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Posted at 11:05 AM ET, 01/10/2011

Read this: Sheriff Clarence Dupnik, rough rhetoric

By The Reliable Source

(Eric Thayer/AP)

Who is Sheriff Dupnik? By blasting the recent rhetoric in connection with the Tucson shooting, the Pima County Democrat struck a nerve, reports Peter Wallsten. Conservatives are scolding him for airing personal views in a law enforcement briefing. Friends say he held back -- he would have loved to have named names... So are we going to tone down the rhetoric now? Probably not, say Jason Horowitz and Lisa de Moraes.

(See today's full coverage of the Giffords shooting and suspect Jared Laughner.)

By The Reliable Source  | January 10, 2011; 11:05 AM ET
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Comments

Sheriff Dupnik had it right the first time when he described Arizona as a "Mecca For Prejudice & Bigotry".
I didn't hear any objections from Arizonans about this warlike rhetoric during the fall 2010 election!
Even now, some Arizonans are proud of wearing guns and using intimidation to influence elections, etc.
The international, mainstream media should be castigating those who accept violence and intimidation for any supposedly democratic function.

Posted by: BeaverConsultant | January 10, 2011 11:51 AM | Report abuse

It really is disheartening to see this sheriff, some journalist, and some congressmen using this tragedy as a way to score polical points and to try and stifle political dissent.

Sarah Palin produced a political graphic containing crosshairs, and now some on the left are claiming this is an incitement to violence. Politians use words/phrases such as "target", "enemies", "in our sights", etc. all the time. Yet anyone who isn't "insane" knows they are meant rhetorically and not literally.

For politicians, journalist, and sheriffs to use this horrendous tragedy to advocate for silencing political discourse and to somehow blame their political opponents is just disgusting.

Posted by: DaithiX | January 10, 2011 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Dear Mr. Dupnik.

Please leave Arizona. Loughner is a nutjob, in your area. Why don't we blame you for all of this? Because a crazy guy killed people. He is to blame. Not Arizona, not politics. Many people live here, follow politics, support sb1070. Doesn't mean they shoot people. I'm ashamed that Arizona citizens elected you. I hope you go away soon. Try California.

Posted by: AzNative64 | January 10, 2011 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Those who are defending the vitriol of the right are so mired in the hatred and fear that is the foundation of this new movement, that you simply cannot see how ridiculous your leadership is.

Any reference to firearms or scopes, no matter how subtle, or whether excused as a metaphor, is a call to action.

If the lovely Ms. Palin was an ordinary citizen, she'd be arrested for putting that map on her website.

Your country is in a sorry state. There's just too much to say.

Posted by: ngeisler | January 10, 2011 1:55 PM | Report abuse

an ambitious old man sees an opening as "the unsheriff joe" and because the establishment fears the tea party for many reasons suddenly he is setting the terms for the national discourse over what happened to rep giffords in arizona. the issue is alot of people were killed and very seriously wounded in very little time. the reason is a semi automatic was legally purchased, it was legal because the gun nuts felt the need for high speed shooting to go with their high speed cars and high speed internet and the nra has every branch of the government bullied into submission. krugman a nobel prize winner is vetching just like this sheriff instead of contemplating what our economy is going to be like when no one will issue life insurance policies because maniacs can get hold of weapons like mr loughner used. maniacs have been around for all time, this kind of fire power has not, it is the gun nuts not the entire tea pary who should be called out on this!!!

Posted by: oldnotgiftedandwhite | January 10, 2011 2:14 PM | Report abuse

"If the lovely Ms. Palin was an ordinary citizen, she'd be arrested for putting that map on her website."

Then, ngeisler, you would support the impeachment of Mr. Obama for suggesting that "If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun"?

Posted by: FreddyD | January 10, 2011 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Freddy, none of this talk is productive. You know as well as I do that Obama doesn't make violent references - this is the only one anyone can recall, and boy, is the right ever using it to their full advantage. I think he was damn fed up and wanted to send a message that he would fight back.

Old, you're right. This is about guns and America's sick obession with them. They only other countries in the world that defend the right to bear arms to the extent America does are countries guided by Sharia law (think Somalia), countries rules by war lords, Mexico, and Switzerland (but they know how to behave).

You're in good company.

Posted by: ngeisler | January 10, 2011 2:44 PM | Report abuse

The Sheriff is, without question, correct.

Posted by: MILWI | January 10, 2011 3:52 PM | Report abuse

"You know as well as I do that Obama doesn't make violent references..."

I do?

Get out there and “punish our enemies"

“I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”

“Punch back twice as hard.”

I want to know “whose ass to kick”

“…I’m itching for a fight.”

Whatever...

But I guess you're right that none of this talk is productive. (Not to a hateful, closed mind, that is.)

Posted by: FreddyD | January 10, 2011 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Further to my previous posting, I should point out that it would be absurd for anyone to suggest that some future violence could be blamed on the President's rhetoric.

And it is equally absurd to suggest that Mrs. Palin be "arrested for putting that map on her website."

Q.E.D.

Posted by: FreddyD | January 10, 2011 4:44 PM | Report abuse

As Sheriff Dupnik spoke, I did not see someone with a political agenda. I saw a man who had just witnessed the aftermatch of massacre of people he cared about. He reacted emotionally and should not be criticized for that being human! By the way, if the "crosshair" map was so innocent, why take it down now?

Posted by: mlajoice | January 10, 2011 5:22 PM | Report abuse

America, you're nuts. You are so caught up inb your crazy-ass culture, you can't even see what's so crazy-ass about it.

Here in Australia, like most forward-thinking western countries, we see guns as... you know... bad things that people should never need, and should not own.

We also understand that if you incite political aggression using violent military-style concepts, then unstable people can take those to terrifyingly literal extremes. It's... um... common sense.

Isn't it time you guys took your heads out of your rather dark clouds and did something about your nutty love of guns? Isn't it about time you guys realised that this right-wing movement revival you've experienced in the past few years is a really poisonous thing for humanity? We have conservative politics here too - it's no bigger or less - but it's a far cry from the gun-totin' Jesus-lovin' antics of our country, where fear of "socialism" (do any of you even know what socialism is?!) has swept your seemingly irrational minds.

"God bless America," you lot always say in that vile arrogance the rest of the world hates you for. I say may God have mercy on you.

Posted by: aarondarc | January 10, 2011 6:12 PM | Report abuse

aarondarc - you nailed it.

Posted by: ngeisler | January 10, 2011 9:30 PM | Report abuse

This isn't whether the shooter had a political motive or not, but the fact that the Sheriff said something that I thought spoke to the political climate in this country and how by his speaking, of what I considered the first bit of commen sense to come out of Arizona in a long time is attacked by the political right. Arizona is appearing bigoted to the rest of the country and world. I thank him for speaking up.

Posted by: lbdeb | January 11, 2011 12:32 AM | Report abuse

Rhedoric? Right after all those who have prevented the enforcement of illegal immigration take responsibility for the one million women raped and thousand of familiys killed as a result....Drug's and gangs run wild in our streets ..Who should be responsible for that?. Lets blame Obama and Janet Napolitano with Home land Security..that would at least be the truth..The jerk who shot those innocent people was a fan of the Communist Manefesto and had nothing to do with conservative anything...Only a fool would attempt to use this as a political stunt... especially anyone in Arizona

Posted by: berry-r | January 15, 2011 4:33 AM | Report abuse

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