all small minded trollstrying to emulate Karl Rove.

And by the way, Nina’s comment doesn’t hold a candle to some of the Right-Wings “Heros” – for example,

George Bush:
"Do you have blacks, too?'
-to Brazilian President Fernando Henrique Cardoso

This is an impressive crowd: the Haves and the Have-mores. Some people call you the elite - I call you my base.'
- at the Al Smith Dinner, New York, October 20, 2000.

"When you strip it all away, Jerry Garcia destroyed his life on drugs. And yet he's being honored, like some godlike figure. Our priorities are out of whack, folks."

- Rush (currently under investigation for drug use) Limbaugh, on the death of Jerry Garcia, 08-20-95.

"The phony soldiers." --on U.S. service members who support withdrawal from Iraq

Rush Limbaugh


"I don't understand how poor people think."
- George W. Bush, confiding in the Rev. Jim Wallis, New York Times, 08-26-03

"Get rid of the guy. Impeach him, censure him, assasinate him."
- Rep. James Hansen (R-UT), talking about President Clinton, as reported by journalist Steve Miner of KSUB radio who overheard his conversation, 11-01-98

"We're going to keep building the party until we're hunting Democrats with dogs."
- Senator Phil Gramm (R-TX), Mother Jones, 08-95

"My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times building."
- Ann Coulter, New York Observer, 08-26-02

"The fact of the matter is that this (increased American casualties) is a sign of the success of our operation, not its failure."
- Ralph Reed, GOP strategist, on MSNBC's program 'Hardball,' 10-28-03
''But obviously, we've got to stand with our North Korean allies.''
—Sarah Palin, on how she would handle the current hostilities between the two Koreas, radio interview with Glenn Beck, Nov. 24, 2010

Posted by: JJH1 | December 22, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Once again the loony right proves that being educated and reading are way out of their reach. Funny how they all missed this statement:

"The DOJ celebration was officially dubbed a "holiday" party, and she was gently mocking that generic designation. "I think that's kind of silly because it's obviously a Christmas party," she told us. "I was tweaking the Department of Justice. It was a touch of irony at the expense of the Justice department, not at the expense of Christmas."


And Tulsa_Dave writes:

"Forgive the expression, but I hate liberals and Kwanzaa"

I would be to if i lived in Tulsa, especially when your local Senator has to go an extra 30 miles to ride his horse in a "Christmas Parade" Instead of a "Holiday Parade". I dont think i would admit being from Oklahoma at the moment, since your state was so scared by something so nonexistent in your state as Sharia Law that you had to pass a law against it, going completely against the constitution. Im sure Rush and Beck are proud of you, the rest of as are stunned.

Posted by: rharring | December 22, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

I want to be a conservative, but the conservative political machine gives me the willies. Seriously, instead of solving things, all they seem to do is nitpick minor gaffs and whinge about this-and-that.

Whinge, whinge, whinge. A bunch of super-sensitive babies waiting to jump on the merest hint of a slight. It's like I'm in Bizarro world, and all of the tough-guy conservatives have become the annoying, cheerless, politically correct feminists of the 70s. Heck, they remind me of the Islamists, who are incapable of looking inward, and instead must blame everything on "them" (Jews and Israel in the case of Islamists, Liberals in the case of modern-day conservatives).

Posted by: steve1231 | December 22, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

The root for conservatives' touchiness about anything Nina Totenberg does or says goes back to tiffs she's had with conservatives, but especially to her role in bringing to light Clarence Thomas' sexual harassment of Anita Hill. She is persona non grata at the Wall Street Journal to say nothing of the always popular war on christmas circle of nitwits.

Posted by: gratianus | December 22, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Merry Jeebus to all!

Posted by: Please_Fix_VAs_Roads | December 22, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

How many of you Christians know Jesus' real name? (Hint: It isn't Jesus, which is a Greek word that people began using hundreds of years after he died)

Posted by: maurban | December 22, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

cbtole2,

Whats the matter cant your read? Or are you so intellectually challenged that you cant understand the article? Well by your post its both. Funny how you guys get your panties in a wad over this, but were awfully silent when Bush was wrecking the country. You should be proud, and im sure you are, but fortunately this country isnt made up of a majority of small minded bigots like yourself.

Posted by: rharring | December 22, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

NPR & PBS must be made private and removed from the taxpayer's payroll. Then, leftists like Nina and her ilk can spout all the propaganda they can afford. Of course, like Air America and other progressive America-hating efforts, they couldn't survive in the free market without picking the citizen's pockets. The insult by Nina, pardon the expression, is the continued picking at the scabs of the wounds the amoral atheist socialists have inflicted on Christians, patriots, and conservatives for decades. Take the leftists advice and get in their faces and hit back hard - give her the Juan Williams treatment, NPR!

Posted by: twolaneflash | December 22, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Yeah here is another fine example of how much Conservatives love this country and the constitution:

"What little right to vote Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-D.C.) has on the House floor will be gone come January, as Republicans have decided to take away the right of delegates and resident commissioners to vote on some amendments.

When Democrats have controlled the House, they have allowed Norton and her fellow delegates to vote in the Committee of the Whole -- a parliamentary term that describes when the full House becomes a committee for the purposes of considering legislation. That has allowed Norton to cast votes on amendments to tax and spending bills, though technically her vote could be considered symbolic since it does not count if it is the deciding one on an issue.

Republicans took away that right when they controlled the House from 1995-2007, and Norton had hoped they would not do so again."

I guess if she was a Republican she could vote, but since the GOP wants to ignore the good people of DC they are hypocrites....

Posted by: rharring | December 22, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

What part of "keep your holidays out of my face" don't conservatives understand?

They whine, moan, play the victim, and attack if they can't have Christmas jammed into public property and every conceivable arena.

And they are unable to grasp that their unlimited freedom to put any religious tripe they want ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY isn't and never has been abridged.

Unbelievably arrogant. The separation of church and state was conceived to protect them, but they can't stand the idea of anyone else having a right, so they feel victimized even as they cram their tribal voodoo down our throats.

Posted by: info53 | December 22, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Clarence Thomas? Yes, Totenberg participated in a failed leftist attempt at character assassination and still has a job only because she is operating in a progressive safe-harbor at NPR. In a just world, Nina would have been hit with a civil action by Mrs. Thomas. Nina Totenberg's smear of Clarence Thomas was so Dan Rather, and deserves the same level of ridicule, humiliation, and loss of professional standing.

Posted by: twolaneflash | December 22, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

They protest too loudly over things of less than great consequence. Was Kyl or DeMint in the room to start the rant against doing anything near Christmas?

Posted by: ronjeske | December 22, 2010 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Less than 6% of NPR's financing comes from the government, they would do just fine without it.

And we've been hearing "next year we are removing their funding" from the conservatives for the last 20 years

Posted by: maurban | December 22, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

twolandflash,

Are you mad because she turned out to be right about Clarence Thomas?

Posted by: rharring | December 22, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

You leftist would do good to study a little. There is no "separation of church and state" in the Constitution, no "freedom from religion", no "right to not be offended". Repeatedly spouting your false beliefs do not make them so. In God We Trust. One Nation Under God. We Pledge Our Lives, Our Fortunes, Our SACRED Honor. Crawl back into your Godless hole.

Posted by: twolaneflash | December 22, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

twolaneflash, isn't it the conservatives who are offended by this? What are you talking about. No one is trying to stop you from celebrating Christmas, we just want you to stop trying to make us worship your zombie carpenter.

Posted by: maurban | December 22, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

rharring, you saying it is so doesn't prove any more than Anita Hill's pathetic efforts did. Show me the pubic hair, please. You're too funny.

Posted by: twolaneflash | December 22, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

maurban, like Ben Franklin, I care not whether you worship no god or ten. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg. I would suggest to you that my worship of Jesus Christ The Son of The Living God has the same effect on your legs and on your pockets.

Posted by: twolaneflash | December 22, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

twolaneflash , then what are you getting so upset about?

Posted by: maurban | December 22, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

maurban, projection, projection.

Posted by: twolaneflash | December 22, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

And do you know what "Jesus Christ The Son of The Living God"'s real name was? If not, it would be kind of silly to devote your entire life to worshiping someone you know so little about.

Posted by: maurban | December 22, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

mattintx wrote: Just one more reason to re-up at my NPR station and get a "Nina Totin' Bag" - an actual piece of merchandise promoted on air in underwriting announcements.

More power to you but while you are at it, how about returning my tax money that supports this anti-religion excuse for radio programs!

Posted by: numbersch13 | December 22, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

twolandflash,

Well since you and were not there when it happened you can say it didnt happen.

Your right it does not specifically state about the separation of church and state but it does say this:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Funny how the red state Oklahoma felt no remorse in breaking this amendment when they passed their silly Sharia Law amendment. But lets go further and get Thomas Jefferson's take on religion and the constitution:

"he phrase "separation of church and state" is derived from a letter written by President Thomas Jefferson in 1802 to Baptists from Danbury, Connecticut, and published in a Massachusetts newspaper soon thereafter. In that letter, referencing the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, Jefferson writes:

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof", thus building a wall of separation between Church & State.[17]

Another early user of the term was James Madison, the principal drafter of the United States Bill of Rights. In a 1789 debate in the House of Representatives regarding the draft of the First Amendment, the following was said:

August 15, 1789. Mr. [Peter] Sylvester [of New York] had some doubts...He feared it [the First Amendment] might be thought to have a tendency to abolish religion altogether...Mr. [Elbridge] Gerry [of Massachusetts] said it would read better if it was that "no religious doctrine shall be established by law."...Mr. [James] Madison [of Virginia] said he apprehended the meaning of the words to be, that "Congress should not establish a religion, and enforce the legal observation of it by law."...[T]he State[s]...seemed to entertain an opinion that under the clause of the Constitution...it enabled them [Congress] to make laws of such a nature as might...establish a national religion; to prevent these effects he presumed the amendment was intended...Mr. Madison thought if the word "National" was inserted before religion, it would satisfy the minds of honorable gentlemen...He thought if the word "national" was introduced, it would point the amendment directly to the object it was intended to prevent.[18]

And if they said that today you would quickly paint these great intellectual men as liberal. Says alot about your thinking. And did you know that Under God was added to the Pledge of Allegiance in 1954?

Posted by: rharring | December 22, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

twolandflash,

Well since you and were not there when it happened you can say it didnt happen.

Your right it does not specifically state about the separation of church and state but it does say this:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Funny how the red state Oklahoma felt no remorse in breaking this amendment when they passed their silly Sharia Law amendment. But lets go further and get Thomas Jefferson's take on religion and the constitution:

"he phrase "separation of church and state" is derived from a letter written by President Thomas Jefferson in 1802 to Baptists from Danbury, Connecticut, and published in a Massachusetts newspaper soon thereafter. In that letter, referencing the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, Jefferson writes:

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof", thus building a wall of separation between Church & State.[17]

Another early user of the term was James Madison, the principal drafter of the United States Bill of Rights. In a 1789 debate in the House of Representatives regarding the draft of the First Amendment, the following was said:

August 15, 1789. Mr. [Peter] Sylvester [of New York] had some doubts...He feared it [the First Amendment] might be thought to have a tendency to abolish religion altogether...Mr. [Elbridge] Gerry [of Massachusetts] said it would read better if it was that "no religious doctrine shall be established by law."...Mr. [James] Madison [of Virginia] said he apprehended the meaning of the words to be, that "Congress should not establish a religion, and enforce the legal observation of it by law."...[T]he State[s]...seemed to entertain an opinion that under the clause of the Constitution...it enabled them [Congress] to make laws of such a nature as might...establish a national religion; to prevent these effects he presumed the amendment was intended...Mr. Madison thought if the word "National" was inserted before religion, it would satisfy the minds of honorable gentlemen...He thought if the word "national" was introduced, it would point the amendment directly to the object it was intended to prevent.[18]

And if they said that today you would quickly paint these great intellectual men as liberal. Says alot about your thinking. And did you know that Under God was added to the Pledge of Allegiance in 1954?

Posted by: rharring | December 22, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

I don't despise Christianity. I despise those who try and make everything an issue somehow related to a "war" on Christianity. I despise people who try and pass laws based on their Christian beliefs and try and make us live our lives the way they want us to. I despise people who try and disguise hate as a Christian belief.

But I don't despise Christianity. I just don't practice it, and have no interest in doing so.

Posted by: ravensfan20008 | December 22, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

These Godless ankle-biters express no such outrage about a Menorah on the Mall, and for perhaps good reason, make no criticism of the prophet Mohammed. Christians need to man-up here and show these jackals(atheism is also a religion)that everything comes with a cost. Merry Christmas.

Posted by: slim21 | December 22, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

I was watching the program on Friday night and immediately caught what Ms. Tottenberg was doing - tweaking DOJ for its "holiday" designation. Anyone who didn't actually watch the show or tape can go pound tar. All the conservative and liberal blowhards need to get a grip. Enough of the holier than thou attitudes. Now pardon me while I unwrap the Nativity Scene pieces and set up the stable for the Christmas Scene.

Posted by: sue1047 | December 22, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: gdalfonzo
". . . the bloggers who were so quick to judge -- without bothering to ask her what she meant."

Well, now she knows how it feels to be Sarah Palin, who gets treated that way on a regular basis. And not just by bloggers.

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Hahahaha that's so funny. The problem is with your premise; that in some way Sarah Palin is as accurate, truthful and knowledgeable as Nina Totenberg. Sarah is definitely NOT in Nina's league when it comes to brains and reason.

Posted by: dlpetersdc | December 22, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Of all the ridiculous non issues in history this just has to be one the most pathetic ever!

Posted by: Chops2 | December 22, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

rickshawjim and twolaneflash,

they don't think well, they're rude and brash;

twolaneflash and rickshawjim,

two minds of a kind, and both rather dim.

Posted by: mcrockett1 | December 22, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

The Repubs/teabaggers (if there are any left) have obviously painted a bullseye on NPR's funding, ever since they canned Juan Williams. This looks to be the 2nd battle of the new culture wars as the Right moves on to their social/cultural/religious agenda. They already won the first round at the National Portrait Gallery. Beware!

And so much for their lies about being only concerned about the economy & the size of Govt, as if anyone really believed them.

Posted by: nyskinsdiehard | December 22, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

desertdiva1, et al: Oh no, you wrote your Congressperson! I'm sure Nina's quaking in her boots!

You need to get your ego back in check. Your opinion is irrelevant, because you're a a know-nothing teabagger. NPR will outlive you all. Time to move on & get a life, you idjits.

Posted by: nyskinsdiehard | December 22, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

More excuses of the inexcusable from fellow socialists, shocking, yawn. The left is so impressed with themselves that they can say anything that offends other people and they laugh it off but if you gore one of their scared oxes watch out. For example homosexuality is not genetic it is a learned behavior. Now watch and behold how opened minded the Liberals are.

Posted by: DCalle10411111 | December 22, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Has the DNC, SEIU and the other unions really looked at all the paid posters that are on these threads and wondered if they are spending their money wisely? I guess they are just like the government becasue they have no idea how much money they are wasting on duplicated efforts.

Posted by: DCalle10411111 | December 22, 2010 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Pete's sake, let's get a grip. She was spoofing the notion of a "Holiday Party" which just so happens to come around during the federally sponsored, official Christmas Holiday. Many in the Western world have surrendered to having "Holiday" parties.

Seems like good tongue-in-cheek behavior, and kudos to Ms. Totenberg. There is no shortage of things in need of venting. This is not one of them. Thanks Nina and DOJ.

"Seasons Greetings" to y'all.

Posted by: ahengst | December 22, 2010 11:12 PM | Report abuse

It's Fox that has the crosshairs on Christmas. Every d---ed year they whip people up into a frenzy about Christmas haters, and they make one or two humbugs out of a nation of three hundred million seem like a liberal-atheist conspiracy. Jeepers, get a life you guys. Freaking Glenn Beck recommended SURVIVAL kits for Christmas presents on his show yesterday, fer cripes sake. How does trying to scare people to death fit in with the Christmas spirit? Other than being nutty as seasonal fruitcakes, I mean.

Posted by: whitebeard1 | December 23, 2010 2:43 AM | Report abuse

If the left wing "Politically Correct Police" hadn't been attacking Christmas for the last twenty years, and Totenberg is clearly a left winger, then no one would have jumped to the conclusion that she was bashing Christmas!

If it walks and talks like a duck then guess what?

Why did the Justice Department call it a "Holiday Party"? The Obama administration's DOJ is filled with Politically Correct left wingers.

It's easy to draw the conclusion from the inferences on display today in our PC society.

However, her explanation does make sense and I for one will give her the benefit of the doubt that she was tweeking the DOJ's party but I wouldn't fault anyone for jumping to the conclusion that she was bashing Christmas.

Posted by: esomments | December 23, 2010 8:11 AM | Report abuse

I actually used to work there.

And I was on a committee, serving at the pleasure of our Assistant AG, and was "volunteered" to organize the party for our entire Division (hundreds of employees).

And we had to call it a "Holiday Party."

So she is right. Or correct. About that part at least.

What is unspoken, and always will be, is the reason why. Back then (this was the 90s), we all knew and laughed without actually having to discuss it.

Posted by: getjiggly2 | December 23, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Well, bully for her then....and keep it up.

As for the kneejerk commentators who harped on what she said, better be sure you know what you're talking about before you open your mouth!

Posted by: ContrarianLibertarian | December 23, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

This makes me want to give more money to NPR.

Conservatives: Shut up. Really, just shut up.

Posted by: fluxgirl | December 23, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

@ getjiggly: Well, in some instances, I think it's more appropriate to use the term "Holidays". And this may be one of those instances.

After all, it's probably safe to say that there are people of faiths other than Christianity (and probably people of no faith) working at the DoJ.

But, then, if I'm a Christian living in a predominantly Jewish nation, then I'm probably not going to be terribly offended that most social and cultural things at this time of year emphasize Hanukkah rather than Christmas.

Some people get too easily offended these days -- and some others seem obsessed with seeing to it that nobody's ever offended.

Posted by: ContrarianLibertarian | December 23, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

@ fluxgirl: "Conservatives: Shut up. Really, just shut up."

Heh. There's the ol' First Amendment spirit coming through!

Posted by: ContrarianLibertarian | December 23, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Well bless the Lord. This article cleared everything up...Everything, that is, EXCEPT WHY SHE SAID IT? I am a tad over 50 years old and have never, ever said, or heard anyone else put Christmas together with her subsequent nonsense utterances...
Nice journalism WaPO

Posted by: hellenist | December 23, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Gosh, after innumerable court cases aimed at eliminating manger scenes, Ten Commandments displays, giant crosses and other Christian symbols from American life, why on earth would anyone think the left had anything against Christianity?

I mean, it's not as if liberals show more enthusiasm for the symbols of any other religion, such as an Islamic mosque at Ground Zero or anything ...

Posted by: UponFurtherReview | December 23, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

So how much of Nina's salary comes from George Soros these days?

Posted by: UponFurtherReview | December 23, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Her explanation sounds plausible, so I can take it at face value, but she also has to see that no one looking at that clip would reach the conclusion that she was tweaking the Grinch; it clearly comes off as the opposite. In her mind, it may have made sense, but in the communication business, it has to make sense somewhere besides the mind of the speaker.

Posted by: INTJ | December 23, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Hey, electricBill, you sound so sharp I thought I'd give it a try....

Liberals like to think of themselves as a combination of Bill Gates (a marketer without morals or acumen) and Nelson Mandela (a felon who ran around with terrorists) but in truth, they have become a gaggle of whining shot-nosed punks who grasp a the mantle of victimization at every opportunity. Their phony "Anthropogenic Global Warming" is just one example and there are countless others. They like to use issues that cause intense gut reactions among their ignorant fellows, so political correctness and phony concern over financial inequality are good ones to flog. If they would get off their sorry butts and do something positive instead of look under rocks for things to complain about, everybody would be a good deal happier. Of course, they could just go away and then everybody else would be ecstatic.

And you're right, I feel so much better now so I'm going to go out and contribute some of my own money (rather than use citizen tax dollars, as liberals demand) to the needy. Thanks, and Merry Christmas

Posted by: princeps52 | December 23, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Nice try, WaPo, but it won't work!

Try agian with the truth.

Posted by: ProudConservative1 | December 23, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

NewsBusters: FNC’s Grapevine Highlights Totenberg’s ‘Forgive’ Christmas Caught by NB, But She Claims She Was Defending Christmas
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-baker/2010/12/23/fnc-s-grapevine-highlights-totenberg-s-forgive-christmas-caught-nb-she-

Posted by: StewartIII | December 23, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

I just don't like NPR because of their smarmy attitude.

That's right, I think they are smarmy.

Defund them? I really don't give a rat's O-ring. If their supporters could pay for their own news they might. But as with so many things any more, some people would just rather have someone else pay for what they feel is rightfully theirs.

As a aside, can't you find someone more evil in the world than a poor dottering old lady, or a competing news outlet?

Posted by: Slam1263 | December 24, 2010 3:42 AM | Report abuse

Jews are backtracking on this. First Rosen, now Totenburg..."WE JUST LOVE CHRISTMAS!"

It's like wrestling with an octopus. While one of the tentacles is giving Christians a big wet hug - the other 7 are at the courthouse filing suit to outlaw Santa and the Easter Bunny.

The war on Christmas is a JEWISH movement. They use their considerable presence in media to protest... "Jews the enemies of Christmas? - never!"

I'm so sick of the jewish propaganda machine.

Posted by: cwardnm | December 24, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

So, if Ms. Totenberg was really gently mocking the DOJ party nomenclature, why wasn't her statement: "...excuse the expression, Holiday Party."?

Sorry, Nina. Not buying it. Should have left it alone.

Posted by: sowhatsnew | December 26, 2010 11:22 PM | Report abuse

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